January 01, 2010

Federal Judge Cites Prosecution Mistakes, Tosses Charges Against Blackwater Guards
— Dave in Texas

Dismisses entire case.

Urbina said the prosecutors ignored the advice of senior Justice Department officials and built their case on sworn statements that had been given under a promise of immunity. Urbina said that violated the guards' constitutional rights. He dismissed the government's explanations as "contradictory, unbelievable and lacking in credibility."

Contradictory, unbelievable and non-credible explaining probably seemed like a good idea at the time.

In news closer to home, it's really really hard to rob people in Idaho.

Cornelson quickly whipped out her 9 mm Kel-Tec firearm -- a Christmas present from her husband -- scaring the teen off before calling police.

Guys, there's still time to find that perfect after-Christmas gift for your gal. Merry Christmas sweetie!! [via the Man of Substance]

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 06:26 AM | Comments (54)
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1 I get a laugh out of those Broadview Security TV ads.  Women home alone suddenly confronted by an intruder.  They run screaming as the alarm goes off.  IMMEDIATELY someone calls the house to see if everything is okay.  And the women ALWAYS pick up the phone while 'running for their lives'. 

In real life, you'd be lucky if someone called 10 minutes after the alarm went off.

I've got my own security signs:  "Never mind the dog, beware of owner!"

Posted by: GarandFan at January 01, 2010 06:31 AM (ZQBnQ)

2 Unprecedented!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 01, 2010 06:32 AM (QECjC)

3 Curse You, GarandFan! *Shakes Fist at Monitor*

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 01, 2010 06:32 AM (QECjC)

4 "Blackwater." R-R-R-R-R-A-A-A-C-I-S-T!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 01, 2010 06:33 AM (QECjC)

5

Same stupid mistake that they tried on Oliver North.

You can't promise someone immunity for their statement, and then use that statement to indict them. That is so wrong on both legal and ethical grounds that it astounds me that prosecutors still try to get away with it.  It won't happen, but every prosecutor associated with this case needs to be fired on grounds of sheer incompetence, just like the clowns who pulled off the Ted Stevens fiasco do.

Posted by: wws at January 01, 2010 06:34 AM (T1boi)

6 Libtards everywhere are incensed over this.

Posted by: enoxo at January 01, 2010 06:36 AM (EaJXL)

7 Happy New Year! Yeh! Kobe beef steaks for evah!!

Posted by: Obama at January 01, 2010 06:44 AM (GfYt/)

8 6 Libtards everywhere are incensed over this.

Posted by: enoxo at January 01, 2010 10:36 AM (EaJXL)


So some good did come of all this ... And, Happy New Year, M & Ms.

Posted by: Josef K. at January 01, 2010 06:46 AM (7+pP9)

9 Auburn/Northwestern coming up!

Posted by: Bugler at January 01, 2010 06:46 AM (YCVBL)

10 Nice way to start off a new year.

Posted by: rawmuse at January 01, 2010 06:47 AM (9nuos)

11 wws wrote:  "... just like the clowns who pulled off the Ted Stevens fiasco.."

While Stevens might have been guilty of SOMETHING, he wasn't guilty of what they charged him with, but the damage to his life and career were accomplished for totally political reasons, before a court could wade through the lies and deceit to find the Government was totally wrong!

And just what action has been taken against those responsible?  Not a friggin thing, that's what.

So why could we ever expect that these lawyer wannabes will ever face any punishment?  They won't and Eric Holder - on orders from Barack O Bomber - will see to it.  If, however, the pressure gets too great, Holder goes under the bus.

Posted by: Dell at January 01, 2010 06:49 AM (L9aq4)

12 Was there ever anything to these charges to begin with?

Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2010 06:54 AM (QrA9E)

13 I'm having trouble even getting the previous two comment threads to load. Is everyone still here or is the alternate site working?

Posted by: AbdominalSnowman at January 01, 2010 06:55 AM (pla1I)

14 Wow!   Two great stories that put a smile on my face before breakfast!  I love that the lady with the gun had extensive experience with firearms.  In Barry and Eric Holder's view, Blackwater, Bad; Black Panthers, good.  People who are innocent need to be prosecuted, people who clearly broke the law (and don't show up to court as proscribed) get off scott free.  How screwed up is that?  Thank God this judge got it right.  I wonder who appointed him. 

Posted by: runningrn at January 01, 2010 06:56 AM (CfmlF)

15

1.  It doesn't sound like the Blackwater guys are out of the woods yet.  The article did not make it clear if the judge dismissed the criminal charges with prejudice or without prejudice:  this is an important distinction because criminal charges dismissed without prejudice can always be re-filed.  Also, it looks like they have a civil case pending.

That being said, you can't promise immunity from criminal charges and then say, "Sucker!!! Fooled you."  The prosecutors sound like douche-bags.

2.  I get a chuckle out of the Broadview adds myself.  Those chicks would be raped and dead before the alarm company even gets around to calling the police.  My version of the advertisement would have the miscreant boot-in the door and then get blasted by a determined woman holding a handgun -- said miscreant would then fall the floor dead.  A truly happy ending!

As has been said before, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. (I know because I was one for 24 years).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at January 01, 2010 06:58 AM (bCQG3)

16 Wow, a Bill Clinton appointee!  I sure miss Bill these days!  He was such a statesman...

Posted by: runningrn at January 01, 2010 06:59 AM (CfmlF)

17 #5 Don't leave out the messy prosecution of that Senator from Alaska who got a free house renovation.There is a lot of prosecutorial misconduct out there...I think some of it is done on purpose.

Posted by: torabora at January 01, 2010 07:00 AM (CgCrn)

18 Clinton appointee, sayeth Wiki.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 01, 2010 07:01 AM (Be4xl)

19 The judge is a Bill Clinton appointee who has quite a record of opposition to the "W" administration, so it will be difficult for the fraud in the White House - or his water carrier, Holder - to try to make it look like a partisan political decision.

And I totally agree with Retired Buckeye Cop - with 28 years on the job.  And, on that note, if the cops "really roll" to the scene they're accused of jeopardizing the safety of the public...if they don't, people die.  The police can't win...No matter how hard they try.  The fact that about 99% of all such calls are false alarms doesn't help matters.

Posted by: Dell at January 01, 2010 07:05 AM (L9aq4)

20 "Never mind the dog, beware of owner!"
Posted by: GarandFan

Likes

Posted by: sTevo at January 01, 2010 07:05 AM (JOFYK)

21

While Stevens might have been guilty of SOMETHING, he wasn't guilty of what they charged him with

I really wish we knew if he actually was guilty of something.

Oh, and btw, my quick and timely research shows that Bill Clinton appointed this judge.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 01, 2010 07:05 AM (Be4xl)

22 Contradictory, unbelievable and non-credible

So who's feeling good about the NYC prosecutions now, eh?  Can I get a big "hoo ra" from the crowd!

*chirp*
*chirp*  *chirp*

Posted by: Bernie Madoff at January 01, 2010 07:06 AM (jH7o9)

23 /sock

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 01, 2010 07:06 AM (jH7o9)

24 Buckeye Cop, Thank you for your service. it's not an easy job you did, and I truly hope your precinct appreciated you being on watch for them. We subscribe to the BDSS at the moment (Big Dog Security System.) Our dogs have scared off intruders in two states and one other country, so that"s my excuse to keep getting big dogs that my husband claims we don't need.

Posted by: mokimoki at January 01, 2010 07:09 AM (IrV7s)

25

So who's feeling good about the NYC prosecutions now, eh?  Can I get a big "hoo ra" from the crowd!

I'm hiding under my desk, thank you.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 01, 2010 07:10 AM (Be4xl)

26 US District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina  (Georgetown Law)

1970-1972 - D.C. Public Defender Service
1974-1981 - Faculty, Howard University Law School
1981 - Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia
1994 - Appointed to the United States District Court by President Bill Clinton
In October 2008, ordered the release of a small group of Uighur detainees from Guantanamo into the United States.  On December 16, 2009 Urbina ordered Guantanamo captive "Saeed Hatim" to be released.

Posted by: JFK at January 01, 2010 07:13 AM (1AnxB)

27 whoops... sock off

Posted by: phreshone at January 01, 2010 07:15 AM (1AnxB)

28

Best source for quick info on federal judges:

Biographical Directory of Federal Judges

http://www.fjc.gov/public/home.nsf/hisj

I have it bookmarked.

Posted by: Tinian at January 01, 2010 07:15 AM (7+pP9)

29 Frankly it looks more like a sticking a parting finger into the eye of the justice department employees (W) than a 'victory' for Blackwater

Posted by: phreshone at January 01, 2010 07:16 AM (1AnxB)

30
Yes,

Being a Barista in Couer d'Alene does have it's perks.

Posted by: franksalterego at January 01, 2010 07:20 AM (GKyIE)

31 Nice, the deputy stopped for a coffee before picking up the armed perp.  Seriously, crooks - the one city in the US where you shouldn't be trying that crap is Coeur D'Alene.

Posted by: Jean at January 01, 2010 07:30 AM (xCBQ4)

32

24

mokimoki:

Thanks for the kind words. 

There are definitely evil people out there and you need to be prepared to protect yourself and family. 

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at January 01, 2010 07:32 AM (bCQG3)

33 So, if I understand the Blackwater case correctly the  unit in question was guarding a convoy that they claim came under attack, they then returned fire, and there was collateral damage.

Someone, it isn't clear whom, is claiming they did not come under attack. Because of that they were charged with manslaughter? WTF?

It isn't clear who killed the civilians. It isn't clear if there was a firefight or not. And if five trained guards opened fire while traveling with a convoy it is absurd to presume a criminal motive.

It would seem there are two likely possibilities:

1) The guards were responding to an attack
2) There was a mistake and the guards fired thinking they were responding to at attack (weapon misfire by one guard, confusion about something that a civilian was holding, etc).

Neither of these options merit a criminal investigation.

So, am I missing something?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 01, 2010 07:33 AM (bgcml)

34

31

I hadn't really paid attention to the end of the story that a deputy was nearby because he had just picked up a coffee at Cornelson's coffee stand.  The attempted robbery ocurred at about 6:50AM -- that deputy was either starting or ending his shift.

The misunderstood yoot should have staked-out his intended victim better.  He would have found out that cops got their coffee there.  Most criminals are actually rather stupid -- they're just vicious.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at January 01, 2010 07:42 AM (bCQG3)

35 My hubby got me a nice little Walther PK380 for my Christmas stocking.  LOVE IT!  Ammo is sure expensive, though.  Even the reloads, when you can find them.

Posted by: koz at January 01, 2010 07:54 AM (RpKLP)

36

35

The cost of ammunition has just about doubled in a year because of the unprecedented demand for ammunition.  It seems that many Americans have chosen to celebrate The One's unprecedented election and subsequent unprecedented job performance by buying copious amounts of guns and ammo!

.380ACP is in particullarly short supply.  It looks like lots of folks decided to get themselves a little pocket pistol.  Did I mention that's unprecedented?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at January 01, 2010 08:02 AM (bCQG3)

37 The holdup story was interesting - there was another customer present, and a deputy had just left the coffee place.  That is a nomination for a place on 'World's Dumbest'.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at January 01, 2010 08:06 AM (TUWci)

38

koz, this one? PPK/s?

Have had one for a couple of years, not a bad little gun at all.  Stick with factory mags, I got misfeeds from other brands.

 

Retired Buckeye Cop, I've noticed .380 was a little harder to find now, I thought it was because ammo mfgs had stepped up production on other calibers (9mm and .45). And yeah, 2 years ago I could buy 50 rounds of .45 ACP for about half what it's costing me now.  Sheesh.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 01, 2010 08:41 AM (Wh0W+)

39 Guys, there's still time to find that perfect after-Christmas gift for your gal. Merry Christmas sweetie!! [via the Man of Substance]

Please.  I buy my own guns.  He buys his own guns.  I've seen his taste in jewelry and clothing, and it ain't good.


Posted by: antisocialist at January 01, 2010 08:46 AM (Rwudm)

40 38
I've got a PPK/S - it's my very favorite.  Perfect concealed carry pistol, and a lot of fun to shoot.  Had to send it back to the factory for some sort of recall, though...***sniffle***...so I'm back to my .38 Special for now.
And, yeah, ammo is incredibly high now, if you can find it.  Hubby reloads, tho.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 01, 2010 08:49 AM (Rwudm)

41 I forgot where I read it, but .380 ammo production isn't down much, year over year.  The range ammo (cheap) is tougher to find, but the premium stuff is still on the shelves.  I know a lot of people have decided to carry, even without proper papers, and the .380's are perfect for that, if you use the premium ammo.  But most folks would like to get profecient with their firearm before depending on it to protect their lives.  That's where it's getting expensive.  Otherwise, you buy 2 boxes of premium, fire one at the range, load up the carry mag, and you're probably set for life.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 01, 2010 08:56 AM (Poe30)

42 Best concealed carry pistol is the Colt compact Model 1911A1 (5 shot mag). It will fit in your back pocket and still carries the knock down of a .45 ACP.

Posted by: Vic at January 01, 2010 09:07 AM (QrA9E)

43

PPK/s Recall info here.

 

Hadn't heard about this.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at January 01, 2010 09:14 AM (Wh0W+)

44 I'm not sure it matters that much what gun you carry.  It matters more that one is comfortable with their firearm and their abilities.  Criminals are predators at heart, and can tell when someone isn't committed to their own protection.  I would be more afraid of someone with a .22lr who meant business than I would of someone with a big-bore anything, but that scared look on their face, and a bad case of the shakes.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 01, 2010 09:15 AM (Poe30)

45

Smith & Wesson has identified a condition that may exist in certain PPK and PPK/S pistols which may permit a round to be discharged without the trigger being pulled. When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & WessonÂ’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire.

 

Uh huh.  That's serious.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 01, 2010 09:17 AM (Poe30)

46 So, why are the leftards blaming Bush? It's not like he was consulted on how to prosecute this case.

Posted by: moi at January 01, 2010 10:32 AM (6k7X2)

47 Idaho differs greatly from places like Massachusetts where defending your home from invaders gives the state an excuse to lock you up.


Posted by: Lee at January 01, 2010 10:34 AM (8cnnJ)

48 I know them and Justice careerers are all lefties. I'm not the least surprised that they wanted to treat Blackwater employees as if they had no constitutional protections while at the same time treat the terrorists as if they did have constitutional protections. Just how they think....like Obama

Posted by: dagny at January 01, 2010 11:13 AM (pWl3F)

49 I'm not really sure why there seems to be a general feeling of elation over the dismissal of charges.  We just don't know if the Blackwater guys are guilty or not, yet a number of posters here, at least from my reading, seem to act like they already know everyone charged was not guilty

17 civilians are dead.  How would those rooting for Blackwater treat a similar incident, occurring under a diplomatic protection situation, happening in America?

Posted by: Black Yoshi at January 01, 2010 01:28 PM (deiiR)

50

Yoshi, seventeen "civilains" are dead?  Things in Iraq are not always as they seem, and I would not be so sure to call the dead innocent civilains.  Go to Blackfive to get indepth with what happened.  But no matter, these guys will forever have the cloud of an indictment hanging over their heads.  And, fwiw, I do blame Bush for this.  The indictment came down under his watch, with his DOJ.  Same with the Haditha Marines, LT Pantano, the Border Patrol agents, Army LT Behenna, etc.  Bush could have done the right thing but chose to let these guys be saccraficed.

Posted by: PDizzle at January 01, 2010 03:28 PM (R0lVr)

51 "When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & WessonÂ’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire." Lowering the hammer like that is a bad idea and not something either of us would ever do, anyway, so the better half didn't send hers in for the recall.

Posted by: deathweezel at January 01, 2010 06:53 PM (DjYvZ)

52 PDizzle at January 01, 2010 07:28 PM (R0lVr)

Maybe the Blackwater guys are not guilty.  I don't know.  You don't, either.

Posted by: Black Yoshi at January 01, 2010 07:22 PM (deiiR)

53 "Cornelson quickly whipped out her 9 mm Kel-Tec firearm -- a Christmas present from her husband -- scaring the teen off before calling police."


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