January 28, 2010

Feinstein Offers Obama a Smart Way Out on KSM
— Ace

Any chance he'll take it?

Andrea Mitchell reports:

Sen Feinstein agrees with Mayor Bloomberg- KSM should not be tried in NYC.says situation changed after xmas day bomber. obama should change

That's smart, because when you reverse yourself, you can't admit you were wrong. (Well, normal people can, but not politicians, and especially not malignant narcissists like Obama.)

You need to say you were right before, but are right now, too, even as you do the exact opposite thing you did before.

You need to ascribe this to a change of circumstance, or a new experience previously denied you. George Bush the Elder did this in his abortion-switch, offering up a child's adopted baby (I think: the "little brown ones" or something) as having opened his eyes to the pro-life POV.

No one really bought it, but, you know: Cosmetic.

So, anyway, there's Captain Wonderful's out.

He won't take it, though.

It might hint that maybe he was wrong, which he never is.

Just ask him.

The press is against him, you know.

Posted by: Ace at 10:30 AM | Comments (48)
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1
wow even Feinstein is more clever than this dope

Posted by: This is lolboner at January 28, 2010 10:33 AM (jVldi)

2 That strategy is virtually symphonic.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 28, 2010 10:34 AM (AZGON)

3 When you've lost Diane feinstein...

Posted by: a chicken at January 28, 2010 10:35 AM (4jZ56)

4 @2

I agree!

Posted by: mythical brown note at January 28, 2010 10:35 AM (sey23)

5

wow even Feinstein is more clever than this dope

She's like a fuckin' symphony of hammers.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at January 28, 2010 10:35 AM (pZEar)

6 I think he will leap at this opportunity. It's the smart thing to do. He is smart, right?

Posted by: McLovin at January 28, 2010 10:35 AM (RwvN1)

7 Did Andrea Mitchell fellate Obama before or after this?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 28, 2010 10:35 AM (ujg0T)

8
If you're gonna mention Aiinndrea Mitchell, you need to post this pic.

Posted by: This is lolboner at January 28, 2010 10:36 AM (jVldi)

9 I live in NYC I say try him here. We suffered the most on 9/11 and we should have first crack at him. If PA and DC want him after we are done with him line forms behind us. Anybody else please take a number.

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 28, 2010 10:36 AM (mhD2v)

10 Eh, Obama's too busy finding a way to get the internet columnists to blow him some more to care about this suggestion.

Posted by: taylork at January 28, 2010 10:37 AM (4jZ56)

11
The decision to give head-chopper terrorists -  lawyers, and a big fancy expnsive show trial in NY City - will always be a stupid political decision.  No one should let that be forgotten.

The R's are  going to save obama on this one.

The Republicans are going to save the president's hide on this, because I think, in fact, when you get the mayor of New York today recommending that the trial be held elsewhere, you are beginning to get some cover.


You have got the introduction of a bill by a member of the Senate [Lindsey Graham] and member of the House [Frank Wolf] to actually cut off the funding, which is a way of Congress stepping in and preventing the trial.


I think if that happens, the administration will have dodged a bullet, because if the trial actually happens, and it will be a circus, it will be a propaganda disaster, and it will be a security nightmare. It would hurt the administration every day on the news broadcasts in the evening.


If it is averted by congressional action, it will be a single [public-relations] hit on the administration and it's not going to be a constant drain. . . . So I think, in fact, that they are lucking out on being stopped from [carrying out] a really idiotic decision.


-Krauthammer



Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 28, 2010 10:37 AM (0fzsA)

12
dang it -forgot the quotes:

"The Republicans are going to save the president's hide on this, because I think, in fact, when you get the mayor of New York today recommending that the trial be held elsewhere, you are beginning to get some cover.


You have got the introduction of a bill by a member of the Senate [Lindsey Graham] and member of the House [Frank Wolf] to actually cut off the funding, which is a way of Congress stepping in and preventing the trial.


I think if that happens, the administration will have dodged a bullet, because if the trial actually happens, and it will be a circus, it will be a propaganda disaster, and it will be a security nightmare. It would hurt the administration every day on the news broadcasts in the evening.


If it is averted by congressional action, it will be a single [public-relations] hit on the administration and it's not going to be a constant drain. . . . So I think, in fact, that they are lucking out on being stopped from [carrying out] a really idiotic decision."


-Krauthammer




Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 28, 2010 10:40 AM (0fzsA)

13 Every time I hear Feinstein acting in even a barely rationale sense, it reminds me of how bad Boxer is.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2010 10:42 AM (vb5IK)

14 You have got the introduction of a bill by a member of the Senate [Lindsey Graham] and member of the House [Frank Wolf] to actually cut off the funding, which is a way of Congress stepping in and preventing the trial.


Seems to me like that's just an invitation to a lawsuit regarding a Bill of attainder.

Obama's already opened up Pandora's Box on this one.

Posted by: taylork at January 28, 2010 10:42 AM (4jZ56)

15

What Dr. K said.

We could let him go ahead, and reap both houses in November and possible impeachment-level scandal for Daddy O, but our safety is more important. Seriously.

So yeah, I don't think we're gonna let him do this.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at January 28, 2010 10:42 AM (SCcgT)

16 So after totally like saying for days the xmas bomber was an incompetent, disturbed, sexually repressed, solo nutjob, who wasn't a credible threat to an aggressive four year old

just then super liberal spin powers kick in and

he becomes first part of super dooper terror plot hatched by evil genius Bin Laden to level the United States' largest city.

But the system wasn't a total flipping, detestable, impotent, failure...

Marvel at those super spin powers they have. 

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 28, 2010 10:44 AM (0q2P7)

17 This is a way out and DiFi's way to preserve her own hide.  Soetero will probably take it.  What's really the story here though is that when DOJ announced this decision, it was as if it were the product of some thoughtful, decisive process.  However, the indictments were handed down a couple weeks after the decision was made public.  Now, any prosecutor (as I once was) knows that a case so rife with infamy and so laden with reams of evidence would take weeks and perhaps months to put into the federal grand jury.  My point?  That the decision was taken long before it was made public and that federal prosecutors were presenting evidence far in advance of the public disclosure.  So much for transparency.  Weasels...

Posted by: slade at January 28, 2010 10:45 AM (XsHAM)

18 The smart thing to do is move it out of NYC and proclaim that you are doing it because the GOP is politicizing this thing and it is becoming a distraction.  You are all about substance, so let others have their little victories.

Posted by: pep at January 28, 2010 10:46 AM (5GcKk)

19 wow even Feinstein is more clever than this dope

Feinstein is smart, practical, and dangerous; Not like Boxer. Her only Achilles heal is gun rights, that, is the only subject where she publicly whacks out and goes totally off the deep end on the left side of the pool.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 28, 2010 10:48 AM (0q2P7)

20

Like I said in the other thread he will say "no change" right up until he throws it under the bus. First though he has to see if the media quits mouthing his balls long enough to actually report how stupid the idea of holding the trial in NYC is.

 

Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2010 10:48 AM (QrA9E)

21 Feinstein hasn't been bad on national security lately. She's not been shy about criticizing 0 ever since they cut her out of the decision-making on releasing the EIT memos last summer.
 

Posted by: just dandy at January 28, 2010 10:48 AM (IYFyf)

22 I wonder how many hours were spent airbrushing that Andrea Mitchell pic on Twitter?  I'm guessing some poor bastard has a full week invested in it.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 28, 2010 10:50 AM (gUO27)

23
Really?

Did Feinstein speak up against the gross mishandling of Nidal Hassan, the muslim terrorist who killed 13 people, who kept getting promoted in the US Army?

No one has lost their job over that massacre, btw.

Posted by: This is Scott Beauchamp at January 28, 2010 10:54 AM (jVldi)

24 As much as I love to condemn Democrats for being treasonous, anti-American bastards I know that argument doesn't play well with the general electorate, particularly the mush headed squishes in the middle who unfortunately are the 5 or so percent who decide elections. Better to use the KSM debacle as an illustration of how bad the Democrats judgement is. Abominably bad. Worse than a 10 year old's judgement. In every category, from creating jobs and understanding how the economy works to protecting this country from pure evil, batshit crazy terrorists the Democrats get it precisely wrong, each and every time. The fact is, bad judgement does accurately describe the Democrat Party.  I wish we could effectively paint that picture dispassionately and without the vitriol that inflames me and no doubt turns many people off.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 28, 2010 10:54 AM (tm/sN)

25

So has anyone yet figured out exactly who made the decision to try KSM in NYC?  Seems to me, no-one has as yet fessed up to this.

Or have I missed something.

Posted by: HH at January 28, 2010 10:56 AM (1kwr2)

26
Eric Holder consulted his wife and brother and then made the decision.

Serious.

Posted by: This is Scott Beauchamp at January 28, 2010 10:58 AM (jVldi)

27

He won't take it, though.

It might hint that maybe he was wrong, which he never is.

Other people can be wrong, though. See "bus, throwing under" for precedents.

"Let me be clear, this was the right decision when I approved it, but then those evil Republicans turned it into a mess that Bush left me, so I had to step in and make the right decision now to undo all the damage done by racists."

 

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 28, 2010 11:01 AM (Be4xl)

28 As last nights 'speech' proved, Barry ain't that smart.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 28, 2010 11:02 AM (ZQBnQ)

29

So has anyone yet figured out exactly who made the decision to try KSM in NYC?  Seems to me, no-one has as yet fessed up to this.

"I found the culprit by flying Air Force One over Manhattan."

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 28, 2010 11:02 AM (Be4xl)

30 I wonder what Andrea Mitchell's opinion is. a) I'm curious, and b) it probably carries more weight with The Won than Feinstein, Bloomberg, and the rest of us combined.

Posted by: arhooley at January 28, 2010 11:02 AM (1Kt/a)

31 "Let me be clear, this was the right decision when I approved it, but then those evil Republicans turned it into a mess that Bush left me, so I had to step in and make the right decision now to undo all the damage done by racists."

It will be very fun to watch lefties' heads explode.

Posted by: arhooley at January 28, 2010 11:04 AM (1Kt/a)

32 Recipe for solving the KSM problem: Ingredients: Four or five enlisted men with M16 rifles and one clip of 5.56mm NATO ammo each; one officer with a pistol and one clip of 9mm ammo; one wall. Directions: Put KSM against the wall. Carefully line up enlisted men. Have the officer tell the enlisted men to fire. When they've emptied their clips, have the officer put one or two rounds in KSM's head. Bon apetite!

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2010 11:08 AM (RD7QR)

33 Feinstein is just a teabagging racist cracker with ties to militia groups and skinheads.  Pay no attention to what she says.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 28, 2010 11:15 AM (gUO27)

34 Soetero will probably take it.

Nope.  He is a dope.

Four or five enlisted men with M16 rifles and one clip of 5.56mm NATO ammo each;

IIRC, each clip will hold only one round, and one of those would be a blank.

Posted by: CUS at January 28, 2010 11:16 AM (wOGfT)

35

I'm confused about how the situation has changed since the Xmas bombing attempt?  Did it take a jihadi burning his dick off and being subdued by airline passengers to enlighten the Dems that they might be risking the safety of the people they are supposed to be protecting by putting on this KSM show-trial?

What, exactly, about the Xmas day bombing attempt changed the situation? 

Posted by: ATaLien at January 28, 2010 11:19 AM (SkRi5)

36

The situation did NOT change after the underwear bomber.

The situation changed after 9-11.

Posted by: Bender at January 28, 2010 11:21 AM (802+s)

37

DiFi is one of mine, and she is not a bad ol' scout, given the state she represents. She's kind of the Scott Brown of California.

She's always been strong on defense...her husband is a defense contractor, so it's not surprising, I suppose...and she is not quite as fiscally demented as most of her fellow California Dems. She will generally raise very sound objections to whatever boondoggle they're trying to pass, but then turn around and vote in favor of it.

There is potential there for a fairly good Senator, and I am hoping the recent elections will have put the fear of God into her, and allow her inner Moderate to emerge.

 

 

Posted by: Redneck, teabaggin' bitch at January 28, 2010 11:23 AM (GXLjK)

38
The Dems will compromise and move the trial - to some bum-fuck town -  but it wont be what it should be - a military tribunal.


Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 28, 2010 11:25 AM (0fzsA)

39 Anybody else please take a number.

Posted by: sheik Yamani at January 28, 2010 02:36 PM (mhD2v)

I'll take $200,000,000,000. 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at January 28, 2010 11:34 AM (wgLRl)

40 Redneck, teabaggin' bitch

Actually, I'm hoping that both Feinstein and Box get thrown out on their asses.
Better yet, shove a windmill up BOTH their asses.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 28, 2010 11:50 AM (ZQBnQ)

41

Feinstein is no moderate, but isn't a complete fool either.  The owe owes her a steak dinner (wagyu) for this proposed out -- and no, doubtful he'll take it.

Although, in the interests of many, not the least the citizens of NYC, he should.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 28, 2010 12:06 PM (5/yRG)

42

Actually, I'm hoping that both Feinstein and Box get thrown out on their asses.
Better yet, shove a windmill up BOTH their asses.

Fineswine is better than Bolshevik Bimbo Bitch Boxer, but not by much.

Fineswine faces elections in 2012, Boxer this fall. Hopefully the patriots will have taken over by then.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 28, 2010 12:06 PM (ujg0T)

43

"...situation changed after xmas day bomber..."

It changed only after Christmas Day????

Jesuschristonafuckingcrutch. I would have thought that even a democrat with a couple of firing neurons could have figured out things changed on a sunny day in September 2001. Civilians and military personnel, simply going on about their daily duties, had their lives changed by muslim fucksticks who carried out the instructions of their 7th century Islamic zealot/prophet to the letter.

But thanks for the suggestion Feinstein; you day-late-and-a-brain-cell-short asslcown.

 

Posted by: SFC MAC at January 28, 2010 12:11 PM (/9h7Q)

44 The situation didn't change, just the political perception of the situation. But for Feinstein, that's all the "reality" she's aware of.

Posted by: Socratease at January 28, 2010 12:14 PM (nJmDs)

45

By the way, Andrea also Tweets:

 

Feinstein also criticized Republicans says they havent given Obama a chance have criticized him since day one. creates "aura of bitterness"

Awwwwww. Pass the fucking kleenex, I think there's something in my eye.

Posted by: SFC MAC at January 28, 2010 12:22 PM (/9h7Q)

46

GarandFan and Curmudgeon.....I am layin' in large supplies of pudding in anticipation of Boxer's defeat.

Redneck, tea baggin' bastard plans on filming the pudding event. Let the good times roll!

Posted by: Redneck, teabaggin' bitch at January 28, 2010 12:23 PM (GXLjK)

47

Feinstein also criticized Republicans says they havent given Obama a chance have criticized him since day one. creates "aura of bitterness"

 

Yeah, cause Democrats gave George W. Bush so much love and support .  Unbelievable.  What was it, 2 weeks after 9/11, and they were back to their partisan, obstructionist selves?  Some of them even frickin opposed Afghanistan for crying out loud.

Posted by: runningrn at January 28, 2010 12:43 PM (CfmlF)

48 Much as I hate to say anything nice about Democrats, credit where credit is due. DiFi is my senator, and while she wouldn't be my choice, she is at least moderately intelligent and reasonable. Frankly, compared with Barbara Boxer, she is a f*ing genius. You can count on DiFi to get it right once in awhile, even if she has very different political views than I do. Good luck with Barbara Boxer on that one.

Posted by: LateNightWithDavid at January 28, 2010 01:32 PM (Lr69Q)

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