October 26, 2010

Financial Briefing: Jive Talking
— Monty

[UPDATED] Giant mutual-fund firm Vanguard endorses the party of wealth, priviliege, and disregard for the common man. That's right: they endorse the Democrats (Via CDR M in the comments.).

Doomed! Doooomed! DOOOOOOOOMED!

I always say this about deflation and inflation: first one, then t'other. Well, guess what? "T'other" is drawing nigh.

Which leads to....

Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (TIPS) sell at a negative yield for the first time since the dark days of 2008. Lots of people see inflation looming, and are willing to actually *pay* Uncle Sam to issue them inflation-protected paper. Me? I'll stick to gold, thankyouverymuch. (Or I would, if I could afford to buy any more of it. So silver it is, for the time being.)

Remember that little nothing of a problem, that little minuscule easily-solved non-issue paperwork thing the banks were waving off with a "Pshaw!"? Well, guess what? That little nothing of a problem might be a bit more problematic than they thought. As in: "I ignored the burning discharge because I thought it would clear up on its own. Now my penis looks like a burned-up ballpark hotdog."

If you're Holland, Belgium, Poland, Russia, or France, this story probably raises a few goosebumps on your arms.

What would you do if your income disappeared? As long as hobos roam the land and the market for hobo-jerky remains robust, my income will never disappear.

Visit us for our overpriced coffee; stay for the boner-inducing ladies in skimpy outfits. Somehow I don't think this was what Tom Friedman had in mind when he started calling for new erections in America's cities.

Here's a handy tip: if you're nearing retirement, don't piss your money away. It's not differential calculus, folks. If you don't save enough when you're young to carry you when you're old, and if you spend what little you do have (and more besides) on shit you don't need, then don't come crying to me about how your retirement is "endangered". You got your own ass into the crack; you can get your own ass out. (Oh, and if you're supporting your 25+ year old sons or daughters? Kick their goldbricking asses out of the house and tell them the tit has run dry.) Here's a feculent little nugget for you:

Although young Americans grew up in a world of easy credit, older bankruptcy filers have 50% more credit card debt, according to Pottow's study. The median credit card debt of older bankruptcy filers in 2007 was $22,562, compared with $13,615 for younger filers, the study said.
I feel bad for old folks who get into a financial hole because of unexpected medical problems, but I don't consider getting cancer after 40 years of smoking, or diabetes after a lifetime of eating Ring Dings and drinking soda-pop by the liter, or hypertension after eating too much salt and fat, to be "unexpected". If you're going to expect me to help cover the cost of your health-care in your geezerhood, then you're going to have to allow me to insist that you eat better and get more exercise when you're younger. It's only fair. Tyrannical, you say? Fair enough. Eat, drink, and be merry, then -- and pay for the consequences yourself.

A wizened little gnome straight out of a Brothers Grimm fairy tale Teh Krugman gives the dead horse another resounding thump with his cudgel. The villagers wonder if they shouldn't put the poor soul in an asylum somewhere for his own safety, but it pleases His Majesty King Obama to watch his subject's antics from the palace window, so they leave him be. (Stephen Spruiell at NRO cuts Teh Krugman a bit of slack, and exercises some Shaolin-style chart-fu.)

The Fed to Bloomberg: F[REDACTED] YOU.

Britons tighten their belts to hang on to little luxuries.

Jeffrey Katzenberg: "As far as I'm concerned, giving you a rotten, thumping headache is my #1 job." (I'm paraphrasing a bit, but that's the gist of it.)

I always knew that Sauron was a pothead. It's that giant, bloodshot, flaming eyeball. It's a dead giveaway. It also explains the Dorito shortage throughout much of Middle Earth. (The whole place is full of confused dope fiends. Why else would Sam and Frodo fucking walk all the way to Mordor and Mount Doom when Gwaihir could have flown them there in like fifteen minutes? I'll tell you why: they were high. Gandalf too. Completely baked. Nobody was thinking clearly. They could have dropped the ring into the volcano from the air and been home in time for afternoon tea.)

TWO GENTLEMEN FROM CALIFORNIA - A TRAGEDY IN ONE ACT
(SCENE: A rustic cabin in the Sierra mountains. Autumn. A BEAR can be heard roaming about outside.)
[Chet]: We've been holed up in this cabin for days! Is the bear still out there?
[Chuck]: (Looks out the window.) Yeah.
[Chet]: So what are we going to do?
Chuck: Is the door locked? He can't get in, right?
[Chet]: Well...the lock is broken. But I don't think the bear knows that. We've got to chase him off before he realizes he can break down the door. How can we chase him off?
[Chuck]: Uh...we could throw bundles of money at it.
[Chet]: We already tried that! Like a hundred times! We don't have any money left!
[Chuck]: Oh. We could engage the bear in a multispecies roundtable and establish a consensus of understanding where we respect his bear-ness and he respects our human-ness, and we all agree not to eat or maul each other.
[Chet]: ...that is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. Why don't you just go out and let the bear eat you? While he's busy gnawing on your patchouli-flavored hippie carcass, I can make my getaway.
[Chuck]: Well, what do you suggest, Mister I'm-So-Smart?
[Chet]: (Thinking) Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. He can't hang around forever, right? Right?
(CHET and CHUCK stare out the window for a long moment as the BEAR comes closer, roaring mightily.)
[Chuck]: So...we're screwed. That's basically what you're saying.
[Chet]: Yeah. We're boned. We'll be bear-shit in some leafy glade before the end of the day.
(The curtain falls as the roaring of the BEAR overwhelms everything.)
***FIN***

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This one goes out to all the finance-industry bullshit artists, dumbass lying politicians, perfidous bankers, and mentally-arthritic liberals. Oh, and Beaver's Mom.

Posted by: Monty at 03:41 AM | Comments (58)
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1 Lead, legumes, and liquor.  Those are the currency in a collapse.

Oh, and hummers, too.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 26, 2010 03:50 AM (lN56Y)

2 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 26, 2010 07:50 AM (lN56Y)

Don't forget bus tickets out of California. Those are going to be valuable soon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 26, 2010 03:52 AM (LH6ir)

3 Fun-flation!

By the way, more sobering news

Dollar at Risk of Becoming 'Toxic Waste': Charts



Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 26, 2010 03:56 AM (9hSKh)

4 (The whole place is full of confused dope fiends. Why else would Sam and Frodo fucking walk all the way to Mordor and Mount Doom when Gwaihir could have flown them there in like fifteen minutes? I'll tell you why: they were high. Gandalf too. Completely baked. Nobody was thinking clearly. They could have dropped the ring into the volcano from the air and been home in time for afternoon tea.)

lol, have you seen this, Monty?  HISHE might have stolen this idea from you.

How Lord of the Rings should have ended.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 26, 2010 03:57 AM (9hSKh)

5 The story of the bear reminded me of a joke.

Two Canadians are snowed in to their cabin.  To stave off cabin fever one of them suggests "20 questions".

"OK, then, Carl, you tink of sumthin' and I'll try to guess what it is in 20 questions, eh?"

"OK", says Carl, and the first thing that pops into Carl's head is "moose cock".  "Alrighty", says Carl.  "I'm a-ready, Stan".

So Stan asks "Well, lessee here, uh.  Can ya eat it?"

And Carl thinks for a minute and says "Well, yeah, if you was really hungry I suppose ya could eat it, sure."





So Stan says "Is it moose cock?"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 26, 2010 03:57 AM (lN56Y)

6 Lead, legumes, liquor and H2O...

During the mid-60s when LBJ took Vietnam engagement to a whole new War level, the advice I heard adults discuss was to load up on silver with some gold not only because silver was less expensive to buy, but because it would be the easier metal to trade in common were the worst to come. Hell, what was the "worst" before Nixon gave our gold to France, and bipartisans committed America to insurmountable debt to Red China?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 26, 2010 03:58 AM (H+LJc)

7 if you spend what little you do have (and more besides) on shit you don't need

I do that.  TARP, social security, Medicare, flowers for the Speaker's office, greens fees.......

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 26, 2010 03:59 AM (lN56Y)

8
How Lord of the Rings should have ended.


Beto said the Eagles could have done their bit at the beginning of the Trilogy rather than waiting 'til the end.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 26, 2010 04:00 AM (H+LJc)

9 Inflation on the way???? I have some news, it has been here already for a long time.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 04:03 AM (/jbAw)

10 Inflation on the way???? I have some news, it has been here already for a long time.

Inflation has remained below expectations, excluding the volatile food and energy sectors.  Therefore, we advise staying home under a blanket and losing some weight.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve Bank-A Private Corporation Funded by the American People at October 26, 2010 04:06 AM (lN56Y)

11 10 Inflation on the way???? I have some news, it has been here already for a long time.

I took that statement to mean "mega-inflation". 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 26, 2010 04:06 AM (9hSKh)

12 Nearing 55 and can't retire???  Do you know what I have seen as the number one killer of retirement?

Divorce!  lawyers are now soaking guys for their retirement cash balance (since that BS started) AND their 401Ks.

I know a guy from where I used to work who got married and divorced 3 times. Once is bad enough, but 3 times means you will NEVER be able to retire.

Folks, if you are guy, don't get divorced.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 04:08 AM (/jbAw)

13 Visit us for our overpriced coffee; stay for the boner-inducing ladies in skimpy outfits. Somehow I don't think this was what Tom Friedman had in mind when he started calling for new erections in America's cities. It worked for Hooters.

Posted by: Dave C at October 26, 2010 04:08 AM (6W34m)

14 #13  Folks, if you are guy, don't get divorced.

Even better, don't get married.  Live as minimalist as you can to save up for the times of the twilight. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 26, 2010 04:10 AM (9hSKh)

15 I feel bad for old folks who get into a financial hole because of unexpected medical problems, but I don't consider getting cancer after 40 years of smoking, or diabetes after a lifetime of eating Ring Dings and drinking soda-pop by the liter, or hypertension after eating too much salt and fat, to be "unexpected".

We fully expect busybody government to start with that BS as soon as they came up with health scam. When conservative bloggers do it before the government we have to know it is coming.

BTW Monty, the salt myth for high blood pressure was debunked long ago. The primary reason for4 high blood pressure??? Age, followed by overweight, followed by lack of exercise.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 04:13 AM (/jbAw)

16

The German will dominate economically, as they should have done in the first place in the 20th Century.

No more Britian using France and Russia as a foil to keep Germany from controlling Europe. As both have been making cuts to their military and are so economically weak.

 

Germany leading mainland Europe is/was inevitable. They are the most populus, intellegent, and hard working of the Europeans.

Obviously all of Europe is boned because of Demographics, but clearly germany will control the shrinking pie.

Not sure how I feel about it. I'm not concerned about a war or anything, and it would be nice if a German led Europe were strong enough that we could rescind our nuclear umbrella and pull out most of our bases from Germany and other Western European nations that don't particularly want us there anyway.

We'll always have allies on the continent in Poland.

Posted by: Ben at October 26, 2010 04:14 AM (wuv1c)

17 Well this story has made a financial decision for me easy.  I will be selling my shares of the Vanguard S&P 500 mutual fund today.  I can't post the link but it has to do with Vanguard endorsing Democrats and Obama and they are saying that they are our saviors and without them, it would be far worse.

Posted by: CDR M at October 26, 2010 04:15 AM (y67bA)

18
When the dollar falls before its "too cheap" low a year ago, toxic waste, quote from an Obama "enemy"... Robin Griffiths, technical strategist at Cazenove Capital, told CNBC Monday.

"Run Scared!"

Posted by: maverick muse at October 26, 2010 04:20 AM (H+LJc)

19 It's time to keep your damned lunch money. GO RALPHIE! Along with flap-eared hats, I approve this message.

Posted by: Mrs. Parker at October 26, 2010 04:23 AM (zw+pb)

20 I take all my financial advice from Monty!

Him, and the weevils that live in my beard.

Posted by: Randy Quaid at October 26, 2010 04:37 AM (MMC8r)

21 BTW Monty, the salt myth for high blood pressure was debunked long ago. Er...not so much. High sodium intake is still considered a contributor to high blood pressure. See here: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sodium/NU00284

Posted by: Monty at October 26, 2010 04:45 AM (4Pleu)

22 Er...not so much. High sodium intake is still considered a contributor to high blood pressure. See here: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sodium/NU00284

Posted by: Monty at October 26, 2010 08:45 AM (4Pleu)

There is some disagreement. Believe me I did a LOT of research on this after my heart attack. The only people affected by salt intake are people who are allergic to salt and people who have degenerative heart failure.

That is the consensus of the majority of the researchers. Also, as I said, the largest contributor is age. If you get old, you will likely get high BP regardless of all other factors.

I don't have a bunch of links because my research was done via hard text and books.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 04:51 AM (/jbAw)

23 Anyway have to go into town. Back later.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 04:52 AM (/jbAw)

24

Visit us for our overpriced coffee; stay for the boner-inducing ladies in skimpy outfits. Somehow I don't think this was what Tom Friedman had in mind when he started calling for new erections in America's cities.

 

That link was useless without pics

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at October 26, 2010 04:55 AM (E0EDC)

25 Outlaw: if that post is NSFW, please flag it as such.

Posted by: Monty at October 26, 2010 05:04 AM (4Pleu)

26 Posted by: Monty at October 26, 2010 08:45 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 08:51 AM (/jbAw)

Salt sensitivity is by far the largest influence on blood pressure.

And this.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 26, 2010 05:06 AM (LH6ir)

27 Oops!
Above is NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 26, 2010 05:08 AM (LH6ir)

28 Nah, Monty.  It's safe.  No more risque than cheerleader pics.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at October 26, 2010 05:09 AM (E0EDC)

29 Monty, you are like unto a god to me. (spoken by someone who started buying silver and gold in 2004)

Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at October 26, 2010 05:13 AM (9t8H2)

30 Monty, you are like unto a god to me. My cult grows apace! It is amusing to me how many of my friends and acquaintances who used to make fun of me for being a gold bug are all of a sudden asking me to hook them up with the barbaric yellow metal. I had people mocking me for paying $400/oz for gold way back when, telling me I was a fool; ditto at $800/oz and $1000/oz. They've become very quiet over the past year or so. A sign of the times: a fly-by-night gold-buying joint just opened up in our local mall. The prices they're quoting are hilarious, though. They could at least offer you a kiss, given the screwing they give you later.

Posted by: Monty at October 26, 2010 05:27 AM (4Pleu)

31
Gold & silver.....pshaw.

Lead, brass and copper.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 26, 2010 05:37 AM (DZVrI)

32 Salt sensitivity is by far the largest influence on blood pressure.

By far a myth but believe what you want..

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 05:45 AM (/jbAw)

33

If you're going to expect me to help cover the cost of your health-care in your geezerhood, then you're going to have to allow me to insist that you eat better and get more exercise when you're younger. It's only fair. Tyrannical, you say? Fair enough. Eat, drink, and be merry, then -- and pay for the consequences yourself.

So, ummm, who's going to be the judge of that? Michelle Obama? The health panels?

This has been done in Britain for years, under socialized medicine.

Posted by: HH at October 26, 2010 06:11 AM (6oDXl)

34 Yep, silver is easier to get a hold of. Just look on ebay for non-numismatic (not collector quality) pre-1964 coins. I bought a bunch for safe-deposit a couple weeks ago.

I still think we will deflate first, reason - massive credit collapse.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at October 26, 2010 06:18 AM (LdYLm)

35 So if there is a round of planned inflation increase coming, will they also give SS recipients a COLA adjustment that wasn't done the last two years? As I understand it, inflation didn't meet it's benchmark 2 years running, so no COLA.

  Betcha the seniors will just LOVE that, if nothing's done. Can anyone inform me here?

Posted by: irongrampa at October 26, 2010 06:20 AM (ud5dN)

36 It's more than 'disregard for the common man', I'd credit them with 'disdain for the common man'.

Posted by: t-bird at October 26, 2010 06:24 AM (FcR7P)

37 38 It's more than 'disregard for the common man', I'd credit them with 'disdain for the common man'.

Posted by: t-bird at October 26, 2010 10:24 AM (FcR7P)

No, it's dick-regard for the common man.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at October 26, 2010 06:25 AM (LdYLm)

38 Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 09:45 AM (/jbAw)

In people with salt sensitivity, high blood pressure is a huge problem. Most people are not sensitive to salt, so normal consumption does not have any adverse consequences.

If you are arguing that people make too big a deal out of salt, then I agree. But if you are arguing that the relationship between salt and high blood pressure is a myth, then...blow me.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 26, 2010 06:46 AM (LH6ir)

39 California: "Screw the economy! We've got to protect Mother Gaia from this danger!"

Posted by: jwpaine at October 26, 2010 06:48 AM (FUozQ)

40 Why doesn't that link thingy work right?


Posted by: jwpaine at October 26, 2010 06:49 AM (FUozQ)

41 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 26, 2010 10:46 AM (LH6ir)

ok, I misundestood what you were trying to say. I agree people who are "salt sensistive" and people with congestive heart failure are the only ones who should be concerned with salt intake.

That doesn't mean that you need to do what an old friend of mine used to do, put salt on your potato chips. But you do not need to restrict salt in your diet either.

I actually did a field test shortly after my heart attack once I got back home. I spent the entire day doing normal activity except that every hour I took a BP reading.

The next day, same thing, except that I ate salty potato chips all day long and took hourly BP measurements.

No statistical difference between the days. The high salt diet had no impact at all.

Posted by: Vic at October 26, 2010 07:05 AM (/jbAw)

42

Posted by: runningrn at October 26, 2010 11:06 AM (qY2Vc)

Here, in KS, they had gone up some, but dropped the last week. And of course who bought gas when it was at the highest?...of course I was about on empty so there's that.

Posted by: HH at October 26, 2010 07:13 AM (6oDXl)

43

runningrn at October 26, 2010 11:06 AM (qY2Vc)

When Israel inevitable (and likely soon) strikes Iran to stop it's nuke program, oil prices will reach catastrophic prices.

Posted by: Rebar at October 26, 2010 07:13 AM (7gKAF)

44 I have a Vanguard Mutual Fund under the UPromise program for my grandson.

I have been intending to move it to a Money market because I fear the stock market will do a nose dive due to Soros machinations.

Today I am moving it.   They can get their management fees from Obama.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 26, 2010 07:20 AM (aXJHp)

45 Monty,  as an antique dealer I have been buying up sterling whenever I can get it cheap.  I have quite a stash of candlesticks and salt and pepper shakers,  all sterling.

Looks nice and is a great way to have some metal that also looks good in the house.

I also have been buying up lots of estate costume jewelry.   Often older people dump all of their jewelry together and quite often I find gold pieces mixed in with the costume stuff.   I sell the costume stuff on eBay and hold onto the gold pieces.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 26, 2010 07:25 AM (aXJHp)

46 I don't consider the opinion of that Vanguard administrator to be an endorsement of Obama and democrats; it was an opinion concerning the effect of the various stimulus programs enacted in response to the economic downturn and a prognosis of dismal affects without them. It hasn't turned me against Vanguard as a solid investment vehicle.

Posted by: sawhorse at October 26, 2010 08:09 AM (MVgm3)

47 It figures.

My old company had our 401K plan with Vanguard back in the late 1990s and early 2000s.  Strange thing:  When the market surged, our plan went up about 40 - 50 % of the market increase.  But when the market dropped, our 401K went down by 120 -130 % of the general market drop.

They are perfect Democrats, crooked and incompetent.

Posted by: GaryS at October 26, 2010 10:38 AM (WFVmk)

48 Vic @23 - "I don't have a bunch of links because my research was done via hard text and books. " There's your problem, right there. It just can't be accurate if it's not on Wikipedia.

Posted by: Penultimatum at October 27, 2010 12:30 AM (kgR43)

49 F Vangard.

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