1 I wonder why gas prices aren't soaring right now.

2

Obama is pro-business, but he needs to stick it to the dirty oil companies (and banks).

Thank God Reagan was wrong, and the costs of doing business will never trickle down to the middle class.

3 1: I think the recession is keeping energy consumption way down.

4

I wonder why gas prices aren't soaring right now.

Makes you scared to think about it doesn't it? Gulf spill, war in the Middle East, summer vacation season....is the economy worse than even Monty's letting on???

5 Does anyone seriously think this is still a recession?
If this administration was intentionally disrupting the economy to create a depression, would their actions be any different?

6

In keeping with the administration's rapprochement with Islam, maybe Barry could issue a fatwa against moving oil rigs out of the gulf.

Or maybe he could just give more money to the South American countries who are developing their oil resources.

 

7

I one bitches!

8 Good news, everyone!  George Soros is going to get an amazing deal on BP, as well as making a killing on Brazillian oil production!  It's a win-win!

9 If this administration was intentionally disrupting the economy to create a depression hated this country and was trying to destroy it, would their actions be any different?

10

Posted by: JohnJ at July 11, 2010 11:10 AM (tOePW)

At somepoint it will.  Right now this economy is in a deflationary cycle, which is why the Fed wants to keep printing money to pump it up, but this then devalues the money even more.

At someone in the next year, starting this Fall, there will a hyperinflationary depression, and higher gas prices very well could be the trigger.

11 thank obama that he is going to destroy my home economy because he wants to punish states that didn't vote for him.

12 Hey, dickhead, take a look at the map.

All these gulf states are RED states. 

I am not going to win them anyway, so fuck em.

Got that, I won.

13 8: Who cares why Obama hates America, why did the MFM pitch him to the country --they damn well knew how he thought and why did 52% of voters choose him in spite of loads of evidence of who he was with minimal internet searching. As Rush said on friday -- this country can probably survive Obama, but it can't survive the people that voted for him, they have got to be educated how the real world works.

14 "5 Does anyone seriously think this is still a recession? If this administration was intentionally disrupting the economy to create a depression, would their actions be any different? Posted by: Mark at July 11, 2010 11:15 AM (0nwFA)" I no longer believe ANY economic information from the Feds. We're in a depression, and soon it will be too obvious to deny.

15 On the day the Fifth Circuit ruled against, the Administration announced that if any company attempted to resume drilling it would reissue its drilling moratorium, forcing the issue back to the courts again.

In the old days of the oil wildcatters they would ignore the jug-eared asshole and go out drilling anyway.

Even now with wimpy CEOs if the courst have ruled and there is no injunction Obama can't do a damn thing. If they start drilling and he sends marshals they can easily get a writ and sue his communist ass off.

16 Currently we get 10% of our oil from the gulf. If it doesn't start back up the economy is even further in the shitter.

17

 this country can probably survive Obama, but it can't survive the people that voted for him, they have got to be educated how the real world works.

Yep, worrying only about Obama is analogous to only caring about hair loss resulting from your chemotherapy. Toonces is just a symptom of a much bigger problem.

60+ million dumbasses voted for this hate-filled perpetual victim over a POW.

18 I wanted to make energy prices "skyrocket" as well as wreck the economy...unfortunately I wrecked the economy first which made tightened oil supplies a moot point.

My bad!

19 Obama said he was going to save or create jobs. They just happen to be in other countries.

20 60+ million dumbasses voted for this hate-filled perpetual victim over a POW.

Hey, you talking about my peoples? 

I got 100,000 votes and didn't do shit. 

I AM SOMEBODY!!

21 OT:
For my fellow PNWesterners that are interested, that little shitbag Colton Harris-Moore has been caught (via Drudge).

22

wait until conoco phillips wants to move.... and i have read china is trying to pay more to rent these rigs until 2012. and at that time wouldn't surprise me, if china tries to buy them outright.

23 60+ million dumbasses voted for this hate-filled perpetual victim over a POW.

You better be thankful that the voters didn't know about my hot charkras, or I'd have won in 2000.

Come here baby!

24 I spoke with my brother in Gulf Shores yesterday. He's self-employed doing all sorts of maintenance and repair on boats. He averaged gross receipts for 24 months prior to the spill, then compared that to gross receipts since the spill. His business is down 85%.

25 Did I do Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

26

Alvin the Action Figure wins simply because he's black and has a 'D' by his name, but crackers are the real racists.

US Congressmen can smear an entire movement as racist and accuse them of yelling racial slurs, but crackers are the real racists.

White males (and Asians) are discriminated against in hiring and college admissions, but whitey's the real racist.

Black Panthers can intimidate and slur white people in front of polling places, but.....

The Left has killed satire.

27 I imagine that some rigs will move closer - off the Cuban coast, where Repsol YPF and the Chinese have a number of leases.  If that happens, maybe Havana will someday become a logistics center for the offshore industry kind of like Houston.  So then when Castro kicks or when relations are normalized, there will be a strong, low wage foreign competitor nearby.  Way to go.

28

60+ million dumbasses voted for this hate-filled perpetual victim over a POW.

And for that you can thank, mostly..the traitor media.

29 The Gulf states can weather this oil spill, but not Obama.

30
GREEN JOBS

GREEN JOBS

NEW ENERGY ECONOMY

GREEN JOBS

31 Yeah, I think it's a depression.

I went to our County Court complex in CA last week to do some business. When I worked there 10 years ago, there would be a line of cars half a block long waiting to get in the lot. The place was alive!

Last week, 2 cars.  When I left at 3 p.m., the streets were empty. Lot, half empty.

Depression.

32 OT

Dope smoking Ghey Dutch? or boozing sex crazed Spain?

Morons, I say Spain.  Gabe will probably disagree. 

At any rate we won't have this ghey sport to kick around for another four years, thank God for that.

33 If his middle name wasn't hussein, he'd be competent.

34 Just keep your hats on, 'cause I'm coming!

35 35 Just keep your hats on, 'cause I'm coming!

Those are the words I like to hear!

36

At least the business community is waking up to the sad fact that The Vapid One™ isn't just anti-business, he's anti-American, if the number of articles about business leaders crying about it on Drudge is any indication.

And judging by his tanking poll numbers, some of the 52% idiots are starting to wake up too.

I maintain (perhaps naively so, I'll admit) that Obama will unite the country in such a way that Dims will become unelectable for a long time. How many more need to suffer before it finally sinks in that we've managed to elect our enemies into office?

37 that little shitbag Colton Harris-Moore has been caught (via Drudge).
Posted by: jcjimi at July 11, 2010 11:34 AM

Oh Em Gee!

What the hell is that whiny fuckweasel Sheppy-Poo Smith gonna do on his show without the Barefoot Bandit to drool over talk about?

Back to serious stuff:

Even now with wimpy CEOs if the courst have ruled and there is no injunction Obama can't do a damn thing. If they start drilling and he sends marshals they can easily get a writ and sue his communist ass off.
Posted by: Vic at July 11, 2010 11:27 AM

And who's gonna stop Osama Obama? Eric Holder and the Department of Justice For the Select Few?

Face it: the Traitor-in-Chief and his co-conspirators have changed the rules, and they are getting away with it so far. Constitution? Gone. Bill of Rights? Vanished.

Right now, the nation is made up of three groups: ADHD-riddled squishes (Ed Morrissey, for example) who can muster a whole 30 seconds of outraged outrage but can "see the other side" and keep mouthing platitudes about 2012, as if the Chicago Jesus can't fix that election as completely as he has fixed previous votes; those who buy into Obama's godlike wonderfulness, and are ready to hang any racist teabagger who resists Hope & Change (I know several of these, and they are virulent); and those who are educated and patriotic.

Group Three couldn't fill a commuter train, it seems. Things have gotten so far out of hand that the corrective measures are almost all unpleasant.

Time to re-read the Declaration of Independence and draw the appropriate conclusions.

38 "President Obama's Gulf drilling moratorium has driven away its first oil rig."

I meant well.

39 The president is pursuing a rational, well thought out plan. If you kill enough jobs fewer people will be driving to work, reducing demand. Then you can kill drilling in the Gulf without raising gas prices. President Obama understands supply and demand perfectly.

40 Maybe he'll invite the drilling rig to a beer in the Rose Garden.

41 Holder/Obama now talking up sueing AZ for "racial profiling".

I wasn't aware that there was such a law on the books.

42 If his middle name wasn't hussein, he'd be competent.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 11, 2010 11:49 AM (r1h5M)

If his middle name weren't "Hussein", it'd be "Mohammed".   Of course, his first name probably would have been "Hussein", in that case, and his nickname, "Hoser".

43 @ #40 - What's scary is that almost makes sense. Kill demand, who needs supply? Whaddaya mean "unintended consequences"? I've gotten to the point where I can no longer discount this administrations actions as mere incompetence. Even a complete fuck-up gets something right once in a while.

44 If his daddy were white, he'd be currently fixing parking tickets in downtown Honolulu.

45 OT again, but this is really important good news!

http://tinyurl.com/23c7vfs

46 Ah-yup. President's sure got a purty mouth.

47 46 OT again, but this is really important good news!

http://tinyurl.com/23c7vfs

Posted by: Kemp at July 11, 2010 12:02 PM (2+9Yx)

Just when I thought the entire world was sinking into a deep hell-like abyss, here comes a shining ray of hope..

Thanks!

48

All is not lost. We still have plenty of places to drill that are more accessible than the Gulf. When the adults are back in charge, we can resume, if not increase drilling (hello ANWR ).

When the adults are back in charge...

And again, the GOP and Michael Potmetal are missing another golden opportunity to present a true, viable alternative to the job-killing policies of the Dims. They could be saying, "Our country is rich in natural resources, but Obama and his radical cohorts have prevented the safe harvesting of them for over a generation, while other countries have expanded their efforts, some of them in the Gulf of Mexico. Isn't it time we used America's resources for America's prosperity?"

But nooooo.

49

This asshole needs to be tarred and feathered and run out of DC on a Rail.

 

50 OT again, but this is really important good news!

http://tinyurl.com/23c7vfs

Posted by: Kemp at July 11, 2010 12:02 PM (2+9Yx)

One thing's for sure, as soon as that rock finds a permanent spot, the muzzies are going to build a mosque on top of it and claim it for their own. 

muslims love rocks.  Literally.

51

."I'm afraid this is the first of many rigs and many American jobs to leave the Gulf."

"Because of Obama's brilliant policies, more American workers will get to experience the liberating freedom of Funemployment"

 

FIFY

52 49

All is not lost. We still have plenty of places to drill that are more accessible than the Gulf. When the adults are back in charge, we can resume, if not increase drilling (hello ANWR ).

at July 11, 2010 12:05 PM (i3AsK)

Please remember that the soon-to-be-reelected RINO shitbag John McCain cast the single deciding vote NOT to drill in ANWR during W's term.

All is lost, but for the pudding...

53 Wow..this is genius...by moving this rig to Africa...there'll be no global warming in America

54

Seriously,

the retributionist-in-chief is surprised no one wants to create jobs??

Why the hell would anyone create any new wealth if its going to be redistributed anyways?

I have no plans to expand my biz, I have one biz collegue that has about 45 employees, they are NOT going to expand... in the DeathCare bill, go up beyond 50 employees and you will get hit will lots of mandates.

Again, why in hell would any business expand or hire new permanent employees  and create new wealth if its going to be redistributed anyways? 

55 Heh.  Something just occurred to me.  Remember Odipstick and his Greek Columns speech.  Greek. Greece. Debt.  I think they call that foreshadowing.

This oil rig post reminds me we are living out Atlas Shrugged.

56 A B O V E the L A W......B A B Y !

The Feringi ('cause it's all about the E A R S) Usurper (pox be upin him) assumes its Kingship and keeps its Queenie da Wookie at its side. All da wealth is taken from da half dat will work and given to da union thugs and da shiftless mobs - da half dat gathers in da spoils. Dis is according to da plans of da Feringi (pbuh).

Da corps-orations dat trodded down upon dat oppressed half of da nation will feel da Feringi's (pbuh)boot on deir froat faw evah and evah, ah-menFeringi (pbuh).  Already, das auto cumpanies have bowed down to da Feringi (pbuh) and da Bank of Amerikkka.  Surely, pestilence and ruin will follow da Krakas faw-evah more.

Justice is meaningless as da Black Panthers SS say woe be it to the Krakas.  Da sacred V O TE is now cast by da foreign "citizens" from Meheko as it should be for da Krakas have suppressed and exploited dem since long befow da Feringi (pbuh) became da DemiG_d.

Shurley, evah thang is unfoldin' as it should sayeth da Feringi (pbuh).

57 OT:  Did anyone else just catch that Israel-hating Dem Congresscritter who Shannon Bream just interviewed? 

That was insane.

58 gas prices will go up when the economy turns in 10 years or so. Mean while the 100,000 plus people who will lose their jobs in south La. because of the drilling shutdown will find it hard to pay the current price of gas. I hope that every person who voted for the Marxist in chief loses their job before anybody else but it is not so.

59 This motherfucker needs to be yanked out of the white house in handcuffs. The courts ruled, so who the fuck does he think he is?

60

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 11, 2010 12:13 PM (Qp4DT)

Yes I did. Nutjob. He was a pure nutjob.

61 That's okay.  Just like in Caleefornia, Arnie and Barry are going to develop all those "million and millions of green jobs".  Just you wait and see.  Any time now.  Soon.  Real soon.  Just you wait.  And wait.  And wait.

62 #57: Now hang on. The Ferengi were capitalists, and Obozo is most emphatically not.

63 Real soon.  Just you wait.  And wait.  And wait.

Posted by: GarandFan at July 11, 2010 12:15 PM (6mwMs)

Batteries baby, batteries. We will all be making batteries for the new hello kitty vibrator according to the Asshole in Cheif.

64 There's still plenty of industry left in this country. If we all bundle and sell credit default swaps to each other, we should be able to live quite nicely off the commissions. Who needs an energy sector?

65

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 11, 2010 11:55 AM (Ulu3i)

 

Roger that.  All enemies foreign and domestic.

66

November cannot come fast enough...

Low D enthusiasm + High R enthusiasm + Generic Ballot advantage to R + shitty economy + shittier news ahead + gulf oil spill + unemployment =

Lame Duck O.

 

Or so we can hope, so long as the spastic asshats that sat out 08 because "McCain isn't conservative enough" don't pull the same pathetic bullshit against Fiorina, Castle, Kirk, Ayotte, and Portman.

I want my fucking majority damnit. Even if I have to spread a zombie virus in California to force the DevoreCons to pull for Carly.

67 Awwww.  19 year old Barefoot Bandit caught.

68

TJ, if McCain gets reelected, he just might be persuaded to start voting a bit more conservatively, since he's the type who absoutely must stick his finger in the wind instead of voting from a firm set of principles.

Of course, the best scenario would be for him to be replaced with a real, live conservative. Hayworth ("Hey, it's your tax dollars!") hardly fits that description. The realignment of Congress will definitely take more than one election, I just hope we don't get complacent as a country, if we make big gains in November.

McCain definitely needs to go. POW or not, he doesn't seem to hold the nations' values in high regard, as evidenced from his squishy voting record.

69

Yes I did. Nutjob. He was a pure nutjob.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 11, 2010 12:14 PM (ACkhT)

My G-d, that was intense lunacy, with a healthy dose of evil.  I almost wonder if that guy grew up in Indonesia, too.

70 That's okay.  Just like in Caleefornia, Arnie and Barry are going to develop all those "million and millions of green jobs".  Just you wait and see.  Any time now.  Soon.  Real soon.  Just you wait.  And wait.  And wait.

Posted by: GarandFan at July 11, 2010 12:15 PM (6mwMs)

From the LA Times:

State law requires the Golden State's three large investor-owned utilities to procure 20% of their retail electricity sales from clean sources by the end of 2010. But with less than six months left to meet that requirement, even government watchdogs don't expect the power companies to make it.

snip~

Utility executives said they've moved aggressively to ink deals with renewable power producers throughout California. But some of those firms have had difficulty securing financing in a troubled economy. Others have hit technological snags or run into permitting and land-use hurdles that have delayed their timetables by months or even years. Transmission bottlenecks are another obstacle.

"The renewable projects tend to be out in the distance where our customers are not," said Stuart Hemphill, senior vice president of power procurement for Southern California Edison.

http://tinyurl.com/25okyb3

71 if McCain gets reelected, he just might be persuaded to start voting a bit more conservatively, since he's the type who absoutely must stick his finger in the wind instead of voting from a firm set of principles.

Not a chance. Just like Graham once they have that 6 year ticket they thumb their nose at the voters.

We need an amendment that allows recall.

72 >>I maintain (perhaps naively so, I'll admit) that Obama will unite the country in such a way that Dims will become unelectable for a long time.

Nope. I've been paying attention to the polls same as anybody, but I'm not seeing this, sadly.

Lots of 'conservative Dems' who really do know better will, despite their assertions to the contrary, vote Dem anyway. They'll fall for reasonable-sounding rhetoric because they haven't had the sense to get out of the Dems by now so they're lost to reason anyway.
Then there's the emotive & brain-dead Dems, which is most of them, who knee-jerk vote that way regardless of what happens. They believe entirely that the GOP can do nothing right.

For our part, we'll do our usual thumbs-up-the-butt thing and splinter into myriad mutually-exclusive cliques while the religious Cons stay home and pray.

2010 and maybe even 2012 is going to be mixed, not a landslide.

73

I cannot stand Romney... absolutely cannot stand this man, the only person I can't stand even more is Huckabee.

I hope to God, the repub's party nominate Gov. Palin, I will take 3 months leave of my job to campaign for this woman and fundraise for her.

74 #63. Yep the Feringi were capitalists but they treated their women like the dims treat theirs. However, it's da E A R S, damit, da E A R S that makes this name appropriate. Anywho, who's to say that there wasn't a single Kommie Feringi and we just happen to get stuck with it.

75 What is shitty about McCain is why the AZ Republican Party couldn't come up with a decent opposition candidate. 

76 Just watched Axelrod on CNN. What a lying sack of poop. Candy Crowley just starts him up and lets him spew talking points. I just found out about a nasty little part of the Health Care bill that requires small business to 1099 any supplier they buy more than 600 of product from. That will require paper work I can't even do. Now they want 2300 Pages of financial regulation. Who knows what will be in that?  Then the Energy bill. Holy cow. They are going to cram these through, and then blame the negatives on Republicans.

77

and still, I would walk over glass to vote against the community organizer. I normally don't pay attention to the midterms, used to vote straight democrat.

This year, all my spare change is going to every conservative, like Angle, Haley, Palin.

78 Maybe Obama is sending the Rigs to Gaza for Humaitarian Purposes?

79 I just found out about a nasty little part of the Health Care bill that requires small business to 1099 any supplier they buy more than 600 of product from. That will require paper work I can't even do. Posted by: kansas at July 11, 2010 12:24 PM (Q9Tg4)

So ... you'll have to hire someone to do it. What do you think stimulus is? Paperwork IS stimulus!

80 apparently I forgot the 'n', in Humanitarian

81

"The Arab world, the muslim world want to move forward with peace, but that can't happen if you keep taking Palestinian lands."
---Dem Congressman

They can't be this stupid. Is their solution the 'final' one?

82

Posted by: kansas at July 11, 2010 12:24 PM (Q9Tg4)

Yep. I have around 20 employees, I will have to spend more time filling more damn 1099 forms. And unlike corporations, I can't afford another accountant.

And the damn fool in the WH can't understand why small biz won't hire people.

They are inflicting as much damage as they can to small businesses. Even if my biz picks up revenue, and I don't see that happening, I have no plans to hire anyone permanent in the next years, part timers yes, no deathcare mandate applies, but full time employees, no.

and I suspect those that have 50 employess will be firing a few to get under that 50 person company to not have to deal with deathcare mandates.

83

One thing that absolutely outrages me is that Oilbama and company are on every network blaming republicans for everything that has happened since they took office.

The democrats have controlled congress for almost 4 years, every budget, every lack of oversight, every law has all been done by democrats.

The unemployment rate was 5% when democrats took the congress, now it has doubled.

The republicans are fucking silent on this, they never bring it up and just sit back and let the democrats blame them for shit the democrats did.

84 What is shitty about Graham is why the SC Republican Party couldn't come up with a decent candidate. 

85 I'm afraid we will have to be able to impeach. Barry has shown he has no problem with ignoring laws. I suspect he will use EO's, and the power of the EPA, Dept of Interior etc to continue his rampage in the face of congressional opposition. Hopefully some Dems will join with R's to impeach him to save the country or their party. So I've been trying to support conservative candidates in the primaries to hopefully get a GOP with enough spine to act. If we don't get a good # of conservative patriots like Alan West etc elected this fall so we can have a Honduras situation if it comes to that I fear we will have a Venezuela/Chavez situation. I hate the commie elements in the MFM and the universities with the heat of 1000 suns for putting this country in this spot.

86 Good, that rig was spoiling the pictures of me contemplating the sand down on the Gulf. In my loafers.

87 IMHO, if SarahCuda were to assume the reins of the GOP, squishes like McCain and Graham wouldn't be on the ballot. They're part of the blueblood, country club wing of the party that needs to be disbanded if the GOP are to start getting more votes.

88 What is shitty about Graham is why the SC Republican Party couldn't come up with a decent candidate.

Because Graham owns the SC Republican Party.

89 Good, that rig was spoiling the pictures of me contemplating the sand down on the Gulf. In my loafers.

That's the opening shot of my new animated series.

90

Sarah is certainly not the answer.  Let Peggy Hill stay on the sidelines. 

Making her an official voice for the Republican Party would be a lose, lose scenario.  She should have stayed in public service if she wanted to run for higher office.

91 IMHO, if SarahCuda were to assume the reins of the GOP, squishes like McCain and Graham wouldn't be on the ballot.

You are thoroughly mistaken in your belief about the power of the GOP Chairman. He really has none.

As for people like Graham being on the ballot there is NOTHING the GOP can do about that. Hell, they can't even strip him of committee assignments. Only the Senate leadership can do that AFTER a vote of all the Republicans.

92 As for people like Graham being on the ballot there is NOTHING the GOP can do about that. Hell, they can't even strip him of committee assignments. Only the Senate leadership can do that AFTER a vote of all the Republicans.

Posted by: Vic at July 11, 2010 12:40 PM (/jbAw)

Jeebus, IMO that last thing we need to be worrying about is John McCain or Lindsey Graham. We need to take back control of the house and senate first then we can start culling.

93 Sarah is best where she is right now. I'm in no mood to motivate the Dem base in any way. Their opposition to her is both unthinking and viral. Like zombies

94

"Making her an official voice for the Republican Party would be a lose, lose scenario"

I doubt Gov. Palin wants to be an official voice for the repub party. She wants to be and IS the official voice for conservatism. She is the only one I see who is always hitting the community organizer's policies over and over again and she is the only one who has any real impact.

Romney and Huckabee seem to be hiding behind her skirt.

95 22 OT:
For my fellow PNWesterners that are interested, that little shitbag Colton Harris-Moore has been caught (via Drudge).
  I'm sure he'll manage to escape somehow (he's really good at that).  I was hoping he would be caught in a body bag (and I normally don't wish ill on people, but this little jerk has done so much harm to so many people).   I hope his idiot mom gets sent to jail as an accessory too (WA state has been cracking down on that since the whole Maurice Clemmons incident.)

96
The little known fact about the additional tens of millions of 1099's is some gov'mint slub will be required to enter the data for compilation.  Where do these sum bitches come from?

Well boys and girls, you guessed correctly.  The IRS will conveniently be forced to hire thousands of additional clerks to perform this function.  Hence, more fucking democrat voters and suckers of Obama's cock.

97 This is exactly why Obama will be reelected: even here on Ace, too many are willing to lie down and concede to the MFM's narrative.

98 At this point, let Sarah just put out those teaser videos thru Sarah Pac whether she will run or not.  But don't announce anything.  not until 2011.

99 Speaking of head of the RNC, I think Jon Voight would be great in that role.  He is such an effective communicator and he doesn't try to be all P.C. and crap.  I think as a non-politician, he'd be a breath of fresh air.

100

First Rig Sets Sail from the Gulf

 

Kind of a metaphor for American greatness and exceptionalism.  Sad.

101 I agree, Jon Voight would make a great RNC chairman, his daughter can't stand the community organizer either.

102 "Roberts has made his decision, now let him enforce it."

103

_{I doubt Gov. Palin wants to be an official voice for the repub party. She wants to be and IS the official voice for conservatism. She is the only one I see who is always hitting the community organizer's policies over and over again and she is the only one who has any real impact.}

She's a Pundit, now.  Get used to it. 

The best she could hope for as an official position is Chairman for the Republican Party.

As for her being the 'Voice of Conservatism'.  That's an inane position to take.  She can't be the 'Voice...' if 50%+ of Conservatives find her Shrill and annoying. 

If you want Peggy Hill for President!  so be it. 

Some people wanted Ralph Nader, others Ross Perot, and still more want Ron Paul.

104 He's sending all these rigs to Egypt and the Middle East as a way of reaching out to the Muslim world and engaging with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to the world's energy markets.

I'm at the family sin palace at Fort Morgan again this weekend.  I don't have tickets to tonight's Buffet concert, so I'll watch it live on CMT whilst I scarf down cheeseburgers in paradise and wash'em down with Margaritas.

I wrote a blog post this morning about my Gulf Coast brotha from anotha motha.

I'm gonna need a day off tomorrow, I think.
 

105

"Making her an official voice for the Republican Party would be a lose, lose scenario"

Yeah, history really backs you up on that one. Having a firebrand devisive spokesman sure didn't work for the democrats with Howard Dean, unless of course you count taking the house, senate and presidency as a win or something.

106

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2010 12:52 PM (uwK3g)

Well, I always knew there was a diverse community on Ace's site, I see there are some Palin haters here as well.

So,I'm curious, I'm guessing if its the President community organizer vs Gov. Sarah Palin, you will be voting for the community organizer or staying home and not voting?

107 If you voted for Obama, you are an idiot and are directly responsible for why these people are losing their jobs.

108 yikes, just realised I need to go to work in a little while, Good Afternoon everyone.

109

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 11, 2010 12:29 PM (ACkhT)

johnc, I have a friend who was a liberal democrat until he opened up a string of successfull resteraunts in Phoenix in the early 80's.  Now he is a rock ribbed conservative and freely admitts the error of his old ways. 

Thanks for having the drive to create jobs and run a business. My group has 7 employees.  VP Bite Me had it wrong.  Creating jobs is patriotic.

110

_{Posted by: robtr at July 11, 2010 12:53 PM (fwSHf)}

Look, you want to hang around the sandbox all day hoping for a peek up Sarah's skirt, that's cool with me.  But your comparison is faulty.

Dean was only a fragment of the success that resulted from Dems 'Do Nothing' policies.  The Media did more to help the Dems than Dean did.  Or do you think the Bush Derangement Syndrome was part of Dean's Doctrine?

But you keep on.   Facebook is sure to be the answer to something.

 

111

What's even scarier is that the Obama voters saw the Dem Convention where he ascended into the heavens, or maybe Mount Olympus, they knew about the 20 years sitting in the pews of the Wright church, they knew about all his communist friends, knew his wife was no proud of the country, and they still voted for this unqualified arrogant racist.

With a porous border and public education, we conservatives (not white people!) are losing a numbers game. I think the best hope for the election in November is that Barack won't be on the ballot, because blacks and dumbass kids would show up to hit all the (D)s in the 98% range.

112

Posted by: Hammer at July 11, 2010 12:57 PM (GkYyh)

Yes. I wasn't a liberal dem, but more of a centerist one, now, I am now a registered independent. I have no plans to ever vote for another dem ever.  I had been a registered dem for close to 30 years.

Will never vote for another dem. not hillary, no one. 

well, better get going, already late to work, have a great afternoon everyone.

113

Look, you want to hang around the sandbox all day hoping for a peek up Sarah's skirt, that's cool with me.  But your comparison is faulty.

Dean was only a fragment of the success that resulted from Dems 'Do Nothing' policies.  The Media did more to help the Dems than Dean did.  Or do you think the Bush Derangement Syndrome was part of Dean's Doctrine?

But you keep on.   Facebook is sure to be the answer to something.

 

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2010 12:59 PM (uwK3g)

Screw you and your idiotic remarks.

114

_{So,I'm curious, I'm guessing if its the President community organizer vs Gov. Sarah Palin, you will be voting for the community organizer or staying home and not voting?}

Apparently, at least some of you is still dumb enough to think/argue like a Democrat.

Sarah has a little cache left.  Mostly it is as a mudslinger. 

She is not and has never been a viable candidate for higher office.  My opinion on this does not factor in.

 

115

What's even scarier is that the Obama voters saw the Dem Convention where he ascended into the heavens, or maybe Mount Olympus, they knew about the 20 years sitting in the pews of the Wright church, they knew about all his communist friends, knew his wife was no proud of the country, and they still voted for this unqualified arrogant racist.

Posted by: gator at July 11, 2010 01:00 PM (aOKEC)

That's why I say that it's pretty clear that America, in the throes of a psychotic break brought on by the credit crisis, actively chose national "Suicide by Indonesian" on Nov 4th, 2008.

116 I'm with garrett: Palin is a quitter! McCain/Huckabee 2012!

117

_{Screw you and your idiotic remarks.}

You are right. 

The answer to 'Chocolate Jesus' is a 'Momma Grizzly'.

How did I miss that?

118 I'm with garrett: Palin is a quitter!

McCain/Huckabee 2012!

Posted by: Raydick Mulva at July 11, 2010 01:04 PM (132iP)

I'm with you and garrett, David Frum for RNC chairman too. We wouldn't want to sling any mud now would we.

119 'Cuda!

120 Mostly it is as a mudslinger. Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2010 01:03 PM (uwK3g) Specify.

121

You are right. 

The answer to 'Chocolate Jesus' is a 'Momma Grizzly'.

How did I miss that?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2010 01:05 PM (uwK3g)

I'm talking about your 3 year old sexist remarks like shrill and looking up somebodies skirt.

I hope that works out for you.

YEAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRG

122 She has a bigger set of balls than any of you RINO whiners.

123

You Palinistas are funneh.

 

124

"She is not and has never been a viable candidate for higher office. "

Neither was the community organizer, and yet here we are.

Gov. Palin not only has to deal with rather amazingly insulting dems towards her, but repubs as well towards her. No wonder both establishment parties cannot stand her and are pretty frightened by her.  But real conservatives do support her. 

There was a reason even in AK, the oil companies who normally owned the repub party refused to give her any money, and gave it to the dem candidate instead, for the first time in AK electoral politics. They knew Gov. Palin could not be controlled and play footsie with the industry. 

Anyone who can irk the establishment on both sides that much is a damn good candidate.

125 Relevantly, Palin and a GOP Congress would open up drilling in shallow waters, ANWR, etc. Much to the delight of sensible Americans.

126 garret, can you back up your remark about mudslinging?

127 Relevantly, Palin and a GOP Congress would open up drilling in shallow waters, ANWR, etc.

Much to the delight of sensible Americans.

Posted by: eman at July 11, 2010 01:10 PM (132iP)

True, I don't know if Palin is the right one or not. I know one thing though, I am not joining the leftists in their condencending, sexist hate fest though.

128 Sarah's out there swinging The Stick

While you sit here swinging your dick.

129 Geez.

Look, Sarah would be a dream in the Presidency - but she'd have to get voted in first. Not going to happen, at least in this cycle. It's a tragedy of the first order, but there it is.

Find another potential candidate. Sarah may help to point the way to that leader.

I think we're going to wind up with the next Pres being a hard-ass, whether Dem or GOP, FWLIW.

130

_{Anyone who can irk the establishment on both sides that much is a damn good candidate.}

could be a damn good candidate.  In order to do so, they must act properly as well.

The argument you propse prior to this is faulted. 

Obama was a weak Candidate swept into office by emotional fervor. 

 So Sarah is an equitable candidate to be proposed for office provided the emotional tummult is sufficient to get her elected?

The Traditions of the Office, which Obama flaunts and ignores, are no different than the traditional paths to the Presidency. 

 Sarah chose to migrate towards the spotlight rather than continue on the path of public service.  She has abandoned her one undeniable path of credibility to gain the one thing she lacked from day one - notoriety. 

Perhaps I am wrong, and Facebook is the answer.  It it may prove to be the answer to the question of electibility, but not to the problems facing our nation as a whole.

 

131 131, That's a reasonable position, but if you factor in just how disastrous Ebola is, anything is possible. All she has to do is win Iowa and the GOP farts will crumble.

132 garrett - what you and all the other "Palin's a quitter" bleaters miss is this: She quit for the good of her state. The Democrats made it perfectly clear that they were willing to bankrupt the state to destroy her. I will agree with you on one point though - she's not president material right now. Too many soft spots for the MFM to attack as long as she has younger children. We need someone who is willing to tell the establishment to go piss up a rope. But New Jersey needs him more right now.

133 63 #57: Now hang on. The Ferengi were capitalists, and Obozo is most emphatically not.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2010 12:16 PM (imD7p)

And we all know what Roddenberry really meant by "capitalists"...

134 garrett is just a "Sarah=Quitter" troll. Please, cheesedick.

135

_{garret, can you back up your remark about mudslinging?}

Perhaps 'Muck Raking' would be a better fit.

She is on the sidelines commenting like a partisan Pundit.  I don't think a Politician with national appeal as a Presidential Candidate can get away with that. 

There's a degree of respect that needs to be maintained to protect the image of the candidate.  Not McCain or Bush II type stoicism, but an appearance as such.

Sarah does not have that.  

136

Perhaps 'Muck Raking' would be a better fit.

She is on the sidelines commenting like a partisan Pundit.  I don't think a Politician with national appeal as a Presidential Candidate can get away with that. 

There's a degree of respect that needs to be maintained to protect the image of the candidate.  Not McCain or Bush II type stoicism, but an appearance as such.

Sarah does not have that.  

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2010 01:24 PM (uwK3g)

David Frum, is that you?

137

_{garrett - what you and all the other "Palin's a quitter" bleaters miss is this: She quit for the good of her state. The Democrats made it perfectly clear that they were willing to bankrupt the state to destroy her.}

Good Luck selling that tripe in a national election with 0 media assistence.

She had a weak set of advisors who convinced her that she needed to move into the 'mainstream'.  She chose fame.  She chose to be branded like the 'Chocolate Wun'. 

 

 

 

138 138, Indeed she is partisan; that is not a mark against her. Her remarks are correct and effective against Democrats, and helpful to Republicans. Is that the root of your disapproval?

139

_{Is that the root of your disapproval?}

The root of my disapproval is that she is a weak candidate and easy mark for the left.  Making her a useful tool for the conservative movement rather than a Buckley-esque 'Godot'.

 

140 Garrett - Despite "0 media assistance" she's the only Republican on the national stage that has any name recognition at all.

141

_{That was funny, right there.}

Thanks? 

142 134
She'd be killed at the national level. Currently, anyway. Identify her base - it's you. Are you & yours truly a majority? Did women back her nationally or were they repelled?
Identify Obama's base - how many, percentages, do you think can be co-opted by her declaring for President? Where do you think the national - not the conservative national - mood is right now?

Both wings are spoiling for a fight, I think. Both see the next cycle and/or 10 years on as being vital for changing the country towards their views. Altering it.

The only salient 3rd viewpoint I'm seeing is for a hard-ass to emerge, slapping down spending and everything else. A national Daddy with a big belt looking to whoop-ass on ALL the kids. Sarah ain't that girl, in an image sense, although I'll grant she would do just that.

The risk is that hard-ass may very well be the strongman predicted by Hayek. I've always been more concerned with who comes after Odumbass, anyway. All conditions for tyranny are now set, after all, which is why we're debating candidates so fkn early - its that important.

143 People!  Do NOT feed the trolls.

Deftly swinging this thing back on topic, guess who's scheduled to play his ninth game of golf since the April 20 explosion, fire and sinking of the Deepwater Horizon that killed 11 men and began the worst oil spill in the nation's history?

One Guess.

144 Hey Garrett - just a question: Do you have any names to offer, or are you just here to bitch about Sarah? Personally, I think Chris Christie is a superior specimen for the office, and could be the "next Reagan" we've been looking for.

145

 _{Despite "0 media assistance" she's the only Republican on the national stage that has any name recognition at all.}

Got you. 

 Now ask yourself why this makes an Alinsky-ite Opposition gleeful at the prospect of running against her?

Sarah gives them Wood, but not in the way you'd think.

Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is necessary.

 

146 @GulfCoastTider: But it's important for Obama to play golf to relieve the stress of being The Smartest President Evah! You should be happy that he's willing to sacrifice the small people in service to the Greater Good.

147 @garrett - Actually, what you think makes them gleeful actually scares the shit out of them. They barely got away with attacking her the first time. They won't be able to pull it off twice. They can't attack her as being an inauthentic woman. They can't get away with calling her an idiot snowbilly hick. They can't attack her as an irresponsible breeder. They've fired all their shots, and she's still standing. Unless they've got something nuclear in their arsenal, they can't hurt her any more. Alinskyite tactics cannot win long-term, because they are dependent upon being able to completely control the narrative. The MFM doesn't do that any more. The Internet FTW!

148 Add:
The hard-ass I'm predicting will also be expected to "get shit done" no matter how that happens. We've lived through more than a decade of gov't impotence on national matters - Katrina/NOLA, BP are the main culprits for that view.

149

I think there are several Politicians on the National Level that are spot on for the chance at 2012. 

But the mid-terms are going to change the field immensely in my opinion.  Right now we are reading the Barometer in our 'Trick Knees', flipping through the Almanac, and guessing.

Once we get a feel for the Damage the 'O' has wrought for himself, we'll be better able to measure the candidates. 

 As much as I like P. Ryan, youth might not be the sell right now...Christie is a dynamo and an obvious choice for a VP candidate. 

 I live in fear of Jeb Bush. 

"Three Times the Bush"  - is a hard sell. Market-wise.

150

Posted by: brian at July 11, 2010 01:39 PM (y05cf)

I envy you your faith, good sir.

But I think they would be very motivated to hear you say such.  They are herding sheep.

You seek to win a war of concepts and lofty ideals.  Which is fine if you are not trying to get the sheep across the road.

The sheep will be less motivated by your tactics than theirs, I am afraid.

151 garret is hinting Mitt-love. And back on topic, Ebola needs to rest. Destroying a Republic can drain a guy.

152

Not a fan of teh Mittens.  Trust not the Massholes. 

Sorry.  it's the New Yorker in me.

153 Good Luck selling that tripe in a national election with 0 media assistence.

Yes, let us get the media to choose out candidates for us again.  After all

Only McCain can beat Hillary.

154

Palin shuts off the rational sector in the brains of her supporters and enemies, equitably. 

This is what I fear.

155 Exactly as planned.

Look everyone knows that the way to get America off exported oil is to shut down what little oil production is still happening in the USA.  Go long Unicorn Farts as the energy of Obama's America.

156

_{Yes, let us get the media to choose out candidates for us again.  After all}

Again, not the argument at hand. I never suggested such.  Merely pointing out the weakness of the proposed candidate. 

 

157 Palin shuts off the rational sector in the brains of her supporters and enemies, equitably. This is what I fear. Posted by: garrett So, you think you are being irrational? Stop with the Vulcan shit. You are reacting to her in a visceral way. Your arguments against her are based on unfounded anxiety. If you are to be believed at all.

158

_{You are reacting to her in a visceral way. Your arguments against her are based on unfounded anxiety. If you are to be believed at all.}

I have anxiety that Sarah Palin lacks;  appeal, is shrill, is acting as a partisan pundit rather than a candidate for office, has little experience or credentials for the office of president, is polarizing within and without the party, is working against her chances at achieving national office, appeals only to the lowest common denominator in BOTH parties?

No.  Those are her credentials.

She's Peggy Fucking Hill.

 

159 whoops semi colon in wrong spot.

160 Lalalala I can't hear you! lalalala Haters gonna hate!

161

Actually, I shut off at the sound of her voice. It's awful to me. 

 As such, I read what she 'writes' and the coverage from her events in the Conservative media.  I can't wade through the vitriol of the MSM or leftist commentary on her often, as it is mostly irrelavent to the subject matter. 

 I appreciate the opinions of those Pundits you mention, but I read most of their commentary as complimentary rather than supportive of her hopes for office. To me they are paying lip service to her and approving of her actions, not of her (potential) candidacy.  I never said she was a bad advocate for conservatism.  I just scoff at her credentials to be named de facto leader of a movement she has difficulty articulating. 

Certainly conservatives would vote for her over Obama. 

To me, she's a less than appealing candidate.  I suspect many feel the same way, but don't want to upset those who think otherwise.  She can be a useful tool, but nothing more. This is my opinion based on who she is, what she says, and how she acts.

 Insulting?  Hardly.    

 

 

162 O/T:  Well they are taking a pre vacation vacation to Maine. "Thanks to Obama's economic policies, America gags down boxed macaroni and cheese and stale bologna sandwiches while the furlough-President indulges in bistros that touta la carte and prix-fixe menus [that] aren't cheap." The Rose Garden menu includes all-American favorites like "strudel filled with asparagus and Gruyère, peppery venison with squash puree," topped off by desserts like "mascarpone cheesecake."

Meantime, hillbill is fixing to take advantage of someone's bankruptcy
And, with this story, went any notion I might ever entertain to vote for hillary.  I thought the administration was playing nice and we all should learn to play nice but the article doesn't give ya the warm and fuzzies and you kinda feel this another one of those real estate deals that really benefits the buyer, like the one in Chicago did.  "The current owner, Paul Wallace, founded the Manhattan real-estate firm Broadstone Group. The 74-year-old retiree declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy in Westchester federal court in May."

It is sort of really depressing to see that it is alright for some people to make oodles of money on all kinds of ventures, but not alright for others.  I  mean if you are the CEO of an American company and you are doing your job well, they plan to tax you to death and put so many rules in place that your hands are tied and your profits will dry up.    The capitalist system is only allowed to work for those who have connections, it seems.

I remember watching people struggle under the clinton tax program.  Knew young families who were making nice salaries and it was all going away and not into the bank for college and not into a nice house and not into a retirement account (they weren't government workers or union guys).  so now, they want to nearly destroy these folks all over again?  The irony is, have heard one talking heard after another deride the American public for having a low rate of savings.  Well, how do you save when you know you are being taxed up the wazoo, the price of everything is high and you need to think about college for your progeny?

163 First Rig Sets Sail from the Gulf

moron association - the elves leave middle earth forever and sail to true west leaving the world of man. Once - and we will be again -  we will be true west...

164

"Please remember that the soon-to-be-reelected RINO shitbag John McCain cast the single deciding vote NOT to drill in ANWR during W's term"

But don't you understand?  We had to protect that pristine wilderness giant-mousquito-infested swamp!!!.

165 I see some people are still parroting the "quitter" line when it comes to Sarah Palin....

166 oops

167 ^{168
Meantime, hillbill is fixing to take advantage of someone's bankruptcy
And, with this story, went any notion I might ever entertain to vote for hillary.  I thought the administration was playing nice and we all should learn to play nice but the article doesn't give ya the warm and fuzzies and you kinda feel this another one of those real estate deals that really benefits the buyer, like the one in Chicago did.  "The current owner, Paul Wallace, founded the Manhattan real-estate firm Broadstone Group. The 74-year-old retiree declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy in Westchester federal court in May."}

^{Posted by: curious at July 11, 2010 03:04 PM (p302b)}

Hey that house has an artist studio, 2 guesthouses and a stable. Looks like Bill has a couple of guesthouses to keep his "interns", Hillary has an artist's studio to keep her "assistant", and Chelsea has the stable to stay in when she visits.

168 The root of my disapproval is that she is a weak candidate and easy mark for the left.  Making her a useful tool for the conservative movement rather than a Buckley-esque 'Godot'.


Are you insane?

169 On the day the Fifth Circuit ruled against, the Administration announced that if any company attempted to resume drilling it would reissue its drilling moratorium, forcing the issue back to the courts again.

This administration can't be kicked to the curb fast enough, and the process begins this upcoming November.

170 Wave to the Jobs sailing away!!!   Just another thing to Thank  Obama for!!! Im holding up one finger to all the Folks who voted for him... Can you guess which one it is?

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