1 BS...Straight BS

2 Liberals don't let facts stand in the way of their stupidity.

3 Are you ready?
(for some football)

4

Um, no. It's 21 mins and change.

Cliff's Notes?

5 Hey, that's great! What network was this on? I don't recognize the journalist. He is a journalist, isn't he? That's the kind of work they do.

6 Kid, it's what the American public doesn't know that makes them the American public.

7 A BS Misinformation study that misinforms.  Hmm..

8 Will the close of the 2010 season bring a (merciful) end to the Saints/Katrina intros on football?  Please, Lord, let it be so.

They have Drew Brees as QB, one of the most respected and liked QBs.  Why not just go with stuff about him instead of some friggin' storm from however many years ago? 

9 Meanwhile, AoS readers are the most "misinformed" about MNF. 

10 Are we still on Katrina?

11 @10
Yes.  The intro to MNF (that Gifford narrates) was all Katrina.

The only thing that keeps me interested in the Saints is Drew Brees.  I try to block out the Katrina crap. 

12 I appreciate what Fox does but every time I turn that fucking channel on they have Beckel or the retard Colmes on.

13 11 The MFM just can't let go of that meme."Minorities left at the mercy of the storm by evil,right wing Bush."

14 13 11 The MFM just can't let go of that meme."Minorities left at the mercy of the storm by evil,right wing Bush."

Yep, it was all Boosh's fault! 

15 Looks like a pretty thorough fisking to me.
 
It would be nice if the 112th Congress addressed the rationales the CBO is required to use to produce estimates. In particular, they have to use static analysis for legislative impacts. This like saying that if a business raises the price of a product, the only effect is to increase their profit margin. Somehow ignored is the loss of sales because now their competition can attract their customers away with lower prices.
 
This is the mechanism by which OBoobieCare was punched through via reconciliation.
 
Fuck you 111th.

16 Great rebuttal except for one thing. The people who need to hear this information won't bother to listen to it. As Rush always says, when Republicans start talking that "Green Eye Shade" lingo, people's eyes glaze over.

To put it simply, they stop listening. They are like Homer Simpson. You talk about anything requiring attention, and they start thinking of doughnuts.

If we want to inform the "mushy middle" we are going to have to make our arguments in some entertaining fashion. It's that simple.

17 Did you really think it was going to be an objective study. Every time I hear that conservatives are [fill in the blank with an obligatory slur], I pretty much know it has to be total bullsh!t, and ignore it.

18 I thought their SB win last year would wipe off the hurricane meme, but it's hard to let go of a good--what would you call it, a crutch, a victim stream?

19 tl;dw

20 16 Too bad we already have the male vote or we could just send Sarah out in very low cut tops and real short skirts....

21 4 Cliff Note version -- 100% of Krugmanite economists think Fox news is biased.

22 It's good.  Hell it was good when I watched it at HA this afternoon.

It's long, but good. 

23 You know what else is good? 

Football, that's what. 

24

As for FOX, I've leapt off the "Krauthammer is a genius" bandwagon, but he did have a great point this evening in the debate about whether defunding ZeroCare is the best way to go.  The Kraut says no, because the stuff contained in the bill is so egregious that he thinks the Repubs calling for hearings/the news getting out will cause an even greater public outrage than there already is (e.g., the news of the death panels being implemented by fiat). 

He also pointed out that the herky-jerky funding that's able to start the implementation will cause such a clusterfark that the dems will come out with the "See, see how those bad Republicans screwed up healthcare for all you seniors!" meme.

On the other end of the desk, Steve Hays advised aggressively defunding as well as loudly calling attention to the awful stuff that's going to come out in dribs and drabs and making the case for increased outrage.

25 NO has to keep milking the Katrina victimhood.  Otherwise, people elsewhere might notice that they're paying for a city that shouldn't be rebuilt where it is.  In fact, it never should have been where it is.  So they whine, and once in a while remind Houston what happened when a good percentage of their fine citizens came for an extended visit.

26 It's like a Left-wing network or something. Nah! *goes back to Japanese pron*

27 24 The Kraut still has some hits but his misses are getting more egregious.

28 In other breaking news, hobos smell bad, bears shit in the woods, duck's asses are watertight and bacon tastes fucking good.

29 Not sure that the truth matters to liberals. Latest poll had 70% of them thinking Jimmy Carter was a great president. Then there's global warming, Obamacare, cap and trade, Religion of Peace, Barry is a brilliant likeable guy, M'Chel does not no no no have a butt the size of a Buick. So as conservatives, we may as well starve the poor, poison the water, hate the minorities, cling to our guns, and worship at the feet of Dick Cheney. Not that we don't but no reason to pretend otherwise any more.

30 Even more fucked up.

31 definitely worth the time spent watching that.

krugman hardest hit.

32 I love the question, "Is the economy getting better?"

That's a serious question? What is "the economy"? Unemployment? Private Sector Unemployment? GDP? Trade ratios? DIJA?

I mean what the hell? Why not ask if the country is awesomer?

Oh, and please, please, please I want to see a survey of the question, "Coalition forces found WMDs in Iraq - true or false?"

33

4

Um, no. It's 21 mins and change.

Cliff's Notes?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 27, 2010 08:39 PM (5H9xB)

You can watch the first 2 minutes and get the major points of it.

34 28 In other breaking news, hobos smell bad, bears shit in the woods, duck's asses are watertight and bacon tastes fucking good.

Is this the new AoSHQ pledge of allegiance? 

I am in.

35

This whole stupid study was based on the info one would get from MSLSD.   If you believe all that shit & the shit put out by the WH on whateve, you would do well on the study.

If you got even half-ass unbiased info, and had half a brain cell you would fail their study.

So, in other words, if you are informed on the issues & not a braindead moonbat you are misinformed.

36 Hopefully Kraut wont go totally Frumsy-Buckley-Brooks on us.....

37 WTFH was that pass interference call about?  Don't think I've ever seen that in all my years of watching football.

Anyway, great video, but too long for most liberals' attention spans.  Besides, it fits their favorite meme that Fox viewers are misinformed.   Even though I get my news from other sources than Fox, all the lib I'm talking to has to hear is that I do watch Fox news and it refuse to listen to anything I have to say.

38

Posted by: RushBabe at December 27, 2010 09:03 PM (qxsyW)

Pelosi said we'll find out what's in the bill after we they pass it. Fuck them. Unfuckingbelievable.

39 37 WTFH was that pass interference call about?  Don't think I've ever seen that in all my years of watching football.

It's proof that the refs are DemocRATS.

40 Hopefully Kraut wont go totally Frumsy-Buckley-Brooks on us..... Posted by: steevy at December 27, 2010 09:10 PM (iUgb9) I heard Ebola promised him a nuclear-powered wheelchair.

41 Then there's global warming

Since global climate change is the cause of hot or cold weather, dry or wet weather, or in fact any weather event, it can't be proved false.

It is, however, no more science then the belief that a spiteful earth goddess is the cause of such events as falsifiability is a core component of science.

42 Why would you spend all that effort to make a whistle for your head?

43 Sad this thing only has a little over 5000 views. Great stuff though

44 16 Great rebuttal except for one thing. The people who need to hear this information won't bother to listen to it. As Rush always says, when Republicans start talking that "Green Eye Shade" lingo, people's eyes glaze over.

To put it simply, they stop listening. They are like Homer Simpson. You talk about anything requiring attention, and they start thinking of doughnuts.

If we want to inform the "mushy middle" we are going to have to make our arguments in some entertaining fashion. It's that simple.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 27, 2010 08:56 PM (/G5LI)

Solution: Cute xtranorml bears!

45 Damn, that was good. I am an economics/statistics geek, but damn. GJ. And that Paul Ryan. Woo, I just get tingly all over when he starts talking like he did at that health care meeting! That man has been featured in many a pforeman dream. Yummy!

46

And I continue to pound 45 slugs into their Heads. 

U no wa I takn bout

47 That guy is really, really good, but I can't believe you Rick-rolled me into watching a clip with the gag-inducing, Viagra-defeating, clam-eating Rachel Maddow. Assault with a deadly video. Bastards.

48 Excellent video.  Should be required viewing for all children in grade 12.

I'm going to go clean my rifles, chug some val-u-rite and hunt hobos.

49 This kind of shit will not end until the day that liars like the authors of the "study" face consequences for their lies. I'm not comfortable with the idea of granting government the power to adjudicate truth so long as there are enough fucking parasitic idiots in this country to elevate mister "3,000% percent reduction" to the Oval Office. A simple recognition of correcting-the-record as a sufficient defense against murder charges would be enough for me.

50 Posted by: JustME at December 27, 2010 09:36 PM (CyPWX)

WTF? 

51 Errr, cleanup on aisle 46?

52 Talk about handing someone their ass!

53 Doesn't that guy narrate for the National Inflation Association? I've heard that voice.  I find it authortative.

 But it might have a better chance at going viral if they could use "the Bernank" Bears.  Seems like full color cartoon characters might hold Rachel Maddow's audience for a wee bit longer.

54 About 6 months ago one of the cob-loggers linked to a series made in the 70s in which the narrator linked say, a drought in eqypt to in 6000 BC to the modern urban landscape or a magnetic stone through history to the nuclear bomb. I watched most of them on you tube and am now blanking on the name so I can search.

55

very good video. Try to get a liberal to sit still long enough to watch it, though. Maybe if you give him/her/it a glass or two of good wine.

Maddow is a cdunt: the Chamber of Commerce didn't offer any evidence that they DIDN'T use foreign funds. Did cduntcow offer any evidence that they did?

And some bim on Fox w Tucker Carlson a little while ago insisting that climate has been stable until recently: Carlson tried to get into this but she wouldn't tolerate any interference. Also later the dem strategist who said that climate temps have been rising for the past 150 years (no one asked him about the little ice age scare of 1975.)

56 @54 James Burke

57 56 thanks. Connections.

58 oh, and didn't the guy who did the video stop at an Exxon station one time for a fillerup and let them give him free air for his tires? Obviously paid off unless he has the receipts to prove otherwise.

59 @57 I don't know if "The Day the Universe Changed" is out there, but check that if you get a chance. The follow-up to "Connections" (can't remember if there were one or two follow-ups) sucked. "The Day the Universe Changed" was very much like "Connections" except that Burke's sciency-leftism showed through a little more. Jacob Bronowski's "Ascent of Man" is something to see, as well. I have no idea if it's available anywhere.

60 Having seen Kenneth Clark's "Civilisation" used to be enough to get you through about 4/5 of any art category on Jeopardy, but the great dumbing-down since they doubled the dollar values has put undue emphasis on impressionists. Monet. Manet. WTF? I just ask for mayonnaise.

61 Wow I made it all the way to 10:05 before my head exploded. Cookies and milk and I'll be OK

62 and there's the Tom Brady fellating...

63 This was an excellent, informative video -- and I think the guys who made it would have been better off spending their time watching porn videos and drinking beer.

The truth simply does not matter to liberals. They don't care. All they care about is that "some study says Fox viewers are the most misinformed! LOL!" It doesn't matter that the methodology behind the study was flawed. Hell, I'm a little surprised there was even a study at all. The result would be the same if you just made shit up.

Facts and truth don't matter to liberals, and fighting them with facts and truth is a waste of time. We need to play by their rules: make shit up, throw it out there, and then completely ignore all attempts to refute it.

Here, I just did a study: MSNBC viewers are 65% less likely to have a satisfying sex life than FOX viewers. I totally made that up. Now start Tweeting it around, and somebody type up a press release.

If they gather data and do a rebuttal, ignore them. From this moment until the end of time it is a known fact that MSNBC viewers have unhappy sex lives. The science is settled.

64 Football and politics. Football is for pusseys. Politics is a blood sport.Too bad the repubs never figured that out.

65 I've read somewhere that there is a study that 95% of all MSNBC viewers have no sex life.

66 LIBERALS LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

It has become a truism, nobody even listens, it's just "known" and people go on as if it weren't because it's a HUGE drag on EVERYTHING.

It's like carrying around a hobo on your back everywhere, and he throws banana peels down in your way all the time.

67 Not to worry.  The dems had the MSM and all these liberal bloggers in their back pockets for the last 2 years and got crushed anyway.  The American people have tuned them out as viable sources of real news.

They are preaching to the choir.

P.S., Along with this is Gallup's new conclusion that America finds Barack Obama to be America's Most Admired Man.  Lol, they sure as hell didn't poll anyone I know because, with the exception of one liberal girl I know (who is so hot I put up with her), everyone I have spoken to in the past year despise him.

68 Any leftist "study" of who's informed starts with "Assume leftist positions are true..."

Of course the results are nonsensical.

And I do worry because it's all wasted energy dealing with a bunch of ignorant buffoons and damned liars. There are too many of them to just ignore them, I wish we could.

69

"You can watch the first 2 minutes and get the major points of it."

Yeah, if you want to be uninforned as to what the real underlying FACTS are.

Whatever happened to due diligence, to mastery?

Sheesh.

 

70

How much work has the "pro religeon" Bloomberg staff done to help St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church  in its fight with the Port Authority to get the church rebuilt?

71 The point of the study was not to convince anyone.  The point was to play upon the general public's implicit trust of anything "scientific" in order to "prove" to people who don't have the time or level of education to question liberal methodology that liberals are always more [inset positive quality].  In other words, this kind of publication lets high school teachers and college professors camouflage their propaganda as impartial truth when they're feeding it to impressionable minds.   This is later reinforced by social pressures, primarily ridicule for questioning what has been conclusively "proven".

[cf. Climategate and other sundry examples of the Leftist belief that all truth is manufactured]

72 Thanks to whoever posted her High School photo on this blog once, whenever I see Madcow these days I think, "Wow, and she really DID used to be a girl!"

73 36 Hopefully Kraut wont go totally Frumsy-Buckley-Brooks on us.....   I dunno....rumor has it the Obamanoids have offered him a Mach3 Stealth wheel chair with universal Wi-Fi and GPS....plus a multi-million ethanol subsidy through their buddies Archer Dnaiels Midlands.   Mighty tempting.   p.s. Rachel had an addadictomy --- a botched addadictomy, it turns out --- quite some time ago.   Which explains both her androgyny and her bitterness.    

74

My kid actually brought home that POS report quite recently. A little gift from her AP government teacher in high school. I read it, and thought it was unbelievably lame. First, I spotted what they spoke of late in this clip: that Fox has never reported that Obama was Kenya-born, so listeners believing that is clearly not from Fox misinforming them.

Second, there was an item on climate change. I'm not even sure how I'd answer that myself, it's so vague! Does the climate change? Sure, I guess! But the main issue is whether there is a warming trend that has been caused by human industrial activity. There's plenty of controversy about that, so calling somebody "misinformed" if they go one way or the other is an obvious political statement. But they didn't even ask that.

Even on questions about the economy, they're kind of vague. I'd say that the economy is usually judged by the GDP, and so is modestly improving, but not everybody would. The recovery is weak, and so the big issue is unemployment, which is not only bad, but has stayed really bad for a historic duration (probably because of Obamacare).

If these guys are going to judge whether somebody is misinformed about something, it should be about something specific, and something where there is a straightforward, nonpartisan answer. So many liberals are so far off from reality that they don't even consider themselves liberal (in part because that has a bad connotation) - they just tune into NPR, read the NYT, and think they're "normal".

Oh, and never mind that the survey was done by Big Government employees, whose "facts" support the Big Government cause.

Oh, and the teacher also had a handout singing the praises of Sen. Sanders, for his principled and unwaivering stand on things. Gee, that'd be great if his principles didn't reflect the fact that he's the Senate's first-ever acknowledged socialist.

75 It was from the University of Maryland College Park. What do you expect? Nothing good comes out of UMDCP.

76

LOL - Now, be honest:

How many of you guys understood what that guy on that video was talking about? 

 Couldn't he have made his point in a simply worded phrase of  25 words, or less?

Geezez, I'm sitting here saying, what????

77

We're misinformed because we don't believe in fairy tales like AGW and "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

The truly sad part is that whenever one of the fairy tales finally collapses from a load of reality, the libtards run after the next one while putting the last one down the memory hole. Go back and ask them about the New Ice Age of the 70's. You'll get blank looks. It'll be the same with AGW and national health care in the not too distant future.

78 Academic dishonesty from "scholars" with a leftist ideology.  Would've thunk it?

The study was funded by organizations such as the Ben and JerryÂ’s Foundation, the Ploughshares Fund, the United States Institute of Peace, and the George Soros-backed Tides Foundation.  Ramsay, Kull, Lewis, and Subias are nothing more than academic whores.

79

When Joe Klein wrote the same kind of "misinformed Fox viewers" shit in Newsweek, I posted this in the comments:

http://tinyurl.com/2fdjwkz

We "misinformed" voters know enough about the damage done to our economy and national security by Obama's socialist autocracy without Fox News pointing it out. 

Obama's talking points myrmidons remind me of the old Soviet propaganda machine; spouting the virtues of communism while the proletariat stood in long lines for toilet paper.

 

80 The Ministry of Truth will be seen on MSNBC and ABC World News. If caught watching 'that other channel' you will be scooped up and taken to an intervention center for your good and the good of the world, Citizen.

81

@ 82, Brian

I'm with you there except I'm thinking, this won't be that effective a rebuttal if only 2% of the people in the country can understand what the hell he's saying.

But there's an important point here. Frequently the crap that liberal intellectualloids pull is so convoluted that the average MOR schmo can't necessarity understand the enormity of it.  So in a sense you haven't exposed anything

Or the thing you expose is so deranged you yourself come off as a nutcase by trying to expose it.

82

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