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July 13, 2010

FOX: Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC
— Purple Avenger

THE. VOICE. OF. REASON. Go ahead, try to get your head around that one. I double dare you.

OK, now that we've gotten past that bizarre and incomprehensible gibberish out of Fox, let's move onto something a tad more believable. Apparently government "scientists" are bitching about the Ogabe junta being no more responsive to their plaintive wailings about various dire things that threaten the very survival of the planet than the evil Bushitler Reich was.

...Many government scientists hailed the president's pronouncement. But a year and a half later, no such rules have been issued. Now scientists charge that the Obama administration is not doing enough to reverse a culture that they contend allowed officials to interfere with their work and limit their ability to speak out.
"We are getting complaints from government scientists now at the same rate we were during the Bush administration," said Jeffrey Ruch, an activist lawyer who heads an organization representing scientific whistle-blowers....

If you go read the whole article in the Sun, it becomes apparent that their scientific concerns aren't being "ignored" per se, rather people with higher level executive authority have weighed their "concerns" against other competing issues and made an executive decision to favor one over the other. This is precisely what we pay executive level decision makers to do - weigh competing issues and make the best decision based on available data.

The "scientists" are very upset that their narrow focused "concerns", that are oblivious to potentially larger other overriding concerns, aren't dictating policy.

TOUGH. SHIT.

Apparently there are still a small handful of adults somewhere in the lower levels of the Ogabe junta. That's something we can all be mildly encouraged by.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 07:53 AM | Comments (70)
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1 Hey, I'm socializing as fast as I can.
_{You'd think they'd be saying thank you.}

Posted by: Barry Obama at July 13, 2010 07:57 AM (qnI1X)

2 "an activist lawyer"

That explains everything. As well as the lack of credibility.

Posted by: GarandFan at July 13, 2010 07:59 AM (6mwMs)

3 a culture that they contend allowed officials to interfere with their work

Is that code for "we're not getting enough of that sweet, sweet gubbamint money"?

Posted by: Radish X at July 13, 2010 07:59 AM (M9BNu)

4 "Apparently there are still a small handful of adults somewhere in the lower levels of the Ogabe junta."

Up on the bridge of the ship of state captains come and captains go, but down in the bilge the rats remain forever.

Sometimes that's a good thing.

Posted by: Nighthawk at July 13, 2010 08:01 AM (OtQXp)

5 Hey Rachel, we can talk about your voice of reason later, but first, you will blow me!

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - eating dessert with every meal at July 13, 2010 08:01 AM (YVZlY)

6 FOX: Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC

My moonbat cousin told me that The Rachel Maddow show is one of his favorites because she is soooo well sourced and informative.

Posted by: runningrn at July 13, 2010 08:02 AM (CfmlF)

7 ...don't they know who we are?

Posted by: SurferDoc at July 13, 2010 08:02 AM (SPNcJ)

8 There are no voices of reason at MSNBC.

Posted by: czekmark at July 13, 2010 08:04 AM (iZ+eg)

9 Sigh.....I thought when Urkel was elected, nerds would finally get to rule the world. I mean, have you seen him throw a baseball?

Posted by: Legion of Concerned Scientists at July 13, 2010 08:05 AM (qnI1X)

said Jeffrey Ruch, an activist lawyer who heads an organization representing scientific whistle-blowers....

Somehow, I don't think that this organization represented the whistle blowers in the East Anglia/Penn State Climategate scandal.

Posted by: runningrn at July 13, 2010 08:05 AM (CfmlF)

11 I have a teacher friend who thinks Olberdouche and Madcow are just the greatest commentators evah! She watches nothing else except them. They provide her entire spectrum of news. Holy crap!

Posted by: Jaimo at July 13, 2010 08:08 AM (9U1OG)

12 Fox News has always tilted to the left. While true they have some conservative opinion shows like Beck the news itself is a different story.

Following the buy-in of the Saudi prince they have moved even further to the left. They actively kiss Obama's ass now.

I no longer turn them on much at all. My news now comes from the net almost exclusively.

Posted by: Vic at July 13, 2010 08:08 AM (/jbAw)

Feed Ralph Macchio a Taco and he eats for a day.

Teach him how to eat a Taco and you get Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: Stuff Jesus Said Vol. II at July 13, 2010 08:09 AM (YKjW5)

14 In relative terms, I guess The Maddow is the voice of reason in the asylum that is MSNBC -- in that she doesn't display the various forms of mental illness manifested by their other hosts. She's a lying, bigoted crapweasel...but is mostly likely more or less sane when compared to the likes of Col. Klink-Olbermann and Sgt. Schultz.

Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at July 13, 2010 08:10 AM (pLTLS)

15 FOX: Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC

Not exactly a high hurdle to clear...

Posted by: Insomniac at July 13, 2010 08:12 AM (DrWcr)

16 "..... and limit their (scientists) ability to speak out." Huh. I did not know science is based on the ability of scientists to editorialize their political opinions. I remember when facts, data and research kinda did the talking for themselves.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at July 13, 2010 08:12 AM (uKraB)

17 If you go read the whole article in the Sun, it becomes apparent that their scientific concerns aren't being "ignored" per se, rather people with higher level executive authority have weighed their "concerns" against other competing issues and made an executive decision to favor one over the other.

IOW, these clear thinkers looked at the Empty Suit's vague promises and read into them all the hopes and dreams that they held within their nerdy little hearts, and now, Reality's a bitch, and Barry banged them and didn't call in the morning.

Writ large, that's America today.

Posted by: nickless at July 13, 2010 08:13 AM (MMC8r)

18 There are no voices of reason at MSNBC.

And if there were they would beat it to death before it could reproduce.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 13, 2010 08:13 AM (xxgag)

19 "Apparently there are still a small handful of adults somewhere in the lower levels of the Ogabe junta. That's something we can all be mildly encouraged by." I believe it far more likely that actually giving a shit or actually doing something might take away time from golf and riding around in AF1.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 13, 2010 08:14 AM (xqxfC)

20 If you do not fund my giant orbiting "Death Star" project for the full 11 Quintillion dollars, global warming will kill us all.

Posted by: Concerned Government Scientist at July 13, 2010 08:15 AM (7BU4a)

I would like to say, for the record, that I sound nothing like Rachel Maddow in real life.

That is all.

Posted by: reason at July 13, 2010 08:15 AM (+hPIb)

Even the "conservatives" on MSNBC are either insane or douchebags.

I think Willie Geist is probably the closest thing they have to someone that is sane.

Also, lets not let Fox get off, i want to say 70 percent of their hosts are stupid idiots.

All the morning people, shep smith, geraldo, huckabee, and in my mind OReilly and Hannity.

Posted by: Ben at July 13, 2010 08:16 AM (wuv1c)

23 I remember when facts, data and research kinda did the talking for themselves.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at July 13, 2010 12:12 PM (uKraB)

Yeah you just want my data to find faults with it.

Posted by: Phil Jones at July 13, 2010 08:16 AM (7BU4a)

24 FOX: Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC That's like saying Moe was the smartest Stooge.

Posted by: FreakyBoy at July 13, 2010 08:16 AM (uKraB)

25 Reason has been rather unreasonable lately. I don't know where I am.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at July 13, 2010 08:18 AM (HaYO4)

26 If you do not fund my giant orbiting "Death Star" project investigation into the sex lives of transgender praying mantises in East Timor for the full 11 Quintillion dollars, global warming will kill us all.

FIFY.

Posted by: Radish X at July 13, 2010 08:18 AM (M9BNu)

27 And they say that I'm frumpy!

Posted by: Susan Boyle at July 13, 2010 08:18 AM (S8TF5)

28 Is that code for "we're not getting enough of that sweet, sweet gubbamint money"?

Posted by: Radish X at July 13, 2010 11:59 AM (M9BNu)

Well, I am still upset that some meddling bureaucrat refused to pay for my very important study of the effects of toplessness on Caribbean beach goers.

Come on people, this is SCIENCE.

Posted by: Concerned Government Scientist at July 13, 2010 08:19 AM (7BU4a)

29 When one clicks through to the Baltosun page, one sees a picture of John Holdren.

That says all that needs to be said, there's no reason to read the article.

Posted by: mrkwong at July 13, 2010 08:21 AM (G8Eo0)

30
FOX: Squeaky Fromme was the voice of reason in the Manson Family.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at July 13, 2010 08:22 AM (Oxen1)

"Not exactly a high hurdle to clear..."

I would imagine that being an actual Voice of Reason at MSNBC would be a very delicate act of counterbalancing actual reason and logic against being looney enough to keep your show on the air. People don't turn on MSNBC to get some knowledge dropped on them. They turn it on because it was a hard day of battling reality, and they need a warm blankey of progressive reassurance to cuddle up with.

Posted by: reason at July 13, 2010 08:22 AM (+hPIb)

Oh, the irony:

Michelle Obama today used her first visit to the Gulf coast devastated by the BP oil spill to urge Americans to support the local economy by spending their summer holidays there.

And let's see, where are you, Barry and the fat kids spending your upcoming vacation?

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - eating dessert with every meal at July 13, 2010 08:22 AM (YVZlY)

33 Apparently government "scientists" are bitching about the Ogabe junta being no more responsive to their plaintive wailings about various dire things that threaten the very survival of the planet than the evil Bushitler Reich was.

So, what about all the dire stuff that was going to kill us under Reagan, Bush 41, and Clinton? Are we going to give these concerned government scientists the funding they NEED to save us from an apocalypse that will kill us all in 1988, uh, 1992, uh 2000?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 13, 2010 08:22 AM (7BU4a)

"There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it."

Wouldn't that make tucking them a little itchy?

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at July 13, 2010 08:24 AM (HaYO4)

35 <i>Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC</i>

That's it. That guy is so fired!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at July 13, 2010 08:24 AM (EW49d)

Well, I am still upset that some meddling bureaucrat refused to pay for my very important study of the effects of toplessness on Caribbean beach goers.

Come on people, this is SCIENCE.

Posted by: Concerned Government Scientist

C'mon back when you've gradutated to Concerned Christian Conservative Governtment Scientist

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 13, 2010 08:24 AM (R2fpr)

Shut up and science.

Scientize??

Posted by: Mama AJ at July 13, 2010 08:25 AM (XdlcF)

38 I don't watch Maddow so I have no idea if he is reasonable or not. Kind of effeminate looking for a guy, though.

Posted by: real joe at July 13, 2010 08:25 AM (IpIBJ)

39 I learned HTML at Cornell!

Suck that, Bitches!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at July 13, 2010 08:25 AM (EW49d)

"Radish X"

Whoa. When did Heather go paramilitary?

You'se gonna have to kill some peach trees!
You'se gonna have to kill they droupes!
Let us get our act together.

Posted by: reason at July 13, 2010 08:27 AM (+hPIb)

41 Speaking out for the Bible and Creationism.

Posted by: denny crane at July 13, 2010 08:28 AM (I+7Zv)

42 Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC Oh, I agree completely. She totally beats the pants off the Nazis at Fox News. What up!?

Posted by: Michael Steele at July 13, 2010 08:30 AM (9mgCh)

43 FOX: Rachel Maddow is "Voice Of Reason" at MSNBC

Well, she does wear sensible shoes...

Posted by: runningrn at July 13, 2010 08:30 AM (CfmlF)

"HTML"

How To Make Lunch.

Who'se up for sammiches?

Posted by: Magna Cum Lunchie Cornell Grad at July 13, 2010 08:31 AM (+hPIb)

45 This just in, Rahm Emmanual is the "Voice of Reason" at the White House.

Posted by: FocNews at July 13, 2010 08:31 AM (EW49d)

"That's it. That guy is so fired!"

You know I wear the pants in our relationship, TeleTubbie...

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at July 13, 2010 08:32 AM (+hPIb)

47 Hatin' That Maddow Lad!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at July 13, 2010 08:32 AM (EW49d)

48 We're sane.

Posted by: Mika Brzenzkis's sweater cows at July 13, 2010 08:32 AM (R4rMI)

49 FocNews??

Posted by: FocNews? at July 13, 2010 08:32 AM (EW49d)

50 Rahm Emmanual is the "Voice of Reason" at the White House.

They're starting up the bus for him right about now too...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 13, 2010 08:33 AM (/kqq/)

51 I vote for a "Draw the perv in drag" day, myself.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 13, 2010 08:36 AM (xqxfC)

52 That cartoon is awesome.

Posted by: logprof at July 13, 2010 08:37 AM (BP6Z1)

53 People don't get it. Obama's agenda - his sole agenda - is destroying capitalism. If the climate folks fit into that agenda, fine - but he doesn't give a rip about the climate. If he can get the main job done faster by passing other things (like HealthCare), then that's going to be his priority. But if these people can just hold on 'til the Lame Duck session - they may get their piece of the pie.

Posted by: Roger at July 13, 2010 08:38 AM (tAwhy)

54 Maddow sort of is the voice of reason over there.

After all, in the land of the blind, I'm king!

Posted by: A One Eyed Man at July 13, 2010 08:39 AM (X/Lqh)

55 I+7Zv, I'll consider commenting on that, but first you will blow me.

Posted by: Zimriel at July 13, 2010 08:41 AM (9Sbz+)

Rachel Maddow? Yowza! She's going in the Spank Bank!

fap, fap, fap

Posted by: Stupid Typical Lefty Dorkbag at July 13, 2010 08:43 AM (/106s)

57 Posted by: denny crane at July 13, 2010 12:28 PM (I+7Zv)

Dude, I'm not paying if you're just going to phone it in like that.

Posted by: Axelrod at July 13, 2010 08:47 AM (Vr0Zv)

58 Don't these scientists know that their main focus should be on reaching out to the Muslim community?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 13, 2010 08:47 AM (1Jaio)

59 Rachel Maddow is reasonably good looking for a gal that donates to the local sperm bank.

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 13, 2010 08:53 AM (Iaxlk)

60 There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum

Indeed.

Posted by: pudding cups at July 13, 2010 08:55 AM (4WbTI)

61 61 We're sane.

Posted by: Mika Brzenzkis's sweater cows at July 13, 2010 12:32 PM (R4rMI)

You're my soulmates!!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at July 13, 2010 08:58 AM (Iaxlk)

69 There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum

Yeah, especially when you pick it up off the floor...

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 13, 2010 08:59 AM (Iaxlk)

63 It depends on your meaning of the word "reason" is.

Posted by: Bill "Dictionary" Clinton at July 13, 2010 09:02 AM (T0NGe)

64 Out of respect for her Red Sox loyalties I will not bash her at this time...

Posted by: little boomer at July 13, 2010 09:11 AM (FHBgU)

65 Oh great. When MSNBC folds, just watch Fox give her a home. Cupp and Maddow or some damn thing.

Posted by: arhooley at July 13, 2010 09:18 AM (6GjHP)

Also, lets not let Fox get off, i want to say 70 percent of their hosts are stupid idiots.

All the morning people, shep smith, geraldo, huckabee, and in my mind OReilly and Hannity.

Posted by: Ben at July 13, 2010 12:16 PM (wuv1c)

----------------------------------
Bret Baier and Greta van Susteren are the only ones I like. I wish I didn't have to wade through segments of O'Reilly to get to Dennis Miller.

Posted by: arhooley at July 13, 2010 09:21 AM (6GjHP)

67 The half inch penised thick-necked indeterminant creature of Reason

Posted by: TexasJew in Israel at July 13, 2010 09:25 AM (mY03/)

68 She makes Michael Chiklis look like Liberace.

Posted by: TexasJew in Israel at July 13, 2010 09:29 AM (mY03/)

Well, I guess mature ejaculation study is now defunct. This has been my lifes work since sophmore year in high school.

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 13, 2010 09:40 AM (2BtFQ)

70 ACE: I think you got it wrong - this article is not from FOX but the WSJ-Marketwatch -Friedman is one of their leftist reporters.

Posted by: hstad at July 13, 2010 02:09 PM (e0+7F)

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