February 19, 2010

Frank Lautenberg Diagnosed With Stomach Cancer
— Ace

50% of those so diagnosed respond well to treatment, but Frank Lautenberg is 86. I know nothing about chemo personally, fortunately, but of course I know it is hellishly tough on anyone unfortunate enough to need it, including the very young and strong.

Allah adds:

Something worth flagging in case Lautenberg opts for early retirement: New Jersey Democrats introduced a bill in the state legislature back in November, almost certainly with him in mind, to replace special elections for vacant U.S. Senate seats with a rule that would let the governor appoint a successor. With one catch — the governor could only appoint someone from the same party as the outgoing senator. Obviously, that’s a response to Chris Christie’s gubernatorial win, with state Dems worried that in this political climate a special election would be no automatic win even in a state as blue as Jersey. Their fears proved well founded two months later in Massachusetts; I wonder what’ll happen to that bill in light of today’s news.

Well I expect a full-court press on the issue with the bizarre claim offered up by Democrats that anyone refusing to vote in favor of (or sign into law) the bill is "politicizing cancer" or some nonsense, conveniently overlooking the fact that's exactly what the bill itself intends to accomplish.

I can't believe that just a few months after the end of the "Kennedy Seat" Democrats are now gearing up to tell us there's such a thing as the "Frank Lautenberg Seat," and that we are harming Frank Lautenberg's health if we do not pass a law that passes his seat into the hands of a hand-picked successor.

We'll be undoing his legacy. Or something.

What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?

Again: Look, no one really wants to act all super-psyched that another human being has become unwell. But obviously this is on the Democrats' mind, too. (Lautenberg has been mentioned as having "health issues" in the past, because, you know, he's 86.)

We cannot pretend we are uninterested in contingency planning out of respect for Frank Lautenberg's great legacy (whatever that is) while the Democrats are cooking up Frank Lautenberg Succession Bills.


Posted by: Ace at 09:25 AM | Comments (176)
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1 I hope he recovers. I also hope that Christie tells the Democrats to pound sand.

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:27 AM (tTj19)

2
Dead man munching!

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 09:27 AM (M5t+h)

3 I like his prognosis

Posted by: Cha5rlie Gibson at February 19, 2010 09:27 AM (8zQxF)

4 Democrats have all the consistency of an Alan Partridge Zombie.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at February 19, 2010 09:28 AM (yUybe)

5

It all depends on how deeply it penetrated the stomach wall.  If its shallow  may be okay if its through the stomach wall  then the prognosis is much much worse.

Posted by: joe at February 19, 2010 09:28 AM (rf1Kd)

6 Any word on whether or not that Bill got signed into law?

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:29 AM (tTj19)

7 I am going to open a Palm reading stand next Thursday -- free readings to morons.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2010 09:29 AM (7K04W)

8 That NJ law is silly. Ted Nugent could buy a house in AC, register as Democrat or Christie could appoint someone to the right of Zell Miller who happens to be a Dem.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2010 09:31 AM (7K04W)

9
If the cancer doesn't get him it will be the therapy, or if not the chemotherapy, it will be Bush's fault. Bank on it!

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 09:32 AM (M5t+h)

10 Well, nuts.

Posted by: Bob Toricelli at February 19, 2010 09:32 AM (Xsi7M)

11 What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?

Being the poster child for last minute Democrat substitutions when previously selected candidates suddenly look unelectable?

Posted by: some wench at February 19, 2010 09:32 AM (uJBct)

12 There is a special  fiery hell reserved for verdammt douche holsters.  cheers you douche holster.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at February 19, 2010 09:32 AM (8zQxF)

13 Frank had better hope biologist Dr. Amy Bishop isn't a consultant on the hospital staff.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 19, 2010 09:33 AM (AZGON)

14
...the governor could only appoint someone from the same party as the outgoing senator.

THIS. IS. BULLSHIT.

Is this challengable in court? Here's my argument: the legislature is making laws that encroach on the executive's powers.

What's to stop the NJ legislature from passing a law stating the governor can only appoint members of the Democrat party to his cabinet? Because that's the essence of their newly passed law -- only allowing the governor to appoint a Democrat.



Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:33 AM (jVldi)

15 Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with?

Posted by: Salem at February 19, 2010 09:34 AM (86rbG)

16

I'll tell you what his legacy is.  The Lautenberg amendment.

It made anyone who had a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction inelligible to possess a firearm.

Which had this effect:  Anyone in the police or armed forces who had one of these convictions immediately became inelligible to possess a governement owned firearm in the line of duty.

They thus became unemployable and lost their jobs as police or armed forces members.

Damn that man.

Posted by: Ed at February 19, 2010 09:35 AM (OCfDT)

17 @8

haha, the ultimate head-fake. Appoint a DINO and let him change parties afterward.

"I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left ME."

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:35 AM (tTj19)

18
Ted Nugent could buy a house in AC, register as Democrat...

That would be fanfuckingtastic! I'd love to see their new whimsical law shoved up their asses, like that.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:35 AM (jVldi)

19

IIRC, one of the Republican Senators from Wyoming recently died, and the Democrat Governor was forced (by law) to appoint a successor from the same party.

If the Wyoming type of law is already on the books in NJ, then we have to follow it. If not, then Christie should tell the Dems to get bent with a razorblade.

Posted by: eddiebear at February 19, 2010 09:35 AM (wnU1W)

20 There's a trend here somewhere. Old.  Bitter. Clingers.  Bile.  Catches dead Ted & Murtha. 

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 19, 2010 09:36 AM (ucq49)

21
Miss Cleo of Psychic Friends Network just spoke and said Frank Lautenberg has a one in five chance of survival, but if he sends her a check for $1000, his odds will improve to even money for survival. 

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 09:37 AM (M5t+h)

22 i hear jon corzine is available

Posted by: newrouter at February 19, 2010 09:37 AM (bEZJ+)

23 >>6 Any word on whether or not that Bill got signed into law? Didn't yet.

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:37 AM (jlvw3)

24 oohh I just realized I got a First!...heh.

Virgin no more!

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:37 AM (tTj19)

25

Sort of OT: I saw a news-crawl that said Alexander Haig has been taken to hospital. (But didn't say with what.)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 09:38 AM (2qU2d)

26

If need be, appoint the most unelectable Dem imaginable.

 

Would it be in bad taste to bring up ObamaCare and say things along the line of hey he is 86, maybe he should just take a pain pill or something?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at February 19, 2010 09:38 AM (C2//T)

27 The prognosis depends on the type of lymphoma.

Prognosis for diffuse large B cell lymphoma is poor.   That's probably what he's got.

Prognosis for gastric extranodal marginal zone lymphoma is excellent, and he could make a complete recovery.

Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2010 09:38 AM (PwGfd)

28

"Frank had better hope biologist Dr. Amy Bishop isn't a consultant on the hospital staff."

I heard a rumor that Stack developed the diagnostic software.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 19, 2010 09:39 AM (ucq49)

29 That NJ succession law has to be unconstitutional.  If Lautenberg retires, Christie should appoint a Republican and dare the lege to challenge him.  Go eyeball to eyeball with them and force the Dems to support that idiotic law.  He'll win public opinion and he'll win in court if it gets that far.

Posted by: Alan Smithee at February 19, 2010 09:39 AM (F7GbV)

30 Prayers for Senator Lautenberg and his family.  I hope he recovers and retires in good health, so that we can take his seat away gracefully.

Posted by: GulfCoastTider at February 19, 2010 09:40 AM (ClZ5D)

31 Frank Lautenberg's legacy was retaining control of the Senate in 2002 which would have been lost had Bob Toricelli run.   Fortunately, oh, wait....

Posted by: Wide-eyed moonbat at February 19, 2010 09:40 AM (Xsi7M)

32 >>>That NJ law is silly. Ted Nugent could buy a house in AC, register as Democrat or Christie could appoint someone to the right of Zell Miller who happens to be a Dem. Yeah but I'm guessing that's not the way it's written. THe Democrats probably get to nominate a slate of four or five acceptable choices and then Christie gets to pick from them.

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:40 AM (jlvw3)

33 The NJ Dems are already playing games, introducing a bill allowing the Governor to pick a successor Senator. . .only from the same political party as the outgoing Senator!

If that piece of s@$t passes (and it probably won't), Christie should pick his favorite Republican hack. . .after having the guy switch parties!

 

Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (PwGfd)

34 I heard Ace is selling the site to The Mustang Ranch.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (muUqs)

35 I hope he retires, gets better, and lives a long life in exile on Elba Island.  I don't wih painful cancer death on anyone.  Except Canadians.

Posted by: Truman North at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (e8YaH)

36

Something worth flagging in case Lautenberg opts for early retirement

86 years old is early retirement?? Allah, please!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (ERJIu)

37 #26

Now, now.  You know the  way this works. Obama care for thee, but not for me.

Posted by: some wench at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (uJBct)

38
Obama just called me and said he's gonna ol' Frank the 'blue' pill to ease his pain and suffering.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:42 AM (jVldi)

39 >>> That NJ succession law has to be unconstitutional. If Lautenberg retires, Christie should appoint a Republican and dare the lege to challenge him. 1., it's not a law but a bill, and 2, why would it be unconstitutional? Let's not be liberals and toss out the word "unconstitutional" as a stupid synonym for "a law that's against my political interest."

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:42 AM (jlvw3)

40 Thanks Ace. I figured The last Governor (Corzine?) probably signed it before he got the boot or something.

Well screw them NJ democrats then. Christie has no reason to sign that bill. Let the house over-ride his veto if they can. NJ elected Christie, and elections have consequences.

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:42 AM (tTj19)

41 What the fuck is an 86 year old man doing in Congress? Or the Supreme Court? If we can't get term limits, then put a lifeclock on these assholes. Retire or the Sandman comes for your ass.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 19, 2010 09:42 AM (40kuC)

42 34 I heard Ace is selling the site to The Mustang Ranch. Keep it on the q.t. I might be able to hook you up with a free hand-jay.

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:42 AM (jlvw3)

43

15 Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report



Better comments

Posted by: s'moron at February 19, 2010 09:43 AM (UaxA0)

44

Simple solution

1) Get a conservative to claim to be a Democrat

2) Appoint Him

3) After taking office, he switches parties.

What are we, the party of Duuhhhh ??

Posted by: Cromagnum at February 19, 2010 09:43 AM (QZFcc)

45 >>6 Any word on whether or not that Bill got signed into law? Didn't yet. 1. Veto bill. 2. Call special election. At least then a Republican will have a shot, and even if the Republican loses, the seat will be empty for a spell.

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 09:43 AM (RD7QR)

46 >>>Thanks Ace. I figured The last Governor (Corzine?) probably signed it before he got the boot or something. Not sure why they didn't. That's what they should have done and routinely would have done. Maybe Republicans have enough seats in one house to do a filibuster-sort of thing and keep it from coming to a vote.

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:44 AM (jlvw3)

47 I knew a 16 year old who was diagnosed with stomach cancer; didn't make it to 17. Can't be much better for someone who is 86.

Posted by: Jean at February 19, 2010 09:44 AM (/8Gs3)

48 Dick Cheney was born with stomach cancer, it's what keeps him alive. That and the murders.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 19, 2010 09:45 AM (muUqs)

49 @34 I heard Ace is selling the site to The Mustang Ranch.

Nah, they are exercising a lien becuase of "monies owed for services"

Posted by: Mike H at February 19, 2010 09:45 AM (LdYLm)

50 I think what Christie "should" do is take the moral high ground and insist on a special election.

That would still probably result in a Democrat win (after all, it is NJ we're talking about here), but that way at least the electorate has a say.


Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2010 09:45 AM (PwGfd)

51 >>>Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with? Hey why don't you suck my dick?

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 09:45 AM (jlvw3)

52

Virgin no more!

Doubt it.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 09:46 AM (fx8sm)

53
Well, it's not unconstitutional, but it's un-American in the sense it betrays our Founder's vision and design for separation of powers in the Federal government.

But this is NJ, and I suppose it's their prerogative to see how powers are divided in their govt.


Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:46 AM (jVldi)

54

Crimeny.  86.  Gotta hand it to these guys that keep working to an age like that.  Chemo at any age is hell -- but it's it's even tougher on the elderly who have so few good years left anyway.  Of course if he lives to 100 in good health after chemo, feeling rotten for a few months might be worth it.

Makes me wonder -- what's the average age of the Democrats vs Republicans in congress?  Seems like the Dems have a bunch of oldsters.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at February 19, 2010 09:46 AM (SgSfB)

55

Hey why don't you suck my dick?

Posted by: ace at February 19, 2010 01:45 PM (jlvw3)

Yea, suck it bitch!

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 09:47 AM (M5t+h)

56 OT

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

Why are teh stupid ones teh hawt ones?!  You'd think stupid would have died out long ago no matter what...

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at February 19, 2010 09:47 AM (8zQxF)

57
Crimeny.  86.  Gotta hand it to these guys that keep working to an age like that. 

Actually at that age you have to wonder if the guy is even lucid, or a shambling idiot like Sheets Byrd.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 09:47 AM (fx8sm)

58 I know it would be terrible for the country, but some small part of me wants to see Christie, if forced to appoint a Dem, pick Torricelli.

Posted by: Rick at February 19, 2010 09:48 AM (L/O45)

59

#54 Makes me wonder -- what's the average age of the Democrats vs Republicans in congress?  Seems like the Dems have a bunch of oldsters.

They wouldn't look so old if I was still around.

Posted by: Strom Thurmond at February 19, 2010 09:48 AM (9hSKh)

60


2, why would it be unconstitutional?

Well, for one, the Legislature is deciding who is their political representative in the senate.  I think there's something called Amendment XVII

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

It doe not say that the legislature may restrict the power of the executive to select senators.

The separation of powers argument is strong here.

Posted by: s'moron at February 19, 2010 09:49 AM (UaxA0)

61 After Ace sells to the Mustang Ranch, it's free teabagging for all the top commenters.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at February 19, 2010 09:49 AM (muUqs)

62
OT

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

==========================

FAIL!

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:50 AM (jVldi)

63 58

I want him to pick any member of the Nets.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 19, 2010 09:50 AM (vVM8h)

64 What the fuck is an 86 year old man doing in Congress?

Exactly what his asshat voters told him to do, I'm guessin'.

We have met the enemy . . .

Posted by: arhooley at February 19, 2010 09:50 AM (DVFUM)

65

OT: But the same political bullshit.

Rep. Joe Sestak (D., Pa.) said yesterday that the White House offered him a federal job in an effort to dissuade him from challenging Sen. Arlen Specter in the state's Democratic primary

Posted by: conscious and on a jihad against the democrats at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (Vu6sl)

66

Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with?

Meh, I used to love Hot Air, but the posters there get on my nerves.  The morons here are more intelligent and a damn sight funnier.

Posted by: jewells at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (l/N7H)

67 More premature chicken counting. . .

I just checked and prognosis for primary gastric diffuse large B cell lymphoma isn't nearly as poor as I thought.

5-year survival can be as high as 65-75%, depending on case series.

Now, at 86 years old, Lautenberg well may not be the "average" case, and I don't know what else may be medically wrong with him that may complicate things, but there is probably a reasonably good chance he'll live at least a few more years.




Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (PwGfd)

68 Hey why don't you suck my dick?

Save it for the Mustang Ranch.

Posted by: taylork at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (0Hn5w)

69 Obama just called me and said he's gonna ol' Frank the 'blue' pill to ease his pain and suffering.

Heh.  The political manoeuvrings to make sure the seat stays D don't really interest me, since I expect them to be scumbags and they never disappoint, but I do look forward to the "right[dic] to die" crowd ignoring Frank completely instead of pointing out that the most "efficient" and "fair" use of our scant medical resources and Medicare dollars would be to tell an 86-year-old man with stomach cancer to go home and die to allow transsexual teenagers a chance to live sans-Adam's Apple...because he's a party apparatchik, and "fair" means no expense will be spared unless he requests to die...in which case the state will pay for his morphine overdose with dignity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 19, 2010 09:52 AM (mR7mk)

70

Ayeuh'm pra-oud tuh unnunce muh nom-e-nation fur duh off-y-us of duh Senatuh fur duh gray-ut State ov New-ah Joisey! I'm-uh gonna be-uh Boss of alla youse!

Posted by: Bruce Springsteen at February 19, 2010 09:52 AM (ERJIu)

71 10 Well, nuts.

Posted by: Bob Toricelli at February 19, 2010 01:32 PM (Xsi7M)

You rang??

Posted by: J McGreevy at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (pr+up)

72 ace, I think the cry of unconstitutional was with regard to the legislature stepping on the executive branch's prerogative.  Which isn't just kneejerk, but wrong.  From wikipedia's article on the 17th amendment:

When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

If the legislature of a state can give the Governor authority to make a replacement appointment, they can probably take it away, too.  Unless there's something specific in NJ preventing the action, which should be cited.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (Xsi7M)

73
Matt Damon just called me and said...

Do the actuary tables! I'm Matt Damon! I don't know what I'm talking about! Matt Damon!

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (jVldi)

74 @51 >>>Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with?

Hey why don't you suck my dick?

Here's to you, Salem











Sucking my dick

Posted by: Ford Fairlane at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (LdYLm)

75 Not sure why they didn't. That's what they should have done and routinely would have done.


It sorta resembles the own-goal that the democrats did to themselves up here in MA that ended up with Scott Brown getting elected.

Democrats took power away from the governor (Romney) to appoint a senator in 2004 in case horse-face, I mean Kerry won the presidential election.

They scrambled to repeal it after Kennedy died, which did not please the voters of Massachucetts one bit. They did repeal it, and the democrat that was appointed voted for everything Obama wanted.

We elected Scott Brown in response.  Deval Patrick is next, most likely.



Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (tTj19)

76 Does this bill have any requirement for how long a successor has been a member of the exiting Senator's party?  I mean, could a Republican simply register as a Democrat, get appointed Senator, and then switch right back to Republican?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 19, 2010 09:53 AM (b68Df)

77

"Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with?"

Dude, don't be a dick.  First of all, Allahpundit and ace are buddies from a long time back.  They both went to see Brokeback Mountain together.  But not in a gay way.  They had a chick named Karol sit between them.  Cuz that's just how they roll...

Second, their politics are pretty similar.  You start pissing on AP, and you are probably going to be hitting ace with the splatter.  Not cool.

Posted by: Ed at February 19, 2010 09:54 AM (OCfDT)

78 i posted something on Hot Air a little while ago...not that bad. It was deleted. Pussy Allah.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 19, 2010 09:55 AM (wtdUn)

79 Matt Damon. MMMMAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT DDDDDAAAAAMMMMMOOOOONNNNN

Posted by: Matt Damon at February 19, 2010 09:55 AM (LdYLm)

80 Maybe Christie could nominate Ray Liotta.  He rocked in Goodfellas and thinks politicians are "ugly."


Posted by: GulfCoastTider at February 19, 2010 09:55 AM (ClZ5D)

81 I'm thinking Senator Johnny Weir.

At least life would be...interesting.

Posted by: mpfs at February 19, 2010 09:55 AM (iYbLN)

82

Hell, the way he got in office was a deceitful and scummy way to begin with.  The Demoncraps have proved over and over again, if there is a way to game the system or outright cheat their way into office they will do it.

What really pissed me off was the way the NJ Supreme Court let them get away with it. I would have liked to see the SCOTUS get involved with it and straigten them out. I guess Kennedy came down on the left that time.

I look for the same type of crap to go down this time from the NJ legislature. Maybe the governor will be able to block it though. All she has to do is keep vetoing the legislation until the special election is over.

Posted by: Vic at February 19, 2010 09:56 AM (QrA9E)

83
Like I said, what's to stop the legislature from passing any law dictating what the governor can and cannot do?

The New Jersey Supreme Court might have an issue with this, too, because what's to stop the legislature from usurping the Court's powers, too?

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:56 AM (jVldi)

84

What the fuck is an 86 year old man doing in Congress? Or the Supreme Court? If we can't get term limits, then put a lifeclock on these assholes. Retire or the Sandman comes for your ass.

What's worse is that he wants to run for reelection.

I don't care if you're on our side or theirs...this shit is getting ridiculous. Get the fuck outta there! You do not need to be in public office when you're 90 fucking years old.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 09:56 AM (P33XN)

85 No one should be in the U.S. Senate at age 86.  And yes, I include Strom Thrumond in that retroactively.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2010 09:56 AM (B+qrE)

86

"What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?"

I seem to recall a train station off the side of the freeway or "turnpike" as I drive Newark to NYC no? 

Posted by: California Red at February 19, 2010 09:57 AM (IpT4E)

87 Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Posted by: Truman North at February 19, 2010 09:57 AM (e8YaH)

88 I'm thinking Senator Johnny Weir.

Probably not old enough. But hey, he did a decent enough job at pissing off liberals for wearing fur and then telling them to fuck off.

Posted by: taylork at February 19, 2010 09:57 AM (0Hn5w)

89 What to do about Sen. Sheets?  Jeez, he is already halfway embalmed.

Posted by: mpfs at February 19, 2010 09:58 AM (iYbLN)

90 Virgin no more!

Doubt it.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 01:46 PM (fx8sm)


See, now you are just being mean.

Posted by: Mord at February 19, 2010 09:58 AM (tTj19)

91 s'moron at 60 has exactly the same cite as me, and comes to the opposite conclusion.  My thinking is that the term 'may' implies that the state legislature could choose to not so empower the Governor.  And if it can make that choice initially (which would seem to me to be the default) but change it's mind later to so empower the Governor, it can also change its mind back.

But that's my reading in english.  In legaleze maybe you have to specifically allow the reversal of the decision.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2010 09:59 AM (Xsi7M)

92
Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Edit that shit!

Just like I edit Chris Matthews' wiki page, once in a while.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:59 AM (jVldi)

93 He's exceeded his usefulness according to my cost benefit analysis. Looks like morphine and end of life counseling for Frank!

Posted by: Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel at February 19, 2010 09:59 AM (iV4X6)

94 Get well soon Senator...

Posted by: Happy Dale Funeral Home at February 19, 2010 09:59 AM (iYbLN)

95 How about Senator Tom Davis. Then me an Al could re-unite and do "Franken & Davis"?

C'mon, Chris!

Posted by: Tom Davis at February 19, 2010 10:00 AM (LdYLm)

96 I'd like to nominate Trump's toupee - smarter and classier than the best NJ Dim.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 19, 2010 10:01 AM (ucq49)

97

Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Let me guess, Democratic Underground is a "moderate discussion forum."

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2010 10:01 AM (B+qrE)

98 Hey Vinnie! Go steal some flowers! I gotta send some to my ol' pal Frank!

Posted by: Tony Soprano at February 19, 2010 10:01 AM (ERJIu)

99 Has this been blamed on Bush yet?

Posted by: L Nettles at February 19, 2010 10:01 AM (V4Pya)

100

#51, fuck yeah! Yub yub, man, rock out with that Ewok cock out.

Personally I hope Lautenberg has to sit on a bureaucrat's waiting list and linger the way the Democrat's government rationing scheme would do to us. Let some of these Congresscritters who consider themselves a perpetual elected aristocracy see what the fuck it's like to be powerless and without options.

Posted by: SGT Dan at February 19, 2010 10:01 AM (GgXZc)

101 Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Yay!

I mean...  arrggg!

Posted by: GulfCoastTider at February 19, 2010 10:02 AM (ClZ5D)

102 So get the most conservative guy you can find to go down and register as a democrat, then appoint him. He can always "go Arlen" later. Talk about stupid...

Posted by: Penn State Marine at February 19, 2010 10:02 AM (8KFCG)

103 @97 I'd like to nominate Trump's toupee - smarter and classier than the best NJ Dim.

Wherever the Toup goes, then the Donald goes....

Posted by: The Donald at February 19, 2010 10:02 AM (LdYLm)

104

Frank's legacy?
Ayone who ever got a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt?
Yep, Ol' Frank was the sponsor/author of Click it or Ticket.

Thanks Frank!!!!!

 

Posted by: NJ MIke at February 19, 2010 10:03 AM (9cbLf)

105
The Donald has a very small dick.

Posted by: Ivana the Dish at February 19, 2010 10:03 AM (M5t+h)

106 We had a county treasurer who was in office for decades. And he was older than dirt. I went in to pay for plates one time and he was just propped up behind a desk. He looked totally out of it. I thought I saw him drooling. People would walk over to his desk and say or do something and he wouldn't even acknowledge them. He just sat there staring into space. Pathetic.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 10:03 AM (P33XN)

107 Sen. Snooki (D-Jersey Shore)

Posted by: mpfs at February 19, 2010 10:04 AM (iYbLN)

108 #92

I think that's right.   A State legislature "may" empower a Governor to pick a successor, they "may" not, and they likely have the right to change the policy as they see fit.

Note that reversing the policy on filling Senate vacancies isn't necessarily smart politics or "fair", but I think its legal.

Also, I do *NOT* see how the legislature can require that the Governor appoint a particular individual or a member of a particular political party.  That requirement defeats the purpose of giving the power to the Governor.   IE, the Governor should either have the power to choose a replacement Senator or not.   If he can't specify the replacement of his choice, then he doesn't have the power, does he?




Posted by: looking closely at February 19, 2010 10:05 AM (6Q9g2)

109
I dated Frank Lautenberg when we were both youngsters in the 1920's.

Posted by: Helen Baklava Thomas at February 19, 2010 10:06 AM (M5t+h)

110

"77 Does this bill have any requirement for how long a successor has been a member of the exiting Senator's party?  I mean, could a Republican simply register as a Democrat, get appointed Senator, and then switch right back to Republican?"

I would think that that would tend to piss off ind voters concerned with fairness and following the law. It isn't so critical a seat, esp with elections in Nov as to want to be seen as the dirty tricksters (I know, I know, double standard.).

Posted by: Randy at February 19, 2010 10:06 AM (zQKSr)

111 Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Um, yay? 

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2010 10:06 AM (Xsi7M)

112 Makes me wonder -- what's the average age of the Democrats vs Republicans in congress?  Seems like the Dems have a bunch of oldsters.

According to Geraghty at NRO:

There are 29 House Democrats age 70 or older, and another 39 are between 64 and 69.

Don't know about the Republicans.


Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 10:08 AM (aVzyR)

113

Before I became a flaming American faggot, I dated Frank Lautenberg in private.

Posted by: James "The Guv" McGreevey at February 19, 2010 10:08 AM (M5t+h)

114

I don't wih painful cancer death on anyone.  Except Canadians.

8=^(

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 10:09 AM (2qU2d)

115 My Lorena emancipated member had more intelligence, integrity, morals, and life than NJ's best of the best's party of corruption.

Posted by: J Babbitt at February 19, 2010 10:09 AM (ucq49)

116

There are 29 House Democrats age 70 or older, and another 39 are between 64 and 69.
But they're just a heartbeat away from death! This cannot be allowed to stand.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 10:10 AM (2qU2d)

117 Can't spell my own name - Bobbitt

Posted by: J Bobbitt at February 19, 2010 10:10 AM (ucq49)

118 87 Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Posted by: Truman North at February 19, 2010 01:57 PM (e8YaH)

Ooooh!! Ya know I've been feeling kinda extremy lately, that wiki guy must be on to something.

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 10:12 AM (pr+up)

119 The Donald has a very small dick.

Posted by: Ivana the Dish at February 19, 2010 02:03 PM (M5t+h)


Hey, but you took all 4 inches. And I made sure it hurt, baby

Posted by: The Donald at February 19, 2010 10:12 AM (LdYLm)

120 >>I don't wish painful cancer death on anyone.  Except Canadians.

I agree, Andycanuck. That is a terrible thing to wish on anyone.
I prefer to wish nothing more than minor scrotal itch on the Canadians.

Posted by: Tushar at February 19, 2010 10:13 AM (KXhmI)

121 IE, the Governor should either have the power to choose a replacement Senator or not.   If he can't specify the replacement of his choice, then he doesn't have the power, does he?

I agree that makes sense, though as a matter of getting along with the voters, I doubt it's in any Governor's interest to make a big show of replacing the voters' will (Lautenberg was elected in 2002 and 2008, so this was a recent choice) with his own.

The question is, would the appointment be for the rest of the term (through 2014) or until the next convenient election (November)?  If the latter, Christie might be better off appointing a NJ version of Roland Burris, then campaigning hard for someone else this summer.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2010 10:14 AM (Xsi7M)

122

"I prefer to wish nothing more than minor scrotal itch on the Canadians."

Which is easily curable, for true believers, but using me

Posted by: Pudding at February 19, 2010 10:15 AM (ucq49)

123 Aw.  I'll lose no sleep over this. 

Posted by: Paul Revere at February 19, 2010 10:16 AM (epgqp)

124

Lautenberg???

*checks death pool.......

Damn, he's isn't worth shit! 

 

Posted by: wiserbud at February 19, 2010 10:17 AM (wWwJR)

125 >>I don't wish painful cancer death on anyone.  Except Canadians.

I agree, Andycanuck. That is a terrible thing to wish on anyone.
I prefer to wish nothing more than minor scrotal itch on the Canadians.

I wish 'em all the silver medals in the world.

Posted by: Methos at February 19, 2010 10:17 AM (Xsi7M)

126 Methos,

Never try to read legislation/constitutional provisions in plain English.  You usually come to the opposite conclusion from what the Court will rule.

Everything really does mean something there, and it means that the leg may give the gov power to appoint.  There is no grant of authority to the leg to condition that appointment power.  Because it is a grant of authority over a federal office to a state authority, that grant must be construed narrowly, meaning in short that if it ain't spelled out, it ain't there.

THere's nothing I can see in the XVIIth amend that gives the leg the ability to condition appointment to federal office on party membership. 

Almost certainly a novel question, but maybe not.  We have some really bad partisan fights in teh early 1800s, so there may be some analogous precedent.  The XVIIth was passed in 1919 though, so it's doubtful that there's anything ojn this particular provision.  Don't have Westlaw up or I'd tell you

Posted by: s'moron at February 19, 2010 10:20 AM (UaxA0)

127 88

"What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?"

I seem to recall a train station off the side of the freeway or "turnpike" as I drive Newark to NYC no? 

Posted by: California Red at February 19, 2010 01:57 PM (IpT4E)

Pffft, you gotta see the new train station on the nj tpk & the new light rail train into Jersey City...they are absolute fucking ghost towns-during rush hour!!! Just another NJ boon-doggle. Friggin depressing.

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 10:20 AM (pr+up)

128 So you're the reason I've got jock itch, Tushar. Thanks, man.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 10:24 AM (2qU2d)

129

Every time I see this asshole's name; Lautenberg I think of that BS amendment he tacked on to grab guns with. The infamous Lautenberg Amendment which prohibited anyone fropm owning a firearm if they had been convicted of domestic violence OR had a restraining order issued against them.  There were no exceptions.

I saw that SCOTUS had finally killed that BS a few months ago. The problem was it took too long. There were a lot of cops who lost their jobs because of that stupid law.

Posted by: Vic at February 19, 2010 10:26 AM (QrA9E)

130

Lautenberg's legacy? Why, that would have to be Lautenberg Junction, a transfer station for NJ Rail passengers attempting to commute to and from midtown Manhattan.

Budgeted at $450 million, it came in at over $600 million. It is not a junction as trains cannot change tracks there. It is over 300,000 square feet but contains only one lonely newsstand and a small bar that's never open.

It was proposed as a facility that would serve 70,000 passengers daily. Recently, users numbered a new high at around 17,000 daily. There was no plan for parking but a new parking facility just opened that the State is certain will increase ridership.

The Station is furnished with highly polished marble and lots of crappy art.

This is government at its very worst.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 19, 2010 10:27 AM (rplL3)

131

If Lautenberg has a legacy, it's flauting state election law.  I think a fitting tribute to his legacy would be to have democrats pass the law, and then have Christie ignore the law and appoint a Republican at the 11th hour. 

Assuming the jackass law gets passed, though, could Christie just refuse to appoint a successor?  From a conservative view, having no vote is better than having a liberal vote.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 19, 2010 10:31 AM (pZEar)

132 Resign ya fuckin' fossil so for once NJ law will allow Gov Christie to appoint his choice.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at February 19, 2010 10:32 AM (8WOM0)

133 Ironic..my 80 year old mother in law had stomach cancer surgery yesterday. It was very small and isolated so she will be fine. Hopefully ol Frank will be too.

Posted by: Bruceinsocal at February 19, 2010 10:35 AM (MX7La)

134

#130 Vic at February 19, 2010 02:26 PM (QrA9E)

 

Hey Vic, I wrote something similar up at comment #16.  I didn't know that there was something about it getting repealed by SCOTUS.  Can you elaborate?  Thanks.

Posted by: Ed at February 19, 2010 10:35 AM (OCfDT)

135 He didn't mean you, Andycanuck. You're one of the "good" ones. Hey, BTW, I'm moving up to Ancaster this summer. Be afraid. Be very afraid, eh?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 19, 2010 10:38 AM (40kuC)

136 I am the ultimate black swan.

Posted by: Death at February 19, 2010 10:45 AM (PD1tk)

137 Frank Lautenberg' legacy is the little speech the flight attendant gives you before take-off.  The part about tampering with the smoke detector.  Bring a box cutter in your carry on - not a word.  Explosives in your BVD's - silence.  Strand me on the Tarmac for hours and hours - no recourse.  But tamper with the smoke detector - A Federal Offense, subject to fine and jail.  That's Frank Lautenberg's legacy.

Posted by: Kid From Jersey at February 19, 2010 10:50 AM (yyZPe)

138

Can you elaborate?  Thanks.

Sorry didn't see the earlier comment. The case I read was on one of the law blogs a few months ago. I can't remember all of the specifics but basically it killed the amendment for anything but a felony conviction.

Being convicted of a felony has alweays been the standard for removal of gun rights previously. Hell with his BS amendment even a restraining order would get you and all takes for a restraining order is some beatch complaining to a family court judge.  

Posted by: Vic at February 19, 2010 10:58 AM (QrA9E)

139 Ancaster - very swank, Jeff.  I'll be moving to TO late spring, early summer.  My visa looks like it will come ahead of schedule.

Posted by: grognard at February 19, 2010 11:00 AM (v0kvW)

140 @140 -

Yep, I had a restraining order because of a psycho ex-wife deciding to slash-and-burn on her way out.  I ended up getting it tossed out, but in the meantime, it was in effect, and I could not own a firearm.

It was a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment - especially because, in my case, there was no due process.  My rights were curtailed and THEN I had my day in court.

Posted by: grognard at February 19, 2010 11:02 AM (v0kvW)

141

Frank Lautenberg, New Jersey's next shovel ready project!

just sayin'

Posted by: BIG ROB at February 19, 2010 11:06 AM (K2iC2)

142

What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?

Ask the millions of former gun owners who were deprived of their civil rights, either because they got into a fight with their brother on their eighteenth birthday, or because some vengeful shrew got a restraining order on them.

Posted by: Ken at February 19, 2010 11:09 AM (EawMs)

143 >>>Why don't you just call this blog the Allah Report and get it over with?

Hey why don't you suck my dick?

Posted by: ace

 

Hey! be careful about such talk. The guy who runs this blog may ban you.

 

I kid

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 19, 2010 11:10 AM (R2fpr)

144 What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?

Isn't he the dickhead that came back and saved the Dems from Torricelli or some crooked wop that they had nominated?

Posted by: Kemp at February 19, 2010 11:11 AM (2+9Yx)

145 Since the succession bill isn't a law and since the Gov. is a Republican I don't think we need to worry about legislative shenigans. They can whine - I think the public is tired of that stuff.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at February 19, 2010 11:12 AM (WgIbH)

146

Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

Edit that shit!

Actually, it would be funnier if everyone here added a new extreme adjective, up until the sentence took up a majority of the Wiki article.

Posted by: Ken at February 19, 2010 11:13 AM (EawMs)

147

Actually, it would be funnier if everyone here added a new extreme adjective, up until the sentence took up a majority of the Wiki article.

 

salacious

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 19, 2010 11:14 AM (R2fpr)

148 Given how despicable "The Lout" has behaved in the past, forgive me if I dance on his grave.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 19, 2010 11:14 AM (tH7KR)

149 I always figured we were "eXtreme" in the 90s sort of way.  You know, eXtreme!  To the MAX!

Posted by: Techie at February 19, 2010 11:16 AM (zbH+i)

150 Seriously. Die, Lout, die. His sleaze has been revolting

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 19, 2010 11:16 AM (tH7KR)

151

Actually, it would be funnier if everyone here added a new extreme adjective, up until the sentence took up a majority of the Wiki article.

 

lemon-scented

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 19, 2010 11:16 AM (R2fpr)

152 if he retires, find the best conservative candidate, have him or her change their party affiliation to (D) and then appoint them to the seat ...  once they hit Congress they can vote anyway they want ...  until the 2010 election control of the House doesn't depend on party affiliations given the current Dem advantage ...

Posted by: Jeff at February 19, 2010 11:28 AM (1QKZf)

153
50% of those so diagnosed respond well to treatment, but Frank Lautenberg is 86.

So, what are his options as a regular citizen under ObamaCare? pain pills?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 19, 2010 11:29 AM (1hM1d)

154 128 88 Legacy, hmm. That friggin' Secaucus station, with LAUTENBERG in 2 foot high letters, that nobody goes to, and you have to wait at least an hour for a connecting train? I love that place.

Posted by: Johnny I at February 19, 2010 11:37 AM (v77ig)

155

What the hell is Frank Lautenberg's legacy?


Oh. Oh. Oh. I know! [raising hand like an idiot, except I'm not]


The legacy its three decades of brainwashed non-MA Northeasterners voting for any Democrat, no mater how irresponsible, no matter how fatuous because their parents did, because there will always be more tax money from others, and because thinking is.....HARD.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 11:45 AM (GgR+e)

156 Tell me about it. . . .

Posted by: Robert Byrd Memorial State of West Virginia at February 19, 2010 11:54 AM (UaxA0)

157 We need to assume that around every political corner is a leftist and/or Democrat snake looking to trip us.  Lautenberg may be a fine man on the micro level, but in Politics, i.e., the macro level, his purpose is to seem too nice, and too old to say bad things about.  He is a kind of "nice mask" for some very stupid, irresponsible people and forces.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 12:03 PM (GgR+e)

158 Oh, I got zinged. Okay, I deserved it...

Posted by: Salem at February 19, 2010 12:05 PM (86rbG)

159

Lautenberg may be a fine man on the micro level

He's not even that. He is personally vicious and nasty.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 19, 2010 12:08 PM (tH7KR)

160

"Lautenberg may be a fine man on the micro level"

Micro level?  Like bacteria?  Mold?  Fungus?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 19, 2010 12:37 PM (ucq49)

161 #162 Amongst others, Dennis Prager distinguish two levels of life.  Micro is the personal; macro is government and society.  And, for example, compassion is a good micro thing, but a terrible macro thing.  Governments should be just, not be compassionate because being compassionate to one person necessarily is harmful to another.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 12:51 PM (GgR+e)

162 #161 Should have written "for all I know" instead of ...may be...

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 12:52 PM (GgR+e)

163 ObamaCare: "Les'see . . . I got the form here somewhere for the Death Panel review.  No no, you can't see your own doctor -- he's gone outta business.  Ya know, at 86, chemo can be kinda expensive for the rated return on your health and longevity.  Maybe we should save it for someone younger and poorer, hmmmm?  We got a blue pill here you can take . . .? "

Posted by: Dr. Obama at February 19, 2010 01:18 PM (SgSfB)

164 "I know nothing about chemo personally, fortunately, but of course I know it is hellishly tough on anyone unfortunate enough to need it, including the very young and strong." Not necessarily. These days chemo is not always so hard to tolerate. The cocktail of drugs has been considerably refined. A relative of mine was in his 80s when he underwent chemo for lymphoma; he had only minor side effects (temporary hair loss) and made a full recovery.

Posted by: sauropod at February 19, 2010 01:23 PM (hAAbr)

165   Stomach cancer, like any solid tissue cancer has an extrememly low cire rate. In addition, the chemo is  sickening and tiring.
 BY the way, state legislators routinely selected US Sens in the first 150 years

Posted by: corwin at February 19, 2010 02:20 PM (q5DB3)

166 Good news, everybody!  Ace of Spades HQ is noted in Wikipedia as an "extreme right-wing news group"

I see zero mentions of meteor summonings, and even worse, no mention of bacons whatosever. for shame people. for shame.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 19, 2010 03:31 PM (erIg9)

167 As far as chemo goes, it depends on the drug... fluorouracil (which combines fluorine with a nitrogenous base analog) can have some nasty effects on the nervous system, as well as your typical chemo-induced gastritis. That's a fairly common one, and that's if you don't get into the platinum-containing drugs (like cisplantin). Those are no fun, but lately, cisplantin and docetaxel have been used in combination with fluorouracil and some other drugs, but again... the whole point is for these drugs to be biologically damaging.

Not going to be fun for a man of his age. Prayers for him and for his family. And I hope to hell the Dems in the Senate see this for what it is and let him go to concentrate on beating this.


Posted by: tmi3rd at February 19, 2010 03:36 PM (u+G1L)

168 Chris Christie should do what the democraps would do in a similar situation. He would speak to the proposed nominee to fill the vacancy. The proposed nominee (a republican) would then change his/her party nomination to democrap. The governor would then nominate that person (being of the same party) to fill the seat. The papers would be signed off on. The nominee would get sworn into Congress and then have a change of heart and change his/her affiliation back to democrap. Or the nominee would stay in the democrap caucus as a spy and vote with the republicans on all major issues and be another vote for filibustering the socialist democrap plans.

Posted by: eaglewingz08 at February 19, 2010 03:47 PM (dv8zz)

169

At Sen. Lautenberg's age, this is not good news.  If it is localized he has a chance at recovery - if it has gone elsewhere he is, at his age, dead man walking.  As far as replacements - that will be whatever the law of New Jersey says when he either resigns or dies.

Cancer in an internal organ is a very, very bad thing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 19, 2010 04:20 PM (nlRuk)

170 #41 The qualifications for office are set out in the US Constitution.  To change those qualifications in any way - such as an upper age limit - would require an amendment.  Like the two term limit for president came about through an amendment.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 19, 2010 04:26 PM (nlRuk)

171 Don't worry.  Sen Lautenberg will receive the finest medical care that taxpayer money can buy for a select group that voted the privilege for themselves.

Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 20, 2010 01:12 AM (jpf1B)

172

You have to really think about these scum, can you really let people that have no ethics at all, are Homo, and do ANYTHING to win, run any enterprise, let alone govern us, teach our kids, run our financial institutions.

Hell even the Mafia have rules and ethics.

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