February 16, 2010
— DrewM So says the Sage of Screech, Keith Olbermann.
The whole of the "anger at government" movement is predicated on this. Times are tough, the future is confusing, the threat from those who would dismantle our way of life is real (as if we weren't to some extent doing it for them). And the president is black. But you can't come out and say that's why you are scared.Say that, and in all but the lifeless fringes of our society, you are an outcast. And so this is where the euphemisms come in. Your taxes haven't gone up, the budget deficit is from the last administration's adventurer's war, Grandma is much more likely to be death-paneled by your insurance company, and a Socialist president would be one who tried to buy as many voters as possible with tax cuts.
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But facts don't matter when you're looking for an excuse to say you hate this president (but not because he's black). Anything you can say out loud without your family and friends bursting into laughter at you, will do. And this is where the Tea Parties come in.But recognize what this backlash is, and you can free yourself of this movement built of inherited fears, and of echoes of 1963 or 1873. Look at who is leading you and why and look past the blustery self-justifications and see the fear — the unspoken, inchoate fear of those who are different.
If you believe there is merit to your political argument, fine. But ask yourself when you next go to a Tea Party rally, or watch one on television, or listen to a politician or a commentator praise these things or merely treat them as if it was just a coincidence that they are virtually segregated.
Ask yourself: Where are the black faces? Who am I marching with? What are we afraid of? And if it really is only a president's policy and not his skin. Ask yourself one final question: Why are you surrounded by the largest crowd you'll ever again see in your life that consists of nothing but people who look exactly like you?
So much stupid and so little time. And thatÂ’s just the excerpts.
Now, I donÂ’t accept OlbermannÂ’s description of tea parties as all white affairs. He offers no evidence of this, just ugly accusation but two thingsÂ…
First most polls show Obama polling at upwards of 90% with blacks so IÂ’m not sure why youÂ’d expect to find a lot of people who support these polices at rallies against them. And letÂ’s not pretend this divide is a new and sudden phenomenon. For comparison consider that in October 2005 George W. Bush was polling at 2% approval among blacks after Katrina. It's almost like all Presidents pay a political price for real or perceived failures.
Now we know for a fact that when blacks do attend these protests MSNBC has a nasty habit of whitewashing them out of the story (see what I did there?). Seems to me erasing a black man out of existence is a tad bit racist.
DonÂ’t forget that when SEIU goons attacked someone at a St. Louis protest, it was a black man named Kenneth Gladney who was injured.
But enough about the race angle. Race is a complicated subject thatÂ’s not going to be improved, let alone solved, in by an Olby Special Comment or a blog post. ThatÂ’s okay because itÂ’s irrelevant to this discussion anyway.
The real issue here is how the left tries to shut down debate and de-legitimize opposition by throwing around the charge of racism. This is one of the oldest tactics in their playbook. When Republicans win itÂ’s because they fooled the voters, or scared them, or played on their worst fears. ItÂ’s apparently impossible for a liberal to admit that perhaps they are wrong and the majority of voters disagree with them.
Consider OlbermannÂ’s conclusion that opposition to big government is only based on fear of Obama, not as left wing ideologue but of Obama as scary BLACK MAN.
This is such a silly notion and so easy to refute itÂ’s almost comical but let me give it a goÂ…
I would not like these same exact programs if say, to pick three liberals at random, Dennis Kucinich, Bill Clinton or Mike Huckabee were President.
Now since Keith is slow, allow me to point out that each of those 3 men is WHITE.
Other big government supporting politicians I am not a fan ofÂ…Harry Reid, the late Ted Kennedy, Tom Harkin, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Arlen Specter, Bernie Sanders, Charles Schumer, Pete Stark, Chris Dodd, Henry Waxman, John Edwards and John Kerry.
I also didnÂ’t like it when George W. Bush ran up huge but comparatively small deficits for 8 years (in fact, as Glenn Reynolds points out neither did a lot of the same people now in the tea party movement and they even organized and protested at the time!).
My God, all those politicians I just name...they are all white men (except for Pelosi)! Maybe Olbermann is right and I am a racist, not just an ordinary one but one of the worst kindÂ…a self-hating race and sex traitor!
ThereÂ’s a saying among lawyers, "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table*." In the case of the left, when thereÂ’s nothing on your side, just cry racism. They have lost just about every political fight in the last year on the merits yet they are simply too dishonest, lazy and nasty to admit it. So they will go on doing what they do bestÂ…smearing their fellow citizens for having the temerity to disagree with them.
*Ace sent me the corrected version of that saying.
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BTW, what's shakin' on HCR? Has the Dim One finally given up without announcing it?
Posted by: Where's my global warming? at February 16, 2010 09:27 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Johnnyreb at February 16, 2010 09:28 AM (JSetw)
Posted by: Olberdork at February 16, 2010 09:28 AM (T0NGe)
Pffft.
Six people and Keith Olbermann's cat watch Keith Olbermann.
I hope Comcast drops him off an overpass.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 16, 2010 09:29 AM (B+qrE)
The Left keeps going back to the same well, but that well is dry. This 'racist' shit isn't working, anymore.
Posted by: This is Ann Frank's Diary at February 16, 2010 09:30 AM (CD7+g)
Dude's obviously never been to a Tea Party. There ARE blacks and hispanics there, at least the ones I've been to. Olberdouche is an idiot.
Posted by: Where's my global warming? at February 16, 2010 09:31 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: madamex at February 16, 2010 09:31 AM (YS0e/)
Posted by: TxDan at February 16, 2010 09:32 AM (rUhnA)
But ask yourself when you next go to a Tea Party rally, or watch one on television...
And they started televising these Tea Parties, when?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2010 09:33 AM (i3AsK)
Posted by: JakeTaylor at February 16, 2010 09:33 AM (pjJBn)
Posted by: kefka at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (n1uMU)
Posted by: FreakyBoy at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (Q41Zh)
Posted by: LGoPs at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (v/rEn)
This may be the best legacy of the Obama years, taking the "racist" arrow out of the quiver. (I said "quiver." Not to be mistaken for "tingle" which is what runs up Chris Matthews' leg. Or "tinkle" which is what will run down his leg in November.)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (xxgag)
Haven't you heard? HCR is alive and well which is why we now exist to, uhhh, errr, keep a majority so we can pass HCR later?
Shit. Now I'm confused.
Posted by: The Save the Senate Tour at February 16, 2010 09:34 AM (+zo63)
Posted by: slade at February 16, 2010 09:35 AM (XsHAM)
So Olbermann has pointed out for us that blacks are racist for not showing up at Tea Party Rallies? That's weird.
Posted by: Dang at February 16, 2010 09:35 AM (UA4gE)
Posted by: Methos at February 16, 2010 09:35 AM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at February 16, 2010 09:35 AM (kEBiX)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 16, 2010 09:35 AM (swuwV)
"But I called you raaaaaacist!!! I won the argument!"
Posted by: AmishDude at February 16, 2010 09:36 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Boots at February 16, 2010 09:37 AM (06JTY)
Posted by: Jules Cat at February 16, 2010 09:37 AM (6SGWt)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 16, 2010 09:37 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: brad at February 16, 2010 09:37 AM (zTZGo)
What I think I heard: A local (North Carolina) teacher is suspended after making disparaging statements about his/her students on Facebook. Including posting that a student leaving a Bible on her desk was a hate crime and that the kids were all ignorant rednecks. The teacher's name siounded like "Hussein" and I got the impression it was a woman, but I'm not sure.
Off to prowl the intertubes for info...
Posted by: lincolntf at February 16, 2010 09:38 AM (vVM8h)
Posted by: Beto at February 16, 2010 09:38 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: Keith Olbermann's cat at February 16, 2010 09:39 AM (4Kl5M)
OJ Simpson's bloody glove should be donated to the African-America Culture Center at the Smithsonian.
After all, Simpson was arrested by a white cop.
Posted by: This is Ann Frank's Diary at February 16, 2010 09:40 AM (CD7+g)
And another thing, taxes are going up. Those who pay property taxes are seeing increased taxes, to pay for spending done by local govt that is picking up the slack from states and the feds.
Posted by: Boots at February 16, 2010 09:40 AM (06JTY)
Posted by: Boots at February 16, 2010 01:37 PM (06JTY)
I know one thing for damn sure. I'm not going to volunteer to do an inspection to find out.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 16, 2010 09:42 AM (xxgag)
I can't remember the name of the talk radio guy at the 9/12 march on Washington who stood up and said, "I'm just here so you can all see a black man talk without a teleprompter"...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 16, 2010 09:42 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: lincolntf at February 16, 2010 01:38 PM (vVM8h)
http://tinyurl.com/ya6ny3p
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2010 09:42 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Shillelagh at February 16, 2010 09:43 AM (Oz4Bj)
Don't forget homophobe and islamaphobe.They even invent words to shut down any argument they can't win.
Posted by: Mal at February 16, 2010 09:44 AM (Z+qzA)
Posted by: nikkolai at February 16, 2010 09:45 AM (i4ujc)
Thanks.
The story/link I found was lame. Can't wait to see how the hyper-Lib local paper covers this tomorrow.
Posted by: lincolntf at February 16, 2010 09:45 AM (vVM8h)
Not on MSNBC, the whitest cable news network around. Which by KO's logic would make him a racist.
Posted by: taylork at February 16, 2010 09:45 AM (0Hn5w)
Posted by: nickless at February 16, 2010 09:45 AM (MMC8r)
Ask yourself: Where are the black faces?
Better question is why do the MSM cameras show almost exclusively white faces?
Answer: The MSM is race baiting.
Alternative Answer: There are other races being shown, it's just that they're scared half to death of Obama's policies so they just look white without the blood in their faces.
Posted by: Speller at February 16, 2010 09:45 AM (o0R2E)
The saying is: "If the facts are on your side, pound the facts. If the law is on your side, pound the law. If if neither is on your side, pound the table. If you're an MSNBC host, pound your pud."
I might have added that last part.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 16, 2010 09:46 AM (UBQGM)
What about the pickup trucks, Keith, sir? Don't forget the, sir, pickup trucks!
Sir!
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 16, 2010 09:46 AM (cHFZO)
Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 16, 2010 09:47 AM (wnU1W)
Posted by: eddiebear at February 16, 2010 09:48 AM (wnU1W)
Posted by: VELVET AMBITION at February 16, 2010 09:48 AM (xLMtq)
Posted by: jukin at February 16, 2010 09:49 AM (vkkNZ)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 16, 2010 09:49 AM (IVQSY)
And they started televising these Tea Parties, when?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 16, 2010 01:33 PM (i3AsK)
Well they do I'm sure whenever they can get an image of a guy holding up a racist or loony sign at the events when they can avoid all the other signs. Your know kind of like an inversion of how they handled the war protests. When they had to look for the guy holding up a rational sign while avoiding all the vulgar crazy and communist signs.
Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2010 09:51 AM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Vile Roman at February 16, 2010 09:51 AM (iBzKc)
FWIW, here is my 5 month old response to the Olby types
Posted by: eddiebear at February 16, 2010 09:52 AM (wnU1W)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 16, 2010 09:52 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 16, 2010 09:53 AM (eNxMU)
Does anyone else think that a teacher caught crowing about succesfully shaming Muslim students for their faith would somehow be behind bars tonught? If not for hate crimes, then in protective custody.
Posted by: lincolntf at February 16, 2010 09:53 AM (vVM8h)
Posted by: toby928 at February 16, 2010 09:53 AM (PD1tk)
Care to give me a brief synopsis so I don't have to read such lunacy?
Posted by: taylork at February 16, 2010 09:54 AM (0Hn5w)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 16, 2010 09:55 AM (AZGON)
OJ Simpson's bloody glove should be donated to the African-America Culture Center at the Smithsonian.
After all, Simpson was arrested by a white cop.
Don't laugh--there are Leftists and black militants who think just this. Actually, I think Olberdouche has a point, but of course he can't admit it. There IS racism involved in all of this, but it's time to see from whom and from where it is *really* coming.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 16, 2010 09:55 AM (ujg0T)
We really need to organize a plan to get Keith Olbermann off the air. I am sick and tired of this guy and I want to see him homeless and eating out of a dumpster.
What advertisers does he have left? I know, this means someone has to take it for the team and actually sit through his show- maybe TIVOing and fast forwarding if you can.
Remember when you TIVOed in order to fast forward through the commercials?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 16, 2010 09:57 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 16, 2010 09:58 AM (rNhWK)
Joey Belle: Schoolyard bully
Queef Douchermann: Cowering twat
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2010 09:59 AM (ypGDY)
Olbermann.......*yaaaaawn*
Wake me when "Rachel" finishes her gender reassignment surgery and she's fully a Richard. Then MSNBC will look even more spectacular with its white male mental patient in waiting line-up while it bangs the drum about the so-called white male mental patient in waiting political identity.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 16, 2010 10:03 AM (hGdqD)
Who could win a fist-fight? Keith or Sarah? Seriously.....
Posted by: nikkolai at February 16, 2010 10:03 AM (i4ujc)
Posted by: antimatter at February 16, 2010 10:08 AM (gbCNS)
I wonder if Lloyd Marcus, Kevin Jackson (The Black Sphere), Les Phillip, Antonio Hinton, or that guy whose name I can't remember would deign to go on his show.
I'm guessing they have better things to do with their time.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 16, 2010 10:08 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: OregonMuse at February 16, 2010 10:09 AM (JkUVD)
"...to pick three liberals at random, Dennis Kucinich, Bill Clinton or Mike Huckabee were President. "
Huckabee. I love it. Speaking Truth to Power.
PS baaaa baaaa Bayh was a lib too. Not a centrist as the MSM likes to portray.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 16, 2010 10:16 AM (ucq49)
Posted by: joe at February 16, 2010 10:16 AM (rf1Kd)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 16, 2010 10:18 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 16, 2010 10:23 AM (AZGON)
If Keefums wants to show his solidarity with the black people, he could easily move from his penthouse to Harlem.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2010 10:25 AM (sYxEE)
Can we start with MSNBC anchors, though?
Posted by: John at February 16, 2010 10:26 AM (s5XiV)
That would be Alonzo Rachel. Dude's awesome.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2010 10:27 AM (I/MqP)
"Checking Your Prostate"
"Tax Audit"
"Bathing Your Wife's Cat"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2010 10:30 AM (I/MqP)
I'm sure that when he goes off the set and into his dressing room, he goes off like Hitler in those Youtube videos.
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2010 10:31 AM (sYxEE)
Olbermann was born January 27, 1959, in New York City to Marie Katherine (née Charbonier), a preschool teacher, and Theodore Olbermann, a commercial architect, and is of German descent.He has one younger sister, Jenna, who was born in 1968. Olbermann grew up in a Unitarian household in the town of Hastings-on-Hudson in Westchester County, and attended Hackley School in nearby Tarrytown.
Yeh, Keefums really knows the hood, doesn't he...
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2010 10:39 AM (sYxEE)
This guy was older (I love Zo's videos). I want to say he was from California.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 16, 2010 10:43 AM (mR7mk)
97 Does Wiki talk about how his parents thought "psycohological testing" was in order.
Maybe that was just the New Yorker article.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 16, 2010 10:53 AM (hGdqD)
This guy was older (I love Zo's videos). I want to say he was from California.
You might be right. I definitely remember Zo using that joke, but it might have been the April 15 Tea Party thing.
Herman Cain uses that joke too (I saw him use it on C-Span while doing a talk with YAF). Perhaps that's who we're talking about.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2010 10:54 AM (I/MqP)
77 I think it was the blog Predictable Hipster that came up with this gem:
Many
Shows
No
Blacks
Channel
Posted by: Blackford Oakes
That does work!
Posted by: Dang at February 16, 2010 10:59 AM (UA4gE)
Maybe that was just the New Yorker article.
You know the cool thing about Wikipedia is you can edit the articles, then link your source.
Muah.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 16, 2010 11:01 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: UncleZeb at February 16, 2010 11:03 AM (Fgu3H)
Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 16, 2010 11:13 AM (O9Cc8)
Posted by: doug at February 16, 2010 11:14 AM (75C2c)
Posted by: Ken at February 16, 2010 11:14 AM (EawMs)
On the other hand, I have watched lefty "alternate media journalists" lower their cameras or turn them off entirely when a black person entered the scene or even gave a speech, so I can understand why the poor little progressive dears are confused.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 16, 2010 11:19 AM (oU1tC)
Olbermann was born January 27, 1959, in New York City to Marie Katherine (née Charbonier), a preschool teacher, and Theodore Olbermann, a commercial architect, and is of German descent.He has one younger sister, Jenna, who was born in 1968. Olbermann grew up in a Unitarian household in the town of Hastings-on-Hudson in Westchester County, and attended Hackley School in nearby Tarrytown.
Yeh, Keefums really knows the hood, doesn't he...
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2010 02:39 PM (sYxEE)
Oh, I smell Red Diaper Baby, especially the Unitarian connection. No wonder he's such a bonehead...
Posted by: Cave Bear at February 16, 2010 11:22 AM (WmZrs)
Eh...isn't the total black population in the U.S. only about 12%??
The ratio of them being Tea-Partiers sounds about right.
What a RETARDED fuck-wad.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 16, 2010 11:23 AM (pr+up)
I would not like these same exact programs if say, to pick three liberals at random, Dennis Kucinich, Bill Clinton or Mike Huckabee were President.
Now since Keith is slow, allow me to point out that each of those 3 men is WHITE.
Raaaaaaaaaaacist! You know that Bill Clinton was the first black president!
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 16, 2010 11:28 AM (1hM1d)
Hastings-on-Hudson in Westchester County, and attended Hackley School in nearby Tarrytown.
HeHe...used to work in that neck of the nape in my heavy drinkin days...Its a very she-she area. We used to love peeing on a few select lawns in the neighborhood after Titty bar hoppin in yonkers. Ahhh good times indeed.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 16, 2010 11:28 AM (pr+up)
Keiff, we know where most of the black faces are. In URBAN SHITHOLES waiting for the goverment to wipe their ass after School breakfast lunch and dinner.
Keiffie, since you brought it up, which one of you, Maddow and Christine Matthews is black?
Keiffie, you LIBS block school choice for blacks and you expect them to vote for your candidates and you demand they stay on the reservation by handing out freebies and keeping them dependant on GOVERNMENT.
Posted by: gus at February 16, 2010 11:34 AM (Vqruj)
Anyone see L. O'Donnels latest meltdown on Mornin Joe?
This man is in serious need of an ass kicking.
I would actually pay for the privilege.
Posted by: vae victus at February 16, 2010 11:36 AM (oi4Yx)
106 - I agree, my gaydar goes off the chart anytime I see his ugly mug.
If he's not getting boogered regularly, you just know he wants to
Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2010 11:36 AM (+FkcS)
Posted by: it'smedude at February 16, 2010 11:42 AM (t2gGa)
Consider Beck's conclusion that opposition to big government neoconservativism is only based on unfounded conspiracy theories, as if our bureaucratic government performed without flaw on 9/11 given how thoroughly responsibly government employees consistently work, never failing to fulfill their complete job descriptions to maintain the security of our Constitutional Governance. Given Beck's revisionism to eschew those conservative American citizens who demand transparency in government, 9/11 never really happened as it did unfold, since the average American was blindsided. It's as if the outrage at being victimized by Islamofascists purged our government of any faults or responsibility for not having performed national defense, as if our national defense and national intelligence did a great job preventing the terrorist attack. To say otherwise and point to the outrageous deficient response from our military to at least defend the Pentagon with missile defense is to be an ignorant "truther" according to Beck and neoconservative devotees. Given the revised expectations since 9/11 that American citizens are "permitted" to expect from our US government, we are now to expect the worst. So much for Great Expectations, only for organized criminals usurping our government.
"If the facts aren't on your side, argue the law." They have lost just about every political fight in the last year on the merits yet they are simply too dishonest, lazy and nasty to admit it. So they will go on doing what they do bestÂ…smearing their fellow citizens for having the temerity to disagree with them.
The Constitutional prerequisite of every POTUS to be a natural born citizen was purposely ignored by you and your friends because it was too inconvenient to pursue its adherence during the primary for the 2008 election; it made you feel too uncomfortable to address, let alone tackle, fearing the "racist" tag, hence enabling the dissolution of our Constitutional protection (not simply an expectation) for the presidential qualifications.
And now that there is the Constitutional independent conservative GOP candidate for our Texas gubenitorial race who is threatening the corrupt kickback career politician with strong grass roots support, not only do you falsely smear this Tea Party candidate along with all Americans who no longer "trust" government reports, but you fail to research her platform and agenda, and fail to converse with Medina yourself, as if you are just too good for the likes of an all American Southwestern woman in politics. Or else, like Rick Perry, you loath being held to the facts prior to revisionism for public consumption.
If revisionism erases and revises the record, don't assist; rather, produce and hold firm your own knowledge on record.
The Constitutional prerequisite of every POTUS to be a natural born citizen was purposely ignored by you and your friends because it was too inconvenient to pursue its adherence during the primary for the 2008 election; it made you feel too uncomfortable to tackle, fearing the "racist" tag so enabling the dissolution of our Constitutional protection of the presidential qualification. And now that there is the Constitutional independent conservative GOP candidate for our Texas gubenitorial race who is threatening the corrupt kickback career politician with strong grass roots support, not only do you falsely smear this Tea Party candidate but you fail to research her platform and agenda, and fail to converse with Medina yourself, as if you are just too good for the likes of an all American Southwestern woman in politics.
If revisionism erases and revises the record, don't assist; rather, produce and hold firm your own knowledge. I know there are serious questions raised that have not been addressed in full, but rather erased from public debate and now revised in reference to denounce any who are yet unsatisfied with the official response.
Don't tell me you've forgotten these items noted in Wiki that once made great threads @ Ace:
Censorship of evidence
The National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, consisting of former FBI, NSA and other federal intelligence experts, claim the 9/11 Commission report was fundamentally flawed because the Commission refused to hear, ignored, or censored testimony about the many pre-September 11 warnings given to the FBI and US intelligence agencies. These federal whistleblowers claim that in an effort to avoid having to hold any individual accountable, the 9/11 Commission turned a blind eye on FBI agent-provided evidence before September 11 regarding the 9/11 plot.
Able Danger
In August 2005, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer claimed he had informed 9/11 Commission Executive Director Dr. Philip D. Zelikow about a highly classified data-mining project called Able Danger that had identified two of the three terrorist cells responsible for 9/11. Shaffer said Dr. Zelikow was initially very interested and gave Shaffer his card to contact him again. However, Shaffer claims when he contacted Dr. Zelikow, he was no longer interested in information about Able Danger. The commission later issued a response saying they found Shaffer "not sufficiently reliable" and the information was "lacking historical significance" and did not warrant further investigation. Subsequently, four additional "credible witnesses" have come forward to support Shaffer's account of Able Danger.
US Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA) claimed Commission staff had received two briefings on Able Danger, one in October 2003 and another in July 2004. Former Senator Slade Gorton (R-WA), a member of the Commission, said: "Bluntly, it just didn't happen and that's the conclusion of all 10 of us." A search for documents on Able Danger has not been very productive, leading Curt Weldon to express extreme disappointment and to speculate that a coverup may have occurred.
The Pentagon investigated the matter and has not been able to find any documentary evidence confirming the allegations. Pentagon spokesman Army Maj. Paul Swiergosz said: "We've interviewed 80 people involved with Able Danger, combed through hundreds of thousands of documents and millions of e-mails and have still found no documentation of Mohamed Atta." Weldon claims that the Pentagon ordered the destruction of a large volume of documents related to Able Danger. The Pentagon stated that due to regulations regarding the collection of data on foreign visitors in the United States that the records had been destroyed.
(Further information @ Able Danger main article)
FBI director's critique
Former FBI director Louis Freeh criticized the 9/11 Commission for ignoring key evidence from Able Danger, which he alleged resulted in false statements being made in the final 9/11 Commission report. For example, the 9/11 Commission concluded that "American intelligence agencies were unaware of Mr. Atta until the day of the attacks," which Mr. Freeh stated appears to be false. He stated that Able Danger had identified Mohammed Atta, the alleged ring-leader of the 19 hijackers, as an Al Qaida man active in the United States and was tracking him for many months.
Further, Director Freeh criticized the Commission for allowing the Pentagon to withhold key evidence about the facts found by Able Danger and concluded that these inadequacies raised serious questions about the credibility of the 9/11 Commission.
Sandy Berger Convicted of mishandling classified terror documents...
/Wikipedia
Posted by: maverick muse at February 16, 2010 11:59 AM (H+LJc)
Look at this ridiculous passage:
"The whole of the "anger at government" movement is predicated on this. Times are tough, the future is confusing, the threat from those who would dismantle our way of life is real (as if we weren't to some extent doing it for them). And the president is black. But you can't come out and say that's why you are scared."
You see, there are a lot of legitimate reasons to be scared. But let's be honest, you're only scared because Obama's black.
These continuing accusations do a few things:
- reinforce the idea among people who already believe that Republicans/Tea Partiers/people who didn't vote for Obama are evil racists, justifying verbal, physical, and property abuse against them
- cause fear that not supporting Obama will get them accused of racism and even suffer the kind of abuse mentioned above (Nice McCain bumper sticker you've got there...)
- make it politically incorrect and impolite to express any dissent, and almost obligatory and praiseworthy to openly express pro-Obama sentiments
I don't think it's helpful to do as Drew does here and immediately go on the defensive, trying to explain why you're not racist. That makes it seem like they have a legitimate argument to begin with. You have to treat it just the same as if they called the Tea Party a bunch of assholes, because that's all it is: baseless namecalling. Until white people in this country (and yes, it's only white people who really suffer from this) start letting accusations of racism slide like water off a duck's back, we'll be forever at the mercy of the racemongers.
Posted by: the peanut gallery at February 16, 2010 12:22 PM (mg/vv)
Posted by: ddiddly at February 16, 2010 12:27 PM (JXF5g)
Posted by: arminius at February 16, 2010 12:28 PM (b1xzA)
Posted by: av at February 16, 2010 12:28 PM (rG4O2)
The "surprising" thing here is NOT that KO makes these kinds of statements. The surprise is that he is given an expensive latform to make those statements.
A platform that is losing money hand over fist.
Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2010 12:33 PM (QrA9E)
Until white people in this country (and yes, it's only white people who really suffer from this) start letting accusations of racism slide like water off a duck's back, we'll be forever at the mercy of the racemongers.
Hear hear. Or better yet, let's just see who the *real* racists are. If the Demunists want to play the race card, play it right back, and let the numbers fall in our favor.
Posted by: LameSM at February 16, 2010 12:38 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Ken at February 16, 2010 03:14 PM (EawMs)
That's what I think too but even if not, he's extremely uncomfortable in his own skin. Nothing revealed that as much as his reaction to Coulter pointing out he graduated from Moo U. Anybody with self-confidence would've just ignored that with a smirk; instead Bathtub Boy goes full-metal spazzo and brings his diploma on the set in a cringe-inducing show of insecurity even by MessNBC's incredibly low standards. My guess is that he's pretty fucking dumb and masks it by being somewhat glib and having graduated from an Ivy League school (wink, wink).
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2010 12:40 PM (ypGDY)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 16, 2010 12:59 PM (ujg0T)
Flush, it's gone. Just like Keith. I wonder if MSNBC writes his salary off as a charitable donation?
Posted by: MarkD at February 16, 2010 01:57 PM (0FVgz)
128 -- Exactly...Keith is a village idiot who's found his way to entertain the crowd I guess.
Posted by: unknown jane at February 16, 2010 02:00 PM (5/yRG)
I *own* the word racist, trick.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at February 16, 2010 03:14 PM (KYuc0)
Gee…Let’s look at the line-up at the “Rainbow Coalition” that is MSNBC, i.e. The place for (liberal) politics”
Olbermann = White
Matthews = Really. really , really White
Maddow = White
Schuster = White
Ratigan = White
Schultz = SPF 500 White
MSNBC = The Monochromatic Network!
Posted by: Alan Davidson at February 16, 2010 03:18 PM (2KqwI)
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Posted by: Lee at February 16, 2010 04:08 PM (zF8wD)
Obama is NOT black. Obama is your typical ivy league white elitist whose father happens to be from Africa.
He was raised in a white household by a white mother and grandparents in a white community.
He is genetically half-black, but culturally he's whiter than Donnie Osmond.
I dislike him because of his politics. He's the Manchurian candidate. He's a communist masquerading as a centrist.
Anyone who looks at him and sees a "black" man instead of a Marxist Man, probably is an inbred racist redneck sister fucking asshat.
I mean really! If someone like Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell were president, would anyone here be complaining about it?
The color of Obama's skin is completely disconnected from anything of relevance when it comes to his position as president. You might as well talk about his shoe size.
Posted by: Lee at February 16, 2010 04:23 PM (zF8wD)
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Posted by: /dev/null at February 16, 2010 09:00 PM (7lAxC)
http://tinyurl.com/yj6qrd9
A black boy is playing in the kitchen and he covers himself in flour. He goes up to his mother and says, “Mommy, look at me! I’m not a little black boy anymore I’m a little MSNBC presenter!”
WHACK! His mum slaps him around the head, “Go and tell your Father what you just said!”
So the little black boy, complete with sore cheek walks into the living room and says to his Father, “Daddy look at me! I’m not a little black boy any more, I’m a little MSNBC presenter!”
WHACK! His father kicks him in the balls, “Go and tell your Gran what you just said!”
So the little black boy hobbles into the garden and says to his Gran, “Granny look at me! I’m not a little black boy any more, I’m a little MSNBC presenter!"
WHACK! His gran punches him in the nose and asks him what he has to say for himself.
Standing there with blood pouring down his face, clutching his balls he says “I’ve only been an MSNBC presenter for 5 minutes and already I hate n****rs!”
Posted by: mandible claw at February 16, 2010 09:39 PM (QKrrS)
You know, Olbermann and Johnson have something in common, it's that they have pathetically hitched their wagons to the Democrat party and Glowball Warmage, and both are on their way out.
Johnson feverishly scours the web to rebut the latest scandal debunking AGW, and you can find anything to back up any point of view on the web, but he looks increasingly desperate and stupid doing so.
He'll continue to rant how the GOP is evil and doomed right up until the election and the Dems lose both houses, and he's stuck backing AGW right up until James Hanson is fired and Al Gore retires from public life in shame, but he'll be increasingly laughed at until he's finally just ignored.
I expect the last thought flickering through CJ's lizard brain as he tastes the oily steel will be "damn, I should have stuck with hating on A-rabs, that never goes out of style".
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