February 18, 2010
— Jack M. Well, no man who has ever enjoyed the intimate company of a member of the opposite sex, I suppose. Or perhaps even of the same sex. I mean, we're talking straight up virgins only on this trip, yo.
I speak, of course, of going tothe following discussion thread currently burning up the interwebs over at the New Scientist. It was forwarded to me by someone who said "don't you dare attribute this to me" so I won't.
(That Salem check better clear, Allahpundit.)
I kid..It wasn't really Allahpundit who tipped me to this. I promise.
Anyway, the topic of such heated discussion? Whether Captain Kirk and crew would be instantly killed by radiation from hydrogen atoms should the Enterprise actually achieve warp speed. The short answer? Yes. Yes they would.
I tried to read the article, but I had a hard time getting thru the correction made at the beginning of the article. Did you ever think you would see a correction that looked like this in a kinda prominent science magazine?
Update: An earlier version of this story referred to the Borg using cloaking technology, which several readers pointed out is not supported by televisual evidence. Of course, we were speculating on the technology existing in the alternate universe created by J. J. Abrams. However, to avoid confusion we have amended the decloaking reference to cite the Romulans.
Damn that lack of televisual evidence! Seriously though, wouldn't you like to read the emails from people pissed off enough about this to write in and complain? I bet some of them are real fun at parties, in an I'm Dr. Amy Bishop! kinda way.
Anyway, i really have very little to add to this discussion. I just figured some of you morons would get off on this subject. And that you might be able to help me do some detective work.
Because I know that Ace has probably commented several times in the 383 comments posted to date. I'm setting the over under at 17. Think you can help me find them all?
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Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at February 18, 2010 02:27 PM (xqhoO)
Posted by: Iskandar at February 18, 2010 02:29 PM (/o58C)
Posted by: Dr. "Bones" McCoy at February 18, 2010 02:31 PM (Bsm1s)
For fuck's sake:
"Lorentz transformation" and "Special Relativity".
There. Educate yourself.
fercrissakes, this article has more holes than an East Anglia CRU report on global warming.
Posted by: blogRot at February 18, 2010 02:32 PM (chysP)
Wow. Those hydrogen atoms strike me as very similar to the Tea Baggers.
Posted by: Kasper Hasuer at February 18, 2010 02:32 PM (KeOQp)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 18, 2010 02:33 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: the Butcher at February 18, 2010 02:34 PM (8g9qq)
Posted by: Ogre at February 18, 2010 02:35 PM (W5NBA)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2010 02:36 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Bones at February 18, 2010 02:36 PM (rVJH4)
Posted by: rightzilla at February 18, 2010 02:37 PM (rVJH4)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at February 18, 2010 02:37 PM (F09Uo)
Posted by: Blizzard Games, Inc. at February 18, 2010 02:38 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: George Lucas at February 18, 2010 02:39 PM (chysP)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt what lurks the intertubes at night at February 18, 2010 02:40 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jack M. at February 18, 2010 02:41 PM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: Spacing Guild at February 18, 2010 02:43 PM (swuwV)
...televisual evidence....
Oh dear...it's even worse than I imagined...
And I imagined it pretty freakin nerdy.
Posted by: eleven at February 18, 2010 02:43 PM (OGbpf)
Posted by: gomm at February 18, 2010 02:43 PM (Ibk1S)
NEEEEEEEERDS!
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 02:44 PM (1fanL)
And then have to argue the point with them.
Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2010 02:44 PM (MMC8r)
23 Hey..somebody put me some freaking knowledge here.
I saw this passage in the article...
"Lorentz transformation" and "Special Relativity". ten years on the ship = 50000 years back on earth.
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: blogRot at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (chysP)
But hey, we MUST respect our scientific betters, since they are well-grounded in reality and peer review processes.
Loons. All of them.
Posted by: s'moron at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (p1s9n)
Posted by: Sam at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (Cxsey)
Posted by: alexthechick at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (lvYSc)
There's that Dilbert cartoon where Scott Adams predicts that the invention of the holodeck means the end of the human race.
Can't find a link to the cartoon, but here's a quote I found on the internet that gives you the moron explanation:
If I had a holodeck, I'd close the door and never come out until I died of exhaustion. It would be hard to convince me I should be anywhere but in the holodeck, getting my oil massage from Cindy Crawford and her simulated twin sister.
I'll be in my bunk.
Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (ho3Nu)
Posted by: gomm at February 18, 2010 06:43 PM (Ibk1S)
I'm intrigued by your views. Might you have a newsletter to which I could subscribe?
Posted by: Stephen Hawking at February 18, 2010 02:45 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 02:48 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mrs. Greedo at February 18, 2010 02:48 PM (0QJjg)
Posted by: blaster at February 18, 2010 02:49 PM (ho3Nu)
Posted by: rightzilla at February 18, 2010 02:49 PM (rVJH4)
Posted by: Evil Otto at February 18, 2010 02:50 PM (nuzRz)
Posted by: Koolest Trekkie at February 18, 2010 02:50 PM (rVJH4)
I think something out of the matrix (where you "plug in" to a virtual world) might be a little more realistic than a Holodeck. But yeah, humanity would come to a screeching halt. Think about it, there are already people you can't even pry away from world of war craft.
Posted by: Sam at February 18, 2010 02:52 PM (Cxsey)
38 Actually, traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops. Without precise calculations you could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?
Careful. That's the kind of crazy-talk that'll get you denied tenure.
Posted by: joejm65 at February 18, 2010 02:53 PM (vSncj)
Posted by: di butler, lover of blasty things at February 18, 2010 02:53 PM (S3xX1)
Posted by: gomm at February 18, 2010 06:43 PM (Ibk1S)
According to my math there are. But hey, I've been proven wrong many times. What did you say that newsletter was called?
Posted by: Albert "Juden Physik" Einstein at February 18, 2010 02:53 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Jack M. at February 18, 2010 02:53 PM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: Zaphod Beeblebrox at February 18, 2010 02:55 PM (kLZ2Z)
THE DANGERS OF TRAVELING AT LIGHT SPEED. Well, duh. ThatÂ’s why you need deflector shields . . . .
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at February 18, 2010 02:56 PM (PMGbu)
I think we should take into account what a real professional thinks. Just ask Dr. Hasslein:
Posted by: Mrs. Zaius at February 18, 2010 02:56 PM (0QJjg)
Bristol Palin apparently thinks her baby daddy, Levi Johnston, is a big fat liar ... and she's subpoenaing CNN and Playgirl to prove it.
The lawyer for Sarah Palin's kid is scoffing at legal docs filed by Levi's lawyer -- docs claiming Levi made but a pittance over the last few years and should not have to pay $1,688.42 a month in child support - which is what Bristol wants.
Levi says the best he's done in the income department so far is last year -- claiming he made approximately $101,000. Apparently Palin's not buying it, because her lawyer issued subpoenas today to CNN, Playgirl, Entertainment Tonight, The Insider, Star Magazine, and National Enquirer, asking for hard figures on how much they paid Levi.
Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2010 02:57 PM (X69zM)
Special relativity would say that time passes at different rates (10 years for the crew )and (50,000 years for everyone not travelling with them). But the author seems to be saying not that the years are equivalent, in the sense that 10 for some equals 50,000 for others, but are instead compressed so that 10 years = the time of the trip for all involved.
Posted by: Jack M. at February 18, 2010 06:53 PM (Ncr1R)
Yeah, you got it right. That's where the dilithium crystals come in.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 02:57 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Jack M. at February 18, 2010 02:58 PM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: Gary Lockwood II at February 18, 2010 02:58 PM (0QJjg)
Posted by: crosspatch at February 18, 2010 03:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
Posted by: 48%er at February 18, 2010 03:02 PM (gxpfq)
Posted by: Unnamed Officer in Charge of Uniforms at February 18, 2010 03:03 PM (1fanL)
46. weed, muscle relaxers & vodka I had earlier
Nice of you to bring enough for all of us, especially since some of us are still suffering through our work day.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 18, 2010 03:03 PM (cniXs)
As for these cretins at New Scientist, well, come on. They're English.
Posted by: shibumi at February 18, 2010 03:03 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Lace Wig Guy at February 18, 2010 03:04 PM (yrG0P)
Posted by: crosspatch at February 18, 2010 07:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
BUUUUUUNK!! Bring my Val-U-Rite and the still-living hobo!
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2010 03:05 PM (1fanL)
Meh, just stipulate another dimension.
I'm also thinking some of the stable super-heavy elements predicted to exist in the theorized "island of stability" area of the periodic table might be able to solve the shielding issues.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 18, 2010 03:05 PM (JQPmu)
Posted by: Pavel Jackov at February 18, 2010 03:05 PM (0QJjg)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 18, 2010 03:06 PM (JQPmu)
BUUUUUUNK!! Bring my Val-U-Rite and the still-living hobo!
Damn, the strangest things get Ace excited.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 18, 2010 03:07 PM (cniXs)
"Going Where No Man Has Gone Before"
I had assumed, you meant. approaching the "Y", with whatever, of progressive, supposedly XY members of the "human" race.
Guess not.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 18, 2010 03:07 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: crosspatch at February 18, 2010 07:01 PM (ZbLJZ)
I'm all for Ace getting fithy rich and becoming the scourge of the French Rivieran hobos, but I have a feeling this place would be unrecognizable under corporate leadership.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:07 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Chewie Lewis at February 18, 2010 03:09 PM (0QJjg)
Posted by: Skoal Chew and Broadcasting, Inc. at February 18, 2010 03:10 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Purple Avenger
at February 18, 2010 07:05 PM (JQPmu)
There's anti-matter. And exotic matter. They think exotic matter could hold open the wormholes gomm doesn't think exists. Gomm the retard, that is.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:10 PM (1fanL)
#46-work is going muuuuuch better for me today. ;-) My hubby is at a trade show, so I decided to enjoy the day. Too bad we don't live close. I would share w/ a moronette.
Posted by: di butler, lover of blasty things at February 18, 2010 03:10 PM (S3xX1)
Special relativity would say that time passes at different rates (10 years for the crew )and (50,000 years for everyone not travelling with them). But the author seems to be saying not that the years are equivalent, in the sense that 10 for some equals 50,000 for others, but are instead compressed so that 10 years = the time of the trip for all involved.
I think the author was taking liberties on actual physics to get to the point of the mass velocity of hydogen at near light speeds (and the resulting effects on biomatter as well as hydrogen embrittlement of metals) and Edelstein's 'death ray'. Case - "less than 10 years"; a real man would've done the math first. Besides, at those speeds dodging atoms wouldn't be any more difficult than airplanes today staying clear of birds.
Posted by: blogRot at February 18, 2010 03:11 PM (chysP)
Posted by: Jack M. at February 18, 2010 03:11 PM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:11 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: rightzilla at February 18, 2010 03:11 PM (rVJH4)
Yeah, you got it right. That's where the dilithium crystals come in.
At the risk of showing my inner dork, dilithium crystals are only the conduit not the source of power. The crystals are arranged and calibrated in such a way as to allow for an access to the matter/anti-matter mixture. The warp core is a precisely tuned core of matter and antimatter. The combustion provides the outrageous amounts of energy allowing for the folding or bending of space. If this mixture becomes unbalanced the explosion is terrific explaining why the ability to eject the core is important.
Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2010 03:14 PM (cZlB7)
Posted by: Antibubba at February 18, 2010 03:14 PM (twSJJ)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 03:14 PM (AZGON)
77. any more difficult than airplanes today staying clear of birds.
You try landing the freaking jet on the Hudson next time!
Posted by: capt sullenberger at February 18, 2010 03:14 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: Vile Roman at February 18, 2010 03:20 PM (iBzKc)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:20 PM (Szkjn)
The super star destroyer Executor, never mind the Death Star, would totally destroy the Enterprise.
Hell, Serenity would, too, and IIRC it's unarmed.
(ducks)
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at February 18, 2010 03:21 PM (I7CVO)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:22 PM (Szkjn)
Ace made the Christian Science Monitor
(but they call it Ace of Spaces)
ok, I'm done spamming the threads, now.
Posted by: notropis at February 18, 2010 03:23 PM (RVuYk)
My early bird is waiting for breakfast above your wormhole you geeks.
I had a warmist cite New Scientist to me as a peer reviewed source bwaaaaaah.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2010 03:23 PM (h0RtZ)
Posted by: Neo at February 18, 2010 03:25 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 03:26 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 03:31 PM (UOM48)
hahaha, Piss Matthews is on 'Celebrity' Jeopardy!
What Fucking Bullshit.
Let's see how stupid he is...
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:31 PM (Szkjn)
At the risk of showing my inner dork, dilithium
crystals are only the conduit not the source of power. The crystals are
arranged and calibrated in such a way as to allow for an access to the
matter/anti-matter mixture. The warp core is a precisely tuned core of
matter and antimatter. The combustion provides the outrageous amounts of
energy allowing for the folding or bending of space. If this mixture
becomes unbalanced the explosion is terrific explaining why the ability
to eject the core is important.
Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2010 07:14 PM (cZlB7)
Your inner dork just did a striptease on live TV.
I wasn't saying they were the source of power. They're the source of magicy-type physics that allow you to travel less than the speed of light while cutting 49,990 years off a 50,000 light year trip.
It's like the piezoelectric effect.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:32 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:34 PM (Szkjn)
I know.
I read it.
In
A
Book.
Posted by: shibumi at February 18, 2010 03:34 PM (OKZrE)
I always liked the way the Enterprise would go from standing still to warp 3 in 10 seconds and everyone on the bridge would be pushed back in their seats. LOL.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 03:35 PM (A46hP)
Remember: In space, no one can hear you come
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 18, 2010 03:39 PM (JrRME)
If I had a holodeck, I'd close the door and never come out until I died of exhaustion. It would be hard to convince me I should be anywhere but in the holodeck, getting my oil massage from Cindy Crawford and her simulated twin sister.
In my case, it would be Christina Hendricks. Hadn't thought about two of them, tho. But that's getting into Harvey Mudd territory...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 18, 2010 03:39 PM (1hM1d)
Erm. Quantum physics was part of the Juden physik of Einstein. Also, the Nazis didn't have an available source of dilithium crystals. And they thought Vulcans were untermenschen, which was another stumbling block.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:41 PM (1fanL)
http://tinyurl.com/ygpbe4u
Posted by: ParisParamus at February 18, 2010 03:42 PM (0YPx8)
Posted by: Every 24th Century Folksinger at February 18, 2010 03:42 PM (Ncr1R)
None of you are getting laid again. Ever.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 03:44 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:45 PM (Szkjn)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:46 PM (Szkjn)
"Nifong could not be reached for comment."
Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at February 18, 2010 03:46 PM (F05s+)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 18, 2010 03:47 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:47 PM (Szkjn)
Chris Matthews looks like a total Doofus with almost no points
Not worse than Wolf Blitzer. Is that even possible?
Posted by: FUBAR at February 18, 2010 03:48 PM (1fanL)
We suck at Curling
that is all
It's OK. I'm pretty sure that's not really a "sport," it's just something they include so the non-athletic countries can win something.
Posted by: shibumi at February 18, 2010 03:48 PM (OKZrE)
If it walks like a duck...
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 03:48 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 03:50 PM (UOM48)
George, that claim makes one grand assumption - that any of us got laid in the first place.
/Besides, I've heard that thing's no big deal and that not doing it keeps your blood supply intact longer.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 18, 2010 03:51 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2010 03:51 PM (TWyEi)
Posted by: pendejo grande at February 18, 2010 03:51 PM (ZZf1e)
Matthews just answered a bunch of easy ones about South America and got back in the game. What a joke.
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:51 PM (Szkjn)
I would like to introduce you to my martial friend, General Jack Ripper.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 03:52 PM (AZGON)
Gee. I wonder if the New Scientist believes in and promotes catastrophic, manmade, carbon-caused Global Warming Climate Change?
Posted by: andycanuck at February 18, 2010 03:53 PM (2qU2d)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 03:54 PM (UOM48)
Probably. I did see one Skinemax flick where people were having VR sex (even though it was illegal) and that the villain was killing people via the VR by some device-thingy that activated when, you know..heh.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 18, 2010 03:54 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 03:54 PM (Szkjn)
That's the second time I've done that today. I must learn to control my telepathic signaling.
But I liked the way you framed it, better.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 03:55 PM (A46hP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 03:56 PM (UOM48)
So I was watching Stargate SG1 the other day and they said "inertial dampeners" but the closed captioning said "original dampness".
Snort.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 18, 2010 03:58 PM (Be4xl)
Red shirt security guard: "Hey you took my pudding cup!"
Blue Shirt science officer: "NO I didn't, it ain't YOUR pudding cup, their ain't no money so the concept of you having anything is meaningless. It's everybody's pudding cup!"
Security guard: "WHHHAAAAAAA!" *shoots self in head with disruptor beam*
Posted by: Josh Reiter at February 18, 2010 03:59 PM (Cu8Iw)
Posted by: T'Pooty Poot at February 18, 2010 04:01 PM (hUyhR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:04 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 04:04 PM (Szkjn)
Boring! Besides, Skinemax does not judge.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 18, 2010 04:06 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Phil Jones at February 18, 2010 04:06 PM (PWj+8)
Like "El Sabado Gigante?"
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:07 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 07:57 PM (AZGON)
Ok that movie was weird. And I had to watch it for school.
Posted by: wherestherum at February 18, 2010 04:08 PM (gofDd)
Sorry old boy I am a practising engineer and know what I am talking about.
You are wrong, if a charged particle moves faster in a magnetic field it will deflect more. F= qv x B look at the equation. Also it is a vector cross product so the force will be at right angles to the flow.
In fact the ship would have a bow shock wave in front of it and micro-meteorites would tend to get vaporised anyway. Large boulders (extremely rare) would have to be navigated around.
It is well known that due to the strength of the EM force that we don't routinely find things charged. That is why gravity and inertia effects predominate at large scales - most things are electrically neutral.
The EM force is some 10^42 times stronger than gravitational forces and the slightest charge imbalance would dominate. Yes a large bolder looks terrifying in the realm of every day forces because of it's inertia but if it had charge, the EM forces would push it out of the way like a pebble (mind you, your ship would get a jostling).
I don't like your tone. It is too easy to comment on these lists. Some very sharp people with more degrees than a thermometer comment here and you can't be one of them because you don't even know basic theory or what is correct.
I have to say too, that it is the loon squad, the dreamers (with the correct education) that make the future for all the mediocrities to then go tsck! that's obvious.
This is not just science fiction but some very good people are in the field.
The amount of nerdness in the comments section is, like, 1018 beyond any previously known.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 18, 2010 04:08 PM (I30wK)
We have assumed control.
We have assumed control.
We have assumed control.
Posted by: Where's your warp drive now, assholes? at February 18, 2010 04:08 PM (gXNe5)
Are you serious? I cannot watch that guy, but I had no idea he was so full of crap. You might think he would appreciate that CPAC attendees are not spinning their opinion of Barry and being forthright.
Oh yeah, we're talking about the master of self-serving spin, O'Reilly.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:10 PM (AZGON)
Yeah, but at least I've seen a woman naked, Poindexter. In real life.
Posted by: Vile Roman at February 18, 2010 04:11 PM (iBzKc)
Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 18, 2010 04:11 PM (Szkjn)
The Germans, however, look like dudes.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 18, 2010 04:12 PM (gXNe5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:12 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: OCBill at February 18, 2010 04:13 PM (WGXy4)
Like Democrats, IOW.
Posted by: Vile Roman at February 18, 2010 04:14 PM (iBzKc)
The degree of nerdiness here is approaching aleph-zero, the first transfinite cardinal number. What a bunch of geeks you are.
Uh oh, wait a minute...
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:15 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Fritz Lang at February 18, 2010 04:17 PM (YCVBL)
Word. They are way more risk using the Impulse Engines at relativistic speeds. Hence, the Main Deflector Dish.
Posted by: toby928: Not a Nerd, a Geek at February 18, 2010 04:18 PM (PD1tk)
Metropolis was certainly worth shit.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 18, 2010 04:19 PM (gXNe5)
Posted by: Jules Verne at February 18, 2010 04:19 PM (AZGON)
Not long ago I saw a 'research paper' on the 'White Male power structure of the ( original ) Enterprise". Radical left Nerds.........
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 18, 2010 04:22 PM (JrRME)
Like Democrats, IOW.
Posted by: Vile Roman
No, if the Borg were Democrats they'd coast endlessly across the universe in a planet-sized clown car because their tax supply ran out.
Posted by: Iskandar at February 18, 2010 04:23 PM (/o58C)
Posted by: Dr. Zachary Smith at February 18, 2010 04:24 PM (AZGON)
O'Reilly has totally lost it. I know it won't happen, but I'd love to see him replaced. I happen to think that the 8pm numbers wouldn't drop too much. If Red Eye at 3am is beating all of CNN's prime time, then I have to think that an O'Reilly replacement would still pull the same numbers. It's the time slot more than the personality, at this point.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 04:24 PM (A46hP)
And yet the warp core ejectors are always offline when they are needed. No doubt they are designed by Toyota.
Posted by: toby928: Not a Nerd, a Geek at February 18, 2010 04:25 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: evil libertarian at February 18, 2010 04:27 PM (W6gtk)
The Enterprise wouldn't last 10 seconds against a Star Destroyer.
and Star Destroyers laugh at your puny hydrogen atoms.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 18, 2010 04:28 PM (T1boi)
Posted by: Poul Anderson at February 18, 2010 04:28 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:29 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: inquiring sexaholics want to know at February 18, 2010 04:32 PM (Vu6sl)
(Hugs Dick Cheney doll)
Posted by: arhooley at February 18, 2010 04:33 PM (v5tEZ)
Esoteric? Esoteric? You keep using that word. It does not mean what you think it means.
Posted by: Inigo Nerd Montoya at February 18, 2010 04:33 PM (AZGON)
Talking Memo reports Reid is circulating a letter asking for the public option to be put back in the Senate bill, and Schumer is behind it too.
No word about tissue replicators, though.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:35 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: toby928: Not a Nerd, a Geek at February 18, 2010 04:36 PM (PD1tk)
I'm too lazy and disinterested in this topic to read the thread (sorry), but I'm going with what is: "hike the Appalachian Trail"?
Posted by: Gloria Allred at February 18, 2010 04:36 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: inquiring sexaholics want to know at February 18, 2010 08:32 PM (Vu6sl)
Your orgasm lasts forever.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 04:36 PM (A46hP)
Your penis contracts to infinitesimal length. So don't say we didn't warn you.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:38 PM (AZGON)
O'Reilly promptly followed that up by getting his garters wound up saying the Oath Keepers held "a pretty radical position" by following the Second Amendment and not confiscating guns from lawful citizens. Katrina came up, for example, and O'Reilly was critical because the Oath Keepers weren't willing to confiscate due to bad weather or any other government-stated "emergency."
O'Reilly is yet again behind the curve in "looking out for the folks."
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2010 04:38 PM (swuwV)
Did anyone see the pic of her hubby? I am betting she used a strap on on that puss looking pussy.
Posted by: Kemp at February 18, 2010 04:39 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:39 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:40 PM (AZGON)
So that's why women don't swallow?
Posted by: Kemp at February 18, 2010 04:41 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Poul Anderson at February 18, 2010 04:42 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: arhooley at February 18, 2010 04:42 PM (v5tEZ)
So that's why women don't swallow?
Winner winner, astronaut dinner
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jane D'oh goddess in the bedroom at February 18, 2010 04:44 PM (UOM48)
I think our two posts about sex at the speed of light illustrate the stark difference between an optimistic view and a pessimistic one 
For the record, the limit of (the infinite orgasm/the infinitesimal dick) has been calculated ( I forget the episode) and is greater than 0. So, in toto, it's a good deal. And if you do it perpendicular to the ship's movement, it gets even better.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 04:45 PM (A46hP)
ops:Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:46 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:48 PM (AZGON)
Victor Davis Hanson thinks once Barry's numbers poll below forty percent, the lamestream will turn on him as a loser. I'm not so sure. It is religion with them, and turning on a Historical Black Man? I dunno...
Well, cognitive dissonance is a way of life for them, so I'm sure they could find a way to work it out. You know, like how those racist teabaggers couldn't deal with him as a black man and so he started forgetting his roots and just wasn't the same any more.
If warming can cause snow, no other facts will stand in the way of whatever narrative they come up with.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 18, 2010 04:48 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:49 PM (UOM48)
Strange. And I thought "Sideways" was a movie about winos.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:49 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rewrite! at February 18, 2010 04:51 PM (d7Px0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:51 PM (UOM48)
Tell everyone here there's a link upthread to a picture of Palin dressed as Barbarella, and Pixy will get slammed with a thousand page reloads.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 04:52 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:54 PM (UOM48)
I'm just too annoyed by the whole "Tea Baggers are to blame" meme.
Filthy liars. And not in a good way.
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 18, 2010 04:57 PM (Be4xl)
I don't believe it.
I work with a bunch of media type Obama whores, and they are still worshipping him like their Golden Idol. Plus... these guys would have to admit they were wrong. And we all know they do not want to do that under any circumstances.
Posted by: shibumi at February 18, 2010 04:58 PM (OKZrE)
It wuz joke; you no like joke?
DId I use that word before--or wuz you joking?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 18, 2010 04:59 PM (JrRME)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 04:59 PM (UOM48)
The closer you get to light speed, the "denser" the space appears. But that also depends on your size. Photons obviously get here from far away places so space really can't be "infinitely dense" at that speed to a photon. The reason is that the atoms are spread far apart so something as small as a photon misses most of them. So space appears nearly a vacuum to a photon no matter how fast it travels because it is unlikely to hit anything.
Funny thing happens when you get to the speed of light, though. Your time stops. So what seems like a millisecond to you is all of eternity for someone on Earth. So as soon as you hit light speed, the universe would come to an end for you because there would be no way for you to stop in time to avoid it. 0 units of your time would equal infinite units of earth time.
A photon knows no time because it IS time. For example. Say you have an object in space. Suddenly a massive object materializes out of thin space 1 light year away. The first object will not be gravitationally influenced by the second object until 1 year of the first object's time passes because the second object does not exist until that time. The first object can only be influenced by the second object only after it exists in the time reference of the first object.
That is why you can't travel faster than light. You can not be someplace before you exist there.You would have to be two different people because if you could travel faster than light, you would be able to turn around and see yourself coming (sort of like those mirrors on the ceiling at a cheap hotel).
One's existence travels outward from them at the speed of light. People two light years from you see you as two years younger than you are now. But you can't go backward in time because you can't go slower than "stop".
I'll have another one of those bon bon's now.
Posted by: crosspatch at February 18, 2010 05:00 PM (ZbLJZ)
I tend to agree. I can't see who could replace him as The Hero in the eyes of the lamestream media. I suspect they will double-down on worship of Teleprompter Jesus in 2012. Yes, it is possible to be more bootlicking than they were in 2008. The lamestream is nothing if not creative.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 05:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: toby928 at February 18, 2010 05:01 PM (PD1tk)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 18, 2010 08:59 PM (JrRME)
Me joking 
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 05:01 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Rod Rooter at February 18, 2010 05:03 PM (0jQy3)
Posted by: Original Mikey at February 18, 2010 05:03 PM (TJoID)
Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2010 05:03 PM (cZlB7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:04 PM (UOM48)
One's existence travels outward from them at the speed of light. People two light years from you see you as two years younger than you are now. But you can't go backward in time because you can't go slower than "stop".
I see you've read my book.
Posted by: Poul Anderson at February 18, 2010 05:04 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2010 05:04 PM (a9UO0)
Oh, I don't know about creative.
I'm thinking they're going to go for the "you're a hater/racist if you don't support Obama" line in 2012, and combine it with "Republicans are sex perverts/Illuminati who want to take all your money and crush you beneath their expensive wing tips."
Or something like that.
Posted by: shibumi at February 18, 2010 05:05 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at February 18, 2010 05:05 PM (rQTdM)
And now, back to your regularly programmed nerd stuff.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:06 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at February 18, 2010 05:07 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:08 PM (UOM48)
1) The fastest a starship ever travels in Einsteinian ("normal") space-time is .75c, or three-quarters of light-speed. This is stipulated precisely to avoid relativistic time dilation effects and, presumably, to avoid instantly reducing the crew to several hundred charcoal briquettes, just in case the deflector shields go on the fritz at an inconvenient moment.
2) Warp drive itself isn't a "drive" per se, but a means of "jumping" into an alternate continuum ("subspace" - aka The Ultimate Scientific McGuffin) where the speed of light is, like, way-far higher than in "normal" space-time. This jump can be made from the aforementioned .75c without bulldozing all the way up to .9999999etc of light-speed because the energy necessary to make the jump is proportionately less than to reach light-speed in "normal" space-time (i.e. infinite).
3) Accordingly, the amount of time it takes to go from .75c to "Ludicrous Speed" is Planck's Constant, which doesn't leave enough time for a light tan, much less seven teraelectron volts.
What Edelstein is saying is simple: "Zefram Cochrane, you're our only hope!" And he's probably right. But he'd be better off avoiding attempts to make astrophysics more accessible by resorting to analogies of which he is woefully ignorant.
Posted by: JASmius at February 18, 2010 05:09 PM (m4hfi)
Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2010 05:09 PM (cZlB7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:10 PM (UOM48)
Instapundit links to a study about teenagers not getting enough "blue light".
The article says
"According to our study, however, the situation in schools can be changed rapidly by the conscious delivery of daylight, which is saturated with short-wavelength, or blue, light," reports Dr. Figueiro.
Call me a bitchy homeschooler, but I yelled "or go out in the fucking sun" at my computer...
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 18, 2010 05:12 PM (Be4xl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:12 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 05:13 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at February 18, 2010 05:13 PM (rQTdM)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 09:12 PM (UOM4
I agree. I can't imagine what he would say that would interest anyone. Unless he's going to show home movies of his trysts as he narrates the action. Otherwise, he should just play golf and shut up.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 18, 2010 05:14 PM (A46hP)
Posted by: AngelEm at February 18, 2010 05:15 PM (hvXfO)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2010 05:16 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:17 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Scott B at February 18, 2010 05:19 PM (kTTiP)
Wait... was that Cochrane or Amy Bishop?
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2010 05:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Capt. Kirk at February 18, 2010 05:21 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Capt. Kirk at February 18, 2010 05:22 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 05:25 PM (dQdrY)
Never !! and lips that touch liqour shall never touch mine....
Posted by: Sheppard Smith at February 18, 2010 05:25 PM (JrRME)
Bah, they traded it away in the Treaty of Algeron.
Posted by: toby928 at February 18, 2010 05:26 PM (PD1tk)
Teh Real Ho's series just proves, all the fake boobies and money in the world can't buy brains or class. And the men who accompany these twits are real prizes, too.
Woot!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2010 05:26 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Sheppard Smith at February 18, 2010 09:25 PM (JrRME)
If it weren't for booze, most morons would never get laid. Viva tequila!
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 05:27 PM (dQdrY)
After tequila they wouldn't remember it. So booze really doesn't help in this situation.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2010 05:44 PM (swuwV)
246 The federation, apparently run by liberals, decided that it would be WRONG to have cloaking devices because they are unfair!
Bah, they traded it away in the Treaty of Algeron
Well , crap. I knew that once. I still think Obama somehow gave it away to screw Poland.
Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2010 05:44 PM (cZlB7)
Posted by: eman at February 18, 2010 05:55 PM (4tixt)
"If it weren't for booze, most morons would never get laid."
That's not true. Quite a few morons pay for sex.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at February 18, 2010 05:55 PM (/6+MZ)
Dr. Michio Kaku already showed us how to use a large enough mass to warp space time in order to time travel on his Science Physics of the Impossible series..... he even proved you could do it without so much as a scratch.... so I'm not worried about radiation exposure induced from hydrogen.
The Science Channel has a replay on Feb. 18th @ 4:30am. "How To Build A Starship"
Anything Dr. Kaku say's is word. The trekkies are just getting in a bunch over nothing.... knuckleheads.
Posted by: Last Conservative In Brooklyn at February 18, 2010 05:56 PM (7uAeI)
That's not true. Quite a few morons pay for sex.
Posted by: Dirk Diggler at February 18, 2010 09:55 PM (/6+MZ)
At least a million jobs saved right there. Viva dollars!
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 06:01 PM (dQdrY)
Oh man, I'm sitting here reading this, with my boy watching Star Trek reruns over my shoulder, because his dad got him hooked on Star Trek...what in dibbley damned double puck it all is the overwhelming attraction of that show (it's ok entertainment and all, certainly better than a lot of things out there, but why the obsession)?
This is one of those mysteries of the universe the answer to which will always be withheld isn't it?
Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2010 06:19 PM (5/yRG)
All the Trek spin-offs had to go to war to maintain viewership. Alien babes and big guns is all you really need to keep a guy's attention.
Space... the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before. That's guy crack, right there. Plus green chicks and guns.Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 06:45 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 07:04 PM (dQdrY)
Besides...what friggin TOOL would get Star Trek 'The New Generation" confused with 'classic' original Star Trek. Wait until I tell Barry about this one... He's gonna laugh.....in that better than thou, I'm a rock star politician kinda way.
Posted by: Michell 'Warf' Obama at February 18, 2010 07:37 PM (92L1I)
In other words, the speed of light exists because gravity exists and gravity exists because entropy exists and entropy exists because matter always wants to return to its most chaotic state.
The whole point of "warp" speed is NOT that you are traveling faster than the speed of light in REAL space, but that you are creating a quantum "bubble" in which you ar traveling OUTSIDE of real space.
That being the case, whatever matter (your spaceship) was traveling inside that bubble could travel MUCH faster than light because, in a sense, you aren't "traveling" at all. You are simply "here" and then you are "there" without traversing the real space in between.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at February 18, 2010 07:51 PM (kEBiX)
Posted by: Crusty at February 18, 2010 08:10 PM (LGTLf)
Spock: It warps! And that's just the fucking way it is!
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at February 18, 2010 08:49 PM (Do528)
Posted by: skwiself at February 18, 2010 10:28 PM (lDxdT)
I still haven't learned which is better; a hyperdrive or a warpdrive?
Posted by: Fritz at February 19, 2010 03:51 AM (GwPRU)
Light has a "speed" in the first place because it is the border at which matter becomes energy (or quantum soup) which is a form of entropy (returning to its native state).
And I'm guessing you don't have to be a math wiz to figure out there ain't a whole lot of illegal aliens flooding across that border. Would be nice to get a little entropy built into our system and start returning some of them to their native state.
In other words, the speed of light exists because gravity exists and gravity exists because entropy exists and entropy exists because matter always wants to return to its most chaotic state.
Ok, what was that middle part again?
That being the case, whatever matter (your spaceship) was traveling inside that bubble could travel MUCH faster than light because, in a sense, you aren't "traveling" at all.
This sounds eerily familiar... say, do you work for the CBO by chance? Are you one of those guys who did the "math" and determined the health care bill was "deficit neutral"?
You are simply "here" and then you are "there" without traversing the real space in between.
Forever rendering moot the question, are we their yet?
Posted by: Redneck Klingon at February 19, 2010 04:48 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 19, 2010 04:49 AM (pZEar)
Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 19, 2010 05:46 AM (O9Cc8)
Posted by: Commander Datum at February 19, 2010 07:59 AM (ClZ5D)
The federation, apparently run by liberals,
Of course it is run by the liberals. The whole earth government is run by liberals, they've 'eliminated' poverty, fercryin'outloud.
Posted by: always right at February 19, 2010 08:55 AM (UzjcV)
figured some of you morons would get off on this subject.
I belive the correct terminology in this instance would be GEEKS, with NERDS considered an acceptable alternative.
Posted by: Forty Two at February 19, 2010 09:46 AM (EnDYW)
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