1 Will they give Liu a pass too?

I'm sure Lindsay will.  This appears to be one nominee who should NOT make it out of committee. 

This is another example of why we should NEVER back RINOs regardless of State.

2

"all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up."

 

To whom are we to give it?  Certainly not to anyone alive ("all modern Americans").

3 I'd like to see some Repub play this clip at his hearing and point out that in his mind he's already convicted millions of innocent people.  How does he respond to that?

4 My guess is yes, they will.  I don't know what it is about the modern Republican party, they are utterly terrified of the media.    The media control what the public sees and hears, yes, but that doesn't mean they have to shape the narrative too.  Republicans don't seem to care that their rolling over and caving in will never get them good reviews from the MSM. 

5
The Obama administration wants to bleed us dry.

6 Do I get a pass from the reparations?  My family didn't come to America until after slavery was over.  Or am I guilty because I'm white?

7 # 3

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8

Oh I expect the Republicans in the Senate to totally roll over for this guy.  Maybe one or two biting questions, tops.  He'll sail through. 

Though at the risk of sounding like a jackass, Asians seem to have the hardest time playing the race card, so there's much less of a chance of press going ape like there would have been going after a "wise Latina."

9 Is he talking about the "black" slave trade? the Chinese slave trade? or what? and I am pretty sure my poor Irish ancestors who came to this country never had any slaves and I don't remember any. Hey my family may have even been slaves somewhere - I am sick of hearing about this.

10 Isn't living in America rather than Africa restitution enough?

11
Yeah - but I'd rather have "Rino" McCain making these judicial selections than Obama.

12 I agree that they should play this video at his hearings.

13 I thought it was OK to be racist towards Asians? Heck, the blacks and latinos are kicking the shit out of them in the high schools.

14 I've got a suggestion for Mr. Liu and anyone else who wants reparations paid. Get the @!#&! out of my country. 600,000 men died to end slavery in America. The debt has been paid. In blood.

15 Will they give Liu a pass too?

I'd ask Lindsey Graham or John McCain, but they would just accuse me of being a racist again.

16 Cornyn is one of my senators and I've always thought well of him but that may change. if he doesn't find a way to make his mouth work and his vocal chords resonate he also will be looking for a new job.

17

How can a Republican talk about race without being tarred as David Duke? This is the burning question.

I'm tired of giving things up, voluntarily or otherwise.  

18

 Will they give Liu a pass too?

Hey, it's not even 9 am CST and I've run across the Dumbest Question of the Day.

No, that's not directed at the author but at the sackless members of Congress who just can't man up enough to DO THEIR G-D JOBS.

And why yes, I WILL continue to ride the Rs.  They're not the enemy but they do continue to be the freakin' problem.

19 Racism: Judging people by the color of their skin Justice: Forcing people to pay for crimes they did not commit to people who were not the victims of those crimes, because of the color of their skin. Both based on the color of their skin. This ain't right.

20 Anyone who subscribes to a theory of holding 21st century people financially liable for actions performed by 17th century foreigners is clinically insane.

The fact that he is even under consideration should tell you what a pile of freaking idiots we have in Washington now.

21

My family suffered dearly in the effort to free all slaves--does that mean that all modern blacks owe me reparations for pain and suffering my ancestors went through?  After all, their standard of living would be far worse now had we not succeeded.

BTW--name one ethnic group, race, or whatever you wnat to call it, that HASN'T been victims of slavery at some point in history.  Maybe we should stop looking backwards...

22 Since I'm the grandson of someone who worked in British India, can I earmark my reparations payments to the Indian-American community? I'll still be out a shitload of money, but at least I know that it will be invested wisely.

23 I thought it was OK to be racist towards Asians? Heck, the blacks and latinos are kicking the shit out of them in the high schools.

And the district does its best to cover it up. See South Philadelphia high school

24 Yeah - but I'd rather have "Rino" McCain making these judicial selections than Obama.

Yeah. He'd have picked a Mexican guy who says the same shit, and when we opposed him, McCain have called us all racists himself, instead of using media surrogates. Because he's honorable like that.

25 I'd love for some of these elistist libs to move out of their segregated neighborhoods....you know, the gated communities and areas of high-value that block out the more unsavory elements...and into the ghetto. If they survived, I'm sure their point of view might change (or they may pull a Fisk, and accept the beatings in the name of liberalism).

26 I'm white, and my ancestors were much more likely to have been slaves than to have owned them.

They were mostly Krauts from the northern border area of the Roman Empire and some Irish too.  Were any of them enslaved?  Probably.  Then some of 'em eventually came to PA to milk cows, not own slaves.

I sent a letter to Rome looking for my money, but I haven't heard back yet.

27 Will they give Liu a pass too? My guess is, no; he is not a preferred minority. Same as my Irish indentured servant ancestors.

28 My mom has been on a genealogy kick lately and just discovered that I'm 1/8 Cree Indian.

Pay up white men for the damage you inflicted upon me!

And oh yeah, where's my damn casino?

29 My mom has been on a genealogy kick lately and just discovered that I'm 1/8 Cree Indian.

Did you enter Native American on your census form?

30 all modern non-black Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up. All modern *black* (and red, and yellow, and...) Americans benefit from the slave trade that built America as well-- and none of them were ever slaves.

31 6 Do I get a pass from the reparations?  My family didn't come to America until after slavery was over.  Or am I guilty because I'm white?

Posted by: Blogluddite at March 23, 2010 09:52 AM (fDWFP)

Hell, you're racist for even asking the question, cracker.

32 Given that my taxes already go services that I don't use, and in Philadelphia go disproportionately towards black people, can I conclude that I've already paid up. I'm already subsidizing their housing, food, trash, energy, swimming pools, libraries, playgrounds and community centers.

What else do they want?

33 I'd love for some of these elistist libs to move out of their segregated neighborhoods....you know, the gated communities and areas of high-value that block out the more unsavory elements...and into the ghetto.


Oh, me too.  When I first moved to Milwaukee, I met a lot of people who liked to think they "cared" about black people who never set foot on the north side (where I worked at the time--stopped counting the drug-related murder count along my commute after the first year). 

White "Caring" Scrunt: "Milwaukee is SO segregated, it's really a shame."
Me: "Rent's pretty cheap down around Capitol and Teutonia--when are you moving there?"
White "Caring" Scrunt: *gasp* "Oh, *I* can't live there, it's not safe."
Me: "Yeah, that's really a shame." 

34 Does anyone remember the good old days when this "reparations" crap first got started. The idea was ridiculed, even in the liberal press.

There was simply no legal basis for it at all. Nothing has really changed other than we have an openly racist organization in congress operating with impunity who is pushing it.

35 Excuse me but I've not only had an ancestor in every war the US has ever fought, I had some in the French/Indian war. I would also like reparations for my ancestors having to marry whites or get rounded up by Andrew Jackson. Oh, and for burning the south. That sucked. Being the poor white trash that settled the frontier wasn't exactly the nicest life either. They fuking walked to oregon, hated it and WALKED back to the mississippi.

36 10 Isn't living in America rather than Africa restitution enough?

Posted by: Mal at March 23, 2010 09:53 AM (Z+qzA)

Good point, if there's anything I would agree to do for reparations, (despite my having absolutely no reason to owe anyone anything at all) it would be to give ANYone who doesn't appreciate what they have here (at least up until this weekend) a one way ticket to whatever country in Africa they wish to light upon.

They will pass this guy along, and it is a tragedy that is continually unfolding since Nov 5th 2008.

37

How about a gold plated railroad spike? Will Liu STFU then?

38 My ancestor was blinded during the Civil War fighting against the South.  It impoverished his wife and children.  It took two generations for them to recover.  Where are my reparations.

39 At least Lui wont pull the ninth circuit any further left.

40 Get the @!#&! out of my country. 600,000 men died to end slavery in America. The debt has been paid. In blood. posted by Brian

One of my ancestors died at Gettysburg fighting against the south....our family's restitution has been paid.  He was 20  years old with a wife and 3 small children - paid and done.

41 If any GOP creature goes along with anything ( short of national defense) that this admin wants to do and that includes nominies, we vote them out to

42

How about the blacks in this country whose ancestry does not descend through slavery?

Come from the Caribbean--not American slavery--or directly from Africa after our Civil War.

Try some math. Figure the North had 300,000 dead and, arbitrarily, the same number crippled so that they were never economically productive.  Figure that if the average guy lived and produced to sixty and generated, one way or another, over his lifetime, $2000 of surplus.  That's $120,000,000 by the time they passed on, say by 1900. Compound that by 4%.  That's about $7700 million dollars we don't have on account of the efforts to free the slaves.

(Somebody recheck my math.  Substitute your own figures for surplus and ages and what not.  A huge number.)

Add in transfer payments.

Who owes whom?

43

Taylork, I'm in South Philly. I know all about the "brothas and sistas running the city" (former Mayor Street's term, not mine).

I know that commenting on these types of threads are like walking a tightrope.I really, realy try to treat people as I wish to be treated. But it gets tougher every day living with the low-level hostility. And lateley, around here, the level has spiked, witness South Street the other night. My rural and suburban friends always tell me that I'm crazy to stay in the city.....I honestly prefer urban life to the countryside...but it is getting harder to justify staying here, especially with 2 young kids.

44 Jesus, I cannot fathom having my whole existance eaten up with hand wringing about racial 'injustice'. The fact that 50 years after civil rights legislation, some still need a 'helping hand' and scapegoat for their failures says a lot more than race mongers like this bastard would care to admit. I owe not a damn thing to anyone.

45

Will they give Liu a pass too?

Sure! Exhuming Bull Connor is the surest way to cut off debate. A straw Bull Connor seems to work just as well.

46

Heh, heh, heh.   Little do you realize - your total destruction is imminent.

http://tinyurl.com/yfe4jpt

And you thought he was insane.

47 Shrink at charges or racism like salted snails? That's Old Republica.

I'm looking at the new guys (Bachman, Palin,  Ryan, Kantor, Rubio, maybe Pence) to stare down the real racists (Liu, Sotomayor, Obama, Holder). Too bad none of them are in the Senate, but their time for higher office is coming.

Words I want to hear on the campaign trail:

Race-based special-interest group: "What are you going to do for us?"
Republican candidate: "The same I'll do for every other group; get out of your way so you can enjoy America's opportunities."

48 Sorry - last post via HotAir

49 My ancestor was blinded during the Civil War fighting against the South.  It impoverished his wife and children.  It took two generations for them to recover.  Where are my reparations. posted by Jack

We are still racists by their estimation just by the color of our skin.  What is the definition of a racist/bigot again????

50 Taylork, I'm in South Philly. I know all about the "brothas and sistas running the city" (former Mayor Street's term, not mine).\

Me too. (SWCC techincally). We need to get a moron meeting organized some time.

51

Bet when Stevens retires this guy is on the short list for a SC post.  A hardcore lefty, and the first Asian?  Be hard to pass up.  If he was gay I'd say he was a lock.

52 @44

And FYI, I can't even tell you some of the crap about the South Philly stuff or I'll risk my job.

53 Considering how much discrimination Asian Americans face, both because they are not Black, Latino, or American Indian (Asians far more than whites face huge discrimination in academic places) because of the model minority crap and from all the people, including the above, who think they are all soulless grinds who are seriously uncool to be around, I think it is pretty impressive that Liu wants to further this. The "self hating Jew" is famous, the "self hating asian" is a special creation of the American educational establishment. When I lived in San Francisco I always loved the yuppie professional asian americans who lectured first generation immigrants who worked 80 hours a week about how they needed to subordinate there kids education to the cause of "social justice"

54 Damn it Hussein. At least put a warning up before you link to something written by olberdouche.

55 Question Professor Gabe:

In addition to her racial and gender bias SoSo Sotomayor seemed to me like a 2nd rate intellect. Liu is blatantly worse in terms of bias but he is a professor. Is he any better intellectually. I have seen some interviews and testimony from him but he's doesn't tie it to the law well. Is he any better on the law or does he just parrot the talking points?

56 It has been said by others, but just to add my two cents:

"Will they give Liu a pass?" For most of them, the answer is: Of Course! They are big-league, big-time Republicans. It's simply what they do. 

57 Will all white people please leave now?

58

Does anyone remember the good old days when this "reparations" crap first got started. The idea was ridiculed, even in the liberal press.

So was "animal rights." But the left consists of intellectual invertebrates, so no idea is too dumb for them.

59

Will they give Liu a pass too?

Sure.  Why risk offending any racial, religious or ethnic group?   Except, of course, white males.

 

60

He looks too Asian-y for a black man.

61 My first ancestor in the colonies was an illegal immigrant. He did a term of indentured servitude as punishment for stowing away on a ship. He was white (probably, he was German). What's my share?

62 Well, I guess Liu can give up being on the Ninth Circuit as reperation.

63 Will they give Liu a pass too?

Oh, absolutely.

64 I so tire of this. But not so tired to remind Mr. Liu of the responsibility for his heritage and the slaughter of millions of people.  He should sell all of his assets, distribute them to charity, cross the ocean and kiss the ass of every chinese, viet, tiawanese, japanese and mongolian and apologize to each and everyone of them.  Then he may be forgiven.

65

55 Damn it Hussein. At least put a warning up before you link to something written by olberdouche.

All part of the sinister plan, my man - all part of the plan.

66 In addition to her racial and gender bias SoSo Sotomayor seemed to me like a 2nd rate intellect. Liu is blatantly worse in terms of bias but he is a professor. Is he any better intellectually.

Of course he is, everybody knows Asians are smarter than Latinos.That's why the Latino students are always beating up Asian students.

67 You know, Liu's right. When I think about all the abuse my Irish ancestors put their slaves through on their tenant farm in County Cavan before the Brits threw them off the land and my great grandfather had to flee the his own country one step ahead of the hangman ... OH, bullshit. I have more in common culturally with the slaves than that chainsmoking drunk in the White House... Do not confirm Liu.

68 As to what to give up how about this: All those Gerrymandered districts meant to help with minority representation are now off limits to liberal white women.

69 How about a gold plated railroad spike? Will Liu STFU then?

Depends on where you put it.

70 I say this, at the risk of being banned here.

Surrender this...]


Yeah, dumbass, if you knew you risked being banned, ya shouldn't done it. Ya fuckin' goof. Consider yourself warned. If I see it again, there will be bannanations. -GM

71 Personally, I think Liu may have to give up his Appeals Court seat. It's a blow, but hey, we all have to give up something.

72 In addition to her racial and gender bias SoSo Sotomayor seemed to me like a 2nd rate intellect.

Posted by: Rocks at March 23, 2010 10:27 AM (Y8smK)

What would make you say that?  Just because she thought that Spanish didn't have adjectives (while she was already at Princeton!) or didn't know the difference between "eminent" and "imminent" doesn't mean that she wasn't qualified to rule on Constitutional language ...  Sotomayor has empathy (another word she doesn't undrstand, no doubt) so she doesn't need any language skills. 

73
Until November, we are f***ed.

If people lose interest in politics, then after November we will still be f***ed.

The only way to stop Obama, is to stop his power; and in 2012, get him the hell out of there.

74 I think there are a few Philly morons, and some more within driving distance. I wouldn't mind putting together a meet-up.

75 I say this, at the risk of being banned here.

Not cool dude.  That's exactly the kind of shit that paints the rest of with MSM meme, jackass.

Clean up in aisle 71.

76

Chuck Todd's twitter;

Speaker Pelosi, so far, is highest ranking US official to hold a photo-op w/Netanyahu this week. 1 hour ago via mobile web

Gibbs said the POTUS and Israeli PM Netanyahu will not appear publicly together; 2nd stright time he's come to WH w/o public appearance about 19 hours ago via mobile web

 

guess, dissing our Allies is all the rage now.

77 grrr, RE Gateway Pundit re chuck todd's twitter

78 There will come a day when the line will be crossed.
I do not know the event or the time of its coming but it will come and when that does it will not be pretty.
That's the trouble with tyrannical governments, they never know where that line is, but there is always a line.

79 Not cool dude. That's exactly the kind of shit that paints the rest of with MSM meme, jackass. Clean up in aisle 71.

Meh, Some of us, haven't forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941. Some have, and we're worse off for it.

80 I have a relative who was an abolitionist lawyer in Connecticut who defended the Amistad slaves.  Where are my legal fees that they never paid?  I'll be waiting by the mailbox for my check, with 160 years of accruing interest.

Also, my great great grandmother was a full blooded American Indian.  Where's my money (and my casino)?

81 I will be pushing Canada and England for reparations, as they kicked my coon-ass ancestors out of Acadia in 1855. I'm also pissed at Liu's people for losing my favorite suit jacket in 2007. I believe reparations are also in order, there. I had my tickee, where's my fucking laundry?

82 There will come a day when the line will be crossed.

11:15 a.m. Eastern today.

83

71.  well that was icky.

 

 

84 If we are going back in time to blame modern people for past problems, the chinese had one of the most advanced early civilizations and Liu has a lot to answer for.  His guilt must be overbearing.

85 Correction - the Acadian expulsion was 1755.

86 It was 1855 when I first learned I am immortal. I get mixed up sometimes.

87

Gibbs said the POTUS and Israeli PM Netanyahu will not appear publicly together; 2nd stright time he's come to WH w/o public appearance about 19 hours ago via mobile web

 

guess, dissing our Allies is all the rage now.

Obama's probably afraid that Netanyahu would kick the shit out of him.  I'd pay to see that!

88 Meh, Some of us, haven't forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941.

Wasn't that the day the Civil War started?

89

I really, realy try to treat people as I wish to be treated. But it gets tougher every day living with the low-level hostility. And lateley, around here, the level has spiked, witness South Street the other night.

 

My friend just sent that to me, a NE Philly native now living in the midstate:

 

...Last spring, several people were injured when at least 100 people converged on the area. A 54-year-old man riding his bicycle home from work was **critically injured when he beaten** during the May 30 episode. In addition, a cabdriver was assaulted and robbed nearby and two people were pulled from a vehicle on Broad Street and **assaulted and robbed.**

 

My response -- PA to Philadelphia: Go to hell, animals.

 

90 anyone else having a problem getting Powerline?

91 Meh, Some of us, haven't forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941. Wasn't that the day the Civil War started? No, it's when the Chinese sank the Lusitania.

92 Many free blacks owned slaves. Not all white southern farmers were slave owners.

Just some thoughts to ponder when dealing with retards like this.

93 A friend of mine who used to travel to Africa on business was flying out of some shithole airport after having been abused by the semi-literate thugs that pass as airport security. The elegant black woman sitting next to him, who apparently had to deal with much the same thing, said to him as the plane left the ground, "thank god for slavery."

94 I'm half Sicilian. I'm going to sue the whole friggin world for reparations, most especially Africans. And rappers for using the word n*gger as it's offensive to me because my ancestors were called that long before any African American ever was.

95 The very idea that this idiot could be nominated as a federal judge just screams about the need for an Article V convention.

96 No Sicilian ever called me "honkey."

97 Some think my whole species was exterminated by you war-mongering modern humans!

Where's my reparations? And the secret of fire is not enough!

98 Will they give Liu a pass too?

Yes.  No question about it.

99 Plus let's not forget that we gave them CHRISTIANITY , that has to be worth something.

100

Reparations are blatently unconstitutional. There is no other way to put it.

There is absolutely no legal basis for them, in any way, shape or form. Furthermore, any attempt to create a legal argument for them should be exposed as the racist tactic that it is.

I'd like to see a Congresscritter go after this little guy in hearings when he brings this up. Grill him as to which specific piece of law permits this and why he's openly advocating something that's illegal. Then ask him how, with his obviously intellectually limited and uninformed opinions, he considers himself qualified for a judgeship.

101 Don't forget his predilection for calling anyone who disagrees with him a racist!

102

The debt has been paid. In blood.

Damn straight, and they included a bunch of my distant relatives who were never slave owners.  When is someone going to shut down the race-baiting industry that is ruining this country?  If you are having trouble locating it, I believe it is headquartered in DC, and is known as The Democratic Party Inc., operating under the business name "Shakedowns R' Us".

103 Meh, Some of us, haven't forgotten what happened on Dec 7, 1941. Some have, and we're worse off for it.

You're an Ass. I guess the irony of impugning people who had nothing to do with that event on the same thread as we bitch about reparations is totally lost on you.

104 Reparations?  Just net out the cost of the Civil War in lives, money, and property.  Then subtract out the cost of all transfer payments, the value of all the racial preferences (how much is a free ride at Harvard, again?), and see if they can come up with a number.  Then we can at least say no to a specific value.

105 I'll give this sumbitch 40 acres and a mule--and teach the mule to kick him in the ass.  On a daily basis.  If not more often.

106 I've been talking about secession since the election in 2008, when it seemed clear to me that the vote for the Indonesian Imbecile was a declaration of national suicide and the despicable fool was going to push this nation to the brink in his efforts to exact revenge on us for humiliating his third world brethren with our intelligence, productivity and advancements.  It's coming.  There is no way to live with these people.  No way, at all.They are out to foment racial animus in this nation (as we saw pushed during the Town Halls and that they are being very successful at that) and will only be stopped when the cities are burnt-out shells and America realizes the truly sinister nature of these people.

People will be gulping as they realize what they really did to us.

It's would be nice if an eligibility case could make its way to the courts, finally, and get The Precedent tossed out.  Sadly, our nation still doesn't have the guts to do that and defend itself.  The worry about riots in the cities stands ... even as that is clearly part of America's future, whether The Precedent is tossed out or not.  We will just muddle along and be bled to death, with the only hope being that states start to take matters into their own hands and leave.

I wonder if GOP members of the judiciary committee will have the Indonesian Imbecile's own quote about what "radical" really is on the SCOTUS and use that to keep this dipshit bottled up in committee until he dies of old age?

But, once again, this is all no surprise, as the Indonesian Imbecile had said this (and everyone had access to the quote):
"But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties."

Harvard Law needs to have its accreditation stripped from it and the campus reduced to rubble (with or without the faculty there is of little concern) as that institution has been nothing but a destructive force in our society.  They are the absolute scum of the Earth.

While everything that is happening was expected, it is just so unbelievable to actually watch it occur.  Like living in the Twilight Zone.

107 my hand, er, wing is out for some of the reparations!

108 Black men owe America reparations for making us feed and support their kids for the last 60 years.

Oh, it's not played that way?

109 As far as will the Rs give Liu a pass I would say No. Liu is an ass kissing, ambitious little bastard who thinks his time has come. I see Obama using him as the sacrificial lamb. He knows he won't get every appointment as the rs need a victory once in a while. Liu is the lefty loon who will allow 100 closeted leftys to go through because they aren't really liberal like Liu.

110 My scots-irish ancestors came to America; kicked Indian ass, owned lots of black slaves, had many Krauts as indentured servants, and killed lots of various Asians in the Pacific, Korean, and SE Asian theaters -- and I'm still not going to pay a damn dime, nor lose any sleep over it.

111 Here we go again...

112 My Great Great Grandfather sent all his children across the border into Texas a week before the start of the Mexican Revolution. He knew what was coming, and he did what he had to do to save his family.

It cost him his life.

He worked for the railroad in Durango and owned a small silver mine. Early in the revolution, Pancho Villa sent a bunch of his bandits down from Chihuahua to kill landowners and anyone who stuck their heads up at the wrong time, not because he expected to further the revolution, but because the expedition would embarass the revolutionary leader in Chihuahua. That gave Villa the opportunity to take over.

My ancestor took a bullet in the gut while at his mine, and died about 2 weeks later, barricaded inside the mine shaft.

I'm sure that this sob story means that I deserve compensation, right Mr. Liu? I could use an influx of cash....and I promise not to use it for eeevil things like guns, ammo and political contributions to conservative causes/candidates. Really, I promise.

113 Many free blacks owned slaves. Not all white southern farmers were slave owners.

Just some thoughts to ponder when dealing with retards like this.

Posted by: Big John Henry at March 23, 2010 10:45 AM (0stSF)

Actually, freed blacks owned black slaves in much larger percentages than whites of the time did.  There was a study of New Orleans about this.  But, hey, blacks love islam while islamic culture, and African cultures, are the only ones on Earth where slavery is still culturally acceptable.

Typical.

114 as long as we're talking reparations, I'd like to hop aboard the gravy train as well.

get it? I'm a Passenger Pigeon!

ha!

115

"all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up."

Great! Where do I sign up? After I'm done paying for every ones health insurance and education, I figure I'll have about a 1.69 to spare for Liu ernest cause.

 

116
Zero hour has arrived.

God help us all.

117 Not all white southern farmers were slave owners.

Yeah, my grandfather's ancestors were dirt farmers who couldn't have afforded slaves even if they weren't opposed.  Family history indicates my ancestor who fought for the CSA did so because he didn't want a bunch of damn Yankees in Washington should be telling Virginians what they could and couldn't do.  I am in whole-hearted agreement there.

118 So the trillions spent on the Great Society and War on Poverty were chicken feed eh?

Fuck this guy and the horse he rode in on. 

119 Are you all sure this Liu scumbag is talking about "reparations"?  I think he's talking about "repatriation".  That makes more sense.

120 Behold, a preview of the first Asian-American Supreme Court Justice.

Oh, it'll happen.  It's all historical and stuff.  Not to mention unprecedented.

121 Hahahahahahhhahahahaaa!!! This is just the beginning! Suckas! 

122 Here we go again...

Posted by: The Tired Race Card

Kwitcherbitchin'.

123

This is so much bullshit I can hardly stand it.

My grandfather came here in 1900, a Jew escaping massive religious persecution and pogroms in Poland.  He peddled dry goods on the streets of Savannah until he had enough money to open a store.  He put his store in the black neighborhood.  He hired a black woman to raise my father and uncle after their mother died when they were very young.  He sold to blacks when few other white merhchants would.  He was called a saint by the blacks and a n&&&er-loving Jew bastard by the whites.

Google "Leo Frank" and find put what happened to Jews in Georgia back in those days.  The Klan lynched Jews and torched Jewish businesses all the time.

My father went on to the University of Georgia in 1937.  They had quotas for Jews back in those days and he was one of only two admitted.  He was picked on, beaten up, and discriminated against regularly throughout college and medical school.  He had professors who never called him by his name, calling him Jewboy instead.  He had swastikas painted on his dorm room door.

When my dad became a doctor in a small Southern town, he went out of his way to take care of poor black and white folks.  He helped black nurses and janitors who worked in the hospital and took care of their kids for free.  My family had a housekeeper and paid for one of her children to go to college.

I don't need any Communist law professor telling ME I need to take responsibility for slavery.  My ancestors have faced hardship, discrimination, persecution, murder, poverty.  They have directly and indirectly helped more black people than this asshole Liu has probably ever met in his life.

124 My Scottish ancestor was transported over as a bond slave at 16 after the battle of Culloden, and fought in the Revolutionary war in his 50s.  I'll be goddamned if I pay reparations to anybody.

125 In all seriousness, just the fact they he wouldn't dismiss reparations immediately reflects his absolute disqualification for that appointment.

126 Meanwhile, we are treated to the level of dunces who are destroying this nation with this juicy tidbit of retardation from the frigin' chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers discussing the illiterate's view of health scare and our Constitution:

"Under several clauses, the good and welfare clause and a couple others. All the scholars, the constitutional scholars that I know -- IÂ’m chairman of the Judiciary committee, as you know -- they all say that thereÂ’s nothing unconstitutional in this bill and if there were, I would have tried to correct it if I thought there were."

The "good and welfare clause" ... form the House Judiciary chair ... yep.  These are the vicious retards running our government.  I think Liu might be right; repatriations might be just the thing.

127 O definitely.  My ancestors are directly responsible for the slave trade.  They ran it at the same time as they were being tossed out of just about every European country and kicked around by those frisky Cossacks once they arrived at the Pale.   They had shitloads of money to invest, which they got from selling matzoh made out of children's blood and poison to sully wells. 
 

128 Give up our segragated neighborhoods?  A federal judge who thinks Americans need govt. permission to travel and move.  He'll fit right in on the ninth circuit.

129 "all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up."

Don't all modern blacks owe their freedom to all the whites who sacrificed and died for their freedom?

Does the civil war ring a bell?

When will the black community have a day of thanksgiving for all the white people who died for them.  Or for the millions upon millions who have had their earnings raped to create inner city ghettos.

I am not holding my breath.

130 My great-great-great grandfather was granted 1280 acres of land by Sam Houston for fighting for Texan independence.A little over 30 years later that land was seized during reconstruction leaving him and his family destitute. I think we're even.

131 I really don't understand Asians who buy into identity politics. If universities, for example, went strictly on the basis of merit, Harvard would probably be about half Asian. Affirmative Action works against Asians.

132 Liu's parents must have been rather wealthy and/or well-educated for him to be carrying such guilt.  I'd love to have all those fancy benefits he's talking about.

Plus, he's not all that bright.  Law school.  No math in law school.

This race reparations stuff is also intellectually weak.  Suppose you want to get all academic-y.  What about the benefits to blacks?  Anybody want to live in Africa?

I'm pretty sure anybody can renounce their US citizenship and emigrate to almost any country in Africa.

133 Reparations? That guy better be talking about a Toyota.

134 Is he of japanese descent?

135 Obama about to sign Healthcare into law...

Live Streaming of event

136 Well said, emeril.


Let's start counting the other economic benefits: would modern day Blacks be better off if their ancestors had stayed in Africa? How do we calculate all the affirmative action benefits? When Mr. Liu calculates this side of the equation, I will listen.

137 The truth of the US, and what people think of us, is found in population flow numbers.  Black population almost exclusively flows INTO the US, with none of them ever wanting to leave, even though there are tons of black countries in the world (more black countries than white countries, frankly).  That says all one needs to know about the US.  Black Americans should thank G-d that their ancestors were brought here, to put them in the best possible place on Earth (until they and their political allies destroy us) - a place that people are dying to get to, literally.

I have no tolerance left for this bullshit.  None at all.

138 His parents were doctors from Taiwan brought to the US specifically to work in "underserved areas".

139 It was never easy for me. I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sittin' on the porch with my family, singin' and dancin' down in Mississippi.

140

Can I point out once again that a black man is President of the United States?

We are WAAAAAYYYY past the point where this should be behind us.

 

141 His parents were doctors from Taiwan brought to the US specifically to work in "underserved areas".

What, were they kidnapped?  Or did they answer an ad and apply?

142 Since we're all equally culpable for the deeds of people who happened to look somewhat like us more than a century ago, I wonder what evils from the Chinese past Mr. Liu takes "credit" for?  Hey, Goodwin, I know soome Tibetans who want their heads back. Can they have yours?
Meanwhile, bring me a Number 9 luncheon special and shut the fuck up.

143


Dec 7 1941 was committed by JAPANESE


Liu as a surname is NOT JAPANESE (likely Chinese, in fact).  Chinese suffered more from the Japanese than we did, it's fair to say. 

Don't be an ignorant ass.


As for the GOP and 

rather than be perceived as "mean" to a Latina candidate.

Remember that Asians generally aren't minorities for AA purposes, or else they'd be in every position available, particularly since we as white westerners have trouble telling a Loatian from a Tibetan.  Even then, there aren't vast intelligence differences among general asian populations (who as a group have the highest G scores anyway). The Chinese will take over soon enough without making some of their worst representatives (grievance-mongering liberal American Chinese) our overlords.

144 Circa -- and we owe the Chinese trillions.

145 Hmmmm.

"Do I get a pass from the reparations?  My family didn't come to America until after slavery was over.  Or am I guilty because I'm white?"

Hell I was born in South-Fucking-Korea!  WTF?

How am I involved in any way, shape or form with slavery that ended over 150+ years ago?

146 I am SOOO tired of the American Slave legacy believing they are the only people group to ever have it bad. Look around teh globe and it was everywhere and still is in some places. One thing about the American slave trade.......looks like grandpa took one for the team. Show me the average black person in America and stand him up against the average African...IN AFRICA...and tell me who wins!

147 Gabe, appropos of the Wise Latina, and her former clerk, the Paul Weiss lawyer accused of passing propaganda to campers at Club Gitmo, politico reported yesterday that "Fitzmas" Fitzpatrick is investigating said lawyers.  Seemed to get lost in the Great Leap to Socialism commentary of yesterday.

148

Can I point out once again that a black man is President of the United States?

He has more slaveowners in his family line than I do in mine.

149 Since we're all equally culpable for the deeds of people who happened to look somewhat like us more than a century ago,


Speak for yourself, slick.  My ancestors came post civil war, and farmed in Minnesota - WITHOUT and help from blacks, asian, mexicans or any of the other protected specie of modern day America.

I don't owe these parasites shit.

150 Any of you have kids?  Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and their gang of extremists (like this Liu person) are very busy bringing about their subjugation and ruin.

America is gone.  They are now going after your kids.

151 Chinese suffered more from the Japanese than we did, it's fair to say. 

Posted by: hobgoblin at March 23, 2010 11:24 AM (oWJX9)

We saved their asses from the Japanese.  How did the Chinese repay us?  With their move to Communism and war with us in North Korea.  MacArthur was right.  We should have nuked them.

152

Will the big breasted Japanese women in the audience please stand up.

Yes, I here to ease your suffering and pain, -- let's just call it "reparations," shall we?

153 I'm sure someone somewhere has calculated 140 years of interest on 40 acres and a mule.

154 The Dictator is getting a standing ovation as he signs freedom away.

155 Even then, there aren't vast intelligence differences among general asian populations (who as a group have the highest G scores anyway).

Posted by: hobgoblin at March 23, 2010 11:24 AM (oWJX9)

That's true.  But, who has the lowest?  I've always wondered this, but everytime I ask, people clam up for some strange reason ...

156 Impeach Obama.

157 Biden and the Dems are now celebrating the death of America.

158 Posted by: Hobo at March 23, 2010 11:30 AM (V8B//)

Like they say, the pen is mightier than the sword.

159

To argue that slavery somehow built this country is deeply ignorant and irresponsible.  Black chattel slavery was an agrarian phenomenon, largely confined to South of the Mason Dixon line.  Sure, Northerners had "house slaves" but it's not like they built pyramids or anything. 

My grandfather came from Germany in 1925.  My grandmother in 1930. (on my dad's side).  My mothers father came from the kingdom of Serbia in that timeframe, with her mother's family coming over shortly before my maternal grandmother was born.

I can honestly and guiltlessly say that slaves had nothing to do with my family's fortunes in this country.

160

Will they give Liu a pass too?

Hell yes they will.  Fucking cowards.

161 Now we know what America would be like if the Soviets won the cold war.

162 Now we know what America would be like if the Soviets won the cold war.

Looks like they did win the cold war.

163 There is a lot more wrong with this idiot besides believing in reparations.  This wingnut asshole subscribed to every far left bullshit theory there is:

He is a member of the group that pushed the rubber Constitution theory, i.e. judges can rule any way they desire and the written language means anything they think it means.

He also believes it is legal to discriminate racially for the purposes oft achieving quotas.  Never mind that the actual law and the real Constitution in plain English forbids this.

I am sure that there are many more examples of things that are wrong with this fool, but the two with the reparations lunacy adequately demonstrate this he is not qualified to enter a courtroom at all as anything more than a spectator.

Indeed, these things illustrate that he should not be allowed on the street without a minder to keep him from playing in traffic and eating dirt. 

164 Looks like they did win the cold war.

The soviets subverted through the educational system..

165 all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up.

I really wish some Republican on that committee would ask him, in light of this statement, why he should not step aside for a black nominee.

Watching him stammer through a response would be priceless.

Follow up with, "So this is just theory, then? I mean, you personally don't have any intention of righting this wrong to the extent that it costs you something, correct? Instead you're looking to dictate what the cost will be to others."

166 The ironic thing is that if we hadn't won the cold war this probably wouldn't be happening.

167 This is Commiecrat Standard Operating Procedure. It's time for the GOP to tell them to get lost. Unfortunately, there are too many saps in the GOP who think we need to pander.

168 Look at the crease in his pants! He's going to be a very good judge.

169

Prior to the 2008 elections.. I just thought this talk was from a couple kooky people sipping lattes in San Francisco.

Its going to be a really long 3 years.

170 Today, TODAY! Health insurance insurgency reform becomes law in America!

171

At risk of being the thread's racist, I offer a scenario whereby reparations are granted to every complainant. Jewish people are "owed" because of the Holocaust? Pay them. African Americans are "owed" because of slavery? Pay them. Koreans are "owed" because Margaret Cho tarnished their image? Pay them. Palestinians are "owed" because we supported the Zionist Whatever Thingamathing? Pay them, too.

At that point, we're even.

Make reversing entries in history's journal and move everyone forward with a clean slate. No one gets to go to Harvard or work for the government or sell tax-free cigarettes because of what society did to their ancestors.

(I wonder who would go for this and who'd oppose it.)

 

172 I'm half Sicilian. I'm going to sue the whole friggin world for reparations, most especially Africans.

Dude, my lineage is Sicilian too.  That little island has been invaded and enslaved by every tin pot dictator and would be emperor of the world since the time of the ancient Egyptians.  Its been the "crossroads of pain" just about forever.

173 I'd like to see some Repub play this clip at his hearing and point out that in his mind he's already convicted millions of innocent people.  How does he respond to that?

1. We were born.
2. ???????
3. Suck it!

174 Benefit of the slave trade? Since the Dutch and Spanish were by far the largest slavers I guess he means we owe them.

175

progressoverpeace at March 23, 2010 11:31 AM


It's impolite to notice such things POP.  Conversely, if you do notice, you start getting the Klansman rallying to your cause like our recent troll Lt. Quarrells.  It's a no win situation. 

Derbyshire's got it right.  Close the doors, let in people who will improve the lot of America.  On an individualized basis.  YOu got a Ugandan physicist, great, come on in.  An Omani biologist?  Great.  A Bangladeshi mathematics whiz, welcome to the party.  A Guianian doctor (a real one, let's assume), he can be a nurse.

letting in the Somali grifter, the Guatemalan "homosexual" or any of the bullshit asylum seekers that flood the system now is retarded (literally, in the sense of slowing our country's intellectual advancement).

By the same token, I want no part of and disclaim any common cause with the true racists like Quarrels and others who are making this place into a little slice of hell right now.

176 the words "GO F*CK YOURSELF", come to mind. There's only one way to stop these types from infiltrating our political system and it isn't with voting booths.

177

The left, the "you owe me a living" crowd, just keeps on coming.  And why not?  It works.  The rest of us are here to serve them.

Seems pretty clear to me that this nonsense does not end until feedom loving men and women sever their political ties to the socialists and grievance mongers now in power in the US.   It won't be easy, but the sooner we get started, the better chance there is that some of us, or at least our children, will enjoy the freedom that the US at one time enjoyed.

178 >>23 Since I'm the grandson of someone who worked in British India, can I earmark my reparations payments to the Indian-American community? I'll still be out a shitload of money, but at least I know that it will be invested wisely.

Posted by: Zimriel at March 23, 2010 10:01 AM (9Sbz+)

Zimriel, I am from India. I will take the payment in beer. I will bring the munchies and cigarettes.

179 I have no confidence in the federal government. 

They are ruining the futures of my children.

Whoever supports these despicable, ruinous socialist politicians is my enemy.

180

OT: Victor David Hanson from The Corner

I suppose one could interpret the health care bill as "Pelosi's historic achievement," as the media has been insisting, but that would also mean that an unpopular President and a more unpopular Congress and a most unpopular Speaker together railroaded through an unpopular, sweeping piece of legislation without a single opposition vote, and through the sort of tawdry legislative bribery and procedural gimmicks we haven't seen since the 19th century. So the bill is historic mostly in the minds of the D.C.–New York liberal punditocracy and Democratic stalwarts, for about another seven months, before the people weigh in themselves.

I don't think by year's end too many will call the bill historic; and when the opposition eventually takes over the Congress (and it always does), and its zealots begin to ram through radical, partisan changes, in the manner of Pelosi's precedent, "historic" will be the last adjective we used to look back on March 21 and the role of the Speaker. The means live on; the ends are ephemeral — and Pelosi's conduct tarnished the Congress and will unleash a no-holds-barred reaction when she is out of power that will make historians think very carefully about the real lasting wages of her most unpopular tenure.

181

Yup, they already used up way more than the media's allocated quota of "mean spritedness" for Republicans in the health care "debate".

They better watch out or the MSM will get them for racism and code words.

182 178 the words "GO F*CK YOURSELF", come to mind. There's only one way to stop these types from infiltrating our political system and it isn't with voting booths.

Posted by: UGrev at March 23, 2010 11:40 AM (862vz)

Hear! Hear!

183 The soviets subverted through the educational system..
Posted by: Hobo

Don't forget the press and entertainment. All the communication channels AND their content.

184 The soviets subverted through the educational system..
Posted by: Hobo

Don't forget the press and entertainment. All the communication channels AND their content.

True DAt!

185

They better watch out or the MSM will get them for racism and code words.

Posted by: RM

I hope they watch out and deliberately use "code words." I want them to march right into it and say STFU to these insane charges of racism.

186 "Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether."

187

152 Any of you have kids?

What he said.

188 MacArthur was right.  We should have nuked them.
Posted by: progressoverpeace

Really, proggie? That's pretty dumb even for you.

189 For those who are wondering how this paragon can harbor white guilt in spite of the fact that he is obviously not white, the idiotic liberal notion of "privilege" gives us non-black minorities the ability to also feel guilty for the "crimes" of eeeebul white people. Yay! Now we can all feel guilty for being successful!

His parents were doctors from Taiwan brought to the US specifically to work in "underserved areas".

I'm sure they are just thrilled that their son has bought into socialism lite, especially if they are part of the group that fled the mainland in 1949.

I was watching a news clip with my Taiwanese mom once, about Michael Moore and his "Capitalism" movie. I had to explain his world view to her and she looked at me like I was nuts. "He's rich! How can he be a good Communist? And why would Americans want to be Communist?" I love my mom.

190

Comment #72 nailed it perfectly.  In fact, it should be a question asked of this turd at the senate confirmation hearing.

Senator:  Mr. Liu, as you so eloquently said, we must all give up something.  So, what are you willing to give up in this cause?

Liu:  Blah blah blah... repeat.

Senator:  No Mr. Liu, what you are going to give up is your position on the 9th Circuit Court.

Liu:  *Blink blink* Er...that sucks.

191 Posted by: hobgoblin at March 23, 2010 11:40 AM (oWJX9)

I understand exactly what you're saying.  But, that sort of thinking is the problem.  So long as we are stuck in that mode, we are dead.  Fear of the truth is never a good thing.  That was my point.  If one can talk about which group has the highest average IQ, then one must be willing to talk about which group has the lowest. 

The funny/pathetic part is that if you tell a white guy that orientals have higher IQs (in the aggregate) the white just shrugs it off and says, "So what."  (BTW, I say "orientals" because the politically correct term "asians" is inaccurate - and was planned to be so, as politically correct things always are - as an Afghani is asian but not oriental).

When truth is diallowed, we get problems like the US is dying from right now.

192 RWN says they are still 2 votes shy of passing him

193
Can you believe this shit?

A president of the U.S. is using the word 'free' several times in a speech talking about govt benefits.

Free!

Free?

Free. wink-wink

194 Racist?  Laugh in their face.  Show them this:

"As documented in another recent budget office analysis, the federal deficit is already expected to exceed at least $700 billion every year over the next decade, doubling the national debt to more than $20 trillion. By 2020, the federal deficit — the amount the government must borrow to meet its expenses — is projected to be $1.2 trillion, $900 billion of which represents interest on previous debt.The health care legislation would only increase this crushing debt."

From a former CBO director.

http://tinyurl.com/yefdqnf

THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.  YOUR KIDS ARE HOSED.

195 At that point, we're even.

We'll never be even.  Even if the gov't cut a check tomorrow to every black person in America, in 20 years there will be a new crop of black kids, taught in school (I almost said for thirteen years, but I've seen the black dropout rates) that they're victims of America the second they were born, and they will demand another round.

196
he's talking about 'free' health care.

Obama is giving We The Peons health care. Obama is doing it.

Obama's largess has no bounds!

This is our president.

This is our CEO of our Republic.

Free. Free. Free. All courtesy of the king.

197

Hell I was born in South-Fucking-Korea!  WTF? How am I involved in any way, shape or form with slavery that ended over 150+ years ago?

Because you were never discriminated against because you were black.

(Please, don't argue with me on this; that's how the argument goes. I, personally, agree with you. But: You had it easier because you've never had the n-word directed at you. And: You wouldn't understand.)

198 Get it out of your mind that Obama and the Dems actually want to solve problems.

They want to EXPLOIT problems for their own political benefit.

Quoth Alinsky: Power first, policy later.

This is about POWER.

199 Actually since a large percentage of the Union Army of the Potomac which greatly helped to win their freedom at great personal cost, was made up of Irish immigrants recruited right off the docks in New York,Boston and Philadelphia.I think African Americans owe my family some reparations.

200
Shame on ME for not going to D.C. last weekend.

I should've been there. TEN MILLION of us shoulda been there.

201 We have defeated the Communists abroad, only to have a 5th column of Demunist Commiecrats at home. The old strategy of bourgeois vs. proletariat did not work, but they are now trying "white" vs. "non-white".

202

Prepare to PUKE! Mary K. Ham just tweeted: 

Obama: "I'm signing this bill on behalf of my mother."

203 Don't forget the press and entertainment. All the communication channels AND their content.

Which is why the internet is so dangerous to them.  And they'll their view of people as helpless twits as an excuse to "control" it.

A few audience members argued seriously that computer users should have to take a test to get an internet license, maintain botnet insurance and have their machines inspected for information-super highway worthiness.

204 Inside of three years, the increased federal interest (interest!) obligations resulting from Obamacare are going to be larger than the entire 2005 Federal income tax revenue.

Obama and the Democrats just bankrupted us.

205 RWN says they are still 2 votes shy of passing him

I thought this was still tied up in committee. If we can make sure that NO Republicans agrees with his nomination he will be killed as it will never get out of committee.

It is time the Rs started doing this because the Dems do it commonly.

Of course that means Lindsey Graham has to agree. 

206 The means live on; the ends are ephemeral — and Pelosi's conduct tarnished the Congress and will unleash a no-holds-barred reaction when she is out of power that will make historians think very carefully about the real lasting wages of her most unpopular tenure.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at March 23, 2010 11:43 AM (Vu6sl)

This is true, but it isn't Pelosi who did this.  It was The Precedent.  He was the one  pushing this rancid corpse of a bill over and over and over.  And this was the whole point of his push - not to get the legislation passed (he didn't care one way or another about it) but only to break our system and institutions in the process.  And they are broken, now, as violated taboos and trampled traditions are never undone.

207

Let's see... back then my ancestors were Tennessee dirt farmers.  So far as I know, we couldn't afford shoes, much less slaves.  And while we were busy minding our own business, some Union jackasses came along and burned our houses to the ground, tore up our fields, and stole our food. 

But I tell you what.  Instead of asking for reparations, how about I make the government a special one-time deal:  I'll call the whole thing even if they just get the hell off my lawn and stop stealing my fucking stuff. 

If it helps, I'm also 16th or 32nd Cherokee.  I'll write off the casino earnings owed to me, as well.

208 THERE IS NO MORE MONEY.

Haw can we be out of money?  I still see trees.

209 Obama: "I'm signing this bill on behalf of my mother."

She had insurance....

210

as a professor and being so smart , a progressive, let me say that all of us progressives give up 3 years salary and commit ourselves to working for the black man for free. 

 seems a little harsh i know, but the social justice that we go on and on about until we go nuts and start shooting faculty members must be done, starting with us.

every democrat should give up his job now. this will show you wingers that  we put our money where the the shackels are. i have always felt empty making all these demands on "the people" and exempting ourselves. now we progressives can finally do something for the black man instead of the usual hiring of a token black for janitorial work. 

think of it, the deficit will go down because taxes will finally be paid , by them not us. we progressives have made a career of whinning and complaining about everything and exempting ourselves from the silly solutions we make up during lunch. now we can do something.

LETS DO IT PROGRESSIVES... YES WE CAN... TIPPY CANOE AND SOME SHIT TOO... 1, 2, 3, 4, LETS ALL STOP BEING WHEENY WHORES...proressives unite, all you have to lose is... FREEDOM, and you know what we think of that out dated term..........

 

211 Hah , bulwark , you wish .
A large portion of the army of Northern Virginia was also irish . At Fredericksburg it was irish killing irish at a rate that would have made their stay at home relatives in the old country green with envy .
Wait , not envy, but nausea at the carnage .
Bottom line , you still owe the reparations . Pay up .

212 This judicial turd is also on record saying healthcare is a right.

I keep pushing this, but it needs to be said: Legal care is actually a right.  The Constitution provides the right to a lawyer.

So screw legal aid: We need single payer for lawyers.  All lawyers.  Civil, criminal, mortgage, all of them.

That way we can set a maximum rate of $20 per billable hour.

What's wrong with that, Mr. Liu?

213 That way we can set a maximum rate of $20 per billable hour.

Pay them in unicorn futures and Cheetos.

214 You too cautiously pessimistic . Your Cherokee ancestors probably fought with the confederates as well .
Again , pay up .

215 "I'm signing this bill on behalf of my mother."

No surprise. She was a commie, too.

216

Pay them in unicorn futures and Cheetos.

I'm long unicorn futures, now that Pizza Hut is offering ten-dollar pizzas with any toppings.

217 212 Obama: "I'm signing this bill on behalf of my mother."

She had insurance....

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 23, 2010 12:01 PM (mR7mk)

Until he recently started making this push about his mother, I thought it was commonly known that he never went to see her when she was sick.

I remember discussing this during his bizarre visits to his grandmother.

218

The real fallcy here is that slavery is the foundation of prosperity. That's so obviously false it makes my head hurt. Slavery is a drag on prosperity and wealth, not the cause of it. Slavery is millimeters away from Communism, really. People work for a totalitarian master who chooses your education, your career, your medical care, your housing, your food. Everything is chosen for you and you do whatever work you are assigned. It limits productivity, the real cause of wealth and prosperity, and drags an economy down. It's absolute nonsense to say that any wealth or prosperity we have now is a result of a system that is economically destructive.

219

I'm all for reparations.  One hundred fucking percent.

Obamacare won't do it.  Pretending there is a bottomless pit of money that's actually worth something won't do it.  Destruction of the public education system won't do it.  Debauching the currency won't do it.  Congressmen happily accepting open bribes with worthless money won't do it. 

When they pass Cap 'n Trade, that won't do it either.  Neither will amnesty for illegals.  We'll all bitch and piss and moan, but nothing our elected officials - every. last. stinking. one. of. them - will effectively change our course from running this country into the ground.

Seizing Reparations will though.  I've seen and heard a lot of empty rhetoric about blood in the streets lately, but Reparations would actually make it happen.  Unless Republicans can grow some fucking balls and stem the tide by, I dunno, actually sticking to the core principles that define the platforms they barely pay lipservice to, it will take Reparations to make something real happen to fix our broke ass government.

When that day comes, I'll gladly stand on The Mall and begin politely asking every last elected official in that big ass building to exit the building and return to their homestate while ensuring my fully automatic weapon is locked, loaded, and at the carry.

220

our segregated neighborhoods

Show me one. Then I'll get right on denouncing it.

221

I'm half Sicilian. I'm going to sue the whole friggin world for reparations

Duh, that's why you people have the mafia!

I demand reparations from Hollywood for the over-employment of Italians in Mafia movies.

222 #80 Patrick........To My friends on the wall and to the many funerals, I say this? 'Patric', you say what ever the fuck you want to say. These good men died giving you/me everyone the right to do just that, and if some pricks on this site don't like it, tell him to kiss your fucking ass! [this irony of impugning people], now that's real pretty, that's his way of tell everyone he like it in the ass!

223


POP, I know that haplotype matching is a sketchy business and we need to have more open discussions.  I have not seen enough about teh Paki/Afgan intelligence scores to comfortable define the old "mongoloid" race and more specifically than Asian, though "East Asian" is a closer approximation (it excludes Hindu-Indians though)

We need to simply guarantee a minimum intelligence standard for immigrants.

224 I am signing this bill on behalf of my mother.

Because I have no idea who my fucking father was.

Since my mother was a rapacious bed bunny who had a porn star's appetite and Hillary's good looks - it could have been any of several tens of thousands of black men looking for an ugly, easy white woman.

Here's to you dad.  You were fucking white people before it was cool.

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My thinking on this is simple, every Republican who does hide under their desk again gets put on the "Incumbents who need their asses thrown out of office" list. 

Now granted, this is getting to be a really big list, but seriously, were never going to get much done if we keep playing nice with these cretins.  Just ask yourself a simple question, what happens everytime Israel caves in and gives Palestine something it wants?  Same thing that always happens, they take it, demand more and meanwhile the attacks start up again as soon as they can rearm themselves.

Make no mistake folks, the Demcratic party has shown the American people in no uncertain terms they aren't interested in "bi-partisanship" or "the people" all they give a care about is advancing their agenda, regardless of our wishes or how obviously destructive that agenda might be to our lives.

It's time for the Republican party to stop playing this stupid game by their rules, because they'll just keep doing what they always do, if it looks like the Repulican's might win they just change the rules.

How gullible are these asshats anyway?  Ok, lets face some facts here.  The mainstream media will bash you anytime you don't go along lockstep with the Dem's.  Grow a pair and get used to it, because thats not going to change, but understand and begin to recognize that no one of consequence, in fact no one who might be inclined to support you at all listens to the old liberal media anymore, so why do you keep trying to pander to them?

Lets also face the fact that compromising with liberals is just a bad idea all the way around.  If they nominate a liberal, out of the mainstream judge and you support that nomination when you nominate someone who is actually going to look at the law and make decisions based on that instead of some woolheaded liberal notion of social justice, they are going to scream and cry and put up every roadblock they can.  That's how they play the game, so stop giving them a pass.

 

 

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I agree, but our immigration system is family-oriented, instead, and I don't see that changing.

I don't disagree with what you have been saying in response to my original question.  That's obvious, since I am skirting the issue, myself, well aware of "what is allowed" and what isn't, truth be damned.

And I would say that "oriental" was more of an ethnic classification than a racial one, and it remains more accurate in that, even though it is still somewhat ill-defined.  Look, when Brits talk about "asians", they mean Pakistanis, generally.  Very few Americans intend that meaning with the same word. But then, as I said, obfuscation and lying has always been the main intention of political correctness.  We are, seemingly, stuck with it as a society, because people are just too scared of being called names for making truthful statements or using more accurate terminology.

229 Someone tell this fuckstick, we already paid our reparations in blood.

620,000 bodies wasn't enough?

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So since African blacks were the ones that sold their countrymen into slavery, doesn't that mean that American blacks owe reparatons to...themselves?

231 Not surprising this guy is being nominated for this position by this president.  Hey, how about people like me?  I'm the grandchild of immigrants who didn't step foot onto American soil til 1920 something.  Plus I'm not white, so I don't own any of that guilt.  My family and I should be exempted from this crap.  And yeah, an earlier comment made an excellent point--living in America vs Africa is reparations.  If these entitled morons weren't the descendents of slaves, they would be living a much worse life back in the old country.

232  
"...all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up."

If that is true then that includes black Americans as well. 

If everyone is required to give something up then isn't it easier to just let everyone keep what they have and call it even?

Of course I totally reject his sick arguments and the ideologies that inspire them.

Every time I listen to people like this actually say what they truly think and feel, I get nauseous.  It makes my skin crawl. 

The purpose of "reparations," as well as other Gramscian schemes, is to turn Americans against each other.  Divide and conquer is the name of the game.

We are at war.  Our enemies are already among us.  They work to unravel the fabric of our society in the name of "improving" it.  They sow distrust and hatred wherever they go.  Their dream and their goal is a nation that has destroyed itself from within and been replaced with a Marxist prison state.

Sooner or later, they will be held to account.  The only question is how much harm we allow them to do in the mean time.

233 I can prove by records and census that no one in my family NEVER owned a slave.  In fact, the Arabs were known to kidnap my people from old Ireland and take them as slaves.   Do the Arabs have to give me reparations?

234 232 Someone tell this fuckstick, we already paid our reparations in blood.

620,000 bodies wasn't enough?

 

 

Uncle Facts, they never get "enough".  Look at all the swag they've already accumulated over the years--race based quotas, all kinds of grants and scholarships, reduced entrance standards--that just covers education.  Then you've got the federally subsidized housing, food, transportation, and health care.  Basically they've got cradle to grave entitlements, yet that's still not enough.  Even if every "descendent of a slave" is given a generous cash award, it won't be enough.  Victocrats are insatiable.  They will always come back for more with a new imaginary grievance.

235

I want reparations from Black Americans for those buffalo soldiers going after some of my kinfolk then.

And I want reparations from myself for my mom's family being all whitey and oppressive against another branch of Mom's family (I guess marriage and a bunch of kids can be seen as part of that oppression too).

I would also like to just call this reparations thing even, because my grandpa came to this country a poor, young Italian immigrant, who got swept up by a padrone whilst scouring the docks looking for some type of work...later to be shackled out in some godforsaken area of WV, a gatling gun trained on him, and one of those oppressed Black people was his billy club wielding foremen (Gramps managed an escape; vowed if he ever met that foreman again he'd cut him and cut him bad).  Since Gramps was treated in a rather slave-like and oppressed fashion by a Black guy, I think we should just call that one even...now, where are my $10 worth (1492 value, so adjust for inflation) of trinkets? (I'd ask for $25, but I have to pay reparations to myself, this will settle for the $10, because I'm kind).

236 "all modern Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up." You first, Liu. Leave your passbooks, keys, and wallet on your way out of the country.

237 Gee, you'd almost think they were building an army with promises of loot.

238 This is just one of so many things wrong with allowing Liu to be confirmed. Not only reparations, but he backs education as a right, freebies for illegal immigrants, evolving interpretation of the Constitution, on and on. He is certainly free to believe what he will, but no one with this extreme ideology should be any kind of judge. Of course, no one with this extreme ideology should be POTUS either, but we know how that ended...

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240  Well, you know, everybody likes themselves some free stash -- everybody; go ask even a wealthy person if they'd like some free stash; I bet they'll say "sure!".  This isn't about wrongs committed, or justice finally being done -- this is about pandering to the global inherent sense of greed.

Sorry, but this burns me.  I grew up being called just about every racial/ethnic slur there was (my tormentors had a lot of options)...I got beat up at school and the Klan even burnt a cross on their lawn (because they were drunk, bored, and there weren't any colored-colored people in town...so we had to do, along with the Polish/Jewish family that lived next door to us).  Yeah, it wasn't a lot of fun; yeah, I can see where that sort of shit most definitely needs to be stopped and we as a nation need to get over it.  No, it doesn't mean you should be allowed to victimize innocent people because once upon a time you were a victim (or your great grandpa was once a victim).

What the hell does this have to do with "move on"?  I can't see how this helps the country -- but I guess that's the point. 

240 That the hell was the Trillions spent on blacks over the last 50+ years? I think if with all that, they still can't outperform someone from a 3rd world country that comes here not speaking but 10 words of English, then they deserve nothing. Hell, the damn Jihadi can come here, open up a gas station, and make enough to take care of his family and send money back home to support the other Jihadies blowing up more of our families. Someone just isn't pulling his weight.

241

Can I point out once again that a BIRACIAL man is President of the United States?

He has more slaveowners in his family line than I do in mine.

 

 And his father's side were slavetraders.

242

 all modern non-black Americans share responsibility for the "benefit" of the slave trade and must agree to give something up

 

 What about Black immigrants ? The slave trade occured because West African slaveowners unloaded their undesireables ( considered by them)for a bottle of rum.

 

243 Just curious: Which movie was Liu referring to in his talk?

244 Blazing Saddles.

245 Look, lets be honest. IT IS A RACIAL SPOILS SYSTEM. Any non-White can ONLY advance by taking money, positions, power, and everything else (property) from WHITES. That's it. Don't think that Liu is any way out of tune or sync with most Asians. Most Asians in the US feel exactly the same way -- that Whites are the "enemy" and must give up all their money, indeed simply should not exist, as the only race imbued with original sin. These are the inevitable and unstoppable wages of socialism. Period. In a multi-racial, multicultural society, it is imperative that government be kept small, the ONLY path to success be entrepreneurship or private business (through assimilation to a hugely dominant majority population), and that questions of allocating money/power/success BY RACE be impossible. America passed that possibility sometime in the late 1960's with AA. It is now too late, like May 1940 was too late to avert WWII. You could not stop Hitler's rise from power when you were evacuating Dunkirk. All that is left is who will get what. Who will win, and who will lose. We are a socialist nation, now and forever. Government picks who wins/loses, and transfers wealth. All you have to ask yourself is, do you want to win or lose? If you want to win, you need to vote your own ethnic/racial identity, ONLY, no one else, and pursue policies that keep your own race/ethnicity not only politically but demographically dominant. Because that determines how big a slice of the pie you get. This guy said what he said out in the open. ALL Democrats WITHOUT EXCEPTION believe in this and about 35% of White men seem to (according to the LAT story the other day). Asian, Gay, Black, and Hispanic people are the opponents of Whites in doling out the goodies. The pie is not growing and CANNOT GROW. An Asian, Gay, Black, or Hispanic person can only win if a White guy LOSES. I.E. money is transferred, power is given up, property transferred. To quote Anka, THATS JUST THE WAY IT IS. I wish it wasn't. I don't hold anything personal -- that's just non-Whites looking out for their own interests -- by taking stuff away from me because I'm White. I wish I could be non-White. At least Hispanic if not Black. Then I could join the winning team in taking pie slices away from Whites. But sadly I cannot change my skin color to something non-White. So I vote my own interests. I look out for #1. I understand completely that every non-White is my opponent, it's just business, nothing personal, but that is the way it is. America is not going to be small government and race any more than we'll see Obama turn Libertarian. This guy will get confirmed on a straight party line vote -- but its imperative that Whites pressure "the White party" aka Republicans to put hearings and public statements that put Democrats on the record as favoring reparations and property transfers and Whites giving up (in a deep/permanent recession) jobs to non-Whites. And segue to Amnesty arguing that Whites will be an instant second class minority -- that illegals must be deported not made citizens if Whites want to keep their jobs, money, and property. Because in fact, that is the most likely result. It's just business.

246 whiskey, I have had an awful lot of dealing with Asians in this country, and while they really don't love whitey all that much, why should they, they hate everyone else far more. They all know that the system is stacked against them and they mostly live in such hard line Blue States that they might as well just be democrats anyway. But they resent it like hell, and being far more likely to be small business owners and with so many being self consciously religious they are natural Republicans (my church in San Francisco was entirely Filipino and Chinese except for the elderly Irish bachelors and the old women), this is especially since affirmative action is clearly designed more and more to keep them and their kids down. Cal has even admitted that they can't do strictly merit admissions because otherwise the school would be more than half Chinese. And in other parts of the country they often are quite conservative, Texas Vietnamese are a backbone of the Republican party in areas of Houston and Dallas. Not to mention Orange County. And While lots of Filipino's are Democrats, the more religious, especially women are really really, like chain themselves to the doors and lay in front of cars, pro-life, which is really turning them into vocal Republicans.

247 I live in Orange County. While culturally and socially, Asians are quite conservative (in OC that is basically Vietnamese emigres) -- They still support AA, strongly, because outside the UC/Cal State system they do well. For example, I am a small business owner. One man shop. I cannot go to all these Federal conferences for women owned, minority (non-White) owned businesses to drum up business and connections. I am a White guy. I lose. They win. As long as we are dividing up the goodies by race (and gender) then I will vote and act and pressure the same way. I can't change my skin color (I wish I could) and don't feel like going to Sweden. I want "mine" -- my share of the pie. That's how the game is played.

248 whiskey, My experience is from San Francisco, where so much of the business is Chinese owned and everything is controlled by cartels that run the licensing boards. For example if you are white and want a contractor's license you need to be Irish (and if you are Irish and you can't get a permit you are the kind of asshole that not even the other Irish can stand), and then do your darndest to get connected, If you are asian you need to be Toishan Chinese, otherwise no dice and if you are latino or black you have to go to the carpenters union. But there are informal rules, if you are non chinatown chinese nobody will really come after you for doing unlicensed work as long as you only do your fellow asians, which doesn't count filipinos. The same applies to Mexicans. Otherwise everybody is cut out. And since the whole pool of contractees are basically asian the set asides do more to hurt than help. Which is why I know so many Chinese with a dummy black partner. If you bring people into this country from a culture that is already familiar with bureaucratic favoritism and bribery and then set up a similar system, of course they will take advantage of it. But if they go to a place, basically anywhere but Cali or Hawai'i, where there is a less crony based system they instantly see the benefits. As I have said for years it is California leftists corrupting our immigrants, not our our immigrants bringing corruption.

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