January 27, 2010

Gov. Haley Barbour: Yup, GOP's Chances in 2010 Better Than in 1994
— Ace

But, he adds, don't get cocky or overconfident.

I would add "stupid." The GOP tends to get bad cases of the stupids from time to time, and by "time to time," I mean of course "all the time."

“Nothing is automatic in politics. Things change. Everybody needs to just run hard, hard, and take nothing for granted,” Barbour told The Hill shortly after he spoke to the conference.

“But the environment today is better for Republicans in January of 2010 than it was in January of 1994,” he added.

...

He avoided any predictions on whether the GOP could retake the House or Senate this November. But he said the partyÂ’s chances seem better than they were in 1994, the year Republicans took both chambers.

Barbour said recapturing the Senate would be harder than winning back the House “because the numbers are a little worse — but a month is a light-year in politics.”

Right... I know there is a down side to overconfidence, but personally I think there is a bigger upside in enthusiasm and belief in good outcomes.

Posted by: Ace at 11:04 AM | Comments (65)
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1 Hate to break this, but the truth is that the Party of Tranvestite Dislexic Street Walkers has a better chance this year than the Dems, as well.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 27, 2010 11:07 AM (r1h5M)

2 Indeed, what the 2010 election(which has yet to happen) needs is more parallel's from history.

Posted by: Ben at January 27, 2010 11:07 AM (wuv1c)

3 What a bunch of Eeyores.

Posted by: Rambling Hillbuzz Dillhole at January 27, 2010 11:07 AM (RwPdb)

4  don't get cocky

yeah, what he said

Posted by: Han Solo at January 27, 2010 11:09 AM (Uc/xV)

5 If the GOP would just run on the following everything will work out. 1) Lower Taxes 2) Shrink the size, scope and reach of the Federal Government 3) Fiscal Responsibility 4) Strong National Defense That. Is. All.

Posted by: McLovin at January 27, 2010 11:09 AM (RwvN1)

6 Indeed, what the 2010 election(which has yet to happen) needs is more parallel's from history.

Get Fox News on it.  They predate history.

Posted by: CUS at January 27, 2010 11:10 AM (wOGfT)

7 I will admit to being over confident that the RNC will yank that chicken away from the Dems and then Viking away. 

Posted by: alexthechick at January 27, 2010 11:10 AM (8WZWv)

8

Hate to break this, but the truth is that the Party of Tranvestite Dislexic Street Walkers has a better chance this year than the Dems, as well.

Dude  --  That's fine with me.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2010 11:10 AM (7DB+a)

9
The Democrats were taken by surprise in 1994. That's not gonna happen this year.

I predict a 10-15 seat gain in the lower house. And maybe +2 in the upper house.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 11:10 AM (jVldi)

10 #5 Ditto. That'll be the big tent that can bring EVERYONE on board that can be reached.  

Posted by: Alex at January 27, 2010 11:10 AM (Tr7vq)

11 I WANT TO BELIEVE !!!!

Posted by: Iblis at January 27, 2010 11:11 AM (9221z)

12 The Democrats were taken by surprise in 1994. That's not gonna happen this year.

This year, they will be taken over by stupid.

Posted by: CUS at January 27, 2010 11:11 AM (wOGfT)

13 Here is what working for challengers in Illinois Federal House races.

"I am not Nancy Pelosi.  A vote for me is a vote against Nancy Pelosi."

Pelosi is radioactive in rural districts.  Voters hate her.  Any candidate that is pegged to Pelosi is in serious trouble.

Posted by: WTFCI at January 27, 2010 11:11 AM (GtYrq)

14 Oh, and I want someone to run against Schumer!
There's no excuse especially, in this climate to give asshats like Chuck U a free pass.

Posted by: Iblis at January 27, 2010 11:12 AM (9221z)

15

In November Republicans should run on the platform:

Vote for me and I'll see to it that Obama does less damage.

Posted by: Speller at January 27, 2010 11:13 AM (o0R2E)

16

1) Lower Taxes
2) Shrink the size, scope and reach of the Federal Government
3) Fiscal Responsibility
4) Strong National Defense
5) Keep Michael Steele away from any live mikes.

 

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2010 11:13 AM (7DB+a)

17 No, it isn't.  A light year is a measure of disctance, not time.

Ah, Snap!

Posted by: taylork at January 27, 2010 11:13 AM (4jZ56)

18 Well, you've got me, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: Barak Obama at January 27, 2010 11:14 AM (bvDV5)

19 Stay on target!

Posted by: Gold Leader at January 27, 2010 11:14 AM (9221z)

20 Which is why Haley and the NGA is one of the few organizations that still receive contributions from me- there is not a lot of "stupid" coming from them.

Meanwhile back at the other GOP haunts, including Congress, most of the same tired old ass clowns that put us out to pasture think they are going to breath new life into their Kabuki suits. However, that is the only thing standing between us and restoring some appreciable semblance of the real Republican Party in Washington. I suggest the all those useless denizens- get new jobs as cockroach impressionists or bilge pumps before we burn them out with a flame thrower.

Posted by: Marcus Trainus at January 27, 2010 11:15 AM (9hDVG)

21

This election is so much like 94 . . . no, that's been written about.

Wait, I've got it!

This election is similar to the election of 1894 . . .

Posted by: desperate op-ed columnist at January 27, 2010 11:16 AM (pfStM)

22
We can look at J.D. Hayworth's loss in 2008 for a national model on what the Democrats are gonna do.

Hayworth lost in 2008 because his (D) opponent cut J.D.'s legs out from under him. The Democrat campaigned as conservative on the issues as J.D. and as 'not a Republican.'

So the Democrats are gonna run as tax-cutting deficit hawks and gin up the anti-Republican hatred and mistrust, again. This is why I wanted the Democrats to ram through as much of their radical leftwing agenda as possible. By November, the people will forget all about death panels and health care and all that shit.

Posted by: This is boner at January 27, 2010 11:16 AM (jVldi)

23 The GOP? It's the political party that did the Kessel run in less than 9 parsecs.

Posted by: Han "Spielberg is scientifically illiterate" Solo at January 27, 2010 11:18 AM (RD7QR)

24 You're thinking of a parsec.

Posted by: Han Solo at January 27, 2010 11:18 AM (9Sbz+)

25 YOU MANIAC! DAMN YOOOOOOU RD7QR!

Posted by: Zimriel Heston at January 27, 2010 11:19 AM (9Sbz+)

26 Don't call it a comeback.

Posted by: LL Cool J at January 27, 2010 11:21 AM (IIhvY)

27 25 You're thinking of a parsec.

Did somebody say parsnip?

Posted by: Pintel at January 27, 2010 11:21 AM (9221z)

28
"I would add "stupid." The GOP tends to get bad cases of the stupids from time to time, and by "time to time," I mean of course "all the time.""

Yes -that's right.

 The GOP and the "right" in general have a hard time with the KISS.
See below.  The birther/Birch Society stuff will not be helpful. It will be harmful.
Selfish.   But good luck!   In other words -the GOP can be blind to the big issues and stumble on the stupid.  Happens all the time.  Why oh why
can't the GOP take an opportunity and run with it?  Intelligently... cautiously without the stupid chip on the shoulder. 

This nation wants to fight the socialists and the progressives.  We are not a stupid proggie nation.  We are a center-right nation!  WE are the majority!  We can fight with the smarts on our side!








Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 27, 2010 11:22 AM (0fzsA)

29 Posted by: Overly persnickity dude at January 27, 2010 03:12 PM (PReJ3)

It's "persnickety."

Posted by: That goose and gander thing at January 27, 2010 11:24 AM (tPZUr)

30

The other side of this is that if the R's don't capture the House and/or Senate, the Dems and media will spin it as vindication of the Dem agenda.

I think we need to play the expectations game here to a certain extent.

Posted by: headhunt23 at January 27, 2010 11:25 AM (OMCBg)

31
My formula is an 8 percent reduction of expenditures across all government discretionary and entitlement programs per year for at least three years running.
This includes everything, SS, Medicare, and the military budget.  About the only exemption would be health benefits for vets.  They served and risked life and limb, they've earned it.  I know downsizing the military has risks, but I would
live with a reduction rather than have a fiscal meltdown which would leave us bankrupt with nothing to defend ourselves.

Basically this is a 25 percent reduction in overall spending phased over 3 years.
It would allow people depending on government to make adjustments. Because it is universal, everyone would take a hit, and we would send a strong signal to the market that the U.S. was serious about turning its economy around, and would provide a predictability.  Do this for a period of time and the economy would grow and start generating growth and income which would backfill the rest of the deficit.



Posted by: Mr. Peabody at January 27, 2010 11:26 AM (f3GW1)

32

18 No, it isn't.  A light year is a measure of disctance, not time.

He probably meant 20,000 leagues.

 

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at January 27, 2010 11:27 AM (pZEar)

33 Right... I know there is a down side to overconfidence, but personally I think there is a bigger upside in enthusiasm and belief in good outcomes.

The smackdown HillBuzz posted about AoSHQ shows some fruit?

Posted by: darii at January 27, 2010 11:28 AM (RdrW8)

34 What tee's me off most about the GOP is their Washington top-down mentality.  Has anyone ever joined any of the national organizations that are GOP related?  All you get is form letters with some former GOP bigwig who probably is either a talking head or a member of a Washington think tank begging you for money.  Try writing them or calling them up for some help or information and you get the cold shoulder.

I've lived in New Hampshire which used to be solid GOP for twenty years and to which I was registered.  Never a personal phone call from anyone.

The tea party movement has a chance to change the dynamic.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at January 27, 2010 11:33 AM (f3GW1)

35

Why oh why can't the GOP take an opportunity and run with it?

Part of the reason is the MSM does what it can to promote Republican wedge issues, so Republican spokesfolks are given every opportunity to give an opinion on issues that piss off one or more of their internal factions.  Also, any soundbites that put them in a bad light generally will be mercilessly promoted throughout the networks.  See Palin, Sarah and Couric, Catty. 

This means Republicans have to demonstrate an extremely high degree of message focus without also coming off like doofs who won't give a straight answer to a question (about abortion, social security cuts, birth certificates, etc).  Quite a few of them aren't up to the task.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at January 27, 2010 11:35 AM (pZEar)

36

"...but a month is a light-year in politics.”

No, it isn't.  A light year is a measure of disctance, not time.

Posted by: Overly persnickity dude at January 27, 2010 03:12 PM (PReJ3)

How about a month is a PARSEC in politics?

Posted by: George Lucas at January 27, 2010 11:36 AM (7BU4a)

37

1) Lower Taxes
2) Shrink the size, scope and reach of the Federal Government
3) Fiscal Responsibility
4) Strong National Defense
5) Fire Keep  Michael Steele away from any live mikes.

Fixed that for you.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 27, 2010 11:37 AM (MUloE)

38

If the GOP would just run on the following everything will work out.

1) Lower Taxes
2) Shrink the size, scope and reach of the Federal Government
3) Fiscal Responsibility
4) Strong National Defense

That. Is. All.

A good start, but not enough.

5) Secure the border. Just secure it. We can discuss what to do with the illegals already here later.

6) *Real* health care reform (medical savings accounts, interstate insurance plans, tort reform)

7) Drill here, and drill now. Debunk Global Warming for the fraud it is.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 27, 2010 11:37 AM (ujg0T)

39 There's a big difference from 1994. The Dems have Barry this time around. And he's a real game changer.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2010 11:39 AM (1Jaio)

40 Haha!  Once again my evil plan to doom Democrats succeeds.

In another 20 years the voters will once again sleep ... and you can try and pass me again!  Hahahaha!

Posted by: Health Care at January 27, 2010 11:47 AM (YMZjg)

41
What I loved about Scott Brown's acceptance speech?  Authenticity.
He wasn't afraid to hammer at the democrat's weak points.

*Giving terrorists greater access to our constitution than ordinary Americans get.
= losing issue for the Democrats.

*Raising Taxes (unless you're in Oregon)
= Losing issue for the Democrats

*Government run/tax payer funded health care "reform"
= Losing issue for the Democrats.

*Raising taxes, fees and vilifying whole industries all while scaring the crap out of ordinary Americans and their businesses = What he Democrats do best- And it's a losing issue.

*Out of control government spending:
= Losing issue for the Democrats.

Back room deals to union buddies and lobbyists:
= Losing issue for the Democrats.

Promising transparency and then closing the door and expecting the media to cover.
= Losing issue for the Democrats.


FOCUS! It's easy.  Birther crap = gift to the left.




Posted by: Pre Paid Sex Monster at January 27, 2010 11:48 AM (0fzsA)

42 Can we just farm out the entire RNC and Steele and bring it the guys that ran Scott Browns campaign. Because unless I missed something, they never put a foot wrong and crushed Coakley in terms of counter punching the inevitable smears. As opposed to Steele who would've said ,"maybe Martha has a point".

Posted by: jjshaka at January 27, 2010 11:51 AM (3rSzP)

43

32
My formula is an 8 percent reduction of expenditures across all government discretionary and entitlement programs per year for at least three years running.
This includes everything, SS, Medicare, and the military budget.  About the only exemption would be health benefits for vets.  They served and risked life and limb, they've earned it.  I know downsizing the military has risks, but I would
live with a reduction rather than have a fiscal meltdown which would leave us bankrupt with nothing to defend ourselves.

Basically this is a 25 percent reduction in overall spending phased over 3 years.
It would allow people depending on government to make adjustments. Because it is universal, everyone would take a hit, and we would send a strong signal to the market that the U.S. was serious about turning its economy around, and would provide a predictability.  Do this for a period of time and the economy would grow and start generating growth and income which would backfill the rest of the deficit.

We tried to advocate that in the '80s. Every night, the "third segment" of every MSM broadcast zoomed in on some widow or gov't-funded orphanage or disabled asthmatic who would die, die, DIE if Reagan's evil plan went through. Popular support for spending cuts withered day-by-day under the onslaught.

And don't forget the army of federal employees and consultants who followed every "no" to a constituent with "because of the budget cuts." Enough people don't get what they want, they start blaming somebody.

Great idea, to cut spending. Politically possible? No.

All that's worked in the past is to hold spending to the level of inflation, and foster a growing economy whose tax receipts soar without rising rates.

As for a permanent fix, I don't know. Even Republicans overspend once they get used to controlling things.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 27, 2010 11:56 AM (2QFX4)

44

I have every confidence that the RNC will find a way to lose it by "going toward the middle" and alienating their base.

Posted by: barbelle at January 27, 2010 11:57 AM (qF8q3)

45 It's "persnickety."

I realized that after I pressed "post."

 

Plus you misspelled distance.

Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2010 11:58 AM (7DB+a)

46 Frankly I hope we don't win control.

I want enough in office to prevent the most disastrous legislation, but a Dem majority will accomplish a couple things in no particular order of value:

1 - The Dems own the economy until 2012. If we take a majority and the economy recovers, that will be painted as a success by Obama despite the Rep majority. See: Clinton/Gingrich.  If we maintain a strong minority with a positive and Conservative economic plan, then 2012 is in play to consolidate gains and add a strong majority with a new president.

2 - Forcing R candidates to continue to toe the line ideologically. I'm betting at least some of a new majority would be squishes elected on party lines rather than the actual values of their constituents. I'm not calling for purity -- 7 or 8 principles out of 10 works for me most the time -- but I don't think we accomplish anything by electing the next McCain or Specter in our eagerness to attain a majority.

Posted by: krakatoa at January 27, 2010 11:59 AM (hQbvm)

47 The R's appear to be in position to win, possibly win big, while continuing to embrace socialism-lite.

WAF

Posted by: John Galt at January 27, 2010 12:00 PM (F/4zf)

48

We tried to advocate that in the '80s. Every night, the "third segment" of every MSM broadcast zoomed in on some widow or gov't-funded orphanage or disabled asthmatic who would die, die, DIE if Reagan's evil plan went through. Popular support for spending cuts withered day-by-day under the onslaught.

Rittenhouse is absolutely right. And the Newt Gingrich demonization / governmental showdown of 1995 was much the same.

What Republicans *can* do is:

1. adopt pro-growth policies that mitigate all the doom and gloom

2. Say "NO!!!!!!!!" to any new programs

3. Perhaps destroy the most egregious ones (race-based aid, for example)

All that's worked in the past is to hold spending to the level of inflation, and foster a growing economy whose tax receipts soar without rising rates.

Of course, if you stop inflation, as Uncle Ron did, that helps stop spending. Heck, for a good many commodities prices actually *deflated* during the 1980s.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 27, 2010 12:03 PM (ujg0T)

49 My poor ballsack is not going to like the next 10 months, I can tell already.  Keep them on the run, fellows.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 27, 2010 12:04 PM (wPZU5)

50 "The Democrats were taken by surprise in 1994. That's not gonna happen this year. I predict a 10-15 seat gain in the lower house. And maybe +2 in the upper house." As a concerned lifelong liberal I do not like the direction that my party of old is taking. For the first time ever I will vote Republican and plan to never vote Democrat again. I think the losses will be astronomical for the Democrats this year and all my ex-Democrat friends as well plan to vote Republican for the first time as well.

Posted by: Just Another Poster at January 27, 2010 12:05 PM (NgoAe)

51 << Right... I know there is a down side to overconfidence, but personally I think there is a bigger upside in enthusiasm and belief in good outcomes. >> Really? Because we got called out as punk-ass bitches (or maybe it was bitch-ass punks) for being pessimistic mopes vis-a-vis Scott Brown's chances. I don't know what blog they were reading. We were ready to dip our balls in the results two weeks out. You'd think they would have remembered that.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at January 27, 2010 12:07 PM (FCn6Y)

52 Curmudgeon, Like where your going, but keep it simple and plain. There can be no objection to those 4 issues.

Posted by: McLovin at January 27, 2010 12:08 PM (RwvN1)

53

Like where your going, but keep it simple and plain.

There can be no objection to those 4 issues.

You say 4, I say 7. Given the near miss with socialism both now and 1993, it is time for *real* health care reform, *now*. Given the scamnesty that the Bushyrovie greedheads tried in 2006 and the Obamunists *still* want to try, I say border control is a winner, *now*. Given gas price unease and the fraud of man made global warming debunked, I say energy is a winner, *now*.

I agree we should keep it simple and not get too policy wonky. That comes when we are actually in office again.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 27, 2010 12:15 PM (ujg0T)

54 I'm sure Axelhole and Ploof would like nothing better than to find another Terri Schiavo incident, some opportunity for the hard-core social-con wing of the GOP to commit an unforced error and look really really stupid and cost the GOP ten points on the generic ballot overnight.

Not yet, maybe June. 

Posted by: mrkwong at January 27, 2010 12:18 PM (G8Eo0)

55

I'm sure Axelhole and Ploof would like nothing better than to find another Terri Schiavo incident, some opportunity for the hard-core social-con wing of the GOP to commit an unforced error and look really really stupid and cost the GOP ten points on the generic ballot overnight.

As opposed to the RINO wing pushing "teh ghey rihgts" issues when it is clear the American people reject them. Who really commits the unforced errors?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 27, 2010 12:26 PM (ujg0T)

56

On Big Journalism, Robert(Third) Reich, stated that Fox News did them in 94.

Fox News didn't start till 96.

Looks like Fox started the Crusades, the Inquisition, and both World Wars.

Posted by: chicocano at January 27, 2010 12:28 PM (2n5cq)

57 What I'm hearing is: "This is the best chance for Republicans ever, ever.  So if you don't want to have to choose between a conservative and a RINO, this is the year to push a conservative through the primaries."

There are a couple of instances where this isn't the best strategy, but as long as the conservative isn't a complete dick, if he can win the primary, he can probably win the general.  It also means you can recruit.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 27, 2010 12:41 PM (T0NGe)

58 I don't think I need to say it...

Posted by: Winston Wolf at January 27, 2010 01:00 PM (tf9Ne)

59

Yeah, use the primaries to gid of the rinos...say like McNast in AZ.

Wether you like JD or not, I'd replace McAzzhole with a clown, just get him OUT

Posted by: Serfer62 at January 27, 2010 01:22 PM (HLCnI)

60 the Party of Tranvestite Dislexic Street Walkers has a better chance this year than the Dems

Go, the TSPWD!

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at January 27, 2010 01:51 PM (1bLKF)

61 I heard a rumor out of Jackson, Mississippi that Haley is contemplating a White House run depending who else is in the GOP field in '12.

Former RNC head, two-term governor. He's a possibility if Palin decides to hang back. Doesn't have her name recognition, but a solid choice perhaps.

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