August 04, 2010
— Ace D'oh!
From Michael Tanner, at The Corner:
According to preliminary results, just under 668,000 Missourians voted in favor of Proposition C. Only 578,000 Republicans voted in their party’s primaries. Another 40,000 voters appear to have cast votes on Proposition C without voting in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. So, even if you assume that every single Republican voted for the initiative and every person who didn’t vote in a primary voted for it, at least 40,000 Democrats — more than one in every eight Democratic primary voters — voted against the centerpiece of President Obama’s health-care plan. And these aren’t just any registered Democrats; these are the party activists, the Democratic base.
Thanks to Tami for that.
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Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at August 04, 2010 08:04 AM (YVZlY)
Posted by: The MSM at August 04, 2010 08:05 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Barack Obama at August 04, 2010 08:05 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Dick at August 04, 2010 08:07 AM (Tfxyp)
Posted by: Fuloydo at August 04, 2010 08:09 AM (1J/Do)
Posted by: t-bird at August 04, 2010 08:09 AM (f/uoy)
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at August 04, 2010 08:10 AM (LdYLm)
And their turnout was insignificant against the rest of the state.
Posted by: nickless at August 04, 2010 08:11 AM (MMC8r)
Dumb hicks don't even know what's good for them. Why do they vote against their own self-interest? At least the cats in the inner city are smart and well-reasoned.
Definitely must be a problem informing the public. More tax money spent on advertising/campaigning for the Teh Precedent should do the trick. THIS TIME.
Posted by: gator at August 04, 2010 08:11 AM (aOKEC)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at August 04, 2010 12:04 PM (YVZlY)
The TWO areas that voted 'No' are St. Louis and Kansas City.
Posted by: Tami at August 04, 2010 08:12 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: joncelli at August 04, 2010 08:13 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: the peanut gallery at August 04, 2010 08:14 AM (NurK6)
Posted by: oblig., Republican at August 04, 2010 08:14 AM (x7Ao8)
When is this assclown, Obama going to be removed?
Never. He is never going away. He is the nightmare that you can't run away from. The nightmare that never ends.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 04, 2010 08:14 AM (hsBue)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 04, 2010 08:15 AM (eOXTH)
Any MO's know if the Leftists mounted a big campaign to defeat this question?
Not in MO, but I know that the Dems didn't mount a big effort because there was bitching by activists going into the vote that they were out of pocket on all expenses regarding their efforts.
If nothing else, I think that highlights how people feel about the issue when Dems aren't spinning things to their own ends.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 04, 2010 08:15 AM (olRjO)
Posted by: denny crane at August 04, 2010 08:15 AM (VmtE9)
Posted by: Vic at August 04, 2010 08:16 AM (/jbAw)
For the first time in a long time, I'm proud of Missouri! Heh! One picture is worth a thousand words. I imagine the State Controlled Media is still trying to figure out how to spin this one (of course the obvious charges of racism will be trotted out). I can just picture all the talking heads hunkered down in some dark, dingy bunker.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:16 AM (CfmlF)
But they'd damn sure know how to cornhole.
Posted by: krakatoa at August 04, 2010 08:16 AM (Ej9m3)
Denny, don't you have a Barky birthday party to go to? Now go make Teh Won a birthday cake or something. Or mow the lawn for your mom.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 04, 2010 08:17 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 04, 2010 08:17 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2010 08:17 AM (OlN4e)
figures the crime/welfare ridden kansas city and st. louis.........
In their defense, they do get shot and stabbed so much more than the rest of the state.
Posted by: gator at August 04, 2010 08:18 AM (aOKEC)
http://tinyurl.com/2d56vtk
top line shows content
legend at left
Missouri is roughly centered
Posted by: nine coconuts at August 04, 2010 08:18 AM (DHNp4)
Posted by: denny crane at August 04, 2010 08:18 AM (VmtE9)
So this really was an overwhelming confirmation of how people want Obamacare - Jeez, we have to explain everything to you.
Posted by: msm excuse maker at August 04, 2010 08:18 AM (uJBct)
Posted by: Beltway Bob Gibbs at August 04, 2010 08:18 AM (CfmlF)
Just FYI, East St. Louis is another city in another state. It's been a rancid hellhole for decades, and you can thank Obama's Illinois for that, not Missouri or STL.
Posted by: nickless at August 04, 2010 08:19 AM (MMC8r)
As it stands, though, the fleet will move through after my rescue ride gets here. We might have let you live, but we saw this thing called "Justin Bieber"...
Posted by: Zeta Reticulan Ambassador at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (IkEhE)
Not in MO, but I know that the Dems didn't mount a big effort because there was bitching by activists going into the vote that they were out of pocket on all expenses regarding their efforts.
Very interesting. I wonder why the Democrats didn't defend their Big Fucking Deal.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (uFokq)
There will be a lot written today about Missouri votersÂ’ overwhelming approval of Proposition C, a repudiation of ObamacareÂ’s individual mandate. But the results may be even more devastating for the Democrats than initially thought.
According to preliminary results, just under 668,000 Missourians voted in favor of Proposition C. Only 578,000 Republicans voted in their party’s primaries. Another 40,000 voters appear to have cast votes on Proposition C without voting in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. So, even if you assume that every single Republican voted for the initiative and every person who didn’t vote in a primary voted for it, at least 40,000 Democrats — more than one in every eight Democratic primary voters — voted against the centerpiece of President Obama’s health-care plan. And these aren’t just any registered Democrats; these are the party activists, the Democratic base.
Do we need any more evidence of how unpopular this bill is?
Posted by: Tami at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: dum blond at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (gbCNS)
In their defense, they do get shot and stabbed so much more than the rest of the state.
Necessitating multiple visits to trauma centers annually.
Posted by: Beltway Bob Gibbs at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (CfmlF)
This is no longer a government of the people, by the people. This is an oligarchy telling the subjects what they can do. And what they can spend their money on.
Not surprised at St. Louis or KC. Fucking welfare cities. They lick the chains that bind them.
Posted by: Something Wicked This Way Comes... at August 04, 2010 08:20 AM (Q8oid)
That is exactly what I said on the Monday after they did this.
Posted by: Vic at August 04, 2010 08:21 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2010 08:21 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 04, 2010 08:21 AM (NvFZs)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 04, 2010 08:22 AM (fuw6p)
So I guess this doesn't help Michelle Antoinette? Or her 'fat kids'?/s/ Or her fat ass? /not s/
No worries. She's got a hard life. And needs to enjoy her 60 rooms in Spain.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 04, 2010 08:23 AM (D77s2)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 04, 2010 08:23 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: BH Obama at August 04, 2010 08:23 AM (pELFl)
Posted by: Cicero at August 04, 2010 08:23 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: mongo at August 04, 2010 08:24 AM (+R/zi)
Bureaucracies exist to feed themselves, regardless of their nominal principles.
The only way to keep the tax dollars coming in for the least important of bureaucracies is to threaten to cut the most important. Occasionally the most important cuts have to be made to show us 'proles that they mean business.
Posted by: krakatoa at August 04, 2010 08:24 AM (Ej9m3)
What's the matter with Kansas Missouri?
Posted by: Thomas Frank at August 04, 2010 08:24 AM (PLG2G)
So, even if you assume that every single Republican voted for the initiative and every person who didn’t vote in a primary voted for it, at least 40,000 Democrats — more than one in every eight Democratic primary voters — voted against the centerpiece of President Obama’s health-care plan. And these aren’t just any registered Democrats; these are the party activists, the Democratic base.
Bwhahahaha! I guess those people don't want to risk not keeping the insurance they have and don't want to have their health care choices dictated to them by a bunch of gubamint bureaucrats. Gosh, who knew Death Panels would be so unpopular?
Thank God the people in MO still think like Americans and want freedom and choice and are rejecting the statist agenda.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:24 AM (CfmlF)
CNN is reporting this, and right under the byline is a story about birthers.
i think all news networks keep anti republican and conservatives stories in the can, that way when there is bad news for dems, they can play it in conjunction with the bad news for dems to soften the blow.
Posted by: Ben at August 04, 2010 08:24 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Jean at August 04, 2010 08:25 AM (HsxaI)
Posted by: Slab Manley at August 04, 2010 08:26 AM (BqSr3)
Happy Birthday, Obama.
I notice the MSM, Yahoo news et.al.. are staying away from this huge news story.
When voters speak, the MSM ignores it.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 04, 2010 08:27 AM (0fzsA)
Three black women help two (apparently) cracker cops who had been shot by a brother. Now they are being ostracized as race traitors.
Snitches get stitches, bitches.
Luckily, they will have "FREE" healthcare soon, thanks to the nonracist and people-loving Democrat Party.
Posted by: gator at August 04, 2010 08:28 AM (aOKEC)
That map is racist on so many levels.
Posted by: oh, Hi Mark at August 04, 2010 08:28 AM (LjYhY)
Posted by: the MFM at August 04, 2010 08:29 AM (AZGON)
The real career welfare Americans in the cities who don't know basic math and are ignorant of history all over the world are appreciative of the health care My President has allowed us to have forced upon us through any means possible, be it legal or illegal and will cost massive amounts of money that will be strong-armed out of legitimate businesses and legal citizens and will provide sub-standard health care for everybody except the politicians on the "right" side and the "right" celebrities.
FIFY
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 04, 2010 08:29 AM (hsBue)
Posted by: Beltway Bob Gibbs at August 04, 2010 12:18 PM (CfmlF)
FIFY
Posted by: NM Hick at August 04, 2010 08:29 AM (IzuWw)
From the link:
The officers had been shot. Dontae Morris, a 24-year-old black ex-convict, would be charged in the shootings.
Yup, just another innocent brother in the wrong place at the wrong time being hasseled by the Po Po. No wonder the women have been ostracized by the black community. They are traitors to the race. How could they bring a brother down? I'm sure he was just on the verge of turning his life around.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:30 AM (CfmlF)
We are progressive.
Now, will somebody hand me a sleeve of those Titleists? I've got some important things to do.
Posted by: President Assclown at August 04, 2010 08:30 AM (Q8oid)
And they wonder why my sympathy for the 'downtrodden' has departed the premises. Sheesh.
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 04, 2010 08:30 AM (IkEhE)
CNN is reporting this, and right under the byline is a story about birthers.
i think all news networks keep anti republican and conservatives stories in the can, that way when there is bad news for dems, they can play it in conjunction with the bad news for dems to soften the blow.
Posted by: Ben at August 04, 2010 12:24 PM (wuv1c)
The funny part is that, in every poll about it that I've ever seen, Americans tend to be very sympathetic with the idea that The Precedent is ineligible. Even those who think that the Indonesian Imbecile is Constitutionally eligible, the majority think that there is no earthly reason why the fool shouldn't be forced to release lots of basic information, including the most basic, especially now that he is safely ensconced in the Oval Office, anyway.
The MFM (and many others) thinks that the eligibility argument hurts conservatives, but it doesn't. Most Americans don't understand how someone can occupy the highest office in the land without having to provide the minimal proof that he is eligible.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 04, 2010 08:32 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: NM Hick at August 04, 2010 12:29 PM (IzuWw)
Well, he said that about NYC allowing the building of a mosque in the shadow of The World Trade Center. His boss didn't want to "meddle" in Iran's elections, However, elections in Honduras, Kenya, Afghanistan--were worthy of meddling.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:32 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2010 08:36 AM (AZGON)
Any MO's know if the Leftists mounted a big campaign to defeat this question? Sort of - they moved it off of the November ballot to the primary, because they were afraid it would cost them seats.
I love that this was passed during a primary election--doesn't bode well for Dems in Nov. I'm beginning to think Teh Bamster will declare some kind of national emergency and cancel the General Election. If not, the Dems are going out in a blood soaked blaze of glory during their lame duck session. I'm getting nervous.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:37 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: moviegique at August 04, 2010 08:38 AM (ey5wt)
I really hate these people. With a passion.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 04, 2010 08:40 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: denny crane at August 04, 2010 12:15 PM (VmtE9)
Is a sock.....
Posted by: denny crane at ..... (I+7Zv)
Is the real drooling troll.
Posted by: Tami at August 04, 2010 08:41 AM (VuLos)
So I guess this doesn't help Michelle Antoinette? Or her 'fat kids'?/s/ Or her fat ass? /not s/
No worries. She's got a hard life. And needs to enjoy her 60 rooms in Spain.
Lacey, I saw some pics of Michelle and Sasha getting off the plane. FLATUS is looking a little FATUS--her arms weren't looking toned at all, and she looked thick in the middle. I wonder if the "resort" she's staying at is actually a fat farm--that she's porked up recently, and she needs to lose a few lbs. before she goes out and hits the campaign trail for Dems running for re-election (remember she's the secret weapon). Plus she's ramping up her anti-obesity campaign. She can't be out there looking like a fat cow for that now, can she? (Of course, I'm sure our State Media would cover her with 15 skinny cameras, film her only from the neck up, etc.)
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:42 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2010 08:43 AM (AZGON)
Cuz we can't get enough of that Billy-Bob-Thornton-in- "Slingblade" underbite.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 04, 2010 08:45 AM (5aa4z)
Save it somewhere. I'm sure you'll be able to use it for the real troll soon enough.
Posted by: Tami at August 04, 2010 08:45 AM (VuLos)
I was on a long weekend at the Vineyard.
What's all this talk about Missouri? What'd I miss?
Posted by: bob schieffer
Nothing of any consequence. The cable outlets can handle it.
Posted by: Robert Gibson at August 04, 2010 08:46 AM (R2fpr)
OT: Gates and Buffet announced that they are encouraging billionaires to give half of their money to charity. Not to uncle Sam (they only want Uncle Sam to confiscate everyone else's money) but to private charities ... like Bill Gates' own pathetic charity, perhaps.
I really hate these people. With a passion.
I am so there with you. I hate Bill Gates Sr. (Bill's dad) even more. This douchebag is shilling for a state income tax "on the rich". We get to vote for it. I'm sure the idiots in King, Pierce and Snohomish (the most populous in WA) will screw the rest of the state. This will be on top of our sales tax which in my county is almost 10%.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:48 AM (CfmlF)
The more I see Manchelle, the more I feel sorry for Baracky. Luckily for him he's a pickle licker.
Posted by: gator at August 04, 2010 08:48 AM (aOKEC)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 04, 2010 08:48 AM (9PzaA)
This is why you never, never, never, never, never, NEVER, never trust the fucking government.
Posted by: maddogg at August 04, 2010 08:49 AM (OlN4e)
Cuz we can't get enough of that Billy-Bob-Thornton-in- "Slingblade" underbite.
Ha! I never saw that before. I always saw her as a doppleganger/identical twin brother to Patrick Ewing with Rick Mahorn's butt.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:49 AM (CfmlF)
He married her to get in with the Chicago Machine; I'd say that worked out pretty well in the end.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 04, 2010 08:49 AM (9PzaA)
I've never heard of this guy.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson
Crap. Didn't I used to be a pitcher? Or just an epic sock failure?
Posted by: Robert Gibson at August 04, 2010 08:50 AM (R2fpr)
I know it's the "I'd buy that for a dollar!" Newsweak, but I found it interesting that they think last night was bad for the Tea Party and Republicans in general...
Posted by: Luca Brasi at August 04, 2010 08:50 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Jean at August 04, 2010 08:50 AM (Ef5w3)
Posted by: George Orwell at August 04, 2010 08:51 AM (AZGON)
He married her to get in with the Chicago Machine
The throat bites and hoof-shaped bruises were just a perk?
Posted by: gator at August 04, 2010 08:51 AM (aOKEC)
I don't know that I'd agree with that part. The county as a whole has blacker sections, affluent sections, working-class sections. I've lived here my whole life and have never seen a clear lean to either side on any consistent basis.
Posted by: nickless at August 04, 2010 08:52 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 04, 2010 08:53 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: Ginger at August 04, 2010 08:53 AM (MMgnj)
Posted by: Ginger at August 04, 2010 08:56 AM (MMgnj)
In addition, the ballot language was *terrible*. While I was at the polling station, one of my neighbors asked me which was was the vote against Obamacare, yes or no.
Carnahan got to write the language and it was nearly incomprehensible.
Posted by: someone out there at August 04, 2010 08:56 AM (BChKe)
Do the Carnahans run all of MO? (well....yeeees)
Come on voters - throw out the Carnahans while your at it.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 04, 2010 08:56 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 04, 2010 08:57 AM (9PzaA)
Posted by: someone out there at August 04, 2010 08:58 AM (BChKe)
I still way that Manchelle is Wayne Brady in drag. Has anyone ever seen the two of them together before?
Nah, Wayne Brady has a much more dainty corpus habitus than Michelle.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 08:59 AM (CfmlF)
And so went my vote. But it was interesting to note that Tiahrt's polls weren't good against Moran's, yet Moran only won by a slim margin.
Posted by: dum blond at August 04, 2010 08:59 AM (gbCNS)
Posted by: Ginger at August 04, 2010 09:00 AM (MMgnj)
Posted by: Matt at August 04, 2010 09:00 AM (4z2dt)
The results in MO are great, but the total repeal of Obamacare is the only thing that will give capitalism a chance to survive as far as health care goes.
Posted by: JJ at August 04, 2010 09:01 AM (9qHH3)
In addition, the ballot language was *terrible*. While I was at the polling station, one of my neighbors asked me which was was the vote against Obamacare, yes or no.
Carnahan got to write the language and it was nearly incomprehensible.
I'm sure that was done on purpose. That can help the Dem's legal challenge--people voted the wrong way because they didn't understand. I'm having a "Butterfly Ballot" flashback. The Democrat woman who designed that had to go into hiding because she received so many death threat from our preachers of peace and tolerance.
Posted by: runningrn at August 04, 2010 09:01 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Pete Stark at August 04, 2010 09:04 AM (AZGON)
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Posted by: David Frum at August 04, 2010 09:09 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: nickless at August 04, 2010 12:52
nickless-
I've lived in the county all my life also, (I'm 50), and I'd have to say that it's gotten bluer over the last 35 yrs. Chalk that up to the depopulation of north st louis. It was solidly rep till roughly 1980-85, Roos & McNary. Then there was the PD flogged prostitution scandal (George Peach), and since then, reps have lost their mojo. Combine that with the large influx of n stl blacks, and what you get is a blue (ish) stl county, and a booming red st charles county.
Posted by: rickinstl at August 04, 2010 09:10 AM (0AEWQ)
On the bright side, 30% of zero is still zero. Because I gotta tell you, I never saw a single cop outside of a strip club, bar, or casino in all my time in that third-world hellhole.
That place should be turned into an artillery range without further delay. Or notice.
Posted by: VJay at August 04, 2010 09:15 AM (gQ+XA)
Crap. Didn't I used to be a pitcher? Or just an epic sock failure?
Posted by: Robert GibsonYou used to be in the Rock and Roll Express with me!
Posted by: Ricky Morton at August 04, 2010 09:16 AM (Vol3D)
Crap. Didn't I used to be a pitcher? Or just an epic sock failure?
Posted by: Robert GibsonYou used to be in the Rock and Roll Express with me!
Posted by: Ricky Morton
My image isn't available. This is getting worse. Is there a pize for worst sock of the day? I think that I managed to botch my way to the title.
Posted by: Robert (who am I) Gibson at August 04, 2010 09:23 AM (R2fpr)
JJ, I'm just guessin', but if you take that part out of Obamacare, doesn't the whole thing pretty much unravel from there? I assume it's not a well-engineered, modular piece of legislation.
Posted by: arhooley at August 04, 2010 09:41 AM (6GjHP)
Posted by: John S at August 04, 2010 10:00 AM (+q/hN)
Happy Birthday Prez Dickbag.
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Posted by: grognerd at August 04, 2010 10:26 AM (tJxhQ)
Just keep re-counting until you get it right. That's my motto.
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Any MO's know if the Leftists mounted a big campaign to defeat this question?
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at August 04, 2010 08:03 AM (uFokq)