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October 21, 2010

Great Ad
— Ace

Thanks to rdbrewer, who sidebarred it.

Posted by: Ace at 03:06 PM | Comments (56)
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1 That's so nativist hate speech. ace, you're fired.

Posted by: NPR at October 21, 2010 03:10 PM (Ew1k4)

2 That ROCKS! I love the fact that China is still RED in this video, not Capitalist like certain people at the New York Slimes want you to think they will be soon.

Posted by: jimmytheleg at October 21, 2010 03:11 PM (nGAmY)

3 But how to get it out to the masses who haven't thought about this subject before? We're at a teachable moment, where lots of people who voted Obama are now realizing they made an error -- it would be good to expose them to this ad to help them understand the magnitude and nature of that error.

Posted by: stuiec at October 21, 2010 03:11 PM (7AOgy)

4
flurst

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 21, 2010 03:11 PM (2O5Hd)

Posted by: NPR at October 21, 2010 07:10 PM (Ew1k4)

NPR = Natural Pudding Receptacle.

Posted by: stuiec at October 21, 2010 03:12 PM (7AOgy)

6 The ad is effective. In reality, you could ask once some country owes a certain amount of debt to another country who REALLY has the whip hand. In other words, it's a double boning.

Posted by: Comrade Zombie Arthur at October 21, 2010 03:12 PM (OtkdE)

7

fa rah rah rah rah, rah rah, rah rah

Posted by: Red Ryder at October 21, 2010 03:13 PM (UaxA0)

8 Some of them look more Hispanic to me.

Posted by: Sharron Angle at October 21, 2010 03:13 PM (Z1oBf)

9 OT over at HA apparently Juan now has a new gig at Fox news with lots of 0000 attached to it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 21, 2010 03:14 PM (0q2P7)

10

Teach your children well.

to speak mandarin, that is.

Posted by: s'moron at October 21, 2010 03:14 PM (UaxA0)

11 Great ad and yet deeply depressing.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 03:14 PM (VW9/y)

12 Powerful.

Posted by: Moemo at October 21, 2010 03:14 PM (jYoCE)

13
that would be 64% better if they included the AFL-CIO dink who said there is no deficit

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 21, 2010 03:14 PM (AvO0L)

Outstanding ad!

Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 21, 2010 03:15 PM (A0VTZ)

15 So the future of grunging it out in the deepest reaches space speaking english but swearing in mandarin. It's comming that soon?

_{(When do I get my brown coat?)}

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 21, 2010 03:16 PM (0q2P7)

16 that would be 64% better if they included the AFL-CIO dink who said there is no deficit

Or the dumbfuck (Pete Stark?) who said the more you owe, the wealthier you are.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 21, 2010 03:19 PM (TmVB4)

17
I'm pissed.

There is so much on which we can be going after the Democrats. We're leaving 90% of the scandals, gaffes, and failures on the table.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 21, 2010 03:19 PM (AvO0L)

18
yeah, Waterhose, and Joe Biden saying we need to spend our way into prosperity.

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 21, 2010 03:20 PM (AvO0L)

19 So the future of grunging it out in the deepest reaches space speaking english but swearing in mandarin.

Dibs on the whore!

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 21, 2010 03:20 PM (TmVB4)

20 Juan signs with Fox for $2 million.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2010 03:20 PM (9cflz)

21 I love the fact that China is still RED in this video, not Capitalist like certain people at the New York Slimes want you to think they will be soon.

That's sort of related to the one minor problem in the video-if we go down, China goes down harder because it's "investment" evaporates and it loses the market for its goods. At least I doubt France and Greece are going to pick up the slack.

Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2010 03:21 PM (Ew1k4)

22 A number of the Chinese dynasties failed when they collapsed under the enormous weight of their own bureaucracies - like when 35% of the population worked for the government. It's untenable.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 21, 2010 03:23 PM (ZtwUX)

23 #21 That's sort of related to the one minor problem in the video-if we go down, China goes down harder because it's "investment" evaporates and it loses the market for its goods. At least I doubt France and Greece are going to pick up the slack.

Kind of like that old idiom "If you owe the bank 1,000 dollars, you have a problem. But if you owe the bank 1 million dollars, the bank has a problem".

Except this "bank" may have upwards of 100 million disgruntled people willing to overturn the current government. The ChiComs can't possibly run them all down with tanks.

/In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 21, 2010 03:25 PM (c0A3e)

24 >>That's sort of related to the one minor problem in the video-if we go down, China goes down harder because it's "investment" evaporates and it loses the market for its goods. At least I doubt France and Greece are going to pick up the slack. There's another problem, if China goes down we are boned. Not much talk about it these days because the msm loves the idea that China is surging but most of their growth has been a gov't funded myth. They have a hollow economy that is very close to the tipping point as well. We are in a symbiotic relationship with China now because our addiction to spending and debt and their long term belief of centrally managed economies. It is not going to end well for either of us.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 03:25 PM (VW9/y)

Re: Juan......Hitler used to fire his generals, but they didn't become capitalists.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 21, 2010 03:28 PM (u3Zi5)

26

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Posted by: General Tso of Dallas, TX at October 21, 2010 03:28 PM (v1gw3)

27 25 Re: Juan......Hitler used to fire his generals, but they didn't become capitalists. Posted by: USS Diversity at October 21, 2010 07:28 PM (u3Zi5) They mostly wound up in a piano wire noose, hung from meat hooks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 21, 2010 03:29 PM (9Cooa)

28 Not to worry, Komrade Zerobama is looking out for our best interests! You will all be receiving your Union-made chopsticks and English-to-Chinese handbook along with training how not to offend our new Chinese masters any day now. Drab Mao jackets for all workers! (But you can put a cute anime animal patch on it and it will make life worth living again! Ah-so and OH, MYyyyyyyyyyyy...

Posted by: Clutch at October 21, 2010 03:31 PM (X67eL)

29 Too bad it is actually true and not the typical campaign ad.

We are doomed.

Posted by: Vic at October 21, 2010 03:34 PM (/jbAw)

@23: "Except this "bank" may have upwards of 100 million disgruntled people willing to overturn the current government. The ChiComs can't possibly run them all down with tanks."

Vely obselvant, lound eye. That is why we get imploved missire technorogy flom Plesident Crinton. Plecision-derively chemicar weapons, bitchez!

Posted by: People's Revolutionary Functionary No. 2,165,354 at October 21, 2010 03:39 PM (xy9wk)

31 20 Juan signs with Fox for $2 million.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at October 21, 2010 07:20 PM (9cflz)

Yeah, but they don't tell you that's its $2 million over 40 years. :\

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 21, 2010 03:40 PM (bAySe)

32 Why does this video make me sick to my stomach?

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 21, 2010 03:42 PM (RVfdF)

33 JackStraw

I had read an article about why China keeps buying our debt.

In the article they talked to several of the Chinese honchos that run/barter the trade relations between the US and China, The Chinese think that the US will "R&D" it's way out of this mess. They (China) believe that the US will invent something that changes life as we know it within 10-20 years.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 21, 2010 03:49 PM (RVfdF)

34 They (China) believe that the US will invent something that changes life as we know it within 10-20 years.

So they're basically playing craps.

Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2010 03:54 PM (Ew1k4)

35 Well, the other theory is they'll "buy" the right to defend, say, South Korea for a trillion in debt forgiveness. And then there's Japan. And Taiwan.

Posted by: Al at October 21, 2010 03:59 PM (MzQOZ)

36 >>Rickshaw Jack at October 21, 2010 07:49 PM (RVfdF) Possibly. But I tend to think the answer is simpler. When you own a countries debt, you own them in the most fundamental and powerful way without ever firing a shot. When you give up the ownership and the control of your destiny to another country what do you really have?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 04:00 PM (VW9/y)

37 Great ad, except for the part of Chinese being anything but a massive circle jerk in 2030. That thing sort of happens when you abort your chicks and only have dudes roaming around looking for anything to fuck. And Chinese owning American debt. How does that contribute to world domination? The whole premise of the spot is that America fell into the shit hole. And this is suppose the make China the economic superman? It's kind of like owning all the Confederate dollars in the world? . Want the fuck is that going to do for you? To put it another way...

Step 1: Corner the market on the most worthless sovereign debt. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit.

Look, no doubt Democrats are driving this country down down down. But to compare our economy with China's is laughable. China is the biggest house of cards propped up by mindless central planning, and murderous social policies. China is always 30 seconds away from complete collapse (And when it does, it won't be good for anyone).

Thus, this ad is bullshit as it reeks of a Perot-like understanding of world economies, and fails to distinquish the ever increasing terrible central planning here in the US with China's criminally preposterous central planning. The implication is absurd. Chinese bullshit is certainly no better than ours. To believe otherwise, you would have likely suffered from long-term carbon monoxide inhalation or are Thomas Friedman.

Posted by: Dr. Love at October 21, 2010 04:01 PM (STTZD)

@37: "When you give up the ownership and the control of your destiny to another country what do you really have?"

A large nuclear arsenal, the fact that you're still the only country in history to use that sort of thing in combat, and the bulk of the population of your largest creditor (who currently lack any meaningful second strike capability) in nicely massed urban centers.

So yeah, they can tweak our balls over the debt, but only so far - if they actually put our nation at risk, we might decide that they've outlived their usefulness, especially if we have no other means of responding. It's MAD in a slightly different format.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 21, 2010 04:05 PM (xy9wk)

@39 A large nuclear arsenal, the fact that you're still the only country in history to use that sort of thing in combat, and the bulk of the population of your largest creditor (who currently lack any meaningful second strike capability) in nicely massed urban centers.

Uh uh... How'd that work out for the Soviet Union? Oh wait, it ain't the Soviet Union any more, is it...

Posted by: newguy40 at October 21, 2010 04:08 PM (PNWSP)

40 Yeah...@37..think about it...We only have to appease China if we want them to buy more debt. But for the debt they already bought, caveat emptor mother fucker. So the choice for China's all-male chorus line: Start a war to enslave us or shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Dr. Love at October 21, 2010 04:13 PM (STTZD)

41 >>A large nuclear arsenal You've got to be joking. You honestly think the United States would launch a nuclear attack, a first strike, over our inability to meet our sovereign debt? I'm a tad skeptical over that outcome.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 04:13 PM (VW9/y)

42 Is this ad well funded? Will it run nationally?

This commerical, plus the "Mourning in America" ad is all we need to seal the deal on this election. Run those wide and often nationally, and all voters will have the same thing on their mind on Nov. 2.

Its a brutal ad. Brutally truthful.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 21, 2010 04:16 PM (bAySe)

43 Btw, what's that glass tablet thing that student using in the audience? I want that for Xmas.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 21, 2010 04:20 PM (bAySe)

44 The debt to China debacle is just more proof that Obama doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Why the fuck did he think we've always lent money to desperate nations in strategic areas, knowing we'd never get it back? LEVERAGE! It's all about leverage.

Now they have it.

I can't fucking believe we find ourselves in this position.

Posted by: jmflynny at October 21, 2010 04:28 PM (bM9l4)

45 >>We only have to appease China if we want them to buy more debt But we do. They already own close to a trillion dollars in our debt and that number grows monthly. Who exactly do you think continues to fund our monthly budget deficits? The Chinese own almost a trillion followed closely by the Japanese. The Brits are relative pikers at only close to $300 billion. Our only solutions so far have been to print more money and keep interest rates depressed but that is a stalling tactic not a solution. We have a trillion dollar a year crack habit and China is our dealer. I honestly don't think most people understand how fucked we are.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 04:40 PM (VW9/y)

46 As someone mentioned above, it wouldn't do for them to lose their biggest trading partner, so that's on our side.

I was at an industry conference the past several days (a typically conservative industry) and the panel of economists put to rest the notion that the US doesn't produce anything anymore and that all the manufacturing has moved to China. The US is still number one with 24% of all output. A large part of China's growth, substantial growth, has been in proportion to the manufacturing outsourcing from Japan, of all things. I didn't see that coming. And, of course, they are manufacturing a bunch of shit products: Think dollar store trinkets.

I feel quite certain that they are the world's leader in producing those rubber piles of dog crap and those little ping pong paddles with the ball that's attached with a rubber band. Keep in mind: In China, Buick is a luxury brand.

Posted by: jmflynny at October 21, 2010 04:43 PM (bM9l4)

47 44...

Whatever it is you can bet it was dreamed up by someone in the U.S.

Are Chinese even permitted to dream, or do they have to keep a little tablet by their beds in order to jot down their nocturnal crimes and report themselves to the authorities.

Posted by: jmflynny at October 21, 2010 04:46 PM (bM9l4)

48 >>I was at an industry conference the past several days (a typically conservative industry) and the panel of economists put to rest the notion that the US doesn't produce anything anymore and that all the manufacturing has moved to China. I was in the UAE last week, I'll be heading back soon. There is a good chance we will be moving a substantial part of our manufacturing there. Not because we want to or because it's cheaper. We are being forced to consider options such as this because the US DOT is putting restrictions on our company that none of our international competitors face. We have been fighting this for years and I can't begin to describe the insanity of dealing with the US gov't, particularly now, it defies description. But the long and short of it is the US gov't is forcing us to move manufacturing jobs, good jobs with benefits that we pay, overseas. More people on unemployment while dickheads like Obama rail against evil capitalists. And our debt grows.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 21, 2010 05:00 PM (VW9/y)

49 Yellow peril!

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at October 21, 2010 05:00 PM (+lsX1)

50 U.S. DOT?

They are devastating the trucking industry by imposing one stifling piece of regulation after another: EOBRs, new low-emission engines, idling rules Hours-of-Service reduction, "Comprehensive" Safety Analysis 2010. Don't even get me started on what the west coast politicians, environmental wackos and Jimmy Hoffa Jr. have combined to do to the drayage industry.

If they're putting any portion of the hurt on your industry/company as they've place upon the backs of truckers, God Bless ya, because they are seemingly out to cripple those poor folk.

I'm a huge fan of trains, and of intermodal in particular, but damnit, there's isn't a train around that can deliver a load of tube socks to the back of a local Target. And, intermodal doesn't have the capacity to take up the slack. It's as if DC has no idea how crucial the supply chain is to the functioning of this economy. Or perhaps they know precisely how important it is and know that by crippling the chain, they can force a particular way of life upon the citizenry.

Any way you slice it, the end result is not pretty.

Posted by: jmflynny at October 21, 2010 05:15 PM (bM9l4)

I'm a huge fan of trains, and of intermodal in particular, but damnit, there's isn't a train around that can deliver a load of tube socks to the back of a local Target. And, intermodal doesn't have the capacity to take up the slack. It's as if DC has no idea how crucial the supply chain is to the functioning of this economy. Or perhaps they know precisely how important it is and know that by crippling the chain, they can force a particular way of life upon the citizenry.

Back in the day, every large facility had a railway siding...they just stopped doing that after a while...cheaper to let the trucking do it, I guess.

Posted by: CanaDave at October 21, 2010 05:25 PM (RcdvG)

52 Joining late.

That ad gets to the heart of the matter. Does it make me uncomfortable? Absolutely, yes. What about you?

I think JackStraw nailed it:

When you own a countries debt, you own them in the most fundamental and powerful way without ever firing a shot. When you give up the ownership and the control of your destiny to another country what do you really have?

Be the fuckin' wave and let's make an attempt to do something about it.

Posted by: NM Hick at October 21, 2010 05:49 PM (IzuWw)

53 While I'm against government waste and consider probably 75% of all government spending to be waste or worse, here's a problem with this ad: China owns only a small portion of our national debt. Not most of it. Most of our debt is domestically owned. About 33% of it is owned by foreigners (43% of public-owned debt). Of the portion that is foreign owned, China owns under 21%. Of total debt, China owns under 6.5%; of debt owned by the public (excludes intragovernmentally held), China owns 9.5%. So "of course, we owned most of their debt" is not even close to being true. It never has been. And China is shedding US debt ownership. It isn't on the way to being true that China owns most of our debt.

Posted by: D1Stewart at October 21, 2010 09:10 PM (l6DpZ)

54 Somebody please show me the historical evidence that owning a defaulted sovereign debt turns out to be great, wonderful move for the country holding the debt?

Posted by: Dr. Love at October 22, 2010 02:00 AM (STTZD)

55 should be posted on facebook

Posted by: pstland at October 23, 2010 06:42 AM (Hiy/i)

56 Ed Hardy Ed Hardy Womens Jeans Ed Hardy Womens T-Shirts Ed Hardy Bags

Posted by: akven at October 23, 2010 09:38 PM (CcEvM)

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