1

If Weiner and Schumer aren't talking then there is a big problem.

But thanks for putting their names together. Now I'll spend the rest of the day deciding which one I find more cringe worthy.

2

It is imperative that Bloomberg and his ilk go on the offensive here, because if too many Americans start to realize that Islam is an orientalistic conspiracy hell-bent on destroying everything in its path, then it won't be too long after that before most Americans start scratching their heads and wondering whether the same isn't true of Bolshevik-Phariseeism.

 

3 You need to correct the headline, intolerance to any religion besides Christianity.

4 These same people make it a virtue to slander Christians.

5 Say the KKK would like to open an office next door to the site where MLK was shot.

Still okay?

6 If some Southern evangelical mega-church was going in there they'd crap themselves with fury.

7 Liberals are hypocrites, News @ 11.

8 Should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion?

Ah.  WEASEL WORDS ALERT.

Communities all across the country interfere with church construction ALL THE TIME, usually cloaked in zoning language.  Bing it.  Google it.  Pick a bale of cotton.

Anti-Christian bigotry is just fine.

9 Yeah, as soon as we can build churches in Mecca, maybe we'll let them build a mosque at ground zero.
And while we're talking tolerance, how's about Iraq and Afghanistan change their laws making proselytizing and converting to any religion other than Islam death penalty offenses.
the bigotry against Christians shown by the  State Department in letting that go by was mind boggling.

10 Drew, maybe you should pay attention and check out where one of the GOP candidates for Governor has already proposed eminent domaining the property to prevent the community center from being built.

What the hell do you call that?

11 Also remember the ACLU sueing to take down that cross? Now they support this shit.

12

Apparently, we must be tolerant of Islam's imperative that they build mosques on the sites of great Muslim victories.  9/11, to Muslims, represents the greatest Muslim victory in centuries.  Just ask the Imam organizing this triumphalist slap in the face -- when he's off-camera. 

As for his Imperial NooYockish Majesty, Bloomberg, apparently he is afraid his new friends will saw his head off -- why else is he exhorting us to tolerate the intolerable? 

Let us erect a building next to the Mosque/Cordoba house, dedicated, of course, to "tolerance and understanding" and christen (yes, christen) it the Roncesvalles/Vienna/Lepanto House.  

13 If asshole Bloomberg is so high on freedom to allow religion perhaps he will be willing to allow creche scenes all over NYC during Christmas. Perhaps he will allow posting of the ten commandments in NYC courthouses. Perhaps he will allow adherents of the Caribbean religion Santeria to sacrifice chickens and hogs in the street near the mosque.

or perhaps he is a hypocritical jackass and should be mocked and made fun of.

In any case, since NYC routinely elects Democrats with 95% vote averages, even after 9-11, perhaps they deserve what they are getting. 

14

I'm wondering how symbolic Bloomberg/Schumer/Weiner et al find allowing this mosque at ground zero. Is it meant to show that NY jews are more enlightened than Israeli jews and therefore should be less of a target? Is it appeasment or do they really want to "tolerate" radical islam? Do they grasp how tolerant islam is of judism? Richard Cohen just wrote a column defending the mosque. It seems like all the NY jews are competing with each other to like the islamists more.

15 10 Community center??? Hahahaahah its a fucking mosque you dumbass

16 There is a new building on the Washington mall; Institute of Peace or something. The Government, both Federal and DC, went out of their way to ensure a Christian church wasn't built on that ground - I don't recall the media getting all worked up.

17 i wonder how my freedom of speech would be tolerated if i stood across the street from the future mosque holding a sign that says, "Remember those murdered on 911" while praying the rosary.....i'm sure i'd never be accosted by the islamists across the street or made to leave by the nypd///////

18 What the hell do you call that? A good start

19

From Bloomberg's remarks:

“Whatever you may think of the proposed mosque and community center, lost in the heat of the debate has been a basic question: Should government attempt to deny private citizens the right to build a house of worship on private property based on their particular religion? That may happen in other countries, but we should never allow it to happen here."

What if it's not private citizens?  What if the financing for this goes directly back to the government or government affiliated group in Saudi Arabia.  What if this is a government-financed attempt to undermine the rule of law in this country, by introducing a Sharia embracing cultural center in New York City?

To quote Bill Murray: "It just doesn't matter!"

20 You need to correct the headline, intolerance to any religion besides Christianity.

"Tolerance" these days seems to include bashing Jews, too...

21 i wonder how my freedom of speech would be tolerated if i stood across the street from the future mosque holding a sign that says, "Remember those murdered on 911" while praying the rosary

Loitering with a hate crime qualifier.

22 America is falling apart before my very eyes. The ignorant masses, aided and abetted by the media and academia, have elevated dangerous ideologues and megalomaniacs to the heights of power and influence in our government. The virulent pathogen that is political correctness is overwhelming the patient.  

23 So, if the Branch Davidians had just said, "Hey, we're Muslim," that would have been okay with Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, I guess.

24

It's an affront.You need any more evidence just  look at the name.  It shows us as the weak horse. We will pay for that. However it will be built. Let's turn it into the equivilent of the UN. Every time there is an attempted bombing we form to protest in front of the building.

25

I'm wondering how symbolic Bloomberg/Schumer/Weiner et al find allowing this mosque at ground zero.

Let me try to make this point a little more bluntly: If Americans wake up to the fact that the Muslims have an agenda which results in the destruction of this country, then they might also wake up to the fact that the tribe of Bloomberg/Schumer/Weiner et al has its own agenda to destroy this country.

And that's why it's imperative that Bloomberg/Schumer/Weiner et al continue to do their dirty work behind the veil of multiculturalism.

The presence of Islam and all other manner of evil allows the Bolshevik-Phariseeical Nihilists to thrive behind the scenes [as the puppet masters, pulling all the strings of their various puppets, not the least of whom is Barry Soetoro Dunham].

If you start eliminating evils like Islam, then logical consistency would require that you also go after evils like Bolshevik-Phariseeical Nihilism.

 

26 America's leaders don't have the guts to acknowledge that Islam is not a religion, but a hostile political movement aimed at destroying western society. Until we're honest about the true nature of islam, shit like this is going to keep happening.

27

Within Freedom of Religion, MUST be the Freedom to speak out AGAINST religions you find objectionable.

Islam is not "just" a religion... its a Political/Philisophical movement having discreet aims of Conquest.... but unlike Naziism or Communism, it had gained the protected status of being a Religion....

Until we recognize it for what it is... NOT JUST a Religion... we cannot fight it... and now are supposed to remain silent on it as well?

28

Soon, Liberals will argue that Muslims have a right to be judged under Islamic Sharia law and not our constitution.  God Almighty, why are Liberals hell bent on the entire destruction and collapse of the greatest country known to mankind?

29 if this is the case, would bloomberg be happy to defend my right to run a bacon stand on the public sidewalk in front of it?

30

God Almighty, why are Liberals hell bent on the entire destruction and collapse of the greatest country known to mankind?

Because they are nihilists, and the nature of nihilism is Death.

 

31 would bloomberg be happy to defend my right to run a bacon stand on the public sidewalk in front of it?

By definition, bacon contains salt.

32 When libs got nothing, they throw the word "intolerance" around freely.  Just call 'em on it.  When they start to stutter, just remind them that BULLSHIT is not 'facts'.

33

It is going to be strange when the next NYC 9/11 happens. 

 

34
I wonder how they will get union labor to build this mosque and how are they going to get the fire departments to respond to the daily evening fires?

35 I seriously doubt that it will ever be built.

They still have to deal with NYC construction workers, teamsters, longshoremen, stevedores, waste disposal, etc., etc. and the unions and the supply centers and all the rest that will be facing boycotts if they so much as lend a hammer to anyone involved on this project.

Then there are the career bureaucrats - the inspectors for plumbing, electrical, fire code, OSHA safety, you name it - as well as the snafus that can entangle paperwork for weeks and months.

But if they ever do get it built, I think they most of Greenwich Village - and (of course) Naked Singing Cowboy right out in front to welcome them all to the community - since it is a "community center" (snortle) and not a private property mosque, after all. (snort)

The Mayor may be willing to allow this poke in the eye, but your average Nuh Yawker WON'T.

36 It's pretty shocking that something like this has actually turned into a partisan issue. Liberals are now taking this as a cause of their own because of their perceived illegitimacy of the offense. They are determined to insist that because we shouldn't be offended the damn mosque should be built. I don't mind saying it. I don't like Islam. I just don't know how tolerant you can be with a group so inherently intolerant. Their ideology is simply incompatible with western culture. I get the feeling they know that full well and are vying for a much power position for when our culture finally figures it out.

37 I was speaking with a friend of mine from NY just yesterday about this and he swears that the people of NY will rise up about it.  He got his eyes opened in Kuwait after Gulf 1 when one of his friends was given 30 lashes and thrown unconcious and naken on a plane for the crime of beer.  They were there as part of the teams killing the fires.  I have been glared at for just walking by mosques in Dubai, Cairo and Jakarta.  I wear a big honking skull ring just to hex the superstitious bastards.  They are actually scared of American boys but even GWB got us so pussified that they are losing their fear of us.  Similar to the socialist jerkwads, they just push and push, waiting for the pushback that never comes.  Embolden your enemies.  What a great strategy.

38 oh so NOW the libs discover the first amendment means freedom TO practice religion. Go fig.

39 Unless you are a liberal author and you want to denounce Christianity. That is hunky dory.

40 Liberals are now taking this as a cause of their own because...

the anti-cause has been sold to them as a cause of yours, and they're against you no matter what contrary position that makes them take.

It's always that plain, for Joe Lib-Pack. Their leaders may have other ideas, but they have only one: You eat shit.

41

The screwy rationale that condones the building of a mosque on that site is essentially the exact same screwy rationale that brought about terrorists' strikes on those loonies.  Not that your typical obnoxious New Yorker has enough sense to realize that.

Most New Yorkers are so weird, irrational, stupid, sleazy and flaky that they deserve whatever abuses they get.

42 Everyone who is not muslim is an infidel. Their way is the only way. That is what this war is all about. They are the ones who need 'an education'. 6 of my coworkers were killed by them.

43 Sure the leftist want a Mosque,   How many commie backed mid-east countries attacked a certain western ally?  What was their religion?  Since NYC is run by the Jooos it is not suprising the want this mosque so much.  The "Progressives" want this too.

44 It's funny how much religious tolerance there is on the left. Just ask the people who supported Prop 8 in California

45

Unfortunately, New Yorkers are the ones tolerating this crap.  If public outcry was loud enough and involved enough people that this became a PR nightmare, it wouldn't happen.  The rest of the country can see this mosque for the huge glob of spit in the eye of Lady Liberty that it is, but apparently being an "educated", enlightened New Yorker means you are unable to recognize the wolf in sheep's clothing.  Just wait until those members of the "Religion of Peace" start going after the homosexual population.  Then this level of tolerance won't look like such a good idea!

Freedom loving people everywhere ought to band together and bankroll a number of street vendors to park on every corner around the building and sell pork products.  Hey, if we have to tolerate their crap they have to tolerate our pork!

46 21  With a side order of allowing the offended to beat you before the cops got there -- and get away with it, because they were just reacting to your hateful religious intolerance and racism.

47

You ask to show you bigotry. Well, when you write that "Americans have shown Muslims tolerance," that pretty well sums up the problem. There happen to be some Maericans who ARE Muslim. And when you imply that, because of their religion, they're somehow not American, that -- you guessed it -- bigotry.

48 big deal, screw new york and their crap city, i could care less. there i said it, and i dont feel bad at all either. im tired of the constant praise we have to give that shithole of a place in movies, TV shows, culture etc., its sickening already. you'd think the events of 9/11 would have maybe, oh i dont know, toughened those nimrods up a bit, but alas, the new york roar is harsher than it's little bite. so "eff" em all i say.

i hope the mosque blares the call to prayer daily, 5-times, very loud and obnoxiously so as it can be heard for blocks upon blocks. every time reminding new yorkers just how weak willed and bought off they are. time to concentrate on better places and people, we have boat-loads of em.

new york...you suck, and nobody likes you.

49
  Let's do a scenario here (and I'll bet it will transpire)--the mosque is built, and after a short time, the true story of it's funding comes out. This causes a bit of stir, which dies down. Not long after, disturbing rumors surface about certain imams haranguing their flock and urging jihad. Once more, this is disregarded--just a radical, all religions have them you know.

  And on some bright September day....

50 The REAL CONTROVERSY here is that the WTC site is still a hole in the ground! I believe that that is the main reason for the bad feelings involved here. If the WTC site had been rebuilt, I think people would have come to terms with it and moved on. I think a huge part of the problem is people asking themselves why can a mosque get built in a few months while we are still 9 years staring at a hole in the ground. To many people, this is still an unhealed wound. Whose fault is that?

51 I predict innumerable fire safety inspections at the Cordoba Center, courtesy of the NYFD.

52 I confess to intolerance of all ideologies which promote the murder of my fellow citizens.

53 51- I'd call that "Damnesia". We are damned by those who insist on forgetting.

54 To many people, this is still an unhealed wound. Whose fault is that?"

---it's new yorkers fault, they pay no mind to it no matter how many silly TV specials we have to sit through on the topic. theyre more worried about BEING new yorkers, you know, so tolerant and all that lol what a crock. let's call new york for what it is, EAST SAN FRANCISCO.

the people of pennsylvania were in an uproar over the shanksville flight 93 memorial. no, you didnt see numerous marches or throngs of heaving protests (ummm...'heaving protests'? did i just say that?) but PA-people got the job done. the 'crescent-memorial' is going to be replaced. boom, done.

then you have new york, filled with some of the most annoying people on the face of the planet. (i know how im sounding here, but i think new yorkers need to hear this.) to me, their wimpiness sees no boundaries. with any luck that mosque can be built as a testament to the stupidity of the city and its denizens. a fitting symbol to a place that needs its ego-knocked down a notch or too.

55

48 I am very bigoted against those who would do violence to me...and slightly less bigoted against those who would look the other way while it happened.

If the American Muslims, as a group, do not stand up and join the cause against this bullshit, then I really don't give a rat's ass what happens to them.  They will have proven themselves to not really be Americans in my book.

 

**and yes, I do know some have (some personally)...they usually get ostracized by their co-religionists, even threatened; hmmm....

56 Muslims aren't my enemies. Liberal Americans are my enemies. Fuck New Yorkers!!!

57 51 you have it. Once the Trojan horse is within the walled gates of the city, it is easy to "infiltrate" this mosque. You cannot police them once they're within their Constitutional rights to practice their faith. Imagine the imam giving a Revg. Wright sermon there. Imagine a dance troupe performing one like those of the Sanabel Al-Qud Debka troupe, who performed at the Rashid Khalidi dinner Obama attended in the famous unseen LA Times tape. Imagine these films screened in the 500 seat theater condemn Israel and repeat "Palestinian" propaganda lines. What if Dinnerjacket visited?

58 "Muslims aren't my enemies. Liberal Americans are my enemies. Fuck New Yorkers!!!"

i'm with this guy. and who gives a shit about them? it's not even 'tough-love' or anything like that, more like the idiots in the back yard people are tired of playing with. go and be liberal and stupid new york, just leave already...go make a TV show about yourself, again.

59 52 that's right. Look how much difficulty the first responders are having getting their settlements paid now. I know some of them. 10 years later, and they're just exhibiting symptoms of HPL and undergoing extensive chemo. They're lucky to get 1/3 of their money after the lawyers take their cuts. But there's $100 million for a mosque? What's wrong with the current building? It IS A FUCKING LANDMARK. There aren't too many of these Tribeca/Soho cast iron buildings, and this one was a proposed landmark since 1989. Since its windows were boarded up for years due to damage from landing gear on its roof, it should be landmarked. The building Ayers' pals blew themselves up in is in the West Village, as is the Triangle Shirt Waist Building. Each and every one of these motherfucking board members is bought and paid for and appointed by Bloomberg. If we were interested in healing, the original building would suffice, and it would be truly interfaith, not the pussified Jew dhimmis who condemn Israel and make excuses for Islam. There is another mosque in Tribeca that is pointed out as insufficient to meet the demands for the capacity of the Muslim community living downtown. Oh, and there aren't enough "community centers." They just built a $7 million park at South Street seaport. Most of the residents in these neighborhoods live in doorman buildings with full amenities or have fancy subsidized artistic lifestyles. Bullshit. Glorify this Tribeca mosque that is only open once a week. There's a Greek orthodox church that was destroyed by 911 and can't get past bureaucratic hurdles to rebuild. They had to move to Brooklyn. The fuck this is about freedom of religion. It's a fundraising scam for Muslim developers who know sanctimonious liberals will get on board, but it's blowing up in their faces. Fuck them all. I curse this fucking abomination and every single person involved in this affront. I know tons of Muslims, and my husband lived in Istanbul for two years. In fact, look at Turkey as to whether Muslims respect weakness or not. Once our Apologist In Chief began his world bowing tour, we began seeing our once secular allies conspiring with Iran to run a legal naval blockade and send armed combatants onto "peacekeeping vessels."

60 "Muslims aren't my enemies. Liberal Americans are my enemies. Fuck New Yorkers!!!"

I wish it was just about New York. Our troops are risking their lives in Afghanistan right now because of the events of September 11, 2001.

61 Religious intolerance is the new racism?

Tell that to Islam. Tell that to Marxists.

Karl Marx is the modern embodiment of the serpent in the Garden of Eden.  Taste socialism, and become as the gods who forbade it, saying that if you taste, you shall surely die.

62 Here's something else to chew on. Obama was just in NYC for fundraising dinners with the fashion and publishing communities. Remember the last Sex and the City? "Really, they treat women nice!" There's a campaign underway. Most recently, it was announced that the new WTC will be the Conde Nast (aka Condescending and Nasty) HQ with Vogue edatrix Anna Wintour's new office in the penthouse. That way, the mosque investors needn't worry about property values falling due to overwhelming public disapproval of the project. Obama made sure the fashion world would get their perks and encouraged (bribed) them to support this project. Remember how he told Bloomberg he wouldn't campaign with Bill Thompson, if he agreed to trying KMS in lower Manhattan? I hope this mosque goes just as spectacularly.

63 I wish it was just about New York. Our troops are risking their lives in Afghanistan right now because of the events of September 11, 2001."

---because 9/11 affected AMERICA, not just the dopey city of new york. unfortunately, new yorkers have turned it into another ego-driven "omg look at me, im new york! look what happened to ME!" scenerio. and i think it's time we tell them, LA and san francisco to really just hush the fuck up already. time and time again we have to hear and see just how lovely and cultural that shit hole is, all the while new yorkers consider themselves an isle worthy of deification.

well new york, its not JUST about YOU, youre not the center of universe, never were really. you got a whiney populace, dirty streets, condemned-ratholes you call buildings dotting the landscape and everyone is supposed to love you? lol gimme a break already.

64 Oh, you should have heard Anna Wintour at her local board meetings when Serge Becker wanted to open a restaurant by her townhouse. "I know the loud trashy crowd that will be smoking on the streets till 4am." Racist whorebag.

65 unfortunately, new yorkers have turned it into another ego-driven "omg look at me, im new york! look what happened to ME!" scenerio.

Actually, it's just Manhattan as usual. Many of them moved here after 911.

66 It doesn't matter about the perceived religious intolerance, the property is private and the owner(s) can sell to whomever they please.  Nice comments about the "Fuck New Yorkers"  Well same to you assholes.  Why do you even bother to comment when you don't live here?  Now that's hypocritcal being upset about a Mosque at the WTC, then telling people who live here to fuck off.  Real nice!

67 Actually, it's just Manhattan as usual. Many of them moved here after 911."


--that id have to disagree with, but that's just me and my perceptions of new york based on what i've seen and heard. you may be a new yorker who sides with the betters on this issue, but youre in the minority unfortunately.

there are countless books, TV shows, movies etc that roundly display the once greatness of your city to the Nth degree. even the most back-water, alligator grilling, shotgun toting hick in louisiana has heard of new york's vibrant past. and he's heard it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over through the years. when the new york back-patting subsides, you get...wait for it, LA-back patting! and then you may hear about the wonderful people of say...charleston, SC...oh yeah, those guys.

when a people hijack a terrible event like 9/11 to serve their own bruised ego's i consider it a disgrace, and in the years since 9/11, new york has done this. i wish it weren't so but that's the reality of it. what a selfish place it is, and while i dont wish another 9/11 on any place in this country or it's people, i'm a bit tired of giving a crappy city the crutch of sympathy to lean on.

68 "68 It doesn't matter about the perceived religious intolerance, the property is private and the owner(s) can sell to whomever they please."

---no shit sherlock, nice that you pay attention like that. *eye roll*

" Nice comments about the "Fuck New Yorkers"  Well same to you assholes. "

---and another juicy-"fuck you and your crappy ghetto-city" right back at ya, i could do this all day and smile every time ya know.


"Why do you even bother to comment when you don't live here?"

---translation= WAHHHH why are you saying this?"

"Now that's hypocritcal being upset about a Mosque at the WTC, then telling people who live here to fuck off.  Real nice!"

---its not hypocritical in the least bit. we dont UNDERSTAND how the supposed 'enlightened' citizens of new york could worry about their oh-so-lovely 'tolerance' about a friggin mosque instead of the sacred ground of the WTC. it's ego-driven in every way= "yes it sucks about the WTC, but hey! look at how tolerant and intelligent and just all around GREAT our city and people are!! you should all be like us!!"

new york has run out of it's good will with me and hopefully other americans as well. go and watch another shitty documentary about how wonderful your city is, ill make sure to turn the channel.

69 From Michael Bloomberg to various bloggers and commentators, more than a few liberals have taken to charging those who oppose the Ground Zero Mosque with intolerance and attempting to curtail religious freedom.

LOL.  Islam isn't even a religion.  It's a political ideology with a an attendant mythology that Mohammed stole (and twisted) to give his political ideology instant legitimacy - just like that amazing joke that the desert rat could trace his lineage back thousands of years to Ishmael.  It's funny, and sad, that anyone even accepts such obvious tripe.  The arabs can't even keep accurate records of what happened 20 years ago, yet one is to believe that they understood their geneology for thousands of years as they wandered through the deserts with no writing or record-keeping abilities, at all.

70 You know something? New York took it on the chin for America. The anti-New York vibe here is sickening! New York was attacked, okay? It's a local matter. And for those who say NY is NOT tough for accepting a mosque? What's tougher than that?

71 In a small nut shell.....Mecca was a trade route with various pagan monuments and Mohammad's family had a business catering to the travellers.  He decided to be a prophet for profit and ursurped the traditions and history of Judism and Christianity but he made a complete hash of it.  Those are the "peaceful" Meccan verses.  In 10 years he had amassed about 150 followers and he seethed that he was not accepted but was ridiculed by knowledgeable people.  So they went to Medina and he decided it was more profitable to encourage the desert Arabs to do what they always wanted to do:  raid caravans and farming communities.  As the got the power to do so he slaughtered inoffensive farmers and snarky critics at every opportunity.  The hateful Median verses are that part of the legacy.  The Koran is not even organized.  It was cobbled together with the shortest verses first and longer ones last.  It makes no sense read as compiled.  The Hadiths are supposedly "stuff Mohammed said" and his followers tried to write down and compile them years after he went to his fiery reward.  Murder and theft were codified. 

72 "you may be a new yorker who sides with the betters on this issue, but youre in the minority unfortunately."

I moved to NYC 14 years ago, but I have lived briefly elsewhere from time to time. The majority of that time was spent here, and I know this city inside and out. I lived in Alphabet City during 911. Now, I'm in Brooklyn, because my husband needs a live/work space. Anyway, according to the Quinnipac poll Ace cited, which I had already seen, I'm in the majority.

73 73 He sounds more fucktarded than L. Ron Hubbard.

74 Fuck you, Bill Groupe. You're a pussy. Choke on a goat dick.

75

I seem to recall that a part of the Islamic play book is to build mosques in places they attacked. 

If so, how come no one is pointing this out?

76 I'd like to see someone do a cartoon of Lady Liberty, after seeing this muslim shithouse erected next to Ground Zero, as She's walking away, flip NYFC the bird and tellin' them, "Y'all can go to hell.  I'm going to Texas!!"

I'd buy that on a T-shirt.

77 "New York was attacked, okay? It's a local matter. "

News Flash numb-nuts...  AMERICA was attacked.  That includes those parts and people out here in Flyover Land.  It's just that part of the strike just happened to be in NYFC.

Just another example of that, "It's all about me and NYFC" fucking ego stroking.

I've been to NYFC several times, and it's a shit hole that thinks it's a silver bowl.

78 ill say it again til im blue in the face= FUCK NEW YORK. fuck it right in its ear.

and yes new york did take it on the chin, and you know what? i no longer give one iota of the proverbial fuck. all new yorkers do is use the pity-party sympathy card to soothe yourselves, same way hollywood does. its a pain to see it. go build your mosque and try to be 'tough and proud', the rest of the country will just laugh at ya.

ive been to new york several times over the years, ive tried to like the dump, i really have. but it's always been a ghetto-city with some weird god awful third-grader sense of 'pride'. i mean for god's sakes at least TRY to clean some of the shitty graffiti thats all over the place lol pathetic city and people in my view.

79 News Flash numb-nuts...  AMERICA was attacked.  That includes those parts and people out here in Flyover Land.  It's just that part of the strike just happened to be in NYFC.

Just another example of that, "It's all about me and NYFC" fucking ego stroking.

I've been to NYFC several times, and it's a shit hole that thinks it's a silver bowl."


---what that guy said X100

80

"News Flash numb-nuts...  AMERICA was attacked"

Actually, did you in flyover land lose anybody to the attacks? No -- because most New Yorkers did. For most of America, it was a symbolic attack. For NY, it was a personal attack that killed a lot of friends and destroyed a lot of our city.

 

How can you be upset about dececrating the sacred ground of 9/11 and be so anti-NY at the same time? Ny firefighters and first responders were heroes.

 

81 "How can you be upset about dececrating the sacred ground of 9/11 and be so anti-NY at the same time? Ny firefighters and first responders were heroes."

because in the years SINCE 9/11 all the people of your dumb ass city has done is gripe and moan and complain about being the only ones who suffered.  and dont hand us the sad-story about it being 'personal' oh trust me, we know the 'personal' deal with new york. all you dunderheads do is think of yourselves, that much is very apparent.

wahhh wahhh wahhh look at me, i hurt....BUT IM TOLERANT! YEAH THATS IT! IM TOLERANT!

pussies lol   go clean up your ghettos.

82

The new tolerance is extreme tolerance.  You must tolerate the most intolerant, revanchist, Jew and woman-hating, theocratic religion in the world today to prove you're not a theocrat, or something. 

And I love how those who defend Islam and decry Islamophobia usually lead with a tu quoque argument insulting Judaism or Christianity.  Which doesn't bother me.  It's just hypocrisy and craven dhimmitude on parade.

The mere fact there exists an Organization of the Islamic Conference consisting of 57 member states enforcing sharia law to one degree or another proves, to all those but the most determined idiots, Islam isn't like the other post-Enlightenment religions.  

But I'm used to these back-patting allegedly liberal people being objectively pro-theocratic fascism.  They're damn proud of it.  

Maybe in five years, like Hannity finally noticing sharia, people will notice the irrevocable nature of a land grant to Islam.  Coming last in time of all the major religions, Islam is nothing if not tenacious when it comes to real estate. 

Saudi Arabia is, after all, occupied Jewish land.  I read it in the Quran and ahadith.      

83

1) A mosque at ground zero is a sign of our tolerance—it's what makes America better than, say, Saudi Arabia.

 

2) "and dont hand us the sad-story about it being 'personal'"

 Actually, it's true. if i lost a friend on 9/11 and you didn't, it probably means a lot more to me than it does to you.

3) "go clean up your ghettos"

Not sure if you've been to NY lately. It is the lowest crime city in America. Manhattan is largely ghetto-free, do to the unfortunately high cost of living here. Find me a "ghetto" in Manhattan.

84 "1) A mosque at ground zero is a sign of our tolerance—it's what makes America better than, say, Saudi Arabia."

---BWAHAHAHAHAHA  youre just SO enlightened!  get off of your self righteous pedastal, you dont hug the bully after he steals your lunch money you idiot.

"2) "and dont hand us the sad-story about it being 'personal'"

 Actually, it's true. if i lost a friend on 9/11 and you didn't, it probably means a lot more to me than it does to you."

---omg dude we know, we know about the losses of new yorkers, we really really really do. weve seen it a zillion times since. weve seen the documentaries, the other documentaries, the books, the magazines, the videos, the tributes...we cried right along with you. only difference is, the rest of us toughened up, new yorkers keep crying about it. STFU already.

"Not sure if you've been to NY lately. It is the lowest crime city in America. Manhattan is largely ghetto-free, do to the unfortunately high cost of living here. Find me a "ghetto" in Manhattan."

lowest crime city my ass. my went to new york in 06' and it was the same shithole i saw back in the mid 90's. graffiti everywhere, trash blowing around like you wouldnt believe. dead/decaying old structures nobody's given a fuck about for decades STILL THERE. id rather visit much nicer places, theres plenty of them around.

85 I'm gonna type this real slow, 'cause I can see you can't think too fast...

For most Americans, any attack any where on American soil may as well have happened in our own backyard.

How can you be upset about dececrating the sacred ground of 9/11 and be so anti-NY at the same time?

Ground Zero is just as sacred as Pearl Harbor, and there would be the same uproar if the Japanese wanted to build a shrine to their people who died on 7 DEC 1941 as a big fat "FUCK YOU!" to America. 

The reason NYFC can get fucked is because you people are too self-absorbed, too PC, and too uninformed to realize that this muslim shit house is EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!  Read a fucking history book.  The largest mosques are built at the sites of pisslam's greatest victories.  And this is gonna be a 13 story shit house.

Ny firefighters and first responders were heroes.

I know that.  Tell ya what, Sparky, why don't you go down to the Firehouse that lost almost everybody that day and tell them how proud you are of your support of this obscenity then get back to me with the number of teeth you have left.

86

Hello!  It seems many people forget who suffered.  9/11 was not just NYC.  Have you all forgoten?  Let me see.  Hmmm.  Was DC attacked?  How many people died at Shanksville?  There were plenty  of non-new yorkers killed that day!  They were abourd those planes!  Wake the hell up!!

87 "I know that.  Tell ya what, Sparky, why don't you go down to the Firehouse that lost almost everybody that day and tell them how proud you are of your support of this obscenity then get back to me with the number of teeth you have left"

---- oh christ, dont ask him that one, he'll inevitably come back with the whole "I KNOW ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE THERE THAT DAY AND TRSUT ME, THEYRE VERY TOLERANT DUH HUH HUH HURRRRR"

just wait and see.

88

You're calling me a pussy, but you're SO SENSITIVE, your FEELINGS ight be hurt if a mosque is there? Grow a cock.

89

P.S.

The Cordoba House will be a da'wa center of conversion to Islam. 

Apostasy is still punishable by death in Islam. 

So people like bill are defending the freedom of a religion which punishes freedom of religion as a capital crime.  

90 You're calling me a pussy, but you're SO SENSITIVE, your FEELINGS ight be hurt if a mosque is there? Grow a cock."

yes im calling you and that trash heap of a town you got there one big slathering PUSSY. dont try to do the "i know you are but what am i" crap, it aint working.

arizona= ballz

shanksville and PA= ballz

new orleans and LA= ballzzzzz

the parts of florida that was once hit by a zillion hurricanes and then rebuilt without complaint= ballzzzz

new york= LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!! WE'RE NEW YORK! WAHHH WE'RE BUTT HURT BUT TOLERANT!!

pathetic.

91 Str8, get your overally full, rancid, leaking douche bag outta here and spill your enlightened thoughts somewhere else. You've broken both arms patting yourself on the back and you need a fucking rest.

Cock.

92 "Str8, get your overally full, rancid, leaking douche bag outta here and spill your enlightened thoughts somewhere else. You've broken both arms patting yourself on the back and you need a fucking rest.

Cock."

---how about a healthy "NO" to that one captain?

dont get so dizzy from my rantings, youll forget about it for the most part in a few hours.

....moron.

93 "---how about a healthy "NO" to that one captain?

dont get so dizzy from my rantings, youll forget about it for the most part in a few hours."

Perhaps that would mean more if you hadn't been foaming at the mouth for the last hour with SERIUZ UPPER KASE BIZNESS, trying to get the remaining sand out of your itchy vagina.

Yeah, I'm dizzy alright.

94 1) A mosque at ground zero is a sign of our tolerance—it's what makes America better than, say, Saudi Arabia.

The issue is not their right to practice their religion. It's their use of a location that has specific cultural and political significance. We already know we are better than Saudi Arabia. So did the terrorists when they crashed airplanes into the WTC, the Pentagon and the White House lawn.

95 Perhaps that would mean more if you hadn't been foaming at the mouth for the last hour with SERIUZ UPPER KASE BIZNESS, trying to get the remaining sand out of your itchy vagina.

Yeah, I'm dizzy alright."

well ur not really SUPPOSED to admit youre dizzy you know...

and if you dont like the way im typing and that i had some time to kill, tuff titty.

have some fun for christs sakes...

96 Gotta run str8. I'll check back later.

In the meantime, keep yourself busy by eating the corn out of my shit.

Yours truly.

97 If these were indeed "moderate" muslims they would not be gleefully running roughshod over public opinion and intent on ramming this project down our throats

98 "Grow a cock."

Typical lib with sand in their vagina, back 'em up against the wall with facts, and the attacks start.

Don't hurt my feelings one bit if you want to show how "enlightened you are by allowing a jihadi recruitment and training center in your midst. And have fun listening to that 5X a day caterwauling.

But next time something goes BOOM!! and fucking 'slims all over the world are dancing in the streets again, don't come crying to me, 'cause as far as NYFC is concerned, I'm all out of Give A Fuck.

99 All churches have to comply with local zoning laws in deciding where to build a church.  No religion is allowed to build their house of worship anywhere they want to, all are subject to some restrictions. It's ridiculous to claim that someone opposing the building of a mosque at one particular site is somehow suppressing that religion. 

100 And this is gonna be a 13 story shit house.

The number 13 having Satanic connotations in Christianity. (Betrayal.) While Cordoba was the capital of the Caliphate. This building will be pure evil.

101

The NYC fire department gets PAID.  It is a JOB.  We in fly-over country VOLUNTEER.  We don't get paid 1c.  We do it to protect people.  We don't get paid for training.  We don't get paid for working to make money to run the firehouse.  We don't have health insurance from the fire company, nor life insurance.  It is just as dangerous.  Each community supports each other.  But I guess we don't have brave men in fly-over land.

102 It is the lowest crime city in America. Manhattan is largely ghetto-free, do to the unfortunately high cost of living here.

There's plenty of subsidized housing in NYC. In fact, it's written into the law. And murders have shot up 22 percent over the same period last year. The number of rapes is up more than 11 percent. Felony assault is also up about 6 percent. Bill Groupe, you're a fucking tool. Go suck a dick.

103 New York isn't the only place. Here's a video made in Dearborne, MI about the way the government is restricting freedom of speech there regarding Islam.
Arab Festival 2010: Dearborn Police Defending Islam against the Constitution

104 99 WORD!

105 Guys, stop getting trolled.

106 Guys, stop getting trolled. Posted by: Cincinnatus

AWWW!!!!  Gee Whizz, Dad!!!  You never let me play Whack-A-Troll!!! 

107 Maybe this is a way to protect NYC from getting nuked with a dirty bomb.  After all, would radical Islam nuke a mosque?

108 This guy seems unhinged: str8 outt.  The law is the law, the property owner can sell to whomever he wants, period.  It may not matter how upset people are or how much they protest.  But it's not a done deal yet and maybe something will be found when the funds for the building are looked into or maybe so much pressure will be put on the builders that they will give up and look for another downtown site

109 " This guy seems unhinged: str8 outt.  The law is the law, the property owner can sell to whomever he wants, period."


yeah im unhinged, you got me let me *eye roll* there for ya.


dont try the work-around with the whole "the law is the law" crap, it's just another pathetic excuse in order for good-at-nothing new yorkers to once again back down.  maybe this is the time for that law to be 'challenged' doncha think? but that would require new yorkers to actually stand-up and maybe oh i dont know, protest a little? i mean gosh, so many 'tough guys' up there protested the war til their mouths were dry, why not now?

new york is a worthless piece of shit state, much the same as california, if we can bash and laugh about the bizarro-land on the west coast, we can laugh and bash its twin over here on the east coast.

110 After all, would radical Islam nuke a mosque?

Surely, you've heard of suicide bombings. Same principle at work.

111 All religious buildings have to comply with local zoning laws in deciding where to build. This is nothing new, just tacky Islamic hype.

112 59 I'm going to reference myself here. Instead of this "We'll build the mosque blah blah Saudi Arabia" shit, let's see that fucking LA Times tape.

113 If the shoe of tolerance were on the other foot:

http://alturl.com/7fczk

114 the  passage  read  so  nice!