May 04, 2010
— Jack M. May the Fourth be with you!
And, if my calendar is to be believed, tomorrow will feature the Return of the Fifth.
But that's in the future. And, like any good conservative blogger, I want to talk about the past.
Specifically, yesterday.
If you knew me, and you don't, you would know two things about me: I hate the Phillies and I love Tazers.
So what happens when I get to combine the two subjects? YouTube heaven.
The force was strong with that police officer. I haven't seen a padawan go down that fast since Nathan Lane auditioned for the part of "Hand Solo" in the off-off-Broadway adaptation.
(Don't you wish you were one of my twitter followers now? This is the kind of primo stuff you are missing.)
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Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 10:01 AM (T79Fe)
Heh. GOP sells Crist painting on ebay.
★Canvas is naturally sensitive to changes of temperature and humidity, just as the Charlie Crist’s political convictions are subject to fluctuations in poll numbers.
★Depending upon variety of conditions, the stretch canvas may periodically lose and regain tautness, much like Charlie Crist periodically loosens or regains positions on a variety of issues.
★Ornate gold frame made of manufactured wood, similar to the fabricated conservative values of the politician depicted within.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at May 04, 2010 10:02 AM (JKe0g)
Posted by: Jack M. at May 04, 2010 10:03 AM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: curious at May 04, 2010 10:03 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at May 04, 2010 10:04 AM (I1/U/)
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 02:01 PM (T79Fe)
eh, it depends on if you want pain for 5 seconds or pain for a couple of days as they drop you on your shoulder when they tackle you
Posted by: fartbubble at May 04, 2010 10:04 AM (gAmQ1)
Milwaukee PD needs to implement this policy at Miller Park for Cubs fans. It's boring to wait for someone to scrape them off the field after they get drunk and dive over the railings.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 10:07 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: HeatherRadish
at May 04, 2010 02:07 PM (mR7mk)
not really, it's beer running time so you can make fun of them in line with all the other drunks
Posted by: fartbubble at May 04, 2010 10:08 AM (gAmQ1)
Hey, I'm married to a Cubs fan.
Can I taze her?
Posted by: Bomber at May 04, 2010 10:08 AM (qzoN5)
Posted by: Paladin at May 04, 2010 10:09 AM (XZu3c)
Posted by: dan in michigan at May 04, 2010 10:10 AM (9jRMu)
Posted by: Penfold at May 04, 2010 10:10 AM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 10:11 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Your Typical Philly Sports Fan at May 04, 2010 10:12 AM (RD7QR)
Certainly not a hygienic way to do such an operation.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 10:14 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: contessa at May 04, 2010 10:14 AM (7VvJB)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 04, 2010 10:14 AM (udLJM)
Taser companies should be held accountable and made to come up with solutions. So far all they have to say is "What Us Worry" or "Taser am Safe (my boss told me so)".
The number of deaths and severe injuries, if sustained by a child or an illegal immigrant crossing our border, would raise alarums from here to the U.N. about the threat to world peace an stuff. Some wacky old person off their meds or some miscreant moron gets a wakeup call from DEATH and it's no big deal. Plus cops are using them far too often and when they're really not warranted. The cops are just getting lazy and the procedural boards ALWAYS clear them which only increases the use.
Of course the alternative IS worse but only just, at the rate these things are juicing people for just being idiots. I don't think that being an Idiot deserves the DEATH penalty.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 04, 2010 10:14 AM (fs3Za)
Posted by: Barry H. at May 04, 2010 10:15 AM (UOM48)
I disagree, he should be charged with assault and do 3-5 years. Or at the very least the lazy fat fuck cop should have his Taser taken away and replaced with a treadmill.
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 10:15 AM (T79Fe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 10:16 AM (XuVfH)
That's what she said."
Donkey punch?
Posted by: Hee Haw at May 04, 2010 10:16 AM (yiwQg)
Magnificent!
Fuck him. That Security Guard should get a raise. He covered some ground, waited until he had the perp dead nuts in his sights and had a clear background, then he laid the fuckin' hammer down!
Kudos. I thought he'd be toast after the double--back and goose-step, but that chubby little guy hung in there and tagged out. Good on him. Mall Cop, indeed.
Love it.
...also, fuck all you Yankee haters.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2010 10:16 AM (XB1Vi)
I don't think that being an Idiot deserves the DEATH penalty.
It should though. Take Biden, for example.
Posted by: Damn Skippy at May 04, 2010 10:16 AM (VDgKF)
Where's Dear Leader on this?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:17 AM (UOM48)
Jack, punchlines are punchier when you punch up at the end.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 04, 2010 10:17 AM (zgd5N)
Take Biden, for example.
I LOVE Baseball.
You got an extra Ticket?? I'll go with you...you can help me keep score!
Posted by: Phillie Phan Biden, Joe Biden at May 04, 2010 10:18 AM (XB1Vi)
Posted by: Barack H. Fuck You I Won Obama at May 04, 2010 10:20 AM (udLJM)
Oh, those HORRIBLE police and their DEADLY tasers! The YOUNG man was just showing his EXUBERANCE for the game of baseball! Don't you WISH this would happen at least ONCE an inning? Have someone run onto the field and interrupt the game! It's so PEACEFUL!
We now interrupt for a moment of reality!
Hey, ASSHOLES! You want to run and play unicorn, go to a fucking park.
Posted by: GarandFan at May 04, 2010 10:21 AM (6mwMs)
Posted by: Annabelle at May 04, 2010 10:25 AM (EXUK4)
You need to brush up on the Force Continuum. Tazers are on par with pepper spray and batons. There is yet another level of force between tazers(Level Four) and lethal force(Level Six).
Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2010 10:26 AM (9VSWS)
Posted by: KilltheHippies at May 04, 2010 10:26 AM (VKfXw)
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:26 AM (CfmlF)
Y'all are a bunch of bitches. Guy is out there running around a field of Million plus dollar talent.
Sure - He appears to be a normal douche, but what if he's armed? Stop crying for him and laugh AT him.
He got what he deserved...and thanks to one Philadelphia fan, we get to watch him get his.
"He's Down! The Chump is Down!"
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2010 10:28 AM (XB1Vi)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:28 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at May 04, 2010 10:28 AM (Jdtsu)
Star Wars in ASCII
Yes it's old, and it's incomplete, but it's still funny.
Posted by: Bomber at May 04, 2010 10:29 AM (qzoN5)
Posted by: Jack M. at May 04, 2010 10:31 AM (Ncr1R)
I sure hope this dude isn't an illegal alien. Otherwise, that cop is toast.
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:33 AM (CfmlF)
Where's Dear Leader on this?
Oh now Jane, didn't you know? Poor Bambi's just got so much on his plate right now. Oil spill, economy, attempted terrorist attack. Being prez is hard work. Poor baby. Hope when Michelle tucks him in tonight she remembers to give him his bobo.
Posted by: jewells at May 04, 2010 10:34 AM (l/N7H)
I was really torn about the Cliff Lee trade (he did come to Seattle, but I know that Seattle isn't going anywhere.)
Cliff got stung by his ridiculous agent and Amaro pretending the Phils are too poor to afford both Doc and Lee. Our loss is the Mariners' gain. And Hamels had best get his mind right, or the next kid who runs out on the field will be armed...
ha ha, j/k
Posted by: kallisto at May 04, 2010 10:34 AM (+FkcS)
Posted by: Lord Cheney at May 04, 2010 10:36 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: dan in michigan at May 04, 2010 10:36 AM (9jRMu)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:36 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 10:36 AM (mR7mk)
1 amp at low voltage will kill you in a hurry
But you can't get 1 amp through your body resistance at low voltage. Never happen. You can put your hands across car battery terminals (12 volts, 400 or so amps) and barely feel anything.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2010 10:37 AM (SCcgT)
They say "day 1" but people are saying all over the internet that this is not true...
and the Tennesseans are pretty pissed.
Posted by: curious at May 04, 2010 10:38 AM (p302b)
SklarBrothers Kid runs on the field at a Phillies game and gets tasered. What's worse is that instead of jail time, he got season tix for the Eagles.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 04, 2010 10:38 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 04, 2010 02:37 PM (fx8sm)
Darn impressive!
Mike Cameron used to scale the center wall like that too. His nickname out here in Seattle was "Spiderman."
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:40 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: curious at May 04, 2010 10:40 AM (p302b)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:41 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 04, 2010 02:38 PM (fx8sm)
wish they still had their show on ESPN Classics
Posted by: fartbubble at May 04, 2010 10:41 AM (gAmQ1)
Kid runs on the field at a Phillies game and gets tasered. What's worse is that instead of jail time, he got season tix for the Eagles.
Community organizer?
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:41 AM (CfmlF)
I was at the game. I always cheer the cops instead of the asshole who runs onto the field.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at May 04, 2010 10:43 AM (YmPwQ)
And Hamels had best get his mind right, or the next kid who runs out on the field will be armed...
Bwhahaha!
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:43 AM (CfmlF)
50 mA, or .05A, is enough to cause fibrillation, if the circuit goes through your heart.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 10:44 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 10:46 AM (mka2b)
this really does look stupid.....that kid should never have been tasered.....but the security guard seemed was embarrassed to be out run by the kid...
Posted by: curious at May 04, 2010 10:47 AM (p302b)
Simple concept. Of course they don't get it. If I was a security guard out there, I'd have no idea what the hell this kid was trying to do.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 10:47 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Tommy V at May 04, 2010 10:47 AM (gkc1e)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:49 AM (UOM48)
12 Milwaukee PD needs to implement this policy at Miller Park for Cubs fans. It's boring to wait for someone to scrape them off the field after they get drunk and dive over the railings.
you're just jealous that the Cubbies will take it all this year
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 10:49 AM (gg4j2)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 10:49 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 10:50 AM (ucxC/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 10:51 AM (UOM48)
Granny should've had a taser.
Posted by: Bomber at May 04, 2010 10:51 AM (qzoN5)
Being a jerk is not the same as being a danger to others.
Posted by: Tommy V at May 04, 2010 02:47 PM (gkc1e)
I agree, whatever happened to the 44 magnum dirty harry shot from home plate? Tasers are for sissies.
Posted by: robtr at May 04, 2010 10:51 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: curious at May 04, 2010 10:51 AM (p302b)
Do you have any clue how many of them are injured ( some permanently) by having to wrestle drunken assholes to the ground.
If you don't resist you don't get tazed.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 04, 2010 10:51 AM (tf9Ne)
"Where's Dear Leader on this?"
No shit. Valerie Jarrett ASSURED me on F&F the other week that we have a President who can multi-task.
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 10:54 AM (sPO/s)
The moron level of comfort/acceptance of this tazing varies proportionally with any given moron's belief that he will be on the wrong end of one of those little zappers in the near or not too distant future while at a TBAGGRZ rally.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 10:54 AM (UaxA0)
As if.
But yeah--that's the ignorant, disrespectful, rude behavior Cubs fans (and Phillies fans) bring to Miller Park. Y'all would never sit and smile approvingly at that bullshit at Wrigley...if you could get a ticket to any game at that dump. Heh.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 10:55 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 10:56 AM (OlN4e)
The "kid" wasn't 5 years old and it's not the parents fault he ran on the field, but nice try to blame his idiocy on someone else. By being where he wasn't supposed to be he posed a threat, period. Who knows what the cop thought. I would have thought, fuck this kid he's going down right now.
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 10:56 AM (mka2b)
Problem is, terra ism is affecting everything. the kid didn't think and the cop thought "terra ism"....this is what lack of normalcy is doing to us....
So... next time we see a parked SUV smoking and popping, we shouldn't taze it?
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2010 10:56 AM (SCcgT)
When Hermes taunted me and I had to chase him throughout Olympia, I cut his legs off for his trouble when I caught up to him.
I got a nice pair of boots out of the deal.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 10:56 AM (9hSKh)
you're just jealous that the Cubbies will take it all this year
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 02:49 PM (gg4j2)
there is always next year. I'll be shocked if the Cubs win a World Series as long as I'm alive
Posted by: fartbubble at May 04, 2010 10:56 AM (gAmQ1)
Of course he was. Pokeeston is like command central for Tea Bagger HQ.
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 10:57 AM (CfmlF)
If it was my son tazed I would be happy. I would also blame myself for not properly teaching him the proper way to behave. Then when he got home I would apply non lethal parental force.
Posted by: Pelvis at May 04, 2010 10:57 AM (LlaBi)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 10:58 AM (mka2b)
It's just so darn easy to determine the guy is not a threat after the fact.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (fLHQe)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (Xu5Z7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (ucxC/)
That damn hindsight again - always 20/20.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (9hSKh)
"Apparently now we get to listen to the caterwauling."
Our newest spam-bot carries "cat filters." Maybe they're good for dealing with this?
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (sPO/s)
there is always next year. I'll be shocked if the Cubs win a World Series as long as I'm alive
Keep the faith. I never thought the Phillies would pull off a world series in my lifetime. Let's not talk about last year's series, though....
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:00 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 11:00 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 11:00 AM (ucxC/)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 04, 2010 11:00 AM (RkRxq)
just wait till october haters, cubbie fans will be worse than alabama fans
as far as tazers go, ha, i carried one and yes, i'm depressed i never got to use it
i always thought please, PLEASE!!! let me zap a fool
i wanted to see how many shots does it take to make an idiot wet his pants
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:02 AM (gg4j2)
132 i think the kid is lucky a player didn't kick him with cleats or swing a bat at his head...... Posted by: phoenixgir
There you go, so the cop really prevented the kid from getting his ass kicked by a few major league baseball players. And they can kick some ass.
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:02 AM (mka2b)
Seriously, the kid deserved to get a mouthful of dirt and some bruises, but the fat fucking rent-a-cop drawing a taser bead on the guy because he's too fat to catch him?
Sheer lazy, incompetent fascism.
Sometimes, in society, we need to tolerate a little disorder in teh name of freedom. The impatience of teh American soul---a marriage of laziness, cowardice, and a petulant sense of entitlement---is turning our country into a crappy, quasi-soft totalitarian, nanny state. Red light cameras, tasers of naked fuckers from cops who "just want to make it home at night," morbidly obese "security" guards, it all speaks to the weakening of our collective soul.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:04 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:04 AM (CfmlF)
The moron level of comfort/acceptance of this tazing varies proportionally with any given moron's belief that he will be on the wrong end of one of those little zappers in the near or not too distant future while at a TBAGGRZ rally.
Blow it out yer Teabag!
This type of behaviour begs for a taser. If that guy had stabbed a player and the Security Guard hadn't tased him the same people would be bitching about his fitness level. Demanding to know why a field level Security Guard couldn't run the forty in 5 seconds flat...
Either you make excuses for illegal and inappropriate behaviour or you respect the fucking law.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2010 11:05 AM (XB1Vi)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:05 AM (mka2b)
You have been flagged and filed under "teabagging racist".
Posted by: Barrack Obama at May 04, 2010 11:06 AM (9hSKh)
Did I mention ignorant? Just stop while you're ahead.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 11:06 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 11:06 AM (ucxC/)
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:06 AM (CfmlF)
Sometimes, in society, we need to tolerate a little disorder in teh name of freedom. The impatience of teh American soul---a marriage of laziness, cowardice, and a petulant sense of entitlement---is turning our country into a crappy, quasi-soft totalitarian, nanny state. Red light cameras, tasers of naked fuckers from cops who "just want to make it home at night," morbidly obese "security" guards, it all speaks to the weakening of our collective soul.
That's a pretty lame defense of piss poor behavior and attention whoring. The fans didn't pay money to watch some jerk off prance around the field waving a jacket. Screw the damn fool, he got his just deserts.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:06 AM (OlN4e)
...because criminal trespass during a sporting event and waving a sign at a rally with a permit are exactly the same things?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 11:07 AM (mR7mk)
Either you make excuses for illegal and inappropriate behaviour or you respect the fucking law.
Unless you are in Arizona! (Bada Bing!)
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:08 AM (CfmlF)
I'm sorry, did the cop with the tazer just get labeled a "fascist"?
Good grief what a douchebag.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 04, 2010 11:08 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:09 AM (mka2b)
Sorry fellow morons, my point is not to defend the runner, or say he didn't get what he deserved in a cosmic justice sense. Clearly, the Plilly fan acted stupidly.
No, my point is just how pussified our "protectors" have become.
(see SWAT team called on granny TBAGGRZ)
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:09 AM (UaxA0)
also.
if you can't smack them as a kid?
and you can't tase them when they are adults?
How the fuck are you supposed to learn'em?
Posted by: grandpa garrett at May 04, 2010 11:09 AM (I41/V)
I'm sorry, did the cop with the tazer just get labeled a "fascist"?
Yeah, that didn't take long, huh?
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:10 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:12 AM (mka2b)
Good. That woman ought to be ashamed of herself for lashing out physically at her granddaughter. We don't believe that grandmother/grandchild relationships should be based upon anger and abuse, but upon understanding and love.
Posted by: Pearl Carter & Phil Bailey at May 04, 2010 11:12 AM (udLJM)
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 02:01 PM (T79Fe)
He's a phillys fan, so duh, no shit.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:12 AM (erIg9)
When dropping someone becomes as easy as pushing a button, human nature dictates that people will abuse that power in situations that formerly wouldn't have justified it. By "fascist" I mean the disproportionate use of legally sanctioned physical force. more of a practical epithet instead of a political one here.
The more we get used to security using tasers, the more likely those tasers are going to be used on the wrong people (i.e. you and me) for the wrong reasons.
Again, the jerk got what he deserved, but got it in a way that illustrates teh broader societal problems we are experiencing right now
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:13 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: jakee308 at May 04, 2010 02:14 PM (fs3Za)
Gonna have to disagree with that.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:14 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:15 AM (mka2b)
it's because they get second guessed constantly after putting their lives on the line.
boo fucking hoo. Then they should get a new job and/or train cops with good judgment. I'm sick of seeing stories about people getting killed by tasers when they're naked and they are walking away. I don;t give a fuck how hopped up on PCP they are, unless they are a physical threat, they shouldn't get tased.
Policing (even private security) is a risky occupation. That's why a high school educated person can make 6 figures.
WRT the SWAT/grannies situation, sending out cops in riot armor and full auto weapons outside of the worst of the ghettos is ridiculous. This is the kind of this I'm complaining about, not the dumb ass runner.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:17 AM (UaxA0)
Jake Tapper's Facebook feed has been infested by moonbats. So far, they have said that I'm a tool of the right, I should not be given a platform to speak, I am hateful, I am crazy, my facts are old and I didn't think them up myself.
What's missing? Any refutations!
Same ol' story.
Posted by: Truman North at May 04, 2010 11:18 AM (e8YaH)
The lesson we all need to learn here is a simple one.
If you don't have the moves, aren't willing to get naked, or can't take a few thousand amps, miliamps, volts or whatever...stay off the Fucking Grass!
- Get Off Our Lawn!
Posted by: John Rogers and Al Reach at May 04, 2010 11:18 AM (I41/V)
He was white, so nobody gives a shit.
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:18 AM (mka2b)
I'd have tazed him for so long, he'd think it was a career.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:19 AM (erIg9)
167 i have to disagree
1) security don't use tazers, police use tazers
2) do you know how low on the force ladder tazers really are? stop the lethal force crap, they aren't even close to lethal, i've been tazed and there is no damage at all
3) abuse of force being easier? bullshit, lawyers make it hard as hell to abuse it.
4) what should he have done, a flying tackle which could have possibly injured both of them? a cop is trained to NEVER go on the ground, tazers prevent that
Posted by: navycopjoe's 8yo girl at May 04, 2010 11:19 AM (gg4j2)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:20 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:20 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:21 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:21 AM (OlN4e)
a cop is trained to NEVER go on the ground
Yeah, we wouldn't want grass stains on the BDU now would we?
That's what I'm talking about. Training cops NOT to have any judgment whatsoever.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:21 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:22 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: Delicately Sensitive and Wise Parent at May 04, 2010 11:22 AM (G60Nl)
Sat and watched passively, then offered the perp milk and cookies after he tired himself out from all that running around.
*curls up in corner with Racing Bratwurst stuffie and sniffles*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 11:22 AM (mR7mk)
Have you ever considered blogging?
Posted by: skinbad at May 04, 2010 02:51 PM (xDPzy)
Fucking Twitter. Twitter is for pre-adolescent girls and post-adolescent bois. Twitter is for people who can't string together a thought longer than 140 characters.
Twitter can lick mah balls.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 04, 2010 11:22 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:22 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: robtr at May 04, 2010 11:23 AM (fwSHf)
what should he have done, a flying tackle which could have possibly injured both of them?
The only thing "flying" in that fat fuck's general vicinity is donuts into his mouth.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:23 AM (UaxA0)
This is from a DOJ report on the subject (June 200
"Although exposure to CED is not risk free, there is no conclusive medical evidence within the state of current researc that indicates a high risk of potential injury or death from the direct effects of CED exposure... Therefore, law enforcement need not refrain from deploying CEDs..."
Posted by: Y-not at May 04, 2010 11:23 AM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:23 AM (OlN4e)
Fucking Twitter. Twitter is for pre-adolescent girls and post-adolescent bois. Twitter is for people who can't string together a thought longer than 140 characters.
Twitter can lick mah balls.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 04, 2010 03:22 PM (1fanL)
Megaton Fatty McButterpants is on twitter. need I say more?
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:24 AM (erIg9)
Maybe you should stay off liberal websites and read different stories.
http://tinyurl.com/y7y7nvp
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:24 AM (mka2b)
The cop should have been physically fit enough to capture and restrain him. The dude was still wearing a shirt, was not all that elusive, and not terribly bright. A nice firm wristlock takedown or toss after a shirt grab would have been lovely.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:24 AM (UaxA0)
Study of Deaths following Electro Muscular Disruption, Natl Inst of Justice
CEDs are "conducted energy devices"
Posted by: Y-not at May 04, 2010 11:25 AM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: FUBAR at May 04, 2010 11:25 AM (1fanL)
182 no, when you are on the ground you don't have control of your weapons and it is much easier to take one away
also, imagine all the gear the wears on his belt, you can get severely hurt if you go down on your back, i've experienced it, it hurts bad
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:25 AM (gg4j2)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:25 AM (erIg9)
Big Brother: "Check it, little bro! I ran out on the field during the game!"
Little Brother: "Awesome! Did they chase you?"
Big Brother: "Did they ever! Managers, umpires, the shortstop, and a fat rent-a cop."
Little Brother: "Was he the one that gave you the shocka-nocka?"
Big Brother: "And made me piss my pants and forget my name for three hours. But look! Those dudes from Jackass want to feature the clip on their show! Isn't that awesome?"
Little Brother: "Who won the game, by the way?"
Big Brother: "I dunno. I was kind of out of it for awhile."
Posted by: Monty at May 04, 2010 11:25 AM (4Pleu)
195
The cop should have been physically fit enough to capture and restrain him. The dude was still wearing a shirt, was not all that elusive, and not terribly bright. A nice firm wristlock takedown or toss after a shirt grab would have been lovely.
Yep, followed immediately by several applications of the boot to the rib cage.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:26 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: FUBAR at May 04, 2010 11:27 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 03:26 PM (mka2b)
Can we taze the bitch?
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:27 AM (erIg9)
Can we taze the bitch?
I don't think that would be good enough.
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 11:27 AM (mka2b)
Yep, followed immediately by several applications of the boot to the rib cage.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 03:26 PM (OlN4e)
views, intriguing, newsletter?
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:28 AM (erIg9)
As for Philly players, they should all be tied to steel poles and left on the highest hill in PA during a severe thunderstorm. Let God sort it out.
Posted by: Chris R at May 04, 2010 11:28 AM (AO4qz)
Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 04, 2010
03:27 PM (IhHdM)
because they carried .38s and lead saps to deal with idiots like this.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 11:28 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:30 AM (gg4j2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 11:31 AM (UOM48)
can't watch the vid, kansas.
my point is that cops are tasering everyone and their grandma because its easy. Even when they really don't need to, rather than be inconvenienced.
It's bullshit.
(and given that this is about the only website I go to besides drudge, and has been for about 5-6 years now, I don't have a great deal of experience with the liberal sites)
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:31 AM (UaxA0)
because they carried .38s and lead saps to deal with idiots like this.
My Grand Pappy was a sheriff in a logging town in the 1940's. My Dad allowed he was rough. He only asked once, then out came the sap, and you got dragged off to jail by the hair of your head. It only hurt when you came to in your cell, though....
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:32 AM (OlN4e)
unless they are a physical threat, they shouldn't get tased
Actually, I think tasing was the best thing for him. And hobos. And street-mimes. And white hipsters with dreadlocks. And screaming toddlers in restaurants. And people who yak at each other or on their phones during movies. And old people who want to pay for everything with change and out-of-date coupons. And people who use public toilets and don't flush.
As payback for random annoyances and rudeness, tasers would be perfect. Mace is good too, but has area-of-effect problems that tasers don't.
Posted by: Monty at May 04, 2010 11:33 AM (4Pleu)
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:33 AM (gg4j2)
201 I think there is a Kos troll here.
you are a goddamned retard. I've been here longer than any of you fucks.
Maybe you forget that the praetorian guard are not anyone's buddies but each other's in a free republic.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:34 AM (UaxA0)
And white hipsters with dreadlocks.... And people who yak at each other or on their phones during movies.
I cannot argue with the use of a taser in these two situations.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:35 AM (UaxA0)
Phillies fans are no way as bad as the national press makes us to be.
Iggles fans are another story entirely. And the kid was out on the field to get the crowd pumped, that's all. Were the ballplayers running back to their dugouts in abject terror? Christ almighty it wasn't like the kid was trying to blow up Times Square or something.
Posted by: kallisto at May 04, 2010 11:36 AM (+FkcS)
If Ty Cobb had been on the field, he would simply have beaten the pulp out of the grinning dumbass. Cobb was such a hard-ass he once beat up a cripple in the stands; some snot-nose teenager wouldn't have a chance against the Georgia Peach. (He basically dared Walter Johnson to throw at him, knowing that Johnson was leery of hitting batters. Johnson never took the bait, and Cobb lit him up like a pinball machine more often than not.)
Posted by: Monty at May 04, 2010 11:37 AM (4Pleu)
They should have just had a Kum By Yah, extended hand meeting with the kid. They should have approached him in an open, transparent, non-threatening manner and asked him what the motivating factors were behind his behavior. He probably grew up in poverty, disenfranchised and uneducated. These factors would understandably result in a festering deep seated hatred of America and her freedoms (baseball is the iconic American sport). They should have negotiated with him to leave the field in a peaceful manner, perhaps offering him season tickets, a meet and greet with the players, a stadium tour, some private sessions with the Phillie Phanatic, and some limited edition Phillies memorabilia. I think that would have been a lot more effective than a closed fist around a taser.
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:38 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:39 AM (CfmlF)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 03:32 PM (mka2b)
That's right down the street!
Our cops do a good job shooting the armed suspects. Fucking drunken douchebag got his.
Posted by: garrett over the PA at May 04, 2010 11:39 AM (J/ZXh)
Yep, followed immediately by several applications of the boot to the rib cage.
Posted by: maddoggA couple of shots to the kidneys while he's down would have been a fine lesson. Again, morons, this punk deserved some pain. It's the laziness of the taser I have a problem with.
I guess the typical no-knock raid on the wrong house is just fine too. The homeowner getting shot deserved getting killed for resisting, right?
What the fuck is wrong with you cop fellaters? (I excuse navycopjoe from that crack, since he's justifiably defending his profession)
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:40 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:40 AM (OlN4e)
225 i bet he was a spoiled little rich brat with a bmw with a gangsta rap cd blaring
when cops have to play parent, tazers take the place of a belt
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:41 AM (gg4j2)
What the fuck is wrong with you cop fellaters? (I excuse navycopjoe from that crack, since he's justifiably defending his profession)
My son is a cop, fuckstick. And every day he deals with animals that would bite your ears off and swallow them. So go screw yourself.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 11:42 AM (OlN4e)
What the fuck is wrong with you cop fellaters?
What are you, six years old? I've known good cops, bad cops, and mediocre cops -- most are just guys trying to do the job as best they know how. Back the fuck off.
Posted by: Monty at May 04, 2010 11:43 AM (4Pleu)
Laziness?
So a tool that is non-lethal (and not particularly dangerous to the suspect) and that enables a police officer to stop an out of control suspect without risking himself (the police officer, whose salary we pay) is lazy. Really?
What's your position on high-tech warfare? That's pretty goddamn lazy of our soldiers using drones and fly by wire and automatic weapons.
You say you're concerned about the laziness factor, but I think you're worried about something else, because as far as I can see, the police officer protected a vital resource to the citizens of Philadelpha - himself - while stopping a guy whose intentions were far from clear.
Posted by: Y-not at May 04, 2010 11:45 AM (Kn9r7)
A couple of shots to the kidneys while he's down would have been a fine lesson. Again, morons, this punk deserved some pain
that's known as battery and a cop would be and should be arrested, fired and sued. if you can't contain your anger and emotions you shouldn't have the badge
I guess the typical no-knock raid on the wrong house is just fine too. The homeowner getting shot deserved getting killed for resisting, right?
this very rarely happens but if it happened to me and ten heavy armed guys shouting POLICE SEARCH WARRENT came busting in, i won't go for my gun and if i did they better put me down
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:45 AM (gg4j2)
What's your position on high-tech warfare? That's pretty goddamn lazy of our soldiers using drones and fly by wire and automatic weapons.
Are we TRYING to kill idiots who run onto baseball diamonds?
The farm called; you used up all their straw on those strawmen.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:47 AM (UaxA0)
Are we TRYING to kill idiots who run onto baseball diamonds?
i'm sorry, when did he use his gun? i didn't see that on the video
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:49 AM (gg4j2)
boo fucking hoo. Then they should get a new job and/or train cops with good judgment. I'm sick of seeing stories about people getting killed by tasers when they're naked and they are walking away. I don;t give a fuck how hopped up on PCP they are, unless they are a physical threat, they shouldn't get tased.
We had a sad story here in the Seattle area about 10 years ago. Naked black man running in traffic in suburb east of Seattle, banging on cars and yelling at people. Sherrif's deputy answered the call. (We had just had an incident where a white off cuty cop had killed a black man who was trespassing and who the cop thought was reaching for a gun a few weeks previous which resulted in huge racial tensions and great public outcry). The white deputy was the lone responder. He tried to tase the out of control black man who was high on PCP and other stuff (he'd been smoking "sherms" previously). The taser didn't do squat. Unarmed black dude became armed black dude when he tackled said deputy and grabbed his gun. White deputy, father of small child was fatally wounded.
Posted by: runningrn at May 04, 2010 11:49 AM (CfmlF)
I'd have sicked Pujol's on his soory arse...although Freese is hotter right now
btw...103 years and the sCrUBs will never win, evar
(Cardinals fan
Posted by: Vinny at May 04, 2010 11:50 AM (JQN6b)
What if it was these guys?
Posted by: Bomber at May 04, 2010 11:52 AM (qzoN5)
Monty, I've known more mediocre and bad cops than not, and I don't want them having an easy out to juice up whoever they want to because someone's "resisting." But that's not the point.
The point is that tasers carry a real danger (if rare), and getting scuffed up by running down a goofy fan who's waving around a shirt ("his intentions weren't clear," yeah right, give me a break) and who passed through a metal detector like everyone else is just piss poor judgment. Not unlike sending the SWAT team out on granny.
You guys think cops are your buddies? Fine. Maybe they even are. But for the rest of us, when the 5-0 starts "obeying orders" it's not going to be pleasant. I'd rather not have tasers being an acceptable first line of defense at that point.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:52 AM (UaxA0)
242 in that case, i would have asked to see his badge and id
smart money says i would have been robbed
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:56 AM (gg4j2)
Anybody can yell "POLICE SEARCH WARRANT!", even dumb criminals.
Also, no-knock raids on the wrong house aren't rare enough.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 04, 2010 11:56 AM (9VSWS)
244 i did, remember my statement about never going to the ground because you lose control of your weapons?
these are lessons learned in blood
the one thing you learn quick is someone is going home, i'll take the cops 100% of the timeover the toad
Posted by: policiademarinajose at May 04, 2010 11:59 AM (gg4j2)
"banging on cars and yelling at people."
That is a physical threat. Again, it's all about judgment. A lone cop should not have tried to take him down.
Tragic case, and my heart goes out. But that's the nature of the work. Such sad tales do not justify tasering grandmas, little kids and random idiots on baseball diamonds.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 11:59 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 04, 2010 12:05 PM (7GUOE)
Perhaps you should try: s'idiot, or s'dumbass. You are starting to give morons a bad name.
Posted by: Pelvis at May 04, 2010 12:06 PM (LlaBi)
Here's what is obviously the best picture of the tasing.
http://tinyurl.com/2uh79ye
Good God, the runner is just the quintessential douchebag.
the picture is making me rethink my position.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:07 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: freerangecheese at May 04, 2010 12:08 PM (cFGyS)
since it's about my 6th or 7th nic or so here, I could try lots of things to be different.
You, however, will remain a retard no matter your internet moniker.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:10 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 04, 2010 12:11 PM (SB0V2)
only metaphorical fucking by cops here, polynikes, but yeah, I've had less than stellar encounters with the boys in blue.
going to jail with actual murders for carrying someone else's drivers license can have that effect.
In general, I've found a strong plurality of cops to be dicks who will abuse their power at most opportunities. I see the taser being no different, as the tasering of grandmas, and little kids demonstrates.
Not all, I grant you, are bad. But not all, I argue, are good.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:20 PM (UaxA0)
You wanna know who deserves a good tazin'?
David Stern, the NBA, and all of their sissy gangsta fans.
Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2010 12:23 PM (GwPRU)
Maybe what we need are YouTube videos of the fatal Taser uses. It would be a lot less fucking funny then.
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 12:25 PM (T79Fe)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 04, 2010 12:29 PM (QMtmy)
Oh, it was a legitimate bust, except for the fact that literally a dozen other people in my exact same situation were let go that same place just in the time it took me to sit in the car for a while. And I was polite, respectful, and never caused a bit of problem, either physically or verbally. Cop just wanted to "make an example"
In other words, he was a power-tripping fuckstick.
That's what I talk about when I say "judgment"
It's bad judgment to pull out the taser as a first resort when chasing a (17 year old I just read?) spaz around a baseball field.
I would like to see cops think more than twice about pulling out ol' sparky.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:30 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 12:32 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 04, 2010 04:29 PM (QMtmy)
Dunno, see if you can get tazerboy to hold it for a minute thirty and let us know.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 04, 2010 12:34 PM (erIg9)
Brilliant? Has that EVER happened? Have players subdued streakers? Are players really going to risk injury doing something that isn't their job? It would be too easy to jam a finger or sprain an ankle (or worse) in the process. Doing so would be far from incredibly brilliant. In fact it would be fucking stupid. Like you. Fuck, managers don't even like players starting fights with other players. If I was Charlie Manuel and one of my players tried such a stunt, I'd be so far up his ass he'd have to tiptoe past my wedding ring to take a shit. As if having Chase Utley on the DL would be worth a few minutes of distraction in the Xth inning of one game.
Not that Charlie Manuel can realistically threaten Chase Utley, anyway. But it would still be an ass chewing.
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 12:38 PM (T79Fe)
That tasers fucking kill people, and this kid did not deserve to die. He didn't die, but there was a chance. Would you be so supportive if the cop had whipped out his gun and shot the kid? Granted, that is a far greater chance to kill the guy, but at what percentage point does it cut off? Did he deserve a 1% chance at death? 0.1%? I draw the line at anything greater than zero in this case. Nothing threatening occurred. Being an annoying asshole is not a capital offense.
Posted by: Joe R. at May 04, 2010 12:43 PM (T79Fe)
don't know about an ass kicking, but players have done their part against disruptive "fans"
Rick Monday Saved the Flag 30 Years Ago
By JOE RESNICKThe Associated Press
Saturday,
April 22, 2006; 8:59 PM
LOS ANGELES -- Rick Monday never tires of answering questions about that memorable day 30 years ago, when he performed his own Patriot Act and unwittingly became an icon to millions of American war heroes and their loved ones.
Monday was playing center field for the Chicago Cubs on April 25, 1976, at Dodger Stadium when he noticed two protesters kneeling on the grass in left-center, intending to burn the American flag. He immediately bolted toward them and snatched it away.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:44 PM (UaxA0)
I'm a Phillies Security Supervisor. I'm also a long-time poster, so I can verify that statement. Let me tell you a little about the job, if you care.
Philly deserves it's reputation for idiot fans. There simply is a larger segment in this town than in most other cities I've been (NYC excepted) who want to live up to the asshole sterotype. The funnies part is, 95 percent of the troublemakers are suburbanites from PA or Jersey, or college kids from outside the area altogether.
I've been doing the job for over 20 years now. It's a nice second job (we get paid much better than you'd think), it gets me out of the house for up to 10 days at a time, and frankly, I'm a baseball fan. I like meeting people from other cities and talking about the game. I'm not a power-tripping loser who picks on people because I had a bad day. Same thing with the city Police...we have some guys who are...we try to weed 'em out. I want 3 things...a fast game, a win, and no calls on the walkie-talkie.
As for the cop, I'm sort of in the "imminent danger only" camp.. They probably would have cornered the runner a few seconds later. BUT...and thankfully it was a non-lethal incident....I hope that the video deters other people from doing it, since the criminal charges and $3500 fine doesn't seem to be working.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at May 04, 2010 12:46 PM (YmPwQ)
If I was Charlie Manuel and one of my players tried such a stunt, I'd be so far up his ass he'd have to tiptoe past my wedding ring to take a shit.
He couldn't have been too pleased with Ryan Madson who broke his toe after a blown save in San Fran. He kicked a table, or a locker, or some frigging hard stationary object. Ryan: just work on your slider, hon - don't go beating up the furniture and putting yourself on the DL.
Posted by: kallisto at May 04, 2010 12:49 PM (+FkcS)
Posted by: gebrauchshund at May 04, 2010 12:49 PM (d7k0J)
thanks, Luca. very interesting perspective.
Glad to know you're keeping an eye out for the little cartmans (respect mah authoritah!) on the force.
Posted by: s'moron at May 04, 2010 12:53 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 04, 2010 01:15 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: Tommy V at May 04, 2010 01:48 PM (gkc1e)
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 02:11 PM (+hPIb)
Posted by: Merrittk at May 04, 2010 02:24 PM (RHAp1)
Giving chase, in this event, is a waste of time. Eventually, Joggy McDouchebag is gonna get tired, someone (cop, player, ump, whoever) will catch him, and off the field he goes.
So, do we want this to take 10 minutes? 20? 40? I don't know about you, but I go to a baseball game to watch baseball, not sit around while some shithead makes it on the evening news so he can brag to his shithead frat brothers. How long should the rest of the world wait before using force is permissible to those of you uncomfortable with this incident? Who decides?
If you break a law, you have chosen to accept that there will be consequences. If you hop down onto the field, you *know* that you will be coming off that field in custody. You *know* that, if you evade for long enough, you're gonna piss off the people chasing you. You *know* that, if you piss them off sufficiently, they might not have the gentlest hands when they finally win. And they're gonna win. Because it's a fucking baseball field. With 500,000 fucking lights. And 100,000 fucking witnesses. And 100 fucking cameras.
I have no sympathy for some idiot who decides that his need for attention is worth inconveniencing everyone else at the game. Even if it is innocent, and he's not going to hurt someone.
The cop's job was to put an end to the incident. Quickly, effectively, and with unquestioned authority. Done. The cop did not "escalate" this matter by pulling the tazer. Joggy McDouchebag escalated the matter with each passing second, by continuing to evade authorities.
I am okay with all of this, because I am a law-abiding citizen who has ever-dwindling patience for people who feel that rules...set, standard, common-sense rules like "don't disrupt a fucking baseball game"...don't apply to them.
Grannies at a 9/12 rally do not deserve to get tazed. Not because I agree with them ideologically, but because they are not breaking any rules. They should, however, be able to stand up to scrutiny, such as proving they've filed whatever permits may be necessary for a demonstration, and maintain a peaceful assembly. If they didn't have their paperwork, and when the cops asked them to leave, they started running around, evading authority, and becoming a general nuisance, then they have crossed a threshold, and now deserve "consequence" for their actions, whatever that may be.
You don't want consequence? Don't do stupid shit.
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 02:38 PM (5npD/)
Posted by: Tommy V at May 04, 2010 03:43 PM (gkc1e)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 04, 2010 04:56 PM (SB0V2)
4 Yes, that young man was certainly deserving of potentially lethal force.
Maybe not... but he and many others like him will probably think twice about being an asshole at a ball game.
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