1 Uh oh. When I've lost Ross Douthat... I may even lose David Frum.

2 I've been on the fence for a while now myself.

3 The First Amendment does not allow you to build a religious monument wherever you like, even if ConEd doesn't own half the property in question.

4 Are Harry's polling numbers down since last week as well?

5 from Chuck at tcoverride dot blogspot .com According to the Center for Nonproliferation Studies, "Moslem and Muslim are basically two different spellings for the same word." But the seemingly arbitrary choice of spellings is a sensitive subject for many followers of Islam. Whereas for most English speakers, the two words are synonymous in meaning, the Arabic roots of the two words are very different. A Muslim in Arabic means "one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means "one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z. Therefore the Taliban, Al queda, and the group trying to build this mosque at ground zero should be referred to as Moslem not Muslim.

6 All of us opposed are bigots and Muslim-hating? All of us? I thought I answered that question already.

7 Even at stopped clock is right twice a day

8 Obama has 2 years and probably believes he is so dreamy, so wonderful there is no way that America can refuse a second date with him. I can't wait until he tries to get to third base!

9 Hey, you know what?  I have no problem being bigoted against those who want to lop my freaking head off and/or build a wall and drop it on me.  Since those in charge of this project appear to be unwilling to denounce those who want to do that, then I'm fine questioning the hell out of their motives. 

10

Well, there is a mid-term election coming up.   Nothing like reading the polls there, Harry deDouchebag.   Sorry, pud, it isn't going to work.

 

11 Sex is an act of love.  So when I say 'Fuck you,' its love, see?

12 My opposition to the mosque stems from Gutfeld wanting to build a bar next door that doesn't serve alcoholic drinks. That's a scourge that needs to end.

13

Maybe some of us are wise enough to reason backwards from effect to intent: If this has the effect of rubbing salt in the wounds of America, maybe that was the intent all along.

 

 

Effect and Cause?

14 Dear Harry,

Call Tom Daschale and he can fill you in on what you aren't supposed to do if you want an administration job after getting your ass handed to you on a silver platter.

15 Of course anyone who opposes this is a racist bigot, with only their base emotions guiding them like some starving Cro-Magnon man wandering the forrest in search of food. Just like any doctor that opposed Obama's health care bill was a foot amputating, tonsil snatching monster. Just like everyone at the tea parties was paid for by insurance companies or was there because someone told them there was a KKK rally going on and they wanted to take part. Just like anyone opposing any of his financial reform was all in favor of "fat cats" at "Wall Street" gorging themselves on ill gotten wealth and laughing at the expense of the poor. Just like anyone that doesn't like huge deficits is just bitter and clingy and hates them some people that look different from them.

16

I look forward to sthitting down at the 'Pink Sthcimitar' with you to discussth our differenthesth of opinion on thisth, Ace.

Shall we sthay - Sthevinisth?

 

 

17 *spoiler alert* after the family struggles with the thing throughout the movie ("marley & me"), in a twisty ending they find they've come to love him and as the "thing" sinks into the earth they say "we love you!" which is an obvious rip-off of terminator II when john connor and his mother say "we love you, termy" as it sinks into the molten metal, but is nevertheless effective here. see MARLEY & ME!

18

Posted by: Mallamutt at August 16, 2010 03:30 PM (OWjjx)

Yep.   I just love how the bags are now talking about the Constitution, and rights.   Where are all those pricks when Christians are being stomped on?

19 As a short-cut for measuring Ruling Class angst, I routinely go to news.google.com and search the articles for "Sarah Palin".  Man, the sinister blogs and the MSM are in a full Helprin melt-down mode.  It's a slo-mo media Three Mile Island.  Nothing, nothing but hate and hurt.

The perfect toxic storm.

20 Sex is an act of love. So when I say 'Fuck you,' its love, see? I love our President.

21

All is not lost, we will prevail in November.

22 "Bigot", "Xenophobe", "Racist", etc do not mean what you think they mean.  These are names people call you when they are leftists and you are winning.

23

Awww...Bloomy's all sad and shit....

NEW YORK (AP) -- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be "a sad day for America" if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site.

Bloomberg has been among a few outspoken elected officials supporting the plans for an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from ground zero.

24 I do hate me some religious freedom. I want all mosque's destroyed, and their foundations melted down and turned into hot dog stands. I want this, and I am totally for it as you notice Obama implies. This mosque only offends me because I hate the Constitution and religious freedom.

25 Where are all those pricks when Christians are being stomped on?

Wearing the boots.

26 To the Cordoba douchenozzles. The Dems may believe that when you piss on their heads and tell them it's raining it is really raining, me not so much.

I guess that make me a bigot.

27 New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be "a sad day for America" if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site. Bloomberg has been among a few outspoken elected officials supporting the plans for an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from ground zero. Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2010 03:35 PM (VuLos) As time goes by I am so glad this asshole is not really Jewish. Jewish in name only.

28 Profile in courage Chuck Schumer has been laying low.

29 O/T:  I was one of the commenters discussing this this morning and it seems there is a new development ....a technicality......"
"Harvard Confirms, They DID NOT Divest its Israel Holdings."It's all at instapundit

figured I'd put the correction here as few go back to the morning threads after they've moved on.

30 I always liked the way the Sikhs deal with mosques.  Raze it to the ground and put up a statue of the monkey-god in the ruins.

31 Hell fuck ya I'm a xenophobe.

I don't want them drippy ass, freak jaw aliens any where near me.

32 This farce doesn't even come close to passing the smell test. There are already over 100 mosques in NYC, 17 in Manhattan alone. What possible need is there for a brand new 13 frigging story mosque in Manhattan? Has there been a unreported surge in Islamic citizens in Gotham? Anyone who thinks this mega mosque is unrelated to the mega mosque that was planned for London (and thankfully canceled) is smoking crack or is willfully stupid. These mosques have been used for years to recruit new followers and foster extremism. Political correctness is going to get us all killed.

33 bloomberg is doing everything you would expect a lame duck mayor to do.

Chuckie hasn't commented about the mosque has he?  Hope he gets the Tom Suozzi treatment...

34 This time next year Dirty Harry will be back to skimming money from the casinos.

35

OH...OH....OH...

Flaming Skull...Ace??

Looks like they may be getting ready to drop plans to build the Victory Mosque.    Don't know how true this is, or anything about this site, but Dave Riehl is linking it from his site.

http://tiny.cc/hbru0

 

 

 

36 chuck has name recognition.  People who aren't familiar with politics see his name and go "oh ok this guy has been pretty good, I'll vote for him"....no research, no nothing, and he gets the vote

37

Where are all those pricks when Christians are being stomped on?

Don't you understand that the Constitution is a living, breathing document that can be folded, spindled and mutilated whenever possible and should be used primarily to beat conservatives about the head and shoulders when it suits libtards?

38
Raze it to the ground and put up a statue of the monkey-god in the ruins.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 16, 2010 03:38 PM (Qp4DT)

Oh yes, THIS would love great in Manhattan.

39 Posted by: Steph at August 16, 2010 03:40 PM (580hG)

They are dropping it probably at the request of the WH and it will be back after the election.  The republicans can't afford to let it be dropped.  They have to make sure they get assurances that it won't be built there, ever.

40 New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be "a sad day for America" if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site.

Mmmm-hmmm. It would almost be his me.

41 They should just put a building up across the street facing the mosque that looks like the sole of a giant shoe.

42
Greg Gutfeld must be devastated to learn the fag bar may not become a reality next to the mosque.  Well, fuck 'um anyway.

43

Curious, if they drop it, now, it will never be built there, as it shouldn't be.   There will never be anything, but overall opposition to it.  

I truly don't care why they decide not to do it, as long as they don't do it.

44

Awww...Bloomy's all sad and shit....

NEW YORK (AP) -- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be "a sad day for America" if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site.

Bloomberg has been among a few outspoken elected officials supporting the plans for an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from ground zero.

Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2010 03:35 PM (VuLos)

My local rag sez Bloomberg will endorse senatorial candidate Joe Sestak.

Time to fix some more popcorn.

OMFG!!!!

From the linked article:

Campaign strategists hope that BloombergÂ’s reputation for non-ideological government will reinforce their argument that Sestak, a former Navy vice admiral in his second House term, is a pragmatic problem-solver rather than a partisan warrior.

45

I misssed the memo on modern secular post-Enlightenment types having to like a particular organized religion.  Having never favored any organized religion it would be pretty strange if I suddenly liked the one which has produced a dozen fatwas saying I can be beheaded or blown to smithereens. 

This is just like the argument I had to vote for Obama to prove I'm not a racist.  Like I'm suddenly going to vote D for the guy who gets 100% from the NEA or SEIU?  My first Democrat vote for president on the most 'progressive' senator?

How am I supposed to like Islam when my first exposure to even the word was the 1979 hostage crisis and chants of "Death to America."  We were suddenly backing these 'freedom fighting' mujahideen (weird word then) in Afghanistan.  Lebanon had a big civil war during this time which made the TV news.  Then Islam showed me the love with the 1983 Lebanon suicide truck bomb carried out by Iranian Pasdaran and the nascent Hizballah.  That made an impression on a young man, modern kamikaze tactics.  Somewhere in there Iran put Rushdie on the death list and murdered his translators. 

Tolerance!  Islam's respect for diversity!

Skipping lots of stuff.

Then we had the Klinghoffer guy.  Oh, I forgot Munich in 1972.  But I was too young to even know the word Islam.  Libya with the whole Lockerbie thing and Reagan's tent air strike.  The Iranian jet and the little Persian Gulf War.  Geez, then it's on to Saddam, the first WTC in  1993.  Embassies in 98.  Cole in 2000.  WTC again.  Iraq again.  Iran again.  Afghanistan again.  Lebanon again in '06..  Oops, forgot Somalia in 1993 with Blackhawk Down.  Not to mention Somalia today.

The 57 states of the OIC reject the UDHR for the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam (1990).  The last two provisions specifically call for sharia _only_.    

And oh yeah, an Arab Muslim genocide of black Africans in Sudan.  Throw in some stealth jihad, sharia, sharia finance, and Muslim Brotherhood plans for destroying our constitution and miserable house from within using our own laws against us.... and... and...   

What reasonable conclusion should I draw about Islam?   

 

46

Quote Bloomberg:  it would be "a sad day for America" if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site.

No. It was a sad day for America (among other things) when 19 islamofascists flew airplanes into buildings attempting to maximize civilian casualties.

The mosque organizers considering reloaction to a less culturally inflamitory site is just a case of sanity breaking out in an insane world.

47 Great post Ace. The good news is that this charade of "tolerance" by our self appointed betters will die at the hands of the commoners that they despise - the hardhats who refuse to build it,the firefighter who is suing and the anti terror cops who find the smoking gun via Rauf's funding.

48 All of us opposed are bigots and Muslim-hating? All of us? Including a majority of Democrats?

Well, sure.  To the revolutionary vanguard, most of us are the Great Unwashed.

That's why they're the vanguard and we aren't.

49 Has Bloomberg had his clitorectomy yet?  If the Mayor wants to build bridges let's start with his junk before the next 4 year old girl gets the razor blade.

50 new idea. let them build it. then build the new WTC so damn big that the mosque is permanently in its shadow. optics

51 Tami: "NEW YORK (AP) -- New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says it would be 'a sad day for America' if opponents successfully kill plans for a mosque proposed near the World Trade Center site."

"Bloomberg has been among a few outspoken elected officials supporting the plans for an Islamic center and mosque two blocks from ground zero."

The question(s) now is(are), "What financial interest does Bloomberg have in emerging markets, say in Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries? Is he looking to establish more investments? Or introduce Bloomberg Middle East, a financial channel for all traders and corporatists?"

For a Mayor who lived in the city that was historically attacked by murderous ideologues, he's taking a most questionable path - perhaps an anti-American one while hiding behind freedom of religion, something I've never seen him advocate before now. IOW, I question his timing. He's in his last term as mayor of NY. Surely he'll want to cultivate personal financial interests again and more intensely, and if you see America's balance sheet, you can bet he'll be looking for foreign money if he can find it.

52

A Muslim in Arabic means "one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means "one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.

Yeah, that's about right. We're typing in an Indo-European language; Arabic is written in the manner of the Semites. It's not quite true that "Arabic doesn't do vowels" but, they handle vowels differently. The vowel in Arabic is written with a signifier and the nearest consonant will change how the vowel is spoken.

This is most clear with the emphatic consonants: d, t, s, z. (Those underscores here are expressed as dots.) You make an O face when you say them. So a "u" ends up sounding like an "o". Try it!

So, if you are hearing "musslim" then you know it is spelt "muslim" in Semitic. But if you're hearing "mozlim" then you are dealing with the emphatic consonant z, and its Semitic spelling would be "muzlim" with a dot under the z. And yes, the zâlimûn are sinners.

53 Obama has taken "two steps forward" for the progressives/communism, now those running for office this year can take "one step back".

Obama does have that Lenin jutted jaw thing going on ...

54 or maybe I have that backwards ... same point though  LOL

55 Didn't the first America welcome them as long as they were servants and didn't actually live in the neighborhood?  They wouldn't hire American minorities to nanny their children but a third worlder, why heck yes.  In Illinois, the first America would live on the North Shore and be reliably liberal.   

56 Somebody on another thread suggested a site on the Hamptons-is this doable. 

57

I dunno if there's any connection with Harry's statement, but his church has some experience in this kind of thing: The Mountain Meadows Massacre. And it would be great if Muslims followed their example instead of building their victory mosque.  http://tinyurl.com/2bwp2uk

58
Reid spokesman: "First Amendment protects freedom of religion. Sen Reid respects that but thinks .. mosque should be built someplace else"


Sycophant Junction sure to ignore this...

59 Civil. War.

Shake well and serve chilled.

60 Bloomberg has been promised something, and he has ambitions for national politics, if he's going to stump for Democrats now.

61 Chris Christie has weighed in on the mosque and decided making the Dems own this issue is in poor taste and just plain mean. Allahpundit agrees.

62

Harry.....we're hoping the Searchlight is dimmed....

FOREVER ......you wizened, rheumy old toad.

63 Yeah, I'm sure the muzzies are considering relocating that pest hole - right up until AFTER the upcoming election.  Then it will be back to business as usual for the muzzies and their trained dhimmicraps.

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