1 I've only lived in a socialist country for a few minutes and I already hate it.

2 It'll be fine. We have an Executive Order.

3 OT but omg you guys...seen over at FDL:

kills me to say this..

Go Republicans! Obstruct this bailout to death!

and:

Yep, letÂ’s hope they have an evil plot to kill it.

4 So this thing is even more of a house of cards than originally thought. Typical dem scheme.

5

It is amazing. The far left blogs hate the bill. The far right blogs hate the bill. The centrist blogs hate the bill. Congress passes the bill.

 

6 I blame the evil Juice.

7
Yo Scott McInnis:  Want to win?  Make this your biggest issue.  Clobber that fraud Hickenlooper with his whining about "but you voted for Medicaid".

8 Freddy Kruger has nightmares about me bitches.

9 "Abort Stupak" strategery question--For people outside of Michigan-1, is it better to pick one of Stupak's two GOP challengers and donate now, or wait until the people have made their choice in the August 3 primary?

10 So, is there any hope we can tie this thing up in litigation for the next 50 years?

11 If we get 37 legislatures on board why not just make a constitutional amendment banning it!

12 I've said it before--fuck the crooked gummed English and their fucking socialist heroes for implementing the NHS model.  (NB:  I just had to see what the BBC commenters were saying--Brits are so incalculably stupid as to not even conceive of their own demise). 

13 I just experienced an unintentional moment of hilarity: I'm sitting here feeling pretty bummed out, and what song comes on my random-play bluegrass playlist? Jimmy Martin doing "All The Good Times are Past and Gone". Serendipity, baby. All the good times are past and gone All the good times are o'er All the good times are past and gone Little darlin' don't you weep no more I wish to the Lord I'd never been born Or died when I was young I never would have seen your sparkling blue eyes Or heard your lying tongue All the good times are past and gone All the good times are o'er All the good times are past and gone Little darlin' don't you weep no more

14 Democrat lemming scum: Straight over the cliff and into Hell.

15 They said Prohibition was forever too.  They even amended the Constitution to enact it.

It's never over.  Not while the opposition draws breath.

16 9" class="hP">Meet Judpak's Opponent... a 30-year Republican surgeon
Dan Benishek for Congress
802 Pentoga Trail
Crystal Falls, MI 49920

phone: 906-265-0272
email: benishekforcongress@gmail.com
facebook: http://tinyurl.com/yhb8oht

Time to start donating money.

17

Are any of the governors, AGs of the states getting ready to sue over individual mandates democrats?

Thanks for the information.

18 If we get 37 legislatures on board why not just make a constitutional amendment banning it! Awesome idea.

19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

20 Instapundit links a Corner post that says, "Stupak folds". That's the problem with bluffing: you've got nowhere to go if someone calls your bluff. And the problem is, Stupak is so gutless he folded before he saw the other guy's cards.

21 What's next? Figuring out where to move. Virginia sounds better than Texas, weather-wise.

22 Anyone catch Stupid talking to Greta when she asked about "preexisting conditions" and it appeared the bill only covered "preexisting conditions" for children? She asked him "children or adults", then he said children and then he evaded.

So here's what's built into the system, my peeps:

Further down the line when the system is inevitably going bankrupt....

Because preexisting conditions for kids must be covered, all wombs will eventually have to be screened for certain "preexisting conditions". If that condition falls into a certain category, then because that "future" child must be covered under the terms of the bill, what follows is the federally funded mandatory abortion to save society the burden. It's built in. It's a feature and not a bug. Call me whatever you want. This is why I believe abortion is covered in the bill by the party of death.

23 "If we get 37 legislatures on board why not just make a constitutional amendment banning it!"

If I just win 3 huge lotteries today, why not buy a Bugatti Veyron and hire Megan Fox for a weekend of straight sexual favors?

Sounds good to me.

See, isn't this "planning" thing fun?

24

It is amazing. The far left blogs hate the bill. The far right blogs hate the bill. The centrist blogs hate the bill. Congress passes the bill.

Perhaps it's not too late to see if we can buy that Obama statue from the Indonesians...since we're building monuments to his presidency, that is.

"Malaise Forever".

If I had the chops like Slu, I'd mock up that Simpson's Jimmeh-Carter as Marge statue to look like teh Prescedent. 

... maybe hang a Sycacuse Oranj, Man! Jersey on it, as well.

25 http://tinyurl.com/6qkhky

26 http://3.ly/ohfn

David Corn

Stupak deal is the biggest nothing-burger. No calories. #hcr

——-
http://3.ly/0Mx2

Ezra Klein

The Stupak negotiations have been vaguely farcical from the beginning, as the bill is already very restrictive on abortion. But the upside of the farce is that the deal theyÂ’ve reached isnÂ’t particularly objectionable: Barack Obama will sign an executive order stating, essentially, that the law will follow the law.

——–

Daily KosÂ…

WhatÂ’s particularly galling here is that the executive order reiterates the Senate bill, which Stupak could have accepted weeks ago.

http://3.ly/qQXV

——

Everyone should keep looking for lefty commentary on this Executive Order dealÂ…

27 They said Prohibition was forever too. They even amended the Constitution to enact it. America was half as big then (a lot smaller House), and a far different place politically and ethically/philosophically than it is now. And the Volstead Act took something away that most Americans liked or at least were ambivalent about (booze); it wasn't an entitlement program.

28
What's next?  We all ban together and help each other - state to state.

This is from Reynold's blog:

Watch the momentum on StupakÂ’s opponentÂ’s facebook page.  Dr. Dan Benishek is running against Stupak in Michigan. Check out the velocity of his growth since Stupak announced: Benishek for Congress

His membership is currently growing at a rate of about 20 new members every 30-60 seconds and incoming comments are fast and furious. People are begging him to set up his donation site so that they can start a money bomb.

I've never been this fired up.  I am joining every group I can join, I will give what ever amount of money I can give, and most of all, I am going to give my time and advise to every candidate that will help right this wrong.

29 Miss me yet?

30 phone: 906-265-0272
email: benishekforcongress@gmail.com
facebook: http://tinyurl.com/yhb8oht

Time to start donating money.

Posted by: enoxo at March 21, 2010 05:42 PM (Aterp)

Umm. I know nothing about this guy, but a congressional candidate with a Gmail address doesn't exactly inspire my confidence.

There's got to be a heavy-hitter willing to go after Stupak. He's in a GOP district, for fuck's sake.

31 What's with Drudge? He hasn't updated his page in a long while. Nothing about Stupak's flip. His head's not really in the game anymore, I guess.

32 I've answered my own "Abort Stupak" strategery question--one's a doctor and one's a lawyer.  QED.

33 To go along with NotAMolly's link:

These bitches are crazy!

34 9 "Abort Stupak" strategery question--For people outside of Michigan-1, is it better to pick one of Stupak's two GOP challengers and donate now, or wait until the people have made their choice in the August 3 primary?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 05:39 PM (OkT2m)

Sorry, but any Democrat who doesn't profess full-bore socialism and mass offing of children is nothing but a stupaker to me.  A lying, cheating scumbag who will screw over his constituents any chance he gets.  The original is just the tip of the iceberg.

Don't let the stupakers get away with their lies.

35

Are any of the governors, AGs of the states getting ready to sue over individual mandates democrats?

Thanks for the information.

Posted by: dnb at March 21, 2010 05:42 PM (/4bpO)

Cuccinelli of Va. said a few weeks ago that he was really looking forward to challenging it constitutionally.The state already passed a law a few months ago saying the mandate would not apply to citizens of Va.

Right now it wouldnt bother me a bit  if they would just say fuck it and secede all together.

36 @18 I think it would only take 34 to call for a convention. A possibility when I saw Patterson of NY come out against the bill (as well as Schwartzenagger) states are gonna be hosed in this boondoggle.

37
Nancy Pelosi spent 2.2 million tax-payer dollars for her public travel over the last two years.

Hey - you know whats cool about Government controlled health care?
IT COSTS MORE.  Just like Nancy Pelosi.

38 Because preexisting conditions for kids must be covered, all wombs will eventually have to be screened for certain "preexisting conditions". If that condition falls into a certain category, then because that "future" child must be covered under the terms of the bill, what follows is the federally funded mandatory abortion to save society the burden.



Oh yeah.  Won't take long at all for "right to abort" to become "responsibility to abort" to become "required to abort."  They won't phrase it that way, they'll just say, "if you give birth to this baby, it can never see a doctor" and then make it a crime for doctors to provide care for such infants.

39 Unborn to Stupak:  "What, we don't even get a kiss?"

40 states are gonna be hosed in this boondoggle.

Posted by: Jollyroger at March 21, 2010 05:48 PM (wJMVP)

Come to papa!

41 As a native Virginian who came to Texas via Connecticut, I say, "Go west-southwest young man."

42 A possibility when I saw Patterson of NY come out against the bill (as well as Schwartzenagger) states are gonna be hosed in this boondoggle.


ChuckU Schumer thinks NY is going to receive billions in federal aid from this bill.

Compared to what they're going to lose from even more people losing their jobs and businesses and choosing to relocate to other states, I can't say.

43 Miss me yet?

Posted by: America at March 21, 2010 05:46 PM (5I0Yr)

Sadly, yes.

44 Toothless and worthless.

When they start throwing around language forbidding the feds from collecting taxes to pay for this, I'll believe they are serious. I mean, big deal: They pass language against forcing people to buy insurance--whooptido--and all the while the citizens of the state are bled dry in taxes paying for the damn thing anyway!

What there ought to be is resolutions calling for the expulsion of all federal enforcement agents from the state--that is, no citizen of our state will be forced to pay any federal taxes--let Obama call in the military to enforce his law and his taxes.
IRS agents--OUT!
Federal Marshalls--OUT!
Border Patrol--OUT!!
Etc.

45 As Gorgeous George said to Tommy:

This will get messy.

46 Slow-motion car wreck.

47 Stupak is so gutless he folded before he saw the other guy's cards.

Posted by: Monty at March 21, 2010 05:44 PM (HQzxr) 

You don't really get poker do you?

48

Now that they have theorized all of the (probably illegal) ways to pass legislation without actually having to actually vote for it - or worse, allowing the Repubs to vote against it - I predict a veritable avalanche of really hip marxist bills to start whizzing their way throught congress.

49 Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 05:39 PM (OkT2m)

Heather, my plan is to research the oppo candidates I am able to and see who looks good in the primaries against these assholes and donate for their primary run if I like what they have to say, but for sure to donate what I can when it comes down to the elections.  I don't have a lot of money, but I figure every little bit helps. 

50 Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2010 05:47 PM


Huh?  He's got two GOP challengers.  One of them is getting my money; I'm trying to decide which one (the doctor, not the lawyer, because that's how I roll.  No offense, Malor)

51 Time to misbehave

52 My daughter will be changing her major tomorrow, giving up her dream of being an Occupational Therapist.  All I can do is tell her I tried.  God knows I tried.  I don't want to leave her this shit. 

53 Now, my party has solved the crisis of health care.

We have FINALLY stuck it to the big bad evil satan-worshiping insurance companies

BY FORCING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT.

54

The state already passed a law a few months ago saying the mandate would not apply to citizens of Va.

So what?  Everyone is still gonna get fucked by the taxes.  A state can't challenge the constitutionality of the taxes to pay for everyone else's Kremlincare.  Those several hundred thousand new federal bureaucrats need their fat paychecks and sultanesque bennies, don't they?

55
As a native Virginian who came to Texas via Connecticut, I say, "Go west-southwest young man."

Posted by: Big Daddy at March 21, 2010 05:50 PM (zqZ/M)

Naw, if there is a ghost of a chance of Virginia seceding, I wouldnt want to miss the opportunity to stand on the bank of the Potomac river and give a big giant F-U at Barry Ogabe while giving him the one finger salute and grabbing my crotch.

56 Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 21, 2010 05:46 PM (5I0Yr)

 Didn't Stupak say that some of the arguments Dems where using to convince him to support Obamacare a week ago was that abortions where necessary to keep costs down?

Send him 30 pieces of silver.  or foil.

57

On a positive note :

My Ribs are just about done, and my Red Beans and Rice turned out perfect!

 

 

58 The 1st lawsuits will be by pro-abortion organizations arguing Obama's executive order doesn't trump provisions of the bill.

59 navycopjoe, if you haven't changed your registration by the time I make it to Oahu, I'm going to cut you, deep.

You have 19-days.

60 Naw, if there is a ghost of a chance of Virginia seceding, I wouldnt want to miss the opportunity to stand on the bank of the Potomac river and give a big giant F-U at Barry Ogabe while giving him the one finger salute and grabbing my crotch.

Grab your finger.  It's bigger and more turgid.

61 Abortion is a side-issue in this bill. Don't focus too much on it, regardless of the fireworks today. The bigger catastrophe waiting in the wings is the financial collapse it will inevitably bring as the Boomers continue to age and their health declines. We're going to be funding the old at the expense of the young, which means that the young will either go elsewhere or simply stop contributing. Which is not a good recipe for keeping a civilization on a paying basis. We can keep this shell game going for awhile. At least as long as the suckers who are still working can be fooled into thinking that their own benefits will be there when they retire. But it's a lie: this Ponzi scheme can't go on for more than 20 years or so without a massive cash infusion, either by creation of new wealth (highly unlikely given the anti-business ethos of the Democrats) or by inflation of the currency (bad news if you've invested in T-bills). And taxation makes starting or running a small business a nightmare, and actually hiring full-time employees pure madness. Just remember: just having insurance doesn't equate to actually getting healthcare. Democrats just don't seem to understand that (or they plan to jawbone doctors and hospitals into staying in practice even when it is not profitable to do so -- tyrannies always resort to coercion and force when platitudes fail).

62 ?post=299666

Great blog post number, by the way. Kinda fitting, dontcha think?

63

Like I said on one of the other threads...

 I just hope that the Republicans, Tea Party groups, independent groups and all others on the side of the Constitution start running ads Monday on all of the lefty channels stating what exactly is in this bill along with websites where people can check out the information for themselves....   Oh, and that Michael Steele gets booted out as the RNC Chair and that we get a REAL conservative with the ability to communicate effectively in that position.  Someone not afraid to stand up and debate the communist media and talking heads.

64 The Mayans said I have until 2012. Who'd'a thunk that would be the optimistic view?

65
... no citizen of our state will be forced to pay any [further] federal taxes

Agreed.

66 Is there a list with all the states who have sane governors? 

Also, recommendations on best moving van lines would be helpful. 

67 Sneaky fucking Russians.

68 Would that I lived in one of those states... I live in Libland, where all the statists will vote for this... My congressman directly informed me though, that our penalties and imprisonments for not falling in line for the mandates will, in fact, be civil and not criminal... (Those were his own words, as video'd) These people do realize after they do this, they have to go out in public at some point. Makes me want to start carrying eggs with me at all times.

69 Posted by: PAgirlinNC at March 21, 2010 05:55 PM (GNydv)

Why haven't they done this before?  Why haven't the bloggers been out there with complete dissections of all the bills?  

Sorry I think people are all waiting for some one else to do it cause they are afraid....

70

The state already passed a law a few months ago saying the mandate would not apply to citizens of Va.

So what?  Everyone is still gonna get fucked by the taxes.  A state can't challenge the constitutionality of the taxes to pay for everyone else's Kremlincare.  Those several hundred thousand new federal bureaucrats need their fat paychecks and sultanesque bennies, don't they?

Posted by: VJay at March 21, 2010 05:53 PM (k87Wm)

37 other states have legislation on the table too. The key is, how many of them will stick together on it 'till the end and not cave to the fed? Virginia is hard because the fed has a strong presence here, political as well as miltary. They can make Virginia hurt through $$$$$.

71

 

I think its time to start talking about a DIVORCE.  Split the country in two and let the far leftists pursue their big government dreams on their side.  Those of us Yearning to Breath Free can take the other side and live in relative liberty. 

No suggesting a civil war - we should pursue talks for a split.

 

72

Dennis Miller says everyone should file for a tax extension at the last minute. It's legal, and if enough people do it at once it would shut down the government. Of course, they could just try selling a lot more debt to the Chinese, but I have a feeling that gravy train has rolled down the tracks for the last time.

73 Must read from Mark Steyn.

Congratulations America!  You are all Canadians now.

74 Dems are gonna need more voters that vote for them so now it is on to amnesty.

75
64 Monty. 

You are so right.  Our focus on abortion is the hypocrisy and the fact that once again we were left hanging our hopes on a Democrat.  But you are indeed right on.

76

So my options as I see them:

1. Move to Idaho

2. Move to Virginia

3. Become a Christian Scientist

????

I'm not sure I like any of those. I *guess* I could do VA. It's home to rushbabe and Blazer so it's got that going for it.

77 There should definitely be legal challenges. The majority of Americans do not support this bill, and every poll shows this. Congress is ignoring us. It is obvious that congress no longer represents the will of the American people. We, the people, do not have representation in the people's house. They give themselves pay raises, and then raise our taxes to pay for them. They look down on us, yet tell us that they are acting on our behalf, and in our best interests. They refuse to answer their phones, and they do not hold town hall meetings. They do not respect us; they think we are common, and unsophisticated. Because of their refusal to listen to us, we really have no other choice. We must challenge this horrible bill, and advocate for ourselves and future generations. I will be happy to donate any money that I can to a legal challenge. May it drag out for years, and may every single irresponsible member of congress that supported this bill be kicked out of congress by the very people that they have ignored, maligned, dismissed, and disparaged. Their arrogance is astounding, and we should no longer bank roll such hubris.

78 Hiring for Death Panel Members is up 1,000,000% !

79 Posted by: The Dude Abides at March 21, 2010 05:58 PM (QtRBc)

that makes no sense.  If you file a tax extension, they already have your money so that gives them time to continue to use your money.

80 Meg Whitman will win in a landslide in California if she goes along with the anti-Obamacare state legislation tide.

Shes likely to win now though over Moonbeam anyway though.

The states that will ironically push back the hardest will probably be states like California and New York whose liberal governors BEFORE this vote screamed bloody murder about its cost to their respective states...and their representatives failed to give them a Nelson-like deal.

81

Oh yeah.  Won't take long at all for "right to abort" to become "responsibility to abort" to become "required to abort."  They won't phrase it that way, they'll just say, "if you give birth to this baby, it can never see a doctor" and then make it a crime for doctors to provide care for such infants.

We're headed towards 'back-alley births'.  No, I'm not kidding... 

82

Dennis Miller says everyone should file for a tax extension at the last minute. It's legal, and if enough people do it at once it would shut down the government.

Posted by: The Dude Abides at March 21, 2010 05:58 PM (QtRBc)

That wouldn't work.  You're still obligated to pay your "estimated" owed amount by 4/15.  You just have longer to actually file.

83 60 In the mood to share??

84 On a positive note: We get to burn Stupak in effigy and hang him by a noose in effigy and there is no way then can call us racist.

Stupid white fucking jackass.

85 Realistically, how fast can the ind. mandate be overturned?

86 Rasish chick,  I'm not giving to much to the RNC until after the primaries.  They are prone to using it against me.  I am giving some, but the lions share will be after the primaries.

87 Is there a list with all the states who have sane governors? 

Also, recommendations on best moving van lines would be helpful. 

Posted by: Y-not at March 21, 2010 05:56 PM (Kn9r7)

Virginia is looking real nice.  Or Texas.  Or South Carolina - not that I would call Sanford sane.

88 27 They said Prohibition was forever too. They even amended the Constitution to enact it.

America was half as big then (a lot smaller House), and a far different place politically and ethically/philosophically than it is now. And the Volstead Act took something away that most Americans liked or at least were ambivalent about (booze); it wasn't an entitlement program.

Posted by: Monty at March 21, 2010 05:46 PM (HQzxr)

Yeah? This is going to be TAKING AWAY our access to health care. And Obama won't be able to kill enough people old enough to remember when they had that, fast enough. Not even close.

People who think this is over and we're boned forever are either Bob or really, really don't get it. This is not Social Security. This is not Medicare. This is not something that was secured with bipartisan passage. This is not something that has the consent of the people. This is not something that will incrementally destroy us. This will fuck us up the ass FAST enough and HARD enough, in enough ways that no one will be able to escape or ignore, that the people won't stand for it. It's going to hurt a lot and it's going to cost us a lot. But in the end there will be ONE faction left standing and I guarantee you, my American brothers and sisters, I guarantee you with every cell of reason and understanding that exists within me, THERE ARE MANY MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF THEM.

A Republican was elected to the Senate in Massachusetts over this, ladies and gentlemen. All bets are off now. History is not a reliable guide to what is coming. But this will not end well for the statists and their enablers. I have never stopped believing that and I believe it today.

Scott Brown was the mother of all bellwethers. If he can happen, then there IS a political solution to this, and it is coming. It may not be obvious to us now, but it is coming. It may turn our historical understanding of what American politics is on its ear, but it IS coming. THAT is what is inevitable. And Barack H. Obama, and every man and woman who stood with him, will rue the day they EVER thought they could fuck with America.

89 52 Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2010 05:47 PM

Huh?  He's got two GOP challengers.  One of them is getting my money; I'm trying to decide which one (the doctor, not the lawyer, because that's how I roll.  No offense, Malor)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 05:52 PM (OkT2m)

I don't care about Stupak.  I've got the bigger picture in mind.

Stupak is toast regardless and if he isn't by some fluke, then let him be the lonliest man in the House.

Remember, we won Massachusetts before this crap sandwich got enacted.

90

That wouldn't work.  You're still obligated to pay your "estimated" owed amount by 4/15.  You just have longer to actually file.

Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 06:00 PM (YX6i/)

I'm obligated to purchase health insurance too, or the IRS will take my refund, or force me to pay, or they'll send the SWAT team.

Has any body else noticed that they come through doors one right after the other?  Almost like lemmings....

91 Posted by: Mallamutt at March 21, 2010 06:00 PM (V9SYy)

Steele was hand picked by the dems.  The scared republicans felt they couldn't deal with the new black president unless they had a black chair.  It is as dumb as worrying about the fact that Romney is a mormon.

92

Realistically, how fast can the ind. mandate be overturned?

Florida AG says they will file lawsuit agains the fed immediately.  However, the wheels of justice move very slowly.

93

1. Move to Idaho

...you can see Idaho from my Porch! 

94

72/curious --

It is hard to tell.  I mean, when I watch Fox News, there are ads every other commercial break that are statements against healthcare.  Why would the sponsors waste money there?  Everyone that watches that channel knows what is going on.  We need to reach the people who consider themselves independents who still watch MSM/CNN, etc.  It is sad to say but there is still a fairly large section of America that is just blind/ignorant/uninformed/uniterested....  We need to wake them up before it is really, really, really too late.

95 82 Posted by: The Dude Abides at March 21, 2010 05:58 PM (QtRBc)

that makes no sense.  If you file a tax extension, they already have your money so that gives them time to continue to use your money.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 05:59 PM (p302b)

Not for those of us who don't pay them til' April 15th.

96 40 Unborn to Stupak:  "What, we don't even get a kiss?"

Posted by: Pavel at March 21, 2010 05:50 PM (1jazK)

They've contracted all unborn baby kissing to John Edwards. He's a professional.

John Edwards-Fetus Whisperer.

97

Virginia is looking real nice.  Or Texas.  Or South Carolina - not that I would call Sanford sane.

Posted by: loppyd at March 21, 2010 06:02 PM (pGELo)

South Carolina doesnt get my vote until they rid themselves of that blathering idiot Lindsey Graham. Yea, yea, I know, we have Warner and Webb, but at least we know what side they play for.

98 John Edwards-Fetus Whisperer.

Thanks, I really needed a chuckle.

99

I feel like a sucker for believing that all of my time and effort to elect Scott Brown had put an end to this vile power grab.

100 Where does Maryland stand on these state lawsuits?

101 The Scott Brown election really did not mean anything to the healthcare bill. Pretty amazing.

102 I should say it made the dems do things a little differently, but passage was not effected unless some miracle happens tonight.

103

97  Hard call. VA has purdy Charlotesville. But ID is apparently only a hop, skip, and jump away from your ribs (and cupcakes!).

Must make pro/con list.

104

98...

They need to target the Cartoon Network as they are beating the crap out of CNN and MSNBC in the ratings game.

They should add MTV and BET as well as it will be the new graduates of Obamanized education who will be casting votes for the bastards in the future.

Insurance until I'm 26?! Sign me up!

105 54 Sybill
My daughter will be changing her major tomorrow, giving up her dream of being an Occupational Therapist.  All I can do is tell her I tried.  God knows I tried.  I don't want to leave her this shit.

She's not alone.  Many good docs and nurses will be heading for the exits.
I'm sorry.  The socialists really are horrid.

106 Lots more on this at the Tenth Amendment Center http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

107

South Carolina doesnt get my vote until they rid themselves of that blathering idiot Lindsey Graham. Yea, yea, I know, we have Warner and Webb, but at least we know what side they play for.

Posted by: Blazer at March 21, 2010 06:05 PM (t72+4)

Good point.   But Jim DeMint is no slouch.

108 Virginia is looking real nice.  Or Texas.  Or South Carolina

I'm an Ohioan.  I ain't going fucking anywhere.  This is my land and my home. 

A lot of people think Ohio is a bland, boring place.  It's not.  It was here that the final battles of the Indian wars of the early 19th century were fought and peace concluded.  The airplane was invented here.  It's a place of factories and engineering, and farms and woods and hills and all sorts of interesting shit.

And it's home.  And I don't give up my home lightly.  Fuck them.  Molon labe, bitches.

109 The Scott Brown election really did not mean anything to the healthcare bill. Pretty amazing.

Posted by: Dan at March 21, 2010 06:06 PM (1jzSs)

That's right.  NY 23 did, though.

110 I think that if I were inclined to move to any other state at this point, it would be Texas. And even Texas has its own nest of uber-liberal loons in Austin. But Minnesota ain't all bad. Yeah, we sent Klobuchar and Bozo the Senator to Washington; but we also sent Michele Bachmann. Tim Pawlenty is a good gov, too. I'm proud of that guy.

111

"Virginia is looking real nice.  Or Texas.  Or South Carolina - not that I would call Sanford sane."

Virginia, that's still purple?  SC, the home of Linseed Gwaham?  Move there in force to throw out the RINOs and Dims, or you'll be fucked, yet again.

112 #94  Has any body else noticed that they come through doors one right after the other?  Almost like lemmings....

yeppers, lemmings.

113 Ah, jeez, I see on the AP that the communist-in-chief is going to "address the nation" tonight as soon as the final vote is taken. 

114 The rabbi on wabc is asking some very lib sounding questions right now and asking people to call in and discuss it with him.

but when you start out "do you really want people not to have health coverage" it doesn't sound like it will be going well.

115
The Scott Brown election really did not mean anything to the healthcare bill. Pretty amazing.

It would have meant something had Ben Nelson said "no".
it did send a message, but that message is being ignored today.  The Democrats will get the message the next time we have a chance to vote.
Sans Acorn and democrap cheating.

116

Shockingly enough,  I won is going to give an address to the nation to gloat over 'HIS' healthcare bill that everybody is going to be so thrilled with.  We can now see what is in it now that its passed, door number 1 monty!

117 The Stupak Dozen.   Plank owners of the first Death Panel.   I would photoshop their faces onto the painting of the Last Supper.   Stupak with the dagger.   Instead of Christ in the center how about a picture of an aborted fetus.

118 Cartoon Network has Brock Samson.

So it isn't really a fair contest.

Brock Samson will pick his teeth with shards of Olbermann's skull and then listen to some Zep.

119 They have public worker strikes in Europe, maybe a private worker strike here, say April 15.

120 I feel like a sucker for believing that all of my time and effort to elect Scott Brown had put an end to this vile power grab.

Don't, even if it didn't stop the Dems it did send a message to the rest of the country.Plus we got to flip "Teddies seat" and I for one am thankful for the work you did.

121

3. Become a Christian Scientist

I'm not sure I like any of those. I *guess* I could do VA. It's home to rushbabe and Blazer so it's got that going for it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 21, 2010 05:59 PM (qRU1N)

Become Amish...they're exempt.

122
Enough with the Woe is Me shit. Time to strategize!

Goal: Remove Democrats From Power

first thing: read the bill, dissect it, and ram it down the throat of every single Democrat.

second thing: Stop Being Pussies. Take the gloves off and hit these motherfuckers back when they talk out of turn.

123

100...

Perhaps Edwards has found a whole new career in this deal.

He can simply explain to the fetuses that the taking of their lives is for the good of the greater nation as a whole. I'm sure they'll understand.

As an attorney, however, how will he ever get them to sign on the dotted line?

124 Dan ....it gave us the senate bill, otherwise they would have gone to conference committee, hard to say if that would have been much different....

125 I have an Executive Order that no one will be able to smack me in the face with a dog turd.

126 The new anti-Pope, Hussein DCLXVI.

127 #129  As an attorney, however, how will he ever get them to sign on the dotted line?

He'll just "channel" them and sign on the line for their behalf. 

128
idea #1: A Bill of Rights fro Taxpayers

idea #2: propose a tax on members of Congress for every single dollar they spend

129 Ah, jeez, I see on the AP that the communist-in-chief is going to "address the nation" tonight as soon as the final vote is taken. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 21, 2010 06:09 PM (9Wv2j)

Cutting in on March Madness to speak of more madness. 

That will really win hearts and minds of those who are trying to escape from this shit for a few hours.

130 The Democrats will get the message the next time we have a chance to vote.
Sans Acorn and democrap cheating.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at March 21, 2010 06:10 PM (0fzsA)

Hi there.

131 Ah, jeez, I see on the AP that the communist-in-chief is going to "address the nation" tonight as soon as the final vote is taken. 

Posted by: Peaches at March 21, 2010 06:09 PM (9Wv2j)

He'll be addressing a blank TV screen in this house.  I wouldn't watch him tie his shoes, let alone this.

132 Exempting some Americans b/c of thier religious faith has GOT to be unconstitutional. ACLU?  A little help here?

133 just got back from a sidejob for the day and see that Stupak caved, i'm not shocked, there's no such thing anymore as a moderate Dem w/ any common sense, the fact a party wants to pass an unfavorable bill as election time is around the corner tells me these people are either in  another world or don't care, this passes and it'll be a slaughter in November, my moderate pickups prediction will change to an absolute beatdown w/ the Senate very much in play and Obama's approvals really getting hit hard

134 Well, it's still America so the obvious answer is.... more laws and lawsuits! It just figgers. Who gets fresh work and a boost out of Hellcare? The lawyers.

135

Why, yes, I do want to pay for insurance for my illegally in the US next door neighbors.

Should I do anything else for them, like drive the rest of their family over the border, so they don't have to?

136 Posted by: Mallamutt at March 21, 2010 06:12 PM (V9SYy)

They passed a law a while back.  You are now allowed to remain on your parent's health insurance plan until you are 26.   Also, your parents are now responsible for your debts until your are 23.

137 Why not make their life at home back in their district MISERABLE...constant torment!

138 Heh. In my dreams 50 states secede. The seven left over will be really sad.

139 Sir, does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?

140 Ah, jeez, I see on the AP that the communist-in-chief is going to "address the nation" tonight as soon as the final vote is taken.

Fuck.  I just got this TV and the Mrs. will get all pissed if I Go Elvis on it.

141
I should say it made the dems do things a little differently, but passage was not effected unless some miracle happens tonight.

Posted by: Dan at March 21, 2010 06:07 PM (1jzSs)

I would love to be a fly on the wall in Stupak's office tomorrow after Barry signs his bill, when he goes back on his word mandating abortions not be funded with taxpayer money.

Wear that jackass label loud and proud Bart, let it fly baby, let it fly.

142
The rabbi on wabc is asking some very lib sounding questions right now and asking people to call in and discuss it with him.

but when you start out "do you really want people not to have health coverage" it doesn't sound like it will be going well.

hang on.  The new meme out of every democrat will be -
 "how dare you not want health care for everybody"  "I bet you kick puppies and kittens too."

143

yeppers, lemmings.

 

What did I tell you about 'yeppers'.

144 I want a vomit bucket right next to me, before Obama gets on tv to gloat tonight.

145 139 Exempting some Americans b/c of thier religious faith has GOT to be unconstitutional. ACLU?  A little help here?

Oh come now, when has this "Constitution" you refer to ever stopped a dem power grab?

146

second thing: Stop Being Pussies. Take the gloves off and hit these motherfuckers back when they talk out of turn.

Right on!  Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

 

147 Rasish chick,  I'm not giving to much to the RNC until after the primaries.

I'm not giving a dime to the RNC.  Individual candidates only.  Maybe the Iraq Veterans PAC, maybe just individuals therein.

148

What did I tell you about 'yeppers'.

Posted by: Jan Levinson at March 21, 2010 06:14 PM (RTENA)

I lol'ed.

149 They passed a law a while back.  You are now allowed to remain on your parent's health insurance plan until you are 26.   Also, your parents are now responsible for your debts until your are 23.

Why stop at 26?  Why not 30?  Or 40?

(20 year old Dem voter)  What, you mean I need to pay for shit?  Waaaahhahah

150


Oh yea, and lacey, stay away from C-Ville, its full of libtard idiots like Larry Sabato

151

http://bit.ly/bmvlb3

 

Unreal... he has over 1800 fans !  The guy started out with 25 fans this morning.

Awesome!   Bye Bye Stupak.

152

I have to research this a bit more but here is something I think will happen.

Starting tomorrow it will be illegal for insurance companies to deny coverage because of pre existing conditions. There is no mandate to have insurance until 2014.

Starting tomorrow why would it make sense for anyone who isn't sick to carry insurance? Why wouldn't you cancel your insurance and if you get sick buy it then? The way I understand the current bill nothing prevents that. If anyone knows why I am wrong let me know.

I see Kaos.

153 The horrible thought is all the Chris Matthews and Olbermans and so forth who are going to gush new ones because now their boyfriend is awesome again.

154

As crappy as this system they are about to pass is, it could actually get worse as pieces are pulled out leaving gaps in funding and 'logic'. All this risk is being taken simply because Democrats are desperate to get something, anything, on the books. Once it's there the issue will be how to 'fix' it, not get rid of it.

It's breathtaking in its recklessness. In other words, about what you would expect from Democrats.

so... remove the mandates, but leave in the pre-existing conditions.  sounds like the Marxist plan to collapse the system and start afresh with nationalization.

155

109 - jmflynny

True! 

And I believe the only reason Ofucktard won NC in 2008 was because of scheming (ala ACORN, etc.) I worked on a liberal college campus at the time and know that they were signing people up to vote/change registration state for at least a month or more beforehand... then we had early voting for two or three weeks.  Then we had the fact that the voting place for campus kids was moved from a place two or three blocks off campus right to the heart of the campus....  very suspect.... 

156 Hey, it's Sunday. How do you suppose Wall St. reacts to this? Black Monday, anyone?

157

136...

I laughed out loud. One of those really loud, rattling in my guts types of laughs.

 

Or, was that the sound of my cardiovascular system shutting down?

158

So it's going to his desk then? There is always the chance that the Bill will get challenged in the High Court. Guess what is next everyone? THE CARBON TAX! That is the next evil sandwich we are going to have to eat. The math is fairly simple now: Carbon Tax + ObamaCare(and no real economy)=HUGE DEBT=Default=No country. I sure hope Dixie has plans to bring back the Confederacy if the Government collaspes because of the Federal Debt. I am totally serious. We might not have a nation in 10 years. (Or we'll be in receivership to Europe or China)

Ron Paul should have been elected Prez. People should know better than to trust two lying political parties. :-)

159

It's really a shame bball isn't on late tonight.

I'd love to see America hate him even more as he interrupted a wicked good double overtime game!

160 Also, your parents are now responsible for your debts until your are 23.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:13 PM (p302b)

How is that even legal? Do you mean debts they co-signed for?

161

"The Stupak Dozen.   Plank owners of the first Death Panel.   I would photoshop their faces onto the painting of the Last Supper.   Stupak with the dagger.   Instead of Christ in the center how about a picture of an aborted fetus."

I like it!  Post it, and I'll distribute it, far and wide.  Starting with my local Catholic church.  I usually avoid "issues" at my church.  That has now ENDED.

Pick a side. Pick a fucking side.  Let God judge us.

162 Paul Ryan on Fox now.

He looks s though he is ready to sob.

163 Health Care...What's Next?233 days from now, Nov. 9th, 2010,

Armageddon

164 What's next? Another double Everclear Collins. That's for damn sure.

165 Bienvenue au Canada, mes amis!

But don't worry. It's not so bad. Just as long as you're careful what you say. In both official languages.

166 Starting tomorrow why would it make sense for anyone who isn't sick to carry insurance? Why wouldn't you cancel your insurance and if you get sick buy it then? The way I understand the current bill nothing prevents that. If anyone knows why I am wrong let me know.

That would work very well for me, being unemployed and paying quite a bit for high-deductible insurance every month. 

167 All that has to happen is for insurance companies not to take anymore new policyholders.  done and done.

168 "Shockingly enough,  I won is going to give an address to the nation to gloat over 'HIS' healthcare bill that everybody is going to be so thrilled with.  We can now see what is in it now that its passed, door number 1 monty!"

Which is what I said last night was already set up.  The "drama" and "delay" in getting votes was just to make the celebration grander and more obnoxious.

169 @91
Yeah, may be time to return to Texas. 

170 At least the United States, a Constitutional Republic, has an hour or two left to live, assuming the slimy traitors don't move voting time forward.

Putting any faith in the current crop of Republican officeholders is an exercise in failure. They'll talk big, but when it comes to standing up against their "good friends across the aisle," they'll bend over and offer their butts just like Stupak.

Limbaugh, Levin, Palin, Malkin and the rest of the no-action babblers will rant, talk about what we can do in November -- which won't be enough -- while offering up empty threats, and continue to rake in money as the loud but ineffectual "opposition."

I'm beginning to think the only answer this side of acts I can't condone is to vigorously drum up support in free states for that word Ed Morrissey and "Allahpundit" at Hot Air will ban you for using: secession.

It's a question going sheep-like into slavery under the treasonous regime of Papa Doc Obama or standing up for America.

171 I want a vomit bucket right next to me, before Obama gets on tv to gloat tonight.

Posted by: Who Knows at March 21, 2010 06:14 PM (7FgWm)

My house will be all military channel all the time for the next week.

172 oh well there went Ryan in my eyes "I wish an executive order had real teeth but it doesn't"

I don't think an EO should have any teeth Paul.  The laws are made in the legislative branch not the executive branch.

What is to stop the president from issuing an eo proclaiming himself president for life cause you Paul thought an EO should have teeth?

173 And don't be surprised if Obama's poll numbers go up now and support for the bill goes up and support for the Dems goes up.

Mark my words.

174 103

I feel like a sucker for believing that all of my time and effort to elect Scott Brown had put an end to this vile power grab.

Posted by: loppyd at March 21, 2010 06:06 PM (pGELo)

You're looking at it the wrong way. Scott Brown was just a single candidate, in a single election, in a single state, in January. He was all we had the opportunity for at that particular moment in time. He was the cornerstone of the unprecedented political uprising of which I spoke upthread. One powerful enough to throw off the shackles of even a plan as evil as ObamaCare.

What the January election of Scott Brown proved is that there is the will of the people, even in the bluest state of the land to fight back against statism. And in November there will be the opportunity to elect HUNDREDS of Scott Browns, EVERYWHERE.

The most horrible thing that could have happened today would have been mass public apathy toward or acceptance of what the Democrats have done. Then, we really would be finished. But it hasn't happened that way.

In January of 2009 Obama was God and the Dems figured that they would be able to do everything they wanted with the wind of public complacency at their back. They weren't counting on what happened instead, and they weren't counting on what's coming.

175 The rabbi on wabc is asking some very lib sounding questions right now and asking people to call in and discuss it with him. but when you start out "do you really want people not to have health coverage" it doesn't sound like it will be going well. This is how any movement for repeal will meet with adamantine demagoguery. You want to take us back into the dark past! You want to deny treatment to cyanotic babies and cancerous grandmothers! You vile, subhuman Nazi! Repeat ad nauseam.

176 All that has to happen is for insurance companies not to take anymore new policyholders.  done and done.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 21, 2010 06:18 PM (ympF

See what I mean? Kaos, complete and utter Kaos.

177 "Putting any faith in the current crop of Republican officeholders is an exercise in failure. They'll talk big, but when it comes to standing up against their "good friends across the aisle," they'll bend over and offer their butts just like Stupak."

AMEN

They are all ineffective turds and that includes Paul Ryan, who would rather listen to himself talk, than run against and defeat Russ Feingold.  The GOP are chronic losers.

178 Nice blog you've got here.  Shame if anything.....

Never mind.

179 Mark my words.

Posted by: Bob at March 21, 2010 06:20 PM (siar6)

Bob, no one's listening to you. Your stupidity and inability to recognize when you've fucked up beyond the point of public credulity and tolerance is a shining example of why you guys have come a bridge too far.

180 Posted by: Benjamin at March 21, 2010 06:17 PM (OaIao)

Wall Street will celebrate and the Dow will rocket upward. The stock market has been disconnected from reality for years.

But when the bubble does finally burst, as it must, 1929 will look like a picnic by comparison.

181

I love the fact that our side can castigate Dems for trotting out Kids to plead for their Welfare State while lobbing Fetus Bombs at them.

I find it less than congruous.

 

182

175...

What are the mandares in this bill as far as requiring any physician to accept patients of any particular insurance plan?

 

183
I'm sticking by my prediction: April is going to be a horrible month for the Obama presidency.

The natives are getting restless and they're sick of his promises and bullshit.

184

are they borrowing from the social security to pay for parts of obamacare? 

 if so, is this legal? 

185 No anti-health care reform legislation has emerged in Democrat-dominated states like Illinois and New York, according to the NCSL.

Fuck I hate this state.

186 Debate on the actual bill apparently to begin.

Perhaps an enterprising opposition party member will ask the members of the majority if they have a particular lamp post in mind for their finales.

187
Obama's disapproval rating will go above 50% before the end of April...mark me words.

188 Posted by: Gershom at March 21, 2010 06:17 PM (838vD)

 Nope. first past amnesty to get 15 million new Dem voters, then cap and trade with the new madate!

189


Wow, where did this eeyore Bob come from? Does this bill fund juice boxes and snack packs too?

190 130, we wanted a conference commitee though. then it would have gone back to the senate where we could filibuster. Them passing the senate bill makes that all moot.

191 Tomorrow morning, 3 to 1 says Moodys downgrades our bonds from AAA to "Dickin' the Chicken".

192 Health Care...What's Next? I'm starting a list of possible names for the new nation to be formed from the bloc of seceding states.  A couple that come to mind:

The American Constitutional Federation
The Federal Union of American States

Getting a name is the start.

193

191...

If the fetus bobms were allowed to be born, then the Dems would have 18 years to get their claws into them. I would argue that lobbing the deaths of millions of fetuses their way is far less distasteful than the actually taking of life!

194 Wow, where did this eeyore Bob come from? Does this bill fund juice boxes and snack packs too?

Posted by: Blazer at March 21, 2010 06:24 PM (t72+4)

The pro-shoe dem from Washington is waiting on a shine-box subsidy, I hear.

195 181 oh well there went Ryan in my eyes "I wish an executive order had real teeth but it doesn't"

I don't think an EO should have any teeth Paul.  The laws are made in the legislative branch not the executive branch.

What is to stop the president from issuing an eo proclaiming himself president for life cause you Paul thought an EO should have teeth?

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:19 PM (p302b)

That's not what Ryan was saying at all. If a dumbfuck crooked congressman like me could understand that interview, you must be pretty goddam Stupak.

196 @196 already is: 56% disapprove

197 Wow, where did this eeyore Bob come from? Does this bill fund juice boxes and snack packs too?

Posted by: Blazer at March 21, 2010 06:24 PM (t72+4)

Bobby must be on the dole already.  More free for me!

198

http://tinyurl.com/ygdrv7c

 

NY Times liveblogging claims dems have 218 yes votes

199 America's most conservative friendly counties. I'd like to note that I've lived in several of these and I can vouch for em: http://tinyurl.com/yabx6sj

200 Health Care...What's Next? I'm starting a list of possible names for the new nation to be formed from the bloc of seceding states.

Fuck you.  That's my name.

201 Wall Street will celebrate and the Dow will rocket upward. The stock market has been disconnected from reality for years. You know, with the perversity of existence that wouldn't surprise me. The real test will be the market performance over the long run, however. One thing is certain. If the market goes up the presstitutes won't be using the word "unexpected" when praising the new love affair between socialized medicine and Wall Street. If the market goes south, crickets.

202

198...

Blazer. You know that Snak Paks are reserved for dipping.

We don't need them getting their mitts into the action.

203 197 Posted by: Gershom at March 21, 2010 06:17 PM (838vD)

 Nope. first past amnesty to get 15 million new Dem voters, then cap and trade with the new madate!

Posted by: npabga at March 21, 2010 06:24 PM (nQYId)

how do you know this stuff isn't all in this one bill?  Just not in language you might be looking for but there none the less

204 Oops.
Something to look forward to like the UK:

Hospital removes the wrong testicle.“Details of the error surfaced this week after the hospital was forced to confess all thanks to freedom of information laws. Care at the hospital had previously been rated ‘good’ by the Care Quality Commission.”

205 I predict that Bobby will be conspicuously absent in November.

206
Tonight I will make a paper-mache doll of Nancy Pelosi and piss on it and then light it on fire.

207 and court challengers will take how long ?

208

Posted by: Bob at March 21, 2010 06:20 PM (siar6)

right, passing a bill w/ support at about 40% sure will help the dems/sarc

209

I told myself I wasn't going to drink tonight.

Like one of Obama's campaign promises cast aside, that didn't take long.

210 195 Debate on the actual bill apparently to begin.

rape^infinity about to commence.

211

I predict the earth will revolve once on its axis within the next 24 hrs.

Wait for it, it will happen

212

The fleeting thought that I should game the system till it doesn't have money for anyone left crossed my mind.

Just saying.

My family pays all its bills, my family works hard. That didn't work out so well.

Playing the system sounds feasible now.

213 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 21, 2010 06:25 PM (UQLAD)

They will but it will take longer than that... if they are not pressured into maintaining the rating regardless of reality.

214

How did the doll get burned!?

How did the doll get burned!?

215 Hospital removes the wrong testicle.“Details of the error surfaced this week after the hospital was forced to confess all thanks to freedom of information laws. Care at the hospital had previously been rated ‘good’ by the Care Quality Commission.”

While care was rated as "good", the report was in a frequency audible only to canines.

216 Wow, where did this eeyore Bob come from?

Bob emailed me earlier.  He came here recently after the local glory hole closed and he became unemployed.

217 Fuck you. That's my name.

Posted by: Glengarry GlenAmerica at March 21, 2010 06:28 PM (UQLAD)

So I should put you down for "The Federal Union"?

218 I predict I get snot slinging drunk today.

219 Well, I hope the Europeans, Japanese, and South Koreans realize they better start saving up their nickels and dimes to start paying for their own defense again: let's face facts, the real point of Obamacare is to destroy America as a superpower by sucking all our resources down the bottomless hole of welfare spending. One part of almost likes the idea that we won't have to pay to defend the leftists of Europe anymore. Shame about Taiwan and Israel, though...

220 Drag it out R's, make this pos speak when nobody is watching

221

The War Between the Undead States

I don't disagree with anything you said and I would not change a thing.

I underestimated the statists.  I'll never make that mistake again.  This has only strengthened my resolve.

222 200 Tomorrow morning, 3 to 1 says Moodys downgrades our bonds from AAA to "Dickin' the Chicken".

Does anybody rational believe our Moody's rating still?

223 You're all making fun of Bob for predicting that Pelosi would have the votes. But Pelosi does have the votes. So the joke's on you, isn't it?

224 What cowards.  They waited till the resolution got the required number of votes and then a bunch of dems came forward and voted no so they could placate their constituents.  Essentially they were being given cover so they can be re eleected.  After all the American people are just plain stupid and the rest don't care or aren't paying attention.

how many people demonstrated in DC.  Got an email that says my congress person doesn't see anyone against this bill, even the protests are small pockets and he has received thousands of emails from those wanting the bill.

225

If the fetus bobms were allowed to be born, then the Dems would have 18 years to get their claws into them. I would argue that lobbing the deaths of millions of fetuses their way is far less distasteful than the actually taking of life!

Great for you. If you'd like some of my 'sacred sperm', let me know...cookin' up a batch right now!

Abortion was never the issue. Merely a tool to de-rail this monstrosity. 

The issue is your rights and your liberties and those of all other Americans, regardless of where they stand on ANY issue.

_{'Fetus Bombs'.  Indeed.} 

226

http://bit.ly/bmvlb3

 

Geesh.. the guy has 2250 fans now.

Fun to read the comments.  All over the country people are sending him money.  Dude doesnt know what just hit him.  haha

227 Bob at March 21, 2010 06:22 PM (siar6).... Ace....Banhammer^

228 Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 21, 2010 06:30 PM (otlXg)

Just to lighten things up a bit.  I just bought a bottle of Pepsi (not for me, as I have refused to use Pepsi products, as much as I am able, since they supported the arab boycott in the 70's) and they are advertising Kratos.  Maybe you should sue?

229 I'm gonna go frag space-democrats on the xbox. The real ones stick to the bottoms of my boots.

God news is:

When Civil War II starts, they have all the smelly hippy pussies on their side.

230 Well well well...
218 votes according to the NY Times
Seems I said that very number last night.
Told ya so.

231 235 200 Tomorrow morning, 3 to 1 says Moodys downgrades our bonds from AAA to "Dickin' the Chicken". Does anybody rational believe our Moody's rating still? Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 21, 2010 06:31 PM (otlXg) We can only HOPE the dollar becomes utterly worthless on the world stage. Then no one will lend us a dime anymore. WOULDN'T THAT BE THE BEST POSSIBLE THING FOR OUR COUNTRY????

232 @236 We're making fun of a worthless obvious prediction. If she had the votes, the count would be 217 yea. Everyone fucking knew it. Dipshit

233 #231 
One part of almost likes the idea that we won't have to pay to defend the leftists of Europe anymore. Shame about Taiwan and Israel, though...

Israel can take care of itself.  Taiwan..not so much, although they have enough people wanting to join back to the "Motherland".

234 The fleeting thought that I should game the system till it doesn't have money for anyone left crossed my mind.

I was thinking about that, but now I find the very real possibility that I will never get another job after my current (temp, no insurance) one ends scares the shit out of me.

235 I can haz free healthcare!

236 Israel can take care of itself.

And Barry was never going to help Israel anyway.  He's telling Netanyahu that personally on Tuesday.

237 Well, at least we won't have those filthy Canucks swarming south anymore to hog our MRI machines. They will be sequestered for exclusive use of Congressional and bureaucratic elites. But I hear the Croatians have some old X-ray machines for sale, so we can all line up to get a few roentgens if we get a tumor. Gotta get a job in gubmint. The only growth industry left, and if I ever need a hip replacement, it's the only way to go.

238

I predict I will be punched in the face by at least fifty cocks today at the Axelrod HQ Glory Hole.

239 Now that this bill is about to become law, let's try to face some facts: Fact #1. Most Americans may be unhappy about the bill, but they are not going to run riot in the streets. "Red Dawn" fantasies are for losers. Fact #2. November is not far off. Hopefully, the GOP will take back the House and make strong gains in the Senate. This is the way to effect change - not by threatening violence, and not by starting a third party. Fact #3. Most industrialized countries have some version of government-run health care. They are still pretty nice places to live. (Who wouldn't want to live in Australia?) America will also still be a pretty nice place to live, at least until our rapidly mounting debt catches up with us - which will take a few years. Fact #4. Gabe owes us realists an apology for calling us "pussies." Come on, Gabe, cowboy up and say you're sorry. We'll respect you all the more for it.

240 "I predict that Bobby will be conspicuously absent in November."

What's November going to do?

Sure won't wipe out Obamacare.

Take over the House, sure a good possibility.

A bunch of Senate seats, too.

But this monstrosity still will be standing.

241 #243  I just bought a bottle of Pepsi (not for me, as I have refused to use Pepsi products, as much as I am able, since they supported the arab boycott in the 70's) and they are advertising Kratos.  Maybe you should sue?

I didn't know that...I knew 7-11 was.

lol, I wish I could sue for the use of Kratos' image.

242

HeatherRadish, we are all worried about our jobs.

What state are you in?

243 What cowards.  They waited till the resolution got the required number of votes and then a bunch of dems came forward and voted no so they could placate their constituents.  Essentially they were being given cover so they can be re eleected.  After all the American people are just plain stupid and the rest don't care or aren't paying attention.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:31 PM (p302b)

Every single democrat, no matter how they voted on this, is a despicable, lying, scumbag traitor.  Anyone with integrity would have left the dem party over this, seeing the coup they are pulling on this nation.  They are all culpable and need to be held responsible.

244 Fact #4. Gabe owes us realists an apology for calling us "pussies." Come on, Gabe, cowboy up and say you're sorry. We'll respect you all the more for it. Posted by: sauropod at March 21, 2010 06:37 PM (hAAbr) I never understood why "pussy" is used as an insult. It's one of the best damned things in the universe known to man!

245 osted by: sauropod at March 21, 2010 06:37 PM (hAAbr)

Who are you, and why am I beginning to get really annoyed with you?

246 Sure won't wipe out Obamacare.

It sure won't fund it.

247

So many sperm jokes, so little time.....

248

Posted by: sauropod at March 21, 2010 06:37 PM (hAAbr)

allahpundit is that you?

kinda kidding w/you there bud, I agree w/ some things you say

249

And Barry was never going to help Israel anyway.  He's telling Netanyahu that personally on Tuesday.

I hope Netanyahu takes this chance to castigate the little bitch for the Palestinian Pawn that he is.

 

250 Krauthammer... We will be a different country tonight.

251 So the joke's on you, isn't it?

Posted by: sauropod at March 21, 2010 06:31 PM (hAAbr)

In 1776, which would have been?  Those running to Canada, or those that stayed, and supported the Brits?

252 @254 1) yep 2) ok 3) There's the rub... until insolvency. For those of you out there not self employed, better hope Catepillar was wrong, or we're gonna have a hellacious unemployment rate 4) you're still a pussy. It's an attitude thing.

253 Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 21, 2010 06:38 PM (A46hP)

In many ways I feel as though the republicans are just as bad, maybe worse.  People put their faith in the republicans cause they knew the dems were doing what they said they would do, they thought the republicans would do something, anything and the republicans are simply pretending to care and going right along.

I'm not the only one saying and thinking this.  For a lot of people this is a WTF moment.

254 What do Palestinians and Pro-Life Democrats Have in Common????

255 I can't turn on the tv. I might end up destroying it. It has been snowing all day here in Mississippi, on the second day of spring. WTF, time for wine. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot to add: I despise Democrats, those fuckers.

256 Fact #3. Most industrialized countries have some version of government-run health care. They are still pretty nice places to live. (Who wouldn't want to live in Australia?) 

Posted by: sauropod at March 21, 2010 06:37 PM (hAAbr)

They have been able to have their systems because they draft off of us (and actually leech off of us in many cases).  But the US can't draft off of no one.  As we go towards stagnation, the rest of the world loses a lot of what they have taken for granted in the post-WWII era.

The US is the engine and the US is the defender.  Without us, watch the world descend into chaos.

This is like idiot Americans who think that we pay extra for drugs in the US just for fun.  We pay extra because the profit in our system is the reason most drugs (and other medical advances) get done.  Then everyone else gets the technology on the cheap.  That will end.

257 @273 Well said sir. I forgot to add that

258 sauropod - cold blooded, lizards, tiny brains, can't think beyond their next meal.

259 Nooooooo, not Waxulon!!

260 some bond bimbo on fox is saying this all is happening because of the 39% anthem blue cross/blue shield rate hike.  Isn't that a government company?
And didn't the prez have them all to the WH.  I guess wondering which one he could coax into raising the rates to give him his entry point.

261 Henry motherfucking Waxman.  Chief Wiggam himself, is the public face of the Socialist caucus in this debate.

262 Who's holding Babs's purse while Steny bloviates?

263 Whoops, I mean Nan's purse.  *drinks*

264

How many are willing to be called to Federal Jury Duty and serve this Marxist Government without objection?

My response during pre-trial will be the government is a criminal enterprise and I will never find the defendant guilty of the charges, excluding murder and rape.

That will be sufficient for disqualification for service, and if it became pervasive throughout America, the court system would grind to a halt. 

 

 

265 HeatherRadish, we are all worried about our jobs.

I've got a temp gig in NY until July, then I go home to WI, where my boyfriend makes $11/hr and doesn't seem to realize that no one will hire a big middle-aged woman now that they're looking at all the new fines and taxes enacted today.

266 Guest on fox, "this, this will bankrupt the country"....so then why the hell are the republicans standing by and allowing the bill to go through?

267 Steny Hoyer:

Between playing Big Ben and your fucking alarm clock, I fuck up the history of the Civil Rights movement.

Because this is about race.  We all know it.

For the past hundred years we've wanted to fuck you, and today we'll finally get it done.

268

What's next?

There will be a landslide of Obama bills passed until November. 

Because the idiots that sold us out won't be able to collect on what they were promised unless they pass - every - single - one - of - them.  If they vote 'no', even once, their sweetheart deal goes bye-bye.

Blackmail is a useful tool when used correctly.

They gave us all shackles just for a few shekels...

269

Geesh.. the guy has 2250 fans now.

Fun to read the comments.  All over the country people are sending him money.  Dude doesnt know what just hit him.  haha

Posted by: Timbo at March 21, 2010 06:33 PM (7GgDy)

Dude is up over 2700, as of now.  It's going to be ugly for Stupak.

270 If it passes, it passes.  The question is what to do?

I for one am sick of people telling us how very, very, impossibly, craptastically impossible it will be to repeal it.

Repeal.

Like it's never happened?  Fzck that noize.

If the Tea Party folks don't push for repeal, to hell with them.
And same for anyone else that accepts this steaming pile of marxism, for that matter. And side note to Mark Levin: get rid of the word "soft."  It's plain, vanilla tyranny. Nothing soft about it, except for apparently the response by some of the inside the beltway types.

You can't "fix" this propagation of legislative malfeasance. It has to go, just like Saddam.

271 For those of you out there not self employed, better hope Catepillar was wrong, or we're gonna have a hellacious unemployment rate

That was always part of the appeal of passing this piece of shit.  People who can't find work get dependent and scared--very controllable.

272
I for one am sick of people telling us how very, very, impossibly, craptastically impossible it will be to repeal it.

Repeal what?  Just exactly what the fuck are they going to do to me while I point and laugh?

It's called revocation of the consent of the governed.

273 .so then why the hell are the republicans standing by and allowing the bill to go through?

What are they supposed to do?  There's not enough of them to vote it down.

274 Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 06:47 PM (YX6i/)

I think Stupak will retire and not even run.   They are saying they neutered him and his buddies and that they didn't need his vote.   He looks like the fool that he is.  He will probably retire now and have a nice lobbying job and collect his magnificent pension.

275 In many ways I feel as though the republicans are just as bad, maybe worse. 

Sorry, but I can't go with this in any way.  No one is as bad as the democrats.  It's not even a competition.

People put their faith in the republicans cause they knew the dems were doing what they said they would do, they thought the republicans would do something,
anything and the republicans are simply pretending to care and going right along.

I'm not the only one saying and thinking this.  For a lot of people this is a WTF moment.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:41 PM (p302b)

I don't think anyone had any real faith in the GOP.  I never really did.  But, in addition to the cowardice that most in the GOP have demonstrated, they were blindsided by all this because they didn't understand what was pushing this whole fiasco - The Precedent and his desire to do nothing but break our nation.  The Precedent never cared about health scare or anything else (which is clear as he's too stupid to understand any of it and gave Congress full liberty with all legislation).  All The Precedent cared about was pushing our system to failure with the attempt.  Many still don't realize this.  The guy is out to exact revenge (for the third world), and little else.

The GOP, along with most people, still don't get this.  The Indonesian Imbecile is out to destroy us, and, not having any American sensibilties, he is perfectly happy to break every rule, law, tradition and taboo in the process.  I've been trying to warn people about this for a long time.

276 Most industrialized countries have some version of government-run health care.

But do they fine you if you're living out of a shopping cart and have no money to pay the fine or buy the mandated insurance?

I think we already know what the answer to that question is.

277 "290 .so then why the hell are the republicans standing by and allowing the bill to go through?

What are they supposed to do?  There's not enough of them to vote it down.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 06:48 PM (OkT2m)"

I honestly feel that they dropped the ball on this one big time.  Either they are inept or they are for the bill and we have been hoodwinked.

278

"My response during pre-trial will be the government is a criminal enterprise and I will never find the defendant guilty of the charges, excluding murder and rape. "

NO.  Serve on every Fed jury.  Jam 'em up.  They can always replace you with the "good" scum sucking, minority, Dim juror.  Make your voice heard!

279 I honestly feel that they dropped the ball on this one big time.

What were they supposed to do?

280

I honestly feel that they dropped the ball on this one big time.  Either they are inept or they are for the bill and we have been hoodwinked.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:53 PM (p302b)

WHAT.THE.FUCK.DO.YOU.WANT.THEM.TO.DO?!

281 Am I too late to be 216th?

282 Juror's may interpret law, decide if it just or not, just tell the judge that and that you will exercise that right. Make sure the judge explains it
Thank God I live in Idaho, we will stand up to the feds just like Wyoming. At least we have before.

283

I honestly feel that they dropped the ball on this one big time.  Either they are inept or they are for the bill and we have been hoodwinked.

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 06:53 PM (p302b)

Damn it.  After being the eeyore-in-chief for many days here, in the last few days, I thought you'd finally got on board.  By all means, blame those in the minority, w/ little chance to stop this.

284 What were they supposed to do?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 06:54 PM (OkT2m)

They were supposed to argue the clear un-Constitutionality of this from the beginning and all the way through.  Instead, they ceded that and concentrated on CBO scores.  They never talked about the other countries' health systems drafting off of ours, as the profit in our health care is what drives the world's health care advancements.  They could have refused to attend the voodoo zombification summit for a bill that was dead, instead of trying to be all statesman-like with the dem savages.  Mitch McConnell could have not allowed the Christmas Eve vote (anyone remember what he traded that for? ... didn't think so).

They could have called the dems the America-hating traitors that they are.  They could have pointed out that we have an America-hating foreigner (by sensibility) in the White House who is destroying our system because he has no connections to American culture.  Of course, if the GOP had the guts to do that, they would have had the guts to challenge his Constitutional eligibility to begin with.

The GOP could have done lots of stuff.

285

that makes no sense. If you file a tax extension, they already have your money so that gives them time to continue to use your money.

I think the idea was that you reduce your withholding to zero the previous year.

286 Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 21, 2010 06:54 PM (OkT2m)

Don't get me wrong, I place the full blame for the death of America on the traitorous dems and their Indoneisan Precedent, but the GOP are not fighters.

287 @300 Yup. ID sure has. I hope and pray the Governor and all pass the bill saying citizens don't have to pay for this.

ID juries have a fine track record in regards to the Feds overstepping their reach.

288 Doh. A lil reading and I would have seen the bill has been signed. Way to go ID.

289 261 "Who are you, and why am I beginning to get really annoyed with you?" I am Sauropod (let the lizard brain jokes commence), and you are annoyed with me because, like Bob, I correctly anticipated today's vote. Since my powers of prognostication have proved formidable so far, why not listen to me when I say that there will be no revolution, no secession, no civil war, no blood running in the streets, but ... there *will* be a GOP tidal wave in November? America's future will be decided at the ballot box. Put your Rambo-esque fantasies aside and focus on working within the system, and all will be well. By the way, how am i saying anything different from Ace? He also predicted passage and has advised against insurrectionist talk.

290 I'm printing up my "VOTE NO MORE DEMOCRATS" bumper stickers now.

291 Looking at this page of senators' data, a quick eyeball by me shows only about seven or eight Republican senators younger than 55.  A lot are far older.  And out of a mere 21, two have been liberal all along (Collins and Snowe).

I don't think the oldest group, despite their familiarity with totalitarianism, could imagine that style of governance gaining a hold here.  So that's probably why they were so soft on Obama to begin with.  They probably felt that since he was unprecedented, and "cool," no matter what the actual data showed, there was no way he'd bring totalitarianism to our shores.

They. Were. Wrong.

That's why this monstrosity blind-sided them.

292

@307  Fuck you, lizard nuts.  Ever hear of fifth columnists?  When they're not blowing shit up, they do everything in their power to rip the spirit and hope out of the masses?

That's you asshole.  Man up.  Acccept what you are!

293 I know that the Republicans cannot repeal this abomination but they can defund it. If they take back the House and the Senate they can just not put the money in the yearly budget to fund these programs. If we do not do  that then the new immigration bill that big ears is proposing will be next. The Repubs have to make this a spending issue and connect it with the immigration bill that is coming next. Curious George will want to give ALL of the illegal aliens amnesty and health care because he promised the Hispanic caucus that he would do this.

294

don't all be so glum.

 

Lets go over the facts.

EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING IN THE US OWE'S 40,000$ plus on the federal debt, and generally around 7 on the state/county/town side (varies widely)....

The socialists started this too late. THERE ISNT ANY MONEY.

We're adding to the debt at a rate of about 5,000$ per human being per year.

The Social Security "Trust" Fund just started redeeming its notes for cash last week or so. That wasn't supposed to happen until 2016.

You have maybe five years before this whole thing ends in a fiery explosion of math.

It wont help tomorrow, but its coming and now its coming FAST.

295  These scenarios posited above ARE plausible and no amount of denial will make them go away.  Sauropod may want to try reading the posts before deciding they are all paulistas.   

296 The US is the engine and the US is the defender. Without us, watch the world descend into chaos. Nonsense! The Enlightened Autocrats of Beijing are the future, and the hope of the world!!

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