its a shame this wasn't in the evening. this would have been a great live blogging event.

Obama, "Only I am capable of reading CBO analysis. When you see that it will raise costs, what it really says is costs will decrease for deaf, dumb and blind quadrapalegic mothers of 6 by 2%. "

The funemployed morons to the rescue.

now why is Mitch McConnell sitting in front of John Boehner's name card? Just wondering.

Whoa, apparently the Sasha and Malia card has been played.

he dropped them like a ton.

THis isn't Kabuki. This is a voodoo zombification ritual to resuscitate the most dangerous, hated, worst legislation to ever come through Congress - and which refuses ot die, no matter how many death blows it's been hit with. ANd, now, the GOP are particiapting in yet another attempt to revive it.

I cannot express how unbelievably stupid it was for the GOP to participate in this. They should have left the Dems there, all by themselves. Now, THAT would have been pretty funny. But no ... the GOP just had to help revive this zombie legislation ...

he dropped them like a ton.

Posted by: Ben at February 25, 2010 11:06 AM (wuv1c)

Did their pediatrician recently remove a body part to make extra bucks?

Obama is pissed that this meeting is taking time away from his re-election preperations.

After a brief period of consultation following the White House health-reform summit, congressional Democrats plan to begin making the case next week for a massive, Democrats-only health care plan, party strategists told POLITICO.

A Democratic official said the six-hour summit was expected to “give a face to gridlock, in the form of House and Senate Republicans.”

Is it just me or does Steny Hoyer look like a really really bad alcoholic.

Posted by: wrg at February 25, 2010 11:14 AM (7t+Ws)

Or, as the New York Slimes wrote about it days ago (and everyone knew):

“Instead, Democrats say, they hope the event will create a climate that helps revive their legislation in Congress…”

GOP participation does nothing but help revive a bill that must finally be allowed to die.

This is not Kabuki, its Bukaki.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2010 11:11 AM (xxgag)

That was only because his parents met 4 years after he was born.

Obama told the story about how when his mother was dying she had to deal with insurance companies.

Didn't she have a Haavard Law School graduate for a son? Why was she dealing with the insurance companies. When did she die? Even it was before he went to Haavard then he still was fully capable (heh) of dealing with the insurance companies. Everytime my mother has an issue with her insurance, broker, dentist, doctors, pharmacy, the irs, her car dealer, the social security admin, the county etc etc etc, I DEAL with it. When you're dealing with doctors that try to cheat the elderly, the type written words "Medicare Fraud" do wonders.

Obama is clearly the most moronic cock sucker in this country.

That's right. The American people want this legislation killed and buried, already. But the GOP is helping to raise it from the dead ... for the 12th time.

The Dems are digging their political graves.

Posted by: nickless at February 25, 2010 11:21 AM (MMC8r)

The dems live in political graves. This is home field advantage for them. They killed themselves with their Porkulus, Crap&Trade, Health Scare, ... votes already.

At Thursday's summit, meanwhile, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared, "Inaction and incrementalism are simply unacceptable."

Obama himself hinted at a Democrats-only strategy. When asked by reporters as he walked to Blair House if he had a Plan B, he responded: "I've always got plans."

God help us.

Posted by: nickless at February 25, 2010 11:21 AM (MMC8r)

Honestly, I don't think they want this to pass.  I really don't.  I think they figure they can get the "obstructionist" meme out there so that they can use it for other things.  I really don't think even Obama thinks this thing can be turned around.

 But mostly we are not allowed to bring up the birth certificate, or any other certificate for that matter, lest we be ridiculed by amazingly intelligent bloggers wearing plaid shirts.

I'm starting to think that he wants everyone to get on board with the fact that he was vomited up by Cronus hence the pissed off attitude when anyone mentions the birth certificate. Or maybe he is just the 12th for the twelvers.

What a fuck-nut...To think I'm feeling guilty that I can't make it over to my mom's to shovel until Caturday.

3.) On points & presentation, the GOP is solidly ahead now for those who are watching, but make no mistake: Obama is coming off well too.  It hit me the moment everyone sat down that this is the setting he lives for, the one he thrives in: the seminar or panel discussion.  Tonally, there's just no question that he has a masterful touch, and on a purely operative level I tip my cap to his skillz.

Just get in line to give him a blow-job and get it over with.

Obama makes me ill. Even his picture.

Besides why does he drop all his fucking "g"s. He is puttin' on a show for the bitter clin'ers.

Besides why does he drop all his fucking "g"s. He is puttin' on a show for the bitter clin'ers.

Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2010 11:29 AM (ZVAac)

When Palin does it, this is prima facie evidence that she is a moron.  When Obama does it, well, he's just tryin' to connect with all of us lesser people.

#70  Anybody who watches LOST knows that this is almost word-for-word a line said several times by Benjamin Linus -- one of the main villains of the series.

Sounds right.  And he lies so easily like Ben.

/About LOST, can't they just nuke the damn island again and get it over with?

It's time to use Obama's logic against the insurance companies against him:

Obama's grandmother died during the campaign and she was on Medicare, ergo Medicare kills people. In fact, most people who die in the U.S. are under Medicare. That means Medicare is worse than private insurance, cause more people die under it. Best I can tell Medicare is a government killing machine.

Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2010 11:29 AM (ZVAac)

Slow down, there, dagny. McShame is working on a bill to have the FDA regulate blowjobs.

I wonder if McShame is going to throw his new idea out there, sort of like he did in the debate when he proposed paying off everyone's mortgage? McShame loves doing that sort of shit.

dear lord.

thenoseonyourface dot com has found photographic evidence that Tilikum was at a tea party rally

 It hit me the moment everyone sat down that this is the setting he lives for, the one he thrives in: the seminar or panel discussion.  Tonally, there's just no question that he has a masterful touch, and on a purely operative level I tip my cap to his skillz.

Facilitator on Chief

It hit me the moment everyone sat down that this is the setting he lives for, the one he thrives in: the seminar or panel discussion.  Tonally, there's just no question that he has a masterful touch, and on a purely operative level I tip my cap to his skillz.

Facilitator in Chief

Slow down, there, dagny. McShame is working on a bill to have the FDA regulate blowjobs.

Well, just go all the way and have the public option where only the govt can administer blow jobs. Barbara Mikulski is already 4 feet tall with a flat head and big ears. She can be the czar.

Uh.. ummm..uh....uh... uh...ummmmm....uh...

Please get a teleprompter for Obama..

Posted by: Mallamutt at February 25, 2010 11:34 AM (V9SYy)

I wish the GOP had said that they have reason to hold discussions over a dead bill that shreds our COnstitution and that America hates. The GOP should have just answered every single bit of dem health care babble with:

GO GET THE HALF TRILLION IN MEDICARE WASTE AND FRAUD that formed the bulk of the delusional "funding" of the dems' health scare. A half trillion dollars in free money - as the Dems have been saying.

There is nothing else for the GOP to speak with the dems about and the dems have no business touching my personal, private health insurance.

GO GET THE HALF TRILLION IN MEDICARE WASTE AND FRAUD should be repeated by the GOP over and over and over until the dems shut up.

But, unfortunately, the GOP are retards.

Please get a teleprompter for Obama..

That's why this thing is so long. So he can get out a sentence. But tonally.....What skilz!

Er ... that should have read: "NO reason to hold ..."

But the GOP are too nice to do that ...

Ryan just kicked the NH pussies ass back to fag land.

I love the way Obama says just exactly the opposite of what is true so that he has the ability to quote himself as evidence that things are not what they seem?

This is not political theater

I am not a socialist

I didn't know anything about ACORN

You can keep your insurance.

etc

"I'm the President".

Not for long.

Obama got rear ended and ACME insurance wouldn't pay for his damages.

So we should have the GOVERNMENT cover peoples losses.

I would never have the GOP talk about the dems' bill, because it's un-Constitutional. But they need to tell the dems to go handle the government's resposibilty to reform Medicare and the dems have already claimed that there is an easy half trillion they can trim, in just waste and fraud. The GOP needs to hammer on the dems to just do this, now. If the GOP kept answering ALL health care talk with that one line, the Dems would just shut up and drop it all, finally, because we all know that that half-trillion doesn't exist (not that any Congress would be able to find it, at least).

I love when Bambi gropes for just the right word. 

"The plan should be...uh...strong enough to cover your kid when he gets sick."

That's why he's the eloquentist man ever.

That's right. The American people want this legislation killed and buried, already. But the GOP is helping to raise it from the dead ... for the 12th time.

So you'd prefer the Dems get a free 90 minute infomercial extolling the virtues of socialist healthcare completely unanswered?

The dog and pony show summit would've happened with or without Republican participation.  Had they sat it out, the Dems (with the help of the MSM) would've been able to play the "obstructionist" card to greater effect.

Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2010 11:41 AM (ZVAac)

Medved says that "great speaker" garbage a lot, at which point I scream briefly at the radio and put on a music CD.

Obama, the smartest human on the face of the earth, didn't know after he got out of college that he purchased liability only insurance.

We're in the best of hands.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 25, 2010 11:46 AM (mR7mk)

Math was too hard for him.

As a mathematician, I get very frustrated that people for whom math was clearly too difficult are able to be labeled "smart" mostly because they speak with a pompous air.

When you're saying nothing, it's easy to sound like you know what you're talking about.

progressiveoverpeace,

You've hit the nail on the head. When Obama and company bring up "obscene" insurance profits, tell them that Medicare waste, fraud and abuse is 5 TIMES the insurance company profits. Make it clear that the problem is government, not private enterprise.

Yes. The dems do that every day, anyway.

The dog and pony show summit would've happened with or without Republican participation. Had they sat it out, the Dems (with the help of the MSM) would've been able to play the "obstructionist" card to greater effect.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 25, 2010 11:48 AM (rf03a)

I would not have particiapted. Leaving the dems all by themselves, trying to raise the dead, would have been quite the spectacle.

This was a no-win situation for the GOP. The bill was already killed. You don't hold summits over dead legislation. You just don't.

Posted by: lincolntf at February 25, 2010 11:48 AM (cGaVN)

Is it me or does he look like a vampire?

And not the Twilight kind of vampire, the Bram Stoker kind of vampire.  Pale skin, creepy eyes and I swear he has fangs.

Posted in wrong thread:

I turned it on for about 60 seconds while eating lunch. The jugeared jackass was speaking. I turned it off. I can no longer even stand to hear his voice and listening to his rhetoric is a collosal waste of time because every time he opens his yammering mouth a lie spews forth.

The only thing that concerns me about this PR stunt is whether or not the RINOs on the Republican side are going to cave or not based on some useless beard.  And if they do cave, how far they are going to cave.

No I have to take that back. As this stands right now, ANY cave at all will result in the ultimate nationilization of all healthcare within 10 years. That what the commie-Ds want. It has been thir goal since FDR was president.

Posted by: gus at February 25, 2010 11:47 AM (MaqIC)

Summed it up nicely there, gus. That's what I'm hearing, too.

By the way, I post this only because a Jeff B post should never be allowed to go without being ridiculed even if its mostly accurate.

Posted by: polynikes at February 25, 2010 11:24 AM (m2CN7)

I'm touched, in a way.  Good to see you around, btw.  Seems like it's been awhile, no?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 25, 2010 11:46 AM (mR7mk)

All liberals hate numbers.  They're not at all compassionate, they don't care about your good intentions, they always try to prevent you from implementing the next program.

QUESTION:

If Obama can cut hundreds of millions out of wasteful Medicare/aid to help pay for the reform bill, then..... um.... why hasn't he cut any of the waste in the last 12 months?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 25, 2010 11:46 AM (mR7mk)

All liberals hate numbers.  They're not at all compassionate, they don't care about your good intentions, they always try to prevent you from implementing the next program.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 25, 2010 11:53 AM (1fanL)

In other words, numbers don't have feelings.

Forgive me, but wasn't Barack notoriously absent during his mother's long illness?

She died a typical white person's death.

Giving people REAL INSURANCE can be free!!  COMPLETELY FREE!!!

You should have the good health insurance WE H AVE, and it willl cost you less.

It's sold by UNICORN SHIT SKITTLE INSURANCE COMPANY INC.

SHANGRI LA NEW YORK.

Yay. Schumer. An excuse to leave the room for a while and stretch my legs. He's another "unlistenable".

I said that the other morning and "A Casual Observer" got offended and insulted me. He is apparently deeply proud of his own NYC accent and doesn't see a problem with it.

I find Schumer's voice worse than Bwarney's. There is no comedy in it.

In other words, numbers don't have feelings.

Posted by: Mandy P. at February 25, 2010 11:56 AM (MK6Kx)

Yes.  You're almost as eloquent as Obama.  Well, wait.  Numbers have Republican feelings.

I think he just went nuts before our eyes. talking off the wall now.

(2) the possibility he will make an inaccurate statement

Doesn't matter. The media certainly won't cover it.

This is not a government take over of health insurance.

Meaning.  I'm the President and we are taking over health care.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 25, 2010 12:01 PM (mR7mk)

Crap sandwiches.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 25, 2010 11:59 AM (GZitp)

That's called a high-deductible/no co-pay plan; like the one I currently have that Obama's trying to outlaw with these dumb ass bills.

ABC news before Rush: Quotes Lamar Alexander then says, Obama came right back and pledged to get to the bottom of insurance rates going up.

This whole thing is created for sound bites for state media

Posted by: Mjim at February 25, 2010 11:56 AM (V8B//)

That's his MO. Tonsil stealers, hacking off feet for the "$30,000 ... $40,000 ... or even $50,000". The federal government needs to open up a health insurance company "to provide competition to the private sector". "10,000 people were killed by a tornado". ...

We all know that the Indonesian Imbecile lies like a banshee, and the Lame Streams clean it all up for him (or just refuse to report it). This was the lay of the field going into this.

ugh.. these people are ridiculous.

If someone doesnt yell YOU LIE soon.. this will be the most boring tv I have ever watched.

That's called a high-deductible/no co-pay plan; like the one I currently have that Obama's trying to outlaw with these dumb ass bills.

Posted by: Mandy P. at February 25, 2010 12:02 PM (MK6Kx)

I had one too.  Got a 20% discount on my annual exams for paying cash and my doctor use to give me samples of Flonase which is the only Rx I take.

Worked for me for many years.

Yes Clyburn is telling us INSURED folks cannot afford doctor visits so they go the emergency room!!!!

And the Government will help them.  AND IT WILL BE FREE!!!  No problem.

It's the typical URBAN (READ BLACK) LIBTARD respsonse.  We need more more more more more more more more more OF YOUR MONEY.

People who cannot NAVIGATE the SYSTEM.   HARD WORKING PEOPEL who are really really really stupid. 

LETS GIVE THEM FREE SKITTLES.

I was convinced this was a trap, but holy shit Obama does not have a clue.

All he hears is what Jarrett and Axelrod tell him.  

Doesn't matter. Remember the debate where Sarah cooked Biden or even the other ones where McCain won. They will run out of there screaming how they totally crapped all over the republican tea baggers

Oh Lord...

If we could just prevent ObamaCare from happening, and just go with simple commonsense small baby steps, similar to the Republican ideas everybody would be way better off.

It's difficult to make people understand what the Democratic Agenda is with this. This really is the possible Begining of the End!

I'm worried!

I can't wait till Obama is out of Power, so I can have my life back! 

Oklahoma is also the only state where Obama lost every county.

The only sane state we have.

Posted by: arhooley at February 25, 2010 12:01 PM (tnlys)

But they'd still give him the medal, he would still act as if he deserved it, and the audience would still pretend that he's not an incompetent fool with a pea-brain.

People are at the MERCY of their EMPLOYERS HEALTH CARE PLANS!!!

Yes the GOVERNMENT can GIVE YOU FREE HEALTH CARE.

Your employer has to pay for it.

AND weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep cry sniffle.  A MAN MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD HIS TRANSPLANT DRUGS IN 3 YEARS.

Government will give FREE TRANSPLANTS TO EVERYONE!!!! AND DRUGS, PLENTY O'DRUGS for everyone.  FREEEEEEE.

Most people drop collision coverage after their car's value drops to a certain level

Heh. I remember having medical coverage on my auto insurance when I didn't have health insurance through work. I kept telling people, "If I have a heart attack, stroke, or any other serious medical issue get my ass in the car and run it into a tree!"

Just curious but if Insurance and Big Pharma are so bad then why have Barry the wonder retard and his minions received more money in bribes, I mean contribs, from them than any candidate or party ever has?

Frankly I say fuck Barry and his pathetic strawmen, the democrat party and also the cowardly gutless GOP. Can anyone honestly say that outside of a very few individuals that there is anyone in government they can honestly say is looking out for we the people?

This dog and pony show is pathetic and you people know damn well that no matter what the GOP says or does, if they even have a pair, that the trusty lapdog media will spin it to make the dims and Barry the wonder retard look better. Frankly this is an infomercial on why incumbents should be voted out in Nov.

Posted by: robtr at February 25, 2010 12:07 PM (fwSHf)

I'm glad I'm not the only eevil, hard-hearted asshole on this thread.

Yes FUCKWAD FROM KENYA, we are angry at WASHINGTON.

No FUCKWAD FROM KENYA it isn't a talking point. 
Ryan asked you earlier you fucking 94 iq's dumbfuck.

DOES WASHINGTON KNOW BETTER THAN US OR OUR STATES?

Posted by: roflcopter at February 25, 2010 11:59 AM (1F2Nf)

He's been incredibly bad at every personal appearance thingy yet they keep trotting him out expecting great results.  I think that's the definition of insanity.

I'm glad I'm not the only eevil, hard-hearted asshole on this thread.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 25, 2010 12:08 PM (1fanL)

I am a proud graduate of the Dick Cheney school of comapsion.

Rush saying that it is illustrating what a bunch of mean nasty unintelligent people these democrats are. The republicans are presenting plans and the dems are telling stories about letters and family members. The point is that they can say that the republicans wouldn't compromise so we have to put it through ourselves.

The dems are not looking good and aren't even looking nice. Petulant. He actually said "I don't count my time because I'm the president" Holy shit.

If David Rodham Gergin says that its even then the repubicans are kicking butt.

"Showdown Sham Day"

Without a teleprompter, he can't come up with a differnt angle. Tells all the same stories that he told at all his health care town halls. Lying so big and does it so easily he is the most inexperienced unqualified guy in the room.

Harry Reid is lookin really mad.

When the republicans read from the dem health care bill, he cuts them off and tells him its not productive.

Rich

Posted by: arhooley at February 25, 2010 12:11 PM (tnlys)

Time for my ride along the ocean then.

hell yeah your on the clock. its our dime.

Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2010 12:11 PM (ZVAac)

oops, sorry!   Dagny already said that!

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 25, 2010 12:07 PM (mR7mk)"

Not to argue, but that's not always true.  For example, my neighbor lady became partially disabled a few years ago, lost her job and with that her insurance,  has tried parttime work to pay the rent, etc.  She truly does everything she can to survive.  She's 55, white and lives in a rural area.  There is no help for her.  None.  She has no money to move, let alone physical abilities to do so.  Unless, somehow (lawyers now go wink, wink)  she "becomes" more disabled, gets pregnant, moves to a government housing of some sort, she is screwed.  She can't buy health insurance now, she can't work fulltime  at a job that offers benefits, and she's years away from Medicare. 

oops, sorry!   Dagny already said that!

LOL dittohead

Posted by: lowandslow at February 25, 2010 12:10 PM (GZitp)

Exactly! I just had a baby a month ago. Got the bill and the hospital's worked out a pretty nice payment arrangement with us for my portion. Frankly, they don't really care how long it takes us to pay it off so long as they get something from us each month. Hospital billing agent flat-out said that to me.

LOL dittohead

Megadittos to you too!  I posted my comment before reading through all the comments.  I guess I'm just following Ace's doubleposting example--heh!

Not to argue, but that's not always true.  For example, my neighbor lady became partially disabled a few years ago, lost her job and with that her insurance,  has tried parttime work to pay the rent, etc.  She truly does everything she can to survive.  She's 55, white and lives in a rural area.  There is no help for her.  None.  She has no money to move, let alone physical abilities to do so.  Unless, somehow (lawyers now go wink, wink)  she "becomes" more disabled, gets pregnant, moves to a government housing of some sort, she is screwed.  She can't buy health insurance now, she can't work fulltime  at a job that offers benefits, and she's years away from Medicare. 

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at February 25, 2010 12:14 PM (RwaHM)

There's more of the other kind, my small and eevil heart tells me.  But for people like your neighbor: Church, charity, family?  Collection by the neighbors? 

Not to argue, but that's not always true.  For example, my neighbor lady became partially disabled a few years ago, lost her job and with that her insurance,  has tried parttime work to pay the rent, etc.  She truly does everything she can to survive.  She's 55, white and lives in a rural area.  There is no help for her.  None.  She has no money to move, let alone physical abilities to do so.  Unless, somehow (lawyers now go wink, wink)  she "becomes" more disabled, gets pregnant, moves to a government housing of some sort, she is screwed.  She can't buy health insurance now, she can't work fulltime  at a job that offers benefits, and she's years away from Medicare. 

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at February 25, 2010 12:14 PM (RwaHM)

I think we've found her problem.

Already on Drudge:

'I don't count my time because I'm the President' -- Obama on why Dems have controlled more speaking time...

This is going to be the Take-away from this moronic meeting

/About LOST, can't they just nuke the damn island again and get it over with?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 25, 2010 11:30 AM (9hSKh)

Dude, they did.

Season 5 finale.

It didn't stick.

This is going to be the Take-away from this moronic meeting

Posted by: dagny at February 25, 2010 12:22 PM (ZVAac)

Good.

'I don't count my time because I'm the President' -- Obama on why Dems have controlled more speaking time... 

Damn.  He's a bigger asshole than Andrew Sullivan's.

#294

They need to nuke the island in all timelines.

One quick way to clear this whole thing up. Obama passes his plan. Fine. But it applies to EVERYONE, including the prez and all government employees, including Congress. Hell, exspecially Congress!

No more free rides off the taxpayers. No more exclusions for this that and the other.

Then let's see what happens.

Oh, I'd say it wouldn't pass. Anyone care to bet against?

Posted by: joncelli at February 25, 2010 12:25 PM (RD7QR)

We can add it to the other 24,312 jaw-droppingly idiotic things that The Precedent has said ... and gotten away with.

#292 'I don't count my time because I'm the President' -- Obama on why Dems have controlled more speaking time...

I should have figured that the "I won" argument would pop it's ugly head during this "summit".  What a dick.

This guy Miller is an absolute embarrassment. "no fault of my son that he has acne! My hips were replaced 15 years ago, Wahhhh, wahhhh, wahhhh".

Grow up, you simpering puddle of a man. Life ain't fair. Doesn't make me responsible for little Johnny's zit medicine.

EXACTLY

Posted by: HH at February 25, 2010 12:26 PM (GkYyh)

Uh ... the dems are on a suicide run. I wouldn't even take the chance of them passing it, and neither should you.

Mutually Assured Destruction doesn't work with suicidal nihilists.

Posted by: HH at February 25, 2010 12:26 PM (GkYyh)

Saw a proposed Constitutional amendment recently, to the effect of: all laws applying to the people will apply equally to the Congress, and all laws applying to the Congress will apply equally to the people.

Sounded good.

Prick just accused McCain of Campaigning.

pfffffft

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at February 25, 2010 12:30 PM (RwaHM)

Seems to me that the problem is that there are no sticks.  We don't turn people away no matter how richly they deserve it.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 25, 2010 12:31 PM (GZitp)

You're right. Because it would mean hospitals and doctors would actually be getting paid. Between the medicare/medicaid ripoff that doesn't even pay enough to cover the cost of supplies and services and all the galling with insurance companies, prices go up because docs don't get paid and when they do it takes for-freaking-ever.

All liberals hate numbers.  They're not at all compassionate, they don't care about your good intentions, they always try to prevent you from implementing the next program.

No they don't hate ALL numbers.  They love BS lies like 45,000,000 Americans do not have health insurance and can not get it.  They spout numbers every day. Too bad the numbers they like is just like all other crap that vomits forth from their pie-holes; it is all lies.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 25, 2010 12:33 PM (1fanL)

That's a huge part of the problem. Part of it is that the federal courts have forced these "unfunded mandates" for care on everyone. If the Congress and the Executive don't screw us all, the federal judiciary will do it.

This is a feral government that has reverted to wild as it broke away from the domesticating constraints of the Constitution. It will not be domesticated again.

And the GOP hasn't seen fit to even bother mentioning that pesky old Constitution for this voodoo zombification ritual for the health scare carcass.

Posted by: FUBAR at February 25, 2010 12:30 PM (1fanL)

Yeah, I saw something like that recently also. I really like that idea.

Look folks, this so-called summit was called for one purpose only.  It is designed to give the MSM another excuse to shows non-stop hours of communist propaganda from the jug-eared jackass and call it news.  At thye same time it gives them a chance to poke out some more lies about theevil Republicans and their buddies in the insurance buisness who make that outrageous profit (3.5%).

The ONLY real news that will come out of this is how bad the RINOs cave.  We will see that after the "summit" so there is no point in watching it unless you are a conservative blogger who is tracking what is actually said vs what the MSM says was said.  

 so there is no point in watching it unless you are a conservative blogger who is tracking what is actually said vs what the MSM says was said.  

Sorry Vic, you are wrong. The reason we watch is that we DON"T want anyone telling us what we just saw is wrong or that we mis-interpeted what was going on.

That's what makes us different.

And morons, of course...

Posted by: HH at February 25, 2010 12:45 PM (GkYyh)

Meh. I can tell you what The Precedent is going to say about pretty much any topic, and it always consists of nothing but lies and distortions.

The Precedent isn't a tough nut to figure out.

Oh my god.He's explaining what insurance is/does!What a condescending fucking prick.

This guy has basically filibustered this whole meeting.He needs to shut the fuck up and let somebody else speak.

@328

This is a feral government that has reverted to wild as it broke away from the domesticating constraints of the Constitution. It will not be domesticated again.

I find your ideas interesting and would like to subscribe to your newletter.

How about a mandate for health savings accounts instead of insurance? 

Health savings accounts that don't rip your ass off that is - one I had you had to spend all the money or lose it.

I'm an effing genius.

The Precedent isn't a tough nut to figure out.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at February 25, 2010 12:49 PM (A46hP)

A tough coconut, perhaps, you racist jag-off?

Wow.  Of course Gloria Allred worshipped Bambi's skillz, but she also complimented the Republicans, in a half-assed backhanded way.

Unbiased.

Heh, I am losing so let's get the fuck out of here

Posted by: Concerned Conservative Christian Republican concerned about health care at February 25, 2010 11:41 AM (1fanL)

I think that you should emulate Jesus and make a one-way trip to Golgotha

Break! Think I'm gonna watch 'Lost' that I DVR'd the other night. However, I find this discussion on HealthCare pretty interesting, and it's great to see push-back on the Prez. And on live TV.

Boring to some maybe, but I love it...

Now THIS is what global warming debate should be all about. Public hearings, and peoples defending their theories.

Damn, this is good.