1
Fish!

2 I have COD in my surprise upset pool.  Coons ads are pretty heavy in the Phila. market so I figure it's got to be close.

3
It's about ten paragraphs too long. The writer said the same shit over and over.

4

Why not help her pickup the last 4 she needs, such that The Wave can put her over the top?

Sent her $15 yesterday, along with $35 to Miller, $25 to Buck...

5 Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.)  And oh, Moonbeam is only 4 points ahead of Meg according to Rasmussen - there's hope on the left coast.

6

I know women like their gossip, and I know conservative women read it

what's this now??

7

Delaware: Go away, witch!

O'Donnell: I not a witch, I'm your senator!

^{we can always hope, right?}

8

conservative women -- you have to stop reading Gawker. I know women like their gossip, and I know conservative women read it. But come on. At some point a site goes too far into the gutter to be rewarded.

I don't know even what it is. So?

9 Geesh.. its disgusting the way women in politics are treated.

I have sent her money.. I hope she is the upset of the election.

10
Christine is polling better than Linda McMahon?

11 I don't read Gawker, I read Cat Fancy and tampon boxes.

12

Can't she cast a spell or something... on the SEIU voting machine engineers?

 

13 Lacey, is he talking about the likes of us? Seriously?

14

I don't know even what it is. So?

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:02 PM (RKqDk)

I dont know what gawker is either.

15
What do Roland Burris, Kendrick Meek, and David Paterson all have in common?

a) they're all black
b) they're all Democrats
c) they've all been told to 'fuck off' by the Democrat party to make room for a white man.
d) all of the above

16

Those noreasters really like their lying-ass socialist already proven corrupt lefties, don't they?

It's kind of like a repository, or something.

17 What's the Gawker? BTW, I don't watch reality TV either.

18 Republican Woman are ALL WHORES

We are the DNC, and we endorse this message.

19
If he ends up losing by say .........2........

well.....  everybody who dissed her and witheld support right after the primary has some splainin to do....... RNC, Mr Rove, Mr Krauthammer...... I'm looking at you.

20 errrr.... edit above...... she loses by 2.

21 I know she's no Scott Brown but where was he this far out?  Anyone know?

22 14 Gawker, Gizmodo, Kotaku, Jezebel, io9, and Deadspin (probably others I missed) are one big web-media conglomerate, all the same crew in different flavors.  I follow a couple for other reasons, but otherwise they're leftard as they come.

23 I just donated 50, hope it helps.

24 Bummer about that vote count story in the top headlines column.  That may seriously mess with some dipping, although I suspect Alaska won't be known for weeks and CA and WA may take more than a few days.

Also Gawker sucks.

25 I never knew what Gawker was until someone here posted a link to it for some story.

26 I'm a conservative woman who never heard of this website until yesterday.  I first saw it here.

27 I think you are way underestimating the percentage of catty women in the electorate.

But all women will rush to the defense of a woman who is being trash-talked by an Beta-male uber-nerd...and this Dominick guy with his boy-scout boyfriend really fits the bill.

28
You guys will love this.

You know those talky greeting cards? A candidate for state rep in MA mailed out those type of cards. When you open the card, you hear a recording of her hack opponent saying nasty things about young girls.

Is that bootiful or what?

29 17 What's the Gawker? BTW, I don't watch reality TV either.

Posted by: EZB at October 29, 2010 01:06 PM (fa9yq)

Who knows?

The only tv I watch are the sunday talking heads, dvr-ed beck, dvr-ed star trek and radom shit like "the building of the colessum". Oh, and Madmen because, even though he's a libtard, John Hamm does excellent hot sex scenes.

30 ace, you are the massagonist not gawker. How can you say all women like gossip, that is sexist. They have their own minds and their OWN BODIES, hands off prolifers like o'Donnell, she doesnt know the first amendment the the right to PRIVACY .........ha ha ..... wise up already

31 sock off

32 That guy as a serious case of homo-hair.

33

She's hotter than Gillibrand, so do a guy a solid, please.

34 I know women like their gossip, and I know conservative women read it. But come on. At some point a site goes too far into the gutter to be rewarded.

Why is this shit so compelling?   When at the hair salon, I read what I term "celebrity porn", primarily because that is all that is available, and of course, to keep up with the so called "culture".  (Who is Lindsay Lohan?)  These magazines peddle pure fabricated lies, or lies with truth thrown in.  I suppose the celebs deserve every bit of dirt they get flung at them, but man, some of it is pure evil.  I feel dirty all over after a dose or two of "Star". 

It is telling that the subscription labels are torn off the front cover.  Who would dare want to be identified with this crap?

35

... and to the banana republic for which it stands...

http://tinyurl.com/27bms6p

HotAir

36 O' Donnell is going to win. I just saw Coons on TV, she turned him into a newt.

37 Has anyone ever seen Palin Steele and Dustin Dominiak in the same BSoA uniform together?  Just askin...

38 Roadking at 21 - The weekend before the election some of the newspapers in Mass. were stating that Scott Brown was down by 15% points in their polls. It is these results that make it so difficult to read these races. Even if you don't buy the presses polls a lot of people include them in their averages, which throws off even people like the RCP.

39 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"?

40 With all the crap and garbage thrown at O'Donnel over the last few months, if she loses by less than double digits, I consider it a moral victory. Small consolation I know, but...

41 @36 I really wish O'Donnell had gone "Full Python" with the witch thing. She'd have most of the adult population of Delaware identifying Coons with Sir Bedevere and the DNC with the village idiots.

42 Has anyone ever seen Palin Steele and Dustin Dominiak in the same BSoA uniform together?  Just askin...

Posted by: The Hammer at October 29, 2010 01:14 PM (32ubA)

That Palin Steele is a sock.  A very good sock, but still a sock.

43 Thank you, palin steele, for that impressive display of authentic leftard gibberish!  I'm so glad we can have such examples for the purposes of the education of our youth!  Keep bringin' the stupid, you know we love the target practice!

44 It's a shame. I checked out Jalopnik (a Gawker site) every so often. Not anymore.

45

Time saying Pelosi might retire after the bloodbath.

Sweet. 

46 "I have no idea if this horrific caddish story -- will wind up helping her." This garbage pisses me off. We've had to sit by and listen to Sarah Palin, Angle, Whitman, and O'Donnell being bashed in ways that have absolutely nothing to do with political issues. Meanwhile, that pig Edwards knocked up a woman while his wife was home dealing with cancer, and the liberal media kept it hidden until it could no longer affect the outcome of the primaries. Women need to ask themselves who is their enemy, conservatives, or liberals who can't seem to deal with a female candidate in a decent manner? The idea that liberals and democrats represent the best interests of women, blacks, and Hispanics is a myth. Oh, and screw the liberal media.

47

I find intoxciated lady bugs with 70's style earth mama muffs endearing.

just saying.

  

48 In that ladybug costume I would have "not-banged her banged her" too, but would have probably been discrete about it.

49 39...One night stand?  Never heard of it. 

50 Dustin Dominiac knows nothing about sacred honor.

51

39 Maybe "sex less one nightstand". That's when your date steals your furniture?

From what I have read (on conservative websites not pop-culture media btw) the little lib liar said he got her clothes off and she refused to have sex-sex. So what he meant was that she was a c-tease.

52 30 ace, you are the massagonist not gawker. How can you say all women like gossip, that is sexist. They have their own minds and their OWN BODIES, hands off prolifers like o'Donnell, she doesnt know the first amendment the the right to PRIVACY .........ha ha ..... wise up already

Posted by: palin steele at October 29, 2010 01:10 PM (bN5ZU)

You'd benefit from taking 30 extra seconds to proofread the shit you post.... aw fuck it it's painful stools why am I bothering.

53 I don't why everyone thinks that COD is going to lose. Obama and crew have flown to Delaware again today to campaign for the bearded Marxist. We all know that there has to be some validity to the notion that COD is scaring the shit out of the Dems or they would not be spending so much time and money to back Coons.

54

Getting drunk and hitting on random people they've known for 5 minutes?

She really is me.

55

Roadking at 21 - The weekend before the election some of the newspapers in Mass. were stating that Scott Brown was down by 15% points in their polls. It is these results that make it so difficult to read these races. Even if you don't buy the presses polls a lot of people include them in their averages, which throws off even people like the RCP.

Thanks Have Blue.  Like I said, I know this race in different but wow I would love to see her pull this out.

56 Oh, and I thought I heard a poll saying O'Donnell was at -6 the other day. Maybe it was someone else. She had momentum and now this disgusting smear may put her over the top.

57 hammer, dont make fun of scouts, I was EAGLE scout with an award for project on magnets, dont be jelous. what are you scared coons will beat o'dumbass, of course he will, lololol . . . . .......10 points ahead, it will be LANDSLIDE, just like other Dem races . . . just you wait and see ...... ROFLMAO.......

58 Stop it. Coons has been a newt all along.

59 I wish I could boycott Gawker, but I don't read it or any of those gossip mags or sites.  The worst I do is occasionally check in on that "Fugly" site 'cause I am amused by how badly the rich and "elite" dress. 

60 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"?

Pancakes at ace's place?

61 I know boycotts are hard, and all, but really, conservative women -- you have to stop reading Gawker. I know women like their gossip, and I know conservative women read it.

I'd be offended by this stereotyping, but that's a typical man for you.

62 What is the procedure for replacing US reps from California? Do they call a special election immediately or leave it till the next scheduled election? And what would be the next such election in Peelousies district?

63 Coons has cancelled debates recently. HMMMMM

64 Still don't think she'll win, but a 54/45 defeat will be a moral victory for the right.

65 54

Getting drunk and hitting on random people they've known for 5 minutes?

She really is me.

How YOU doin'?

66 >>ace, you are the massagonist Release the second chakra!

67

9 Geesh.. its disgusting the way women in politics are treated.

Only conservative women are treated like this. They have my respect, and my support when I can, and my vote when they run.

68 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"?

It's when you start foaming at the mouth first

69 Yeah, when there are so many other high profile tight races, why are the Dems wasting time on one that should be in their bag?
Unless this is aimed at the post election Dems, saying "See Obama did help get dems elected. Look how he thrashed that witch ODonnell."

Of course I've got her on my upset list too.

70

This little piggy went to market.

This little Piggy stayed home

This little Piggy had roast beef

And then there was me.

71 I'm too tired to read the whole post, but I heard Rush talking about it yesterday.  I must admit, fellow morons/ettes, I have actually spent the night with people I didn't have sex with.  They're called "friends."

72 THOUGHTS ON GALLUP:

Gallup has traditionally been a shill for the left.  In 2008, they came in 17th out of 20 pollsters.  For this reason, I am have been quite surprised to see Gallup showing the Dems down by 15 points among likely voters in a normal (40%) turnout model.

They could be trying to win back some credibility - OR - they could be setting us to show Dems SURGING back 10+ points in the last week to make it a dead heat.  My guess is the latter.  We have seen Obama add 5 points to his approval on Gallup in just a few days.

So Dems surge back into contention in the final week because of the Daily Show Meetup?

Are we being setup for "the surge"?

73
you know what the Democrats need?

A new nifty "D" symbol.

74 Boycotts. That sure does bwing back memowies.

75 unclefacts, who are you the grammer police, so I type faster than you, dont nitpick. just because you cant beat my arguments, thats no reason for insults. I am a LAWYER, how could you debate me anyway I am TRAINED to outsmart you, lolol ...... wise up now

76 Boy Scouts...fap...fap...fap...

77 What's the margin of lying (ie., oversmapling dems) in these delware polls?

78

Thanks Have Blue.  Like I said, I know this race in different but wow I would love to see her pull this out.

Posted by: Roadking at October 29, 2010 01:19 PM (pFNL3)

I'm with you Roadking. 

79

I have actually spent the night with people I didn't have sex with.  They're called "friends."

Friends without benefits.

Got it.

80 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"?

The dweeb couldn't get it up, she wasn't his type.

81 She needs to win by enough points to offset the Democrat cheating.  I am really praying that all the candidates we're watching do that.  I can't believe the fraud that's being reported this year.

82 I had never heard of Gawker until recently and I have never read the site.

So there.

83 Dude ... if freakin' Christine O'Donnell turned up on my doorstep three years ago and offered up her ladybug furburger we'd still be going at it now.  Just sayin'.

84 She has momentum, a sexist hit-piece which has backfired and she leads moderates.

Something's brewing here.  Very Scott Brown-esque. 

85 "The dweeb couldn't get it up, she wasn't his type."

So... you're confessing that she did, indeed, turn him into a newt! Burn Her!

86 BTW, I know boycotts are hard, and all, but really, conservative women -- you have to stop reading Gawker.

Rush has referred to Gawker more than once on his show. Usually with a content warning of some kind.

87 5 Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.) 

Posted by: roguewave at October 29, 2010 01:01 PM (va5/g)

So COD wouldn't get any of the blame if she loses?  Not for running a bad campaign or for being a professional candidate with few, if any, career accomplishments?  Not for spending the early part of her career making a fool of herself to amuse Bill Maher?

The Gawker thing is horrible, but COD was never in the same category as Palin, McMahon, Whitman, Ellmers, McClung, Bachman, etc.  Female conservatives who are role models for the rest of us.

88 39 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"? Posted by: JackStraw

That would be where the guy can't get it up and claims it never happened before.

89 I'm too tired to read the whole post, but I heard Rush talking about it yesterday.  I must admit, fellow morons/ettes, I have actually spent the night with people I didn't have sex with.  They're called "friends."

I've spent the night with people I didn't have sex with, I call them "husbands". 

90 I'd be offended by this stereotyping, but that's a typical man for you.

Posted by: Midwestern Nobody at October 29, 2010 01:20 PM (gbCNS)

/Golf Clap...  Well Played!

91 What can brown do for you?

92

Listen up folks: THAT AIN"T PALIN STEELE!!!

He was banned  weeks ago.

93 Palin Steele, What exactly is the definition of this word: massagonist? You know, for a super smart, analytical lawyer, you seem to have some literacy problems.

94 LOL That too, mpur.  Once you reach a certain age, sleep is so much more important.

95 Maybe there are more Witch Americans than we thought.

96 10 points is not to big to overcome. The wave is cresting, not receding. Repubs are coming home to O'Donnell. Independents are as well, according to the poll. So the question comes down to: will Repubs outvote Dems by 10 percent? I think yes. Trust me, people are pumped.

97 Oh, and Palin S., we likey Ace, even when he says we like gossip, because deep, down, in the depths of our black hearts, we do like gossip. It's human nature or something.

98 57 hammer, dont make fun of scouts, I was EAGLE scout with an award for project on magnets, dont be jelous. what are you scared coons will beat o'dumbass, of course he will, lololol . . . . .......10 points ahead, it will be LANDSLIDE, just like other Dem races . . . just you wait and see ...... ROFLMAO.......

Posted by: palin steele at October 29, 2010 01:19 PM (bN5ZU)

Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and call you a liar right now and get it over with. Your garden variety retardation is typical, but you reached a little too far with the Eagle scout.

99 Rush mentioned, a little bit ago, some poll in DE showing O'Donnell up 49-46. Sounded like some small university poll or something. The polls are all over the place for this race. I'd say she has a legitimate shot. Well, so long as people stop saying stuff like this: "Ten's still too much for the wave to overcome..." And continue saying stuff like this: "Be the wave!" For every other race, no matter what the polls say, you're saying "Get out there! Help out! Make it happen! Be the wave!" The only time you don't is this race. Well, knock it off. There are other races which aren't close, but you're still urging people to work their asses off to "be the wave" and help win the race. There's no reason not to do that for this race as well.

100 ace, you are the massagonist not gawker. How can you say all women like gossip, that is sexist. They have their own minds and their OWN BODIES, hands off prolifers like o'Donnell, she doesnt know the first amendment the the right to PRIVACY .........ha ha ..... wise up already

Posted by: palin steele at October 29, 2010 01:10 PM (bN5ZU)

This is the same hash as Northeast Elizabeth & 'Greg' on the last few threads.   Don't fall for this crap, 'rons & 'rettes.

 

101 What exactly is the definition of this word: massagonist?

That's the term they use for guys like Al Gore.

102 95 Maybe there are more Witch Americans than we thought.

Posted by: ingenus at October 29, 2010 01:29 PM (+sBB4)

And yes, we need to raise Taxes on those Witch Americans...

103 Anyway, Ace can always pull a Joy Behar and claim that his saying that women like gossip is actually a term of endearment.

104 I don't know, there is just too many dems in DE, Indies would have to break 60 - 40 or better.  DE is the only state with a positive Odumbass approval.

105 The dweeb couldn't get it up, she wasn't his type.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 29, 2010 01:24 PM (ruu60)

Thats how I see it, the douchnozzle had whiskey dick and (if the story is true) couldn't seal the deal with a chick who was in the Jersey Shore vernacular DTF.

 

106 @100 We're being punked by a fellow Moron.

107 The best part of it all is that THIS weaksauce is the only October Surprise the dirty Dems could come up with.

108 Witch Americans have been discriminated against for too long in this country.  It's time to make history by electing our first Witch Senator.

109 92:  Unless Ace has some freaky-deaky super secret quantummagical person-banning protocol, that 'ban' is going to be simple to circumvent.  Besides, they've also been tossing out 'Greg' posts elsewhere, whoever they are.

So yeah, it may be 'our' palin steele, nonetheless.

110 I like my women like I like my coffee - hot, wet and no pubic hair.

111 Oh noes, I lost my backpack mahn.

112
Fucking Chimp Community College poll shows 58% of morons like to argue with sockpuppets.

113 Google minx.cc (bN5ZU)....you'll see who it is and all the socks he's used.

114 So yeah, it may be 'our' palin steele, nonetheless.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at October 29, 2010 01:35 PM (GBXon)

No, it's not.    'our' plain steel is too stupid to write posts as half-ass coherant as Northeast Elizabeth.    Same people.   'Greg', also.

115
Nobody likes a tattle tale, Cindy Brady.

Don't out the sockpuppets!

116 Coons once dressed up for Halloween as Ghengis Newtrich.

_{Paid for by Witch PAC, not authorized by any candidate or committee.}

117 104, true but if they do not come out to vote because they think their marxist is sure to win, then surprises can happen!

118 "Witch Americans have been discriminated against for too long in this country. It's time to make history by electing our first Witch Senator." Witch one you talking about? O'Donnell ... or Pelosi? Oh, wait, Pelosi's not a senator. Nor a rep either, for long.

119 "What is a sexless one night stand"? My guess would be a date where a male type person had performance issues.

120 Paris Paramus Average Joe.

121 steph, I am my OWN PERSON, do not confuse me with anyone else. no, you cannot trick the readers here, they are wise to you. it is probably your hash, you play computer games, make it look real but it will not work, lol. stick to the topic, okayyyy?????

122 Christine O'Donnell will vote to repeal obamacare.

_{Paid for by Hawt Ladybug PAC, not authorized by any candidate or committee.}

123 What exactly is the definition of this word: massagonist?

I'm thinking it's anyone who uses a Massengill Disposable Douche (for whatever purpose).

124 I'll say this: O'Donnell will probably lose to Coons...but it would be so sweet if she won. Why? 1) The Dems were looking to this race as a silver lining in a very dark cloud. An O'Donnell win would just shove their faces in the mud that much more. 2) O'Donnell was really very shabbily treated by many in the GOP establishment. A win would underscore the fact that the "establishment" is really not needed all that much any more. 3) She looks very cute in that ladybug getup. It set my slacks all afluster. Mos' def. Come to my lair home, Christine -- our shenanigans will never see the light of day. I promise. (I would only deign to publish my memoirs in a quality publication like Penthouse Forum, and since that periodical is no more, my more salacious interludes shall have to wait for the vanity press Life of Monty some years hence.)

125 It's interesting that we play this game with the polls during most elections.
The conservative is losing big - until just about the end and then suddenly - seemingly without reason they surge.

It should be obvious to everyone that COD is doing far better than they're telling us. Obama is returning to Delaware this weekend. Some gay guy just claimed to have not slept with her.

The signs are all around you...

126 114 Possible.  Or one person can use several writing styles.  Or several people sharing one machine.  Unless you have ID and physical address, you can't tell.

Still, it's a parlor game at this stage, so I'll demur, as it really is meaningless anyway.

127

Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.) 

I find this to be a bit absurd.  She was polling WAY behind well before she even won the primary.  She's made up a little ground now, but 10 points behind with under 4 days to go is still a big deficit.

I seriously doubt that blue state DE is deciding not to vote for her because the "GOP elite" didn't supporter her.  Does anyone really think that if the likes of Karl Rove spoke glowingly of her she'd be a contender?  How much influence over the general DE voting demographic does Rush think the Washington GOP types have?

Similarly, there's a reason Palin isn't in DE campaigning for her- it's a blue state, and she'd likely be more of a hinderance than help.  The reason Christine O'Donnell is losing isn't because of Karl Rove or the "GOP elite".  It's because Christine O'Donnell is the wrong candidate for that state.

That said- I'd like to see her win over Coons, but the situation hasn't changed in the past two months- it would take a miracle.

128 Average joe and PT Barnum have a lot in common.

129 For every other race, no matter what the polls say, you're saying "Get out there! Help out! Make it happen! Be the wave!" The only time you don't is this race.
---

I think you're jumping to conclusions. 

Charles Lollar, who is up against Steny Hoyer, has received very little coverage here.  I think the first post that has him featured prominently is the sign-stealing post from yesterday. 

There are a lot of races that seem to be out of reach or that are not getting attention.  The O'Donnell v Coons race has gotten tons of coverage.  The folks here know about it and clearly some of them are involved in that campaign. 

130 Posted by: nerdygirl at October 29, 2010 01:39 PM (XvPV1)

Probably closet homosexuals who have yet to come to grips with it.

131 There's a sucker born every thread.

132

Posted by: Monty at October 29, 2010 01:41 PM (4Pleu)

She would look tasty in Road Warrior leather.

133 Rush said O'Donnel is suddenly ahead by 5 with independents.  She's still a long shot... but not impossible.

134 108 Witch Americans have been discriminated against for too long in this country.  It's time to make history by electing our first Witch Senator.

Well, why not.  We have a Muzzie one now.

135 Don't open any packages from Yemen or Europe.

136 She looks very cute in that ladybug getup. It set my slacks all afluster.

You and me both.  This Dustin guy is either deranged or gay.

Incidentally, he's a government employee (works for the Fed in Philadelphia).

137 She's still a loon, but yes!

138

sorry, got tied up.

okay so no conservative woman I know reads gawker. they read RCP, smart girls, nro, HA, and for the truly degenerate conwom, they come here! by the time they're done with that, they don't have time for gawker or the likes of the gossip rags. my extent of gossip comes from seeing yahoo trending topics.

139

That said- I'd like to see her win over Coons, but the situation hasn't changed in the past two months- it would take a miracle.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 29, 2010 01:41 PM (plsiE)

Oh BS. You are overlooking the whole turning your opponent into a Newt factor. That's huge, people won't vote for a Newt. Never have.

140

PAris Paramus...PS. And I've been socking greg along with someone else..i think.

 

141

Has anyone noticed that Paul the Prognosticating Octopus has died, and now Paul the Prognosticating Krugmann is foaming at the mouth and screaming "WE'RE ALL DOOOOMED"?  Maybe they both saw something terrible coming for their political buddies, although I didn't know that the Paul the Octopus was a liberal.

I guess the tentacles should have been a tip-off.

142 >>> Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.)

So I guess that means Limbaugh won't be pimping Rove's books or having him guest-host his show in the future.

Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

143 Here's the bottom line on CO'D's chances: it it's such a slam dunk, why does Obama feel the need to visit Delaware again, when the Dems are in serious trouble all around the nation?

If a Democrat victory is assured, wouldn't a better way for Obama to spend  his time be to try and save Boxer?

144 I seriously doubt that blue state DE is deciding not to vote for her because the "GOP elite" didn't supporter her.  Does anyone really think that if the likes of Karl Rove spoke glowingly of her she'd be a contender?  How much influence over the general DE voting demographic does Rush think the Washington GOP types have?

His line of thinking is probably along the lines of "If the GOP elite and Castle didn't pile on after she won, she'd have been digging out of a smaller hole."

Rove running down O'Donnell *as she was giving her acceptance speech* is something I have NEVER seen for any race before in my life.  I don't think even the Dems would have done that to Alvin Greene if he'd realized he'd won that night and flagged down a camera crew to tell them DeMint started the recession.

145

Hollowpoint.

Palin will show up in DE at the 31:st.

She had to go back home to help Miller .

146 I'm a woman that doesn't like gossip...and if I did it would NOT come from gawker.  I could give two $hits about any entertainment types.  period.

I'd be curious about the gender makeup of gawker posters/viewers...almost bet it's made up of more males than females...but that'd just be my guess.

Since NOW has finally come out against the attacks against conservative women (anyone else as shocked over this as I am???)  Not that I care since they have never spoken for me) Ace should expect a call anytime. :-)

147 That's huge, people won't vote for a Newt. Never have.

Posted by: robtr at October 29, 2010 01:45 PM (hVDig)

Dang.

148

22 Gawker, Gizmodo, Kotaku, Jezebel, io9, and Deadspin (probably others I missed) are one big web-media conglomerate, all the same crew in different flavors.  I follow a couple for other reasons, but otherwise they're leftard as they come.

One of the funniest events I saw with those sites was when the Deadspin and Jezebel commenters ended up getting into a flame war for a little while. 

Jezebel and Gawker are really nothing more than Wonkette-wannabe sites, which ought to tell you how pathetic they really are.  At least Deadspin pulls out some interesting stuff once in a while amidst the pointless sports gossip (The "Your Stadium Sucks" and "Dead Wrestler of the Week" features come to mind, and I still get chuckles thinking of Baby Mangino)

149 Emperor of Icecream Wallace Stevens fan? Let be be finale of seem!

150 Sacred Honor compels me to confess that I've banged every conservative woman who reads Gawker.

151 73
you know what the Democrats need?

A new nifty "D" symbol.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 29, 2010 01:23 PM (uFokq)

They've rolled out some hot new iconography.  The checkmark in a circle with Barry looking cluelessly into the distance.  Kind of looks like Barry sticking his tongue out like one of those doofus grammer school dipwads you used to pick on.  Remember?

152
Monty's points above are astute.

This DE race and the senatorial races in NV, PA, and FL have far more significance and value than just the potential to elect a much-needed Republican to the Senate.

153

Rush usually doesn't say stuff that makes him look stupid. He's almost always right. Just sayin'

Oh, I got polled last night. That was fun. I got to punch 4 for Obama sucks.

154 Coons actually slept with Dustin Dominiak.  We were looking through the window.

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155 Hey Dustin Dominiak, have a coke.

156
Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

Yeah, weird, that.

When someone turns on you and helps your enemies win...

157 157 Coons actually slept with Dustin Dominiak.  We were looking through the window.

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Posted by: RaCoons PAC at October 29, 2010 01:49 PM (ruu60)

That was right before the two of them murdered and mutilated that hobo with ice picks and meat cleavers, right?  I saw the video.  Ghastly.

158 IIRC, at this time in the race Scott Brown was within 5 and some polls had him beginning to take a lead.

159 141

sorry, got tied up.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 29, 2010 01:45 PM (pLTLS)

Was it good for you to?

160 I said it before, I'll say it again--I don't trust any of the polls in this election.  I think none of the polling firms really have a firm grip on the electorate.  I think there is a real chance of an 80 seat pickup.  If that's the case, no Senate seat is safe.  I also don't think McMahon is down by 10.  How can she be down by 10 with two, and possibly 3 house seats ready to flip to R? 

161

Oh, I got polled last night. That was fun. I got to punch 4 for Obama sucks.

Dagny, this is how a moron reads that line:

Oh, I got polled last night. That was fun.I got to punch 4 for Obama sucks.

Just sayin.

162
The checkmark in a circle with Barry looking cluelessly into the distance.

Heh, they might as well just put out posters that say "Accept."

163

164

Wouldn't that be "poled"?

164 I can say with absolute certainty that Will Folks BS story about Nikki Haley absolutely HELPED her in the State of SC.

I doubt its going to hurt McConnell.

165

In my little black book, Christine ODonnell's name has a star, like my little sister, IYKWIMAITTYD bro. 

For $2000 I'm willing to tell all to Gawker the exploits with my Mom, who had the first vagina, no shit, I actually I had the priviledge to come in contact with. I don't remember it but I do know that it was on my birthday. 

166

Wouldn't that be "poled"?

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:54 PM (RKqDk)

Does that mean boned?

167 (slaps head)
That's "O'Donnell"

168
Rudy is in MA today to help Golnik defeat Paul Tsongas' stupid widow.

169 Here's the bottom line on CO'D's chances: it it's such a slam dunk, why does Obama feel the need to visit Delaware again, when the Dems are in serious trouble all around the nation?

If a Democrat victory is assured, wouldn't a better way for Obama to spend  his time be to try and save Boxer?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (tJjm/)

---------------------------

The accepted theory is that it helps tie the GOP to kookery, but I'm not buying it.  It's not working anyway.

170 145 >>> Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.)

So I guess that means Limbaugh won't be pimping Rove's books or having him guest-host his show in the future.

Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (Edu7A)]

Making COD the litmus test for being a true conservative must be one the dumbest political ideas of the past 20 years.

171 "Does anyone really think that if the likes of Karl Rove spoke glowingly of her she'd be a contender?"

It's one thing when you have the leaders saying "Her policies don't line up with mine." It's something else when the leaders say "My toe fungus is smarter and more competent."

That is: Yes, having Palin or DeMint or whoever exclaiming about what a wonderful Conservative she is clearly isn't a selling point in Delaware. Fine. But having practically anyone in 'leadership' on your side running around considering any candidate a literal joke is more damning.

Turn this around:
If Bill Clinton and a single news network (other than Fox) had turned around and laughed at the historic presidential candidate, how inevitable would he have been. He's a complete freaking empty suit cloaked entirely in ideology. People can see this now. And the only reason no one figured this out faster is because of complete message purity from "the legitimate press" and "the left". The fact that "the right" were boggled isn't shocking - the other side is always boggled at any candidate.

She (or anyone) have to be a contender on their own. But negative commentary from one's own side is much more damaging than negative commentary from the other side. And the time for dealing with that is in the candidate selection and then the primary season.

172

andylevy tweet retweeted by iowahawk:

I'm nervous about a potential backlash against suspicious packages

173

I go full brazilian down there. Don't want to loose any paruvian marching powder in the bush IYKWIMAITYD.

174
I had to give up on Deadspin when they trashed Rush.  F*ck those guys.  Used to be a snarky, awesome, take no prisoners place before they got bought.  Now it's The View *spit* for sports.

175 I was out with a fellow moron in Brooklyn for Michael Grimm last night (NY-13); earlier in the day, I handed out cards for Joe DioGuardi NY-Sen; today in a 2 train, a young woman with a mock voting booth, with all Dem names was GOTV-ing.

There is no detectable wave here, but there is no detectable enthusiasm for Dems here, and in NYC, that's a major development.

176 How come we never see BS stories like this about Pelosi or HRC? C'mon, in CA, there must be at least one freak would like to have a sex less one night stand with Pelosi, well other than her husband that is. I can't believe i am writing about Pelosi having sex.

The mental image I have given myself is making my stomach roll, oh what did i do to myself. Christ, i think I'm gonna hurl... Now i know why we never see these types of stories.

177

Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and call you a liar right now and get it over with. Your garden variety retardation is typical, but you reached a little too far with the Eagle scout.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team at October 29, 2010 01:31 PM (eCAn3)

Ummm...uh...nevermind. Just go with it

178

I'm nervous about a potential backlash against suspicious packages

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:55 PM (RKqDk)

Is that what she called your "package"? Suspicious?

179 Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (Edu7A)

Jeffrey Dahmer seemed like a nice guy until he started eating people.

180

Wouldn't that be "poled"?

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:54 PM (RKqDk)

Does that mean boned?

Yes.

181 >>>> When someone turns on you and helps your enemies win...

Yeah, because OD was such a slam-dunk until Rove spoke up.

We've been down this argumentative road before, and proved that it ain't gonna get resolved here.

182 Making COD the litmus test for being a true conservative must be one the dumbest political ideas of the past 20 years. I don't think that's the point he's making at all. The point is: you don't bash your own when a Democrat is right there to take the hit instead. That's just stupid politics. And I think Rush is also saying something deeper about the old notion of "electability" in the WFB sense: times have changed, but a lot of the old GOP bulls are stuck in the old patterns.

183

Wouldn't that be "poled"?

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:54 PM (RKqDk)

doesn't matter.

 

184

Rush usually doesn't say stuff that makes him look stupid. He's almost always right. Just sayin'

Oh, I got polled last night. That was fun. I got to punch 4 for Obama sucks.

Rush is as much an entertainer and businessman as commentator.  He's playing to his listeners to get them riled up with an unproveable assertation.  Good for ratings, but I think it's a cheap shot no matter how disillusioned one is (for good reason) with the GOP establishment.

No one can say for certain what the polling would be if everyone associated with the GOP were 100% behind her from the beginning.  I find it unlikely that Rove and the "GOP establishment / elite" have a strong pull with the left-leaning DE electorate though.

 

185
Here's the bottom line on CO'D's chances: if it's such a slam dunk, why does Obama feel the need to visit Delaware again...?

CC, also remember that Coons just came out all of a sudden in support of the Bush tax cuts!
Not a move you'd expect from a left winger who is supposedly cruising to victory.

186

this guy was soooooooooooo impotent! 

187 CC, also remember that Coons just came out all of a sudden in support of the Bush tax cuts!
Not a move you'd expect from a left winger who is supposedly cruising to victory.

Yeah... I think there was peice on Hillbuzz about panic over some internal polling in DE.  Not sure I entirely buy it.... but sometime things make you go hmmmmmmmm.

188 >>> Jeffrey Dahmer seemed like a nice guy until he started eating people.

So apparently we're to believe Rove is actually, deep down, a big lib, and it finally surfaced with regard to the OD race. Got it.

189 If a Democrat victory is assured, wouldn't a better way for Obama to spend his time be to try and save Boxer? Posted by: CoolCzech at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (tJjm/) Yes, if we were talking about a *normal* Democrat president. But we're talking about Obama here and he *must* be seen contributing to a "huge" success. So the dems look at where they think they'll have their biggest success, shove Obama into it, and them pack him off to buttf*ck nowhere for the aftermath of the election to keep him out of the bloodbath. It's all about image.

190

Concerning how well the system worked and all that; I'm not taking anything away from the cops and all that, but I think Homeland Security should probably play down how well the system worked.

Evidently - The packages made it onto the planes.  They made it through international airports.  They made it into this country.  They made it onto delivery trucks.  Evidently.

Had they been real bombs, a lot of people would be dead.

The system sorta worked.  Really pretty much the most one could say about it, imo.

191 Paris! That was me! Anyway, the neighborhoods of Dyker Heights, Bay Ridge and Staten Island are considerably more conservative than the rest of the city and in fact except for the last few terms, that CD has been Republican for 30 years. Nice hanging with you!

192
So apparently we're to believe Rove is actually, deep down, a big lib, party elitist who doesnt appreciate the upstarts fucking up his master plan.

FIFY

193 174 145 >>> Rush said this AM that if O'Donnell loses by only 4 or 5%, we have the elitists in GOP to thank (Rush said blame, actually.)

So I guess that means Limbaugh won't be pimping Rove's books or having him guest-host his show in the future.

Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (Edu7A)]

Making COD the litmus test for being a true conservative must be one the dumbest political ideas of the past 20 years.

Posted by: robviously at October 29, 2010 01:55 PM (Xq2WY)

Yeah it is stupid.  I've been saying since when is the Senate race in fucking Delaware the hill on which to die on to determine if you are conservative enough.

That said what Rove did after the primary over was complete bullshit.  You don't do your digs like that after the person is your candidate.  Also Rove had the interview with the German paper that wasn't very flattering of the Tea Party.  So fuck him.

194
Got it.

No, you don't. But I see you graduated from Ace's College of Conclusion Jumping & Exaggeration

Rove proved himself to be a) a Republican, and b) for Rove. His 'values' and my values don't seem to overlap, after all.

195 Anyway, I would love to see Weiner bite the dust, along with his fellow commies Ackerman, Nadler and Charlie Brylcreem Rangel.

196 I seriously doubt that blue state DE is deciding not to vote for her because the "GOP elite" didn't supporter her.

I didn't hear Rush, but I'd think the idea would be that she entered the general trashed and refudiated by the GOP to a degree and in a specific way that made her a national media/left target and symbol of "What's Wrong with the Teacrackaz"—the GOP-selected target for anti-teabaggery. In a "blue" state, specifically, because "blue" voters are low-information voters, the resulting worldwide (and it really is worldwide) hate-barrage may have nudged enough middle-of-the-vote types away from her to make a loud, send-a-message loss out of what otherwise may have been a small win.

Plausible. But.

If the GOP hadn't nuked her from orbit in the primary, she'd have lost it. There's no "Senator O'Donnell" alternate universe.

197 the system did not work at all......the stuff got on planes......

198 The mental image I have given myself is making my stomach roll, oh what did i do to myself. Christ, i think I'm gonna hurl... Now i know why we never see these types of stories. Posted by: Penfold at October 29, 2010 01:57 PM (1PeEC) And whatever you do, don't think about whether she's furry or not. Just don't.

199

So COD wouldn't get any of the blame if she loses?  Not for running a bad campaign or for being a professional candidate with few, if any, career accomplishments?  Not for spending the early part of her career making a fool of herself to amuse Bill Maher?

The Gawker thing is horrible, but COD was never in the same category as Palin, McMahon, Whitman, Ellmers, McClung, Bachman, etc.  Female conservatives who are role models for the rest of us.

Posted by: robviously at October 29, 2010 01:27 PM (Xq2WY)

She's in a new category - Republican candidates rob likes to run down more than any Democrat.

200 Here's an idea:  a moron meetup on the Upper West Side, in some bar where we have a chance to see lots of unhappy people. Twitter @ParisParamus

201 In college, I once got drunk and cuddled up with a Teddy Ruxpin doll.  The only reason we didn't have sex is because it kept saying "No."

I'm respectful of shit likek that.

202

Rush is as much an entertainer and businessman as commentator.  He's playing to his listeners to get them riled up with an unproveable assertation. 

That's my point. Rush as opposed to others wouldn't come out and say she's close without knowing something. We'll be able to tell by the final count how close she was. He will often say something that seems odd but will always be proven in the end. I think it's because he has been told things not because he's precient.

I'll never forget him calling Crystal Magnum a "whore" on day 2 of the lax scandal. Totally out of left field and he was right about her, uh, business.

203 Dustin Dominiak--if that's the name of the sleaze that did or didn't do Ms. O'Donnell a few years back--is simply a skidmark in Obama's skivvies.

204 >>> The point is: you don't bash your own when a Democrat is right there to take the hit instead. That's just stupid politics.

So is believing that all areas of the country are comprised of the same ideological make-up, and that just because one mouths the correct conservative points means they have have a chance of winning in heavily liberal districts.

Limbaugh's assertion that conservatism wins every time it's properly enunciated is a crock. Just ask Barry Goldwater. (Or maybe he just wasn't conservative enough.)

205
Paris! That was me!

Wait- there was a mini-moronmeetup and nobody got thrown in jail?

Gotta admit, a little disappointed in you both.

206 Remember that Coons just came out all of a sudden in support of the Bush tax cuts!

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207

And I think Rush is also saying something deeper about the old notion of "electability" in the WFB sense: times have changed, but a lot of the old GOP bulls are stuck in the old patterns.

That I'd agree with- see NY-23, Crist, Specter, Merkcokeski, etc.

While a Scott Brown can win in a blue state like MA or DE, it still doesn't mean a Jim DeMint or (especially) a Christine O'Donnell could.

208 Hey Dustin Dominiak, have a coke.

Posted by: Clarence Thomas at October 29, 2010 01:50 PM (2p0e3)

Don't mind if I do...(sniff sniff)...

209 I go to Gawker a few times a month for the 'blind items'. There is almost always a story about some 'horrible' republican in the top scroll. The comments from the demented hollywood elite posters are vile and usually mention raping or killing a republican. Sooo tolerant, those libs.

210

While a Scott Brown can win in a blue state like MA or DE, it still doesn't mean a Jim DeMint or (especially) a Christine O'Donnell could.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 29, 2010 02:07 PM (plsiE)

Well we already know Castle cannot.

211 huh? i don't go to gawker for gossip. TMZ is the place!

212

the system did not work at all......the stuff got on planes......

Yes but what happened today was all so unexpected. 

Really up until now the system has worked great.   We've done a great job going after those violent right wing domestic terrorist groups such as former military personnel, pro-life activits, christians, etc.  We continue to do a great job.

213 Fucking Chimp Community College poll shows 58% of morons like to argue with sockpuppets.

FTFY

And, on COD losing by 4 or 5 being wimpy Repubs' fault:
Ish.
Yes, she was far behind in the beginning, but how much time did she have to spend fighting her own party when they should have been helping her instead?  I'd say 4 or 5 is a bit much to lie at the feet of Rove and Krauthammer, but I'd say if she loses by 2 or 3 you have to consider what "could have been" if they'd been as big on "unity" when their candidate lost as they are when the Establishment wins.

214 Say, have I ever mentioned to you fellas how much I enjoy sucking cock?  Call me for a one-night stand!

215 It's very tempting to go into politics now. I would love the dirt that would be dished about me..... once she disassembled a VAX at her school over the weekend! she worked at a math camp! Can you trust a person like that?

216 So is believing that all areas of the country are comprised of the same ideological make-up, and that just because one mouths the correct conservative points means they have have a chance of winning in heavily liberal districts. This very election is a repudiation of everything you just said. "Conservatism", as broadly defined, appeals to most Americans in just about every region of the country. If Chris Christie can win in New Jersey and Scott Brown in Massachusetts, then "conservatism" must have some universal basis, yes? Granted, Scott Brown is not the same kind of GOP'er that would run in, say, Utah -- but he's far from a Turd Kennedy clone. You're taking an argument that no one is making and inveighing against it.

217 >>> Rove proved himself to be a) a Republican, and b) for Rove. His 'values' and my values don't seem to overlap, after all.

"Republican" is not an ideology, it's a voting alignment. So when you say your values don't overlap with Rove's, are you therefore saying that he's not a conservative? That he doesn't have many of the same ideological beliefs you do?

218

Interesting how one can go from having respectable conservative bona fides to being ostracized in such a quick turnaround....

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (Edu7A)]

I also add that its not that interesting.  Its common and expected given the correct circumstances.  Just ask the people of Cleveland.

219
Monty's link on the sidebar makes me wonder why we don't use Bill Maher.

Why don't we make the Democrats denounce him as the 'face' of the Democrat party?

220 I hate Gawker.  I've only read them when linked from, well, this place or other sites.  They are so very liberal and rather condescending.  Also, they suck.

221 205 Here's an idea: a moron meetup on the Upper West Side, in some bar where we have a chance to see lots of unhappy people. Twitter @ParisParamus Posted by: ParisParamus at October 29, 2010 02:06 PM (aYS5W) Might be able to sneak out. The old lib lady gets home late that night. Heh, heh, heh!

222 ooooh, if there's a moron meetup in NYC on Tuesday night, I just might have to go.... .....could we meet at a brother jimmy's bbq? i'd love to eat a pork sandwich while giggling into my beer.

223

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224 Rove running down O'Donnell *as she was giving her acceptance speech* is something I have NEVER seen for any race before in my life.  I don't think even the Dems would have done that to Alvin Greene if he'd realized he'd won that night and flagged down a camera crew to tell them DeMint started the recession.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 29, 2010 01:46 PM (onSgJ)

Rove is a part of the ruling class.  He's closer to Trent Lott than he is to COD, Joe Miller, Sarah Palin, DeMint or Sharon Angle.  Yesterday he was on Hannity's Radio show trying to walk back his crack about the Tea Party not being sophisticated.  That and running down COD puts him on the wrong side in my book. He's not a part of the solution, he's part of the problem, like Lott, Graham, Snow and Collins, Castle, Murkowski, and McCullum.  Their first impulse is the politics, not the principles. 

225

where we have a chance to see lots of unhappy people.

Oh please take lots and lots of pictures!

226 >>> "Conservatism", as broadly defined, appeals to most Americans in just about every region of the country.

Please shown your work.

227 i was beside myself this year at primary time... i actually had someone i could vote for! i could not believe my great good luck.

228

That's my point. Rush as opposed to others wouldn't come out and say she's close without knowing something. We'll be able to tell by the final count how close she was. He will often say something that seems odd but will always be proven in the end. I think it's because he has been told things not because he's precient.

Not really.  If she loses by double digits, he can claim that it was the fault of the GOP "elite" that it wasn't much closer and thus he was right.  If she loses by only 5 points, he can claim that she would've won if not for the "elite" and was right all along.  Either way, a loss is a loss.

That's the thing with unproveable assertations- you can claim to be correct no matter what the outcome because it's impossible to prove you were wrong.

229 pictures? i have a flip video camera.... i could vid real-time reactions as the returns come in.... oooooh.

230

Just ask Barry Goldwater. (Or maybe he just wasn't conservative enough.)

Or maybe the democrat president had been shot............

231 know boycotts are hard, and all, but really, conservative women -- you have to stop reading Gawker. Huh. I'd better start, then, so I can stop? Only gossip site I occasionally read is Agent Bedhead.

232 Fucking Chimp Community College poll shows 58%99.9994% of morons like to argue with sockpuppets.

Fixed more.

233

That's the thing with unproveable assertations- you can claim to be correct no matter what the outcome because it's impossible to prove you were wrong.

Except that's not what he's doing. He's asserting it's close. That is proveable.

234

lower taxes, less govt intrusion, more freedom, less radical social nonsense -- all  these core values are popular and mainstream in every state.

235

Please shown your work.

Dude, your asking Monty to show his work?  You're new here right?

236 Please shown your work. I'll hand in my paper Tuesday night, chum (actually, early Wednesday morning). I fully expect to receive an A.

237
pictures? i have a flip video camera.... i could vid real-time reactions as the returns come in.... oooooh.

Tell us more about disassembling that VAX, plz.  Got kinda hot and bothered, you can't leave me hanging.

And that one time, at math camp?

238 And, I'm pretty sure that I watch The View with less frequency than Allah.

239

Just ask Barry Goldwater. (Or maybe he just wasn't conservative enough.)

Or maybe the democrat president had been shot............

He also didn't receive much support from "moderate" Republicans. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

240 Here's the bottom line on CO'D's chances: it it's such a slam dunk, why does Obama feel the need to visit Delaware again, when the Dems are in serious trouble all around the nation?

Because the winner gets seated immediately.  They need this seat to be Dem until at least January to push through their scorched earth bullshit prior to the changeover.

they need this one bad and they ain't taking any chances.

241
Fixed more.

Posted by: Al at October 29, 2010 02:15 PM (MzQOZ)

No it's not.

242 What the hell is a "sexless one night stand"? Ask xbrad.

243 That and running down COD puts him on the wrong side in my book. He's not a part of the solution, he's part of the problem, like Lott, Graham, Snow and Collins, Castle, Murkowski, and McCullum.  Their first impulse is the politics, not the principles. 

Posted by: Minuteman at October 29, 2010 02:12 PM (264X9)

I don't get what he's trying to accomplish.  You don't eat your own, but he keeps doing it.  If it was only once I'd forget about it, but he just keeps after it.  He has totally lost all credibility and is no longer trustworthy in my book.  He obviously has an ulterior motive that is not above board, imo.

244

pictures? i have a flip video camera.... i could vid real-time reactions as the returns come in.... oooooh.

That would be cool.  Anyone else remember MSNBC on the night Scott Brown won?  ha, ha, ha, - it was like a funeral parlor.  Rachel in JJ Foley's looking like her best friend had died. Matthews, Olbermanns - could barely contain themselves.  I usually never watch that channel but couldn't help myself that night.  Tuesday should be interesting.  Hope they have lots of anti-depressants available.

245 231 >>> "Conservatism", as broadly defined, appeals to most Americans in just about every region of the country.

Please shown your work.

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 02:13 PM (Edu7A)

November 2, 2010. 

246
I'll argue that "Republican" is an ideology in that it is for big government, pork, and lifetime political hackery.

247 >>> Dude, your asking Monty to show his work?  You're new here right?

No, I'm not new here. Monty made an broad assertion which I find unsupportable, so I'm asking him to back it up with some credible data. Why, is Monty infallible?

248 Islamofaschist terrorist organization CAIR endorses the Demonrats in California.

249

He also didn't receive much support from "moderate" Republicans. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Nelson Rockafeller was busy on a couch somewhere.....

250
Why, is Monty infallible?

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 02:18 PM (Edu7A)

Why not?  You obviously believe that YOU are.

251 Sugar Ray Bradbury, from my perspective, it isn't whether or not Rove is really a conservative, moderate, liberal, etc.  He's recognized as a "leader" for our side.  So, what matters to me is, is his way of thinking (i.e. strategy), his view of what should be, and his method of accomplishing conservative goals the best method to follow?

Maybe 10 years ago, yes.  Maybe.  But today, we are in the midst of a window of opportunity.  A large portion of the electorate is really fed up with "politics as usual" and while Rove and others in the "establishment" pay lip service to it.  They either don't really want such a dramatic change, or don't believe it's truly possible.

This makes them a hindered, not a help.

252

Rove is applying conventional politico calculus and has had a hard time accepting the new political maelstrom created by the tea party movement. 

Everything Rove knows is running the board with keen instincts and foresight.

The thing is . . . the board has changed along with the pieces and the change has rendered Karl's political strategi somewhat inert . . . for it's a brave new political world and Karl's insider's experience, while interesting and compelling, is no longer trump.

The tea party is a phemonmenon that is breaking all of the rules and one that is run completely by concept and the sentiment of millions and millions of Americans. The concept is consitutional fidelity and fiscal responsibility, that is free of a leader for the leader is America and the concepts are purely American. 

Those wishing to quarrel with the tea party are essentially quarrelling with the essence of America.

 Karl . . . is learning this.

253 Well we already know Castle cannot.

Being as how he's not on the ballot, obviously he can't win. If he won the primary, he'd have almost certainly won by a wide margin based on the polling at the time.

Some people are OK with tossing out a "RINO" even if it means ensuring that a "bearded Marxist" takes his place.  Some of us disagree- that's what the entire argument has revolved around.

254
No it's not.

hahaha, it took me a minute, but I got it.

^{too subtle for the AoS crowd}

255 Why, is Monty infallible? I AM THAT I AM. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I MADE THE WORLD? THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER MONTY'S BEFORE ME. MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN.

256 >>> I'll argue that "Republican" is an ideology in that it is for big government, pork, and lifetime political hackery.

Conservatism is about ideology and philosophy. "Republican" relates to politics, which is about getting people elected and advancing an ideology through the legislative process.

257

Oh, I got polled last night. That was fun. I got to punch 4 for Obama sucks.

Posted by: dagny at October 29, 2010 01:48 PM (RKqDk)

You idjit!!!!!! You're not supposed to Punch 4!!! Punch Down!!!!! PUNCH DOWN!!!!! PUNCH DOWN!!!!

258

So, I guess the RINOs would rather see a Marxist get elected than COD - tells you a lot about how much they care about this country.

259

Why, is Monty infallible?

Yep, your new here. 

Is your question rhetorical?

260

Except that's not what he's doing. He's asserting it's close. That is proveable.

What's "close"?  People here are insinuating that being 10 points behind is "within striking distance".  With three and a half days to go, it isn't.

261

I don't get what he's trying to accomplish.  You don't eat your own, but he keeps doing it.  If it was only once I'd forget about it, but he just keeps after it.  He has totally lost all credibility and is no longer trustworthy in my book.  He obviously has an ulterior motive that is not above board, imo.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 29, 2010 02:17 PM (r1h5M)

He doesn't like the ground-up approach of the Tea Party.  It blows apart his top-down approach that he is credited with using to get Bush elected.  It essentially can render him obsolete if true grassroots efforts can get candidates nominated and elected without The Architect running it.

262 Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 02:06 PM (Edu7A)

So, "Same ideological make up" follows from "Don't bash your own when the enemy is right there?"  To what school of logic did you go?

I don't know that anyone said COD is the benchmark of being "conservative enough."  What we said then (and say now) is that Castle was not conservative at all.

Further, we're no longer talking about the primary, we're talking about the action of certain Republicans since the primary- specifically Rove and Krauthammer, but others as well, wherein they decided that continuing to re-hash the primary and pronounce our chances at the seat "DOOOOOOMED!!!eleventy!!" would be the right thing to do.

That was unnecessary and, frankly, stupid.  Real conservatives got behind McCain.  We got behind Scott Brown (who is a RINO, but we knew that when we helped him get elected).  We're getting behind Whittman and Fiorina in CA (even though there were more conservative candidates in the primaries).  It is only the people who were pulling for Castle who refuse to get behind COD, defend her, and attack her opponent.

So, tell me again why the Establishment would not at least share some of the blame if she loses?

263

AM THAT I AM.

I like the translation "I AM WHO AM" better.

 

 

264 237 Fucking Chimp Community College poll shows 58%99.9994% of morons like to argue with sockpuppets.

Fixed more.

Posted by: Al at October 29, 2010 02:15 PM (MzQOZ)

That's not true!

265 Just sent COD another $50

266

Jeffrey Dahmer seemed like a nice guy until he started eating people.

Posted by: Cicero at October 29, 2010 01:57 PM (QKKT0)

That is a keeper

267 256...sock off...spell and grammar check on.

268 So, I guess the RINOs would rather see a Marxist get elected than COD - tells you a lot about how much they care about this country. Posted by: D. at October 29, 2010 02:23 PM Exactly. If RINOs are going to blame conservatives not voting for McCain in 2008 for giving us Obama, then if O'Donnell loses, I'd say it's fair game to blame RINOs for giving us the Bearded Marxist. Since RINOs are still whining about O'Donnell beating out Castle. Well, RINOs now need to live up to their own standards. If they expected conservatives to get 100% behind McCain in 2008 to prevent Obama, then, by their own rules, they should be 100% behind O'Donnell to prevent Coons. According to RINOs, when McCain lost, it wasn't that he was a crappy-ass candidate, it was the fault of conservatives who didn't support him. Well, the same applies here then. If O'Donnell loses, it's not the fault of her candidacy, it's the fault of RINOs who are not supporting her.

269 Moses: The Hebrew doesn't translate well. A more accurate but less-literal translation would be: "I, who existed before anything and will exist when everything that is, is no more." The Revelation of John attempts to encompass it by using the "I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end". Me? I just say that I been rolling this hood way before any of the other homies. Way before. The veriest OG there is.

270

I think the bigger point about Rove is that he is "supposedly" known for his brilliant strategery (I don't agree, but that's beside the point).

What the heck kind of "strategy" is going on air just a couple of hours after the primary for your party to diss said party's duly-elected candidate for the general election?

THAT'S what people can't understand, even those who aren't "big-picture" types.  I mean, what coach in his right mind would tell anyone who will listen that his team isn't bringing its "A" game?

You play with the team that takes the field.  Sometimes those 3rd-stringers surprise everyone by running the ball down the field and winning the game.

271 Further, we're no longer talking about the primary, we're talking about the action of certain Republicans since the primary- specifically Rove and Krauthammer, but others as well, wherein they decided that continuing to re-hash the primary and pronounce our chances at the seat "DOOOOOOMED!!!eleventy!!" would be the right thing to do.

Yep. Not getting on board with O'Donnell is one thing, but cutting her off at the knees was quite another. It was petty and destructive. I doubt she will win now but her chances of victory would have been a lot better had those douchenozzles restrained themselves.

272 203 The mental image I have given myself is making my stomach roll, oh what did i do to myself. Christ, i think I'm gonna hurl... Now i know why we never see these types of stories.
Posted by: Penfold at October 29, 2010 01:57 PM (1PeEC)

And whatever you do, don't think about whether she's furry or not. Just don't.

Posted by: joncelli at October 29, 2010 02:05 PM (RD7QR)

Damn you, joncelli.  Damn you.

273 233 -- That's the thing with unproveable assertations- you can claim to be correct no matter what the outcome because it's impossible to prove you were wrong.

A less charitable and more accurate description of this phenomenon exists in short-form.  It's called "ass-covering".

274 Rush just said that he got an email from Mike Allen at Politico that says they are working on a story about how the GOP leadership is talking right now about coalescing around a single candidate in order to stop Palin. These are the same people who supported Charle Crist. Enough said.

275 I get all my celebrity gossip from Look Magazine.  Apparently, Vivian Vance is unhappy with her role on The Lucy Show. 

276 Rush just said that he got an email from Mike Allen at Politico And Rush knows as well as everyone else that Politico exists solely to give the Democrats sloppy tongue-baths.

277 273  -- If they expected conservatives to get 100% behind McCain in 2008 to prevent Obama, then, by their own rules, they should be 100% behind O'Donnell to prevent Coons.

Except they didn't.  Instead, they chose to spend the following month bitching, moaning, and very publicly contemplating whether or not it was better to go ahead and let Obama win the election.

And, of course, Limbaugh had spent every day for the two weeks prior to McCain's locking up of the nomination telling everyone who would listen that, if McCain were to win the GOP primaries, it would DEEE-STROY the Republican Party.

Turns out it didn't.  And, of course, he's covering his ass on that one, too.

278 If he won the primary, he'd have almost certainly won by a wide margin based on the polling at the time.

That's the point; HE DIDN'T WIN THE PRIMARY!

People keep treating the primary like it's some kind of low bar you need to step over.  It is just as critical to win your primary as any other step.  Castle didn't, which proves he was a bad campaigner.

It was always unrealistic to expect GOP voters *in Delaware* to move leftward to accept Castle, rather than Castle tacking rightward to move toward the GOP base *in Delaware*.

You can say, "He would have lost had he tacked rightward."  Well, we know for certain by not tacking rightward he lost.  Would you really tell him to not do things differently if we did it all over again?

279 No, I'm not new here. Monty made an broad assertion which I find unsupportable, so I'm asking him to back it up with some credible data. Why, is Monty infallible?

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 02:18 PM (Edu7A)

Because he's Monty. Get it?

280 268

AM THAT I AM.

I like the translation "I AM WHO AM" better.

 Posted by: Moses at October 29, 2010 02:25 PM (AT52Q)

And I yam what I yam...

281

So, "Same ideological make up" follows from "Don't bash your own when the enemy is right there?"  To what school of logic did you go?

I don't know that anyone said COD is the benchmark of being "conservative enough."  What we said then (and say now) is that Castle was not conservative at all.

Further, we're no longer talking about the primary, we're talking about the action of certain Republicans since the primary- specifically Rove and Krauthammer, but others as well, wherein they decided that continuing to re-hash the primary and pronounce our chances at the seat "DOOOOOOMED!!!eleventy!!" would be the right thing to do.

Rove and Krauthammer weren't speaking as campaign strategists, they were fulfilling their roles as political news analysts.

As much as you don't like to hear them say it, they were correct based on the evidence at hand.  O'Donnell was doomed from the start and the seat was lost to the Dems the moment she got nominated.  How credible an analyst would they be if they got on the COD bandwagon and cheered that she had a good chance at winning when they knew it wasn't true?

I don't expect (or want) the likes of Rove or Krauthammer to be completely objective, but what use are they as political commentators and analysts if they have no credibility?

282 @280 We should start a pile of cash labeled: "Mike Allen, we'll give you $XX,XXX if you'll name names."

283 So apparently we're to believe Rove is actually, deep down, a big lib, and it finally surfaced with regard to the OD race. Got it.

Posted by: Sugar Ray Bradbury at October 29, 2010 02:00 PM (Edu7A)

No.  Rove thinks he's better than you and me and OD and he doesn't have time for trash like you and me or the unwashed rabble of the Tea Party.  Politics is too important and complicated and only people like Rove and Axlerod and Pelosi and McCain should have any say in it, and the law can only be accessed by the sophisticated outlook of wise latinas and Mall Cop lesbians that went to Harvard. Only simpletons think that the constutition means what it says, illegal aliens are outside the law, and that you can't spend money you don't have. Rove is a political operative.  He's probably less conservative than Dick Morris.   He's a null set.

284 Because he's Monty. Get it? Okay, enough with the blasphemy. I just received word from God that he's got a nice fat aneurysm queued up and ready to go if I don't knock this shit off right now. I am but a pair of ragged claws scuttling across the floors of silent seas....

285

Posted by: Minuteman at October 29, 2010 02:41 PM (264X9)

Perfectly and succinctly stated. +1

286 And, of course, Limbaugh had spent every day for the two weeks prior to McCain's locking up of the nomination telling everyone who would listen that, if McCain were to win the GOP primaries, it would DEEE-STROY the Republican Party.

Hmmm... now what could that mean, could it be that, after McCain got the nomination, Rush quit bashing him?  Why, yes, yes it could.

Also, I'm not sure the Republican Party hasn't been destroyed.  Sometimes it takes a while for the damaged ship actually to sink. 

I'm also not sure who you're talking about thinking that letting Obama win (even for a second after McCain locked up the primary) would be better than supporting McCain.  I never heard Rush, Hannity, or Levin say that.  I never said that.  Back then I was only occasionally lurking on AoSHQ, but I don't remember anyone here saying that...

Is it possible that you're missing the difference between some Conservative schlub who most people are never going to know about, let alone know what they say, and Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer?

287 I think Sugar Ray Bradbury and Hollowpoint should go get a room; in it, they can take turns screwing a life-size poster of Carl Rove with a hole in it. or, make that 2 holes.

288 I am but a pair of ragged claws scuttling across the floors of silent seas....

Posted by: Monty at October 29, 2010 02:43 PM (4Pleu)

Dennis Hopper, Apocalypse Now.

289 Hollowpoint, there's a hell of a lot of room between "She's a complete lost cause" and "She's a long shot." They were running around acting like a horse would be more electable.

Pointing out "Well, she's obviously a long shot" isn't kneecapping. It would be truthful.

But "She's a complete lost cause" is kneecapping, and it is at least somewhat self-fulfilling.

290 I'm a conservative chick but I've never read Gawker.  Alas, I do watch Real Housewives of New Jersey.  Sorry but it makes me feel less like the great unwashed middle American that I am. 

291 And Rush knows as well as everyone else that Politico exists solely to give the Democrats sloppy tongue-baths.

Posted by: Monty at October 29, 2010 02:36 PM (4Pleu)

Hey! Don't forget about me.

 

292 Dennis Hopper, Apocalypse Now. T. S. Eliot, The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, actually. (Though I think you're right; that movie had lots of little bits of T. S. Eliot's stuff scattered through it. Brando's recitation of "The Hollow Men" still gives me the chills.)

293 And, of course, Limbaugh had spent every day for the two weeks prior to McCain's locking up of the nomination telling everyone who would listen that, if McCain were to win the GOP primaries, it would DEEE-STROY the Republican Party.

1) He stopped saying that when McCain became the nominee.  Contrast with Rove.
2) If '08 wasn't the DEEE-STRUCTION of the Republican Party I'd hate to see the actual thing.

294 RCP has safe Dem House seats down to 121, from 123.  The number of safe seats has been consistently falling for the House, Senate seems to be a lot of back and forth, but I don't think there is one safe, likely or leaning Dem that isn't in play this time.  Some of the the races that are showing safe haven't been polled in a while, and there is probably a reason for that.  Certainly wouldn't want to advertise a complete renunciation of Obama and Dem policies.  Not polling these leave some that some Dem voters will show up to vote.

295

No most reasonable people agree that the primary is were you determine your candidate and the general is where you get behind that candidate even if you did not vote for them.   You sound like we should have just waived the primary and appointed Castle as the candidate because polling says he was ahead of the Dem.  The cognitive dissonance in you is strong.

No, most reasonable and sane people (i.e. not you) recognized that she had almost no chance at winning even before she won the primary.  To say so wasn't an act of sabotage or a betrayal of conservative principles- it was an obvious conclusion that was then and is now correct.

296

T. S. Eliot, The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock, actually.

I haven't read that (obviously). Is it worthwhile?

297 293 -- Hmmm... now what could that mean, could it be that, after McCain got the nomination, Rush quit bashing him?  Why, yes, yes it could.

Why, no ... not if you're capable of discerning damnation with faint praise, with the full intent of depressing turnout in order to make sure McCain didn't win so as to prevent him from DEEE-STROYING the Republican Party.

Then, of course, you had Robert Stacy McCain -- who very proudly refused to vote for him and paraded his support for Bob Barr around for all to see.  Then, there were leading lights like John Hawkins who refused to get on board until Obama finally frightened him enough to do it -- and even then to call his support lukewarm would be overstating things by a longshot.

No ... those guys, along with Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity half-assed their way through the rest of the election, and never passed up an opportunity to tut-tut McCain's every move.  In fact, it wasn't until Palin was announced as the running mate that any of these guys could find it within themselves to say anything positive about McCain.  And, even then, it was qualified.

298 maddog: It's one of his best poems, I think. Less abstruse than The Waste Land. I love the first stanza: LET us go then, you and I, When the evening is spread out against the sky Like a patient etherised upon a table; Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets, The muttering retreat Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells: Streets that follow like a tedious argument Of insidious intent To lead you to an overwhelming question … Oh, do not ask, “What is it?” Let us go and make our visit. In the room the women come and go Talking of Michelangelo

299 Here's a link to the poem if you want to read the whole thing.

300 No ... those guys, along with Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity half-assed their way through the rest of the election, and never passed up an opportunity to tut-tut McCain's every move.  In fact, it wasn't until Palin was announced as the running mate that any of these guys could find it within themselves to say anything positive about McCain.  And, even then, it was qualified.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at October 29, 2010 02:53 PM (PmZ9N)

Well since you are doing the same thing in reverse, you can hardly call them out for it, can you?

301 No. Rove thinks he's better than you and me and OD and he doesn't have time for trash like you and me or the unwashed rabble of the Tea Party. Politics is too important and complicated and only people like Rove and Axlerod and Pelosi and McCain should have any say in it, and the law can only be accessed by the sophisticated outlook of wise latinas and Mall Cop lesbians that went to Harvard. Only simpletons think that the constutition means what it says, illegal aliens are outside the law, and that you can't spend money you don't have. Rove is a political operative. He's probably less conservative than Dick Morris. He's a null set. Posted by: Minuteman at October 29, 2010 02:41 PM This. Politicians and political pundits like Rove and Krauthammer feel about the American public in general and the TEA Party in particular the same way that the MF-ing media feel about "new media" and bloggers. Recall how the MF-ing media feels that only they are deemed worthy enough and bright enough and educated enough and have enough layers of fact checking to bring the news to the unwashed masses. And bloggers and new media and alternative media are just too stupid and uneducated and untrained to be able to do what these geniuses do. No way an average person can just start writing and doing media on its own without all their brilliant training and indoctrination in the best journalism schools across the nation. That's how politicians and political pundits like Rove, et al, feel about this new rise in the average American who is taking an active role in politics now. They feel the average American trying to get into politics can't possibly understand the political game or the US Constitution or legislation, etc as well as they all can. They say, you don't understand the game, it's not as easy as you think, blah blah f-ing blah. Well, that nonsense right there is the reason why people are getting involved, because we know that it IS easier than these elitist jackasses are making things. There is no need for a bunch of out-of-touch lawyers who don't write any legislation, don't read any legislation and don't understand anything about economics, healthcare, energy, immigration, etc to be in office. We've seen 2000-page bills that do nothing but make things worse. The American people took the time to do what their representatives did not even bother to do themselves -- READ THE BILLS -- and came to understand the clusterfark that were the bills and realized that they don't want these jackasses representing them anymore. They will work to represent themselves. Thus rose the TEA Part made up of average Americans across the nation the elites all think are just stupid ignoramuses who are to be controlled, not represented. We are getting back to our foundation: we don't need these elitist, out-of-touch pricks governing us from afar, We, the People, can govern ourselves. We don't need people like Rove or Krauthammer explaining things to us as if we're too stupid to understand it ourselves. We, the People, can govern ourselves. And that's why the elitists can't stand. Just like the MF-ing media mocked bloggers as just a bunch of stupid, ignorant people in their pajamas, so too are people like Rove and Krauthammer mocking the rise of the TEA Party Patriots in the same manner. And just like you don't need to be some elitist to be a journalist, we're going to prove that you don't need to be some elitist lawyer to be a Congressman or Senator. As my moniker would say, on November 2nd, We the People are "gonna pull the whole thing down. [We, the People are] gonna bring the whole fuckin' diseased, corrupt temple down on your head. It's gonna be biblical."

302 To say so wasn't an act of sabotage or a betrayal of conservative principles- it was an obvious conclusion that was then and is now correct.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 29, 2010 02:50 PM (plsiE)

Well if its so obvious, everyone knew it already. So repeating it 1000 times is just boring and useless.

303 274 Moses:

The Hebrew doesn't translate well. A more accurate but less-literal translation would be: "I, who existed before anything and will exist when everything that is, is no more." The Revelation of John attempts to encompass it by using the "I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end".

Me? I just say that I been rolling this hood way before any of the other homies. Way before. The veriest OG there is.

Posted by: Monty at October 29, 2010 02:29 PM (4Pleu)

 

Wouldn't be easier to say "The Uncaused Cause"?

304 302 --  He stopped saying that when McCain became the nominee.  Contrast with Rove.

He stopped saying it explicitly, but it was implicit from then on. 

If '08 wasn't the DEEE-STRUCTION of the Republican Party I'd hate to see the actual thing.

It's hard to believe a DEEE-STROYED GOP could be about to take well over 50 seats in the House and actually maintain hope of regaining the Senate in less than two years.

305

I've read more Delaware at this site then I ever have in my whole life.

I live half-an-hour from Delaware, and I don't care about Delaware this much.

That said, I wish MD had a Republican Senate Candidate half as interesting as Christine O'Donnell. The best we could do is Michael Steele, who got his ass handed to him by a faceless drone whose name I can't even remember.

Wait, I remember. Fucking Ben Cardin.

Maybe one day I'll get the chance to pull the lever for a kooky long shot who the MSM wants desperately to take down. As it stands, I've got some nobody or other who hasn't thrown down a single TV ad about to get fed to Jabba Mikulski's Rancor again.

Enjoy your "who's more conservative" circle-jerk slapfight, asshats.

306 It's hard to believe a DEEE-STROYED GOP could be about to take well over 50 seats in the House and actually maintain hope of regaining the Senate in less than two years.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at October 29, 2010 03:00 PM (PmZ9N)

So we have McCain to thank for all of this? Interesting theory.

307 311 -- Well since you are doing the same thing in reverse, you can hardly call them out for it, can you?

Like hell.  This is part of calling them out on it as far as I'm concerned.

308 Like hell.  This is part of calling them out on it as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Walt Gilbert at October 29, 2010 03:03 PM (PmZ9N)

So because Limbaugh insulted McCain, you are free to attack some random woman freely. And kick your dog. Gotcha.

309

Hollowpoint, there's a hell of a lot of room between "She's a complete lost cause" and "She's a long shot." They were running around acting like a horse would be more electable.

They wouldn't have been far off if they had, at least with respect to her chances in DE.

There is no moral victory in losing by 5 points instead of 10.  There's winning and losing- two outcomes, that's it.  Saying "She's a lost cause" as opposed to "She's a longshot" had a negligible effect on her chances, though some like to pretend otherwise rather than admit that they were wrong in believing she had a reasonable chance.

 

310 It's hard to believe a DEEE-STROYED GOP could be about to take well over 50 seats in the House and actually maintain hope of regaining the Senate in less than two years. Posted by: Walt Gilbert at October 29, 2010 03:00 PM The GOP is not about to win the elections next week. The TEA Party is about to win the elections next week by infiltrating a destroyed GOP and taking it back to conservatism. The old GOP -- Rove, McCain, Lindsey Grahmnesty, Collins, Snowe, etc -- is not about to win anything. They have been replaced in the primaries and new blood is taking over. Without that takeover of the GOP by the TEA Party, yes, the GOP would still be destroyed. The fact is that the GOP is simply gaining, because the nation is punishing the Democrats, not because the GOP is offering anything different... yet. The new GOP will now have a chance to prove itself between now and NOV 2012. If it continues to be the GOP of old, then it will go by the wayside and a true conservative 3rd party will emerge by 2012.

311 317  - So we have McCain to thank for all of this? Interesting theory.

You need a new timing belt.  Your synapses are misfiring.

The point is, Limbaugh stated unequivocally and repeatedly that the nomination of McCain would DEEE-STROY the Republican Party.  It didn't.  Obviously.

That in no way attributes the following electoral gains to McCain's nomination.  All it does is point out that Limbaugh was obviously wrong. 

312 Like hell. This is part of calling them out on it as far as I'm concerned. Posted by: Walt Gilbert at October 29, 2010 03:03 PM So what you're saying is you don't even live up to your own standard. Your standard is that after the primary, support the GOP candidate 100%. You claim that conservatives did not do that with McCain in 2008. So now, instead of sticking by your standard of supporting the GOP candidate in 2010, you're going to dump on the GOP candidate, simply out of spite you feel for conservatives you believe dumped on McCain in 2008. Brilliant. At least conservatives were consistently principled if they chose to not support a non-conservative candidate then and support a conservative candidate now. You, on the other hand, are just acting out of emotion. If you were consistently principled, you would be 100% behind COD now.

313 Rush just said that he got an email from Mike Allen at Politico that says they are working on a story about how the GOP leadership is talking right now about coalescing around a single candidate in order to stop Palin.

These are the same people who supported Charle Crist. Enough said.

Posted by: Dan at October 29, 2010 02:34 PM (1jzSs)

Well, I'll be.   Who could have seen that coming?

It's been obvious, for a while, what the hell was going on.    Rove is, also, a part of that machine.    The stories that Politico has put out with 'anonymous' sources within the GOP trashing Sarah that have proven to be lies...Rove running off at the mouth with his so-called reasons why she doesn't have the gravitas to be President.   

Now, when Rove got his ass slapped over his remarks about the Tea Party, he comes out and tries to walk it back...stating that he has been all over the country speaking with Tea Party groups helping them to understand how to work within the system to get things done.

They're all a bunch of back-stabbing elitist effers.   They have their own agenda.   I imagine it has a lot to do with Jeb Bush or Romney.    They can try pulling this bullshit, if they want, but it's more than likely to blow up in their face, as some of their ideas did about who they chose to run in this election.

Shit like that may have worked in the past, but it won't fly this time around.   They'll just lose more of their inside-the-beltway buttboys in '12.    Go ahead dipsticks.    Make our day. 

314 Well no,  actually McCain was just the acceptable candidate to those independents who actually wasn't, who didn't desire to win, so we lost more than  we should have

315 Ten's still too much for the wave to overcome...

We'll see. Too many people just want everyone out of office, so if the incumbent is already down, its anyone's guess but I wonder, this year.

316 321 -- The "New" GOP is still the GOP.  Not hard to figure out.

319 -- So because Limbaugh insulted McCain, you are free to attack some random woman freely. And kick your dog. Gotcha.

Good Lord, man!  I'm not "attack[ing] some random woman freely" nor kicking any dogs.  All I've done is be realistically critical of a Republican Senate candidate.  And as far as the substance of the story this thread is based on, I find it despicable and thing the dirtbag who did this to her ought to spend the rest of his life in hiding.

And, this ain't kicking the dog.  As far as I'm concerned, the people who decided that O'Donnell was the one to bet on, and that anyone who thought otherwise was a useless, disloyal RINO ought to be prepared to get her ass elected without the help of all the RINO's they so cavalierly derided.

317 323 -- At least conservatives were consistently principled if they chose to not support a non-conservative candidate then and support a conservative candidate now. You, on the other hand, are just acting out of emotion. If you were consistently principled, you would be 100% behind COD now.

Except that O'Donnell's own set of principles are clearly questionable given the fact that she's filed a sexual discrimination lawsuit against a venerable conservative organization in a fit of pique, and ran as a write-in candidate against a GOP nominee when she lost a primary.

As to whether or not that's acting on emotion, I find it quite rich to be chided for such given the fact that O'Donnell's very nomination is based solely on that very thing.  My opposition to O'Donnell was based on pure calculus, for which I was derided as supporting the lesser of two evils.

On one hand, O'Donnell's supporters seem to want this to be an emotional experience, except when it doesn't work to their benefit -- in which case, they expect everyone to line up like automatons.

318

Monty

Thanks for the link. Eliot poetry takes a bit to decipher, I think.

319 It isn't asking too much to expect the "GOP elite" not to shit on their own candidates, I think. It's as simple as that. The fact that some have highlights their priorities, and conservatism is not served.

320 Clever for Coons to come out strongly condeming Gawker.

321 330 -- And it's not too much to ask for such "non-elites" as Mark Levin to refrain from shitting on everyone who questions his decrees from his perch atop Olympia.

322 rd....I don't think it was clever at all.  He brings even more attention to it, folks who may not of known a thing about this (and in this area, entirely possible), will now go have a look.

323 Mark Levin to refrain from shitting on everyone who questions his decrees from his perch atop Olympia.

I don't think Senator Snowe appreciates the view from there.

324 Eliot poetry takes a bit to decipher, I think. It helps to have a good knowledge of the Classics, that's for sure. He pretty much assumes that his audience knows most of the great Greek and Roman classics, as well as the Bible. (When he was writing, that was the case. Now? Not so much.) Most of the symbology and metaphor he uses is Christian (or pagan Greek), but in a kind of high-church way that even most protestants miss.

325 334 -- Ha!  Nice catch!  I meant, of course, Olympus.  Guess I got a little emotional there.

326 You'd figure after Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, and Lisa Murkowski the 'pragmatist winner' faction would realize they've been wrong a whole lot  more than the 'purist' faction.

327 well, i'll tell the VAX and mathcamp stories should we have a manhattan moron meetup election night....

328

 and ran as a write-in candidate against a GOP nominee when she lost a primary.

The GOP candidate in 2006 was so uber-liberal that he decided to support Obama in 2008 instead of McCain because he thought McCain's immigration policy was too extreme!

I give here a pass for that.

329

Taking the sports metaphor further, the Rove dis was like a coach calling a press conference to announce that the second string QB, who will be starting Saturday, can't throw the ball worth shit and then breaking one of the QBs fingers on live TV. "Told ya' he couldn't throw."

"Not my fault we lost the game. He's a bad game day QB. Plus he has four other fingers on his throwing hand."

330 I've been workin' the phones hard for Christine the last three days, so STFU haterz

331 gawker's been all downhill lately so I haven't been looking at it lately. A choice vindicated I guess. COD is irritating on her own merits, though. That story is lower than low, however. I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea, because the only effect would be the opposite of the one intended.

332  I have stopped reading all Gawker sites due to this smear.  I sent an email to them, but am sure it will be used for a post mocking all those who criticize the editors and general direction their sites continually progress towards.

333 I actually stopped looking at all Gawker related sites about a year ago, I didn't like how they basically injected hate of Bush, Fox News or the Right in almost every website, including Sports, Cars, Video Games and Porn.

334 SJR2, good point.  I guess it does work both ways.

335 It's my understanding that there is a movement afoot among certain women to mail Mr. Dominiak their "trimmings" in response to his...well...disgust for the natural adult appearance of ladies' parts.

336

Rush just said that he got an email from Mike Allen at Politico that says they are working on a story about how the GOP leadership is talking right now about coalescing around a single candidate in order to stop Palin.

Well, duh.  Buncha dumbasses.  These guys want to push out Jim Demint, too. 

Along time ago when Palin resigned governorship we had a thread about what she would do.  I predicted she was going to reenact Munich the movie. She was going to hunt down those who had sabotaged her candidacy and kill them.

Now they are afraid.  Very afraid. 

She's gonna take them out. 

  

 

337 For your edification, an excerpt ...

Any Moron: Look, are you insinuating something?
Dustin: Oh...no...no... Yes.
Any Moron: Well?
Dustin: Well. I mean. Er, I mean. You're a man of the world, aren't you...I mean, er, you've er... you've been there haven't you...I mean you've been around...eh?
Any Moron: What do you mean?
Dustin: Well I mean like you've er...you've done it...I mean like, you know...you've...er...you've slept...with a lady.
Any Moron: Yes.
Dustin: What's it like?

... from the forthcoming blockbuster,  "The Life and Loves of ...

338

I made a point not to read the Gawker article.  He talked about her pubic hair?

Jeezus.

339 I wish that some of you would stop saying implying that she's already lost when THE ELECTION HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET.

We'll know the facts next Tuesday night.  She either wins or loses.  Then we can fight about who did what wrong blah blah blah.

Until then, anything you say is pure speculation.  PURE SPECULATION.

Any given Sunday...

340 Saying implying.  That's the new English.  Pardon my failure to delete.

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342  I have never read such a wonderful article and I am coming back tomorrow to continue reading.