April 01, 2010
— Ace Or at least the questions about number of persons. It's ten questions. You have that much time.
Bear in mind the numbers from the census count decide the number of Representatives for each state, and determine the apportionment of Representatives in each state, for the next ten years.
There has been a long exodus away from the Rust Belt to the Sun Belt. Every ten years, we add additional Representatives from Republican territory, and subtract an equal number from Democratic territory.
That's not going to happen if a lot of conservatives have a weird "off the grid" idea of boycotting the census.
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Should I include the dead hobos in my basement?
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 01, 2010 11:22 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: AJ Lynch at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (IDAox)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: mpfs, Capsizing as we speak at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: plumpie at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (rOd1g)
We are going to keep getting our asses kicked by the Democrats if we don't get our acts together and fill out the fucking census.
Posted by: :) at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (Mbvu0)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (z4es9)
Posted by: Census Sheriff Joe Biden at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (iYbLN)
How about just counting those of us who are being forced to pay for all this socialist shit?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (UUTHH)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: VJay at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (gQ+XA)
I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 01, 2010 11:26 AM (z4es9)
And yeah, the census commercials are an insult to everyone's intelligence. Except Hank Johnson's.
Posted by: Hatchet Five at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (Kt5vQ)
Yeah, what if we are conservatives living in a liberal area? If we don't fill out the census is it possible one of our dumb liberal congress critters will get cut?
I'm just kidding by the way, I'm going to fill out my census form. After all, now I've received a letter telling me the form was coming, the form, a postcard reminding me that I received the form, another postcard reminding me to fill out the form (and thanking me if I already did) and there are ads on my cable station with directions for filling it out, plus ads on my kid's tv channels telling him to remind me to fill it out. Not to mention all the ads in magazines.
I'm hoping if I delay a bit longer they'll send me a free coffee coupon for turning the form in.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: robtr at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (fwSHf)
How about people stop making a federal case [see what I did there!] until after the deadline has passed. Which is today I believe. You can re-post this tomorrow!
Posted by: laceyunderalls having proscrastination issues at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (pLTLS)
I listed my race as "other - American," though. That felt good.
Posted by: Kensington at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (aDdAT)
Posted by: Concerned Comment Reader at April 01, 2010 03:26 PM (iYbLN)
As a lifelong comment reader, I concur.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (UUTHH)
You might even be able to submit your numbers over the phone.
One huge problem is that illegal immigrants can and will report their numbers. Though this helps Texas and Arizona a lot, it's also going to help the cities. It's long past time that we have some kind of ID requirement for all government transactions. Voting, Census, benefits, etc.
And by all means, leave question 8 blank and answer "Other: American" to Question 9. They typically do not investigate or care once they get the number of people in your household. This year, they can't keep up with it at all.
Of course, the thugs will do the tally and lie anyway, but fill out your forms.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (RZ8pf)
My boss is half-Cherokee.
At lunch today, a Census ad came on the cafeteria television, and we talked about how neither of us have turned ours in yet.
I mentioned to him that, as I was born in Texas, that should qualify me as "Native American,"...because I was born here in America...which makes me native.
I could tell, he tried to get offended, but this sort of humor is right up his alley, and he just couldn't muster the outrage.
...it was nice working here.
Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (F26eZ)
In fact, there is ample evidence to support that the government has no right or authority to ask most of the questions on that form.
You be a good boy Ace, do what yo massa says. Can I haz juice box please?
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: robtr at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (fwSHf)
I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.
I prefer to buff mine to highly-polished gleam
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (rOd1g)
Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 11:30 AM (k/CNO)
And, yes, the hobos in the basement count, provided you haven't reduced them to bag before April 1.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:30 AM (ryXLv)
Posted by: Oracle of Mcfly at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (o5vMm)
And why is Pakastani a race, but American isn't?
Oh well, race is a fucking scam. The entire idea of it is a fucking scam, and people pointing out that they asked about race in 1790 are missing the point that they were fucking EVIL about race in 1790. Yeah, that slave master sure did care if you were white or red or black or yeller. It's wrong.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 03:30 PM (k/CNO)
I, for one, enjoy a high school dropout in a pit.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (ryXLv)
After all, we're all supposed to be post-racial, just like our President.
Posted by: David in San Diego at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (/U/Mr)
So are white people from Spain not Hispanic, here?
This is the kind of shit that is so Constitutionally critical for the government to know.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (UUTHH)
Posted by: Representative HANK! at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (F26eZ)
I just called that 800 #. This is rich.
There's a prompt on there saying if your form was lost/damaged you can call a diff't number....after Sat to get a new new.
If it's such a Joe Biden BFD, why do they direct you to a line that is not even operational until Sunday?
Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (pLTLS)
So there's actually no evidence this is an actual problem, just conjecture based on a bunch of blog comments?
Posted by: This is Tone Loc at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (bcRFr)
I get to ink it, right?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (ryXLv)
The US Constitution: honor it.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (dUOK+)
20 years ago - I didn't fill out my Census form.
Eventually, a census worker showed up at my door, asked me the questions aloud and filled it out for me.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 01, 2010 11:33 AM (muUqs)
20 years ago - I didn't fill out my Census form.
Eventually, a census worker showed up at my door, asked me the questions aloud and filled it out for me.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 03:32 PM (0fzsA) How were the fava beans?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (UUTHH)
I have a feeling the number of conservatives being negligent and silly with their Census forms is about the same as the number of social conservatives who supposedly stayed home in '06 and '08 and didn't vote.
Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (bcRFr)
Posted by: Dumb Ass From Guam at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (rvRz/)
My neighbor got mailed two forms, one to his regular address and one to his regular address (b).
Well my neighbor is an architect who built a little building on his property that contains an elaborate sauna, complete with fireplace, for his wife.
He finally figured out that apparently, whoever inspected the neighborhood in person noted the chimney and counted it as a separate residence on his property.
Posted by: Mongerel at April 01, 2010 11:35 AM (32hpL)
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (pZEar)
Ya know, if you fill out 10 census forms at your local ACORN office with the answers they write on the chalkboard, you get a free iPod™! It's an iPod Shuffle™, but it's still a freaking iPod™. No songs on it though. Which totally sucks.
Posted by: Dang at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (UA4gE)
I absolutely refused to fill out the census form.................
so the wife did it..............
Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (RZ8pf)
How were the fava beans?
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 03:34 PM (UUTHH)
That's right. I forgot to mention.-- The census worked did eat my arm.
(or I ate his arm, and liver) ah crap - I forget.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 03:36 PM (bcRFr)
I need to go on Howie Carr's show.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:37 AM (ryXLv)
I absolutely refused to fill out the census form.................
so the wife did it..............
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Mr. Y-not, is that you? I thought you said you had meetings all day today.
Posted by: Y-not at April 01, 2010 11:37 AM (Kn9r7)
I'll fill out the ten question Census, but if I get one of their American Community Surveys, they can get bent.
If you google old census forms you'll see that they've been asking the same kind of questions about ethnicity and race since forever (I looked at a couple from the 1800s).
Posted by: rockhead at April 01, 2010 11:38 AM (RykTt)
Posted by: LGoPs at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (tm/sN)
Yeah, this.
Also: Wisconsin, South Dakota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa lead states---census return rates are raaaaacist.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (mR7mk)
Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of LaRaza protest.
For real?
Meanwhile, the cheating Demunist Commiecrats keep trying to impose "statistical sampling" (i.e., faking people).
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (ujg0T)
AoSHQ -- come for the unvarnished degeneracy, stay for the public service announcements.
I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.
I prefer to buff mine to highly-polished gleam
I've allowed mine to acquire a quaint verdigris patina... Low-maintenance, and blends nicely with the rustic flair of my overall backyard motif.
Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:40 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Girl Thursday at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (vsmb3)
People using the classic nature of racism to justify modern racism need to realize it was a disgusting practice to ask about race in the 1800s, and it's still disgusting today. They want to allocate goodies to target preferred races. They want to tell which hyphen group of the day they need democrat sugar. They want to divide our people because it's been easy to control us that way for a long time.
I don't give a shit that Thomas Jefferson was cool with this. Thomas Jefferson was kinda a sleaze.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Lyford at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (9txN1)
Posted by: Fred Fry at April 01, 2010 11:42 AM (JXdhy)
Where have I been?
Did Rubio actually say that people like Olbermann "hate America" and should be traded for immigrants who love this country?
I think I'm in love....
Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010 11:42 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Lyford at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (9txN1)
There was a time when Indians didn't count toward Congressional representation, and the number of blacks was multiplied by 0.6 before delegates were apportioned. This isn't law anymore, so hell with it.
The 112th Congress needs to propose an amendment that only citizens shall be counted toward representation. Count the legal and illegal residents if you like, but don't factor them in.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (mR7mk)
They sent out recon last summer to GPS locate your house so its too late.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:45 AM (UUTHH)
"My neighbor got mailed two forms, one to his regular address and one to his regular address (b)."
He should fill both out. Submit the one to address (b) with zero inhabitants. Let The Man mull over who filled it out if there aren't any residents...
Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:45 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (8g9qq)
In fact, if you don't send it in, they usually just call your neighbor and ask them how many people live in your house. That's why they want your address and phone number.
There's a building full of people sorting through all the typos and sloppy writing, and they don't really give a shit about your race. Their boss is already overwhelmed, and you don't have to be scared. But if you are, sack up. Race divides our people, and it's good to fight.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (dUOK+)
And then make sure you educate your former Yankee/California neighbors as to how we do things here in Texas.
Because we won't tolerate your budget-bustin' ways in our prosperous, small-government state.
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (2QFX4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (9Cooa)
Filled it out...
Put down the number of people in my house...
Their names...
And RACE: Human...
Left the rest blank.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (OlHjR)
This has been my argument all along. The feds can get all of the information they claim they need by looking at birth records, death records and immigration records
The Bureau of Vital Statistics could compile the information for a helluva lot less than what they're spending on the census.
So, what they are looking for is how many illegals are in this country. Wonder why?
Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (tr6Dy)
I used the red crayon to fill out mine!! eleventy!!!1111!!!!
Please return that to my 64-box. There's now only 72 in there so I know I'm missing a few.
Posted by: Joe the BFD Biden at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (pLTLS)
Anywho, the gal at the front desk calls me up and tells me this bimbo is asking questions about who, what, where, when, how, etc., about who lives here. First I tell her, "The answer to any question the census bimbo asks is "TWO."." Then I say nevermind, I'll come up front and talk to the nosey bint myself.
As soon as I get up there, census hippie starts in with the questions..."How many people, ages, sexes, races, blahblahblah....", and to each I answer, "TWO." She says I need to answer these questions, basically, to be sure I get my cut. I told her that we are too white and too childless to get jack-shit from Uncle Sugar personally, and the area is too white and too Republican to get much from the criminal administration currently fucking over the country* and all she needs to know is, "TWO", anything else The Fed needs to know about us is already in a fucking file somewhere and will you now kindly bugger off...
I don't know why she stomped out in a huff....
(*There were a lot of folks around here that were put out of work when the Republican leaning/donating car dealerships were shut down last year when GM/ChryCo got all socialized..)
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (66CM5)
9 Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of LaRaza protest.
Horrors, the illegal aliens aren't skewing the data.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (cniXs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2010 03:47 PM (9Cooa)
Every one could use another Weiner.
Posted by: Jesse drippy dick James at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (pr+up)
Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of LaRaza protest.
For real?
Meanwhile, the cheating Demunist Commiecrats keep trying to impose
"statistical sampling" (i.e., faking people).
the treatment of hispanics on the form is pretty insane. The democrats want to decide who complains in the right way to be a race or an ethnicity or neither. Iranians are denied anything, Pakastanis are a race, hispanics are a special thingie. It's patronizing. We're all people, and this is stupid.
They are right to be pissed, but they should just write "other: hispanic" in question 9 and leave 8 blank if they really want to piss people off. It would be hilarious if that was still a major race result. though I prefer "American" as the answer.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (dUOK+)
*sigh*
No...slave states wanted to count slaves to get more representatives and "free" states didn't. A multiplier was the compromise. Free blacks were whole people.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:50 AM (mR7mk)
This year I will contribute 20k in taxes, which has taken me about 20 hours of work to do. This payment presumably will keep the government from coming to my house and hauling me off to tax evader prison. A simple scaled up flat tax would require no forms and a 2500 page tax code could find its way into the trash along with the census.
Common sense has lost it's way. We are the stupid children of nanny government. We have no say in campaign reform, no say in the ridiculous tax code, no say in the Obamacare debacle.
We are fucked just as long as you all believe we are fucked. When millions of people finally rise up, grow some balls and a spine, and are willing to go to prison to stop this insanity, then maybe we got a shot. Until then, all we got is a bunch of dissenters and hollow words and a government filled with Hank Johnson's trying to tell us how to live our lives worried that Guam will tip over and re-emerge some where near the north pole.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 11:50 AM (uFdnM)
Because we won't tolerate your budget-bustin' ways in our prosperous, small-government state.
And bring beer and wimmens, too.
Posted by: Dang Straights at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (fx8sm)
because blacks were only a fraction of a real person back then
*sigh*
No...slave states wanted to count slaves to get more representatives and "free" states didn't. A multiplier was the compromise. Free blacks were whole people
unless they were wounded in the war and lost a limb, in which case the fraction they represented was dependent on how many limbs they lost.
Posted by: Ben at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (wuv1c)
35 Whose doing the "American" thing under race question?
I did it kitteh. The only other part I filled out was the number or residents.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (cniXs)
Anyone who gave them more information is a sap.
Posted by: Ox-Eye Mike at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (KUllR)
Posted by: tmitsss at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (V4Pya)
Posted by: Doodad Pro at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (fNQUw)
Where have I been?
Did Rubio actually say
that people like Olbermann "hate America" and should be traded for
immigrants who love this country?
I think I'm in love....
Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010
03:42 PM (pLTLS)
Yes. Yes, he did. That's some sexy shit. If only he were single....and I were single. I would tear that up.
Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (MK6Kx)
Posted by: Kelly at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (iSdjV)
I had a relative send me a New York Shitty t-shirt a few years ago.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 01, 2010 11:53 AM (EL+OC)
Okay, originally I said I'd only fill out the first question. Especially if that damned LONG form came ... again. But the 10 questions I re-thunked it. But I did write "American" when asked about the race of each person in the household. Refused to give out my phone number (if they want it they have ways of getting it, no matter what the whole fukkin N.S.A. court decision was and why should I give it to them to sell to telemarketers, eh?) Just mailed it this afternoon. Hoping they figure I forgot, and have someone show up on my front porch so I can tell them to get the hell off my property.
Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 11:53 AM (GkYyh)
Anywho, the gal at the front desk calls me up and tells me this bimbo is asking questions about who, what, where, when, how, etc., about who lives here. First I tell her, "The answer to any question the census bimbo asks is "TWO."." Then I say nevermind, I'll come up front and talk to the nosey bint myself.
As soon as I get up there, census hippie starts in with the questions..."How many people, ages, sexes, races, blahblahblah....", and to each I answer, "TWO." She says I need to answer these questions, basically, to be sure I get my cut. I told her that we are too white and too childless to get jack-shit from Uncle Sugar personally, and the area is too white and too Republican to get much from the criminal administration currently fucking over the country* and all she needs to know is, "TWO", anything else The Fed needs to know about us is already in a fucking file somewhere and will you now kindly bugger off...
I don't know why she stomped out in a huff....
(*There were a lot of folks around here that were put out of work when the Republican leaning/donating car dealerships were shut down last year when GM/ChryCo got all socialized..)
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 03:49 PM (66CM5)"
You're a great American. Thanks for standing up for what I believe in. It's a shame so many republican dealership franshises were stolen for Government Motors. Anyone buying one of their cars owes me a fucking explanation, and it better be a great one.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:54 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Bosk at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (pUO5u)
Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (r1h5M)
Yeah.
The one delivered to my migrant shack was returned with 0 residents. I'm hoping by the time they deploy a goon, I'll be back home, at the address on my tax return, where I was counted.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:56 AM (mR7mk)
Q # 9, 'Other' write-in as "American". I did for both me & the dog.
Posted by: The Highland Pipes at April 01, 2010 11:56 AM (4hADy)
I used to have a "Fuck Ya'll, I'm from Texas" shirt
Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (tr6Dy)
Posted by: Shawneequa at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (2jp4I)
Posted by: oblig. at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (x7Ao8)
wow Deval Patrick actually showing some balls by finally coming on Howie Carr's show
If Devil Patrick had balls, he'd go on Jay Severin's show.
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 11:58 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 11:59 AM (e8YaH)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (uFdnM)
BRILLIANT!!
Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (66CM5)
Posted by: Your Friends at the Internal Revenue Service at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (ryXLv)
Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (k/CNO)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (UUTHH)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (qndXR)
The rest, names, phone, color, sexual preferences, positions, and stool sample are simply an invasion of privacy (though, I did give the stool sample some thought).
Posted by: TexBob at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (2jp4I)
Posted by: Andy Rand at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (mhD2v)
Posted by: evil libertarian at April 01, 2010 12:03 PM (EX8du)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 04:01 PM (uFdnM)
Japanese hookers in Medora. I'm on my way!
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (UUTHH)
Posted by: oblig. at April 01, 2010 03:57 PM (x7Ao
I know they've been asking the race question for forever, but seriously it's about time they stopped classifying us by race. And, in relation to redistricting, the state governments use the racial information to gerrymander districts. How else can you explain people like Corrine Brown being in the House. She has little pockets of real-estate in her "district" spread out over 6 or 7 Florida counties. All of which are overwhelmingly minority communities. How it is legal to pick out the minority communities from six separate counties (communities which do not overlap geographically, BTW) and make that a district, I'll never know. But I do know they get that info from the census.
Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (MK6Kx)
Plus all the threatening phone calls from the rude Census people nagging me to send the thing in.
Anybody else get one of those?
Posted by: SlaveDog at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (H6Jyg)
Posted by: Truman North
Hey, you could also be getting a nice chunk of stimulus for your neo-district, dude. Nicely played! BTW, that's a-shit-lot mo' than Harry Reid's hometown.
Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (1PeEC)
Posted by: TexBob at April 01, 2010 04:02 PM (2jp4I)
As I said before I found my great-grandparents on the 1900 census. They had birthplace, education level, language spoken at home, whether the people spoke English, whether the couple was married, occupation, year of immigration, if applicable, etc.
In other words, this problem has gray hairs. My great grandparents answered more questions than I did. Which means the gubmint doesn't want to know the answers. I find that disturbing in some way I can't articulate.
Posted by: Your Friends at the Internal Revenue Service at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (ryXLv)
Posted by: SlaveDog
at April 01, 2010 04:04 PM (H6Jyg)
Nope, and I'd give them a big FOAD if they'd contacted me about it.
Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (MK6Kx)
Posted by: Truman North
That's about an average household size here on the border.
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:07 PM (UUTHH)
Instead of checking the boxes can I just shoot holes through them with my .22?
Posted by: Ed Anger
Yes, but clearly states must be black or blue. However, I'd opt for what the troops do ... dip the ammo in bacon fat first.
Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:07 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: schneedoo at April 01, 2010 12:08 PM (f6+Gp)
Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2010 04:06 PM (1PeEC)
That's awesome!
Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:08 PM (MK6Kx)
Posted by: Penfold
LMFAO!!1!! Classic!
Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:10 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:11 PM (UUTHH)
It is better if you fill in the information rather that let someone else do it.
Also it is a great tool for genealogist.
Found my husband's family that way. I told my hubby that if it was good enough for his grandfather, great, and great great grandfather it is good enough for him. He filled it out, finally.
Posted by: missg at April 01, 2010 12:11 PM (0k5oe)
We wish.
My great grandparents answered more questions than I did.
Database technology was pretty rudimentary back then.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: schneedoo at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (f6+Gp)
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (e8YaH)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (N49h9)
The part about race, I answered as "American" for all in my family.
They don't need to know what fuckin' color I am. That shit don't mean a damn thing.
Posted by: 1idvet at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (xUxh3)
I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago. It was a lot more involved than the standard Census form.
Plus all the threatening phone calls from the rude Census people nagging me to send the thing in.
Anybody else get one of those?
Posted by: SlaveDog at April 01, 2010 04:04 PM (H6Jyg)
30 years ago our family got what was then called the long form and it was at least 25 pages. They wanted to know all sorts of crap like the square footage of the house, number of bathrooms, number of toilets, number of bedrooms, acreage, income for each resident, educational level of each resident -- and on and on. Filling it out was such a pain in the ass my parents just guessed at anything they didn't know.Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (7+pP9)
Someone said the race crap is to help assholes gerrymander. That's exactly right. That's the main reason they need this information. It's also why they left off a lot of classic questions, like education level and other stuff that helps ancestor searches in 100 years (when those poor bastards have to pay for Obamacare).
They need this census tallied in time to gerrymander more quickly. The TEA partiers are coming too quickly. They have to get this shit done. Race is basically all they want to know. Fuck them.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (dUOK+)
Years ago, knowing I wasn't going to get any anyway, I called my G/F a libtard during a conversation involving Hillary's health care overhaul. This infuriated her to the extent that she picked up the phone and promptly called the authorities.
They descended on my home where my girlfriend, beaming with delight, pointed out my stash of census forms and mattress tags. I maintained that they were planted. I would have got away with the caper but they found my semen on a census form which thus-sealed my fate. Being a quick study, and having the same G/F- I now just sleep on the couch. That's how it is for me.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (uFdnM)
The Constitution says that every inhabitant of the country except "Indians who are not taxed" must be counted. It says nothing about citizens or non-citizens. It is not limited to people living in houses. (Oh, the 3/5ths rule in the original document regarding unfree persons was an anti-slavery measure, and as the civil war approached greatly resented in the South-- read up on the Kansas Nebraska Act, Dred Scott, etc.)
The count must be carried out quickly, which is why so many people were hired and trained. Some people only work a few days--one of the better people I trained with last year had to give it up on the instructions of his doctor (We used our cars to reach the census blocks, but I had to walk a mile or two in each of the blocks that fellow would have worked in had he held out, on some of the hottest days of last spring.)
Last year we used hand held computers with GPS, sort of Blackberries that had been in development for much of the last decade, and showed it. This year I heard they had been sold to China. Given the governments proven inability tn wipe the data from its old computers, that does worry me.
Yes, if you do not send in your form, they will send an enumerator around to your house to ask you your name, sex, race, and age. You can decline to give your race (I mailed in "American.") however the law is clear and you cannot refuse to be counted, even if you are anonymous.
None of the information may be released for 72 years, except for statistical purposes, and then it goes to the National Archives. Anyone who releases such info will (er, can) go to jail for five years and be fined $250,000.
Now, as to the people conducting the census. None of the people I worked with were high school drop outs. Last year my crew leader was a business woman suffering from the Obama economy. This year my crew leader is a Korean War vet and ex-Marine (most of the men had been in the Army or Marines and were retirees.) My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)
Oh yes, the federal census is different from the municipal census forms sent around once a year here in MA--if you don't send the municipal form in you get tossed from the voter roles.
Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (4DyrA)
Sellout! Statist!
Posted by: FUBAR at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (1fanL)
Everything on that form is already in a DoD or VA computer mated up to my name. They have my DNA, fingerprints, a security clearance background investigation that lists my next door neighbors from junior high, and probably know more about the women I've slept with than I do.
Getting pissy with the government over minor privacy issues after a career spent in the military is a total waste of time. I still have duffle bags with my full SSN stenciled on them.
Posted by: SGT Dan at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (GgXZc)
I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago. Anybody else get one of those?
Yep. And I filled out the number of folks living at the address and returned it. By the time all the fuss and flap was over with, there were damn near three census workers buried in shallow graves out in west Texas somewhere.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (pZEar)
You can't obey the law and fill out the census before today. Thus its weird any were turned in at all yet.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 01, 2010 12:19 PM (PQY7w)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 03:29 PM (0fzsA)
That would be me, for one. I gave them the number of people in my household, and listed our races as "other: American". Far as I'm concerned, I've done my part.
Posted by: antisocialist at April 01, 2010 12:21 PM (Rwudm)
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2010 12:21 PM (8/NZJ)
They have my DNA, fingerprints, a security clearance background investigation that lists my next door neighbors from junior high, and probably know more about the women I've slept with than I do.
Usually, the less you know about them, the better it was.
Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 12:22 PM (e8YaH)
My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)
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Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)
Two words: Cultural Resources ManagementDid it for a decade.
And who offers an archaeology degree? It's a subdivision of anthropology.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:23 PM (7+pP9)
Illegals are not taxed, as they cannot have legitimate social security numbers. I don't get your point.
None of the information may be released for 72 years, except for statistical purposes, and then it goes to the National Archives. Anyone who releases such info will (er, can) go to jail for five years and be fined $250,000.
Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)
LOL. Whatever happened to all those government workers in Ohio who released every detail for Joe The Plumber that they could criminally get their hands on? Nothing, really. What happened to those who benefitted from the illegal and obscene disclosures? Nothing.
No one trusts this federal government to hold anything private, for good reason.
Also, what stops an illegal from claiming that 35 people are living in the house? Nothing. They're illegals. They have no papers to prove anything.
This census is nothing but a total joke that will have the integrity of Al Gore's homework and Joe Biden's personal quotations.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:24 PM (N49h9)
As has been pointed out implicitly, above, by this reasoning guys like me should actually do the boycott thing.
But the real reason to do it is to fullfil the requirements of the Constitution, and nobody in here should have a problem with that. If you want to get all huffy about some of the questions, go ahead and get cute on them. All that will probably do for you is get you a call from some poor slob who's stuck doing the census, or just make you look like an ignoramus (or wise guy) to any descendants you might have, when they look it up 72 years from now. No biggie.
The focus on hispanics and race is pretty bizarre, but it's short, and no big deal.
On a side note, though, I think it's funny how they have that uppity, technical, "hispanic is not a race" lecture on the form, and then in the commercials (which just confuse things in general) they use the term "latino" instead.
Posted by: Optimizer at April 01, 2010 12:24 PM (odEHq)
Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2010 12:25 PM (e8T35)
I got one. I filled it out and then we moved.
They won't count it anyway, there's only 3 of us and we're all white.
Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 12:26 PM (tr6Dy)
Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2010 04:21 PM (8/NZJ)
No problem. That would just be one more crime they are committing. This question would certainly help stop illegals from even thinking of filling out the census, though, and might even entice them to leave, as they think the government would be onto them for not returning the form. It's a win-win-win, and it is information that the federal government actually needs, as opposed to race and hispanicity.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:27 PM (N49h9)
"Database technology was pretty rudimentary back then."
It's true. You couldn't do that sweet click-n-drag to auto-populate the cells back then.
Man, Lotus 1-2-3 was such a bitch.
Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 12:27 PM (q/kmn)
Posted by: Libsareb Raindead at April 01, 2010 12:28 PM (lYU4D)
I doubt very much that they will give a shit about where I slept on the night of April 1, 2010.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 12:28 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2010 12:29 PM (gLSaO)
Hispanic isn't a race. Technically, they're Caucasian.
I used to submit background checks for the State and the forms had two choices, white or black. You'd be surprised how many people wrote in Hispanic.
Of course, this is also the same time period I had this discussion with a co-worker:
I'm not white, I'm Mexican.
Really, what part of Mexico were you born in?
Aw, man, I was born in Oklahoma.
Oh, then you're an American, not a Mexican.
Que?
Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 12:30 PM (tr6Dy)
166 I am not sending my name because I worked for the census last year and this year.
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My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)
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Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)
Okay -- After thinking about a bit I figured it out.Whoda thunk Mrs. C. Was a fellow moron?
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:31 PM (7+pP9)
Posted by: About to be Harrassed by Jackbooted Census Thugs at April 01, 2010 12:31 PM (BD2Ek)
Mine was easy, My wife and I are Caucasians, so '2' in that box,and our peach-faced lovebird is African-American, so '1' there. What's all the damn fuss? He even pooped on it to prove he's in the household!
/s
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 01, 2010 12:32 PM (ERJIu)
Were you a fucking coward, who cares which hyphen-American group you are supposed to part of? Or did you go ahead and fulfill your obligation to the census without dividing our people into interest groups?
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:33 PM (dUOK+)
@164
It seemed like they were up to something, with the exclusive focus on hispanics (read that "illegal aliens") and race. This is the first plausible explanation I've heard - it really makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: Optimizer at April 01, 2010 12:35 PM (odEHq)
Please return that to my 64-box. There's now only 72 in there so I know I'm missing a few.
Posted by: Joe the BFD Biden
check your nose; or Waxman's
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 12:38 PM (8g9qq)
Posted by: Jean at April 01, 2010 12:39 PM (vb5IK)
After all, it's not like we're being represented anyway.
I somehow suspect that Pelosi would find an appropriate goon squad to come count us.
Posted by: mrkwong at April 01, 2010 12:42 PM (G8Eo0)
Posted by: AJ Lynch
Same here. Didn't bother. If you are in a red or purple state, more power to you.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 01, 2010 12:46 PM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:48 PM (uFdnM)
That's not going to happen if a lot of conservatives have a weird "off the grid" idea of boycotting the census.
I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form?
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 01, 2010 12:54 PM (Q75cY)
I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form? Dammit, Blaque Jaques, you beat me to the punch line!
Posted by: FatBaldnSassy at April 01, 2010 12:57 PM (Lq9ag)
Hispanic isn't a race. Technically, they're Caucasian.
I used to submit background checks for the State and the forms had two choices, white or black. You'd be surprised how many people wrote in Hispanic.
Of course, this is also the same time period I had this discussion with a co-worker:
I'm not white, I'm Mexican.
Really, what part of Mexico were you born in?
Aw, man, I was born in Oklahoma.
Oh, then you're an American, not a Mexican.
Que?
Posted by: mpur in Texas"
According the the Census, Pakistani is a race. You can't say Mexican isn't a race just because people generally divide into white. All racial categories are pretty stupid and artificial.
Pakistani is just as white as Mexican, anyway. Hell, African Americans are about as genetically European as Mexicans are.
This is about knowing who the democrats are, to gerrymander. Race isn't real. It would be more honest to just ask if you're a democrat.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:57 PM (dUOK+)
I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form?
Yes. If Californians all fill out census forms truthfully, it is my understanding that California will sink under the burden of all those folks, thus elevating the eastern seaboard to a height of 12,000 feet. People will be catapulted off Virginia Beach directly into the Pacific Ocean. Think before you sink.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 01:02 PM (uFdnM)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2010 01:15 PM (u+gbs)
Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at April 01, 2010 01:18 PM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Ella at April 01, 2010 01:20 PM (RqARV)
Again, Ace doesn't understand how the world works.
Yes, and since I'm a conservative in Massachusetts, I don't want to participate in the census. Because all that does is get more Democrat Congressmen elected, since the Democrat Party in Massachusetts is corrupt.
If you live in a Red State ... complete your census.
If you live with a bunch of retarded fucking moron liberals, do not fill out the census and encourage all your friends' conspiracy theories about why he shouldn't fill out the census either.
That's the Chicago Way.
Posted by: smarterguy at April 01, 2010 01:34 PM (VRJIW)
Posted by: brak at April 01, 2010 01:37 PM (W5NBA)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2010 01:40 PM (P33XN)
Cool he now knows how to write AMERICAN.
Posted by: troublemaker at April 01, 2010 01:44 PM (g2qqp)
Posted by: Pitchfork Pete at April 01, 2010 02:15 PM (90oki)
Will one of you morons be a sweetie and make me a cocktail? I've been spring cleaning all day (after dreaming about cleaning last night). Thanks!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 01, 2010 02:24 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: erp at April 01, 2010 02:26 PM (RzTM+)
Again, Ace doesn't understand how the world works.
Yes, and since I'm a conservative in Massachusetts, I don't want to participate in the census. Because all that does is get more Democrat Congressmen elected, since the Democrat Party in Massachusetts is corrupt.
If you live in a Red State ... complete your census.
If you live with a bunch of retarded fucking moron liberals, do not fill out the census and encourage all your friends' conspiracy theories about why he shouldn't fill out the census either.
That's the Chicago Way.
Posted by: smarterguy"
You're a traitor. I can tell you never served in the military, because you refuse to honor the US Constitution. Just do your duty, you fucking asshole.
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 02:32 PM (dUOK+)
My husband filled it out and wrote in "human."
Posted by: Annalucia at April 01, 2010 02:39 PM (vVp8s)
But I'll make you a deal. When the dick-nuggets in DC decide to adhere to the Constitution, I will too.Until then, fuck them and fuck the census.
Posted by: the flaming dildo at April 01, 2010 02:41 PM (pOOCt)
According the the Census, Pakistani is a race. You can't say Mexican isn't a race just because people generally divide into white. All racial categories are pretty stupid and artificial.
Pakistani is just as white as Mexican, anyway. Hell, African Americans are about as genetically European as Mexicans are.
This is about knowing who the democrats are, to gerrymander. Race isn't real. It would be more honest to just ask if you're a democrat.
Mexican, Pakistani, Irish, German.....those are nationalities.
Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 02:53 PM (tr6Dy)
Posted by: rawmuse at April 01, 2010 02:54 PM (AMis9)
Posted by: Joey Biden, from Scranton at April 01, 2010 02:58 PM (Infzd)
That is OUR cash, people.
I am perfectly capable of pissing away my own money: Give it Back!
Posted by: TXMarko at April 01, 2010 03:02 PM (zYx/c)
I already sent in one, filled out.
What should I do with this one?
Should I expect a dynamic entry from one of the Gub'mint Death Squads SWAT teams anytime soon?
Posted by: TXMarko at April 01, 2010 03:04 PM (zYx/c)
I did. That's why mine went into the trash, asswipe.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 03:19 PM (uFdnM)
It just makes no Census, I tell ya.
It's just racist. Why do they need to know our race?
Ages ok, so they know what type of impact the school system will have. But race? com'on already, I thought we were past that.
Posted by: Say What? at April 01, 2010 03:32 PM (vwh8M)
He should fill both out. Submit the one to address (b) with zero inhabitants. Let The Man mull over who filled it out if there aren't any residents...
Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 03:45 PM (F26eZ)
Thread winner.
Posted by: RushBabe at April 01, 2010 03:36 PM (LKkE8)
I filled out mine the day I received it--just haven't mailed it.* Ace never said anything about mailing it.
*yet
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 01, 2010 03:52 PM (yfJ6g)
https:// genographic. nationalgeographic .com/ genographic/ journey. html
Put that up your race.
Posted by: Say What? at April 01, 2010 04:02 PM (vwh8M)
I answered questions 1, 2 and 10 since they dealt with enumeration (and I found a case where someone was fined per question).
I will be quite comfortable, confident, and happy to argue (if I have to) that answering any of the other questions would have in fact been unconstitutional. After I point out that I did not complete the form prior to April 1st in spite of the Census Bureau's instructions and encouragement (nagging) to illegally do just that.
Posted by: BA at April 01, 2010 04:12 PM (GkYyh)
Then they can sequence my genome, and do hyperdimensional clustering analysis to put me in one of the hierarchical groups discovered from genome databases.
I've got guesses but they aren't scientific, as far as I know they are just the result of false assumptions and prejudices. Better safe than sorry.
Posted by: onceastoner at April 01, 2010 04:36 PM (9vsSX)
Posted by: timothyJ at April 01, 2010 05:06 PM (IKKIf)
i hope neanderthal is ok for race, cuz i really dont know.
for #living there i took the rootmeansquare of the whole year(more in summer with vagrants, drunks and stoners) and came up with 132.
Posted by: wetback at April 01, 2010 05:22 PM (VZAZB)
Posted by: 88Cid at April 01, 2010 05:22 PM (yM/qQ)
I do wonder why they even need me to fill it out as they might simply 'google' me for the same information.
Where I do have an issue is that it appears that folks in Chicago are receiving multiple forms. I received two. My neighbors have received a range of 3 to 7 forms a piece. That. Can. Not, Be Good.
Posted by: flodigarry at April 01, 2010 05:44 PM (NOXHf)
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Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 07:19 PM (uFdnM)"
You did your duty before the US Constitution to throw your census in the garbage? The constitution requires the people be enumerated. Your duty is to tell the Man how many people are in your house.
You think you're a badass for fucking with our country. You're just like the scumbags in ACORN. Everything is about political party. There is no honor. Oh well, the Census will call your neighbors and they will say you live with your parents and everything will be OK. I don't mind refusing to answer anything but the enumeration, but if you don't agree with the constitution, get it changed. We all agree to live in this society, benefit from the domestic tranquility, and this isn't a big fucking burden to obey some easy law like '3 people live here".
Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 07:11 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: moi at April 01, 2010 07:18 PM (Ez4Ql)
I don't boycott the census...I already sent mine in.
It has three pieces of information on it: my name, how many people live in my house, and my "race," which I marked as "human."
Posted by: Picky at April 01, 2010 07:46 PM (H5kz4)
Anyone remember the Christopher Walken SNL sketch about the census?
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at April 01, 2010 08:10 PM (IM1cF)
Posted by: BMAc at April 01, 2010 08:16 PM (XtiN0)
Posted by: Max Entropy at April 01, 2010 08:40 PM (OdTRB)
Posted by: GamerFromJump at April 01, 2010 08:59 PM (LYdrC)
Article 1, Section 2: "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."
The government actually fulfilling a Constitutional responsibility. Shocka, I know.
Posted by: GamerFromJump at April 01, 2010 09:07 PM (LYdrC)
Well the whole idea of "race" is a social construct anyway. The biological concept of race is any taxonomic group that is capable of breeding. All dogs are of the canine "race," for instance.
Since we know that all humans are capable of breeding with all other humans, then the idea of different "races" among humans is not valid. There is only one race, the human race.
Here's another example: what does Tiger Woods put down as his "race?" I saw that supposedly his ethnicity is made up of 1/4 African American, 1/4 Thai, 1/4 Chinese, 1/8 Native American and 1/8 Dutch.
Or, how about our Dear Leader who we know is the "first black President" when his mother was as white as anybody.
Posted by: Picky at April 01, 2010 09:19 PM (H5kz4)
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Posted by: Mark in Texas at April 02, 2010 05:01 AM (ZJeca)
Posted by: two words at April 02, 2010 06:25 AM (QxGmu)
If you steal representation from your state, that's very similar to ACORN vote fraud. It's not a gift for your state to be represented a certain way in the House. This is our country.
Let's not cheat when it comes to elections, votes, representation, etc, with dirty tricks like fucking up the census. Let's punish people who do that.
You know damn well that if you learned that ACORN did something like this, it would totally piss you off.
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