April 01, 2010

Hey, Seriously -- Fill Out the Census
— Ace

Or at least the questions about number of persons. It's ten questions. You have that much time.

Bear in mind the numbers from the census count decide the number of Representatives for each state, and determine the apportionment of Representatives in each state, for the next ten years.

There has been a long exodus away from the Rust Belt to the Sun Belt. Every ten years, we add additional Representatives from Republican territory, and subtract an equal number from Democratic territory.

That's not going to happen if a lot of conservatives have a weird "off the grid" idea of boycotting the census.

Posted by: Ace at 11:19 AM | Comments (249)
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1 I hear Joe Biden says filling out the census is a "Big #$%#% deal."

Posted by: Thomas at April 01, 2010 11:21 AM (/e8ix)

2
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Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 11:22 AM (bcRFr)

3

Should I include the dead hobos in my basement?

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 01, 2010 11:22 AM (v3pYe)

4 Welcome to the Bible Belt, ya'll.

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 11:22 AM (tr6Dy)

5 But Ace, I live in Massachusetts.

Posted by: Andy at April 01, 2010 11:22 AM (Q7FMI)

6 What if you you are a conservative in a Blue state? I say don't send it in.

Posted by: AJ Lynch at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (IDAox)

7 Returning the census will prevent your district from floating away.

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (pUfK9)

8 Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of  LaRaza protest.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (EL+OC)

9 Upon you instructions Ace I shall put my ass print on the census form tout de suite.

Posted by: mpfs, Capsizing as we speak at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (iYbLN)

10 Listen, you dumb motherfuckers, filling in the census is punching down.

Posted by: plumpie at April 01, 2010 11:23 AM (rOd1g)

11 Fucking amateurs, how do you expect to get your god damn fair share if you don't fill out the census?

We are going to keep getting our asses kicked by the Democrats if we don't get our acts together and fill out the fucking census.

Posted by: :) at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (Mbvu0)

12 I don't have a problem with the census in general. What's bugging me right now is the way it's being advertised. "Fill out the census so your community will get enough nipples at the government teat."

Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (z4es9)

13 Census??!?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (4y0YU)

14
But, yeah, seriously, though...

That's what happens when bodies start slappin'.

Posted by: This is Tone Loc at April 01, 2010 11:24 AM (bcRFr)

15 It's a Big Fucking Census I tell ya.

Posted by: Census Sheriff Joe Biden at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (iYbLN)

16

How about just counting those of us who are being forced to pay for all this socialist shit?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (UUTHH)

17 Also, filling out the census will help the environment of your district.

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (pUfK9)

18 AoSHQ -- come for the unvarnished degeneracy, stay for the public service announcements.

Posted by: VJay at April 01, 2010 11:25 AM (gQ+XA)

19 There is just so much filth in the comments....

Posted by: Concerned Comment Reader at April 01, 2010 11:26 AM (iYbLN)

20 AoSHQ -- come for the unvarnished degeneracy, stay for the public service announcements.

I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 01, 2010 11:26 AM (z4es9)

21 Filled out and sent in.  But I sure as heck am not giving them my phone number...
And yeah, the census commercials are an insult to everyone's intelligence.  Except Hank Johnson's.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (Kt5vQ)

22

Yeah, what if we are conservatives living in a liberal area? If we don't fill out the census is it possible one of our dumb liberal congress critters will get cut?

I'm just kidding by the way, I'm going to fill out my census form. After all, now I've received a letter telling me the form was coming, the form, a postcard reminding me that I received the form, another postcard reminding me to fill out the form (and thanking me if I already did) and there are ads on my cable station with directions for filling it out, plus ads on my kid's tv channels telling him to remind me to fill it out. Not to mention all the ads in magazines.

I'm hoping if I delay a bit longer they'll send me a free coffee coupon for turning the form in.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (RZ8pf)

23 With all those people moving to the south do you think we could tip over and capcize?

Posted by: robtr at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (fwSHf)

24
Yep.

And it's not as if big daddy government doesn't know everything about everybody anyway. 


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (0fzsA)

25

How about people stop making a federal case [see what I did there!] until after the deadline has passed. Which is today I believe. You can re-post this tomorrow!

Posted by: laceyunderalls having proscrastination issues at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (pLTLS)

26 Yeah, I filled out mine today.  I was annoyed that they wanted my name, though.

I listed my race as "other - American," though.  That felt good.

Posted by: Kensington at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (aDdAT)

27
I always assume that that is the setup for a joke.

ahhh, cute.

See what Toby did there?

Posted by: This is Tone Loc at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (bcRFr)

28 21 There is just so much filth in the comments....

Posted by: Concerned Comment Reader at April 01, 2010 03:26 PM (iYbLN)

As a lifelong comment reader, I concur.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:27 AM (UUTHH)

29 If you haven't received a Census form, which some red staters are reporting, Call the Census at 800-923-8282.

You might even be able to submit your numbers over the phone.

One huge problem is that illegal immigrants can and will report their numbers.  Though this helps Texas and Arizona a lot, it's also going to help the cities.  It's long past time that we have some kind of ID requirement for all government transactions.  Voting, Census, benefits, etc.

And by all means, leave question 8 blank and answer "Other: American" to Question 9.  They typically do not investigate or care once they get the number of people in your household.  This year, they can't keep up with it at all.

Of course, the thugs will do the tally and lie anyway, but fill out your forms.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (dUOK+)

30 Wait, there's a deadline? Oh, I did not know that.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (RZ8pf)

31

My boss is half-Cherokee.

At lunch today, a Census ad came on the cafeteria television, and we talked about how neither of us have turned ours in yet.

I mentioned to him that, as I was born in Texas, that should qualify me as "Native American,"...because I was born here in America...which makes me native.

I could tell, he tried to get offended, but this sort of humor is right up his alley, and he just couldn't muster the outrage.

 

...it was nice working here.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (F26eZ)

32 It was an act of civil disobedience-lining my trash can with the census form.

In fact, there is ample evidence to support that the government has no right or authority to ask most of the questions on that form.

You be a good boy Ace, do what yo massa says. Can I haz juice box please?

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (uFdnM)

33 I am curious.  Whose doing the "American" thing under race question?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (0fzsA)

34
Wait.

This is not a joke?

Posted by: This is Tone Loc at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (bcRFr)

35 I listed my race as caucasian, I know racist but fuck it.

Posted by: robtr at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (fwSHf)

36 Should I include the dead hobos in my basement?

No, only the ones you are saving for a rainy day.

Posted by: ix-nay at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (S/hBA)

37 AoSHQ -- come for the unvarnished degeneracy, stay for the public service announcements.

I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.

I prefer to buff mine to highly-polished gleam

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 01, 2010 11:29 AM (rOd1g)

38 I've heard if you don't, they send a census worker to your house anyway, and who needs a high school drop out loitering about anyway?

Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 11:30 AM (k/CNO)

39 Seriously, the questions are about as invasive as the ones asked my great grandparents in the 1900 census.  I found it during geneology research.  I was pleasantly surprised by this year's census form.

And, yes, the hobos in the basement count, provided you haven't reduced them to bag before April 1.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:30 AM (ryXLv)

40

"Fill out the census so your community will get enough nipples--"

I'm in.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:30 AM (F26eZ)

41 So I pay taxes, have a SS number, an address, mortgage, fishing license, etc.  But I don't "exist" unless I fill out a scrap of paper from the feds. every 10 years?

Posted by: Oracle of Mcfly at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (o5vMm)

42 @35 Lemon, I did it.

Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (k/CNO)

43 And can someone explain to me how Mexicans aren't considered Native Americans?  They are Aztecs.  That's why they look like Spaniards and Indians bred together.  They are.

And why is Pakastani a race, but American isn't?

Oh well, race is a fucking scam.  The entire idea of it is a fucking scam, and people pointing out that they asked about race in 1790 are missing the point that they were fucking EVIL about race in 1790.  Yeah, that slave master sure did care if you were white or red or black or yeller.  It's wrong.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (dUOK+)

44 I've heard if you don't, they send a census worker to your house anyway, and who needs a high school drop out loitering about anyway?

Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 03:30 PM (k/CNO)

I, for one, enjoy a high school dropout in a pit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (ryXLv)

45 Don't forget to note your race as Other, specifically American.

After all, we're all supposed to be post-racial, just like our President.

Posted by: David in San Diego at April 01, 2010 11:31 AM (/U/Mr)

46

So are white people from Spain not Hispanic, here?

This is the kind of shit that is so Constitutionally critical for the government to know.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (UUTHH)

47 Wait, just so I'm clear on this, the census, it's only...like....11" at it's least widest point on the page, right?

Posted by: Representative HANK! at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (F26eZ)

48

I just called that 800 #. This is rich.

There's a prompt on there saying if your form was lost/damaged you can call a diff't number....after Sat to get a new new.

If it's such a Joe Biden BFD, why do they direct you to a line that is not even operational until Sunday?

Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (pLTLS)

49
So there's actually no evidence this is an actual problem, just conjecture based on a bunch of blog comments?


Posted by: This is Tone Loc at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (bcRFr)

50 Upon you instructions Ace I shall put my ass print on the census form tout de suite.

I get to ink it, right?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (ryXLv)

51 Lunatic Fringe, call the census and tell them how many people are in your house, and tell them you refuse to answer their other questions.  Stand up for yourself instead of passive aggressive lazy civil disobedience.

The US Constitution: honor it. 

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (dUOK+)

52
20 years ago - I didn't fill out my Census form. 
Eventually, a census worker showed up at my door, asked me the questions aloud and filled it out for me.




Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (0fzsA)

53 Don't forget to note your race as Other, specifically American.

Coward!

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 01, 2010 11:32 AM (rOd1g)

54

Hey, Seriously

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Posted by: Representative HANK! at April 01, 2010 11:33 AM (F26eZ)

55 If you live in a red state, add a couple extra kids, or future citizens, for good measure.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 01, 2010 11:33 AM (muUqs)

56 54
20 years ago - I didn't fill out my Census form. 
Eventually, a census worker showed up at my door, asked me the questions aloud and filled it out for me.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 03:32 PM (0fzsA)   How were the fava beans?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (UUTHH)

57
I have a feeling the number of conservatives being negligent and silly with their Census forms is about the same as the number of social conservatives who supposedly stayed home in '06 and '08 and didn't vote.

Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (bcRFr)

58 If the census workers come here the island tip over and we all be clinging to the edge while sharks nibble at our toes.

Posted by: Dumb Ass From Guam at April 01, 2010 11:34 AM (rvRz/)

59 True story:

My neighbor got mailed two forms, one to his regular address and one to his regular address (b).

Well my neighbor is an architect who built a little building on his property that contains an elaborate sauna, complete with fireplace, for his wife.

He finally figured out that apparently, whoever inspected the neighborhood in person noted the chimney and counted it as a separate residence on his property.

Posted by: Mongerel at April 01, 2010 11:35 AM (32hpL)

60
wow Deval Patrick actually showing some balls by finally coming on Howie Carr's show

Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (bcRFr)

61 Meh.  I'll fill out the number of folks, begrudgingly, and send it in at the last possible moment.  I learned from the summer 'census' that throwing that crap in the garbage is much, much less of a hassle than filling out the thing partially, since sending in a partial just draws attention to yourself.  As for the other 9 questions, they can go screw themselves sideways with a sandpaper chainsaw.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (pZEar)

62
Ya know, if you fill out 10 census forms at your local ACORN office with the answers they write on the chalkboard,  you get a free iPod™!  It's an iPod Shuffle™,  but it's still a freaking iPod™.  No songs on it though.  Which totally sucks.

Posted by: Dang at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (UA4gE)

63

I absolutely refused to fill out the census form.................

so the wife did it..............

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (OlN4e)

64 Hey seriously, there's a deadline? And it is April Fools Day?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (RZ8pf)

65
How were the fava beans?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 03:34 PM (UUTHH)


That's right. I forgot to mention.--  The census worked did eat my arm.  

(or I ate his arm, and liver) ah crap -  I forget.




Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 11:36 AM (0fzsA)

66 wow Deval Patrick actually showing some balls by finally coming on Howie Carr's show

Posted by: This is The Tickle Czar at April 01, 2010 03:36 PM (bcRFr)

I need to go on Howie Carr's show.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:37 AM (ryXLv)

67

I absolutely refused to fill out the census form.................

so the wife did it..............

------

Mr. Y-not, is that you?  I thought you said you had meetings all day today. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 01, 2010 11:37 AM (Kn9r7)

68

I'll fill out the ten question Census, but if I get one of their American Community Surveys, they can get bent.

If you google old census forms you'll see that they've been asking the same kind of questions about ethnicity and race since forever (I looked at a couple from the 1800s).

Posted by: rockhead at April 01, 2010 11:38 AM (RykTt)

69
Census Ruined by Global Warming and Conservatives, But Mostly Conservatives

Posted by: This is Ed Morrissey at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (bcRFr)

70 I filled it out and honestly didn't find anything intrusive. On the race part I did write in American. And the only people that could possibly object to that would be race hustlers. And they can fuck themselves. I'm talking to you....Democrats.

Posted by: LGoPs at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (tm/sN)

71 I don't have a problem with the census in general. What's bugging me right now is the way it's being advertised. "Fill out the census so your community will get enough nipples at the government teat."

Yeah, this.

Also: Wisconsin, South Dakota, Nebraska, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa lead states---census return rates are raaaaacist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (mR7mk)

72

Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of  LaRaza protest.

For real?

Meanwhile, the cheating Demunist Commiecrats keep trying to impose "statistical sampling" (i.e., faking people).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 01, 2010 11:39 AM (ujg0T)

73 Herr,
How are you feeling today?

Posted by: Concerned Comment Reader at April 01, 2010 11:40 AM (iYbLN)

74 Off sockpuppet off

Posted by: mpfs at April 01, 2010 11:40 AM (iYbLN)

75

AoSHQ -- come for the unvarnished degeneracy, stay for the public service announcements.

I resent that. My degeneracy is VERY varnished.

I prefer to buff mine to highly-polished gleam

I've allowed mine to acquire a quaint verdigris patina...  Low-maintenance, and blends nicely with the rustic flair of my overall backyard motif.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:40 AM (F26eZ)

76 I hate it when conservatives start convincing other conservatives to wuss out.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (vsmb3)

77 Do I claim my ahem, goat as a resident?

Posted by: Texas Oyster at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (EL+OC)

78 They were asking about race back in the day because blacks were only a fraction of a real person back then, under the US Constitution.

People using the classic nature of racism to justify modern racism need to realize it was a disgusting practice to ask about race in the 1800s, and it's still disgusting today.  They want to allocate goodies to target preferred races.  They want to tell which hyphen group of the day they need democrat sugar.  They want to divide our people because it's been easy to control us that way for a long time.

I don't give a shit that Thomas Jefferson was cool with this.  Thomas Jefferson was kinda a sleaze.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (dUOK+)

79

I, for one, enjoy a high school dropout in a pit.

 

it rubs the lotion on it's skin

Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (+1CFO)

80 I live in Massachusetts.  I want my state to <a href="http://lyflines.blogspot.com/2010/03/civil-disobedience-2010.html">lose representation</a>...

Posted by: Lyford at April 01, 2010 11:41 AM (9txN1)

81 Filled mine out today and added 3 more 'Americans' to the tally (and one Finn.)

Posted by: Fred Fry at April 01, 2010 11:42 AM (JXdhy)

82

Where have I been?

Did Rubio actually say that people like Olbermann "hate America" and should be traded for immigrants who love this country?

I think I'm in love....

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010 11:42 AM (pLTLS)

83 I live in Massachusetts.  I want my state to lose representation

Posted by: Lyford at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (9txN1)

84 the same kind of questions about ethnicity and race since forever

There was a time when Indians didn't count toward Congressional representation, and the number of blacks was multiplied by 0.6 before delegates were apportioned.  This isn't law anymore, so hell with it.

The 112th Congress needs to propose an amendment that only citizens shall be counted toward representation.  Count the legal and illegal residents if you like, but don't factor them in. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (mR7mk)

85 Word.  The last person I want finding my weed patch.

They sent out recon last summer to GPS locate your house so its too late.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (tf9Ne)

86 Herr,
How are you feeling today?

Have you ever been shit out?
You're lucky.
Thanks for your concern.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 11:43 AM (ryXLv)

87 Cherokee??

Posted by: CHER at April 01, 2010 11:45 AM (pr+up)

88 My pet spider monkey got tired of jerking off in his cage, so he filled out the census and got hired by Peter Orzsag. 

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 11:45 AM (UUTHH)

89

"My neighbor got mailed two forms, one to his regular address and one to his regular address (b)."

He should fill both out.  Submit the one to address (b) with zero inhabitants.  Let The Man mull over who filled it out if there aren't any residents...

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 11:45 AM (F26eZ)

90 I used the red crayon to fill out mine!! eleventy!!!1111!!!!

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (8g9qq)

91 If you skip questions, but include the quantity of people, it's Census policy to leave you alone. 

In fact, if you don't send it in, they usually just call your neighbor and ask them how many people live in your house.  That's why they want your address and phone number.

There's a building full of people sorting through all the typos and sloppy writing, and they don't really give a shit about your race.  Their boss is already overwhelmed, and you don't have to be scared.  But if you are, sack up.  Race divides our people, and it's good to fight.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (dUOK+)

92

And then make sure you educate your former Yankee/California neighbors as to how we do things here in Texas.

Because we won't tolerate your budget-bustin' ways in our prosperous, small-government state.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (2QFX4)

93 I live in New York FUCKING City (as the t-shirt says). I do not need another Chuck Schumer, Gerald Nadler, Anthony Weiner or Gary Ackerman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2010 11:47 AM (9Cooa)

94

Filled it out...

Put down the number of people in my house...

Their names...

And RACE: Human...

 

Left the rest blank.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (OlHjR)

95 o I pay taxes, have a SS number, an address, mortgage, fishing license, etc.  But I don't "exist" unless I fill out a scrap of paper from the feds. every 10 years?

This has been my argument all along. The feds can get all of the information they claim they need by looking at birth records, death records and immigration records

The Bureau of Vital Statistics could compile the information for a helluva lot less than what they're spending on the census.

So, what they are looking for is how many illegals are in this country. Wonder why?

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (tr6Dy)

96

 I used the red crayon to fill out mine!! eleventy!!!1111!!!!

Please return that to my 64-box. There's now only 72 in there so I know I'm missing a few.

Posted by: Joe the BFD Biden at April 01, 2010 11:48 AM (pLTLS)

97 I had some census hippie broad come by last week to fill out a "transitory resident" or some such form.  (The Ol' Lady manages two motels and we live in the Managers Residence of one of them for 5 years now...  I guess that makes us "transitory"...)

Anywho, the gal at the front desk calls me up and tells me this bimbo is asking questions about who, what, where, when, how, etc., about who lives here.  First I tell her, "The answer to any question the census bimbo asks is "TWO."."  Then I say nevermind, I'll come up front and talk to the nosey bint myself.

As soon as I get up there, census hippie starts in with the questions..."How many people, ages, sexes, races, blahblahblah....", and to each I answer, "TWO."  She says I need to answer these questions, basically, to be sure I get my cut.  I told her that we are too white and too childless to get jack-shit from Uncle Sugar personally, and the area is too white and too Republican to get much from the criminal administration currently fucking over the country* and all she needs to know is, "TWO", anything else The Fed needs to know about us is already in a fucking file somewhere and will you now kindly bugger off...

I don't know why she stomped out in a huff....

(*There were a lot of folks around here that were put out of work when the Republican leaning/donating car dealerships were shut down last year when GM/ChryCo got all socialized..)

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (66CM5)

98

9  Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of  LaRaza protest.

Horrors, the illegal aliens aren't skewing the data.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (cniXs)

99 98 I live in New York FUCKING City (as the t-shirt says). I do not need another Chuck Schumer, Gerald Nadler, Anthony Weiner or Gary Ackerman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 01, 2010 03:47 PM (9Cooa)

Every one could use another Weiner. 

Posted by: Jesse drippy dick James at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (pr+up)

100 "

Most Hispanics are refusing to fill it out. Some kind of  LaRaza protest.

For real?

Meanwhile, the cheating Demunist Commiecrats keep trying to impose "statistical sampling" (i.e., faking people).

Posted by: Curmudgeon"

the treatment of hispanics on the form is pretty insane.  The democrats want to decide who complains in the right way to be a race or an ethnicity or neither.  Iranians are denied anything, Pakastanis are a race, hispanics are a special thingie.  It's patronizing.  We're all people, and this is stupid.

They are right to be pissed, but they should just write "other: hispanic" in question 9 and leave 8 blank if they really want to piss people off.  It would be hilarious if that was still a major race result.  though I prefer "American" as the answer.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (dUOK+)

101

CAMPS!

Posted by: TheJane@AlexJones.com at April 01, 2010 11:49 AM (TGIED)

102 because blacks were only a fraction of a real person back then

*sigh* 

No...slave states wanted to count slaves to get more representatives and "free" states didn't.  A multiplier was the compromise.   Free blacks were whole people.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:50 AM (mR7mk)

103 I in fact-do honor the Constitution.

This year I will contribute 20k in taxes, which  has taken me about 20 hours of work to do. This payment  presumably will keep the government from coming to my house and hauling me off to tax evader prison. A simple scaled up flat tax would require no forms and a 2500 page tax code could find its way into the trash along with the census.

Common sense has lost it's way. We are the stupid children of nanny government. We have no say in campaign reform, no say in the ridiculous tax code, no say in the Obamacare debacle.

We are fucked just as long as you all believe we are fucked. When millions of people finally rise up, grow some balls and a spine, and are willing to go to prison to stop this insanity, then maybe we got a shot. Until then, all we got is a bunch of dissenters and hollow words and a government filled with Hank Johnson's trying to tell us how to live our lives worried that Guam will tip over and re-emerge some where near the north pole.




Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 11:50 AM (uFdnM)

104
Because we won't tolerate your budget-bustin' ways in our prosperous, small-government state.

And bring beer and wimmens, too.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (fx8sm)

105

because blacks were only a fraction of a real person back then

*sigh* 

No...slave states wanted to count slaves to get more representatives and "free" states didn't.  A multiplier was the compromise.   Free blacks were whole people

unless they were wounded in the war and lost a limb, in which case the fraction they represented was dependent on how many limbs they lost.

Posted by: Ben at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (wuv1c)

106

35  Whose doing the "American" thing under race question?

I did it kitteh.  The only other part I filled out was the number or residents. 

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (cniXs)

107 All I put was the # of people. That's all they need and that's all the Constitution allows. They even courteously asked that question first and put it in its own darker box.

Anyone who gave them more information is a sap.

Posted by: Ox-Eye Mike at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (KUllR)

108 I live in a state that could get a new congressman so I filled out the census.  If my answer to the race question makes it harder to racially gerrymander the congressional districts so much the better.

Posted by: tmitsss at April 01, 2010 11:51 AM (V4Pya)

109 I may not fill mine out.  I don't want five more people added to the population in my hopelessly deep-blue district (Manhattan).

Posted by: Doodad Pro at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (fNQUw)

110

Where have I been?

Did Rubio actually say that people like Olbermann "hate America" and should be traded for immigrants who love this country?

I think I'm in love....

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls having spelling issues too at April 01, 2010 03:42 PM (pLTLS)


Yes. Yes, he did. That's some sexy shit. If only he were single....and I were single. I would tear that up.

Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (MK6Kx)

111 If Samoan and Fijian can be races then so can my Celtic. Suck it up, d-baggers.

Posted by: Kelly at April 01, 2010 11:52 AM (iSdjV)

112 98 I live in New York FUCKING City (as the t-shirt says).
I had a relative send me a New York Shitty t-shirt a few years ago.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 01, 2010 11:53 AM (EL+OC)

113 "But Ace, I live in Massachusetts."

Keep your census to yourself. (Good point.)

Posted by: Christoph at April 01, 2010 11:53 AM (0fq7b)

114

Okay, originally I said I'd only fill out the first question. Especially if that damned LONG form came ... again. But the 10 questions I re-thunked it. But I did write "American" when asked about the race of each person in the household. Refused to give out my phone number (if they want it they have ways of getting it, no matter what the whole fukkin N.S.A. court decision was and why should I give it to them to sell to telemarketers, eh?) Just mailed it this afternoon. Hoping they figure I forgot, and have someone show up on my front porch so I can tell them to get the hell off my property.

Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 11:53 AM (GkYyh)

115 "102 I had some census hippie broad come by last week to fill out a "transitory resident" or some such form.  (The Ol' Lady manages two motels and we live in the Managers Residence of one of them for 5 years now...  I guess that makes us "transitory"...)

Anywho, the gal at the front desk calls me up and tells me this bimbo is asking questions about who, what, where, when, how, etc., about who lives here.  First I tell her, "The answer to any question the census bimbo asks is "TWO."."  Then I say nevermind, I'll come up front and talk to the nosey bint myself.

As soon as I get up there, census hippie starts in with the questions..."How many people, ages, sexes, races, blahblahblah....", and to each I answer, "TWO."  She says I need to answer these questions, basically, to be sure I get my cut.  I told her that we are too white and too childless to get jack-shit from Uncle Sugar personally, and the area is too white and too Republican to get much from the criminal administration currently fucking over the country* and all she needs to know is, "TWO", anything else The Fed needs to know about us is already in a fucking file somewhere and will you now kindly bugger off...

I don't know why she stomped out in a huff....

(*There were a lot of folks around here that were put out of work when the Republican leaning/donating car dealerships were shut down last year when GM/ChryCo got all socialized..)

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 03:49 PM (66CM5)"


You're a great American.  Thanks for standing up for what I believe in.  It's a shame so many republican dealership franshises were stolen for Government Motors.  Anyone buying one of their cars owes me a fucking explanation, and it better be a great one.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 11:54 AM (dUOK+)

116 I filled it out. For race I checked other and wrote in American.

Posted by: Bosk at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (pUO5u)

117 Heh. There's a visual aid for Chunks Johnson on the top headlines bar. Click the image.

Posted by: maddogg at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (OlN4e)

118 They'll be happy to know everyone in my house is American.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (r1h5M)

119 You cannot be serious!

Posted by: John McEnroe at April 01, 2010 11:55 AM (4y0YU)

120 anything else The Fed needs to know about us is already in a fucking file somewhere

Yeah.

The one delivered to my migrant shack was returned with 0 residents.  I'm hoping by the time they deploy a goon, I'll be back home, at the address on my tax return, where I was counted.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 11:56 AM (mR7mk)

121 I am curious.  Whose doing the "American" thing under the race question?

Q # 9, 'Other' write-in as "American". I did for both me & the dog.

Posted by: The Highland Pipes at April 01, 2010 11:56 AM (4hADy)

122 I live in New York FUCKING City (as the t-shirt says).

I used to have a "Fuck Ya'll, I'm from Texas" shirt

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (tr6Dy)

123 Ah put down 30 people.  Ah gots to get me my fair share of Obama's stash.

Posted by: Shawneequa at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (2jp4I)

124 Have a good time with the "American" thing, but no matter what you say your race is, honestly or not, when they run the numbers, they assign race percentages geographically. Based on what? Fuck you, that's what.

Posted by: oblig. at April 01, 2010 11:57 AM (x7Ao8)

125

wow Deval Patrick actually showing some balls by finally coming on Howie Carr's show

If Devil Patrick had balls, he'd go on Jay Severin's show. 

Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 11:58 AM (e8YaH)

126 Seriously though, I'm going to put down 600,000 people residing at my house.  To see if I can get my own Congressman.

Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 11:59 AM (e8YaH)

127 Shit. Guam just popped up in North Dakota. Apparently a bunch of census workers tipped the mf'er over. Coconuts in Dickinson. Sweet.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (uFdnM)

128 131 Seriously though, I'm going to put down 600,000 people residing at my house.  To see if I can get my own Congressman. Posted by: Truman North

BRILLIANT!!

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (66CM5)

129 Have a good time with the "American" thing, but no matter what you say your race is, honestly or not, when they run the numbers, they assign race percentages geographically. Based on what? Fuck you, that's what. The number of tanning salons we can tax.


Posted by: Your Friends at the Internal Revenue Service at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (ryXLv)

130 As much as we talk about putting down certain things on the Census, you know there are people out there putting way more confusing crap on there just to mess with them or because they can't figure out the form.  I'm sure there are plenty of both. 

Posted by: Adlib at April 01, 2010 12:01 PM (k/CNO)

131 We need to do a census here at AoSHQ. We are eligible for a zillion trillion dollars of Federal assisitance as well as a lifetime supply of government-supplied MRE pudding.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (UUTHH)

132 > This year I will contribute 20k in taxes, which has taken me about 20 hours of work to do. #108, are you hiring?

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (qndXR)

133

Instead of checking the boxes can I just shoot holes through them with my .22?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (7+pP9)

134 Got mine over a week ago, filled in a number, and mailed it back.

The rest, names, phone, color, sexual preferences, positions, and stool sample are simply an invasion of privacy (though, I did give the stool sample some thought).

Posted by: TexBob at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (2jp4I)

135 don't do it !! that was how the government found and killed all the hippies that filled it out DON"T TRUST DC

Posted by: Andy Rand at April 01, 2010 12:02 PM (mhD2v)

136 Ok so this post is saying those on the right in blue states shouldn't send it in AND we should steal our neighbors' forms as well? Aye aye cap'n. Btw I found the best way to get rid of census forms is to stuff them into dead hobos after you harvest their delicious organs.

Posted by: evil libertarian at April 01, 2010 12:03 PM (EX8du)

137 132 Shit. Guam just popped up in North Dakota. Apparently a bunch of census workers tipped the mf'er over. Coconuts in Dickinson. Sweet.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 04:01 PM (uFdnM)

Japanese hookers in Medora. I'm on my way!

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (UUTHH)

138 Have a good time with the "American" thing, but no matter what you say your race is, honestly or not, when they run the numbers, they assign race percentages geographically. Based on what? Fuck you, that's what.

Posted by: oblig. at April 01, 2010 03:57 PM (x7Ao

I know they've been asking the race question for forever, but seriously it's about time they stopped classifying us by race. And, in relation to redistricting, the state governments use the racial information to gerrymander districts. How else can you explain people like Corrine Brown being in the House. She has little pockets of real-estate in her "district" spread out over 6 or 7 Florida counties. All of which are overwhelmingly minority communities. How it is legal to pick out the minority communities from six separate counties (communities which do not overlap geographically, BTW) and make that a district, I'll never know. But I do know they get that info from the census.

Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (MK6Kx)

139 I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago.  It was a lot more involved than the standard Census form.

Plus all the threatening phone calls from the rude Census people nagging me to send the thing in.

Anybody else get one of those?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (H6Jyg)

140
STFU, dunce.

Posted by: This is Ed Morrissey at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (bcRFr)

141 131 Seriously though, I'm going to put down 600,000 people residing at my house.  To see if I can get my own Congressman.

Posted by: Truman North

Hey, you could also be getting a nice chunk of stimulus for your neo-district, dude.  Nicely played! BTW, that's a-shit-lot mo' than Harry Reid's hometown.

Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:04 PM (GkYyh)

142 The census is due today? No shit. I think my wife filled it out, but neglected to tell me, as she does not trust me to answer the questions. Afraid I will do shit like answer "too tired" in the "race" category.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (1PeEC)

143 The rest, names, phone, color, sexual preferences, positions, and stool sample are simply an invasion of privacy (though, I did give the stool sample some thought).

Posted by: TexBob at April 01, 2010 04:02 PM (2jp4I)

As I said before I found my great-grandparents on the 1900 census.  They had birthplace, education level, language spoken at home, whether the people spoke English, whether the couple was married, occupation, year of immigration, if applicable, etc.

In other words, this problem has gray hairs.  My great grandparents answered more questions than I did.  Which means the gubmint doesn't want to know the answers.  I find that disturbing in some way I can't articulate.

Posted by: Your Friends at the Internal Revenue Service at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (ryXLv)

144 Damn you IRS.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (ryXLv)

145 Anybody else get one of those?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 01, 2010 04:04 PM (H6Jyg)

Nope, and I'd give them a big FOAD if they'd contacted me about it.

Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:06 PM (MK6Kx)

146 146 131 Seriously though, I'm going to put down 600,000 people residing at my house.  To see if I can get my own Congressman.

Posted by: Truman North

That's about an average household size here on the border.

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:07 PM (UUTHH)

147 138

Instead of checking the boxes can I just shoot holes through them with my .22?

Posted by: Ed Anger

Yes, but clearly states must be black or blue. However, I'd opt for what the troops do ... dip the ammo in bacon fat first.

Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:07 PM (GkYyh)

148 Filled mine out and sent it in.  My family and I are all Native Americans.  I like to say if Chris Columbus came here tomorrow I would be one of the people looking back at him.  I was born here so that makes me Native American.    Please pass the peace pipe.

Posted by: schneedoo at April 01, 2010 12:08 PM (f6+Gp)

149 The census is due today? No shit. I think my wife filled it out, but neglected to tell me, as she does not trust me to answer the questions. Afraid I will do shit like answer "too tired" in the "race" category.

Posted by: Penfold at April 01, 2010 04:06 PM (1PeEC)

That's awesome!

Posted by: Mandy P. at April 01, 2010 12:08 PM (MK6Kx)

150 147 The census is due today? No shit. I think my wife filled it out, but neglected to tell me, as she does not trust me to answer the questions. Afraid I will do shit like answer "too tired" in the "race" category.

Posted by: Penfold

LMFAO!!1!! Classic!

Posted by: Drillanwr at April 01, 2010 12:10 PM (GkYyh)

151 So this time around are they going to count taxpayers as 3/5ths of a person?

Posted by: TexasJew at April 01, 2010 12:11 PM (UUTHH)

152

It is better if you fill in the information rather that let someone else do it.

Also it is a great tool for genealogist.

Found my husband's family that way.  I told my hubby that if it was good enough for his grandfather, great, and great great grandfather it is good enough for him.  He filled it out, finally.

Posted by: missg at April 01, 2010 12:11 PM (0k5oe)

153 how the government found and killed all the hippies

We wish.

My great grandparents answered more questions than I did. 

Database technology was pretty rudimentary back then. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (mR7mk)

154 But they will make you pay 7/5ths in taxes.

Posted by: schneedoo at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (f6+Gp)

155 Missg, all my relatives just want money.  They can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 12:13 PM (e8YaH)

156 I don't get the insane question on the census only for hispanics (I can't even imagine how that made it on there) and the race question is totally useless (and just incorrect in its categories - I know, I did Category Theory ... math joke) but I would like to see questions 8 and 9 replaced by the important question of status - US citizen, green card holder, visa holder, illegal alien.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (N49h9)

157 I answered mine under protest.

The part about race, I answered as "American" for all in my family.
They don't need to know what fuckin' color I am. That shit don't mean a damn thing.

Posted by: 1idvet at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (xUxh3)

158

I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago.  It was a lot more involved than the standard Census form.

Plus all the threatening phone calls from the rude Census people nagging me to send the thing in.

Anybody else get one of those?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 01, 2010 04:04 PM (H6Jyg)

30 years ago our family got what was then called the long form and it was at least 25 pages. They wanted to know all sorts of crap like the square footage of the house, number of bathrooms, number of toilets, number of bedrooms, acreage, income for each resident, educational level of each resident -- and on and on. Filling it out was such a pain in the ass my parents just guessed at anything they didn't know.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (7+pP9)

159
Someone said the race crap is to help assholes gerrymander.  That's exactly right.  That's the main reason they need this information.  It's also why they left off a lot of classic questions, like education level and other stuff that helps ancestor searches in 100 years (when those poor bastards have to pay for Obamacare).

They need this census tallied in time to gerrymander more quickly.  The TEA partiers are coming too quickly.  They have to get this shit done.  Race is basically all they want to know.  Fuck them.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (dUOK+)

160 Medora is cool.

Years ago, knowing I wasn't going to get any anyway, I called my G/F a libtard during a conversation involving Hillary's health care overhaul. This infuriated her to the extent that she picked up the phone and promptly called the authorities.

They descended on my home where my girlfriend, beaming with delight, pointed out my stash of census forms and mattress tags. I maintained that they were planted. I would have got away with the caper but they found my semen on a census form which thus-sealed my fate. Being a quick study, and having the same G/F- I now just sleep on the couch. That's how it is for me.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (uFdnM)

161 I am not sending my name because I worked for the census last year and this year. Everything I learn is covered by Title 13 of the US code and I have sworn and oath not to reveal any title 13 covered info and I will keep it, but I can make some comments on the other comments.

The Constitution says that every inhabitant of the country except "Indians who are not taxed" must be counted.  It says nothing about citizens or non-citizens. It is not limited to people living in houses. (Oh, the 3/5ths rule in the original document regarding unfree persons was an anti-slavery measure, and as the civil war approached greatly resented in the South-- read up on the Kansas Nebraska Act, Dred Scott, etc.)

The count must be carried out quickly, which is why so many people were hired and trained. Some people only work a few days--one of  the better people I trained with last year had to give it up on the instructions of his doctor (We used our cars to reach the census blocks, but I had to walk a mile or two in each of the blocks that fellow would have worked in had he held out, on some of the hottest days of last spring.)

Last year we used hand held computers with GPS, sort of Blackberries that had been in development for much of the last decade, and showed it.  This year I heard they had been sold to China.  Given the governments proven inability tn wipe the data from its old computers, that does worry me.

Yes, if you do not send in your form, they will send an enumerator around to your house to ask you your name, sex, race, and age. You can decline to give your race (I mailed in "American.") however the law is clear and you cannot refuse to be counted, even if you are anonymous.

None of the information may be released for 72 years, except for statistical purposes, and then it goes to the National Archives.  Anyone who releases such info will (er, can) go to jail for five years and be fined $250,000.

Now, as to the people conducting the census.  None of the people I worked with were high school drop outs.   Last year my crew leader was a business woman suffering from the Obama economy.  This year my crew leader is a Korean War vet and ex-Marine (most of the men had been in the Army or Marines and were retirees.) My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)

Oh yes, the federal census is different from the municipal census forms sent around once a year here in MA--if you don't send the municipal form in you get tossed from the voter roles.

Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 12:14 PM (4DyrA)

162 That's not going to happen if a lot of conservatives have a weird "off the grid" idea of boycotting the census.

Sellout!  Statist!

Posted by: FUBAR at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (1fanL)

163

Everything on that form is already in a DoD or VA computer mated up to my name. They have my DNA, fingerprints, a security clearance background investigation that lists my next door neighbors from junior high, and probably know more about the women I've slept with than I do.

Getting pissy with the government over minor privacy issues after a career spent in the military is a total waste of time. I still have duffle bags with my full SSN stenciled on them.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (GgXZc)

164

I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago.  Anybody else get one of those?

Yep.  And I filled out the number of folks living at the address and returned it.  By the time all the fuss and flap was over with, there were damn near three census workers buried in shallow graves out in west Texas somewhere.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at April 01, 2010 12:15 PM (pZEar)

165 I can't understand why on earth people are freaking out about how few census have been returned. The document first says its illegal to lie on or fail to fill out the questions, then it clearly asks how many people were in your household as of today's date.

You can't obey the law and fill out the census before today. Thus its weird any were turned in at all yet.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 01, 2010 12:19 PM (PQY7w)

166 I am curious.  Whose doing the "American" thing under race question?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 01, 2010 03:29 PM (0fzsA)

That would be me, for one.  I gave them the number of people in my household, and listed our races as "other: American".  Far as I'm concerned, I've done my part.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 01, 2010 12:21 PM (Rwudm)

167 They would never answer the illegal/greencard/immigrant question truthfully. Last night I was trying to get one of the people in the adult convert class to fill out his form so that the church can record his sacraments. He really balked at putting country of birth. Kept asking me if it was "necessary". I had to explain that the church loved illegals (to my annoyance). Yet he probably has an el salvadorian flag on his car.

Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2010 12:21 PM (8/NZJ)

168

They have my DNA, fingerprints, a security clearance background investigation that lists my next door neighbors from junior high, and probably know more about the women I've slept with than I do.

 

Usually, the less you know about them, the better it was.

Posted by: Truman North at April 01, 2010 12:22 PM (e8YaH)

169

My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)

[ . . . ]

Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)

Two words: Cultural Resources Management

Did it for a decade.

And who offers an archaeology degree? It's a subdivision of anthropology.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:23 PM (7+pP9)

170 The Constitution says that every inhabitant of the country except "Indians who are not taxed" must be counted.  It says nothing about citizens or non-citizens.

Illegals are not taxed, as they cannot have legitimate social security numbers.  I don't get your point.

None of the information may be released for 72 years, except for statistical purposes, and then it goes to the National Archives.  Anyone who releases such info will (er, can) go to jail for five years and be fined $250,000.

Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)


LOL.  Whatever happened to all those government workers in Ohio who released every detail for Joe The Plumber that they could criminally get their hands on?  Nothing, really.  What happened to those who benefitted from the illegal and obscene disclosures?  Nothing.

No one trusts this federal government to hold anything private, for good reason.

Also, what stops an illegal from claiming that 35 people are living in the house?  Nothing.  They're illegals.  They have no papers to prove anything. 

This census is nothing but a total joke that will have the integrity of Al Gore's homework and Joe Biden's personal quotations.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:24 PM (N49h9)

171

As has been pointed out implicitly, above, by this reasoning guys like me should actually do the boycott thing.

But the real reason to do it is to fullfil the requirements of the Constitution, and nobody in here should have a problem with that. If you want to get all huffy about some of the questions, go ahead and get cute on them. All that will probably do for you is get you a call from some poor slob who's stuck doing the census, or just make you look like an ignoramus (or wise guy) to any descendants you might have, when they look it up 72 years from now. No biggie.

The focus on hispanics and race is pretty bizarre, but it's short, and no big deal.

On a side note, though, I think it's funny how they have that uppity, technical, "hispanic is not a race" lecture on the form, and then in the commercials (which just confuse things in general) they use the term "latino" instead.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 01, 2010 12:24 PM (odEHq)

172 Me personally I'm planning on claiming 30 million and 3.  Since Obama and company decided to give me 30 million new dependents I guess I'd best put them down on the census and of course claim them all on my tax returns.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at April 01, 2010 12:25 PM (e8T35)

173 I was one of the lucky ones who received the "American Community Survey" from the Census Bureau a few months ago.  Anybody else get one of those?

I got one. I filled it out and then we moved.

They won't count it anyway, there's only 3 of us and we're all white.

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 12:26 PM (tr6Dy)

174 They would never answer the illegal/greencard/immigrant question truthfully. 

Posted by: dagny at April 01, 2010 04:21 PM (8/NZJ)

No problem.  That would just be one more crime they are committing.  This question would certainly help stop illegals from even thinking of filling out the census, though, and might even entice them to leave, as they think the government would be onto them for not returning the form.  It's a win-win-win, and it is information that the federal government actually needs, as opposed to race and hispanicity.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 01, 2010 12:27 PM (N49h9)

175

"Database technology was pretty rudimentary back then."

It's true.  You couldn't do that sweet click-n-drag to auto-populate the cells back then.

Man, Lotus 1-2-3 was such a bitch.

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 12:27 PM (q/kmn)

176 Filled out and mailed in 10-question form on Mar. 15, and again on Apr. 1. (Number I called about the second form assured me I wouldn't be counted twice. 'Kay.)

Posted by: Libsareb Raindead at April 01, 2010 12:28 PM (lYU4D)

177 just make you look like an ignoramus (or wise guy) to any descendants you might have, when they look it up 72 years from now.

I doubt very much that they will give a shit about where I slept on the night of April 1, 2010.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 01, 2010 12:28 PM (mR7mk)

178 I filled out my census today and mailed it in.  The questions were asked, AS OF APRIL 1ST, and I just wanted to be sure.  Things can happen fast.

Posted by: huerfano at April 01, 2010 12:29 PM (gLSaO)

179 On a side note, though, I think it's funny how they have that uppity, technical, "hispanic is not a race" lecture on the form,

Hispanic isn't a race. Technically, they're Caucasian.

I used to submit background checks for the State and the forms had two choices, white or black. You'd be surprised how many people wrote in Hispanic.

Of course, this is also the same time period I had this discussion with a co-worker:

I'm not white, I'm Mexican.

Really, what part of Mexico were you born in?

Aw, man, I was born in Oklahoma.

Oh, then you're an American, not a Mexican.

Que?

Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 12:30 PM (tr6Dy)

180

166 I am not sending my name because I worked for the census last year and this year.

[ . . . ]

 My MA is in archaeology (stupid choice of fields-- you don't make money digging up dead people.)

[ . . . ]

Posted by: American Citizen at April 01, 2010 04:14 PM (4DyrA)

Okay -- After thinking about a bit I figured it out.

Whoda thunk Mrs. C. Was a fellow moron?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 01, 2010 12:31 PM (7+pP9)

181 I received my notification that I would be receiving the census, and I received my notification that I had received the census, but I never received the census itself.  No doubt the postal worker knew I was a Teabaggin' Fascist and took it and filled it out himself.  But I live in 70% Dim Multnomah Co Oregon, so how does filling out the census help my Rethuglican children anyway?

Posted by: About to be Harrassed by Jackbooted Census Thugs at April 01, 2010 12:31 PM (BD2Ek)

182

Mine was easy, My wife and I are Caucasians, so '2' in that box,and our peach-faced lovebird is African-American, so '1' there. What's all the damn fuss? He even pooped on it to prove he's in the household!

 

/s

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 01, 2010 12:32 PM (ERJIu)

183 When your grandkids look you up, to see if you were a good enough American to note that for your race, what will they see?

Were you a fucking coward, who cares which hyphen-American group you are supposed to part of?  Or did you go ahead and fulfill your obligation to the census without dividing our people into interest groups?

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:33 PM (dUOK+)

184

@164

It seemed like they were up to something, with the exclusive focus on hispanics (read that "illegal aliens") and race.  This is the first plausible explanation I've heard - it really makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 01, 2010 12:35 PM (odEHq)

185 I used the red crayon to fill out mine!! eleventy!!!1111!!!!

Please return that to my 64-box. There's now only 72 in there so I know I'm missing a few.

Posted by: Joe the BFD Biden

check your nose; or Waxman's

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at April 01, 2010 12:38 PM (8g9qq)

186 My counting of an unborn child as person doesn't directly conflict with anything in the instructions, can wait to see how they handle it.

Posted by: Jean at April 01, 2010 12:39 PM (vb5IK)

187 So what if us Rethuglicans in heavily-Dem districts decided not to play?

After all, it's not like we're being represented anyway.

I somehow suspect that Pelosi would find an appropriate goon squad to come count us.

Posted by: mrkwong at April 01, 2010 12:42 PM (G8Eo0)

188 What if you you are a conservative in a Blue state? I say don't send it in.

Posted by: AJ Lynch

 

Same here. Didn't bother. If you are in a red or purple state, more power to you.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 01, 2010 12:46 PM (R2fpr)

189 My going rate for filling out census forms is 20k. That's just what I charge. If you don't wanna pay that freight, I understand. It's a free country.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 12:48 PM (uFdnM)

190 Every ten years, we add additional Representatives from Republican territory, and subtract an equal number from Democratic territory.

That's not going to happen if a lot of conservatives have a weird "off the grid" idea of boycotting the census.

I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 01, 2010 12:54 PM (Q75cY)

191
I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form? Dammit, Blaque Jaques, you beat me to the punch line!

Posted by: FatBaldnSassy at April 01, 2010 12:57 PM (Lq9ag)

192 "184 On a side note, though, I think it's funny how they have that uppity, technical, "hispanic is not a race" lecture on the form,

Hispanic isn't a race. Technically, they're Caucasian.

I used to submit background checks for the State and the forms had two choices, white or black. You'd be surprised how many people wrote in Hispanic.

Of course, this is also the same time period I had this discussion with a co-worker:

I'm not white, I'm Mexican.

Really, what part of Mexico were you born in?

Aw, man, I was born in Oklahoma.

Oh, then you're an American, not a Mexican.

Que?
Posted by: mpur in Texas"

According the the Census, Pakistani is a race.  You can't say Mexican isn't a race just because people generally divide into white.  All racial categories are pretty stupid and artificial.

Pakistani is just as white as Mexican, anyway.  Hell, African Americans are about as genetically European as Mexicans are.

This is about knowing who the democrats are, to gerrymander.  Race isn't real.  It would be more honest to just ask if you're a democrat.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 12:57 PM (dUOK+)

193
I live in California. Can I just ignore my census form?

Yes. If Californians all fill out census forms truthfully, it is my understanding that California will sink under the burden of all those folks, thus elevating the eastern seaboard to a height of 12,000 feet. People will be catapulted off Virginia Beach directly into the Pacific Ocean. Think before you sink.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 01:02 PM (uFdnM)

194 I live in California -- it already has waaaaaaay too much representation. Anyone have an address in Texas I could use?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 01, 2010 01:15 PM (u+gbs)

195 I live in Illinois. It will never be majority Repbulican (let alone conservative). If all Il R's refuse to do the census, we lose representation. I have no motivation to complete the form. I have every incentive to starve the beast that is Illinois government.

Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at April 01, 2010 01:18 PM (QBQcg)

196 They got the number of people (me), my age (no DOB), race, and sex. Nothing else, including my phone number.

Posted by: Ella at April 01, 2010 01:20 PM (RqARV)

197
Should I include the dead hobos in my basement?

Of course. And you should help them vote.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at April 01, 2010 01:26 PM (1hM1d)

198 "But Ace, I live in Massachusetts."

Again, Ace doesn't understand how the world works.

Yes, and since I'm a conservative in Massachusetts, I don't want to participate in the census. Because all that does is get more Democrat Congressmen elected, since the Democrat Party in Massachusetts is corrupt.

If you live in a Red State ... complete your census.

If you live with a bunch of retarded fucking moron liberals, do not fill out the census and encourage all your friends' conspiracy theories about why he shouldn't fill out the census either.

That's the Chicago Way.

Posted by: smarterguy at April 01, 2010 01:34 PM (VRJIW)

199 Fine, I'll fill it out.  But I'm putting "Texan" for race.  The hell with them.

Posted by: brak at April 01, 2010 01:37 PM (W5NBA)

200 I remember back when I was a kid how important New York was with the electoral count. Now look at it. They've lost something like 20+ electoral votes in the last thirty years. Obviously, the high tax rate is responsible. Other factors might play a part as well. Researching the topic would be a good paper for a political science major.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 01, 2010 01:40 PM (P33XN)

201 it said blue or black ink.  so I gave my 4yr old a blue thick sharpie and had him practice letters or numbers on it.  I observed, n read it to him.

Cool he now knows how to write AMERICAN.

Posted by: troublemaker at April 01, 2010 01:44 PM (g2qqp)

202 For race I put:

Fuck Al Sharpton

Posted by: Joe at April 01, 2010 01:49 PM (2jp4I)

203 And yes, my comments are being censored.

Posted by: notaguy at April 01, 2010 02:01 PM (VRJIW)

204
For race I put:
Fuck Al Sharpton War Emblem!


Posted by: This is Darth Shopping Maul at April 01, 2010 02:02 PM (o1n/J)

205 Why didn't you come to me like a  fucking man and tell me to fill out the fucking census?

Posted by: Pitchfork Pete at April 01, 2010 02:15 PM (90oki)

206 Should I include the dead hobos in my basement?

No, those go on your 1040 later this month.

Posted by: Sir Belvedere at April 01, 2010 02:20 PM (LtIsn)

207 We got the short form, filled it out, and it's gone.  I was pissed, however, that I didn't get to break down "white" into "British", "Other European" or "Dirty Scandi".

Will one of you morons be a sweetie and make me a cocktail?  I've been spring cleaning all day (after dreaming about cleaning last night).  Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 01, 2010 02:24 PM (UOM48)

208 Under #9 Race, check Other and then write in American.

Posted by: erp at April 01, 2010 02:26 PM (RzTM+)

209 "203 "But Ace, I live in Massachusetts."

Again, Ace doesn't understand how the world works.

Yes, and since I'm a conservative in Massachusetts, I don't want to participate in the census. Because all that does is get more Democrat Congressmen elected, since the Democrat Party in Massachusetts is corrupt.

If you live in a Red State ... complete your census.

If you live with a bunch of retarded fucking moron liberals, do not fill out the census and encourage all your friends' conspiracy theories about why he shouldn't fill out the census either.

That's the Chicago Way.
Posted by: smarterguy"

You're a traitor.  I can tell you never served in the military, because you refuse to honor the US Constitution.  Just do your duty, you fucking asshole.

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 02:32 PM (dUOK+)

210 ``I am curious.  Whose doing the "American" thing under race question?''

My husband filled it out and wrote in "human."

Posted by: Annalucia at April 01, 2010 02:39 PM (vVp8s)

211 Too late. Mine went straight to the trash.

 But I'll make you a deal. When the dick-nuggets in DC decide to adhere to the Constitution, I will too.Until then, fuck them and fuck the census.

Posted by: the flaming dildo at April 01, 2010 02:41 PM (pOOCt)

212
According the the Census, Pakistani is a race.  You can't say Mexican isn't a race just because people generally divide into white.  All racial categories are pretty stupid and artificial.

Pakistani is just as white as Mexican, anyway.  Hell, African Americans are about as genetically European as Mexicans are.

This is about knowing who the democrats are, to gerrymander.  Race isn't real.  It would be more honest to just ask if you're a democrat.


Mexican, Pakistani, Irish, German.....those are nationalities.


Posted by: mpur in Texas at April 01, 2010 02:53 PM (tr6Dy)

213 @216 I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK! Everything they do in DC is a complete and total fiction, starting with the phoney CBO scores, the Fannies, the Freddies, the inflated this, the deflated that, completely fantasy. Yet, we peons have to swear on pain of perjury that what we say is true...

Posted by: rawmuse at April 01, 2010 02:54 PM (AMis9)

214 I filled out the Census... just the first question on how many people are living in my house.  The rest they can get f'd for.

Posted by: Joey Biden, from Scranton at April 01, 2010 02:58 PM (Infzd)

215 Malkin has at least two testimonies on Conservatives who took jobs with the Census and were shocked at the blatant pissing away of cash.

That is OUR cash, people.

I am perfectly capable of pissing away my own money: Give it Back!

Posted by: TXMarko at April 01, 2010 03:02 PM (zYx/c)

216 Also, I received two census forms in the mail, both sent to the identically same address.

I already sent in one, filled out.

What should I do with this one?

Should I expect a dynamic entry from one of the Gub'mint Death Squads SWAT teams anytime soon?

Posted by: TXMarko at April 01, 2010 03:04 PM (zYx/c)

217 Con  census

Posted by: MOE GRUNT at April 01, 2010 03:18 PM (DBoxP)

218 You're a traitor.  I can tell you never served in the military, because you refuse to honor the US Constitution.  Just do your duty, you fucking asshole.

I did. That's why mine went into the trash, asswipe.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 03:19 PM (uFdnM)

219

Just kidding, all.

I don't have a basement.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at April 01, 2010 03:31 PM (v3pYe)

220

It just makes no Census, I tell ya.

It's just racist.  Why do they need to know our race? 

Ages ok, so they know what type of impact the school system will have. But race? com'on already, I thought we were past that.

 

Posted by: Say What? at April 01, 2010 03:32 PM (vwh8M)

221 My neighbor got mailed two forms, one to his regular address and one to his regular address (b)."

He should fill both out.  Submit the one to address (b) with zero inhabitants.  Let The Man mull over who filled it out if there aren't any residents...

Posted by: reason at April 01, 2010 03:45 PM (F26eZ)

Thread winner.

Posted by: RushBabe at April 01, 2010 03:36 PM (LKkE8)

222 #215, I bow to your husband

Posted by: Say What? at April 01, 2010 03:38 PM (vwh8M)

223

I filled out mine the day I received it--just haven't mailed it.* Ace never said anything about mailing it.

*yet

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at April 01, 2010 03:52 PM (yfJ6g)

224

https://  genographic.  nationalgeographic  .com/  genographic/  journey.    html

Put that up your race.

Posted by: Say What? at April 01, 2010 04:02 PM (vwh8M)

225

I answered questions 1, 2 and 10 since they dealt with enumeration (and I found a case where someone was fined per question). 

I will be quite comfortable, confident, and happy to argue (if I have to) that answering any of the other questions would have in fact been unconstitutional. After I point out that I did not complete the form prior to April 1st in spite of the Census Bureau's instructions and encouragement (nagging) to illegally do just that.

Posted by: BA at April 01, 2010 04:12 PM (GkYyh)

226 For the race field I'm going to tape a small piece of my fingernail to the form.

Then they can sequence my genome, and do hyperdimensional clustering analysis to put me in one of the hierarchical groups discovered from genome databases.

I've got guesses but they aren't scientific, as far as I know they are just the result of false assumptions and prejudices.  Better safe than sorry.


Posted by: onceastoner at April 01, 2010 04:36 PM (9vsSX)

227 I completed the form about two weeks ago.  Today I received another copy telling me it was the law that I had to complete and return it.  If I do, will my family be counted twice?  I'm in California, so I don't want to provide any more people than necessary, so Congress Critters can go somewhere else.

Posted by: timothyJ at April 01, 2010 05:06 PM (IKKIf)

228

i hope neanderthal is ok for race, cuz i really dont know.

for #living there i took the rootmeansquare of the whole year(more in summer with vagrants, drunks and stoners) and came up with 132.

Posted by: wetback at April 01, 2010 05:22 PM (VZAZB)

229 Only thing with the Rust Belters moving to the Sun Belt is they bring their stupid politics with them many times. Just like Colorado has been Californicated and transformed from red to blech uh um I meant blue.

Posted by: 88Cid at April 01, 2010 05:22 PM (yM/qQ)

230 I resented filling out the form, though it is preferable to having some census worker stalk me for months.  I do agree that the short form is very similar to ones my ancestors filled out about 100 years ago.

I do wonder why they even need  me to fill it out as they might simply 'google' me for the same information. 

Where I do have an issue is that it appears that folks in Chicago are receiving multiple forms.  I received two.  My neighbors have received a range of 3 to 7 forms a piece.  That. Can. Not, Be Good. 

Posted by: flodigarry at April 01, 2010 05:44 PM (NOXHf)

231 Oh, our house has existed only for over 100 years. But evidently the govt doesn't think it exists. So it's moot whether I fill out a form. Because they're not sending us one. Bah.

Posted by: meep at April 01, 2010 05:47 PM (Jw4eT)

232 Okay, fine. The census is totally bullshit. We don't get counted. Well, tell you what feds -- you don't count us, we don't have to pay taxes. Is that a deal? I'm willing to make that deal.

Posted by: meep at April 01, 2010 05:53 PM (Jw4eT)

233 meep - I think Chicago got your forms.  What do you want me to fill out on the second form?

Posted by: flodigarry at April 01, 2010 05:54 PM (NOXHf)

234 "I did. That's why mine went into the trash, asswipe.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 01, 2010 07:19 PM (uFdnM)"


You did your duty before the US Constitution to throw your census in the garbage?  The constitution requires the people be enumerated.  Your duty is to tell the Man how many people are in your house. 


You think you're a badass for fucking with our country.  You're just like the scumbags in ACORN.  Everything is about political party.  There is no honor.  Oh well, the Census will call your neighbors and they will say you live with your parents and everything will be OK.  I don't mind refusing to answer anything but the enumeration, but if you don't agree with the constitution, get it changed.  We all agree to live in this society, benefit from the domestic tranquility, and this isn't a big fucking burden to obey some easy law like '3 people live here".

Posted by: throwaway handle at April 01, 2010 07:11 PM (dUOK+)

235 Know what? You're all punching down.

Posted by: comatus at April 01, 2010 07:17 PM (/VEEI)

236 They don't just want to know who lives there. They want your name. They want your DOB. They want your telephone number. They want to call you. They want to know if you sleep around. They want to know if you know anyone in prison.

Posted by: moi at April 01, 2010 07:18 PM (Ez4Ql)

237

I don't boycott the census...I already sent mine in. 

It has three pieces of information on it:  my name, how many people live in my house, and my "race," which I marked as "human."

Posted by: Picky at April 01, 2010 07:46 PM (H5kz4)

238

Anyone remember the Christopher Walken SNL sketch about the census?

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at April 01, 2010 08:10 PM (IM1cF)

239 Im a NewYork Conservative. Do you still want me to maintain my reps?  I dont...

Posted by: BMAc at April 01, 2010 08:16 PM (XtiN0)

240 I live in CA-13, Pete Stark's district. If I put down -752 will it help him retire?

Posted by: Max Entropy at April 01, 2010 08:40 PM (OdTRB)

241 Picky and I had the same idea. I put "Homo Sapiens" as my race. Might as well use something with actual scientific validity.  Giving the guys who use this data (to gerrymander districts and decide where to aim the vote-buying crapola) headaches is just a bonus.

Posted by: GamerFromJump at April 01, 2010 08:59 PM (LYdrC)

242 The Census is actually mandated by the Constitution.

Article 1, Section 2: "The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct."

The government actually fulfilling a Constitutional responsibility. Shocka, I know.

Posted by: GamerFromJump at April 01, 2010 09:07 PM (LYdrC)

243

Well the whole idea of "race" is a social construct anyway. The biological concept of race is any taxonomic group that is capable of breeding.  All dogs are of the canine "race," for instance.

Since we know that all humans are capable of breeding with all other humans, then the idea of different "races" among humans is not valid.  There is only one race, the human race.

Here's another example:  what does Tiger Woods put down as his "race?"  I saw that supposedly his ethnicity is made up of 1/4 African American, 1/4 Thai, 1/4 Chinese, 1/8 Native American and 1/8 Dutch. 

Or, how about our Dear Leader who we know is the "first black President" when his mother was as white as anybody. 

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245 Since the Constitution specifically excludes Indians not paying taxes from the census and since most Mexicans have some Indian ancestors, it seems that the reluctance of many Hispanics to be counted in the census is based on a deep respect for our Constitution, at least if they are not making enough to pay income tax.

Posted by: Mark in Texas at April 02, 2010 05:01 AM (ZJeca)

246 I'm a conservative in a deeply blue state.  Wouldn't it be a good idea if I didn't fill out the census form?  I want less of my state polluting this nation with liberalism, not more.

Posted by: two words at April 02, 2010 06:25 AM (QxGmu)

247 Two words, I think you should just act with integrity.  What would you want a democrat in Texas to do?  Tell the truth?

If you steal representation from your state, that's very similar to ACORN vote fraud.  It's not a gift for your state to be represented a certain way in the House.  This is our country.

Let's not cheat when it comes to elections, votes, representation, etc, with dirty tricks like fucking up the census.  Let's punish people who do that.

You know damn well that if you learned that ACORN did something like this, it would totally piss you off. 

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