May 17, 2010
— Ace Daniel Pipes calls it Affirmative Action in beauty contests, noticing a trend of recent Muslim winners in the US and Europe. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing -- there may be some benefit to empowering, and, frankly, sexualizing Muslim women.
Debbie Schlussel notes, however, that very pointed questions could have been posed to this woman-- for example, would she denounce Hezbollah, which controls the area of Lebanon her family hails fromf?
A high-profile Muslim woman denouncing Hezbollah, or, more broadly, terrorism generally, would be such a thing of beauty I'd giver her eight crowns if I could. But she didn't denounce them; the judges were too cowardly to even ask her about it.
I can't vouch for Schlussel's sources, and I don't, actually, assume this to be true -- not without independent confirmation.
But still: it would have been a good question to ask.
She was born in the Hezbollah stronghold of Srifa in South Lebanon, which Israel was forced to attack in the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war because it was a site of Hezbollah weaponry. Her devout Muslim family comes from the Hezbollah-controlled South Lebanon. Intelligence sources confirm that at least three of Fakih’s relatives are currently top officials in Hezbollah and that at least eight Fakih family members were Hezbollah terrorists killed by the Israelis in past Israel-Lebanese wars and interventions. Some of her family members were originally in Harakat Amal [the Shi'ite Amal militia], which is now essentially a part of Hezbollah. There’s a reason that even Al-Manar TV–Hezbollah’s official TV network–is high on Fakih in the Miss USA pageant.
Again, I don't mind a Muslim woman winning this; I think it could be kinda-sorta a good message, and I don't give a fig otherwise about who should "really win" or who was most deserving. I know these women work hard, but the whole pageant is a PR exercise in the first place, so I don't mind PR being part of the criteria for selecting a winner.
But, if messaging is going to count in these contests, let's make sure it's good messaging.
Why on earth was a Muslim woman not asked to perform the useful function of denouncing violence and championing liberal Enlightenment values?
Was it because they feared her answer? Well, if they feared her answer -- then she shouldn't win. If Carrie Prejean can't win for expressing support of traditional marriage -- if that's too religious-nutty for these people -- then how can we have a winner who can't be asked to affirm peace and nonviolence?
But perhaps they simply avoided difficult political questions altogether, you might think. Perhaps they are avoiding last year's Perez Hilton controversy, and want to keep the questions inoffensive and apolitical, the way it used to be.
Nope.
Miss Oklahoma is asked about that hot-button -- and her answer counted against her, of course; it's not a "pretty" answer, as Perez Hilton said last year of Carrie Prejean -- but we can't have a Muslim woman asked about terrorism?
I don't know if Schlussel is right about this woman's family being Hezballah-connected. Could be true, could be false, could be very distant family relations that count for little in her life.
But if we're going to hash out questions of public policy and shared values in these contests -- as we are, it seems -- then why can we not ask a Muslim woman about the most important question of the decade? Why can we not enlist her on our side as a public-relations princess affirming the value of human life and denouncing terrorist murder?
Or is that too controversial? Arizona's law isn't too controversial to ask about; but it's somehow wrong to ask someone to denounce terrorist murder?
I really do think it's kind of a cool thing that a Muslim woman should win this. I think it's kind of nice for plurality and diversity and blahblahbleeblahblah and I also think it could be useful, in a small way, in the culture war for the Islamic soul. A culture war that, by the way, is an actual war, with bombings and bullets and death.
I don't think she should be "picked on" just because she's Arabic or Muslim.
But this is an important question. And if a Southern, conservative Christian woman can be asked about the hot-button issue of immigration, on pain of forfeiting the contest for failure to echo the PC answer the judges want, is it too much to ask this woman to take a stand on a much more important question?
Correction: I originally wrote this half-assuming Schlussel's charges about Miss USA being connected, by family, to Hezballah to be true, at least in a provisional sort of way.
I have rewritten it to be much more dubious about that charge, for a couple of reasons.
First, it's a big charge, and it's not fair to level without real evidence.
Second, apart from Schlussel's assertion that "intelligence sources" confirm this, I have no evidence at all -- and Michelle Malkin, for one, avoids that claim herself. If Malkin winds up affirming that charge, I'll believe it.
But I don't have to believe this woman to be a terrorist or terrorist-supporter to believe that if we're going to be asking difficult questions of beauty pageant contests, we can and should be asking them if they support murder or not.
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Posted by: John Wayne Bobbit at May 17, 2010 12:43 PM (zqzYV)
3-2-1..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2010 12:43 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2010 12:46 PM (f9c2L)
I don't think she should be "picked on" just because she's Arabic or Muslim.
she got picked because she was the hottest one up there.
Also, did the judges even know about her relatives? Plus, it's an easier question to ask about the Arizona law to someone in the US and to ask an American girl about her relatives over in Lebanon not in a political sense but a correlation sense.
Posted by: fartbubble at May 17, 2010 12:47 PM (gAmQ1)
Posted by: Jeff B. at May 17, 2010 12:48 PM (l1KFP)
That said, considering considering she was running around in a bikini on national TV, I think we can safely conclude she's not down with Sharia or any hardcore islamic beliefs. Considering her smoking little body, I for one am greatfull for that.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 17, 2010 12:49 PM (9B5OK)
They are cowardly little suck-ups who hope that they will be beheaded last.
Posted by: NJConservative at May 17, 2010 12:49 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Jeff B. at May 17, 2010 04:48 PM (l1KFP)
yeah, she's kinda like Bozell. Okay one moment and then going off into moonbat territory the next
Posted by: fartbubble at May 17, 2010 12:49 PM (gAmQ1)
Women were beaten in Afghanistan because the wind lifted their berkas, inadvertently exposing their ankles. How long before a "frustrated" ROPbot decides a pole dancing, bikini clad Muslim Miss USA is an insult to the prophet?
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 17, 2010 12:50 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: t-bird at May 17, 2010 12:50 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: alexthechick at May 17, 2010 12:50 PM (8WZWv)
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 17, 2010 12:50 PM (SbFur)
Posted by: rdbrewer at May 17, 2010 12:51 PM (LWzOv)
When I heard the question posed of Miss Oklahoma, misstated as the judge showed that he has not a clue what federal or state even mean, I just kind of chuckled. She gave a good answer, to start, but the fact is that it was just a ridiculous question from the start. Why don't they just ask the pole-dancers to do path integration, or something of that sort? It would make as much sense.
There is no question that these competitions are rigged for political correctness, but they are private businesses, so I don't really care. Miss USA represents the US as much as Shazaam is an American or as much as the Indonesian Imbecile represents American sensibilities.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 12:52 PM (Qp4DT)
If we treat them as little babies protected by a force field of political correctness, they'll never be thought of as legitimate. They'll always be suspect, since they have to be protected by placing those relevant questions off-limits. Much like black people might be viewed as less competent/qualified/intelligent/whatever as long as we supposedly need Affirmative Action.
Posted by: nickless at May 17, 2010 12:52 PM (MMC8r)
don't Miss USA winners usually go to promote the US military at many events. So, how is this going to work?
Ya know the US military members will know all about this, will she promote them and America? or promote her religion and Hezbollah?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at May 17, 2010 12:53 PM (ACkhT)
You know what would work? Not asking these types of questions at all.
Who fucking cares? It's a friggin' beauty pageant. I could care less what these women think about anything.
Having said that, the muslim chick isn't that hot.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 12:54 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Joey Plugs at May 17, 2010 12:55 PM (GwPRU)
ace, if she does have ties to radical Islam or Hamas she's gonna have some 'splainin' to do.
I'd hit that like a JDAM hitting an Afghan wedding procession.
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 12:55 PM (t72+4)
I would be much more in favor of these things if they stopped asking them questions altogether, and the talent contest consisted entirely of domestic chores and sex acts.
So long, morons, see you tomorrow.
Posted by: Truman North at May 17, 2010 12:55 PM (e8YaH)
I agree, keep all these questions out. And the OK lady is much better looking, she should have won.
plus, my wife told me the muslim chick tripped during the formal gown part of the show. Affirmative Action on display, she trips and still wins.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at May 17, 2010 12:56 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Monty at May 17, 2010 12:56 PM (4Pleu)
Posted by: DrewM. at May 17, 2010 04:49 PM (9B5OK)
Of course I'd hit it like an Iranian nuke'd hit Israel. But did you see Miss Oklahoma? Did you hear Miss Oklahoma?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 12:56 PM (1fanL)
don't Miss USA winners usually go to promote the US military at many events. So, how is this going to work?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at May 17, 2010 04:53 PM (ACkhT)
all of the pageant contestants of Miss USA and Miss America work with the military
Posted by: fartbubble at May 17, 2010 12:57 PM (gAmQ1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 17, 2010 12:57 PM (SbFur)
I figure it is good she won. After all, if she had lost, she would have left a SUV at Trump Casino with an exploding "gift" for Duh-nold, ala Time Square.
Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at May 17, 2010 12:58 PM (4yHLd)
OT, but too hilarious to let pass.
Via Drudge: Even bees hate Bammer.
Posted by: Monty at May 17, 2010 04:56 PM (4Pleu)
Bee-Baggers !
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 12:58 PM (t72+4)
but does she vajazzle
I don't know, but I heard she really nailed the suicide bomb belt portion of the pageant.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 12:59 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2010 01:00 PM (R2fpr)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 01:00 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Post needs pics at May 17, 2010 01:01 PM (6oqXG)
That said, considering considering she was running around in a bikini on national TV, I think we can safely conclude she's not down with Sharia or any hardcore islamic beliefs. Considering her smoking little body, I for one am greatfull for that.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 17, 2010 04:49 PM (9B5OK)
BOOBQUAKE!
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 17, 2010 01:02 PM (xxgag)
Just coincidence that last years points leader was asked a question that took her out of the running, and that this years runner up also was asked the questionable question? I don't think so.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 17, 2010 01:02 PM (Poe30)
Posted by: Monty at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (4Pleu)
I went through the whole slide show of lingerie pics on Fox News, and I was rather partial to Miss Montana if I remember right.
One of the news reports said her family is mixed Lebanese Christian/ Muslim ancestry, which is not uncommon over there from before the civil war, and would explain nicely why her family fled what is now a Hamas stronghold for the States. She attended Catholic schools for years. And most simply, no girl from a fundie Muzzie family will have a career in pageants, she would have been honor-killed by her parents first.
I fucking hate Debbie Schlussel, she makes Mike Church's show unlistenable when she's on, and in this case Debbie is disregarding the old saying "when you hear hoofbeats, expect horses, not zebras" and is actually proclaiming the coming of a unicorn.
So maybe she's an affirmative action win. She's worth it just for the news coverage that a Muslim woman did something besides hide in a burqa or suicide-bomb an Israeli restauraunt.
Posted by: Shazad's Pet Goat at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (GgXZc)
She knew what was going on at the dinner ObAma attended with Ayers.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (eNxMU)
Posted by: reason at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (V40IZ)
I read that whole thing and I never got to see a bikini picture of the winner? What a screw job.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2010 05:01 PM (DsU01)
Go to the link at #25. Gratuitous bikini and pole dancing shots of Ms. Fakih.
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 01:03 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 05:00 PM (mHQ7T)
Anything that looked like Miss Michigan ... uh, yeah. But I'd hate myself years later.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 01:04 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 05:00 PM (mHQ7T)
We're screwed.
Posted by: nickless at May 17, 2010 01:04 PM (MMC8r)
Taqiyya in a bikini.
"Look, those muslims are just like us. They enter beauty contests and everything."
Posted by: TiredWench at May 17, 2010 01:04 PM (oPceJ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:04 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Post needs pics at May 17, 2010 05:01 PM (6oqXG)
Yeah, none of the rest of 'em were hot.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 01:04 PM (1fanL)
South American Killer Bees!
Posted by: damian at May 17, 2010 01:05 PM (4WbTI)
3-2-1..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2010 04:43 PM (f9c2L)
Women were beaten in Afghanistan because the wind lifted their berkas, inadvertently exposing their ankles. How long before a "frustrated" ROPbot decides a pole dancing, bikini clad Muslim Miss USA is an insult to the prophet?
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 17, 2010 04:50 PM (Oxen1)
What do you guys mean, "How long before"? The "corrupting influence" of the West on Muslim women and its corrosive effect on their "sense of modesty" has been a core motivation of the modern jihad for decades.
One could argue that the bikini was one of the drivers of the Lebanese civil war: Christian and modernized Muslim women wanted to be able to wear them, Hezbollah wanted them in head-to-toe abbayas. For the time being, even though Lebanese law technically prohibits women from wearing bikinis, no one enforces the law and massively hot Lebanese women show as much skin on the beach near Beirut as Israeli supermodels do on the beach at Tel Aviv.
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:05 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 05:04 PM (P33XN)
Stompy boot modeling, sammich making, and lap dancing contests will decide the winner.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 01:05 PM (1fanL)
#57, some of them are like us, and are looking for a refuge from those who want them and us collectively dead.
And because the ones who are like us can speak the language and can spot the infiltrators, we need to use them as sepoys against the hardcore threat sort of Muzzies.
Posted by: SGT Dan at May 17, 2010 01:07 PM (GgXZc)
Though she can be very, very annoying, I have found Schlussel to usually be accurate and to very often be one of the first on an important story regarding islam/the Indonesian Imbecile and related topics (though Debbie would say that she's always first and everyone else steals from her).
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 01:07 PM (Qp4DT)
If you wanna crown 'em, then crown their ass!
Posted by: Denny Green at May 17, 2010 01:07 PM (Mmw0q)
I understand that her bikini and other fashions she wore are all the rage on the streets of Iran and Saudi Arabia. I understand that this is partially because women have taken to beating the piss out of the Saudi Vice and Virtue Police:
Israellycool
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 17, 2010 01:07 PM (RkRxq)
I wouldn't hit it. I like American women. All the delicious mixtures of countries after a couple of generations is much more interesting.
I wouldn't hit it, either.
Miss Oklahoma, on the other hand, I would. You could bounce a quarter off that ass.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:07 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 05:04 PM (P33XN)
Stompy boot modeling, sammich making, and lap dancing contests will decide the winner.
Posted by: FUBAR
The guest judge can be Obama's teleprompter, in a triumphant return.
Events include the broad jump.......
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2010 01:08 PM (R2fpr)
Posted by: reason at May 17, 2010 01:08 PM (V40IZ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 01:08 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: reason at May 17, 2010 01:09 PM (V40IZ)
May 16, 2010, - 11:38 pm
Donald Trump, Dhimmi: Miss Hezbollah Rima Fakih Wins Miss USA; Rigged for Muslima? Miss OklahomaÂ’s Arizona Immigration Answer
By Debbie Schlussel
It’s a sad day in America but a very predictable one, given the politically correct, Islamo-pandering climate in which we’re mired. The Hezbollah-supporting Shi’ite Muslim, Miss Michigan Rima Fakih–whose bid for the pageant was financed by an Islamic terrorist and immigration fraud perpetrator–won the Miss USA contest. I was on top of this story before anyone, telling you about who Fakih is and her extremist and deadly ties.
hezbollah4.jpgMISS USA
Rima Fakih: Miss Hezbollah is Now Miss USA
No, it’s not “just another beauty pageant.” Donald Trump, Muslims (who mostly support Islamic terrorist groups, like Hezbollah, which features many of Fakih’s close relatives as top officials), and even Barack Obama will exploit this as propaganda for Islam. Mark my word. Hezbollah is laughing at us, tonight. One of its auxiliary members won the Miss USA title without having to do a thing to denounce them and their bloody murder of hundreds of Americans, including the trampling/torture murder of Navy Diver Robert Dean Stethem aboard TWA flight 847, the 25th anniversary of which is next month.
Dhimmi Donald Trump simply didn’t have the guts to demand that Fakih denounce the Islamic group Hezbollah, whose martyrs and top terrorists are Fakih family members. It doesn’t matter to the Donald that this is the terrorist group that murdered more Americans than any other after Al-Qaeda, and probably more, when you count its joint ventures with Hezbollah. Trump made a bigger deal with Miss California USA and her bimbo activities, when–hellooooo–it’s a bimbo contest. Now, Hezbollah has the chief USA bimbo. And they’ll use it.
I don’t just wonder if this whole contest is rigged. I have a feeling that it is. Clearly, there is affirmative action for Muslim women in beauty pageants and other such “contests.”
Posted by: non_dhimmie at May 17, 2010 01:09 PM (zACGu)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 17, 2010 01:10 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at May 17, 2010 01:10 PM (YVZlY)
Posted by: ktgreat at May 17, 2010 01:10 PM (E+HhN)
If she's a Muslim, I'm the fucking King of Siam. Shaking her junk around like that.
I bet she still has a hairy back.
Posted by: Dang at May 17, 2010 01:10 PM (UA4gE)
The guest judge can be Obama's teleprompter, in a triumphant return.
Right after an intoxicated Blazer opens the pageant with a stirring rendition of "There She Is".
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:11 PM (P33XN)
Even if she showed you her birth certificate?
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 01:11 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 17, 2010 01:14 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Former Miss America, Gretchen Carlsson, Former Miss America at May 17, 2010 01:14 PM (YfqPv)
My take on the "rigged" contest. She's clearly a beautiful woman like a hell of a lot of women from over there. Too bad she can do this and women over there can't.
Whether is was rigged or not, imo if this is a beauty contest, she clearly qualifies.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 17, 2010 01:14 PM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Mrs Betty Hitler at May 17, 2010 01:14 PM (7b1Uc)
Posted by: Shazad's Pet Goat at May 17, 2010 05:03 PM (GgXZc)
Yeah, I was just going to point that out.
Her question was about health insurance for birth control pills. It's not really a hot button topic since only Catholics (I think) are 100% opposed to that sort of contraception (and that's pretty much honored in the breach at best).
Either way I'm not sure what sect of either Islam or Christianity is down with pole dancing contests, so this chick is cool by me.
Posted by: DrewM. at May 17, 2010 01:14 PM (9B5OK)
At any rate, to those who think she's not good looking....you know how we know that you're gay?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 17, 2010 01:16 PM (Poe30)
Posted by: Former Miss America, Gretchen Carlsson, Former Miss America at May 17, 2010 05:14 PM (YfqPv)
Gretchen said once, on Fox & Friends, that she won because she was short. I think it was the breasts, but that's what Gretchen thought.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 01:16 PM (Qp4DT)
I'm waiting for the Miss AOSHQ moronette pageant broadcast live right here on the blog.
Wow, you must have A LOT of free time on your hands.
Better get yourself comfortable. With that wait and all.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 17, 2010 01:16 PM (pLTLS)
We didn't have a lot of option, you know.
Posted by: shakers at May 17, 2010 01:16 PM (4WbTI)
You haven't looked at her face, have you? Compare to the previous winners.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 17, 2010 01:16 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Zeituni Onyango at May 17, 2010 01:17 PM (7b1Uc)
You want to believe that plunking down Muslims or whoever in the West will make them Westerners. Doesn't happen. Can't happen. Has never happened, in fact. There is no possibility of assimilation.
Irish, Germans, Italians, can all assimilate because they shared pretty much every core cultural assumption, and were all fairly closely related via DNA and such.
Muslims? They might as well be Martians or folks from Planet Lovetron.
Mark Steyn wrote how liberals want to hop on board the Sharia Express and then get off on one stop later. Its and Express. There are no local stops. It goes straight to Iran and Pakistan. That's the kind of society we end up with.
Far better, to EXCLUDE Muslims from all walks of life. Tell them they are nothing, worthless, unworthy, and undeserving. BUT ... if they "prove their love for America" we can provisionally accept them. But only if they PROVE constantly their love for America. By fighting and dying for it.
Posted by: whiskey at May 17, 2010 01:17 PM (L03mw)
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 17, 2010 05:14 PM (Oxen1)
My point is that the use of Westernized Muslim women as a casus belli for the Islamic jihadists is decades old. They hate us because we would let their women be seen in Daisy Dukes and bikinis, and when their women succumb to that temptation, they kill them.
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:18 PM (7AOgy)
That was one target rich environment with that picture of her on the stage at the pole dancing tournament. Not one dude in the pic. All women.
Posted by: CDR M at May 17, 2010 05:16 PM (5I8G0)
Which begs another question. What type of bar was it since if there was one single male present he would have been up front slobbering all over the stage.
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 01:19 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 05:16 PM (Qp4DT)
If Gretchen said it once on Fox & Friends, she's said it 100 times.
Posted by: alppuccino at May 17, 2010 01:19 PM (YfqPv)
We didn't have a lot of option, you know.
Posted by: shakers at May 17, 2010 05:16 PM (4WbTI)
Episcapolians.
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 17, 2010 01:20 PM (xxgag)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 17, 2010 05:16 PM (mR7mk)
Like Bess Myerson?
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:20 PM (7AOgy)
"Unchaste Westernised whore who carries the title of Bride of the Great Satan? Truly, shahid, Allah shall award double bonus points for the stoning of this apostate. "
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 17, 2010 01:20 PM (+61wI)
Wow, you must have A LOT of free time on your hands.
Better get yourself comfortable. With that wait and all.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 17, 2010 05:16 PM (pLTLS)
Oh come on. Stompy boot modeling, sammich making, and lap dancing. You're a shoe-in! Should we add snarking to the competitions?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 01:21 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 17, 2010 01:21 PM (bbn3s)
Posted by: Faisal Shahzad in a skirt at May 17, 2010 01:22 PM (7b1Uc)
Look at the upside - if she's Muslim, you get to marry 4 just like her, if you can afford it.
And let's face it, all of the contestants appeal, on some primitive level, to a healthy male. It has to be a tough job to be a judge. Just ask Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: Whitehall at May 17, 2010 01:23 PM (htrmr)
If her family truly are devout Muslims, then I'm anticipating the honor killing of their whore daughter when she goes home to visit.
It might not end up being her family. Any Abdul that can get to her first wins the prize.
I certainly hope that does not happen, but we've seen it before.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:23 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: robtr at May 17, 2010 01:25 PM (fwSHf)
The Midas Touch, that one.
Posted by: alppuccino at May 17, 2010 01:25 PM (YfqPv)
I certainly hope that does not happen, but we've seen it before.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 05:23 PM (P33XN)
Why not? Killing a gorgeous beauty contest winner might be exactly what we need to start a pogrom against the Muslims.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 01:25 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: shakers at May 17, 2010 01:26 PM (4WbTI)
Any Abdul that can get to her first wins the prize.
I'm waiting for Barry to take away her title in the name of national security as she is now a bigger terrorist recruiter than GITMO.
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 17, 2010 01:27 PM (Oxen1)
it's just the muzzies' turn now. It was AA for black girls at Miss America for the last several years. now it's muslims, and at some point (HOPEFULLY) we can get some of the more curvaceous members of the hispanic community to get a sop now and again. Then it's on to the asians.
She's a fine looking young woman, and certainly not outside the realm of reasonableness. More to the point is that they are now using cheap political set-ups to make people think the Miss USA is relevant.
It will only get more shameless and manipulated from here on out.
Posted by: s'moron at May 17, 2010 01:29 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 05:19 PM (t72+4)
--Not only that but most of the chicks in the audience are wearing less than she is.
Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2010 01:30 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 05:00 PM (mHQ7T)
This is the Moron Nation, it says that right on page one of the handbook.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 17, 2010 01:30 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:31 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: negentropy at May 17, 2010 01:32 PM (0KSSX)
Posted by: logprof at May 17, 2010 05:30 PM (Mmw0q)
Yeah, she's wearing a t-shirt and shorts, for crying out loud. And no men present. I smell a rat.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 17, 2010 01:32 PM (1fanL)
Why not? Killing a gorgeous beauty contest winner might be exactly what we need to start a pogrom against the Muslims.
You think that would do it? I don't. I think the media would just sweep that right under the rug with all the other fundy outrages. As long as there's a working television set in this country, the media will be on it lying their asses off.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2010 01:33 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 17, 2010 05:00 PM (mHQ7T)"
Hey there, wanna chat? A/S/L?
Posted by: Elena Kagan at May 17, 2010 01:34 PM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Blazer at May 17, 2010 05:19 PM (t72+4)
It looks like the Foxhole to me.
Posted by: Dr Remy "Thirteen" Hadley, M.D. at May 17, 2010 01:34 PM (7b1Uc)
Posted by: negentropy at May 17, 2010 05:32 PM (0KSSX)
Thread winner!
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at May 17, 2010 01:34 PM (YVZlY)
Hey there, wanna chat? A/S/L?
Posted by: Elena Kagan at May 17, 2010 05:34 PM (F26eZ)
In her case, "Anal Strap-On Lesbian."
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:36 PM (7AOgy)
This is another feel-good media construct that's supposed to make us all join hands and refuse to support another second of these dreadful wars that we started for no good reason.
Posted by: Llarry at May 17, 2010 01:36 PM (vW888)
Posted by: reason at May 17, 2010 01:37 PM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at May 17, 2010 01:37 PM (ijjAe)
Look at the upside - if she's Muslim, you get to marry 4 just like her, if you can afford it.
Posted by: Whitehall at May 17, 2010 05:23 PM (htrmr)
You definitely do NOT want four just like her. They will be at each other's throats all the time. You want to marry one like her every ten years until you have a collection of four.
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:38 PM (7AOgy)
She tripped on her gown. She won an amateur-night strippers contest (of which there are numerous pictures). She is a semi-literate inarticulate clown in a hot babe suit, and there's still so much you aren't sure about?
Grow a spine, for god's sake!
Posted by: Gryph at May 17, 2010 01:41 PM (v/0ES)
Man who believed Jesus Christ was a "prophet" kills Miss USA.
By Susan Candiotti, CNN
May 17, 2011 12:38 p.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Oppression and pro-Christian sexual frustration are being looked at as a cause of the beheading of last year's Miss USA winner as the alleged murder was known to belong to a religious sect that believes Jesus Christ is a "prophet". Tea Party links are also being investigated but have so far yielded no solid clues. [click link for further details]
Posted by: CNN future news at May 17, 2010 01:42 PM (7b1Uc)
Miss OK was a hottie.
Posted by: VKI at May 17, 2010 01:42 PM (LZK9H)
Posted by: Ken Royall at May 17, 2010 01:44 PM (9zzk+)
Posted by: VKI at May 17, 2010 05:42 PM (LZK9H)
They (SJP and Julia) photograph well once they are properly made up. They also do "coquettish" effectively. But their faces don't have natural, classical beauty.
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 01:47 PM (7AOgy)
You definitely do NOT want four just like her. They will be at each other's throats all the time. You want to marry one like her every ten years until you have a collection of four.
Posted by: stuiec
at May 17, 2010 05:38 PM (7AOgy)
Hell's bells, you couldn't afford four just like her - womyn like that tend to be a bit high-maintenance.
Posted by: antisocialist at May 17, 2010 01:47 PM (Rwudm)
They (SJP and Julia) photograph well once they are properly made up. They also do "coquettish" effectively. But their faces don't have natural, classical beauty.
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 05:47 PM (7AOgy)
SJP is a real horse-face. She had a nice body for a little while, but nothing you couldn't find in 3 minutes on any beach. Julia Roberts has a monster ass. Neither were particularly good looking, but once directors and studios were intent on putting them into every movie, there was nothing that could be done. They were forced on America.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 01:50 PM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 17, 2010 01:50 PM (S1Ttj)
Hell's bells, you couldn't afford four just like her - womyn like that tend to be a bit high-maintenance.
Posted by: antisocialist at May 17, 2010 05:47 PM (Rwudm)
She's a friggin' pole dancer - or a pole dancer wannabe (which is even more pathetic). Just keep a wad of ones around and there won't be any problems.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 17, 2010 01:52 PM (Qp4DT)
If the Hezbolla question was asked you can bet your bottom dollar the the personc asking the question would have been the one targeted for scorn and ridicule not the babe.
and yes I'd hit that like kagen at a clambake.
Posted by: Bosk at May 17, 2010 01:52 PM (pUO5u)
That's right, I said "fie"!
That doesn't mean she shouldn't have been asked about terrorism, especially if others are going to be asked about immigration or same sex marriage.
But she's hot, and not in that "smoking-crater-after-a-Muslim-detonates-their-bomb-belt" sort of way.
Posted by: Kensington at May 17, 2010 01:59 PM (aDdAT)
and donald trump...i am still in amazement that this man has truckloads of cash. every time ive seen him in interviews and what not he comes off like an imbecile.
life...it all works in opposites.
Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at May 17, 2010 01:59 PM (SlvZ2)
Posted by: Kensington at May 17, 2010 02:01 PM (aDdAT)
Posted by: schnappsdragon at May 17, 2010 02:04 PM (4WbTI)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 17, 2010 05:50 PM (S1Ttj)
Mrmmph blrrrgl gunnngh... [blood runs from mouth]
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 02:04 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: Kensington at May 17, 2010 06:01 PM (aDdAT)
The correct non-answer is, "I just hope that someday we all learn how to get along and co-exist in a world of tolerance and mutual respect."
Posted by: stuiec at May 17, 2010 02:05 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: outofthis world at May 17, 2010 02:06 PM (PEFmX)
Far better, to EXCLUDE Muslims from all walks of life. Tell them they are nothing, worthless, unworthy, and undeserving. BUT ... if they "prove their love for America" we can provisionally accept them. But only if they PROVE constantly their love for America. By fighting and dying for it.
That's been my theory of coercive compliance or "weed and seed" with America's moose-limb population since about 2002.
The ones that do not really reject terrror loving aspects of Islam will eventually leave. The ones that do reject the old world ways get welcomed, but ultimately everyone is tested.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 17, 2010 02:16 PM (oIp16)
I always knew Trump was a huckster, but his continued politicization of this contest is just evil.
First he hires Perez Hilton, now the Latino guy, knowing full well he's going to get a controversy out of it. A controversy that makes a certain class of people look bad. A certain American class of people look bad.
For the Muslim woman--nothing.
I actually fear for her once her "brothers" see her halal behavior.
Posted by: PJ at May 17, 2010 02:18 PM (Pzd/r)
Since she is running around in a string bikini I suspect that Hezbollah means very little to her.
Just a guess - I could be wrong.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at May 17, 2010 02:20 PM (gzjX3)
If Debbie Schussel was quoted to say the sky was blue, I'd go out and check its color first. She really is bugnuts, and has a habit of threatening to sue people for saying bad things about her, or for even linking her posts without her permission.
Save yer braincells and stay off that chimp's website.
She's a Grade A nutbar, in my unprofessional opinion.
Posted by: Kristopher at May 17, 2010 02:23 PM (kCEOg)
Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at May 17, 2010 02:33 PM (yp7DP)
She is beautiful, and American, and that should be enough.
"I'd hit it."
Posted by: ParisParamus at May 17, 2010 02:34 PM (GgR+e)
A pole-dancing hot muzzie chick, that is my type of muzzie.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 17, 2010 02:37 PM (7VvJB)
Posted by: t-bird at May 17, 2010 02:41 PM (FcR7P)
Now you tell me!
Posted by: rachel maddow's missing middle finger at May 17, 2010 02:43 PM (7b1Uc)
Say what you want about Schlussel, she is an expert on this issue and she knows what she is talking about. You can play the "c" card all you want and call her crazy, but have yet to give an example. She is right on this one and has been on many Islamic stories. She has yet to be refuted on this or most of her Islamic scoops. Michelle Malkin, terrorism expert. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the funniest thing I've heard in a week.
Posted by: John Hunter at May 17, 2010 02:50 PM (vh3Rp)
Posted by: exceller at May 17, 2010 02:55 PM (Z7Znk)
Posted by: Jean at May 17, 2010 02:56 PM (CPefM)
Forget her being a Muslim, the girl thinks that birth control is a "controlled substance." I'm thinking she probably had no friggin clue what she was talking about, and thought 'birth control' ...plus, she stumbled over her gown.
Still, she is pretty gorgeous.
Posted by: EmilyM. at May 17, 2010 03:07 PM (BuL+A)
John (that is, Debbie)
MM is not an expert, but she at least mentions and verifies sources who are. Schussel has been flat out wrong on so many accuastions it ain't funny. Like how the VT shooter was a Paki.
Ace quoted her on something a few years back, and 15 minutes of checking showed her to be exactly wrong (I believe she was ragging on "arabs" in Dearborn in the context of Islamis terrorism that turned out to be Lebanese Christians).
She shoots first, usually through her own demented point of view, and never admits to errors. She's teh looney female, anti-Islam version of Chuckie Johnson.
Posted by: s'moron at May 17, 2010 03:07 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Zombie Harry Carey at May 17, 2010 03:07 PM (Mmw0q)
And after reviewing the tape here, I have to say that I LOVE the fire in Miss OK eyes while hispano-douche is asking his retardo question.
Girl's got spine.
Posted by: s'moron at May 17, 2010 03:15 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: sTevo at May 17, 2010 03:17 PM (zIUsq)
OK, so maybe marrying four like her is NOT such a great idea.
Would I be better off with four Mormons as wives?
How about two and two? Could be some interesting theological discussions over the kitchen sink or while they're team-baking my favorite oatmeal-hashish cookies?
Posted by: Whitehall at May 17, 2010 03:19 PM (htrmr)
Come on, all beauty contestants need to make statements about world peace. Arab peace trumps Cinco peace.
Posted by: sTevo at May 17, 2010 03:24 PM (zIUsq)
Posted by: Zombie Steve McNair at May 17, 2010 03:32 PM (CPefM)
As I said in the comments last night, if you missed the Q&A section, you were really missing something. Miss Michigan stumbled, both literally and figuratively, onstage. Now she is found to have been a participant (winner?) of a local "stripper" contest.
Unless the holier than thou Miss Universe organization kicks her to the curb, promptly replacing her with Miss Oklahoma, their known hypocrisy will be an open wound for all to pour salt into.
At least Miss America was required to have a talent, and a bit of class. And, for that, the primary award was a formal education.
Anything associated with Trump is pure crap and after fucking over the folks who purchased property in his Mexican residential development I've lost all taste for him.
However, I must reveal my own hypocrisy because, although this is the first year I've watched the show...I am hoping Bret Michaels kicks ass on the t.v. show.
Bret Michaels for Miss Universe!
Posted by: jmflynny at May 17, 2010 03:37 PM (AFdck)
177 Helpful hint: You know a blog may be headed for Big Purple Baseballs territory...
"Big Purple Baseballs" what's that mean?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 17, 2010 03:38 PM (oIp16)
Is she on the Celebrity Death Pool yet, and if not, why not?
Posted by: TXMarko at May 17, 2010 03:43 PM (USlgP)
@9: "Considering her smoking little body...."
Many of My most fervent followers have smoking bodies and cause smoking bodies in others.
Posted by: Mohammed (PBUM) at May 17, 2010 03:46 PM (kmEfr)
Posted by: steevy at May 17, 2010 03:55 PM (RmT05)
One is petty and racist. The other is a legitimate question.
Posted by: Palooka at May 17, 2010 04:06 PM (SEkmV)
Has she had her clit clicked?
Why wasn't the mutilation of Muslim women a question.
She still got her clitoris? Guess she lives in the USA.
Posted by: Kemp at May 17, 2010 04:09 PM (2+9Yx)
She was BORN in Lebanon? I'm sorry, shouldn't Miss USA be, I don't know, BORN IN THE USA?!!
And Kemp, yes that would have been an excellent question.
Posted by: CattusMagnus at May 17, 2010 04:20 PM (1RgQ+)
"Big Purple Baseballs" what's that mean?
There once as a blog called 'little green footballs' where a bunch of conservatives hung out. The blog owner got tired of us talking about our guns, clinging to our religion, all that shiat and switched alliances. Sort of like Benedict Arlen Specter. Not too many people visit that blog anymore.Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 17, 2010 07:55 PM (IhHdM)
An LGF reference.
OK, thanks, got it!
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at May 17, 2010 04:22 PM (oIp16)
Posted by: Former Miss America, Gretchen Carlsson, Former Miss America at May 17, 2010 05:14 PM (YfqPv)
Omg, this is too funny and so true. She never misses an opportunity to tell everyone this, and it drives me up the fucking wall.
Posted by: Nicole at May 17, 2010 04:27 PM (CH1cF)
Wait til the "religion of peace" adherents get ahold her of stripper video and her less than modest decolletage. I'm sure she'll end up getting stoned and beheaded..
Posted by: sladenyv at May 17, 2010 04:30 PM (saiGq)
Posted by: John at May 17, 2010 04:41 PM (Z9NZo)
Posted by: Kerry at May 17, 2010 04:42 PM (Z0EF7)
Anyone posted the pole-dancing video yet? I just got here and am tacking this on in case you want to see it. Enquiring Morons want to know.m You know who this benefits, don't you? Miss Oklahoma!
Posted by: RushBabe at May 17, 2010 04:45 PM (W8m8i)
Posted by: Bill at May 17, 2010 05:01 PM (KFiAf)
That will be an interesting news cycle.
Posted by: DrZin at May 17, 2010 05:02 PM (nXbmM)
Posted by: jmflynny at May 17, 2010 05:04 PM (AFdck)
Make no mistake. The dung eating leftist assmoochers running this sham pagent asked Miss Okla. that question for the express purpose of finding a way to eliminate her from the competition. That is why I never watch that crap.They can shove their politacally correct sham up their well greased asses.
Posted by: maddogg at May 17, 2010 05:04 PM (4zspv)
I suspect Debbie is just pissed because Miss Michigan is a bazillion times hotter than she ever was, and will probably go farther in life than she ever did.
Oh, and I love that decades-old glamor shot of herself on her site. If you've seen her recently, she looks like the north end of a southbound baboon.
(and BTW, don't you dare criticize her or she'll call homeland security on you!!!)
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at May 17, 2010 05:07 PM (IoUF1)
The more the media play up her muslim religion the more of a problem for her this is going to be. The muslim terrorists are pretty equal opportunity fanatics. and if they figure that she has brought shame to Islam (via the pics of her pole dancing with dollar bills stuffed in her shirt, the pageant itself as well as other stuff that will no doubt come out) she'll become fair game for these bastards.
By the by, does anyone know what her question was?
Posted by: scr_north at May 17, 2010 05:24 PM (sqsKs)
Posted by: Scrapiron at May 17, 2010 05:25 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: investigator at May 17, 2010 05:49 PM (FRQsi)
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:28 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:30 PM (TUBcJ)
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:31 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:37 PM (TUBcJ)
Carmac McCarthy? No clue???
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:40 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:41 PM (TUBcJ)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:43 PM (TUBcJ)
Not in the same league as Roth.
"We Were The Mulvaneys" and lots of other college crap....
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:45 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:45 PM (TUBcJ)
Posted by: Pelayo at May 17, 2010 06:46 PM (C8qIl)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:51 PM (TUBcJ)
Sounds like old guys to me? Trying to remember, but O'Henry sucked in my humble opinion.
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:52 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: cackfinger at May 17, 2010 06:55 PM (TUBcJ)
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 06:58 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: raykon at May 17, 2010 07:01 PM (tpNcN)
Posted by: hachie1 at May 17, 2010 07:07 PM (FXtu9)
Posted by: Hasaan Lieberstien at May 18, 2010 06:32 AM (k7Ddt)
1. If I watch a meat rack it's gonna be comprised of males.
2. Beauty pagents have morphed into a political platform for leftwing/La Raza/GLBT/race-baiting bullshit, where the questions are framed to elicit PC responses from like-minded bimbos or exploit the "wrong answers" given by contestants who won't tow the party line.
3. I agree with Daniel Pipes.
Posted by: SFC MAC at May 18, 2010 07:06 AM (RPkOk)
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