1 deja vu

2 Figure it may be a lowball poll by a few more points, too.

3

A double shot of ace love.

4 I am fully committed to supporting any half gallon of sour milk that is running against any democrat in any race.

That's how much I despise the democrats.

5 I think your clarification belongs in the previous post, just to clarify.

6 Rush mentioned that she was closer to the "bearded Marxist" that Scott Brown was to Martha Cocks-ley during this same time.

7 Unpopularity does not always come from the right.

http://tinyurl.com/2uh39u3

8 The real key there, though, is Republican voters. The first poll out of the gate suggested that a large majority of Castle voters would not vote for O'Donnell. That seems incredibly stupid to me, but there it is. If you won't vote for a member of your own party, it doesn't seem like Obama's popularity is going to be a very big factor.

9


ah, all is right in the world.  The earth spins on its axis, the sun travels the sky, and ace double posts.

10 Way to start off the week!, start off the week!

11 Double your pudding, double your funk...

12 Obama needs to take some refresher classes in witchcraft, because the magic of 2008 is gone.

13 I say it once again, conventional wisdom is out for this election. Mom, Pop, and Joe Sixpack have taken to the streets and are having 600,000 person protests in DC.

The paradigm has shifted. 

14 If you add up the 46% numbers from both posts Obama is at a comfortable 92%. So suck it, wingnuts.

15 w00t!!! Double posting again ... this is the AoSHQ we know and love.

Now pour me another shot of Valu-Rite while I finish field dressing this hobo, will ya.

16 O'Donnell has raised $1.9 million dollars

It's highly likely that Sarah Palin is going to do some retail politicking in DE for O'Donnell

Chris Coons is a loser in a party of losers. If Russ Feingold IS really down double-digits against a wealthy who's-he Republican capitalist, O'Donnell is going to win going away.

O/T   TMZ - 'Dancing' Studio on Red Sarah Palin Alert"  LINK

17 13 Obama needs to take some refresher classes in witchcraft, because the magic of 2008 is gone.

Posted by: Ben at September 20, 2010 01:35 PM (wuv1c)

HA!

18

Spending on historic levels, greasing the unions and favored consitutencies with tax funds, golf every day, massive new federal regulation, enemies who laugh at us, allies who can't trust us, Wagyu beef and celebrity parties in the White House, double-digit unemployment, a FLOTUS who considers her privileged position to be a "sacrifice", a Vice President who's a barely-functional retard, a politicized Justice Department, a leftard mutant androgyne and a Wise Latina on the Supreme Court. 

Hey, what's not to like?

19 Double dipping just like the recession.

20 For Ace.

21 They just need to hire a few more fainters and sprinkle them around at Obama events, and everything will be fine.

22 > 4 I am fully committed to supporting any half gallon of sour milk that is running against any democrat in any race. Posted by: shibumi Support? Hell, I'll DRINK* a half-gallon of sour milk. *offer void where prohibited by law or where it would gross me out.

23 Witches?  Shit I love witches, they have the best blow!

24 3

A double shot of ace love.

Ewwwww.

25 If O'Donnell is to ever win elected office in Delaware, this is probably her year.

26 So I guess this means we'll be looking at more "this [X] makes me feel like buying some horse tranquilizers and some duct tape and heading over to [Y candidate's] house for some light convo and bondage" headlines?

Hehehe...

27 Heh.  Video over at RCP.

Obama voter at townhall today:

"I'm one of your middle class Americans. And quite frankly, I'm exhausted. Exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that I voted for," a woman told President Obama at a town hall.

28 So Obama is underwater, but didn't announce a new program for that.

29 17 Wisconsin is not Delaware. O'Donnell is no Ron Johnson.

Johnson is doing well in WI specifically because he has not been touted as a Tea Party guy.

30 #21

Shit, damn good!  My senior year, when a "double shot" was still a possibility!

31 Rush thinks the questions were not expected.  nah it was too smooth for it not to have been totally choreographed.

32 Hmmm... Obama Underwater in Delaware If he sinks, he's not a witch.

33 "I am speaking against my financial interests..." GTFO Teleprompter Jesus, you are set for life.

34 Double bubble,
Toil and trouble,
The bearded Marxist
Now has razor stubble.

35 I'll stop masturbating if she wins.

Wait...yeah, that won't happen.

36

I cannot abide the idea of someone as flawed as Christine O'Donnell serving as a U.S. Senator.  We have certain standards of behavior and decorum that must be upheld at all times or we risk losing the confidence of the people.

Oh shit, here comes the guy with the pitchfork again.

37 Ace, it has always been "coin-flip" possible.  Now it's more like "roll a 6, 7 or 8 on two six sided dice" possible.

38

Looking at the rap sheets and dubious accomplishments of the people within the halls of power these days, I think a delinquent-paying once nature worshipper (pantheist?) just doesn't look that bad.  Why not take a flier on someone who you know is an outsider? 

(Insiders get sweet below-cost mortgage deals with flexible payment schedules and worship Baal.) 

Don't be a wicaphobic witchist, you racists. 

 

39 Not the D-Word!!!

40 Wait. Isn't PPP the outfit that fed Kos rosey numbers? How can we trust them?

41 Like Captain Mal says"She's our witch".

As I think about it there are a lot of ways to spin that into a positive thing.

42 37 Ted Kennedy's only two attributes were his name and his ability to swim.

43

O'Donnell has raised $1.9 million dollars

That is kinda crazy considering Joe Miller had a money bomb yesterday and only got 100K or so.

I think it is much more important that Joe Miller gets in the senate that O'Donnell.

I would be happy with both, but if i had to choose I am going with Miller. And his race just became a whole lot tighter.

Personally I think Miller just needs to take the audio or video snippet of Murkowski endorsing him after she lost, put it in a commerical and replay it with the tag line, "Joe Miller, endorsed for this senate seat by Lisa Meerhousekee".

44 Americans Always Do Things Wrong

An American soldier, serving in World War II, had just returned from several weeks of intense action on the German front lines. He had finally been granted R&R and was on a train bound for London. The train was very crowded, so the soldier walked the length of the train, looking for an empty seat. The only unoccupied seat was directly adjacent to a well dressed middle aged lady and was being used by her little dog.

The war weary soldier asked, “Please, ma’am, may I sit in that seat?” The English woman looked down her nose at the soldier, sniffed and said, “You Americans. You are such a rude class of people. Can’t you see my Little Fifi is using that seat?”

The soldier walked away, determined to find a place to rest, but after another trip down to the end of the train, found himself again facing the woman with the dog. Again he asked, “Please, lady. May I sit there? I’m very tired.”

The English woman wrinkled her nose and snorted, “You Americans! Not only are you rude, you are also arrogant. Imagine!”

The soldier didnÂ’t say anything else; he leaned over, picked up the little dog, tossed it out the window of the train and sat down in the empty seat. The woman shrieked and railed, and demanded that someone defend her and chastise the soldier.

An English gentleman sitting across the aisle spoke up, “You know, sir, you Americans do seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You eat holding the fork in the wrong hand. You drive your autos on the wrong side of the road. And now, sir, you’ve thrown the wrong bitch out the window

45 Posted by: parisparamuss at September 20, 2010 01:42 PM (OtagK)

I don't trust any of the polls even the so called "republican polls"....i go by what I'm seeing in the streets and hearing in places like home depot and wally mart...

46 >41 Wait. Isn't PPP the outfit that fed Kos rosey numbers? How can we trust them?



They've gotten better.

47 You know, if she was CURRENTLY a witch, but not a Republican, the Left would be screaming 'religious tolerance' and touting her as the ultimate candidate.

48 41 No, that was Research 2000. PPP is democratically leaning, but generally respected, despite getting NY-23 so wrong last year.

49 In the future, Ex-Presidente Zero will sit in his little room in the mental hospital and repeat over and over......Teaparty, Teaparty, Teaparty....

50 Wait. Isn't PPP the outfit that fed Kos rosey numbers? How can we trust them?

We can't.  But we may as well prop up the good news and build the wave.

51 Coons also raised property taxes by 25%.  I don't care how blue your state is, that's not something you want to broadcast.

52 > 38 Ace, it has always been "coin-flip" possible. Now it's more like "roll a 6, 7 or 8 on two six sided dice" possible. Posted by: AllenG Coin-flip = 50% Roll 6-8 = 44.4%

53

<i>Way to start off the week!, start off the week!</i>

Ace:   ,,,mea culpa...mea culpa...

54 47, no they are prostitutes with preference for leftist clients. I want to see sine other polling.

55 #46

LOL!!

56 Compare this to 56% approval in Maryland. Is this themost pro Barack state on the union?

57 Got! Damn!  My comment was irrespective of DE.  Really.  I'm being completely honest about that.  I left DE behind last night.  That's why you never got a response from me after you responded to my question, because I wasn't even talking about DE specifically, but you brought it into the answer and didn't even answer my question.  But this post does, so I think I know what stage you're in, now.  So thank you.

We have a seat being kept warm by Herr Morgenholz's assless chaps.  I hope you like porters.

58
I think another pertinent question is: How popular is Joe Biden in DE?

If Joe's still popular, why didn't Beau Biden run for his seat?

And why hasn't anyone reminded people about Joe Biden's other son being a corrupt lobbyist?

59 Let the healing begin!

I'd like to propose a satanic orgy on election night.  Bring pudding.

60 50 In the future, Ex-Presidente Zero will sit in his little room in the mental hospital and repeat over and over......Teaparty, Teaparty, Teaparty....

Posted by: maddogg at September 20, 2010 01:45 PM (OlN4e)

Yeah, kind like Inspector Dreyfus at the end of The Pink Panther.

61 Aha! Admit you were wrong, ace, about everything we've ever disagreed about!

Admit it!

62 Isn't PPP the outfit that fed Kos rosey numbers?

No.  That was D2K.  Kos fired them and hired PPP.  PPP isn't going to fudge results for Kos, but they will embargo them.  That's exactly what they did last week - they had the COD loses to Coons numbers in the bag but waited until after the voting was over to spring them.

63 I don't trust any of the polls even the so called "republican polls"....i go by what I'm seeing in the streets and hearing in places like home depot and wally mart... Posted by: curious at September 20, 2010 01:44 PM (p302b)

Ahh, Now I understand you.

64 #58

WTF?  Inside baseball? 

65 The trend is certainly going our way, but it's not like we had anything to do with that.  Obama, a blithering buffoon of baffling proportion, keeps doubling down on stupid and then redoubling.  It's as if he can't stop himself.

In DE, many of the Castle voters will come around on their own, but an endorsement would help speed the process up and get more of them on board.  It's the classy thing to do.  And it's the way to unify the party after a bitter and divisive primary.  Castle should man up and do the right thing, but since he hasn't on his own yet, O'Donnell should call him and ask him for it.  You can mend the fence from either side.

Of course, it doesn't help that so many of her out-of-state supporters are crazed lunatics who want to kill all the RINOs . . .

66 BTW, anyone seen this recent pic of Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/25hozaz

Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!"

67 I stand corrected re PPP. Apologies. While I have a readership if eleven,defamation is still wrong.

68 Guy Fawkes @28, you can hear the rage she's holding in so she can say everything she wanted to say. Excellent video!

69 how long does it take to repair a wedding ring?

70
We have a seat being kept warm by Herr Morgenholz's assless chaps.  I hope you like porters.

Haha.  Very funny.

Though it is true that we could run my pasty white asscheeks against Harry Reid and win handily.

71

"Obama Underwater in Delaware"

Reads:

"Obama Underwear in Delawater"

72 Ace, it has always been "coin-flip" possible. Now it's more like "roll a 6, 7 or 8 on two six sided dice" possible. -- you can admit here, you still have your own 8 sided die.

73 I don't trust any of the polls even the so called "republican polls"....i go by what I'm seeing in the streets and hearing in places like home depot and wally mart...
Posted by: curious

Based on the comments from all your nitwit leftist friends that you relay to us, I'm pretty sure you're the resident expert on what ill-informed, dipshit Obama lovers think.

74 how long does it take to repair a wedding ring? Posted by: curious at September 20, 2010 01:51 PM (p302b) Hey give the guy a break. It's a long way to Mt. Doom and it is not like Sauron uses Fedex?

75 re: Dancing with the stars, Palin, increased security, etc.

Sarah will be front and center tonight when Bristol dances to "Mama Told Me (Not to Come)" with partner Mark Ballas.

Wrong or not, the song choice for her dance is a pretty good one.

76 Possible footage from Christine O'Donnell's "date"? http://tinyurl.com/27p3e83 (Actually, it's just a Kids in the Hall sketch I always kinda liked)

77 they are going to get to a point where they have no choice but to layoff government employees.  the private sector as it is is on life support.

78 67 BTW, anyone seen this recent pic of Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/25hozaz

Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!"

Posted by: Chris R at September 20, 2010 01:50 PM (AO4qz)

It's the old okey-doke!

Hasn't Barack X actually used that line, more than once?

79

BTW, anyone seen this recent pic of Obama:

Notice that Mr. Sophistication apparently can't actually tie a bow tie.  He uses a pre-tied one with his tux.  I wonder if his shoes have velcro instead of laces.

I know Joe Biden's do.

 

80 front's comin'.......

( without ass chaps )

81 67 BTW, anyone seen this recent pic of Obama:

http://tinyurl.com/25hozaz

Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!"

Posted by: Chris R at September 20, 2010 01:50 PM (AO4qz)

Make ya think, X marks the spot.

http://tinyurl.com/32xyhx7

82 70 how long does it take to repair a wedding ring?


Usually it won't get fixed until the divorce is finalized 

83 That is kinda crazy considering Joe Miller had a money bomb yesterday and only got 100K or so.

I think it is much more important that Joe Miller gets in the senate that O'Donnell.

I would be happy with both, but if i had to choose I am going with Miller. And his race just became a whole lot tighter.

This x 1000

Every dollar that wen't to DE could've just as well been flushed down the commode.  There are at least 8 races more worthy of attention and contributions.

There's a reason Rasmussen has DE in the "solid Dem" category (and this after a post-primary bump), and it's not because he's an elitist establishment RINO traitor.  It's because that's how the voters of DE are responding to the race.

Obama's approval could drop to 1%, but that doesn't necessarily translate into a vote for any individual Republican candidate.

84 front's comin'.......

( without ass chaps )

Then I hardly take it seriously.

85 Posted by: Warden at September 20, 2010 01:52 PM (fE6tn)

I'm taking one for the team....no seriously, these are the "people in my neighborhood, the people I see every day"....they are working twice as hard as their moms and dad and their money is worth less and they are exhausted.  But they refuse to give up that hope....it's just misdirected.

86 Oops- meant to say:  There are at least 8 Senate races more worthy of attention and contributions.

87 Chaps by their nature are assless.

88 We can't.  But we may as well prop up the good news and build the wave.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 20, 2010 01:46 PM (L8kaT)

Damn  !! Finally someone gets it.  

Build the wave, dudes; build the wave and it will wash away the Scum

89

"I wonder if his shoes have velcro instead of laces."

Dear God, let them not be Smurf shoes

90 Time to buy more popcorn futures!

91 I think you have to factor in that much like Bush's low approval numbers was at least partly due to him not being conservative enough on certain issues, so too are Obama's low numbers due at least in part to some people thinking he isn't liberal enough for them (they want single-payer healthcare, for instance).

92 That is kinda crazy considering Joe Miller had a money bomb yesterday and only got 100K or so.

Thats good for Alaska. There's just a bit of difference in airtime costs between Anchorage and Philadelphia.

93 As everyone on the Castle side of things says

ARRRHHGGGG!!! NO NOT AGAIN!!!

Hummm! Hummm! Hummmm!
I'M NOT LISTENING!!!

I don't know if it's coinflip possible but it may be better than longshot possible.

OK I can dig that.

94

As I recall, one of the cob loggers cited the 62% Ogabe got in DE as the reason She -Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named could not possibly win there..

...this sorta changes things up a bit, dontcha think?

95

Every dollar that wen't to DE could've just as well been flushed down the commode.  There are at least 8 races more worthy of attention and contributions.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 01:54 PM (plsiE)

Its not your money. You don't get to spend it how you like.

96 how long does it take to repair a wedding ring?

Depends on how hard your wife hit your mistress.

97 What kind of witch doesn't masturbate?  It makes no sense.

98

I was going to write, Hey, maybe, but Obama's not that unpopular in Delaware.

But instead of writing that I looked it up.

That poll result has been out there since last Wednesday.  And yes, it is very significant: Delaware is as fed up with Obama as a lot of other blue states are.

And the paradox is that because everybody knew Castle was a shoo-in, the Democrats put up a weak sacrificial lamb to run against him.  So in a wave year, against a candidate like Coons, O'Donnell is in with a chance.

99 Chaps by their nature are assless.

Posted by: mastour at September 20, 2010 01:55 PM (vcqQv)

Or, conversely, asses are by their nature chap-less

100   

4. Politicized hiring and firing: Coons is running as a good-government liberal who will clean up Washington, promising to introduce a law restricting lobbying by former lawmakers. But as county executive, Coons engineered the dismissal of a political opponentÂ’s brother in a manner that, had a Republican done it, would have prompted liberals to cry scandal. In 2004, Coons beat Sherry Freebery in the Democratic primary for county executive. FreeberyÂ’s brother, a county manager, had supported her campaign. When Coons took office, he pushed state lawmakers to change the status of county managers from merit-based positions to political appointments, according to the News Journal. As soon as the legislature made the change, Coons fired FreeberyÂ’s brother. This kind of thing formed the basis of the allegations of politicized hiring and firing against George W. BushÂ’s Justice Department and against Sarah Palin as governor of Alaska, but Coons apparently gets a pass because heÂ’s a Democrat.

101 I am convinced that this election is so emotional for so many people that it is impossible to accurately forecast what will happen exactly.

102 Obama needs to take some refresher classes in witchcraft, because the magic of 2008 is gone.

Hey I was sure that adding the balls of a Newt would make the spell last.

103 Remember, you get half-credit for every Dem voter you just get to stay home and not vote...it you get to just stay home and not vote...

104 http://3.ly/q6BX

105 67 BTW, anyone seen this recent pic of Obama:   http://tinyurl.com/25hozaz

Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!"

Posted by: Chris R at September 20, 2010 01:50 PM (AO4qz)

He looks like a black Pee Wee Herman.

Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!"

106 What kind of witch doesn't masturbate?  It makes no sense.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at September 20, 2010 01:57 PM (YMZjg)

Come on.  Witches don't need to masturbate.  They have a vast array of incubi and greater and lesser demons just waiting to fulfill their every need.

107 Just a heads up on the big PPP  poll of the day:

Boxer at 50% Over Fiorina in California

Raleigh, N.C. – California is the rare state that appears to have no enthusiasm gap.Compared to their GOP counterparts, Democrats in the Golden State are just as enthused about voting as they were in 2008. In that environment, Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer is no less endangered for re-election than she was in PPP’s last survey of r egistered voters in July. She led Carly Fiorina by a 49-40 margin then, and now tops her, 50-42, in PPP’s first survey of likely California voters.

What has changed is that Boxer now trails among independents, 38-50, after winning them 48-38 last time. Fiorina also now has a little more of her base locked up than Boxer does of hers, at 86% of the GOP to BoxerÂ’s 81% of Democrats. In July, they each had a 77-13 lead with their respective partisans. Despite the positive trends with independents, if Fiorina simply won all of the remaining undecided independent and Republican voters, she would get no more than 46% of the vote.

Though she only breaks even on the job approval front, at 46-46, Boxer is up from 43-46 in July, and is still better liked than Fiorina, who comes in at 34-42, a slight improvement from JulyÂ’s 28-40. Independents have turned sharply against Boxer, from 40-48 to 34-56, and significantly in favor of Fiorina, from 20-40 to 35-39. Luckily for the senator, unaffiliateds account for only 18% of the electorate, and Democrats, who like her more than previously, are now actually slightly more prevalent than they were in the registered electorate two months ago.

PPP surveyed 630 likely California voters from September 14th to 16th. The margin of error is +/-3.9%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed

PPP 9/20/2010

Very questionable poll.  Has the Democrats getting more popular over the last two months, and 20% of the sample is Hispanic likely voters, which probably aren't  actually voters at all.

108 Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 01:54 PM (plsiE)

Cut it out with the negative waves!

http://tinyurl.com/b3cdol

109

They just don't understand what he is trying to achieve what with their god and their guns, and all.  Once the Very Barry Travelling Vaudeville Comedy Show and Golf Exhibition rolls into town, all will be revealed.

 

110 Every dollar that wen't to DE could've just as well been flushed down the commode.  There are at least 8 races more worthy of attention and contributions.

Americans vote with their dollars, too.

111 Polls....phhhffft!

Okay you Tea-Wingers,

If you like the CrAzY WiTcH so much then YOU go down to Delaware and YOU campaign for her!

BURN THE CRAZY WITCH!!!!!

Now let's moderate this voter revolt...okay?  After all, I may be out of a job if that crazy bitch wins th........ er I mean:

BURN THE DAMN WITCH!!!!

112 Or, conversely, asses are by their nature chap-less


Only if you use lots of lotion Mr. Man!

113 DE is very much like the Philly suburbs voting-wise, to simplify greatly.

They hate socons, so what they prefer is the sweet, sweet lies of "moderate" Democrats who promise fiscal conservatism.  When the Dems don't deliver, they turn back to the GOP.

It is one of the most fiscally sane states in the nation, surprisingly enough and they don't like that little applecart turned over.

Generally-speaking you can count on Generic Democrat polling about 5 points worse than the president, but what O'Donnell has to do now is define Coons.  She's the one with name recognition and now the task is clear.  Glue him to Obama and paint him with all the negative Obama characteristics:

Chicago-style politics
Murky Marxist past
Irresponsible with public funds
Willing to lie about what he wants to do

114 Americans vote with their dollars, too.

Posted by: mrp at September 20, 2010 01:59 PM (HjPtV)

Too bad its only votes with ballots that actually count.

115

"Witches don't need to masturbate."

What if your Familiar doesn't like peanut butter?

116
O/T

Feingold Prepares to Beg Obama for Cock

117 Pisani, dressed in BO orange, is apparently getting inundated with emails from people and I'm gathering he's getting a head ache....guess folks think the CNBS cheerleading and enabling is not good?

118 8 Unpopularity does not always come from the right.

http://tinyurl.com/2uh39u3
Posted by: Giants Fan at September 20, 2010

I love how she asks at the end, "Is this my new reality?" (meaning impending poverty due to O's policies).  Yeah, bitch, it is.  And you voted for it. 

119 Awesome news.

Now all we need is a candidate.... 

120

A post on the state that should not be spoken...?

Well allow me to go o/t here.

I believe he just stepped in it here--

Re the tea partiers, Obama said today, "Identify specifically what you would do. It's not enough to say get control of spending."

Actually, ass, it sort of is. At least for a start since you don't seem to (a) care or (b) have a clue. Sometimes saying STOP! is a very good start.

But if he wants specifics, let's rewind to March 21st of just this year. What a fun reminder to the voters of an already unpopular bill that Dems were advised to not even reference this election cycle.

121 53 - Yeah, my bad.  Bad math day.
Shoulda said: "6+" or maybe "5+"

122 So Obama appears before the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute dinner and decides to leave out "by their Creator" from the "endowed by their Creator" line of the Declaration of Independence.  Maybe he figured that Hispanics are notorious as a group for being atheists and anti-Church.

123 Sestak's fundraiser with BO is in a convention center?

124 remember:

The bigger the cushion
The better the pushin'

Boxer has no cushion in Cali ( so the Evil Witch-Ma'am will lose )

125 100 "Or, conversely, asses are by their nature chap-less"


Not after I get done wiff dem!

Oh snap!

Oh Look! Boy Scouts!  oh swoon...

*falls to his knees and faints*

126 120 8 http://tinyurl.com/2uh39u3
Posted by: Giants Fan at September 20, 2010

I love how she asks at the end, "Is this my new reality?" (meaning impending poverty due to O's policies).  Yeah, bitch, it is.  And you voted for it. 

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 20, 2010 02:02 PM (ZtwUX)

I thought the goofy grin on Barry's face when she first started smacking him around was priceless.

127 They have a vast array of incubi and greater and lesser demons just waiting to fulfill their every need. Posted by: stuiec at September 20, 2010 01:58 PM (7AOgy) Does that go for warlocks also?

128 And it's the way to unify the party after a bitter and divisive primary.  Castle should man up and do the right thing, but since he hasn't on his own yet, O'Donnell should call him and ask him for it.  You can mend the fence from either side.

But instead of trying to mend fences and seek Castle's endosement, COD is instead still taking shots at him: In her debate with Coons a few days ago, she made a comment about "how nice it was to finally have an opponent who stuck to issues" and "was a gentleman". 

129

"Witches don't need to masturbate."

What if your Familiar doesn't like peanut butter?

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at September 20, 2010 02:01 PM (HaYO4)

Try tuna fish.  (Or is that redundant?)

130

Americans vote with their dollars, too.

On election day, the results are judged only by votes cast, not how much money was spent.

There's not an unlimited supply of dollars that people are willing to donate.  Sending money to a candidate that can't win rather than one who might may be a nice little feel-good gesture, but in terms of strategy it's a losing move.

131 also remember:

Whoopi Goldberg  ( not her real name ) first called herself  "Whoopi Cushion"

she switched to "Goldberg" because of the International Zionist Conspiracy

132 Based on the comments from all your nitwit leftist friends that you relay to us, I'm pretty sure you're the resident expert on what ill-informed, dipshit Obama lovers think. Posted by: Warden

Jeeze man, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

133 That's interesting, they sent mary thompson to the citi trading floor and the woman they interviewed basically said she was not happy with BO's little town hall and then mary tried to re frame what the woman said into something positive and the woman said no, that's not what i said.

134 The thing about donations is that people have to be motivated to give them, especially small "money bomb" donations.

They'll reluctantly go out and vote for somebody with the party label, but to give money, that's another kettle of fish, altogether.

"That's another kettle of fish!"

135 Does that go for warlocks also?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 20, 2010 02:04 PM (0GFWk)

Yes, except they go for the succubi and not the incubi.

Reminds me of a compilation album K-Tel Records SHOULD have made: "Music to Succubi."

136

Glue him to Obama and paint him with all the negative Obama characteristics:

Chicago-style politics
Murky Marxist past
Irresponsible with public funds
Willing to lie about what he wants to do

Harry Reid's "pet"...

137 The thing about donations is that people have to be motivated to give them, especially small "money bomb" donations.

They'll reluctantly go out and vote for somebody with the party label, but to give money, that's another kettle of fish, altogether.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 20, 2010 02:06 PM (T0NGe)

Well, I just sent another small donation to Sharron Angle because of a mailer about Mayor Bloomberg holding a fundraiser for Harry Reid.  Let's see: I donated to O'Donnell after she beat Castle and got a trashing as her thanks;  I donated to Joe Miller after Murcheesy turned traitor on him -- yep, righteous anger is a great motivator.

138 by the way ace, I figured out why so many of us that didn't have a horse in the forbidden primary were kinda remiss at the tepid, lukewarm "okay, we'll support know, but we won't like it."

It's because this is what we got from you on Dipshitier, and kinda wanted you to say the same to [forbidden primary loser]:

If this happens: It won't be forgotten.

Because I'll be damned if I ever cast my vote for anyone - in a primary, or in a general -- who is going to play spoilsport bitch and sabotage the winner.

If this shit happens, I personally will never, ever support Clint Didier in the future, and will actively campaign for his Democratic opponent, should he be nominated.

If we don't get your support, jerkoff-- forget ours.

One rule: Either we both heal up and combine up after the primary, or we'll just sit out whatever election you're in n

ext time. We can't win without your 10%? Okay, try winning without our 35%. We cannot have it that a self-righteous spoilsport bitch dickhead decides to sabotage an election -- at least not without some massive retribution in kind.

Either we're all in this together, and we're all on the same team, or we're enemies -- and it's fine if we're enemies, but let me know. Because I don't vote for enemies.

139

Glue him to Obama and paint him with all the negative Obama characteristics:

Chicago-style politics
Murky Marxist past
Irresponsible with public funds
Willing to lie about what he wants to do

Harry Reid's "pet"...
...Remembering the "negro dialect" comment...

Joe Biden's Obama condesension... about O's "cleanliness"

140 I read at a website that has real witches.  They are very nice people and the rule on that site is 'no politics' yet they felt the need to defend christine and to say that even witches are allowed to run for office and to deny them cause they were a witch is un American.  Now all these people were big BO supporters so this is telling me a lot.

141 But instead of trying to mend fences and seek Castle's endosement, COD is instead still taking shots at him: In her debate with Coons a few days ago, she made a comment about "how nice it was to finally have an opponent who stuck to issues" and "was a gentleman".

O'Donnell, like her supporters, isn't interested in beating Coons.  Seriously.  They won the race they cared about, and to hell with everything and everyone else.

You'd be rich if you had a nickel for all the "we don't want to win the Senate anyway and at least Castle's gone" comments from these people.

142

Ace, you are coming from a reasonable approach and should never be faulted for that. 

I am looking at this Tea Party thing, as discussed last night, as a true phenomenon that has become embedded within a citizenry whose political senses have become so acute over the democrat party roughshod over the past 19 months that it is spreading out organically -  like pressure released that's seeking equilibrium. 

Case in point, a lady pushing 80 active here in a local  Southern CA Tea Party movement traveled coast to coast and was in the front row at Beck's 8/28 rally along with her friends operating with an energy and passion to take her country back.  This is one out of millions with the same passion.  

These are tough old birds joined with young folks, working class and professionals across the nation who are powering through in thousands of chapters of local tea party events held daily. With one goal - take the country back.  A goal that is more powerful and compelling than any standard party plank or platform.

143 The thing about donations is that people have to be motivated to give them, especially small "money bomb" donations.

Yes, and it would interesting to know what percentage of that pot of gold was contributed  in order to send Cornyn and Rove a message.

144 You know why Obama dropped to 46%? Wicthes baby, that's how they work. Embrace it!

145 Damn, Rush sounds PISSED today!

146 See christine is closer to the joe biden personality than the bearded marxist is. 

147 She had a midnight picnic on a Satanic altar. Really. Because nothing swells the Dark Lord's cock like spreading a red and white checkered cloth and eating sandwiches in his unholy name. Bitch please. I grew up in the same type of Maximum Jesus non-denominational church. I've heard many, many of these bullshit stories. They weren't just sinners, they gave Jesus the finger and WORSHIPPED SATAN. Christine O'Donnell can fuck off.

148 Jeeze man, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 20, 2010 02:05 PM (23kaI)

Please, people, can't we all alliterate?

Who micturated in your müesli?

Who wee-weed in your Weetabix?

Who peed in your Post Toasties?

Who urinated in your Uncle Sam?

149

The thing about donations is that people have to be motivated to give them, especially small "money bomb" donations.

They'll reluctantly go out and vote for somebody with the party label, but to give money, that's another kettle of fish, altogether.

"That's another kettle of fish!"

That's true.  Unfortunately all the attention being paid to the lost cause in DE is motivating people to donate to that race rather than those where the money would have much greater effect.

We have races like the Nevada Senate race where Tea Party endorsed Angle is tied with Reid- and who wouldn't like to see Reid sent packing?  I'd like more attention paid to that race and other close contests- that's where the motivation is needed.  DE just isn't in play.

150 forget O'Donnell the masturbating Wiccan witch

even I / me / myself could win a Senate race this year as an 'R' against a 'D'

151

Every dollar that wen't to DE could've just as well been flushed down the commode.  There are at least 8 races more worthy of attention and contributions.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 01:54 PM (plsiE)

WE SOOOOOOOOO agree with you!!!! Send us the money instead!

 

152
I love how she asks at the end, "Is this my new reality?" (meaning impending poverty due to O's policies).  Yeah, bitch, it is.  And you voted for it. 
Charlie: Is it the frank or the beans?
Ted: I think it's both.
Warren: Franks and beans! Franks and beans!
Yes, Barry has stuck the nation's package in his zipper.

153

Yes, and it would interesting to know what percentage of that pot of gold was contributed  in order to send Cornyn and Rove a message.

What's the message?  "Shut up and stop trying to help us win a seat- we're out to lose"?

154 Bitch please. I grew up in the same type of Maximum Jesus non-denominational church. I've heard many, many of these bullshit stories. They weren't just sinners, they gave Jesus the finger and WORSHIPPED SATAN.

Oh come on, now.  Worshipping the Dark Lord is just one of those youthful-indiscretion things.  Everyone does it at some point in their lives.  Can't we talk about more up-to-the minute breaking-news things, like Democrats being Marxists? 

155 147 - I wouldn't be surprised to find "a bunch" is the answer to that.

The thing is, Cornyn, Rove, Krauthammer, and the rest _need_ to be sent a message.  One more time, gridlock is okay (if necessary- I'd prefer an outright win, of course), but we have to get the Republican Party back to the core values of Conservatism and Liberty (but I repeat myself).  If we don't get that message across now, we may never have a chance.  Go-along-to-get-along politics is what got us here.

As many have said, Democrats move the country left as fast as they dare, and Republicans don't try to reverse that- just slow it down.  We're trying to get the message to the RNC that _if_ they don't want a 3rd party mucking things up (that possibility is still out there, remember) then they need to move back to us, not just sneer down their noses and expect us to move to them.

156 Delaware's looking at their highest unemployment in 32 years... and it's going UP. Why shouldn't it be in play?

157 then they need to move back to us, not just sneer down their noses and expect us to move to them.

Posted by: AllenG at September 20, 2010 02:19 PM (8y9MW)

Excellent point.  WE want the Government to get smaller, and that is painted by both the Dems, and many Repubs, as an EXTREMIST view.

They just continue to argue over which DIRECTION to grow the Government... Social Policy, or the Non needed Dept of Homeland Sec.

 

158 161- Eh, it depends on the RINO, I guess, and the specific situation, but, largely, yes.

It's how the Republican party came to be, remember: the Whigs went limp on slavery, and enough people said the 19th century equivalent of "Hell no!" that they formed a new party.

Perhaps fiscal sanity is our issue: if the Republicans don't want to face someone on their Right flank as well as someone on their Left, they need to move back Right.

159 Christine O 'D should scour the Internet for any big "Wiccan" conventions coming up before the election and do a guest appearance. Heads would explode, and I'd laugh my ass off at all the Libs (many of whom know at least one person who is wayyy too into horoscopes/crystals/auras/whatever) sounding like a Puritan in 17th Century Boston.

160

Delaware's looking at their highest unemployment in 32 years... and it's going UP. Why shouldn't it be in play?

It's not a question of whether is should or shouldn't be in play.  The reality is that it isn't.  The sooner we accept that and stop pretending that all our wishes will come true, the better.

161 What's the message?  "Shut up and stop trying to help us win a seat- we're out to lose"?

Every dollar that wen't to DE could've just as well been flushed down the commode. 

For F*cks sake. She wins; She gets huge financial support. And no matter how much at least her supporters were ready to put up real cash to make the general a real possibility. You just want the sour grapes.

She mentions an intense primary in a general debate, maybe just to head off personal attacks on her unvetted self, and suddenly she doesn't give a sh*t about winning?

Determined to be right rather than win, to send that message from the pragmatists back to the maximalists, even if it costs us a seat? Pot meet Kettle. The two of you should have so much to talk about.

162 I think another pertinent question is: How popular is Joe Biden in DE?

If Joe's still popular, why didn't Beau Biden run for his seat?

And why hasn't anyone reminded people about Joe Biden's other son being a corrupt lobbyist?

Posted by: the unknown comic

1. He is still seemingly an institution here. I'm not aware of any recent polling asking about that though.

2. Beau dodged when Castle was the front runner. There's an old tradition here about the first string taking each other on. And in truth, the year has been trending against the Dems for months now. SO, he's running again for state AG, and the Republicans are not opposing him. Carper is up for re-election in 2012. My bet is that Carper retires and Biden steps up then.

163

For F*cks sake. She wins; She gets huge financial support. And no matter how much at least her supporters were ready to put up real cash to make the general a real possibility. You just want the sour grapes.

She mentions an intense primary in a general debate, maybe just to head off personal attacks on her unvetted self, and suddenly she doesn't give a sh*t about winning?

Determined to be right rather than win, to send that message from the pragmatists back to the maximalists, even if it costs us a seat? Pot meet Kettle. The two of you should have so much to talk about.

It doesn't matter how much she or her supporters want her to win.  What matters is that she won't.  No amount of money, "sending a message", or pennies thrown in the wishing well are going to change that.

I wish it were different- I'll always prefer that the more conservative candidate wins.  I'd like to see O'Donnell win, but it's pretty obvious that she can't.  Neither my wishes or yours make a damned bit of difference in this race.

164

My understanding was that Obama was over 50% during the primary as well.. And at the time, it was reported that Delware had one of the few places where he wasn't underwater.

If, if, if. If this trend continues, and Coons can't do more than hide from his tax increases in NCC, then this is a contest. Not a lock or a lean even, but a contest.

165

O'Donnell: dabbled with witchery in high school

Obama: dabbles in witchery every time his wife lets him come to bed. 

O, hi, Michelle.

166

It doesn't matter how much she or her supporters want her to win.  What matters is that she won't.  No amount of money, "sending a message", or pennies thrown in the wishing well are going to change that.

I wish it were different- I'll always prefer that the more conservative candidate wins.  I'd like to see O'Donnell win, but it's pretty obvious that she can't.  Neither my wishes or yours make a damned bit of difference in this race.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 02:41 PM (plsiE)

Thanks for that, do you have Wensdays lotto numbers that you could share with us?

167 She had a midnight picnic on a Satanic altar. Really. Because nothing swells the Dark Lord's cock like spreading a red and white checkered cloth and eating sandwiches in his unholy name.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 20, 2010 02:15 PM (BK4l2)

Yeah -- LIVE KITTEN sandwiches!  And purritos!

168 If, if, if. If this trend continues, and Coons can't do more than hide from his tax increases in NCC, then this is a contest. Not a lock or a lean even, but a contest.

$2,000,000 will buy a lot of ad time in a small state like Delaware. If you think O'Donnell has been mean to Castle, ....

169

Encouraging stuff.

I will say, however, that I will respect purist arguments a lot more if the people who are donating money to O'Donnell have also donated to Angle, Rossi, or Fiorina.

170

"$2,000,000 will buy a lot of ad time in a small state like Delaware. If you think O'Donnell has been mean to Castle, ....
"

Are you sure?  I thought Delaware had the same problem as New Jersey--its included in the TV market of some of the neighboring big cities, so advertising actually costs an arm and a leg.

171 It's not a question of whether is should or shouldn't be in play.  The reality is that it isn't.  The sooner we accept that and stop pretending that all our wishes will come true, the better.

Right the sooner we just accept the loss and stop fighting for it and prove you right, the better off we will be?

I've got a corollary, the sooner we just accept socialism and an end to American prosperity as the new norm the better off we will be.

All you F*'s want is to be right. And want to leach any support you can in order to make it so. You are so bitter over this race that you think you get to tell others how they should spend their support money.

The reality is that it isn't.

If that's the case Intrade is selling DE for 83 go make yourself some sure thing cash.  But until you've bought every share all the way to 99 (take out mortgages if you need to, it is a sure thing anyway) I'm gonna take your doom and gloom for what it is. A sore loser.

172

I wish it were different- I'll always prefer that the more conservative candidate wins.  I'd like to see O'Donnell win, but it's pretty obvious that she can't.  Neither my wishes or yours make a damned bit of difference in this race.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 02:41 PM (plsiE)

That comes off really poorly.  It looks like you are projecting your disappointment with the primary outcome onto current reality.  I'd say that $1.9 million isn't "pennies down the wishing well" -- in fact, it's a pretty big chunk of airtime in the markets that cover Delaware.

Or are you more committed to being right than to getting the Senate seat into the R column?

173 Related:

Ted Kaufman, who currently holds the seat O'Donnell is chasing in Delaware, has remarked how Republicans seem to be pursuing "a holy jihad" against raising taxes.

Funny how they won't discuss that word with regards to terrorism, but they'll use it against political opponents.


The original story on this is up at The Hill.

174

Jeff don't be fucking retarded.

The girl was in high school, and also, she was early 20's and on TV and probably being sensationalist when she said it.

10 minuates ago she was so devout catholic she wanted to ban spankin, and now she worships satan.

Don't turn yourself into a leftist cartoon caricature of a christian.

That Satan bullshit is urban legends. She was never on a satanic alter, her dipshit boyfriend told her that and they probably both believed it. But there are no satanic altars. Wiccans don't worship satan they're new-age crystals and 'hollistic healing' potheads.

Even the Church of Satan does not worship Satan - they're fuckin atheists. They use it as a figurative image, mostly to seem rebellious and piss off christians.

These 'satanic rites' and horror movie nonsense and decapitated dogs in the forest preserve urban legends are just that.

You can believe Satan is responsible for false religions and tempts people to worship them as an affront to god - lots of Christians buy that. But no real group of people actually worships him directly.

Except in Voodoo.

And they're polytheists and pretty much treat him like just another god in the pantheon with his own spheres of influence.

Even if you were right, it's irrelevant.

Christine O'Donnell is a devout catholic.

Tell me, Jeff, is sin now unforgivable?

Did Christ's death not cover necking with a goth on an occult alter?

What, she can't convert? The Catholic church should have done a background check before allowing her to be baptized?

Who the FUCK are you to unforgive her for something she's repented for?

175

Vic, you have said conventional wisdom is out for this one. My thought has been that we're looking at something along the lines of 1994. A few Republican terms, the last of which was conservatism lite at best. This is followed by a full bore media firestorm of support of a fresh candidated (Clinton in 92, Obama in 0 . The Dem is elected, overplays his hand, and there is a wave of Republicans elected in 1994.

I'm sensing, however, that you are seeing something more far-reaching in its scope this time around. I'm still not so sure. I thought conservatism was back as a long term trend twice, once in 1994 and again post 9-11. When we slipped back toward liberalism after 9-11, I pretty much gave up hope on our sanity. Well, here we are again. The country has had its fill again after a Democrat administration way overreaches, and people are fed up and ready to turn out the SOBs. However, I'm a friendly skeptic to the notion that this is a new wave of people who will think and act conservative on a long term basis.

But this post of Ace's and some of the things I'm seeing give me pause. Hoping you are right.

176

It's not a question of whether is should or shouldn't be in play.  The reality is that it isn't.  The sooner we accept that and stop pretending that all our wishes will come true, the better.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 02:28 PM (plsiE)

Remind me not to refer oncology patients to you.  Your bedside manner would have them dialling Dr. Kevorkian within minutes.

177 Chrissie dropped  7.5  today on Intrade. She is now down to 17%This will give the Dems a 6 year Senate seat

178

I will say, however, that I will respect purist arguments a lot more if the people who are donating money to O'Donnell have also donated to Angle, Rossi, or Fiorina.

Posted by: Emperor of icecream at September 20, 2010 02:47 PM (epBek)

I've given money to both O' Donnell and Rossi after their primaries. I live in Washington. Rossi is behind Murray right now by 9 points. O' Donnell is behind by 11.

I think both will win but Rossi has a disadvantage in that he doesn't have the magic of the witches behind him.

179 >>183 Chrissie dropped  7.5  today on Intrade. She is now down to 17%This will give the Dems a 6 year Senate seat

4 years seat

180 Chrissie dropped  7.5  today on Intrade. She is now down to 17%This will give the Dems a 6 year Senate seat

Like I said to hollowpoint. They are selling DEM in DE for 83.5 go make some sure thing cash....Or shut up and admit OD has a chance.

Because the OD supporters already ponied up that they thought she had a chance.

181

Reason #6) Obama.

Northern voters are affected by pocket book issues the same as everyone else.  I know Obama's too stupid to change course to help the economy but I had forgotten that the health insurance premiums were going to rise in October.  Those old people (who really feel that bite) are going to be pissed.  Those entusiastic young people who showed up in 2008 are unemployed and dispirited and not going to vote in state elections.  Employers are going to grouse to one and all (take out ads. and everything) will make their presence felt.

Now if Coons embraces Obama (which appears likely) he's going straight to the bottom.

(Obama needs to change his middle name to "Anchor"...)

182 Related:

Ted Kaufman, who currently holds the seat O'Donnell is chasing in Delaware, has remarked how Republicans seem to be pursuing "a holy jihad" against raising taxes.

Funny how they won't discuss that word with regards to terrorism, but they'll use it against political opponents.


The original story on this is up at The Hill.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

 

Beautiful. Moslems have been pawning off the 'jihad' does not mean holy war'. See the crap they pawned of on the kids in Roxbury Mass. And now the guy who won't run to keep the seat he's warming just shot off his mouth about taxes.

So to Kaufman does this mean that Coons is a Crusader?

P.S. advertising time is relatively expensive here, since there is no organic TV in Delaware; they have to buy Philadelphia aritime, along with Baltimore or Salisbury MD. Thus, most of the viewers can't even vote in that particular race. On some Philly channels you can se ads for candidates in three different states.

183 Is/has Intrade ever been an accurate indicator? Examples please?

184

Or are you more committed to being right than to getting the Senate seat into the R column?

I'd much, much rather be wrong and see O'Donnell win than be right.  I've been wrong before, and will be wrong again.  I remember early in the 2008 primary I said that McCain had no shot at winning the primary (and I wasn't the only one).  Unfortunately I was wrong, but come election day I still held my nose and voted for him.

I'd like to win the lottery too, but knowing the odds I'm not going to blow my mortgage payment buying lottery tickets- the money would be much better spent on a place to live than on the very small chance that winning would allow my to buy a nicer house.

A lot of you are substituting your desires with reality- you want O'Donnell to win (as do I), and therefore believe that she will win (I don't).  Someone tries to bring you back to reality by suggesting that the race is a lost cause, and you assume that it can only be because they want a different outcome.

 

185 What, is she your girlfriend, Entropy? It would explain your frothing semi-coherent rage. A girlfriend who won't put out or let you jack it will do that, I guess. She's a proven flake, but nobody wants to hear that. This silly bitch is the standard bearer of conservatism? Why? Because she told you so? She said a lot of shit that was obviously self-aggrandizing and untrue, why should she be telling the truth about this? Dude, I enjoy most of your comments. But if you're as emotionally invested in this gal as you come across, you need to soak your head. Or Take The Old Man For A Walk, if you catch my drift.

186 If you like the CrAzY WiTcH so much then YOU go down to Delaware and YOU campaign for her!

Is that too much to ask from Caribou Barbie, who gave Scott Brown a pass when she admitted MA is different from AK, or that possum-haired redhead from SC, who decided to instigate a putsch against his own colleagues, to put their money where their big fucking mouths are?

“I’ll do whatever I can. I want to help, though, and not hurt," she told Fox News. "And, you know, sometimes it’s a double-edged sword there if my name is connected to anybody."

Well then, LEAVE THE FUCKING ROOM, BITCH.

187 As for who the FUCK I am... I'm Jeff, bitch. And I've drank more beer, and banged more quiff, and pissed more blood and stomped more ass than all of you numbnuts put together. Leave your panties after the beep, ladies.

188 P.S. advertising time is relatively expensive here, since there is no organic TV in Delaware; they have to buy Philadelphia aritime, along with Baltimore or Salisbury MD. Thus, most of the viewers can't even vote in that particular race. On some Philly channels you can se ads for candidates in three different states.

Thanks.  Which medium are preferred by residents for state and local news ?

189 Or Take The Old Man For A Walk, if you catch my drift.

Doin' the Han Solo Doing your homework Drilling for oil Fastening the chin strap on the helmet of love Fire the Surgeon General Fishing with dynamite Helping put Mr. Kleenex's kids through college Holding your own Left to your own devices Liquidating the inventory Making a cash withdrawal Minding your own business Patting the Robertson Playing solitaire Raining on your parade Relishing your hot dog Sampling the secret sauce Shooting yourself in the foot Spending your Christmas bonus Stewing in your own juices Summoning the genie Taking a load off Taking matters into your own hands Varnishing the banister Wrestling with your emotions Working up a foamy lather Acting out the grapes of wrath Backing your fistChoking the chickenFiring off some knuckle-childrenHolding your sausage hostageMaking stomach pancakesPlaying tug of war with the cyclopsRubbing Rob ReinerRuining your eyesightShake and steakThinking of your mom

190 Ahh..give it up, we all know who here was working towards defeating a guy who voted with Nancy 72% of the time, including Cap & Trade, and are now working towards electing a long-shot conservative.

And we all know who here worked for the election of the Rino Cap & Trader, and are still agitating against the conservative.

And no amount of caterwauling will change this obvious pattern that is right before our eyes.

191 we all know who here was working towards defeating a guy who voted with Nancy 72% of the time

ORLY by what stats, liar?

192 At least when you're wrong, you go the full monty and start internecine wars that split the party at the worst possible time. You got that goin for ya.

193 P.S. advertising time is relatively expensive here, since there is no organic TV in Delaware; they have to buy Philadelphia aritime, along with Baltimore or Salisbury MD. Thus, most of the viewers can't even vote in that particular race. On some Philly channels you can se ads for candidates in three different states.

Thanks.  Which medium are preferred by residents for state and local news ?

Posted by: mrp

It varies. Philly TV news isn't really a large primary source, since their Delaware coverage is scanty. Day to day,there is the one paper, The News Journal (Gannett chain member, totally in the tank for the Dems). Talk radio took off early here; it's what many conservatives used until the advent of blogs and online sources.

One thing that works for all candidates here is numerous public appearances, at all sorts of events. The size of the state enables this, though it obviously doesn't make for comprehensive information sharing.

194 But Intrade has Obama up by.......


Dammit, too late. That's what I get for going offline while earning a living.

195

At least when you're wrong, you go the full monty and start internecine wars that split the party at the worst possible time. You got that goin for ya.

Those causing the split are those screaming "How dare you suggest O'Donnell can't win you damned RINO traitor, you just hate her because you like RINOs like Castle!!!!11!!!"  See Mark Levin for examples.

If it was the case that Castle's chances of winning were only a little higher, we wouldn't even be talking.  However we went from a candidate with a 99% chance of winning to one with a 1% chance.  Acknowledging that O'Donnell will almost certainly lose- which is the current reality- isn't an attempt to start a fight or an endorsement of less conservative voting records.  It's merely stating the obvious.

The lesson we're trying to get across is that we should be supporting the most conservative candidate that has a reasonable chance of winning.  In the Delaware primary, they didn't- they voted for the most conservative candidate who has almost no chance at winning.

 

196 A lot of you are substituting your desires with reality- you want O'Donnell to win (as do I), and therefore believe that she will win (I don't).  Someone tries to bring you back to reality by suggesting that the race is a lost cause, and you assume that it can only be because they want a different outcome.

Wrong. wrong wrong. Most people use something other than a 0/1 digital system of predicting the future. Most of us use a fuzzy system that includes probabilities.

My personal cut, 70/30 she loses. Which is a little off of Intrades 83/17 split on the same subject.

30 or even 17 is still a very real possibility; You have about that possibility of rolling any particular number on a standard die. Which, 1 in 6, is still worth giving a go and not a "lost cause".

That is what gives everybody heartache, the odds aren't where YOU would like them for the race, so you cast in equally bad statement you accuse others of making. Essentially she has "no chance"

She has a chance to win, it is not great but it is not nothing.
You claim we are saying she will win most of us are not.
We are claiming she might win, and that the might is good enough for a real race.


You say the race is a lost cause. I don't know where your threshold for "lost cause" is, for me it is anything less than 5% (1 in 20) which BTW is right around where I thought saving the Republic was at in 2009. FTR I haven't improved that outlook much, only to 10%. Essentially, if I used your level of pessimism to dictate when and what I should try to effect, I wouldn't be trying at all. You might suggest saving the US is not that far of a reach as I grade it, I would suggest that based on historical record, you are emotionally inflating those odds to achieve what you would like to believe; Not what history and situation say are real.

197 But Intrade has Obama up by.......


Dammit, too late. That's what I get for going offline while earning a living.

Posted by: In before the troll

 

We missed you dude.

198

The argument was whether it was possible. Well, it was always possible; the argument was over whether it was longshot/darkhorse possible or more like coinflip possible.

Um, what?

Right here on this site, just after O'Donnell won, there were posters who were HAPPY the Senate committee wasn't going to waste money on her campaign because she COULD NOT get elected, and posters talked about not even trying to win DE because of all the harm that wasted money would cause.

Prior to the compaign, posters who supported her were called purists and the actual RINOs because O'Donnell was "unelectable."

So, saying that the Castle supporters thought that an O'Donnell win was eh, maybe, longshot possible is just pure BS.

I have no problem if you don't want to "spin" for O'Donnell, but don't spend time spinning for the posters here who were saying nothing of the sort.

199 Ummm, another codundrum...when I posted his individual votes during the primary, his year by year ratings from the CFG, and the ACU, I was flamed for posting them (everyone already knows is record, dickwad), for posting them in BOLD, for which I was told to (suck my dick), so no way...go look it up.

Anyhooo, everyone knows his record and fondness for Democrats especially after he spoke with Obama and Biden election night, and his subsequent typical Rino behavior of blaming the Republican base and talk shows for publizing his votes.

200 Right here on this site, just after O'Donnell won, there were posters who were

I have been keeping track, their are a bunch of posters here who are vehemently on both sides of this issue.

All the way from
She will win (Very few)
She will likely win (Some support)
She has a chance (Most people who support OD)
She has almost no chance (Most people who supported Castle)
The race is a foregone loss (Some people who supported Castle)

The Castle supporters are at least as guilty of deflating her odds as OD supporters are of inflating them. And all sides have represented themselves ad-nauseum.

201 200 At least when you're wrong, you go the full monty and start internecine wars that split the party at the worst possible time. You got that goin for ya.

Hi!!!!

202

The purpose of the thread was the topic of Obama going underwater in Delaware. That is important in that prior to the primary, he was supposedly over 50%; Delaware was one of the few places where he was. That's no longer the case. Other huge factors remain in play; some less so. he received an infusion of cash. Hopefully, if she gets any out of state support, it will be used to beast effect (Palin in the lower two counties and Scott Brown perhaps in NCC. If Brown can be photographed opposite Coons, particularly in a verbal exchange, that would be gold.

Getting Castle's endorsement would be extremenly important, if only to reduce any Republican rift that remains.But turnout and the Independents will remain the two key issues. If the turnout disparity mirrors the primary, and she holds the lead in Independents, then she can do this.

That's still a lotta ifs.

203 At least when you're wrong, you go the full monty and start internecine wars that split the party at the worst possible time. You got that goin for ya.

Hi!!!!

Posted by: Christine RINO Hunter O'Donnell

I know, how dare you dare to dare and challenge the establishment candidate? Primaries are for inaugurations not campaigns.

What does the establishment candidates not know about primaries? What to do if they loose.

204

The Castle supporters are at least as guilty of deflating her odds as OD supporters are of inflating them. And all sides have represented themselves ad-nauseum.

The difference being, of course, the story for the Castle supporters is now being changed.

205 BB, why don't you leave the site. I'm sick of you. GTFO.

206 You said you were going to Goldstein's; go. I don't want assholes here. You are an asshole Go.

207 and I'm quite serious. I am tired of the angry fucks, the useless nasty jerkoffs, who are so angry at their personal situation that the internet exists only as place to vent their anger at their own loserdom, who are constantly picking fights with their online allies *because we are the only people who will talk to them online or in real life.* Get the fuck out. Go.

208 Getting Castle's endorsement would be extremenly important, if only to reduce any Republican rift that remains.

I don't think any reasonable person could blame Castle for refusing to endorse Chrissy O. after all this.  Hell, it's a week later and she's still running against him.

209 truthfairy, you go too.

210 The internet exists as a place to vent. My pants.

211 Over a year ago, when the Tea Party charged out of the blocks, the question was whether they would clash enough with Republicans to cause a split and weaken both.

In retrospect, now, it would seem that this has been largely avoided and a partnership formed with likely spectacular results.  It is arguable of course, but it seems to me that Delaware is the only spot with visible space between the two, a few other minor spats notwithstanding.

One can say that the Tea Party has pulled some punches and that many moderate Republicans have moved to the right - and all of that would be true - but it is overall very positive, considering the alternative.  The fact that the Tea Party has not run candidates on their own ticket is key to this election.

So it is Kudos then, to the leadership in both and to the electorate who show every sign of acting in a rational way, the return to which is welcome.

212 The internet exists as a place to vent. My pants.

I heard that, mister!

213

Wrong. wrong wrong. Most people use something other than a 0/1 digital system of predicting the future. Most of us use a fuzzy system that includes probabilities.

My personal cut, 70/30 she loses. Which is a little off of Intrades 83/17 split on the same subject.

30 or even 17 is still a very real possibility; You have about that possibility of rolling any particular number on a standard die. Which, 1 in 6, is still worth giving a go and not a "lost cause".

That's what I mean- you want her to win, so you've vastly overestimated her chances.  70/30?  Really?  Come on... I could buy 90/10 or even 85/15- what I would call a lost cause in either case.  But 30%?  That's just not remotely realistic.

Ordinarily you'd expect a post-nomination bump in the polls- but in this case she went from being behind 11 points at 47-36 before the primary to being behind 11 points 53-42 after.  With only 7 weeks to go and 4% undecided, that's well past "longshot" odds.

214 Ace, I think "underwater" must be a code word.. can Obama even swim?

215

Ordinarily you'd expect a post-nomination bump in the polls- but in this case she went from being behind 11 points at 47-36 before the primary to being behind 11 points 53-42 after.  With only 7 weeks to go and 4% undecided, that's well past "longshot" odds.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 20, 2010 04:31 PM (plsiE)

Yup, Rossi went from plus 3 at the nomination to behind 5 with Murray getting 51% of the vote and only 2% undecided.

Another lost cause.

216 Getting Castle's endorsement would be extremenly important, if only to reduce any Republican rift that remains.

I don't think any reasonable person could blame Castle for refusing to endorse Chrissy O. after all this.  Hell, it's a week later and she's still running against him.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States

 

Did you see what Ace said? I'm not taking about blaming anyone, including Castle.

I'm saying that I think that it would help. Why she's still taking that tack I don't know. Either she is slow to change, vengeful, or somebody has the notion that she won't get anything from him, so she's running against him (as in establishment). I don't know. it's depressing, but we're not privy to the level of info that would make this clear.

217

"truthfairy, you go too."

Hey, you said you might be wrong, I'm just agreeing with my first post ever. But you are inadvertently helping the cause come 2012 by talking Christine down, because if we get the Senate as well as the House in November, Obama is much more likely to be re-elected. With the Senate still in Dem control, he goes down. And all we really need is the House anyway to welcome back our beloved gridlock in which no further harm occurs. I just felt compelled to finally post after all these years of enjoying this site because when you go off the rails you do it up right and thus help ensure a Dem victory in Delaware.

 

218 He probably is not far enough to the left for a lot of them. We had a meeting at work the other day and the lady from corporate was explaining to everyone that they might want to consider health savings accounts because our health insurance was going up {again}...and she said straight up, blame your government.

Well there were actually a couple of people there who said they were disappointed that we did not get a health care program like the French have, because theirs is free and stuff.

I literally laughed at them. Just plain laughed. Idiots.

So there might be some folks in Delaware who are wondering where utopia is.

219 that woman does not belong in the senate. she's a nobody with no achievements. she's somebody bill maher put on TV at one point just to make fun of her because of what her 'organization' was lobbying for. she's a nobody who parlayed one tv appearance into another. what an embarassment to the GOP that they have nominated a complete zero to go up against somebody like coons who has an impeccable background. castle should run as an independent! we know who he will caucus with and he will draw as many votes from the dems as from GOP voters. draft crastle!!

220 I believe this is the same poll which shows O'Donnell down by 16 to Coons.  It was taken just before the primary but not released until Wednesday.

On the other hand, Rasmussen is the only poll done after the primary.  It has Coons up by 11.  As is always the case with Rasmussen, it is a poll of likely voters.  Among those same likely voters, Obama has an approval rating of 54%, with 43% disapproving.

I just don't see the math that gets O'Donnell over the finish line.  If Rasmussen is to be believed, she would need the votes of Obama supporters.  That just defies logic.  Delaware is a very liberal state, and a flawless conservative would be a long shot.  As we know, Christine O'Donnell is not a flawless conservative.

I think the "Tea Party" is guilty of ivory tower syndrome.  You can't just force conservatism on people.  Bright red candidates are not going to sell in bright blue states.  I fear we will learn this the hard way on Nov. 2.

221 "As everyone on the Castle side of things says, pretty much, we never disagreed that Castle pretty much sucked or that it would be preferable, if possible, to put O'Donnell into that seat, flaws notwithstanding." I don't believe everyone said that. I know I had reservations about O'Donnell winning the seat and being used to drag all Republicans down. But she's recently shown that she has the grace and tact to handle some of the silly things from her past, so I don't think having her in the Senate will be a net minus.

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