July 11, 2010
— Dave in Texas Live feed.
I don't see any of that gushy stuff we've been watching for a while. Hopeful.
I was gonna add something about Spain's victory over the Netherlands, it was a penalty kick superthing.
Yeah. That thrilling.
Oil link thingy via ChrisP over at H2
UPDATED: commenter rdbrewer says look at this link instead. Bitchface. (thanks)
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It's a travesty that a sporting spectacle like that ends on penalty kicks.
They should have sudden death until forever.
Posted by: at July 11, 2010 07:03 PM (pfMMA)
Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2010 07:09 PM (S+zZ6)
Posted by: whatmeworry? at July 11, 2010 07:12 PM (37puw)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 11, 2010 07:15 PM (Nr9jl)
Posted by: ParisParamus at July 11, 2010 07:18 PM (qxV2+)
Posted by: Kaitian at July 11, 2010 07:19 PM (pZoWe)
Posted by: Kaitian at July 11, 2010 07:20 PM (pZoWe)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 07:21 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: brother can you spare a unicorn? at July 11, 2010 07:21 PM (kCLi2)
Posted by: Kaitian at July 11, 2010 07:22 PM (pZoWe)
It's a travesty that a sporting spectacle like that ends on penalty kicks.
They should have sudden death until forever.
Posted by: at July 11, 2010 11:03 PM (pfMMA)
--It did not end with penalty kicks. It was in "overtime," which is not sudden death in World Cup play.
Posted by: logprof at July 11, 2010 07:24 PM (BP6Z1)
Please?
Posted by: apotheosis at July 11, 2010 07:27 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: wuzrobbd at July 11, 2010 07:29 PM (3PyNP)
Posted by: 48%er at July 11, 2010 07:36 PM (OThQg)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at July 11, 2010 07:36 PM (xO+6C)
Please?
The Angels got yer All-Star game coming right up on Tuesday night; Home Run derby tomorrow night.
Posted by: PA Cat at July 11, 2010 07:37 PM (6iC1y)
Good news fellow C&L comrade patriots! Obama just flew down from D.C. in his Superman outfit and single handedly plugged the oil leak ! I knew that evil Boosh Luthor wouldn't get the best of him !
Posted by: Blazer at July 11, 2010 07:37 PM (t72+4)
A barely competitive, 1-0 game... which tells you everything you need to know about the World Cup. They like scoring like Obama likes America.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 11, 2010 07:45 PM (swuwV)
It's "truthy".
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 11, 2010 07:48 PM (h/zKr)
Because they had reasons to believe that that the well and all of their equipment on it might not be perzackly stable?
That and the whole operating with robots a mile underwater, thing.
My first two guesses.
Posted by: Deety at July 11, 2010 07:53 PM (aVzyR)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 07:56 PM (Md12S)
No need to thank me, I am but only a simple man.
Posted by: Barak Obama at July 11, 2010 07:56 PM (6ToIL)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 07:58 PM (Md12S)
I will be making a speech about my efforts to cap this well tomorrow.
Posted by: Obama at July 11, 2010 08:00 PM (Md12S)
In the feed from Ocean Intervention III ROV 2, you can see the other robot working up close.
I can't tell what they're doing in the Enterprise ROV 2 feed.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 08:03 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: pitythefool at July 11, 2010 08:03 PM (N0MNv)
Posted by: Obama's Braintrust at July 11, 2010 08:04 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at July 11, 2010 08:09 PM (uY/nr)
Posted by: apodoca at July 11, 2010 08:20 PM (JCHdz)
Spain won that turd in a penalty kickoff round, right?
Posted by: Obama at July 11, 2010 08:22 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at July 11, 2010 08:27 PM (uY/nr)
What's C&L?
Posted by: ParisParamus at July 11, 2010 11:56 PM (qxV2+)
Crooks & Liars. We're having a wienie roast over there and decided to camp out for awhile.
Posted by: Blazer at July 11, 2010 08:30 PM (t72+4)
Obama, we should leave the spigot opon on that well or else we'll have to talk about Obamacare.
Posted by: Obama Braintrust at July 11, 2010 08:30 PM (Md12S)
That's the James Cameron fake feed. You didn't think that they actually consulted him for his underwater expertise, did you?
In the meantime... we're all doooomed.
Posted by: shibumi at July 11, 2010 08:32 PM (OKZrE)
Maybe we wouldn't "dis" it so much if those who do watch it weren't so smug and condescending. "The world's most watched sporting event"? So friggin' what?
We. Just. Don't. Care.
Deal with it.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at July 11, 2010 08:32 PM (8JB7Y)
Posted by: Portnoy at July 11, 2010 08:33 PM (azgo2)
They're only the eighth country now to win a World Cup. Of those eight, five have won two or more.
Uruguay - 2
Argentina - 2
West Germany - 3*
Italy - 4
Brazil - 5
*Yep, WEST Germany.
England and France (and now Spain) have won one each, making them seem like crazy statistical anomalies.
The next World Cup in 2014 is in Brazil. Gee, I wonder who's gonna win that one?
Posted by: Robert at July 11, 2010 08:40 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 11, 2010 08:42 PM (LtIsn)
Posted by: Pres'ent Toonces Costanza at July 11, 2010 08:49 PM (eCAn3)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Squad, And Summoner Of Meteors. at July 11, 2010 08:50 PM (eCAn3)
Posted by: Berserker at July 11, 2010 08:56 PM (gWHrG)
Posted by: Obama Braintrust at July 11, 2010 09:06 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 09:15 PM (Md12S)
Well, some guy in a 3 won the Lucas Oil 200 (of the Camping World truck series, oh and thanks to Sprint, Nationwide, Coke-Cola, and Sunoco while I'm at it) in Iowa this afternoon.
Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2010 09:22 PM (3ur4H)
I'm watching it on CNN (live feed), and the oil's still coming out. Looks like it's more of a directed stream, though.
Heh. It says "no audio". Well, no shit. Maybe they can get Anderson Cooper down their with a microphone.
Barry: "Let me be clear: I have plugged the dang hole. Now check out this putt..."
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 11, 2010 09:35 PM (P33XN)
Posted by: rawmuse at July 11, 2010 09:38 PM (gQWi+)
Posted by: curious at July 11, 2010 09:41 PM (p302b)
I hope it is capped. I don't care who takes credit for it.
I agree for the sake of the folks living down there.
But you just know the media will start up the "Look what Barry did!" crap. In a week they'll be acting like the oil only leaked for a day before President Tar Balls waved his magic wand and fixed everything.
Oil spills aren't as destructive when a democrap is president.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 11, 2010 09:41 PM (P33XN)
They're going to put another stack of rams on top of the "spool" they just bolted to the flange. It's being lowered on drill pipe from the Discoverer Inspiration and is currently at ~1000 ft. It will take hours to get down there.
Not sure why it wasn't already staged since the DI has two derricks.
The ram stack will still leak out the top. They're going to put another top hat on top, but it will be a sealing top hat with access ports allowing production. Then there will be no more leaks.
They will also test closing the rams to see if they cen seal the well altogether, but that's dicey in case the pressure gets too high. The flex joint that is just below the flange they've been working on is only rated to ~3000 psi I believe.
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 11, 2010 09:44 PM (kYpqT)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 10:03 PM (Md12S)
@51: Thanks for the all in one cams link...handy.
@56: It is interesting though...like watching work being done live on the moon or Mars
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 10:12 PM (QY7/i)
That thing the arms are holding is a hydraulic wrench. The camera goes to the guages because they monitor how much they pressure up on the nut. They pressure up three times each.
You can see the hydraulic feed hose. It's the red hose going to the wrench. One tube goes in while the other takes the fluid that exits.
I'm a gearhead from way back.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 10:27 PM (Md12S)
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 10:32 PM (QY7/i)
Not sure if I buy what molan labe said about another stack of rams. The BOP weighs 450 tons, and it sits on pipe that comes out of the hole. I don't think they could stack another 450 tons on top of that.
I think with a clean mating surface, that thing on top with the big lip where the oil is not coming out, they can just put another top hat type thing on that wrenches down after hooking onto that giant lip.
If you look at the feed from Enterprise ROV 2 they were showing a thing that looked like a top hat, but I'm not sure. The shot was from the bottom. It looked like they were prepping it, cleaning the mating surface. Not sure, since I figured they'd have to have a different, new top hat with the ability to crank down.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 10:35 PM (Md12S)
Enterprise ROV2 is the green looking one?...kinda hard to make out what's going on there.
Why would they want to put a BOP on it if the goal is to just kill the well?...unless they are planning to get more oil out of it?
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 10:42 PM (QY7/i)
That green shit was coming out of a metal wand they had stuck up into a top-hat looking thing. The stuff was lighter than water and was pooling underneath in a large bowl-shaped cavity.
Then a Fritos bag drifted by.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 10:47 PM (Md12S)
I was just looking near the top of the new thingy. There are large arm type things mounted underneath the new opening. Maybe they are going to use the old top hat, and the new arms are what they crank it down with. I think that's it. With a smooth mating surface and big arms to hold down the cap, that'd solve most of the leak problem. Seems like.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 10:52 PM (Md12S)
Fritos?...maybe the whole thing really is being staged and they're really only in 40 feet of water in a tank and James Cameron is directing it and one of the stage hands dropped his fritos during lunch break?
Kinda wondering what that green shit is...
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 10:59 PM (QY7/i)
There are large arm type things mounted underneath the new opening. Maybe they are going to use the old top hat, and the new arms are what they crank it down with.
...kind of like the lid of a pressure cooker...
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:01 PM (QY7/i)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 11:08 PM (Md12S)
Yeah, just got a brief glimpse of where it was coming from...some kind of solvent maybe.
That cylindrical shaped thing with the pole sticking up is the top hat?...looks kinda beat
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:15 PM (QY7/i)
Yeah, watch him take credit for it then have it blow out again...he's a jinx...the best thing he can do to help it is stay as far away as possible
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:18 PM (QY7/i)
See that wide opening in the bottom of the cylindrical thing you mentioned? The thing with the pole in it? That's where the green shit pooled for a long time. If that's the old cap, that hole is the mating surface, and they'd want it clean.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 11:21 PM (Md12S)
Thing is, that cylander thing doesn't have the same metal guide tabs the old top hat had. The top hat had four triangular guide tabs.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 11:23 PM (Md12S)
Success has a thousand fathers.
So does Chavez.
What's Tuco's line from the Good the Bad and the Ugly?
You want to know who you are? Huh? You want to know who's son you are?
You don't, I do, everybody does... you're the son of a thousand fathers,
all bastards like you.
Yeah, sounds like ol' Hugo.
Posted by: J. Wilde at July 11, 2010 11:23 PM (yhnTF)
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 11:23 PM (Md12S)
@ J Wilde...I was just thinking of that same movie quote
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:24 PM (QY7/i)
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:27 PM (QY7/i)
Posted by: CanaDave at July 11, 2010 11:40 PM (QY7/i)
Here's the old top hat. You can see the triangular guide tabs sticking out of the oil plume.
Re that thing with the pole in it: I was thinking the mating surface was inside the opening, not the flat bottom. The top of the new section of pipe is a nozzle/nipple thingy with a big, fat lip. That's where the oil is now coming out. Under that are three large arms that reach wide and up--looks like they're for grabbing onto something.
Posted by: rdbrewer at July 11, 2010 11:43 PM (Md12S)
The new stack has only three rams and weighs ~80 tons.
It will be no problem for the wellhead. The upper part of the well is constructed from three concentric rings of casing with cement in between.
You've got 36" OD casing going down 300 feet, then 28" down 1200 ft, then 22" down almost 3000 ft. All three strings cemented back to surface. That is not going anywhere.
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 12, 2010 12:50 AM (kYpqT)
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 12, 2010 02:51 AM (kYpqT)
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 12, 2010 01:44 AM (kYpqT)
You got it right in your posts. My kid ran the BP completions umbilical that they are using to control the latching and the intervention BOP.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 12, 2010 02:57 AM (CwSo8)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 12, 2010 03:13 AM (CwSo8)
Now, suddenly the spill(or rather the lack thereof) will be newsworthy....
"change"
Wonder if Bury will have the stones to try to get his full aikido on and campaign on "my party's brilliant display of competence in the golf"?
Posted by: sven10077 at July 12, 2010 03:17 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Jean at July 12, 2010 03:20 AM (CPefM)
Posted by: Jean at July 12, 2010 03:21 AM (CPefM)
97 Jean,
they are playing it real close to their vest...they almost have to keep it in production to one degree or another so they are controlling the massive pressure, that was what killed the original shot at topkill was the wild pressure.
Posted by: sven10077 at July 12, 2010 03:22 AM (kq1lG)
98 Jean,
Axelturf says the rigs leaving is not "optimal"....
I guess what Axelturf means is "come on guys you know we have to engage in the theatrics and not let a good crisis go to waste..."
Posted by: sven10077 at July 12, 2010 03:23 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: sven10077 at July 12, 2010 03:27 AM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 12, 2010 03:49 AM (kYpqT)
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 12, 2010 04:02 AM (kYpqT)
>> DaveinTexas, you didn't watch the game, don't understand soccer, don't understand the concept of extra-time, just don't know what you're talking about.
All true.
See if you can guess what else I don't do.
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