October 19, 2010
— Ace I always have to offer a point of caution about stories like this -- yes, this is encouraging, but bear in mind an enthusiastic, eager, well-before-deadline vote counts just as much as a dissatisfied, reluctant vote cast ten minutes before the polling places close.
In other words, this doesn't prove we've got more votes; it just proves we're more eager to vote.
Still, it's certainly not a bad thing. Oh, and Be the Wave you dicks.
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Posted by: ParisParamus at October 19, 2010 02:53 PM (gMzAL)
Posted by: Ombudsman at October 19, 2010 02:54 PM (c1oyg)
/MSM
Posted by: robviously at October 19, 2010 02:55 PM (N7uu0)
Yes, but it counts a lot more than a bored, disinterested cynical non-vote unmade by the time the polling places close.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 19, 2010 02:55 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Greg at October 19, 2010 02:55 PM (BAtLQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2010 02:56 PM (VW9/y)
Posted by: ParisParamus at October 19, 2010 02:57 PM (gMzAL)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 19, 2010 02:59 PM (ocHBO)
Posted by: CDR M on Battle Watch at October 19, 2010 03:02 PM (JSetw)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 03:02 PM (z1N6a)
Yes, but it also blunts the effect of the October surprise. At least fraud is illegal and, in theory, can be prosecuted.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 19, 2010 03:02 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2010 03:02 PM (9Cooa)
Posted by: railwriter at October 19, 2010 03:03 PM (BsK3p)
The hub and I both refuse to vote early. We refuse to let anyone know how many more votes they need to fabricate.
Posted by: Agent P at October 19, 2010 03:03 PM (fPmeR)
my district MO-6 is of course completely safe
Posted by: chemjeff at October 19, 2010 03:03 PM (E97ku)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 19, 2010 03:03 PM (h60Tu)
good point - better to surprise them with Demageddon rather than let it trickle out and give them time to regroup and counterattack
besides, don't forget, the same people compiling voter registration info for people who have already voted, are gov't employees and no doubt SEIU union members
Posted by: chemjeff at October 19, 2010 03:04 PM (E97ku)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 19, 2010 06:59 PM (ocHBO)
That's not how it works - they need the minions to think there is a chance. Enough red wave, and the minions think they might be on the losing side and get listless. Especially when the other side might be running the investigative arm.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 03:04 PM (z1N6a)
an enthusiastic, eager, well-before-deadline vote counts just as much as a dissatisfied, reluctant vote cast ten minutes before the polling places close.
Yeah, but the former might keep a couple of the latter from showing up.
This has been an issue before -- voters in the FL panhandle were hearing Gore had won the state while polls were open, or Bush probably would have had a wider margin.
Posted by: TallDave at October 19, 2010 03:05 PM (lNW+B)
Posted by: Donna at October 19, 2010 03:05 PM (/9pqf)
Posted by: joncelli at October 19, 2010 03:06 PM (MLQL2)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at October 19, 2010 03:07 PM (wd0Iq)
Nope. I believe that was a Hispanic activist who hates Reid but couldn't endorse Angle because she isn't sufficiently in favor of people illegally working for slave wages.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 19, 2010 03:08 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Donna at October 19, 2010 03:08 PM (/9pqf)
Posted by: ford fights back at October 19, 2010 03:10 PM (Ki7fm)
besides, don't forget, the same people compiling voter registration info for people who have already voted, are gov't employees and no doubt SEIU union members
Posted by: chemjeff at October 19, 2010 07:04 PM (E97ku)
We live in Vegas and we're not taking any chances. Last year Acorn/SEIU was outside of the DMV registering people. They tried talking to me and I told them I don't support corrupt organizations and they got in the hub's face.
Posted by: Agent P at October 19, 2010 03:10 PM (fPmeR)
Look, I appreciate all this GOTV stuff but I come for the creepy Ewok porn first and foremost. Toss me a bone once in a while Ace.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 19, 2010 03:10 PM (uvFJG)
Posted by: Sharon Angle at October 19, 2010 03:11 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Sharron Angle at October 19, 2010 03:12 PM (lNW+B)
Toss me a bone once in a while Ace.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 19, 2010 07:10 PM (uvFJG)
It would be a pleasure.
Posted by: Bwaney Fwank at October 19, 2010 03:13 PM (v1gw3)
This is a dirty trick for a normal election. This isn't a normal election anymore.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 03:13 PM (z1N6a)
I never use absentee ballots or take advantage of early voting. I figure that it's toughest to screw with my vote when it's done on election day, in front of witnesses.
And I love to vote. The whole process is just wonderful and amazing.
Posted by: Sharon Angle at October 19, 2010 03:15 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at October 19, 2010 03:15 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: fluffy at October 19, 2010 03:16 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: Donna at October 19, 2010 03:16 PM (/9pqf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 19, 2010 03:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: ford fights back at October 19, 2010 03:16 PM (Ki7fm)
A man went into a Carol Che Porter office, went home with a 4x8 to put on his front lawn. He made his own sign out of it...DUMP Shea Porter...
hahaha, that's bee-yoo-tiful!
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 19, 2010 03:16 PM (GfGBM)
Posted by: ford fights back at October 19, 2010 03:17 PM (Ki7fm)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 19, 2010 03:18 PM (UOM48)
We live in Vegas and we're not taking any chances. Last year Acorn/SEIU was outside of the DMV registering people. They tried talking to me and I told them I don't support corrupt organizations and they got in the hub's face.
Posted by: Agent P at October 19, 2010 07:10 PM (fPmeR)
Agent, do you know if Soros infiltrated NV with his Secretary of State program?
Posted by: RushBabe at October 19, 2010 03:19 PM (a3Z62)
"O/T: " So if Sharon Angle lives on her husband's government pension and I guess her school teacher's pension and probably another pension from being an elected official, then she may not be any better than Harry Reid"
Is this true, my friend from Nevada told us all this today?
His essential point was that she will fight to keep those pensions intact and support government employees and teachers.
I don't know enough about the race to answer intelligently, what should I respond? TIA"
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 03:19 PM (p302b)
The "we're gonna cross the aisle and meet our democrat friends" nonsense was debunked by Rush Limbaugh today. He castigated the wussie republicans, letting them know the clock has run, and they had better get aboard because the tea party train is leaving the station. It's total annihilation for the Marxist/socialist or we have lost America. Fix bayonets!
Posted by: Fish at October 19, 2010 03:19 PM (v1gw3)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 19, 2010 03:20 PM (0GFWk)
Ace, I am signed up to promote Van Tran who is the conservative republican running in California' 47th congressional district which is currently held by one of the most obnoxious liberals around, Loretta Sanchez.
The event is October 23 and we will be walking the precinct in Orange County, California in the City of Fullerton.
Any of you moron(ettes) in the area, please, please, please help. I will buy drinks aftewards.
Note, this seat was literally stolen by Loretta Sanchez from Republican Bob Dornan several years back through voter fraud.
Lets take it back!
Posted by: journolist at October 19, 2010 03:20 PM (O/NP5)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 19, 2010 03:21 PM (0GFWk)
Posted by: GREG!! at October 19, 2010 03:22 PM (azgo2)
Posted by: Cole Sear at October 19, 2010 03:23 PM (WovsE)
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 07:19 PM (p302b)
Tell this person to just shut the fuck up, vote for Angle, and help save the country.
Posted by: Soona at October 19, 2010 03:24 PM (k+EMj)
Posted by: Stupid Fucking Greg at October 19, 2010 03:24 PM (Snu7z)
Here is a poll from back in August that shows less than 1 in 4 people actually trust TV News, and Newspapers.
So when they report stupid shit like that Angle gaff, no one really cares. I believe that this mistrust of the MFM is actually increasing the backlash against the dems.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 19, 2010 03:24 PM (rMhm7)
This.
Plus, ballots can more easily get lost, mutilated, or set afire the more time they're in existence. Or digital records hacked into the ether.
This year it's straight GOP (no Indies, Constitution party, or sane Libertarian running in my district)... on time and in person. Donations to desirable candidates out of my district, however, will still flow in the timely manner known as "NOW!"
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 03:24 PM (swuwV)
"O/T: " So if Sharon Angle lives on her husband's government pension and I guess her school teacher's pension and probably another pension from being an elected official, then she may not be any better than Harry Reid"
Is this true, my friend from Nevada told us all this today?
His essential point was that she will fight to keep those pensions intact and support government employees and teachers.
I don't know enough about the race to answer intelligently, what should I respond? TIA"
curious: it's a trap. Your friend is baiting you into "admitting" that Sharron Angle is a nutball hardcore extreme libertarian who wants to fire all the state employees and usher in the new era of anarchist objectivism.
Here's how I would respond:
- government should honor its current agreements with current employees
- Sharron Angle, WHEN she wins, will be entitled to the same benefits that every other Senator enjoys - so it's wrong to begrudge her that
- and SOMEONE has to stand up and say "what we are currently doing is unsustainable, the union and government pensions are obscenely generous, so from now on, we have to rein in the unbelievably generous contributions to the pensions before they bankrupt the entire country" - Harry Reid is NOT that guy, so Sharron Angle is absolutely better than Reid
Posted by: chemjeff at October 19, 2010 03:26 PM (E97ku)
I look forward to the soul searching "MFM - Do we care TOO much?" articles paired with "Stupid Fucking Voters - whats up with that?"
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 03:27 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: nevergiveup at October 19, 2010 07:21 PM (0GFWk)
Yes sir. She said on Spanish Telemundo that the Asians and republicans are trying to steal her congressional seat.
Posted by: journolist at October 19, 2010 03:27 PM (O/NP5)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 03:32 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: ford fights back at October 19, 2010 03:32 PM (Ki7fm)
Agent, do you know if Soros infiltrated NV with his Secretary of State program?
Posted by: RushBabe at October 19, 2010 07:19 PM (a3Z62)
Yes, they succeeded in 2006 with Ross Miller. He is up for re-election against Lauer. I'll be voting for Lauer.
Posted by: Agent P at October 19, 2010 03:34 PM (fPmeR)
Posted by: Concerned at October 19, 2010 03:36 PM (mtOAJ)
I've been swamped but I've noticed that my hard core, obama bot friends are saying a lot of totally weird stuff, stuff that if you are a thinking person, makes no sense. Sort of a furtherance of "hope and change" but almost worse as they are saying "we need to go out and vote we have to stop the republicans and the tea party from ruining everything BO has done for us"..
When you challenge them they say you are the one who "doesn't understand what is actually going on" and they "feel sorry for you as you are just that stupid"....
seriously they are really starting to make me worry...
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 03:37 PM (p302b)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:38 PM (iAu/o)
Posted by: Geronimo at October 19, 2010 03:39 PM (LrM4L)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 03:39 PM (swuwV)
curious , that's pretty typical, i got in a fight with a few dems over the weekend at a party. they kneeeew everything but had never heard of pelosi.
drove me nuts., i talked my husband into buying booze and do a barbeque for all his old friends to keep them busy and not voting.
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:41 PM (iAu/o)
"a campaign worker here saw the sign and CALLED POLICE!!! The fellow said, ...hey I was given the sign by the campaign, what I did with it is up to me. It belongs to me...no charges."
Stupid capitalist imperialism and your belief in "private property!"
OH, for the communist utopia we are all leaning forward towards, where The State will own all property, and none of these puerile stunts will happen anymore!
Posted by: average LaRouchian at October 19, 2010 03:42 PM (kC3nL)
drove me nuts., i talked my husband into buying booze and do a barbeque for all his old friends to keep them busy and not voting.
You could try and confuse them by throwing an "election results watch-party" on November 3rd...
Posted by: reason at October 19, 2010 03:44 PM (kC3nL)
Yeah, if Pelosi was on my team, I'd declare ignorance, too. Just kidding. I don't believe they hadn't heard of her which is to say that I do believe they're Democrats because "they lied."
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 03:44 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:45 PM (iAu/o)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:46 PM (iAu/o)
well as you go through life you make friends. My closest friends aren't a huge group, no one has a huge group of closest friends but facebook and email and twitter and such make it very easy to keep up with everyone that you've met at various points in your life and by doing various activities in high school, college and stuff.
Thanks willow. When you live in NYC you know people have very good educations and jobs but they seem to not be able to think clearly.
I answered my friend by bringing things around to health care and jobs. I sent him Christine O'Donnell's explanation of what is wrong with health care as I think she has put out the best and clearest explanation yet. As far as jobs are concerned I sent him stuff that BO said before and now. See, it isn't just that my friend sent this out to me, he sent it out to all his friends and I was on that list. So this gave me a chance to respond to people I may not know. I basically said "guys, if the economy isn't good, if there are no jobs, then all the dumb social issues that the dems seem to think are important and all the union things that people think are important will not matter as there won't be an economy to fund this stuff and these people will lose anyway, they are wholly missing the big picture as are you"
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 03:48 PM (p302b)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:48 PM (iAu/o)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 07:46 PM (iAu/o)
Well you might be big enough to remain friends despite politics. Sadly you will often find that liberal friends do not feel the same way about it, and will drive you off for your views. Be ready.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 03:50 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:53 PM (iAu/o)
oldcat, i could tolerate them if they were not trying to tell me how to vote, which is what they do, i have told many politics and freiendships don't mix. they don't listen. my family are all rogue union members to them. well to bad frik them.
we can find other work
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:55 PM (iAu/o)
Oh I so understand how you feel. But I sort of feel that you need to know what is coming next. Sometimes in the early morning I've posted stuff that I've casually heard and then, it turns out to be something and we see ace and the co bloggers writing about it. In this respect I almost feel like what I hear from my friends is the next thing, they are sort of a barometer.
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 03:56 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Dick at October 19, 2010 03:58 PM (zpaxD)
well to bad frik them.
For the life of me, I can't remember ever being "frikked". Is it better than being fucked?
Posted by: Soona at October 19, 2010 03:58 PM (k+EMj)
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 03:59 PM (p302b)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 03:59 PM (iAu/o)
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 04:00 PM (iAu/o)
I get the tolerance and acceptance goal, but as I age, I don't have the naivete that I used to have that no one, philosophically, is a threat. The reality is that, to me, they can be. It's a divide I have a harder time bridging. These aren't trivial differences anymore and the differences manifest themselves indirectly through the intrusion of state (via votes) and directly (via speech/action). I can no longer look past these differences.
In conclusion, the "get off my lawn" platform isn't as kooky as it once was.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 04:02 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 04:03 PM (z1N6a)
drivel. said "get off my lawn"
that's basically what i said to the husbands dem friends, i asked them to end the discussion a few times. then i asked them to leave.
then i told my husbad to go make nice invite them over for the barbeque and keep them so drunk they all on their face on election eve,
i won't be there but i'll smile from another sensiable friends home. this has become war with these dopes, and i'm sick of the fear of no future for my kifds.
Posted by: willow at October 19, 2010 04:05 PM (iAu/o)
soona, hell no, one is pleasant the other is without ky
I shall ask no more. But what's with the Kentucky thing?
Posted by: Soona at October 19, 2010 04:06 PM (k+EMj)
Posted by: kansas at October 19, 2010 04:07 PM (2/XJV)
I get the tolerance and acceptance goal, but as I age, I don't have the naivete that I used to have that no one, philosophically, is a threat.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 19, 2010 08:02 PM (swuwV)
Well, tolerance doesn't mean I have to agree, or think that their views aren't foolish. I don't usually get into fusses since if I'm a guest I am polite, and if not I don't really care to change their minds. Life will do that for me, or they will be ruined by life. They have the tools to see the right path, I don't have to guide them.
It does irritate me when they turn on one of their own if they express any kind of dissenting view. In her own house, to boot. So much for tolerance.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 04:09 PM (z1N6a)
sona, heh
peace- i need to go hang out with my spouse.
Ah, don't go. I'll quit bothering you. I promise you as an honorable moron.
Posted by: Soona at October 19, 2010 04:12 PM (k+EMj)
Posted by: Greg at October 19, 2010 04:16 PM (T/jb3)
Posted by: DNC at October 19, 2010 04:16 PM (od7aZ)
Posted by: Greg at October 19, 2010 08:16 PM (T/jb3)
They just fill in the ballots in the backroom. Actual people are not required.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2010 04:23 PM (z1N6a)
"And what exactly has BO done for you? Is it the double digit unemployment? The one-in-seven on the government dole? The utter loss of face in front of the international community? The bowing to foreign potentates? The higher taxes on personal income? The increased insurance premiums coupled with loss of coverage? Be specific, please."
Posted by: Drumwaster at October 19, 2010 04:27 PM (dWFSK)
Posted by: g at October 19, 2010 05:00 PM (2I0rN)
Yup...all four of 'em.
Posted by: g at October 19, 2010 05:01 PM (2I0rN)
If you have a "liberal" friend who spouts off, just stop and calmly ask them questions. One after another.
These people are mindless when it comes to politics. They are incapable of defending their idiotic point of view because they weren't "reasoned" into it.
Posted by: stickety at October 19, 2010 05:07 PM (EsWC3)
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Posted by: Dan at October 19, 2010 05:26 PM (1jzSs)
I did my early voting at lunchtime today in Georgia. While not crowded there was a short line as they set you up. This polling place being out of your normal precinct, they had to look you up on the voter roles (you had to make sure you were registerd three weeks before the elction) and verify your picture ID (don't you wish your state had that voting requirement?)
Anyway, it was Governor - Deal - R (too close to do a message Libertarian vote and Deal is a little weasly, but Democrats must be punished). Senator-Isacson - R (I was tempted to vote L as he had a big lead and I could send a message but Thurmond (current AG) had not joined the suit against Obamacare - punish), GA-6th district, Price - good man, a doctor, opposes Obamacare night and day - R. Lt. Governor-R (Cagle's an idiot, but - PUNISH), Sec Labor -R (PUNISH)! Down the ticket it went R (PUNISH)! R (PUNISH)! R (PUNISH)! R (PUNISH)! R (PUNISH)!
What's this? Democrat is unapposed? Fuck it! Write myself in: Pumba D. Warthog. - Vote.
Non-partisan? All incumbants out. PUNISH!
(Now, if only everybody else in Georgia neglects to vote in the 5'th circut court judge race, you shall address me as Your Honor...)
Posted by: Warthog at October 19, 2010 05:30 PM (rlQnA)
sort of OT-
Did anyone watch the latest NCIS?
About crazy rich right wing people forming a domestic terrorist group?
This close to an election. It is as though they don't know who watches
the show. They have occasional liberal twitches, but usually don't go all out like this.
Posted by: redclay at October 19, 2010 06:20 PM (MJx6n)
Posted by: curious at October 19, 2010 07:59 PM (p302b)
What it means is that the booksellers are hungry...they've abandoned their liberal instincts and principles because they can't take the chance of missing a sale. Hunger is a powerful motivator. This economy is the shit. It's scary bad.
BTW... I bet it is the store owner/manager putting Savage out front...not the $8 buck/hr Obamabot behind the counter.
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2010 02:53 PM (9Cooa)