1

All in favor, say 'eye'.

2

in the hands of the Taliban-supporting ISI

THANK YOU.  The ISI run the government-behind-the-government of Pakistan.  So long as they're allowed to protect the Taliban, Al Qaeda and the other Islamicist terror groups in Pakistan, the war will keep grinding on.  It's in the ISI's interest to keep all those groups alive so that once the Americans leave the region, the ISI can reconstitute them all and use them as tools for regional domination.

3 Yep, he'll walk.

4 Doesn't he have a multi-million dollar price on his head? Maybe there's some haggling about the payment terms.

5 Great job by Obama again.

Gravity itself is because of Obama. If it were up to you rethuglikkkans, gravity would be given to Halliburton and we'd all float off into space and die.

6
Maybe he's bargaining for a boob job some pec implants.

7 He should be let go since Pakistan's ISI used racial profiling to catch him

8 Oh, and why would the ISI want to "take down" Mullah Omar?   Simple: they didn't take him down, they took him into protective custody.  Out running loose, he might well have found himself under the business end of a Predator-launched Hellfire missile;  as a guest of the ISI's hospitality, nothing bad will happen to him.

9

Gravity itself is because of Obama

 

Can't Obama ease up on the gravity a bit? It would be a lot easier than me losing 50 pounds.

10 Why should we care?  He's all the way in Pakistan.  What harm can he do to us?

11 Because Obama caught Omar and will bring him to trial, you teabaggrz will have nothing to run on and the Dems will pick up 500 seats in Congress

Axelrod will hand out extra juiceboxes too!

12

I think this guy is way to high-profile for the ISI just to kick loose without creating an even larger problems. I think even Obama would have a hard time sweeping that one under the rug, even were he to agree with the ISI, and he might.

They could kill him before they fully interrogate him. That would serve their purposes too.

13 Tim McVeigh was pen pals with Mullah Omar you know

14 ISI? Then he's not in custody until he's holding down a wet 2x12 at Gitmo.

15

Dammit, shut the hell up!

We're going to spring this on the public in October in a lame attempt to save our sorry asses!

16 Yeah his is in ISI custody like Bin lauden is in Iranian "custody"

17 >>>I think this guy is way to high-profile for the ISI just to kick loose without creating an even larger problems. "He escaped, sorry." But seriously, parts of the ISI might want to keep him in custody, but others might want to set him free, so that latter faction could find out where he is and pass that information to the Pakistan Taliban, etc. The guys who wind up getting killed in the escape might genuinely be anti-terrorists/anti-taliban, but sold out by their pro-taliban "colleagues."

18

in the hands of the Taliban-supporting ISI

 

Pretty much the equivalent of being a radical muslim terrorist being incarcerated in a Yemeni jail.

19 13 Tim McVeigh was pen pals with Mullah Omar you know I know that post was made in jest, but if anyone has any problems with the lack of investigation of links between McVeigh and possible foreign sponsors, they need to bring it up with the Clinton Administration.

20 We all know there is only one way to make sure...

21 "All in favor, say 'eye'."

No eyes from me.

22 With his 80-10,000 vision, escaping is not an option, he'll have to be led to safety.

23 This handsome guy is probably safer in ISI custody than out hiding in some cold damp cave

24 Possible ISI plan:

Nab Mullah O. Keep for a a while, long enough for everyone to know he's in custody. Give his boys time to hide and go underground. You know, stay safe at all.

Collect US reward $$$

Turn in M.O. to U.S. By now all plans have been canceled, and everyone has moved. His knowledge is useless.

ISI shares reward $$$ with Tollybahn as a gesture of good will.

25 22 I'm sure Pakistan will treat him just like they did Khan.

How about it Khan, are you game for a rematch? Khan ... I'm laughing at the superior intellect

26

"He escaped, sorry."

Sure, they could do that, but even with Obama at the helm, that comes dangerously close to, or is, 'overplaying their hand' that could have some inconvenient repercussions.

Then again, if they perceive Obama as so weak and timid he would never do anything about it, they might give it a try.

27 A smart administration, knowing all this, would arrange for an 'accidental' Predator strike to obliterate wherever he's being held, knowing the ISI won't get anything useful from him or hand him over. To bad we don't have a smart administration...

28

What's a goat going to do with $25mm?

 

Share it with his 'kids'!

29

Oliver North confirms?

Take what he says with a grain of salt. I'm just sayin'.

30 US tries to blunt Iran anti-sanctions push Published: 05.13.10, 22:00 / Israel News The United States moved Thursday to head off a joint Turkish-Brazilian effort that could help Iran avoid new United Nations sanctions over its suspect nuclear program. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton delivered a blunt message to Turkey's foreign minister, telling him that Iran is not serious about accepting international demands to prove its nuclear program peaceful. She said Tehran must face fresh penalties unless it does a quick about-face and complies Nobody but nobody takes these assholes in Washington seriously.

31 3 Yep, he'll walk.

Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2010 05:33 PM (6taRI)

Then we need to pay someone in the ISI off to tell us by which exit he'll be leaving.  The Pakistanis can hardly make a big stink over us whacking him if they were letting him walk.

32 Then we need to pay someone in the ISI off to tell us by which exit he'll be leaving. The Pakistanis can hardly make a big stink over us whacking him if they were letting him walk. Posted by: Ace's liver at May 13, 2010 05:58 PM (XIXhw) It's not a matter of letting him go- they are protecting him. He is their guy, their asset.

33

Nobody but nobody takes these assholes in Washington seriously.

 

They just don't know "smart diplomacy" whaen they see it.

34 Then again, if they perceive Obama as so weak and timid he would never do anything about it, they might give it a try.

Obama won't let Omar go because it's bad for him, politically.  Does anyone remember why Clinton got us involved in the Balkans?  Allbright had been threatening so much everyone decided to just ignore her, and it was making Clinton look bad.

35 stuiec has it right. Protective custody.

36 33 Then we need to pay someone in the ISI off to tell us by which exit he'll be leaving. The Pakistanis can hardly make a big stink over us whacking him if they were letting him walk.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 13, 2010 05:58 PM (XIXhw)

It's not a matter of letting him go- they are protecting him. He is their guy, their asset.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 13, 2010 05:59 PM (0GFWk)

Not anymore.  These days he's a liability, so I figure the most likely outcome here is a shallow grave in Waziristan.  Omar knows enough to embarrass the government in Pakistan.

37 I'm Mullah Omar!

38 O/T:  Ahh, yes.  The subliminal "becoming old really isn't all that great" meme to coincide with.....Death Panels !!!111!!  Convenient, no?

Can we be too healthy and live too long?

"I'm not just talking about the burden of bloated pensions or paying for Medicare, though these are real problems. I'm thinking about the cultural shifts an aging society is likely to endure. Off the top of my head, I'd say a senior-heavy population pyramid might see more cranky "tea partyers" and a less optimistic and forward-thinking culture. If the baby boomers live longer, we're bracing for a couple more decades of those nostalgic television shows that tell us how great the 1960s were.

If that isn't scary enough, take a look at Japan, which has the world's fastest-aging population. Its experience points to much more profound consequences: If too many of us live too long, however physically healthy we may be, it could lead to an epidemic of loneliness and ennui."

39 Not anymore. These days he's a liability, so I figure the most likely outcome here is a shallow grave in Waziristan. Omar knows enough to embarrass the government in Pakistan. Posted by: Ace's liver at May 13, 2010 06:03 PM (XIXhw) maybe to the central Gov in Islamabad ( such as it is ) but not to the ISI. Hey the Taliban are winning in Afganistan and holding their own in the Distant areas in Pakastan.

40 Not anymore. These days he's a liability, so I figure the most likely outcome here is a shallow grave in Waziristan. Omar knows enough to embarrass the government in Pakistan.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 13, 2010 06:03 PM (XIXhw)

maybe to the central Gov in Islamabad ( such as it is ) but not to the ISI. Hey the Taliban are winning in Afganistan and holding their own in the Distant areas in Pakastan.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 13, 2010 06:05 PM (0GFWk)

Too right.  The ISI views the "official" government in Islamabad as usurpers, led as it is by a man who was driven out of Pakistani politics for corruption that earned him the nickname "Mr. 10 Percent."  Of course, they sort of view any civilian government as illegitimate, because they believe they themselves are the only people wise and patriotic and committed enough to lead Pakistan to its rightful place at the world's top table.

41 It's being kept quiet because we are torturing the fuck out of him, and rightly so.

42 If too many of us live too long, however physically healthy we may be, it could lead to an epidemic of loneliness and ennui."

Posted by: Lady in Black (formerly Twinks until I found out what it really meant) at May 13, 2010 06:05 PM (VYKgG)

Ennui my ass!  I want to die at age 140, shot to death in bed by the jealous husband of the 22-year-old I am shtupping. 

43 42 It's being kept quiet because we are torturing the fuck out of him, and rightly so.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 13, 2010 06:11 PM (Zj8fM)

Hey Beavis, they're punishing the one-eyed cleric.  Huhuhuhuhuhuh huhuhuhuh!

Yeah yeah!  Heeheeheeheeheeheehee!

44 It's being kept quiet because we are torturing the fuck out of him, and rightly so.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 13, 2010 06:11 PM (Zj8fM)

"We"?  Are you suggesting the Pakistani ISI is on the same side as the USA?  Not so.  The ISI are the people who turned the Taliban into a fighting force to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan -- and then turned the Taliban against the pro-Western mujihadeen.  The ISI used the Taliban as a proxy for controlling the government in Afghanistan and to a large extent still do;  they also equip and train other Islamicist terror groups to go after foreign targets, as in the Mumbai massacre in November 2008.  The ISI are one of the great enemies of the West, on a par with the Iranian mullahocracy.

45 "8 Out running loose, he might well have found himself under the business end of a Predator-launched Hellfire missile; as a guest of the ISI's hospitality, nothing bad will happen to him." I believe I just heard a hammer striking a nail directly on the center.

46

Why worrry?  Why get so upset?  If the libtards are so into Obama, the mostly strong leftist run cities are going to have to deal with the result.  The vast right wing conspiracy folks need to just stay out of Time Square and NYC.  After all, it will just be George Buooosshess fault!

47

I can't believe that the second Facebook post of the day has killed this thread on a smart military blog.

48

sight... have the left started screaming about his rights, asked if he was mirandized, given his Q'uran, given his snuggle? his cell phone? his conjugal visits? asked that he be sent to NY for a fair trial, with a jury of HIS peers??  give it time...gee, don't tell me this administration kept rendition, that would just be wrong!

49 maybe to the central Gov in Islamabad ( such as it is ) but not to the ISI. Hey the Taliban are winning in Afganistan and holding their own in the Distant areas in Pakastan.

Winning?  No.  No, they are not winning in Afghanistan.  In fact, the trend lines are going heavily against them.  They switched from small-unit warfare to IEDs for the same reason the Iraqis did - they were getting their asses kicked.  And it's a desperation move just like it was in Iraq.

The Taliban aren't even the biggest problem in Afghanistan.  The big problem is we can't get a central government in there the people consider legitimate.

50 What with a Breitbart site being the first source on this, I just assume somebody with security clearance is testing the new and old media schema by leaking information to strictly non-MSM sources. Breitbart probably told them, keep the story in the news, one non-MSM source confirmation after another, and keep an eye out for real MSM responding with false information, indifference, smears, etc. Bonus points if Robert Gibbs lies about it, mega bonus points if Obama himself lies about it.

51 well and pakistan these days. are taliban sympathizers last i heard (skeered of them ) really aren't so interested in helping them get to the other side of the whole Taliban threats in their own country.

52 The Taliban aren't even the biggest problem in Afghanistan.  The big problem is we can't get a central government in there the people consider legitimate.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 13, 2010 07:13 PM (XIXhw)

Good - you're on the right track.

Next step: the Taliban are continuing to cause enough disruption that the US and UK are losing the will to stay in Afghanistan until a stable and legitimate government is formed.

Next step: Obama comes up with some kind of face-saving deal to get the US out of Afghanistan.  "Peace with Honor," I expect he will say.

Next step: the ISI pours money and resources into reconstituting the Taliban in Afghanistan and they overrun whatever rump government we leave behind.  And then the ISI will make Afghanistan back into a de facto satrapy of Pakistan, and can then turn its full attention to terrorism against India and the conquest of Kashmir.

But... stop the ISI from meddling, and maybe the Taliban can really be suppressed enough to stop disrupting the civil reconstruction of Afghanistan's government and infrastructure.  And maybe there won't be as many Alliance deaths creating political pressure to withdraw.  And maybe we'll have time to help the Afghans create more than a rump government.  And maybe after we go, the Taliban won't have such an easy time reconstituting to take out the Afghan government.

53 #53, yeah, and with that in mind I can't figure out the Times Square bombing.

The Taliban just have to run out the clock in Afghanistan, and their ISI overlords are probably going to stage a coup in Pakistan and take over within three years.

So why the fuck are they going to carry out an attack against a city that generally supports the same US isolationism that works in their favor? Why are they going to want to get their names in the paper as a threat to us on our own soil? Not "me", personally, since I'm hiding out in the rural South, but "us" as in "we Americans".

Tom Kratman once said there was something in Muslim culture that led them to "Make Really Wrong Decision Right About Now". North African pirates give an excuse to Thomas Jefferson's naval construction program. Saddam Hussein giving us a really good excuse for a big live-fire ShootEx in 1991 to close out the Cold War armed forces. I wonder if this might be the start of another cycle of "we fucked up" for them.

54 2

Not to mention sweet foreign aid dollars. I don't understand why we give the Pakistani government money, then the ISI works against us.

55 The guys who wind up getting killed in the escape might genuinely be anti-terrorists/anti-taliban, but sold out by their pro-taliban "colleagues."

And we're the divided nation with one side being ball-sucking terrorists?

56 In 1981, Obama visits his mother and half-sister in Indonesia, and then continues on for three weeks to Karachi, Pakistan and Hyderabad, India, with his friends Chandoo and Hamid, and finally to Kenya to visit his father's family. One of Obama's hosts in Pakistan is Muhammadian Mian Soomro, Obama's senior by 11 years, son of a Pakistani politician and himself a politician, who later becomes interim President of Pakistan when Pervez Musharraf resigns in August of 2008. Soomro states that "someone" personally requested that he "watch over" Barack Obama, but Soomro will not name that individual – who today allegedly lives in South America.

It is unknown who financed Obama's costly 1981 trip.

Two of the most important Passport contacts are the Occidental friends:
Wahid Hamid, (wealthy Pakistian)Â…

Obama travelled with him to Pakistan, 1981
Hamid lives and works in New York, NY ( PepsiCo, Inc. – SVP)

Mohammed Hasan Chandoo,(wealthy Pakistian)

Obama stayed with his family in Karach, 1981.

Hasan Chandoo has maintained contact with Obama: attended wedding in /92 and is listed as a top contributor. He is a now a self-employed financial consultant living in Armonk, New York, 10504.

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