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October 11, 2010

Holy Schneikes: Jake Tapper Asks About Long Form Birth Certificate
— Ace

No, not in the sense that he's interested in the Birth Certificate conspiracy. But rather to ask, if Obama's people want to go on a fishing expedition with the Chamber of Commerce and "disclose everything," where is the leadership from the top on this?

He starts asking about the birth certificate in the last two questions, but the whole interview with Axelrod is worth reading.

John McCormack from the WS sniped on Twitter: "David Axerold just demanded that the Chamber of Commerce produce its long-form birth certificate."

Posted by: Ace at 03:07 PM | Comments (133)
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1 Great question.

Posted by: Paradigm Shift at October 11, 2010 03:08 PM (pPXqD)

2
Timing needs to be questioned in 3, 2, ...

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 11, 2010 03:09 PM (2NNz2)

3 Link isn't working for me, anyone else having the problem?

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2010 03:10 PM (oVQFe)

4 You know, if the leading lights of the State Media starting applying the same standards to the right and the left, every election would be like the one we are about to have.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2010 03:11 PM (bgcml)

5 Seventh?

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 11, 2010 03:11 PM (0LABp)

6
The fact that the anti-free enterprise modern socialist progressive democrat party is openly spreading lies about THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, really shows how the democrat party is not your father's democrat party.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:11 PM (0fzsA)

7 Ah, Ace, you have a c at the end of the url making it .htmlc instead of .html

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2010 03:11 PM (oVQFe)

8 Pissy Chrissy is fappin' up a storm about the Osama Obama regime stickin' it to the Man!

Chrissy has never met a fact he couldn't twist or ignore.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 11, 2010 03:11 PM (Ulu3i)

9
linky no work.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:12 PM (0fzsA)

10 And when did you stop beating your wife?

Maybe we on the right, and a select few media types who want to maintain credibility and dignity, have finally learned how to fight back.

Posted by: pep at October 11, 2010 03:12 PM (8zlLq)

11
Obama's Enemies List is the long form.

Posted by: Dang at October 11, 2010 03:12 PM (TXKVh)

12 Oh snap! Get transcripts, SAT score, and financial aid information from college too Jake.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen from somewhere in dar al-harb at October 11, 2010 03:12 PM (Iw4dM)

13 Tapper is working for a high paying job on Fux News.

Posted by: denny crane at October 11, 2010 03:12 PM (7+pP9)

14 10 And when did you stop beating your wife?

Stop?

Posted by: Mike Tyson at October 11, 2010 03:13 PM (8zlLq)

15 While it is pleasant to see push back against this president and all his shenanigans such a question is too easily dismissed as "fringe".

It will be nice when the American people demand more of their politicians by replacing a lot of dead wood. But it will be even nicer when we demand decorum, civility and respect as the employers of those sons of bitches.

And get what we demand!

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 11, 2010 03:13 PM (0LABp)

16
JT isn't going to be long for this world.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 11, 2010 03:14 PM (5G5c/)

Oh boy let's look at this gem by Axelrod:

AXELROD: I would be for disclosure for everyone. The American people ought to know where millions and millions of dollars in our campaigns are coming from. Whether they are supporting Democrats or Republicans. Transparency is what we need in the political system. What we donÂ’t need are special interests spending millions of dollars in these campaigns, to influence these campaign, never owning up to it, but having more muscle in the congress than they already have.

Does that mean they're going to turn on their verification system for credit card online donations in the next election?

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2010 03:14 PM (oVQFe)

18
Axelrod's gots him some mad debate skillz!

Posted by: Dang at October 11, 2010 03:14 PM (TXKVh)

19 Off topic but the latest RCP polls have us up another seat. +51.5

NY19 slipped to the Leans Rep side.

http://nanhayworth.com/

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2010 03:15 PM (bgcml)

20 Is that you at #13, Erg.

How IS that chicken?

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 11, 2010 03:15 PM (0LABp)

21 This is why you shouldn't dive into the water to save someone who is drowning. They begin to panic and will take you down with them.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at October 11, 2010 03:15 PM (vssPi)

22 Link no worky and
Hey! Nom de Blog! Long time no see! How ya doing?

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2010 03:16 PM (Ew1k4)

23 AXELROD: Someone once in the course of this debate about whether we should have a law to force these organizations to disclose where theyÂ’re money is coming from in the campaigns, someone said, and I think theyÂ’re right Â– Â“the only people who want to keep things secret are folks who have something to hide.Â”

that last bit is particularly chilling coming from Pres'ent SevenIron's top advisor.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team at October 11, 2010 03:16 PM (eCAn3)

24 Whens the next flight home to Chicago for Axelrod?

Posted by: Jean at October 11, 2010 03:16 PM (qdhtw)

25 Oh, and continuing the offtopicness, apparently the book tosser is an Obamaunist...

The US Secret Service found and interviewed the man who threw the book onstage. He was deemed to be an Â“overexhuberantÂ” supporter who wanted the President to have a copy of a book he had written, according the Special Agent Edwin Donovan of the Secret Service in Washington. Â“He was deemed not to be a threat and was not arrested,Â” Donovan told ABC News.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2010 03:16 PM (bgcml)

What we donÂ’t need are special interests UNIONS spending millions of dollars in these campaigns, to influence these campaign, never owning up to it, but having more muscle in the congress than they already have.

Let's be accurate, Comrade Combover.

Posted by: Cicero at October 11, 2010 03:16 PM (QKKT0)

27
from Hotair

"Last week, Barack Obama himself accused the Chamber of Commerce of using foreign money to push its domestic political activism, which would violate election law. Unfortunately, as the Times reports, the White House had absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing. And Obama failed to mention that plenty of groups on the Left, especially labor unions, raise money outside the US as well. [oops]

Now the White House is trying to step back from their earlier accusations of illegality, but theyÂ’re still desperately trying to hang onto the line of attack:

Is that how it works in the United States in the era of Hopenchange? The President makes an accusation of lawbreaking without any evidence of it, and the entity accused has to prove their innocence? In this country, the government has to prove its case, not the defendant, and even before making an accusation of wrongdoing usually has to have some evidence of the crime in the first place."

Modern McCarthyism -- Thy name is the modern progressive democrat party.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (0fzsA)

28 Let's see if this LINK works.

Posted by: mrp at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (HjPtV)

29 hey denny, you're impressing me, what with the ability to post with that cock in your mouth. well done man, well done.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (eCAn3)

Over at Dan Riehl's Place

Allen West's primary opponent, a REPUBLICAN, endorses Klein the Democrat.

Jesus Christ, this election season is insane. I know the left likes to say we are in a civil war, but really is there any other way to describe it?

The "moderates" or Career Republicans as I like to call them don't want to cede any control the the Tea Party or Conservatives, so much so that they are willing to screw over the Republicans in the general election.

Say all you want about the Tea Party people, but their candidates, as far as I know, haven't been endorsing the Democrat when they lose the primary.

Posted by: Ben at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (DKV43)

31 that last bit is particularly chilling coming from Pres'ent SevenIron's top advisor.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team at October 11, 2010 07:16 PM (eCAn3)

Why can't I find a river called projection on this map of Egypt?

Posted by: David Axelrod at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (bgcml)

32
Well look, um, we've all had a, ah... we've all had a herd of gerbils, um, up our ass, and, you know, it ah, it makes it hard to, um...concentrate.

Posted by: Barackus Obamakus at October 11, 2010 03:17 PM (rMMMP)

33 Jake Tapper starring in Off The Reservation.

Posted by: DelD at October 11, 2010 03:18 PM (oAZ1S)

Funny how Axel-stache is all in favor of complete disclosure about a day after Soros claims he's tapped out.

Oh, and the URL? Buzzion nails it. Clip the "c" off the end and you're good to go.

Well done, buzzion.

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 11, 2010 03:18 PM (rplL3)

hey denny, you're impressing me, what with the ability to post with that cock in your mouth. well done man, well done.

That's nothing. He can post with a dick in his mouth and his ass at the same time. He calls it multitasking.

Posted by: Cicero at October 11, 2010 03:18 PM (QKKT0)

36
Remember, it's not the nature of the evidence that is relevant. It's the seriousness of the charge. ...

Posted by: Eric Holder, Final Decider at October 11, 2010 03:20 PM (v1gw3)

I find this entire discussion and especially Axelrod's statements eerily threatening.

You know why they want to know who the donors are, don't you?

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2010 03:20 PM (2/9CB)

38 Don't worry Ed Anger, eventually everyone will figure out when its you sockpuppeting denny crane.

Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2010 03:20 PM (oVQFe)

39 Posted by: buzzion at October 11, 2010 07:14 PM (oVQFe)

No, just the act that would allow no disclosure for union politicking and onerous requirements for everyone else.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at October 11, 2010 03:20 PM (1Mn8Z)

40 html, Ace, not htmlc in the link URL

Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2010 03:20 PM (oLT/p)

That's nothing. He can post with a dick in his mouth and his ass at the same time. He calls it multitasking.

Posted by: Cicero at October 11, 2010 07:18 PM (QKKT0)

odd that with skills like those, he remains chronically unemployed.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Pro Debate Team at October 11, 2010 03:21 PM (eCAn3)

42 Some one's Link Fu sure does suck the old balloon knot.

Posted by: Pornoy at October 11, 2010 03:21 PM (azgo2)

43 Hey speaking of disclosure, whaddup with Joe Miller? There's been some talk that he politicked on the public dime when he worked for the Fairbanks North Star Borough. Last Thursday the Borough itself demanded he change misleading statements on his website, Miller says he'll hold a press conference today, cancels the press conference, and then releases a statement saying he's not doing any more talking about his personal background for the rest of the campaign.

Posted by: arhooley at October 11, 2010 03:21 PM (W9Nvi)

44
29 - your linnk works.

Tapper nails it:

TAPPER: But there's a difference between the Chamber and some of these other organizations, right? The Chamber we know what it stands for , we know basically the money is coming from big business and corporations. These other groups I understand, they have names like Â“Americans For ProsperityÂ” we donÂ’t know what they stand for or whoÂ’s behind it. But the Chamber is different, isnÂ’t it?

The left is funded by....??? oh yeah - we don't need to know.
The Chamber is funded by private enterprise, and the Obama administration wants an enemies list.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:22 PM (0fzsA)

45 O/T: but startling...though not unexpected...."US Drops From First To Seventh In Average Wealth Per Adult, Behind Singapore, Sweden, And... France" link (for chart lovers, there's a chart!)

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 03:22 PM (p302b)

46 What are these 'standards' of which you speak? Or these 'birth certificates'?

Posted by: Person without no steenken badge at October 11, 2010 03:23 PM (h0RtZ)

47 OH I would LOVE for the american people to learn the handful of people who fund moveOn and the like. If fact I was just thinking that if we restrict donations to candidates to $5400 then no one should be allowed to donate more than that to a PAC. Put your name to your smear commercials Soros. That should be legal but hiding behind a dozen PACs should not be.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 11, 2010 03:23 PM (dkExz)

48 Haha ---no answer to "the long form?" hahahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2010 03:24 PM (2/9CB)

49 Long Form, Original - Baby Doe found in alley behind strip bar.

Administratively Amended Sort Form - BHO, JR, Mother Stanley... Father BHO...

Posted by: Druid at October 11, 2010 03:24 PM (VSOCz)

50 Delete the 'c' at the very end of the link, numbnuts. It should be .html, not .htmlc

Posted by: FPW at October 11, 2010 03:25 PM (TV27A)

51 That's nothing. He can post with a dick in his mouth and his ass at the same time. He calls it multitasking.

Have to use a wireless keyboard when you're spinning like a hog on a spit.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 11, 2010 03:25 PM (euRkK)

52 Posted by: Ben at October 11, 2010 07:17 PM (DKV43)

Apparently, the VFW endorsed West's opponent too. WTF???

Posted by: Pornoy at October 11, 2010 03:29 PM (azgo2)

53
The democrats want an enemies list.

Period.
Axehead is demanding a list of donors so that the democrats can turn around and rat-fuck them.

Free speech belongs to democrats and unions.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:29 PM (0fzsA)

54 I'm not demonizing anyone, just all of the big money, fascist pigs who run $75-million in racist, homophobic ad campaigns.

Posted by: david axelknob at October 11, 2010 03:30 PM (oLT/p)

55 Who is Doodad Pro, while we're at it?

Posted by: nickless at October 11, 2010 03:30 PM (MMC8r)

56 What does sneikes mean?

Posted by: harry reid at October 11, 2010 03:32 PM (jChrK)

57 Â“the only people who want to keep things secret are folks who have something to hide.Â”

I wonder what would happen if we applied the administration's new principle universally, say...
A)The Obama's financial records, like who paid for his schooling and 'vactaions.'
B)The White House guest list
C)Half a century of abortion records
D)Anything at all related to the MBS scheme

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2010 03:32 PM (Ew1k4)

58
I see pro-democrat ads that don't even mention who or what or where the support is coming from.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:32 PM (0fzsA)

59 I'm sure they'll start with targeted IRS audits.
I just warned Tapper to expect that for himself over the next two years, Soap.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2010 03:33 PM (oLT/p)

60 Hell, I'm a member of the CoC, and I have to say that they are about as non political a group as any I have been involved with.

Historically speaking the local Chamber I belong to worries more about small biz regs, and drinking than who was in any office.

But obamacare has them fighting mad. The stage is set to destroy small businesses in this country with what amounts to government mandated economic slavery, and meanwhile the big boys like McDonalds get waivers out the wazooo.

It's fucking bullshit, and the CoC is starting to call them out on it.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 11, 2010 03:33 PM (1mE2s)

61 Barack Obama: Pissing America off, ten thousand voters at a time.

I think that's underestimating by a factor.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 11, 2010 03:33 PM (bQ5xy)

62
Lets get to the bottom of who funded Obama's 2008 campaign.

I want a list of all foreign credit cards. We the people demand that list.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:34 PM (0fzsA)

63 My 't' took the fucking day off..

Posted by: Portnoy at October 11, 2010 03:34 PM (azgo2)

64 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 07:32 PM (0fzsA)

Like say, all of the programming on CNN, MSNBC, etc????

Posted by: Portnoy at October 11, 2010 03:35 PM (azgo2)

65 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 07:34 PM (0fzsA)

Do you remember something odd towards the end of the campaign when they said that it was found out that something had been disabled at their donation site and some blog made a big deal about it but John McShame was "the quiet man" and put a lid on Sarah, so nothing came of it....

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 03:35 PM (p302b)

Well, maybe, just maybe, someone will be willing to ask the jugeared fuck & his ilk where all the campaign cash is coming from the next time he runs.

I'll sure be glad when this election is over. I need to take a few weeks off from listening to, reading about & seeing these lying pricks. My mental health & blood pressure depend on it.

Posted by: Steph at October 11, 2010 03:36 PM (ZfkPl)

67
You guys are pretty rough on the ewok, he does pretty well for having tiny little fingers and lice.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 11, 2010 03:36 PM (5G5c/)

68
68 -
That was FREE!

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:36 PM (0fzsA)

69 Posted by: Ben at October 11, 2010 07:17 PM (DKV43)

Apparently, the VFW endorsed West's opponent too. WTF???

Posted by: Pornoy at October 11, 2010 07:29 PM (azgo2)

Fox & Friends had a retired general on this morning talking about all the crazy-arse endorsements the VFW is making. Membership is fuming, The general said he doesn't even know why they need a pac. Word is out about all the shenanigans, and not just on blogs.

Posted by: Rushbabe at October 11, 2010 03:36 PM (a3Z62)

The left is funded by....??? oh yeah - we don't need to know.
The Chamber is funded by private enterprise, and the Obama administration wants an enemies list.

Actually, I'm finding a bit of schaudenfreud concerning the CofC. Weren't they french kissing Dear Leader's ass earlier this year?

Posted by: Harry at October 11, 2010 03:37 PM (OrzFO)

71 My 't' took the fucking day off..

Posted by: Portnoy at October 11, 2010 07:34 PM (azgo2)

I knew it was you all the time.

Posted by: Rushbabe at October 11, 2010 03:37 PM (a3Z62)

72
Democrats accuse people of doing the very corrupt things they already do.
Lying for a living does that to people. and the free speech thing really pisses them off. Democreeps really think they own free speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:38 PM (0fzsA)

73 Tomorrow, early morning at the Tapper residence. Silence is broken by Jake's screams of "Holy shit there's a horse head in my bed!"

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at October 11, 2010 03:38 PM (zUEDs)

74 You guys are pretty rough on the ewok, he does pretty well for having tiny little fingers and lice.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 11, 2010 07:36 PM (5G5c/)

Not to mention the orange buck teeth and jaundiced eyes.

Posted by: Rushbabe at October 11, 2010 03:39 PM (a3Z62)

75
74. Not to my knowledge. but feel free to enlighten.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:39 PM (0fzsA)

76 Methos,
I'm well. Thanks for asking. You?

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 11, 2010 03:39 PM (0LABp)

77 Actually, I'm finding a bit of schaudenfreud concerning the CofC. Weren't they french kissing Dear Leader's ass earlier this year?

Yeah it was over stimulus funds and low interest loans. A lot of the smaller industrial barons were frothing at the mouth trying to find new ways to apply for them.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at October 11, 2010 03:39 PM (1mE2s)

78 O/T: Wow, she only got "$8,985,334.00" ?

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 03:39 PM (p302b)

79 Like the Hoover damn is breaking all over me and the rest of the Triumvirate.

Posted by: harry reid at October 11, 2010 03:40 PM (jChrK)

80 Democreeps really think they own free speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 07:38 PM (0fzsA

They think they have a right to own everything & everybody. They sure as hell don't want anyone to step out of line.

Posted by: Steph at October 11, 2010 03:40 PM (ZfkPl)

81 Hey, I have a great idea! Let's attack an organization that represents small businesses across the US. Yeah, those things that are responsible for the bulk of employment!

Now, don't everyone praise me all at once. I'd like to hear each word of how fucking smart I am one syllable at a time.

Posted by: Pres. Barry Whistledick McGolfbagg at October 11, 2010 03:40 PM (23kaI)

82 Great response from George Will but I haven't been able to post it as a link.
http://tinyurl.com/2al5vaq

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2010 03:41 PM (d6Kwc)

83 69 curious - Nope. don't remember. I was blinded by Hope-n-Change.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:41 PM (0fzsA)

84 So George Will's point is that the AFL CIO donates mucho money to dems, and accept dues from foreign entities.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2010 03:43 PM (d6Kwc)

85 Sean Hannity six months from now: "welcome co-host Jake Tapper, you're a great American!"

Posted by: denny crane at October 11, 2010 03:44 PM (7+pP9)

86 Â“the only people who want to keep things secret are folks who have something to hide.Â”

I hope the LA TIMES sees this as a call to release the Obama/Khalidi video.

Posted by: MayBee at October 11, 2010 03:44 PM (WetPl)

87 Alright. This is officially the saddest Obama lovin' video I've seen. At least it was before he was president.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 11, 2010 03:45 PM (5I0Yr)

I'll admit to being somewhat ignorant on the birth certificate issue.

My own parents happened to lose the birth certificate they got when I was born - my mother swears she never received a certificate with the baby footprints and handprints. But I've had to submit a certified copy of the certificate for various governmental purposes - I've made requests to the state and I've gotten the copies.

Is Obama refusing to release any copy? Or is it just the original he won't produce? Can someone enlighten me?

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at October 11, 2010 03:45 PM (BpBIE)

89 O/T - The "O" brand is officially in the terlet.

Posted by: Rushbabe at October 11, 2010 03:45 PM (a3Z62)

Obama done stuck his dick in the blender, and Axelturf what punched "Puree".

Posted by: KORD at October 11, 2010 03:46 PM (thr9V)

I don't think that 'alinsky' thing is continuing to work as planned. Seems Slinskey didn't realize that some people actually have a brain & know how to read. What's that little ditty about fooling people?

Posted by: Steph at October 11, 2010 03:46 PM (ZfkPl)

92 "Tapper is working for a high paying job on Fux News."
Yeah, cause there really can't be any other explanation for a member of the liberal media seriously questioning a member of His Awesomeness' administration. Tapper needs to get with the program and stick to softball questions like a good little butt kisser.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2010 03:46 PM (d6Kwc)

93 88 Yeah. I remember. I think there were some experiments going on where people were sending $2 and using weird foreign addresses and names and Obama's campaign still accepted the money with not only the name and address not matching the credit card but with names like "Osama Bin Laden, some cave Pakistan" as the donor. McLame of course just wanted to continue to fondle hopenchange across the aisle and the media had their mouths full of kenyan dick, so nothing happened.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2010 03:46 PM (gv4ve)

94 Still out of work, but otherwise ok, Nom. On the upside, I've been able to do a fair amount of volunteering in and through my church. Health is good and my family loves me, so I guess about as well as anyone these days.

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2010 03:48 PM (Ew1k4)

95 87 nerdygirl-

George Will: [who hardly gets a word in] "The question is, why is a huge deal being made of it? Because in 2008, the so-called independent groups outspent Republicans three to one. A big deal is being made of it now because Republicans are outspending..."

Gag - I had to read the insane stupidity of far-left-wing crap bags at Crooks and fucktards. please, no more.

oh and those scary Koch brothers. How dare they access free speech in America! Scary scary scary booga booga.

Koch brothers need to get in line behind the democrats, or shut up.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:50 PM (0fzsA)

Posted by: denny crane at October 11, 2010 07:44 PM (7+pP9)

Nice one Ed.

Jake Tapper is looking out for the folks, in his new weekly segment with Bill O'Reilly aptly named, "Tappin It In", right after the body language expert.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 11, 2010 03:50 PM (/ebqR)

97 The Obama admin doubles down on stupid every time. They really don't seem to learn from their mistakes.

Posted by: Mayday at October 11, 2010 03:50 PM (TRgli)

98 Posted by: Ex-CNN President Jon Klein at October 11, 2010 07:49 PM (G/MYk)

you're ezra's daddy?

Posted by: curious at October 11, 2010 03:52 PM (p302b)

Liny no worky, perhaps coz it is negative reporting on The Chosen One? Hmmmmmmmmm?????

While I welcome our new Ant overlords, I question the timing of this item going down the Yahoo rathole.

Posted by: mike d at October 11, 2010 03:52 PM (W0V5W)

100

Yeah, the baby handprints and footprints aren't a birth certificate at all. They are just a little hospital keepsake and have no legal worth whatsoever. In most states the mother fills out the name of the baby, her age, the father of the baby, his age and everybody's place of birth. The name is recorded as the baby's name, date, parents, parent's ages and their birth places and filed with the state.

The parent has to send in $$ to the state with a form requesting the birth certificate. The state then complies by sending to the parent ORIGINAL copies of the child's birth certificate which contains the information required to be on it by law. This is the long form birth certificate. The parent's original is really a copy of what exists in the state capital but is not a copy for all business for the individual.

Apparently Obama has not show a copy or the state owned original with all of the information on it but rather a "certificate of live birth" which is some sort of bastardized copy with nothing but his name and whatever.

Posted by: dagny at October 11, 2010 03:52 PM (gv4ve)

101 Next Target for Axel-stache: The Rotarians. Seriously, folks. What do you think those guys are talking about over lunch? Fucking the little guy, that's what.

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 11, 2010 03:53 PM (rplL3)

102
The Obama admin doubles down on stupid every time.

Their 'base' doesn't care, they eat the bullshit by the truckload.

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 11, 2010 03:54 PM (5G5c/)

103
Scary scary Koch brothers. How dare they access free speech. They are brain-washing everyone! I'm scared. Save us, oh keepers of sacred PC one-way street speech, precious sacred democrats.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 03:55 PM (0fzsA)

104 My 't' took the fucking day off..

Posted by: Portnoy

Always with the complaints!

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at October 11, 2010 03:58 PM (kJXs1)

105

74. Not to my knowledge. but feel free to enlighten.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 07:39 PM (0fzsA)

Didn't the head of CofC (Donahue?) send Obama some love letters that said the CofC doesn't agree with how you're doing things, but your goals and our goals are the same? I think it was right at the first of the year.

Posted by: Harry at October 11, 2010 04:00 PM (OrzFO)

106 Can someone enlighten me?

LOL
The short version is somebody interviewed his Kenyan grandmother who claimed to have witnessed his birth in her country. To counter that Obama relesed the CoLB mentioned by dagny at 106. Which many people feel is insufficient. However many other people (including most every righty blogger) want the discussion to go away because it smacks of conspiracy theory. In some cases, attempts to fill in the details through guesswork does get a touch sketchy. And there's a related issue of what exactly "natural born citizen" means-but most talk of that gets discouraged for much the same "Conspiracy theory! Oh Noes!!!" reason.

Diogeneslamp and Gabe could give you a more thorough breakdown of both sides of the issue.

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2010 04:01 PM (Ew1k4)

107 Would not surprise me if the Koskids have their orders to start putting stuff online so that google comes up with bogus articles on this.

Posted by: gesc at October 11, 2010 04:03 PM (HMLVZ)

108 Anyone want to watch me kill a stubborn sock?

Posted by: Soona at October 11, 2010 04:03 PM (OrzFO)

109 109 - Boo!

Posted by: Koch Bros. at October 11, 2010 04:03 PM (HjxoE)

110 ZING

Posted by: TimothyCapwell at October 11, 2010 04:09 PM (/7m2e)

111

AXELROD: Someone once in the course of this debate about whether we should have a law to force these organizations to disclose where theyÂ’re money is coming from in the campaigns, someone said, and I think theyÂ’re right Â– Â“the only people who want to keep things secret are folks who have something to hide

Weren't Bush and Company derided and called fascist when they made this same statement about the Patriot Act?

I'm trying to understand when it is OK to say certain things, and when it isn't. I think it works like 'it is ok if it is said by a Democrat or a supporter of a Democrat.'

Posted by: HHS at October 11, 2010 04:10 PM (X1Y8q)

112

Oh, and Axelrod can suck me.

I have nothing to hide, but if someone tries to search my property without cause and a warrant, they'll be sending a mortician to collect the body.

Posted by: HHS at October 11, 2010 04:11 PM (X1Y8q)

113 Speaking of "proof," has Axelrod given any that he is not a serial child molester? Because if he ain't one, he sure does do the best impression of one that I've ever seen.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 11, 2010 04:17 PM (tJjm/)

114 OK, the link to the ABC blog should now be fixed. Happy clicking.

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 11, 2010 04:19 PM (Id5+U)

115 Barky and Axey seem to have forgotten what happens when you live in a glass house. Payback's a bitch, and somebody opened their mouth before thinking about the consequences.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 11, 2010 04:25 PM (AAN7N)

116 Let's just pause for a moment and celebrate what a perfect name "Axelrod" is for such a fucking tool.

Posted by: MaltPointer at October 11, 2010 04:25 PM (nPsZc)

117 Because if he ain't one, he sure does do the best impression of one that I've ever seen.

I always thought he was doing a Hitler 'separated at birth' thing.

Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2010 04:27 PM (Ew1k4)

118 28

Is that how it works in the United States in the era of Hopenchange? The President makes an accusation of lawbreaking without any evidence of it, and the entity accused has to prove their innocence? In this country, the government has to prove its case, not the defendant, and even before making an accusation of wrongdoing usually has to have some evidence of the crime in the first place."

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 11, 2010 07:17 PM (0fzsA)

US / Constitution / or not - it is the burden of the one claiming an EVENT to prove the event occurred.

Posted by: Druid at October 11, 2010 04:39 PM (VSOCz)

119 Belated thanks dagny & Methos. Just trying to see if I could pass the smell test myself not having an "original".

Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at October 11, 2010 04:49 PM (BpBIE)

120 The whole Obama magical sandcastle in the sky is crumbling down. Amazing!

Posted by: Drinky Crow at October 11, 2010 04:52 PM (5+Fvb)

121 123 Let's just pause for a moment and celebrate what a perfect name "Axelrod" is for such a fucking tool.

Add on David Plouffe: "Axelrod and Plouffe" sounds like a buddy-cop-themed ghey porno.

Posted by: Drinky Crow at October 11, 2010 05:06 PM (5+Fvb)

122 Wow, I can't believe that Axelrod is still f'ing this chicken. He was peddling the same line over the weekend to Scheiffer, who (color me shocked) generally told him the whole thing was stupid and asked why he was still f'ing ghe chicken. Props to Tapper. I also found myself screaming about birth certificates, transcripts, passports, SSN, and the rest when I caught the weekend clip. Tapper must be monitoring me brain. Where is my tinfoil hat!

Posted by: Damiano at October 11, 2010 06:57 PM (PA722)

123 Didn't some Republican bureaucrat in Hawaii claim to have seen the BC of Lord Zero? And according to our betters, we should just take his word for it? After all, the hack is a REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!112!!!

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 11, 2010 08:37 PM (XXLiO)

124

Tapper is tip-toeing around ticking off some tough tyrannical

toadies.

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