1 Rubio is the anti-Crist.

2 Rubio has been laying quiet until after the primaries Aug 24.

In the last fund-raising quarter, Rubio broke all statewide records for funds raised. Why waste money when he doesn't have too on primary voters. He is a shoo-in now for the R nomination. He is doing personal appearances around the state though, building his base., raising more money.

Patience ...

3 Just wait until I release my three part front page story on how extreme Rubio is.

4 Now don't you go thinking I'm like that with everyone, son...

5 lowandslow... You forgot one thing, the seniors are well aware of the death panels in ObamaKare ...

6 Obama endorsing a mosque on Ground Zero that only 20 percent of Americans approve of.......a clear sign of Obama's calm rational moderate thinking. Rubio eating Cherios in the morning.........a clear sign of racism and right wing extremism. He crushing "O's" with his teeth, a signal that he wants Obama to die.

7 Ace I get the feeling we're being racist against Greek Oompa-Loompas or something.....

8 Floridian here that's voting for Rubio on Aug 24th and Nov 2nd, this doesn't come as a shock to me, the only reason Crist got up in the polls was because

1. he was a popular Governor
2. he had a crisis fall into his lap (the oil spill)
3. the primaries had yet to happen and the campaign hadn't really begun

and add to that Dems flirting w/ voting for him, everyone was freaking out and insulting Floridians when they saw Crist up and I calmed everyone down explaining thngs will pick up after the primaries which are pratically here, and because the primaries are here Floridians are getting involved and this is what i've noticed:

1. they've decided they don't like Crist (his approval rating has suddenly tanked the last month, and yes i'm aware Ras claims it's at 58% but other polls have it in the 40s)
2. they've decided Rick Scott is too risky and seem to be flocking back to McCullum (thank God in my opinion, though i'll admit the lesser of two evils)
3. they REALLY REGRET voting for Obama, remember this is a state that has more Dems registered but those Dems end up voting Rep, and while the most diverse state and a major purple one, we typically lean Red. Obama only won the state w/ barely 51% of the vote being one of his top 5 closest states to win and in my opinion a fluke victory, out of all the swing states, next to Missouri (which he lost in 0 , he has the worst approval down here and re-election or not I predict he'll lose in 2012 down here

9 Crist looks like a Oompa-Lompa with gigantism.

10 Even I don't like Capt. Tangerine! 

11 ManTan sales hardest hit....

Perhaps some FL resident could school me on a question I have: since it seems FL has a substantial bloc of elderly voters, how does Rubio's conservatism (the "Repubs want to destroy Social Security" meme) play out with them.

It worries me a little that in light of Crist's obvious bobbing and weaving on issues, he retrains as much support as he does.

What's the frequency, Florida Kenneths?

12 10 Dogfish,

or a really short Fire giant with bad hair....

13 Dammit sven10077, why did you have to go and use a Oompa-Lompa reference.  Now I got nothing.

14

It's about time the polls caught up with reality. Somebody's gonna have to 'splain it to me how Crist, who was once so far behind Rubio, could have suddenly bolted to the front of the polls like a speeding bullet.

Rubio may not be the perfect conservative, but he's a damn sight better that Crist any day.

And for Nash Rambler in #1 above, I am so stealing that. Just so you know.

15

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 15, 2010 11:53 AM (Ulu3i)

the problem w/ the "destroy social security" scare tactic is that Floridians overwhelmingly disapprove of the Health Care Bill and seniors are becoming a Republican vote the last decade, Obama's approval rating down here was in the 60s and doing well even though he only won by 51%, once he touched the subject of healthcare about 3 months into office, it tanked and never went back up

16

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 15, 2010 11:56 AM (kFODZ)

explained in my 1st comment on this Post

17 14,

Oompa-Loompa resets never get old....

work in a Greek Deli motiff and you're golden baby

18 oh btw Crist joins Obama in approving of the ground zero mosque, that will only hurt him

19 Capt.Tangerine? He IS fruity!

20 2 You should read the comments on the Politico thread for Obama's weekly address where he does just that. It went over like a fart in a spacesuit.

21

Seems kinda funny that in light of yesterday's story (Dems who are running for reelection running AWAY from Obama, and hiding their Dem party affiliation), that Charlie Crist is posing for pictures WITH Obama. 

If all he's got is Obama, and CC is an independent and not even a "genuine" Dem, at some point soon he's a loser.  Are the elderly snowbirds from the northeast, who vote in Florida elections, really all that enthusiastic about the Obama Mosque at Ground Zero?

22 Crist came out yesterday supporting the GZM. He's toast. If you lose Miami, you've lost the state. Make that white bread toast. Signed, Another Sunshine State voter for Rubio

23 Capt.Tangerine?

I like Capt. Tang-a-Roo.

24 23 JimK,

the storm will knock the orange right off him

25

YRM, yup, saw that as soon as I hit the "Post" button.

I'm down here in Florida too, and coming up on retirement age real quick meself. Most of my friends who are my age don't like The Vapid One© even though they voted for him. They feel betrayed while the rest of us who knew better than to vote for him just feel screwed with a pineapple.

Sideways.

26 Chist's loss will be an orange crush. (?)

27 O/T: Muslim scientist claims Neil Armstrong proved the existence of Allah.  Guess Barry's outreach thing is working already.

28 Is it just me or does it look like Crist bathes in Cheetos every morning? Crows must love this guy.

29 27,

Rubio's pulping will unleash Vitamin C(rist)

30 Tangerine Dream will be performing a concert to raise funds for the sagging Crist campaign

31 31,

there's a pill for that Charlie!

32 Obama endorsing a mosque on Ground Zero that only 20 percent of Americans approve of.......a clear sign of Obama's calm rational moderate thinking.

HotAir is sounding more and more like the Washington Post every day. Ed Morrissey and AllahPundit make Dave Weigel sound like Rush Limbaugh.

Poll: What was the Obamateurism of the Week?
Captain Kickass claimed he'd fire anyone minimizing Gulf spill impact, says nothing about Gibbs remark.

(I'm shocked they used that kind of language in a family-friendly forum and didn't clean it up as, say Captain Kickpatootie.)

Slams GOP for focusing on elections -- from a fundraiser in Austin, TX

Milbank: For a man who complains that GOP won't govern, Obama spends a lot of time hanging out with sports stars

Big austerity progam: freeze bonuses for *some* political appointees

"And they donÂ’t have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You donÂ’t know if itÂ’s a foreign-controlled corporation."

AND THAT'S IT, FOLKS! No mention of the Ground Zero Mosque at all.

33 32,

and how

34 It'd be nice to see Charlie the Cheeto end up as the crumbs at the bottom of the bag.

Speaking of which - is there a commonly used term for the bottom-of-bag chip debris? 

35 33 TDP,

yup...

when LGF invaded Ed and/or AP went full Stockholm and joined Jharles Chonson as traitors to the cause.

36 Other poll dancing in case anybody missed it:
CT:  Blumenthal 47, McMahon 40
NV: Ried 46, Angle 44
CA: Fiorina 47, Boxer 42
CO: Buck 46, Bennett 41
WI: Johnson 47, Fiengold 46
OH: Portman 43, Fisher 37
IN: Coats 50, Ellsworth 29

37 And, as Mr. Wolf says in his guest appearance on Sesame Street, let's not start soaping each other's backs just yet, gentlemen.

Hilarious.

Ace has got his mojo back.

38

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:08 PM (mHQ7T)

read the HA commenters, you'll see you're better off away from that place

39 To be fair, there is one (1) whole entire post by Eeyorepundit on the HotAir page, dated Aug. 13. That's it. No follow-up post on the White House backpedaling. No mention of legalities or permit processes and no asking how on earth the mosque made it through that maze of pitfalls. Only a mention of Gutfeld's gay bar idea. Hard-hittin', I tells ya!

40 38 Warden,

yup, if he takes the "Obamosque" meme and runs with it I think we can hurt Jugears some....

41 Angle's not doing too bad for " a total joke candidate." Sue Lowden would have lost after coming out in support of ObamaCare. That's what did her in.

42 AP is teaching Ed how to love being a "martyr".

43 40 George Orwell,

if we take the house back it will be invigorating to watch AP cry in his whiskey like Chris Hitchens did on C-span back in '94 on election night.

44 I still say that Crist will tank before it is all over. Everyone hates a turncoat.

45 AND THAT'S IT, FOLKS! No mention of the Ground Zero Mosque at all.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:08 PM

--

A lot of times I've noticed that the most prominent dumb-ass event from the week doesn't make Ed's poll... but often it shows up the next week.  It may just be that he's using Saturday through Friday or something like that as his date range.  I bet it shows up next week. 

46 1 Rubio is the anti-Crist.

LOL!!

47 Gallup has Obama's approval at an all time low of 43%.

Which means it's actually below 40%.

48 You called the Wolf?!? Well why didn't you say so?!?

49 No mention of legalities or permit processes and no asking how on earth the mosque made it through that maze of pitfalls.

No links to any of The Weekly Standard and Pajamas Media pieces on a "conservative with a libertarian bent" site, either. What libertarian is down with a politically religious activist group that aims to bring sharia to the US? That's what they accuse Christians of all the time.

50 Only 32 percent of those citing no allegiance to either major party say they want Democrats to keep control of Congress in this November's elections,

Storm's coming.

51 46 Y-not,

as some said in the thread.....

"Dallas Newspaper in 1963"

Sorry readers but you can't vote on the JFK killing as the most interesting story of the week, because it took place after the cutoff time.....

52 I bet it shows up next week. 

Not after the commenting was closed down on that thread.

53 Which means it's actually below 40%.

Posted by: Warden at August 15, 2010 12:18 PM (fE6tn)

Do you shits every listen to me?  I am always saying that I'd rather be a really good one term prez than be a mediocre two term prez.  Now, how long that one term is might be in question...

54 Other poll dancing in case anybody missed it:

CT:  Blumenthal 47, McMahon 40

McMahon can win that race, the campaign has really begun now and the Dems hitting her WWE connections is only hurting them the way it did with Simmons plus the tapes of Hillary and Obama doing WWE messages during the campaign hurt them as well on that issue

NV: Ried 46, Angle 44

the fact Reid has a shot in this race is disgusting but that's what happens when the tea party irrationally pushes a bad candidate, but that said we gotta get behind Angle and she's withstood the worst from Reid, let's see if she can comeback

CA: Fiorina 47, Boxer 42

Boxer is up 5 according to Ras, so clearly w/ other polls saying otherwise, this is a dead heat, Boxer is unpopular in CA all of all places and she's beatable

CO: Buck 46, Bennett 41

unlike the governor's race there where we have a 3rd party screw up, we could pull this one off, let's just hope Buck isn't the next Angle

WI: Johnson 47, Fiengold 46

this one is in a dead heat and euthusiam could be the balance of power here, Johnson could win by a near margin or Fiengold could

OH: Portman 43, Fisher 37

Reps should win this race plain and simple, Strickland is unpopular and facing a 1 term legacy w/ him being down in the polls in his bid for re-election

IN: Coats 50, Ellsworth 29

this one's over

55 Hot Air is the "Lost in Space" of blogs. It is crap and will never be anything better than crap. It rots your brain. Stop going there. Trust me, you'll never look back.

56

The problem with the numbers, to me anyway, has been Crist's continued R support.  Crist has made it clear he will not be out-progressived or out-liberaled by Meek or Greene. 

Abortion?  Check. 

Ban on drilling?  Check.

For Obama's stimulus?  Check. 

For Obama's (fill in the blank)?  Checks. 

So I tend to think Republicans who still poll for Crist just are a few months out of the loop, or Florida State Grads.

Geaux Gators. 

See you in the Citrus Bowl, bitches.    We're number three!

57 I can't imagine just how stupid a person would have to be to vote for Crist. He's basically screaming that he's a self centered tool who will do whatever is in his own best interest and yet there's still people who apparently believe he'll act with their best interests in mind. Idiots.

58 50 TDP,

exactly....

Ace I am not advocating violence with this just pointing out the lunacy of the Democrat and moonbat position....

In their deference to appease radical islam and shhow "sensitivity" to it while flaming and legislating against Christians here at home what the left is trying to do indirectly is get the message to other faiths that "if you want us to treat you fairly you have to saw off heads and blow up buildings".....

Now all other faiths sort of frown on the private holy war thing so there is no risk of that becoming "the new normal" but the I know the donks by the smell in my nose and the maggots that form on them.

59 To be fair again, at least the Pillsbury Pillock has covered this story on StaleAir. That's what is so sad about Ed lately. He does a workmanlike post that you won't read in the MFM (I think), yet on some stories he refuses to see the big picture. A smart guy but one of the conservatives who still think Barry is bound by and lives within politics as usual. Rush keeps saying conservatives have a hard time believing that Barry actively detests what this country is, that he really does not love it. Look, if he did, he wouldn't need to transform it fundamentally, which he clearly wants to do.

60 I met Rubio up close and personal the other day..at the West Palm campaign headquarters. He's quite impressive in person....lots of common sense...smart....great speaker....approachable and funny (as opposed to being arrogant and elitist). I also met Allen West the other evening. Now that's a man I'd 'run through hell with a gas can' for (that's Allen West's line in regard to what he would be willing to do for the men under his care during his time in the military). I'm so excited and proud to be part of the movement here in Florida to take back our country! I've even got my 11 year old son involved...making calls and helping me volunteer for both candidates!

61 read the HA commenters, you'll see you're better off away from that place

It's hard for me. They lost their best after the 2008 election. But these days, I have more fun at Politico or The Hill than at HotAir.

62 The Blue Hairs will come to love Capt. Tangerine in the next couple of months.

63 BTW I meant Ed covered this Crist-Rubio story.

64 I met Rubio up close and personal the other day..at the West Palm campaign headquarters. He's quite impressive in person....lots of common sense...smart....great speaker....approachable and funny

I'm often impressed when I see Rubio in interviews. He's one of the best we have running for US Senate, and I think he has a bright future, even White House material, if he doesn't get mixed up with Romney and roped into a VP spot on a losing ticket.

65 The Blue Hairs will come to love Capt. Tangerine in the next couple of months. Blue and orange are pretty much complementary colors, after all.

66 Eh.  Hot Air sucks.  I know it does.  I stopped reading it for that reason.  Why is it that some people here seemingly reload it every 5 minutes to find things to get their hate on about?  And why do they think gossiping like teenage girls about Allah and Ed on every single AoSHQ thread is a useful contribution to the HQ?  Would love to see some guidance from the Head Wookie on this.

67 @61
I don't think Ed is really that much of a conservative.  He's kind of squishy, touchy-feely, libertarian.  Very naive. 

Anyway, I find the comment threads exhausting most of the time at HA, primarily because of the excessive focus on religion, and I don't find myself agreeing with Ed very often any more (see above), but I still think Hot Air is an excellent conservative news feed. 

I know they shut down Friday's thread - I don't really care to try to figure out why, but given the moronic (not in a good way) nature of some of its commenters, I can easily imagine what happened - but I bet the mosque thing makes next week's poll. 

68 scary thing is that a guy like Crist would even be considered as a U.S. Senator. Says something about the sad state of politics.

Al Franken: NUFF SAID

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:23 PM (mHQ7T)

yep, the 08 election was when the horrifying change began, I'll agree with that, the thing is it wasn't just the bloggers but the commenters that got worse too

69 68 Ian S.,

I think it is relevant because Ed is "award winning Right Blogger extraorinaire!"......

he is a "safe conservative' because he refuses to grasp what he is facing.

Sad thing is he was once upon a time a hard hitting investigative borderline journalist.....

sad really.

70 #66 My dream.....West/Rubio ....sometime in the near future!!!!

71 69 Y-not,

it depends on who killed the thread as to whether or not it get made an OOTD.....

if it was Ed who killed it it will not.

72 when the tea party irrationally pushes a bad candidate

I see nothing "irrational" about a group of people who say they have been Taxed Enough Already pushing a schoolteacher who won a US Supreme Court case for lower property taxes. Especially when her establishment pick opponent came out in support of ObamaCare. They voted in their primary in AZ; support the party's official nominee or shut up.

73 And yes, sometimes Angle seems like an amateur to me, and I hate Reid's guts. But I won't repeat his talking points in comment sections.

74 74 TDP,

Nevada...but otherwise dead on....

I find myself wondering if Wise Latina or "never judged a traffic stop case' is gonna be the difference maker in whatever case sets the precedent about whether or not government has a duty to try to live within its income....
?

75 Crist is so orange he glows like an infrared beacon. When he walks past a Best Buy he makes the channels change on all the television sets.

76 And why do they think gossiping like teenage girls about Allah and Ed on every single AoSHQ thread is a useful contribution to the HQ?  Would love to see some guidance from the Head Wookie on this.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 15, 2010 12:25 PM (imD7p)

Because Ace links them constantly. There is a weird symbiotic relationship between this blog and Ace, and I would prefer less suck and more Ace.

77

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:30 PM (mHQ7T)

wow so much hostility, I love how you told me "support the party's official nominee or shut up." while taking out the part of my qoute of me urging people to support Angle if they could, I'd vote for her if I had the chance. 

My point is Lowden would be crushing Reid right now, the polls showed it, Angle would have been the easiest challenge for Reid and that's what the Tea Party gave him and look he's up in the polls, do I think she can win? yes I do, do I want her to win? HELL YES I DO, can she screw it up and lose this? yep she can, that my entire point

I hate to break it to you but we don't have to agree with the "tea party" all the time

78 76 Sorry, yeah Nevada. The hell?

79 Would love to see some guidance from the Head Wookie on this. Here, that would be "Head Ewok," sir. Turn in your nerd card at the door.

80 wow so much hostility

That wasn't hostile at all. Sorry, you're butthurt.

81 78 TDP,

well they do a good job of linking to source stories, Ace is friendly with them still so far as I know but the quality of their "analysis" has gone way, way down hill.

I recall that when Ed and AP went into "panic moderation mode" since we were 'going to have to be gentle to win back credibility Ace was still pretty much Ace.....

you beat the opponent by whatever works and ridicule is a very effective truncheon.

82

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:36 PM (mHQ7T)

that was sarcasm

83 I hate to break it to you but we don't have to agree with the "tea party" all the time

And I'm not supporting the tea party but the Republican party. Angle won the primary. Get over it.

84 81,

Head Wookie is "woman whose station shall not be named"...

Head ewok is a man who made his bones in the nearly lost art of hobo removal.

85

Rubio is very well spoken and gutsy on various talk shows.  I applaud his willingness to go mix it up.  Rubio was a star in the legislature and all the personal buzz is positive.  Now he should run some TV commercials in Central Florida.  Seriously, the silence is deafening up here.  

Don't wait until the ads are so thick and fierce nobody is listening or they hate you for running _another_ one.

Crist going hard negative on Rubio probably depressed Rubio's numbers for a time as well.  Remember the Fox interview where Crist went relentlessly negative and wouldn't answer any questions directly?

I thought that hurt Crist more than Rubio, but any kind of money scandal rumors tend to reinforce what everyone thinks about every politician, dirty.      

86

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 15, 2010 12:37 PM (mHQ7T)

again i've urged people to support her, i'm not pulling a Michelle Malkin and demanding people not vote for a candidate she didn't like, I'm only explaining why Reid has a shot at winning

87 Allahpundit's original site years ago was a must read thing of beauty. It parlayed him to a paying gig, and that sometimes requires making adjustments...as we all probably know. I still like AP, but damn... he was really great once.

88

you beat the opponent by whatever works and ridicule is a very effective truncheon.

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

“…you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments.”

- Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals

89

Posted by: Beagle at August 15, 2010 12:38 PM (sOtz/)

Central Florida has been completely untouched by the senate race, I agree, we get more of the back and forth b/w McCullum and Scott over here

like Crist going full out attack mode on Rubio hurt him after an initial bump, the same has happen with Scott attacking McCullum and i'd argue it's why McMahon has a shot in CT, "attack campaigns" work but you have to back it up w/ policy and platforms

90 Oh damn, there's another thread...

91 My bad on mixing up the Lucasian fursuits #89: Allah's "Bitchslap in Beantown" Photoshop blowout is the single funniest thing I've ever read on the Internet. It's really a shame there's no archive of that blog, although it seems like AP's ashamed of it now.

92 we could pull this one off, let's just hope Buck isn't the next Angle

again i've urged people to support her

That's a funny kind of support, but if you say so. I find it not remotely helpful to badmouth our candidates, especially when they're outspent 10 to 1. Donate money to her? Maybe you feel that's a sucker's bet. But talk is cheap, and your cheap shots are costly.

93 It parlayed him to a paying gig, and that sometimes requires making adjustments...as we all probably know.

Hey, people change.

94 If Florida sends Man-Tan to the Senate, Florida is dead to me. I cannot comprehend how even sun-addled retirees who find it difficult to choose between breakfast specials at the local Denny's can vote for Crist.

95 96 Monty,

your answer is in your post.

they have trouble deciding on menu items at a returaunt they eat at every day in some cases....

the New England Retiree Mongol Hoard has devestated Florida and it is starting to devour South carolina....

96 the New England Retiree Mongol Hoard has devestated Florida and it is starting to devour South carolina....

Not really devouring SC. We are not as ideal a location for the snow belt retirees, although I do have one elderly couple behind me who moved down from NY.

The problem with SC is that it is a high tax State for the South East. They are much better off in GA, FL, or some other location. In addition, insurance is extremely high in this State. I pay more for car insurance here than I did in the Bay Area in CA.

97 98 Vic,

I guess my experience was jaded by living in Myrtle beach and Columbia....both of which attract the 'my God I can't afford these taxes now that I am retired' New Englanduh

98 I just do not understand how despicable people get elected.

99 Yeah, Myrtle Beach has literally exploded in the past 20 years so there may be a lot more moving there. I used to go down there during the off season in the Winter but there is no longer an "off season".

I try to avoid it now. It is actually easier to get around in Charleston now than Myrtle Beach.

I suspect that the cost of living in Myrtle Beach is higher than it is here, so again I would have to ask what the attraction for retirees would be there.  Also, they wouldn't be getting that big return on their houses from NY so they can buy cheaply at the Beach.  The prices in NY have fallen out the bottom while the Beach remained the same.

100

I'll be working at campaign HQ here in Jax and I'll damned sure be casting my vote for Rubio. Frankly, I'm not even sure I love Rubio, but I despise Crist.

The tougher vote here in Florida is the governor's race. The McCollum campaign has done itself more harm than good. First, prior to stating his platform, they launched agressive and nasty attacks on Scott. Scott continued, even then, with pushing his own platform. Then, when McCollum went too far and Scott struck back, the Florida GOP steps in to tell them to play nice. Scott went back to pushing his own platform and McCollum kept hitting at Scott.

McCollum was one of the very first AGs to stand up in defense of Governor Brewer but he also said that such a law was not appropriate for Florida. Now that he's losing...Ta Da!...he's pushing a Florida immigration law.

He simply comes across as slimy and has been shown to be a liar.

So, when it comes down to it, I'm leaning towards Scott. Thus far, I've yet to hear anything to support McCollums claims of Liar! Thief! against him and, in the end, he's a highly successful businessman who is not an incumbent.

Perhaps I'll change my mind before the election, but that's where I am now.

101 But Intrade has Crist up by 20%!!!!!!!! Nice try. Thought you could get it past me on the weekend. Nope, nope.

102 Charlie Crist On the Ground Zero Mosque: Why, Soitenly! http://www.practicalstate.com/?p=1893 Cheers

103 Hey, Mr. Tangerine Man.

104

The support for the ground zero statement will drive Crist's numbers down another 5% this week as the work gets around.  He's toast.

105 "as Mr. Wolf says in his guest appearance on Sesame Street"

Hilarious...  Unless it's some Youtube reference I'm missing.

106 Blue and orange are pretty much complementary colors, after all.

You know THAT's right!

107

PROBABLY BECAUSE CRIST DOESNT HAVE THE GULF SPILL ANYMORE TO GET FREE PRESS.

 

By the way, Crist sucks goat balls too .... except for him, he prefers them lightly roasted instead.

108 Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Captian Tangerine!  Ace your fucked up man . Ha Ha Ha Ha

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