1 DeVore for Senate. Only he will get a check from me. Go ride a Sybian, Carly.

2 She's starting to remind me more and more of John McCain.  I'd almost rather keep Boxer in there  - it gives the Democrats an extra vote, but it also gives them an embarrassment.

We definitely don't need another senator who's going to play into media stereotypes for her own personal gain.

3 My guess is they got it right and Fiorina is trying to have it both ways.

I could go either way myself. On one hand politicians hate taking a stance on a devisive subject, but on the other hand Politico is a Democrat PR rag.

4

Pregnant?  Impossible! 

I pulled out before I came inside her.

5

 

Mark this day. For today is the day Fiorina's candidacy for Senate crashed & burned.

6 I love the smell of nuance in the morning.

7 Chuck DeVore's website: just in case anyone of you yahoo's wins the MegaMillions tomorrow.

8 My guess is they got it right and Fiorina is trying to have it both ways.

Not trying to pick a fight (Really!) but that's why many of us get picky when politicians do the *smart* thing and muddle their positions.  There's no good way of knowing we're not the ones being lied to. 

And, honestly, I can't remember the last politician who surprised anyone by acting in place to the right of his campaign persona.

9

she thinks that if she panders, she'll get the left vote. what a tard

10

 

Well now we Carly is a) a pandering fool, b) not for state's rights, c) opposed to the rule of law, and d) a bumbling boob.

 

11 Carly has only two assets for the GOP.

She can pretty much self-fund.

A real vajayjay, as opposed to the virtual vajayjays sported by most male GOP insiders.

12

Don't worry.  I'll say the same thing to you as I do to every other audience, right across the country!  I'll never lie to you!

That's right, I just compared her unfavorably to myself.

13

on the other hand Politico is a Democrat PR rag.

Especially that twatwaffle Ben Smith. 

14 Next.

She's getting Schwarzeneggered. Did she marry a Kennedy when we weren't looking?

15

 

The only rationale I can think of is she thinks she has the primary in the bag and it's a good time to move to the center. But on this particular issue, it is foolhardy to move to the center.

On this issue, you pick a side and stay on it.

16

It doesn't matter what the hell she says, I'm voting for Chuck DeVore in the primary.

Anyone for taking up a collection to buy her a wig? The dyke look doesn't work on her.

17

I would've said next even if she did support the Arizona law. There is no goddamned "racist tone" that needs to be addressed within the GOP. Fuck that. That's a media creation.

The  racists are the La Raza fucks and those who support them.

I'm sick of prominent "conservatives" reenforcing incorrect,  media-created stereotypes that smear Republicans and conservatives.

She's just another self-serving asshole elitst fuckhead. Fuck her with a two by four.

 

 

18

Anyone for taking up a collection to buy her a wig? The dyke look doesn't work on her.

In fairness she's a cancer survivor. As much as I prefer DeVore, let's not go there. Besides, the dyke look just might sell out here.

That said, I wonder if a coherent GOP can exploit rifts in the rainbow coalition of the Left. Such rifts are:

anti-development, anti-agriculture Green vs. pro construction and pro-agriculture Brown.

"fabulous" Pink vs. churchy and anti-gay Black and Brown

Black vs. Brown (unspoken but basically an out and out war in the ghettoes and prisons)

The Demunists here have a lot of infighting, and I often wonder why the Cali GOP can't seem to exploit it.

19 Not trying to pick a fight (Really!) but that's why many of us get picky when politicians do the *smart* thing and muddle their positions.


It's almost never a smart move to play to the middle during the primary.

20

On this issue, you pick a side and stay on it.

Stay on one side of teh fence? RACIST!

21 >>>Not trying to pick a fight (Really!) but that's why many of us get picky when politicians do the *smart* thing and muddle their positions. There's no good way of knowing we're not the ones being lied to. Yes but if she was supporting the law itself that would not be "muddled" in my mind. Let's not confuse things -- McCain and Graham were odious for calling our *position* racist. If Fiorina was supporting our position -- implicitly calling it not-racist -- what is the problem with noting that there are also racists and racist positions (and racist tone)? I mean -- are we defending racists? If we're not being called racists, do we mind if the politician calls other people racists? I think there is a lot of political sense in such an approach, supporting the policy of secure-borders-first while giving a little rhetorical support to the anti-racist cause. Again, I think that creates a strawman (or not so strawman) position to your outside so you can then appear "moderate." Let me postulate that "Moderate" positions ALWAYS win. By which I mean this: If a position wins, then the country has moved in that direction enough to embrace that position, so there probably IS a position to the outside of that one which is not being executed. Or, the "moderate" position wins because the party supporting it has rhetorically convinced the country it IS moderate. Even if it's conservative. The party wins when conservative becomes synonymous with "centrist." This happened on crime, of course. The once "hardcore retributionist conservative" position is now the sensible center. I don't mind if a conservative position is CAST AS a moderate position by postulating some horrible rightwing policy to the fringe right of it.

22

 

I don't know if this accurate, but a commenter in the other thread Nanny Bloomberg is pointing his finger at 'someone unhappy with the health care bill.'

23

Anyone for taking up a collection to buy her a wig? The dyke look doesn't work on her.

 

Go Fuck yourself.

24

She's got a snowballs chance in hell anyway. If she made it through the primary the Dem's would re-hash all the off-shoring and outright hatred she earned from the long timers at HP. They'd be lined up at the door to make attack ads against her. The only thing she has going for her is that she really knows how to destroy an organization (which might have some merit in DC...)

NEXT is right.

25

 

Can anyone confirm that Bloomberg comment on CBS?

26 >>>There is no goddamned "racist tone" that needs to be addressed within the GOP. Fuck that. That's a media creation. Perception is reality, and besides, you're getting pretty close to saying there are no racists in the GOP, which is nonsense on stilts. IF (and this doesn't seem to apply to Fiorina) a politician could sell a hardcore secure-borders-first position by rhetorically throwing racists under the bus, are you, like, going to weep about the insults cast upon racists? You're going to turn your nose up at a substantive win over his demogoguing against racists? Racists who aren't you?

27

 

I'm about to flip out if it's true.

28

Anyone for taking up a collection to buy her a wig? The dyke look doesn't work on her.

Hey jackhole, it's called the cancer look.

Prick.

29 Why is it so difficult to say that this is the same exact standard as federal law.  If you wanted to wimp out, that would be the way to do it.

30

I don't know if this accurate, but a commenter in the other thread Nanny Bloomberg is pointing his finger a

At worst, it's false but accurate.

31

Perception is reality, and besides, you're getting pretty close to saying there are no racists in the GOP, which is nonsense on stilts.

Sorry ace, but I have to call the Rule of Anyway on you here. Giving credence to the Left just gets us more of the same.

32

 

the commenter 'zyggee' just said it was true

33 no more demon sheep?  awwww...

34 >>>orry ace, but I have to call the Rule of Anyway on you here. Giving credence to the Left just gets us more of the same And you are now basically saying it's wholly and entirely a "left" position to be anti-racism. Not accurate, and not smart.

35 what's this bloomberg thing?

36

Perception is reality, and besides, you're getting pretty close to saying there are no racists in the GOP, which is nonsense on stilts.

No.

There is no more a problem with racism in the GOP than there is on the other side.

Robert FUCKING Byrd, for God's sake.

So fuck reenforcing that stereotype.

If you're going to throw out a few words disavowing a few racist assholes on the right, then you damn well better do as much damage to the other side by mentioning all the unacceptable "tone" issues coming from the pro illegal side.

To do otherwise is to reenforce a false stereotype.

No, I'm not defending racists or denying that they exist on our side.

Of course not.

But if it's to be acknowledge then I want a "they have their problems too" caveat thrown in every single time.

Because it's true AND it's smart politics.

 

 

37 140 Mayor Bloomberg just said on CBS that  if he would guess, it was home grown person, someone mentally ill, perhaps someone unhappy with the health care bill!!! What a son of a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: ziggyee at May 03, 2010 06:39 PM (N+6ll)

other thread

38 Saying there is a racist tone to efforts to enforce border security only serves two purposes. It smears anyone that wants to enforce the law with slander and it makes people that are here legally think half the country, namely Republicans, hates them and is a racist. So by saying this she is not only smearing her fellow Republicans but helping lie to millions of Americans and tell them that millions of other Americans hate them because of the color of their skin. This does not help Mitt Romney, it helps Obama divide the country and aids Dem efforts to get Hispanics to vote 97% for them just like AA's because they believe our country is a racist shithole.

39

 

but earlier Bloomberg said this: “Terrorists around the world who feel threatened by the freedoms that we have always focus on those symbols of freedoms and that is New York City,”

40 I think the election this fall is going to be vastly different from the previous 15 or 20 years. The people are NOT in the mood for squishy "moderate" sounding Republicans.  Hell, they were not in the mood for that last election after 8 years of squishy moderate Bush turning the cheek after every attack.  When McLame decided to cross over and become even more leftest that a moderate the Party stayed at home.

It would be a big mistake to appear soft on amnesty once again for a Republican. Even the Dem voters don't like amnesty which is why Rob Emanuel told the Dems to stay out of the issue in 2007 and let the Republicans eat themselves.

If she did, in fact, say she was opposed to the AZ law and Politico is not making shit up then most likely she is toast in the primary.

41 I mean -- are we defending racists? If we're not being called racists, do we mind if the politician calls other people racists?

Because it's a cheap shotgun approach at our expense.  She's attacking us without giving specifics to boost herself as being above the fray.

She's also reinforcing the meme of the Left.  The problem is the racism on the other side.

You know.  That outfit named "The Race"?  But in Spanish?

42 It would be nice for at least one media outlet to talk about Mexico's immigration policy or just about any other countries immigration policy. Of course they won't, never let the facts get in the way of the narrative.  

43

@1: "Go ride a Sybian, Carly."

I move to suspend the POIDH rule for this event.  I, for one, will take her word for it on the Sybian-riding issue.

44

What I'm saying is, if you want to address "racist tones" then wrap it all up in a big burrito (racist!) of other "tone" issues that reflect badly on the left.

Like smearing all pro enforcement types as racist or anti immigrant.

Mention the Nazi references, too.

Maybe I'm missing something, but she didn't do any of that.

Or maybe Politico edited it out.

 

 

45 Carly, at HP, was great at self-promotion but lost 2/3s of the value of a once solid company. Then when they forced her out with, i believe it was a $20M payday, she whined. And wrote a whiney book, promoting Carly. We have enough shameless self-promoting vacuous assholes in DC already. Carly stands for Carly, nothing more or less. Piss on her. Next.

46 This is why Obama and his asshole party keep referring to anyone for border security as "anti-immigrant" not as "anti-illegal immigrant". They want lawful immigrants to think we hate them. They want to create division and fear and exploit it for political gain. And this scrunt is helping them.

47 Not a huge fan of Fiorina, but she's as reliable as Maverick, maybe more so, just because she's relatively inexperienced.

48 she should have mentioned the changes being (were?) made to the law to make it less abusable. ie i am against the racist tone some used to promote this law, but applaude arizona for listening to concerns of the public to make this law less subject to abuse.

49 "Rule of Anyway"

Good rule.

On the illegal immigration issue (like others), keep mentioning something and that something becomes real even when it isn't. The word association becomes so powerful that it defines the issue even when it doesn't. As it evolves, to discuss immigration control, at all, means you're perpetuating racism if not actually racist. It's a word game where to dissociate the words becomes impossible. And that's what the pro-illegal immigration/amnesty crowd is counting on.

See what I did there? Pro-illegal immigration crowd. Two can play this game. Unfortunately, Fiorina wants to play by rules imposed upon her. IOW she's not a leader.

50 Perception is reality, and besides, you're getting pretty close to saying there are no racists in the GOP, which is nonsense on stilts. Posted by: ace

He didn't say there aren't. He's saying that 'concern' over racism is playing into the hands of Lefties who use racial grievance as a brickbat.

Playing the Lefty's game is a losing proposition; you can never beat Lefties at identity politics. You will always be 'guilty' of some offense and by trying to play the good informant, you fuck the whole party over.

The only play is to reject broad-brush accusations of racism without fear or compromise.

All political parties have racists among their members. Why is it only the GOP that must defend itself from these charges?

51 On the illegal immigration issue (like others), keep mentioning something and that something becomes real even when it isn't.

That is the same thing as the "Bush Lied" meme. It was repeated at every press release the Dems made and by the PR goons in the MSM every day. The Republicans never bothered to counter it at all.  It became the defacto truth.

If the Republicans continue the policy of not combating the lies from the Dems and the press they will never win.

52

Can the State of Arizona file libelous and slander charges against pundits and networks who are fabricating and perpetuating the claim that the Law mandates/allows racial bias?

  I heard it all over ESPN this weekend.  Sports Commentors all over the place claiming the AZ law was a Stop on Suspicion Law and not a Verify by Incident Law?

It would seem no different than penning a bald faced lie in a Paper or Magazine...

53

@10: "Well now we Carly is a) a pandering fool, b) not for state's rights, c) opposed to the rule of law, and d) a bumbling boob."

In other words, she's the perfect Republican candidate, at least from the party leaders' point of view.

54

_{You know.  That outfit named "The Race"?  But in Spanish?}

Be Careful...Berry, Berry Careful.

55 Vic@52,

'Zactly.

56 10

Well now we Carly is a) a pandering fool, b) not for state's rights, c) opposed to the rule of law, and d) a bumbling boob.

Posted by: Injun Joe at May 03, 2010 06:39 PM (uFokq)

You are just learning that NOW?  Some of us learned not to trust her in the Lucent days.   24

If she made it through the primary the Dem's would re-hash all the off-shoring and outright hatred she earned from the long timers at HP. They'd be lined up at the door to make attack ads against her. The only thing she has going for her is that she really knows how to destroy an organization (which might have some merit in DC...)

NEXT is right.

Posted by: Gromulin at May 03, 2010 06:46 PM (7FA9S)

 

Not just the HP people are lined up in hate of her.   The Lucent folks are lined up first, we have hated longer, we lost our jobs because of her FIRST, before the smucks at HP even hired her. 

57 "...but opposes Arizona's new immigration law because it seeks to deal with a federal issue on a state level"

That doesn't seem like equivocation; it seems like a pretty clear statement that while there is a problem that needs to be addressed, she feels national border enforcement is a Federal issue. Which I think it is.

I am not a Californian, and don't have a preferred candidate in this Senate race. But as a Republican, I would prefer that the nomination not be decided by a debate over competing straw man arguments.

The comment about her hair, by the way, was spectacularly assholic. Anyone who has ever lost a friend to breast cancer (we've lost two) recognizes the look, and wishes her all the best.

58 Can the State of Arizona file libelous and slander charges against pundits and networks who are fabricating and perpetuating the claim that the Law mandates/allows racial bias? Posted by: garrett

No.

59

Why say anything about a "racist tone" in the GOP? She wasn't even asked about that. She was asked what the GOP could do better.

That's your answer? Not have a "racist tone"? This is the big problem in the GOP? Really?

It's either an unforced error or a gratutious shot that harms pro enforcement types through guilt by association.

 

60 I heard it all over ESPN this weekend. Sports Commentors all over the place claiming the AZ law was a Stop on Suspicion Law and not a Verify by Incident Law? It would seem no different than penning a bald faced lie in a Paper or Magazine... Posted by: garrett at May 03, 2010 07:02 PM (QYqcM) ESPN and the Washington Post still pay Mike Wilbon after he falsely attributed racist quotes to Rush Limbaugh in print and on TV. Do you really think they are not deliberatly lying?

61

 

Like I said before, if I do have purity test for Republicans, it's not very stringent.

It's simple actually: You don't have to agree with me 100% of the time. All I ask is you don't help the other side win.

Fiorina fails.

62 Freakin sock.

63 A.  Did you know that the word "race car" spelled  backward still spells
"race  car"?


B.  Did you know that "eat" is the only word that if  you take the 1st
letter and move it to the last, it spells its past tense  "ate"?


C.  And have you noticed that if you rearrange the  letters in "illegal
immigrants" and  add just a few more letters, it spells out: "Go home you
free-loading,  benefit-grabbing, anchor babies-producing, violent, non-English speaking assholes and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing,bomb-making,goat-loving, raggedy-ass bastards with you"?

How weird is that  ???

64 thanks First Ammendment! I thought there'd be mitigating factors when said same were calling for MLB and Public Boycotts. Financial Loss due to Libelous and False Assertion.

65

I can understand if someone in the media pointed out some over-the-top language coming from the GOP that had a "racist tone" and asked her what she thought about that.

Fine. Disavow it. I'm not saying we should support racists or deny they exist in the GOP.

But then be sure to say it's a small number of jerks. Yes it's a problem, but you aren't going to let an entire movement of concerned citizens be painted with a broad brush.

Then get the hell back on message.

Oh, and DON'T PUNCH DOWN, MOTHERFUCKERS!

Sorry. Something came over me.

66 Breaking news on Fox a few moments ago.  Person of interest  is a naturalized US citizen who just happened to return from a trip to Pakistan.

67

 _{Do you really think they are not deliberatly lying?}

I think the exact opposite. 

I just wish people would bitch slap these assholes, in our society, litigation is the equivalent.  Right?

AZ. stands to lose a ton of cash. 

All to salve the irritated Vagina of the Left.

 

68 Or, the "moderate" position wins because the party supporting it has rhetorically convinced the country it IS moderate. Even if it's conservative. The party wins when conservative becomes synonymous with "centrist." This happened on crime, of course. The once "hardcore retributionist conservative" position is now the sensible center.

Well when you put it that way, it's hard to argue.  Aside from the fact that the media is never going to admit any conservative position is mainstream (though they might use code like "leadership" and "principles" for their favorite liberal views), anyway.

The thing about defending "racists" is we are all "racist" by virtue of opposing Obama and, on this issue, being concerned with national self-interest (at the expense of Mexico's ability to export its unemployment), at least according to the media.  Playing along puts her on *their* side, or at least the non-election year McCain side.  Which as long as there's still a primary to be had, hits my *next* button pretty hard.

69 while decrying a "racist tone" adopted by some of its backers

Um, I've completely missed this. Is it a tone that's outside the human hearing range?

(And what about the racist tone of some of the opponents? What about the frankly anti-American-sovereignty tone of it?)

70

My pencil is itching to check DeVore. 

71

58 ...The comment about her hair, by the way, was spectacularly assholic. Anyone who has ever lost a friend to breast cancer (we've lost two) recognizes the look, and wishes her all the best.

Oh, for chrissakes, no it's not 'assholic'. He just said the look didn't suit her. He wasn't  fucking insulting cancer survivors. Lighten the fuck up. I've known breast cancer victims who wore really chic wigs--or does that throw them out of the victim club?
She's running for a very public office, and looks DO matter.

72 It's becoming more clear why the original founders of HP wanted her out...She's for Carly at whatever costs...I remember her picking up 100 large compensation about 2000...I mean 100 million large.  As far as I'm concerned, anyone with that kind of ego is a liability not an asset...

73 See, this is why CA is fucked. The CA GOP can't put up any viable candidates, doesn't support actual viable candidates and then fucks the few conservatives in the state up the arse to keep their cushy gerrymandered seats.

I hate CA. The CA GOP can FOADIAF.

Tom McClintock should have been governor. Chuck Devore should be Senator.

We're probably going to keep Boxer and get Jerry Brown as governor to put the final nail in CA's coffin. At this point, I don't think I care anymore.

74

But then be sure to say it's a small number of jerks. Yes it's a problem, but you aren't going to let an entire movement of concerned citizens be painted with a broad brush.

Yep.

The media is not going around saying that there are a few racists. They are painting the whole right as racists.

So if she seems to be argreeing at all...what message do you think most people are going to hear? The nuanced one? I'm not that optomistic.

75

Like I said before, if I do have purity test for Republicans, it's not very stringent.

It's simple actually: You don't have to agree with me 100% of the time. All I ask is you don't help the other side win.

Fiorina fails.

 

 

I agree.  And Ace, please don't fall into that leftist camouflaged PC pit.  The AZ law isn't racist.  It doesn't even come close.

76

So the Repukes are doing their best to fuck up a perfect situation?  Damn, what were the chances......

77 The media is not going around saying that there are a few racists. They are painting the whole right as racists.

Just once I'd like to see an R politician interviewed who, when asked about racism in the R party say, "Well, actually, let's talk about the racists in the Democrat party starting with the New Black Panthers, La Raza, "Sheets" Byrd, etc. etc." And then call the interviewer racist when the interviewee is interrupted.

78 The AZ law isn't racist.  It doesn't even come close.

This is why the AZ law is racist because the Left thinks common sense is racist.

79

The media is not going around saying that there are a few racists. They are painting the whole right as racists.

And she's helping them with this "racist tone" nonsense.

Hey, nothing like being totally vague so that the racist label can be applied to anyone on the pro-enforcement side.

I mean, it's a concern, right? She said it was.

What the hell does racist tone mean anyway? Who knows? She doesn't say. She doesn't give examples. So I guess it means whatever the media wants it to mean.

How nice for them.

Great work, you dumbass.

80 Perception is reality,

No, it's not. Perception is perception -- filtered by bias and ignorance, and limited by the information presented to you. So long as putative Republicans go along with the "gee, we sure are a bunch of racists, ain't we?" line of BS, that line of BS will never be confronted.

and besides, you're getting pretty close to saying there are no racists in the GOP, which is nonsense on stilts.

That a racist may support a policy -- even if it's because of his racism -- that does not make the policy racist. The "taint of racism" is not communicable -- and if it were, wouldn't that taint must strongly touch the people who openly support race-based preferences and racially exclusive organizations?

81 @74: "We're probably going to keep Boxer and get Jerry Brown as governor to put the final nail in CA's coffin. At this point, I don't think I care anymore."

The collapse should be fun on a bun, though.  I bet it will be bright enough to read by the light of the burning buildings during the coming riots.

82

I mean, does it strike anyone else as odd that she uses the same weasle words as the media/democrats?

Racist tone.

How flexible. It could mean anything.

So, what's so racist about wanting to enforce our immigration laws?

Oh, you know. Just the tone of the debate.

The what?

The tone. The racist tone.

Oh.

83 53 I wanted to strangle Mike lupica on the sports reporters yesterday morn. Been trying to find the clip with no luck. Think it will make for a good thread here; sports/politics collide.

84 We're probably going to keep Boxer and get Jerry Brown as governor to put the final nail in CA's coffin. At this point, I don't think I care anymore.

Posted by: wherestherum at May 03, 2010 07:25 PM (gofDd)

You're too young to be such a cynic.

85 Isn't Fiorina the RNC's pet in this race?

86 Let's see, RNC loves Fiorina. Fiorina says Republicans have a "racist tone." What's next, she endorses Boxer when she loses the primary?

The RNC is in the very best of hands.

87 Unless the so-called 'racist' demands special favors and social programs at the expense of all citizens then it is just so much name calling.

On my side, we are against all Federal social programs and special benefits based upon 'race'.

Supporters of "La Raza" - not so much...

88

She's fighting "RACISM!" so knock it off with the purity tests.

Don't you people get it? She's fighting RACISM, and if you have a problem with fighting RACISM, then you are a RACIST too!

Ya bunch of effing RACISTS!

89 Damn white men.  You guys suck.

90 90 Damn white men.  You guys suck.

Posted by: Carly Fiorina at May 03, 2010 08:07 PM (h60Tu)

SEE! She's STILL fighting RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!

91 #89: Like I said, the Rule of Anyway. Seriously, ace, don't walk into the Left's dialectical leg-hold trap.

92 Just one more Cawleeforneeun checking in to plug Chuck DeVore!  Carly will be another Maine type weak sister.  Campbell won't sign the tax pledge and has too much baggage.  Chuck DeVore has no money - proves he's in nobody's pocket!
But Puhleeze - my dog is prettier and much smarter than Boxer.

93 85: I'm old and cynical enough to agree with him. Frankly I'm surprised she even offered lukewarm support for the AZ law since virtually every CA Republican spends half their time worrying about how to get our millions of illegals to vote for them.

94 #24:  You are absolutely right about that - no love lost there.  Plus she encouraged McLame to suspend his campaign & go vote in favor of TARP,  when he was ahead in polls! 

95 We're probably going to keep Boxer and get Jerry Brown as governor to put the final nail in CA's coffin. At this point, I don't think I care anymore. I'm too old not to be a cynic, and she's probably right.

96 Sounds like she is just being Carly.

Progressive Dimocrat running on the Republican ticket.

97

Fiorina destroyed a successful company.  What, exactly is it that you think she's qualified for? 

Oh, wait.  We are talking about California, right?  

98 The proper response is to demand the opposition disown La Raza, the 'Family Values' Republicans', and every other group who thinks certain ethnicities should for whatever reasons get special waivers from the law.

99

What does a racist tone sound like?

I think it sounds similar to the Close Encounters of the Third Kind theme, except with a lot more, you know, racism in it and stuff.

100 it's obvious BP provided her with faulty information...

101
I'm pretty sure that Chuck FUCKING DeVore! supports the AZ law and doesn't have any wishy-washy answers about it!

If you're a Republican or Conservative in Kalifornia, you'd best vote for CD, he's the ONLY non-RINO choice for Senator.

102

can moderate positions win?

ace. listen we have  hillary dems, and republicans called racists from the defeat of Hillary. she might win something , but she isn't winning middle america that is sick of it all.

and I'm a very mild , liberalish, conservative.

btw not a racist -my sister is married to an illegal, has my gorgeous nephew... still not o.k.

immigrants through the front door! Go America!, illegals (of any type supporting  a lack of ,Sovereignty thumb down. we do have a right of a mixed nationality nation to secure ourselves.

103 damn it. i hate being slow on the thread, how about everyone types with one finger as i do.

104 Well, far be it from me to dispute anyone so incredibly sophisticated as to have read Fritz Lieber, but, Mr. "best thief in Lankhmar", the reason her hair looks that way is because that's how it grows back after chemo.  In other words, it's not a style choice, it's the reality of her life.  Which has been irrevocably changed by a cancer that may or may not kill her.  So glibly telling her it's "not a good" look and makes her look like a "dyke", are the insensitive comments of an asshole.  And if you don't get that, feel free to slap the same label on your own forehead and call it a day.

105 Name some names, who exactly adopted a racist tone?

106 glad I havent sent Carly any dough if she is flip flopping and taking the Dem bait and bashing AZ on this...I went ahead and gave to Sue Lowden in NV b/c I really think she would be great, but in the Cali primary I was waiting to see who won, so is DeVore a good guy?
Dems have GOP out there depressing voter enthusiasm with all this anti AZ talk, stand up GOP say you back the bill..dont be chickens, that way lies the Cameron like lack of enthusiasm in a year when Tories should sweep...

107 I'm so glad that I'm out of California.  My new home in Texas is actually part of the United States and not northern Mexico.

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106 ...the reason her hair looks that way is because that's how it grows back after chemo.  In other words, it's not a style choice, it's the reality of her life.  Which has been irrevocably changed by a cancer that may or may not kill her. 

FFS, once again---We know she had chemo. So? The man was stating his opinion that the short dyke cut is not a good look on her. There are slammin' looking wigs out there. Since when is it impermissible to criticize a candidate based on their looks?

Her battle with cancer is completely irrelevant--unless of course, the woman isn't clear of cancer, in which case, she shouldn't be wasting her time, our ours, running for office, when we've got a perfectly good conservative candidate in DeVore. It's not like we need her to run California into the ground, like she did HP.

Not every fucking haircut in the world is badge of honor.

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