1 Hate to see the recoil on that gun.

2 "Made In USA?" I like it.

3 Made in USA.. found in Taiwan.. oh the irony.

4 Hehe....check out the logo.

5

ace:

The Taurus Judge is a revolver that fires both 45 Long Colt and 410 shotguns, so they are made.

6 Makes me wish I had tool making skillz. Course, I do like my fingers.......

7 I have fired my skeet gun with one hand, and it is difficult to control. I can't imagine that a pistol, which is lighter, would be any easier.

I think Ace should try this one first.

8 Good lord, the kickback on that thing must be a bitch.

9 Wouldn't that thing have way too much kick to fire accurately?

10 Pull trigger.Blow hand off. My kinda weapon.

11 Not new.  Colt made a revolving shotgun back in the middle 1800's that was a twelve gauge.  I think they may have made one in 10 gauge as well but I'm not sure.

Of course the Colt wasn't a pistol, though you could chop off the barrel and round off the stock to a pistol grip.   I wouldn't really classify that thing pictured above as a pistol either.  It's got a vertical front grip so it's made for two-handed operation.

I certainly wouldn't trust it enough to actually fire it myself.  Looks a bit 'risky'.

12 Unless that thing weighs like 20lbs then all I can say is that is Ouch.

13
I imagine it looks something like this when fired.

14 Stainless 12ga flare pistols also work well, though single shot.

You can use a variety of shells:

http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/12gaugeammo.html

15 10: all you need to be is "close enough"

16 I see that this weapon is so safe that you don't need a trigger guard.

17

Pistols that shoot shotgun shells are exotic, but not unknown. But they've been limited to .410 caliber shells in the past. This is a full 12-gauger.

I always wanted to get a Thunder Five.  Seems like it would be the best home defense weapon.  Wide pattern.  Doesn't go through too many walls.

If you wanna see one, that hick friend of the protagonist in the movie Three Kings uses one.

18 The LeMatt revolver was (I think) a 9 shot .44 caliber with a 20 or 28 gauge shotgun barrel mounted in the middle. Only one shot, but hey. JEB Stuart carried one.

19 A 12-guage revovler is crazy.  It'd break your hand or wrist.  Seems like.  Even with the grip for the other hand.  (See pic.)

20 How do you say, "Go ahead, make my day." in Mandarin?

21 RECOIL, probably not any worse than 44 magnum. Maybe not even as bad. in a 2-3/4 magnum (12 instead of 9 pellets) 00 buckshot load you could get 72 big ones in the air in 2 blinks. Hellofa up close weapon. Enhance the grip for better control & carry an fanny pack full of amo LOL.

22 Look up "Thunder Five," guys.

23 Damn, that's what I was hoping I got from my Secret Santa for Christmas!

24 Correction:  LeMat revolver, 9 round .36 or .42 caliber revolver, with a 16 gauge in the middle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver

25 "Gunsmiths" better not be making this unless they have a Class III manufacturers license.  The fore-end grip is a BIG no-no on a pistol.  THe carbon 15 is a great example of a good concept for a rifle-caliber semiauto pistol, but the barrel is just too short to stabilize and accelerate the bullet.  Better off spending the $200 on the Class II SBR (short barreled rifle) tax stamp and get a 12" barrel on the AR/M4 platform.

26 Oh sure, now I find out about this masterpiece of a gun...

27 The only reason the Thunder Five is legal is because the barrel is half-assed rifled (and it also shoots a .40, IIRC), so the makers can claim it's a pistol, not a short shotgun.

28 both the "Judge" and the "Thunder 5" are idiotic.  A .410 has almost no power, is invariably loaded with birdshot, and with a 4-6 inch barrel probably couldn't get through thick leather.

Look up the Judge on teh Box o Truth

29

Did anyone post the video of the asswipe firing a pistol grip 12 ga by looking down the sights?

(now toothless)

30 In the interest of accuracy it is .410 bore not caliber

31 I think I'd have made the butt a little more ergonomic! There's a tradition of this sort of thing in China. The favorite handgun of warlord officers and gangsters in the 30's and 40's was the Broomhandle Mauser Not content with the German model, or the Spanish variations, Chinese gunsmiths created a truly impressive .45 ACP version! http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/Shansei01.jpg

32

That looks like a Beretta Trident logo. I'm guessing it started life as some sort of semi-auto reciever that has been severely Bubba'd into the wrist-breaking monstrosity shown. 

I'd pay $5 to watch someone else shoot it. From a safe distance. Through a nice thick lexan window.

33 There used to be a training video from the H&K guys that illustrated one-handed firing of the M1 Super90 (a Benelli 12g shotgun). I have never tried it - but am strangely tempted. Like how they counterfeited a Made in the USA stamp on to it - I guess to make the cops think it was made in Korea.

34 Clever, these Chinese.

35 33: I wonder if it would be like that video of all those guys trying to fire that TRex rifle

36

You better wear a glove on the hand you use to hold the foregrip.

Powder burns sting like hell.

37 I thought somebody here in the US made that shotgun that looks sort of like a tommy gun?

38 Is that a gun in your pocket or... have you lost your fucking mind?

39 that is NOT a "pistol" a handgun with a forward mounted vertical grip is classified as an Any Other Weapon (AOW), and must be registered with the BATFE.

40 >>>The LeMatt revolver was (I think) a 9 shot .44 caliber with a 20 or 28 gauge shotgun barrel mounted in the middle. Only one shot, but hey. JEB Stuart carried one. Speaking of exotic western weaponry... In the good the bad and the ugly, in the stalking sequence in the town being shelled by the union, one bad guy has a "revolver," but the barrel is sooooo long it looks like... a rifle. Does anyone know what that weapon is? I guess it might just be a revolver-action rifle but I think it had a pistol grip. I mean, the barrel was like 2 feet long.

41 This oddly reminds me of an ad I saw long ago in Hemmings, or somesuch... Someone was selling a late eighties Jaguar XJ-S with the hood removed and the engine replaced with a blown big block Chevy V8. The ad read "For the man with a champagne budget and beer taste."

42 I like the "Made in USA." Cue libs whining about the US "exporting gun violence" in 3...2...1...

As I have mentioned before, my mom is Taiwanese. I'm always baffled by the gun laws over there. Guns are banned but of course the "black societies" (criminal gangs) never have any problem getting any. It really does screw over the regular citizens who have no means of protecting themselves.

43 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOq9a8sAHfg

44

both the "Judge" and the "Thunder 5" are idiotic.  A .410 has almost no power, is invariably loaded with birdshot, and with a 4-6 inch barrel probably couldn't get through thick leather.

Yeah, well what are you going to do when you get attacked by a gang of wild ducks in your own home.  You don't want to shoot the neighbors with an errant round, big bullet shooter boy.

45 Speaking of China and firearms, here's a interesting bit of history from the turn of the century:

"In April 1907, [Zhang] published a treatise, "Improving Tibetan
Customs" (Banfa Zang su gailiang), in both Tibetan and Chinese."

<i>1. When a boy turns eighteen, he should learn martial arts and the
use of the Mauser gun (Maose qiang) so that he can defend his hometown.

2. The Mauser is an essential piece of equipment for protecting yourselves
and your homes. Without it, you will surely be bullied. A Mauser costs
37 rupees, and 1,000 bullets costs 7 rupees. They are sold everywhere in
India and Sichuan.

Everyone, man or woman, should spend 44 rupees to buy a gun and bullets. When you are free, go hunting.

Proceeds from thesale of several white foxes, lynxes, or tigers will repay the cost of the gun and bullets.

After that, gains from hunting will be extra income. When foreign enemies or robbers come, you can fight them with your guns, for the sake of the Buddha.</i>"

Good advice even today. You always have to be prepared to deal with foreign enemies, robbers or Audi's Econazigruppen

46 Two friends of mine recently bought "The Judge", a 45-caliber revolver that will also shoot .410 shotgun shells. Perfect for home defense.

47
speaking of The Judge...

some of you car-enthusiasts might remember Pontiac's GTO...The Judge.

pretty rare car, today

48 That looks like something that will go terribly, terribly wrong.

49 That would be so handy when you've got motherfuckin' snakes on the motherfuckin' plane!

50 Good bad ugly revolver/rifle

Colt 1860 Army

or


Remington 1858 "Cattleman's Carbine"

51 Posted by: ace at February 16, 2010 02:34 PM (jlvw3)
In the good the bad and the ugly, in the stalking sequence in the town being shelled by the union, one bad guy has a "revolver," but the barrel is sooooo long it looks like... a rifle.

Does anyone know what that weapon is?

I'd guess that it was a Colt Buntline revolver.

52 But does this shoot unicorn slugs?

53 Thanks! It was the second one.

54 lol brewer

those ducks can be deadly, you're right.

physics geek, stick to physics.  A .410 is useless for home defense.

Less than 2" of penetration in flesh.

See Box o truth link, above.

It's physics!

55 no worries, ace.


BTW, that movie site is flat out awesome for identifying movie weaponry.

56 I carry a derringer in 10 gauge.

57 I build guns as a hobby. I have machine tools and I can use them to less than .001 inch total tolerance. This "gun" is amatuerish. I could do much better.

58 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=458387
U.S. Department of Justice

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Washington, DC 20226

Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a Handgun

“Handgun” is defined under Federal law to mean, in part, a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand…. Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(29).

Under an implementing regulation of the National Firearms Act (NFA), 27 C.F.R. § 479.11, “pistol” is defined as a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

The NFA further defines the term “any other weapon” (AOW) as any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e).

ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are “making” a firearm requiring registration with ATF’s NFA Branch. Making an unregistered “AOW” is punishable by a fine and 10 years’ imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered “AOW” is also punishable by fine and 10 years’ imprisonment.

To lawfully add a vertical fore grip to a handgun, a person must make an appropriate application on ATF Form 1, “Application to Make and Register a Firearm.” The applicant must submit the completed form, along with a fingerprint card bearing the applicant’s fingerprints; a photograph; and $200.00. The application will be reviewed by the NFA Branch. If the applicant is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under Federal, State, or local law, and possession of an “AOW” is not prohibited in the applicant’s State of residence, the form will be approved. Only then may the person add a vertical fore grip to the designated handgun.

A person may also send the handgun to a person licensed to manufacture NFA weapons. The manufacturer will install the fore grip on the firearm and register the firearm on an ATF Form 2. The manufacturer can then transfer the firearm back to the individual on an ATF Form 4, which results in a $5.00 transfer tax. If the manufacturer is out of State, the NFA Branch will need a clarification letter submitted with the ATF Form 4 so that the NFA Branch Examiner will know the circumstances of the transfer. Questions can be directed to the NFA Branch or the Firearms Technology Branch.

59 Is this the CCW that DiFi carries?

60 Just what the fashionable Harvard grad wants for their birthday!

61 check out the entry for predator.  It even has the

GE M134 Minigun Handheld

62 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=122&t=458387

63 S'moron plays paintball with a Thunder Five.  Of course, he has hide in place of skin.

64 The only way I'd pull the trigger on that homemade piece of shit would be with 20 feet of 550 cord and me around the corner of a brick wall. I've seen stuff out of Viet Cong jungle workshops that looked better than that.

65 It really just looks like a scaled-down version of a revolving grenade launcher.  Not so new.

66 Ace, I love it when you do gun stuff. You're sooooo butch.

67 Since Ace just referenced my favorite movie, does that mean I get to be his new stalker?

68  Yeah. This aint all that. Dudes are makin' crazy weapons all the time. Kind of boring story, really. But thanks for the digression. I gotta stiffy.

69

Taurus recently released a new, 3" version of The Judge, and Federal Cartridge is making some magnum rounds especially designed for it.

The nice thing about The Judge is that it greatly increases your chance of hitting the target with SOMETHING, rather than missing the target altogether - which is a very real possibility with any handgun when you are nervous and the adrenaline is surging and you probably aren't that good of a marksman to begin with and you might even be a 98 lb weakling - The Judge [and a nice Federal round] just about guarantees that at least one piece of lead will hit the target.

And if all of the lead hits the target, then, well, I wouldn't want to be the target...

 

 

70

Once when I was a kid, dad and I were at an exotic sports car mechanic's shop.  I was looking around, and asked about the clutchless, tiptronic shifter on a Porshe.  The old, drunk mechanical wizard offered, apparently, the greatest statement of derison he knew:  "I wouldn't have one of those up my ass."

It must be really bad, then.

Well, I don't think SGT Dan would have one of those Taiwanese Big Bangs up his ass. 

71 brewer, I was going to try to make some crack about you playing russian roulette with a semi-auto, but that got me thinking about the only really effective use of this weapon: a suicide machine.

A 12 ga will take off your cranium, no problem.  even from a 6 inch barrel

72
During the heyday of the British Raj, tiger hunters used to carry double-barreled "howdah" pistols, in case the tiger tried to claw its way up the elephant to get at the hunters:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfe32mc

The one in this site is 16-gauge, though they came larger as well. They were designed to stop a charging tiger in its tracks.

Granted, it's not a revolver. But odds are, if you missed, you'd never have a chance to fire a second shot.

73 THIS is why banning guns is stupid. Where there's a will (and a milling machine), there's a way.

74 What about snake load? It turns your pistol into a shotgun, at least for the one cartridge.

75 Dianna, I don't think s'moron would have snake load up his ass.

76 IllTemperedCur: THIS is why banning guns is stupid. Where there's a will (and a milling machine), there's a way.


Yeppers.

Cutting board -> AR-15 lower.

77 The goo 410 Ammo for the Judge

Winchester Ammunition PDX1 410 Shot Shell Animation

Winchester Ammunition PDX1 12 Animation

78

76 What about snake load? It turns your pistol into a shotgun, at least for the one cartridge.

Usually .22 cal, but can be had in 38/.357 as well, Effective on small soft targets out to 5 yards or so. Pests mostly.

79 Winchester PDX1 .410 Demo from SHOT Show 2010

80 Thanks, jjjj. I'd still like a T-5 for home defense.

81 Someone spent a good amount of time working on that thing.

I note that it has a fluted cylinder and a Weaver rail on top for mounting optics; two truly redundant features.

Usually super-big bore revolvers (and this one should count) use a NON-fluted cylinder to INCREASE weight , thereby decreasing felt recoil.

Also, no point in putting a rail on top for a sight since this is hardly an "aiming" type gun.   You point in direction of target, you pull trigger.

Kind of an interesting design, but you could get 80% of the same effect with a simple sawed-off coach gun, giving you two shots.

A gun like this was used in the 90s Batman movie by the Joker (Jack Nicholson) to kill his lead henchman.

82

So. Is it difficult to load?

83 rdbrewer, here is home defense >

84 I use the "Judge" to shoot snakes on my parents' property.  You can't miss those pesky copperheads or cottonmouths with it.   

85 Home Defense! Get off my LAWN! W00t!

86

It's no Nock volley gun, but I'd hit it.

87

And this is a good demonstration as to why gun bans are stupid and efforts to erase all guns from society are ultimately doomed.  The industrial equipment is out there.  The technical know-how is out there.  Unless the hoplophobes want to ban metalworking equipment, people will still be able to fashion guns. 

You want to limit crimes committed with guns?  Have the populace able to protect themselves instead of tilting at windmills by taking away their guns.

 

I know...preaching to the choir.

88

Have not read the story and will not be doing so in the future but my guess is that this weapon hasn't been fired more than once, if at all.

I once knew a drug dealer who put a laser on a riot gun. Surprisingly, he never did any jail time whatsoever, for anything. So maybe he was smarter than the average drug dealer.

89 #80

Pistol caliber shotshells are commercially available in .22LR, .38/.357, 9mm luger, and .44 special/magnum. 

They all group fairly badly from pistols, leaving a wide pattern at close range, but they're perfectly adequate for a rodent or snake at 10 feet or less (which is the whole point of them).  I wouldn't trust the .22LR shot to kill a big snake, by the way. 

Taurus judge is a novelty gun sold via brilliant marketing to dummies who aren't gun savvy.   As a defensive arm, frankly, it sucks, and there are MUCH better choices for your money.

The short rifled barrel won't pattern ordinary .410 shot for crap, making this gun useless for any hunting application past 5 yards.  You also can't reliably break clays with it past 5 yards.  In short despite its appearane, the pistol really will NOT do what you might expect an ordinary shotgun to do.

No point in using .410 buckshot for defense since the lightweight shot rounds are ballistically anemic from a short barreled pistol, offering poor penetration, poor accuracy, and random/unpredictable grouping.  Further, the shot aren't spin-stabilized, so range is limited too.  If you actually want to cause a hurt on something, you're better off using the .45 long colt rounds.

Now if you were to actually fill your gun with .45 long colt rounds, you're stuck with an oversized overweight monstrosity of a pistol that won't group well because of the long cylinder/barrel gap the extra long .410-capable cylinder necessitates.   .45 Colt is somewhat of a specialty round too, being scarcer than more popular rounds like .357 and generally more expensive.

In short, the Taurus "judge" is actually the WORST of both worlds: a poor excuse for a shotgun married to a bulky inaccurate revolver in a semi-obscure caliber.  For any defensive or offensive purpose even including defense from snakes, you're almost certainly better off with a more conventional revolver in a more conventional caliber.

90 What? Is it passe to say, "It's old"?

91

#83  A gun like this was used in the 90s Batman movie by the Joker (Jack Nicholson) to kill his lead henchman.

Was it the same one that extended out to several feet and the Joker used it to shoot down the Bat-Plane?

/Batman misses the Joker with his machine gun and missile volleys, but the Joker puts down Batman's plane with one shot?

92  Posted by: looking closely at February 16, 2010 03:41 PM (PwGfd)


All of this may be true, but you're missing the most important reason to own one.

It makes Sarah Brady cry.

Good enough for me.

93

Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are “making” a firearm requiring registration with ATF’s NFA Branch. Making an unregistered “AOW” is punishable by a fine and 10 years’ imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered “AOW” is also punishable by fine and 10 years’ imprisonment.

So, the 2nd Ammendment is a joke then?  I'm glad we got that cleared up.

Is it too much too ask why such unconstitutional laws haven't been challenged and swept away in the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave"?

94 #93,

You are talking about this ridiculously long-barreled revolver, I think.

No. . .I meant a different scene.

Its been about 20 years, but I remember there is a scene where the Joker asks his henchman (played by character actor Tracey Walter) to hand him his pistol.  The henchman complies, and then the Joker (Nicholson) immediately shoots him in the head with it!

If I remember right THAT gun (the henchmans gun) is a cut down 12 gauge shotgun pistol.  

95 Looks scary...for the guy shooting it.

96 Given the choice, I would rather have the flashlight pistol from last nights ONT.

97

The only way I'd pull the trigger on that homemade piece of shit would be with 20 feet of 550 cord and me around the corner of a brick wall. I've seen stuff out of Viet Cong jungle workshops that looked better than that.    Posted by: SGT Dan at February 16, 2010 02:55 PM (GgXZc)

NO SHIT. I was thinking the same thing when I saw that picture.

98 And look. . .its a young Mel Gibson in the original Mad Max with a cut down 12 gauge shotgun pistol.

Looks like he could have chopped off another few inches from either end.

99

Speelr, how many emms in Ammmmmendment?

The Second was compromised before the 1934 NFA, but you can thank Dillinger, Baby Face, and Bonnie & Clyde (more accurately J. Edgar Hoover's great PR for them) for actually making it an academic point. It's so ingrained now that the NRA supports both that law and its 1968 follow-on.

In the 1920's you could order a Thompson by mail from a magazine ad. It was suggested as a means to get wolves off the cattle. Oddly enough, not many people bought them.

100 Again I ask.  Has anyone seen the gun that fires electrically and has no clip?  With some ridiculously high rate of fire?

101 www.metalstorm.com

102 Doesn't answer the question.  I already knew people used to buy Tommy guns through mail order, BARs too.

103 Ummm, yeah , think I'll stick with my 1911 in .45 unless my 12 gauge pump is within arms reach . Cause I like to keep things simple .

104 You thinking about the MetalStorm stuff, FUBAR?

105 Rocket launcher pistols next?

106 Kristopher - that link cost me an hour of work, great stuff.

107

Waterfowlers will love its portability, to and from the

blind.  BTW, will it handle 3" shells?

108 #107 Rocket launcher pistols next?

Its been done.

109 The only bad gun is the gun you don't have on you when you need it.

110 Here's another short shotgun, the Remington 870 "supershorty". 

Its a quality build, and supposedly there are US Secret Service who actually carry these.

111 That "weapon" looks like a prime example of misplaced human effort.  I mean, sure, it's fun to imagine blasting off 12 ga. slugs or buck from a pistol sized weapon, but to expend the effort to manufacture such a thing for any purpose other than pure novelty seems like waste.  For a fraction of the cost/time/effort one could handily get a shot gun, or a few shot guns, and saw them off quite short.  If you think you will need that extra 2-4 rounds this revolver offers, well, maybe it's time to plan things better.

112 looking closely, that is NOT a shot it's an AOW (Any Other Weapon) , and needs to be registered with the Feds..

look at the bottom of the page.

** This product requires federal registration under the national firearms act of 1934.Please see our NFA Ordering page for information on this process. There is a $100 fee on cancelled NFA orders due to the lengthy paperwork process.

113 Didn't Steve McQueen carry a sawed off 30-30 or 1897 in a holster in "Wanted Dead or Alive" ? Seems like a better idea.

114

I thought somebody here in the US made that shotgun that looks sort of like a tommy gun?

That would be the Auto Assault 12.

The AA12 is a fully automatic 12g shotgun and I want to have sex with it.

115 Posted by: CharlieDontSurf at February 16, 2010 04:16 PM (0Xpf6)

You thinking about the MetalStorm stuff, FUBAR?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2010 04:17 PM (I/MqP)

Ye-heh-heaaa!  Saw it on the military channel.  Scared the shit out of my buddy when I all the sudden yelled BUNK!

116 never mind: Winchester Model 1892 "Mare's Leg" A shortened version of the Winchester Model 1892 saddle ring carbine known affectionately as "Mare's Leg was used by Steve McQueen through out the duration of the show, chambered in .44-40 (despite the large .45-70 rounds on his belt). The first version of this gun was a rounded barrel model with a D shaped loop, which was later changed to an octagonal version with a tear drop loop.

117 The scary part is picturing the Taiwanese giant that this was built for.

118 That might be a 'first' as far as a revolver goes, but I once took away a '12 guage' from a tweaker.  He'd taken an old expended military hand flare, cut a hole in the aluminum bottom to allow insertion of a 12 guage round up to the rim of the shell.  All you had to do was take the top (with the firing pin), slide it over the bottom, point it at your target, then smack the top, driving the pin into the shot shell primer.  Damned thing actually worked!

119 @ #31...

.410 is the only true CALIBER (i.e. fractions of an inch) of modern shotguns.  When you talk GAUGE, (i.e. 10, 12, 16, 20...) you are referring to how many lead spheres at that diameter it takes to add up to one pound. 

The more you know....

120 Just think of the fun Amy Bishop could have had with that....

121

Other morons have already point this out coz its fucking self-evidently true but whatev's:

Aim...

fire...

pick hand, fingers and forearm off ground 50 yards away...

have friend drive you to nearest E.R.

122 That's gotta kick like a bastard.

123 Godzirra lives.

124 I dunno that looks like it would make for a good youtube video shooting that thing off.

125 They should put that in Call fo Duty Modern Warfare 3

126 From the photo I am guessing that it is made out of solid steel so the front hand grip might be just to hold the thing up.  I would estimate that the thing weighs about 20 pounds which would make recoil relatively mild.  Of course, it would also cause your pants to fall down if you somehow hung it from your belt.