1 By using O'Donnells margin of error, I think I am within 10% of Castle

2 When is this primary by the way? Considering everyone is talking about it I can only assume it is in the next few weeks.

3 To me, Cap'nTrade is a deal breaker. No rational human can believe in AGW.

4 A lot of people are going to be surprised come November, both republicans and democrats. 

5 I'm inclined to take the bird in the hand rather than the two in the bush.  Much like the Maine Twins and Scott Brown, I'm willing to take someone from a deep blue state who votes with the GOP a small percentage of the time over a hard-left Dem who will vote with the GOP 0% of the time.

I have no objections to going with the more conservative candidate in states which are purple or red, like Alaska, Utah, and Nevada, but I question the wisdom of doing it in a deep blue state like Delaware which has shown no interest in a conservative platform.

6

The RNC and John Cornyn both endorse Castle, which tells me everything I need to know about him.
Now I question the integrity of this website.

7

The Delaware primary is September 14.

 

 

8 I believe Castle killed a dude in college.

9 We are more likely to get Cap'n Tax with the Democrat than with Castle.

10 I read on here that O'Donnell was endorsed by Levin.  So O'Donnell it will be...

11 I believe Castle killed a dude in college.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 07, 2010 12:22 PM (Y81Xa)

After having sex with him, right?

12 After having sex with him, right?

You heard after?

13

Speaking of ObamaCare.  I got this in an e-mail today.  Sorry about the typeface.  I was wondering how Ebola was going to redistribute the wealth of older folks.  I knew he wouldn't let 'em get away with it.

REAL ESTATE SALES TAX Under the new health care bill - did you know that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax?  The bulk of these new taxes don't kick in until 2013 (presumably after obamaÂ’s re-election).  You can thank Nancy, Harry and Barack and your local Democrat Congressman for this one.  If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax.  This bill is set to impact the retiring generation who often downsize their homes.  Is this Hope & Change great or what?  Does this stuff makes your November and 2012 votes more important?

 

 

So, this is "change you can believe in"? Under the new health care bill - did you know that all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax?  The bulk of these new taxes don't kick in until 2013 (presumably after obamaÂ’s re-election).  You can thank Nancy, Harry and Barack and your local Democrat Congressman for this one.  If you sell your $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax.  This bill is set to impact the retiring generation who often downsize their homes.  Is this Hope & Change great or what?  Does this stuff makes your November and 2012 votes more important?
Oh, you weren't aware this was in the obamacare bill? Guess what, you aren't alone. There are more than a few members of Congress that aren't aware of it either (result of clandestine midnight voting for huge bills they've never read). AND, there are a few other surprises lurking.

 

 

14 "11 I believe Castle killed a dude in college.
Posted by: Dr. Spank at September 07, 2010 12:22 PM (Y81Xa)

After having sex with him, right?

Posted by: DrewM. at September 07, 2010 12:25 PM (ycZcD)"

Had to check and make sure I wasn't on huff and poos...what's up with that?  I mean really attack on policy and past performance don't make things up.

15 #11 No no, they were caught double-anal-stuffing O'Donnell. You know, anal sex doesn't count, so her thousands and thousands of double and triple rectal rootering doesn't affect her virgin status. Well...at least thats what I heard.. and if I heard it, and she denies it, well then it MUST be true...

16 Two points.  First, the pragmatic one: a little bit of something is better than 100% of nothing. 

Second, I really have to wonder why her campaign finds it necessary to act like SEIU thugs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dQKdFoFMa4

17 I'd support Castle, but I like my candidates to have a 3 stroke minimum.

18 RASMUSSEN REPORTS- 6 PT SHIFT FROM LAST POLL- CALIFORNIA SENATE FIORINA 48% BOXER 47% Fiorina leads in Rasmussen for the first time, ever.

19

Had to check and make sure I wasn't on huff and poos...what's up with that?  I mean really attack on policy and past performance don't make things up.

Posted by: curious at September 07, 2010 12:26 PM (p302b)

I'm always amazed when I watch leftoids try to make a similar accusation against Beck - that he raped and killed a woman.

Of course the same people tend to love rapist Clinton and murderer Ted Kennedy, so maybe they are trying to compliment him?

20

I'm inclined to take the bird in the hand rather than the two in the bush

 

I LOVE this commerical.

21
13 - yep.
ObamaCare is a huge tax increase.  Hidden taxes and fees everywhere you look.
2000+ pages gives democrats a lot of room for their hobby; taxing us to death.

22 I swore I'd stop doing this, but it makes the lambs scream.
EKE out control.
EKE, not EKE.

23 Posted by: RushBabe at September 07, 2010 12:26 PM (a3Z62)

Far be it from me to defend libs, but I think there's some inaccuracies in the teal type. Exclusions based on income, and also the tax based on profit not gross numbers. That's not to say it would surprise me if the teal type were entirely true. But I don't think it is.

24 EKE, not EKE.

Uhhhh ... you need to get your friend Little Miss Proofreader on the case

25 Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2010 12:32 PM (7BU4a)

I am having such fun this morning, I've read, tactfully placed in comments on several blogs, that Glenn Beck has gone to Alaska and taken time off so that he can plan his presidential run in 2012.....and that "they are making you think it will be Palin but it will be Beck" cause they know....it's too funny

26 FIORINA 48%
SENATOR BOXER 47%

Fiorina leads in Rasmussen for the first time, ever.

FTFY.

27 D'oh. EKE not EEK.

28 #26 SENATOR FIORINA 48% MA'AM BOXER 47% Correcting your correction. If RCP switched over to JUST LV polls, Republicans would be leading in WA,CA,WI,CO,PA,AR,ND,IN,DE,IL. Of course they will still hold onto 6 week old RV polls from PPP until a favorable Boxer poll pops up.

29 Two points.  First, the pragmatic one: a little bit of something is better than 100% of nothing. 

Not necessarily. Suppose we get 46 seats with Castle, and he votes with the Dems 50% of the time.

On each one of those votes, the media will trumpet the bipartisan support for the bill and use Castle to hammer us on the vote., especially if he says something nasty, like Christy Todd Whitman or Jim Jeffords used to do.

Is that worth the 50% vote? Probably not.

OTOH, if he is the 51st vote in the Senate for the Republicans, that vote half the time is, to quote Biden, a BFD.

So, the question works out like this, IMO;

How close do we get to 51? If we get between 49 and 52 even serious RINOs become more valuable.

How much can we get him on board the program? He isn't going to vote with us all the time, but how many important votes will he screw us over? Even if we only get 50% of his votes, it matters which 50%.

Can he be polite in disagreeing? Look at Guilani. As he is a moderate, conservatives disagree with him a lot, but he doesn't seem to take the low road and slam conservatives in leftist terms when he differs with them.

30 Why do you Blue Hens have your primary so late?

31 Why do you Blue Hens have your primary so late? Posted by: Jean at September 07, 2010 12:42 PM (THrql) Birth control pills?

32 #29 I direct you to the polling out of Washington and California now giving both Republicans the lead, coupled with Buck's slim lead, Kirk's very slim lead in Illinois, Johnson's slim deficit in WI, Angle's in NV, and our comfortable ones in 5 other states. Not only is the Senate flipping POSSIBLE, I think its about a 45% possibility now.

33 Is Mike Castle Slightly Less Horrible Than We Think?

NO he is not. How can he be when he bounces back and forth between 50 and 20.

He is a fucking DIABLO who votes with the Dems more than the Republicans.  Hell, some here want him on the fucking Judicial committee along with Lindsey Graham.

We have beat this rented mule to death. Give it up.

34 What's going on here, heard something about the republican being sued by right haven?

When you google "right haven" the first link is one of those wacky conspiracy type sites but they apparently have done some digging and the connections seem interesting at the least.

35 Whenever I think of Delaware I think of that goony DuPont who had a thing for wrestlers. Crazy as a shithouse rat.

36

Abused prison wives.

The failure to support conservative candidates in the primary because "they can't win" sounds more like LOSERS than those willing to make change.

Castle stinks.  Accept it.  We have done this dance with Chafee, Spector, and Jeffords.

If Castle wins the primary, then yes, support Castle in the general.  But until the primary is over, support O'Donnell.

For those who say O'Donnell can't win, what are you doing for the conservative cause?  Are you donating?  Are you canvassing?  Are you helping?  Will you do so after the primary if O'Donnell wins?  Or is whining all you good for.

"O'Donnell can't win".  I wonder if Gen. Washington said that after losses in NY and NJ.  Glad you weren't alive then.

37 rushbabe......i didn't know about the 3.8% tax.....this is bad..........

38 So when you plug in NY Senate race on real clear politics you only get Kristin and company.   How come you don't get Schumer?   Sure, it was embarrassing when he won last time with over 70% of the vote but, that doesn't mean that someone shouldn't challenge the guy?  That doesn't mean that real clear politics has a right to cover for him by not even noting the race.  That is just plain wrong....and highly misleading.

39 How close do we get to 51? If we get between 49 and 52 even serious RINOs become more valuable.

And there is your answer.  There are only so many opportunities to pick up seats.  We can't throw any of them away.  Delaware is not a red state.  It's not even remotely purple, for that matter.  It's a mug's game to demand purity from the republican candidate there.

40 real clear politics....NY Senate...

41

Why use google when there are so many other & better search engines?

I use bing...

42 To me, Cap'nTrade is a deal breaker. No rational human can believe in AGW.

Posted by: real joe at September 07, 2010 12:19 PM (IpIBJ)

The people who wrote Crap and Tax don't believe in AGW either. Even the "true believers" in the Sierra Club say crap and tax does nothing for AGW.

Crap and tax is nothing more than a bill to advance the cause of communism in the U.S. and nationalize the electrical industry.

That is why voted for crap and tax is a deal breaker and a sure sign of pure RINO, if not outright DIABLO.

43 I use bing... Posted by: serfer62 at September 07, 2010 12:52 PM (HLCnI) Yeah but I hate those pop ups when you scroll over bing?

44 Posted by: serfer62 at September 07, 2010 12:52 PM (HLCnI)

I'm a trained apple fan girl....guess I never thought of using bing

45

I wonder if there might be some relationship between Castle's lead in the polls and his moderate voting record.  Again, it's Delaware, people.

46

OT

George Soros - monster

 

47 http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-38-percent-sales-tax-on-your-home/ rushbabe....i found this at factcheck......it is in there and it's another attack on the wealthy.....

48 I think Mike Castle is one awesome Republican ultra-conservative dude.

49

MILWAUKEE — President Barack Obama, scrambling to spur job creation, proposed a six-year plan on Monday to rebuild infrastructure with an initial $50 billion investment and prepared new business tax cuts.

"We are going to rebuild 150,000 miles of our roads -- that's enough to circle the world six times. ... We're going to lay and maintain 4,000 miles of our railways -- enough to stretch coast-to-coast," Obama told a labor rally in Milwaukee where several thousand supporters cheered his every line.

Just like all that infrastructure they rebuilt last year.

Obama will also announce on Wednesday a proposal for the U.S. Congress to increase and permanently extend a tax credit for business research and development. It would cost $100 billion over 10 years.

Cost? Who will it cost? Reuters with old tax cuts or credits cost money bullshit.

 

50 . . .
RETIRE MIKE CASTLE.
In the immortal words of Margaret Thatcher: "Don't go wobbly on me, George."

51 "Poppin' Fresh" is fappin' like mad at Tepid Air over all the pollish goodness today! Up one, down two...what do the crosstabs portend?

I guess I'd care if polls so far ahead of the election meant all that much. But they don't.

52 51 Scribbler,

give Poppin' Fresh time for his mellow pills to kick in....he took his geritol this morning without the laudanum chaser sohe gets that way as his bowels get agitated.

53

Interesting, HotAir, Ace, and Redstate all have DE RINO Fee-Vah!!

Fascinating, fascinating . . .

54 Wait until PF sees the California Rasmussen poll...

55 the rino's are complicit in the libs destruction of America

56 Castle?  O'Donnell?

If we get to pick the Senate majority leader instead on the Senate minority leader, it's still a win.  Better a conservative than a RINO, but better a RINO than a Democrat.

Sometimes, you have to establish a beachhead - ANY beachhead - before you can liberate Paris.

57 Delaware is a weird little state.   Up north in Wilmington it's uber-liberal, metropolitan, and upscale.  In parts of southern Delaware you'd think you were in Mississippi, with the sharecroppers

58 To all my liberal friends. Don't forget to show up and vote on 3 November !!!!!!!

59 46

OT

George Soros, monster

Posted by: maddogg at September 07, 2010 12:54 PM (OlN4e)

Every day I wake up hoping something horrible has befallen that human piece of debris.

60 All this Mike Castle love around here is getting really disconcerting. 

Treading a bit too close to Chucky Johnson territory here, methinks.

61 What's all this talk about Nora O'Donnell? Isn't she a liberal actress? I don't know why we keep talking about her! All I hear when someone brings up the Delaware Senate race is O'Donnell! O'Donnell! O'Donnell!

62 Is Mike the right GOP candidate for the Senate?  I don't know.  Conisder this though:  "A man's House is his Castle."  Hmmm.....

63 All this Mike Castle love around here is getting really disconcerting. 

Treading a bit too close to Chucky Johnson territory here, methinks.

Now that's just fucking retarded.

64 Oh, and Mike Castle, Mmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmm just doesn't roll of the tongue like Barak Hussein Obama does.   Obviously, we can't vote for this man!

65

"We have beat this rented mule to death. Give it up."

I get that Delaware is within spittin' distance of DC and effluent rolls downhill.  It cannot be that Gabe, Drew and Ace are GOP sock-puppets, it must be they're sagacious fonts of pragmatic can-do utility to Amerikka the soiled and destitute. 

Just give us a heap of that go-along-to-get-along compromise and I'll bet we can reduce the deficit to a few hundred billion. 

66

Every day I wake up hoping something horrible has befallen that human piece of debris.

I often wonder why some government hasn't flushed that turd.

67 She's getting a lot of flack cause she has won and lost before, is a woman, isn't a blond and has honestly complained about being followed around by people and she isn't sure whether they are working for the dem or this republican or both.  (people automatically assume she is lying)  But, since Mark Levin endorsed her, I'm thinking everyone on here is really wrong.

68

Of course now that a new Rasmussen poll is out showing O'Donnell getting shellacked by Coons, the O'Donnell camp will continue to claim that Rasmussen is spiking her poll numbers to help elect Castle.  Yes, her campaign has actually been claiming that.  Funny how they touted the Rasmussen poll from early July that showed her beating Coons by 2% but now that Rasmussen shows her getting crushed, she is claiming Rasmussen is the lying spawn of the devil.

 

It won't be long before O'Donnell starts talking about her own line of action figures, as she is the Republican version of Alvin Greene.  The only thing she has going for her is her looks.

69 curious......mark levin also HATES beck....so i say he's become suspect......

70 Why do we need control of the Senate this cycle?

What does his one vote on a plurality of issues buy us?

Is it worth possibly losing another close election in the future because Castle trades votes with an at-risk Dem in 2012, allowing that Dem to gain ballots by voting "against" Obama?

Is it worth the ammunition it gives the Left and the Press (I know, I repeat myself) when claiming bipartisan support of such nation-killing things as Cap & Trade?

I just have a hard time getting around that. Yeah, cap & trade is pretty much DOA in this climate, but...

Is it ok to vote for a politician that votes with the Republicans 75% of the time, but admits he would occasionally rape a jogger in the park if only he lived near a park with joggers?

No? What if he votes w/ us 99 % of the time? Your answer better still be No.

The AGW hoax is not dead yet, and even when it is, there will be another hysterical enviro-cause to take its place. McCain & Graham and the current crop of RINOs are bad enough. Do we need to give them any more support from the right?

Seriously - why do we need this seat, given the gains we are going to be making in other battles with strong conservatives?

If we believe in the Conservative way, then the best way to turn this country away from its decades-long slide to Socialism is to let those states that prefer to be slaves to the Government truly enjoy the fruits of their Labor. California is a good example on the verge of complete financial collapse.

I've got a lot of love for the prospect of having clear distinctions between the left & right, so that when failure happens, there leaves little doubt whose policies were to blame.

71 #70 Wait until she starts dancing in a radio studio. Or yelling NOOOOOOOOOOO

72 3 To me, Cap'nTrade is a deal breaker. No rational human can believe in AGW.

AGW is just another example of one of those things that every reasonable person believes that is simply not true.

Castle only believes it because...come on, all the smart people believe it.

73 how many people on this thread can actually vote in Delaware?  I'm betting not too many.

74 With Castle, you have 5 pick-ups locked (Delaware, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Arkansas and Indiana).

I'm not going to count any chickens here in the Keystone state.  It's looking good, but Sestak is trying to paint Toomey as a right-wing loon, to queer him with the moderates. It'll depend on turnout.

75 I vote everywhere.

76

Posted by: curious at September 07, 2010 01:11 PM (p302b)

 

Well shoot!  I just read O'Donnell's bio and it said that she's an alumnus of Fairly Ridiculous University--Petty Noone's alma mater.  Obviously, this gives her the bonafides to be the GOP candidate for this race!

77 it's hard to take hannity seriously when he greets every caller with that "you're a great American" line.....he doesn't know anything about these people except that they have called his show.......i can't listen to him anymore.......

78 But, since Mark Levin endorsed her, I'm thinking everyone on here is really wrong.

I think Mark Levin is just endorsing the non-Castle.  I don't think he knows anything about her, so if Levin's endorsement is used as a sort of mitigation against your fears that she is full of teh crazy, don't use it.

79

Sorry for the O/T

Sure glad the election isn't today, because it is a freaking monsoon here in Dallas. I had an inch in my rain gauge before I left for the office this morning, and it has never stopped at the office. Hermine is dumping a crap load of rain on some parts of Texas that really need it.

Dave in Texas and Nam Grunt: You guys getting it, too?

80 Doesn't matter.  If we don't win at first count, we'll keep re-counting the votes until we do.  There's a lot of car trunks out there. No biggie.

81 Good news!  I'm also really enthusiastic about abortion!

82

how many people on this thread can actually vote in Delaware?  I'm betting not too many.

 

We don't get to this blog often, but we do make sure we vote in every election and in every state.

83

" All this Mike Castle love around here is getting really disconcerting. 

Treading a bit too close to Chucky Johnson territory here, methinks."

No, that quote isn't in the least bit retarded.  Given the actions of the Tea Party in this race, and their seeming obliviousness to reason, I am quite frankly of the opinion that their actions in Delaware are meant to be shots across the bows of Lindsey Graham, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.  It seems to be a "vote exactly how we want, regardless of who you represent or how liberal your state is or we will try and primary you" threat aimed at moderate Republicans who are not up for reelection until 2012 or 2014.  They have to realize that O'Donnnell, particularly after the disastrous week she had last week and the scathing ad campaign being run by the Castle people, has no chance of winning in the general.  They want to scare the other moderates in the Senate. 

 

Castle is the only viable candidate in this race.  What would the people here rather have:  a moderate Republican candidate who votes Republican a majority of the time (56% in 2009), whose victory may propel the Republicans into the majortity, thus allowing us the ability to stop Obama's judicial nominees, or an airhead who is more Alvin Greene than Ronald Reagan?

84 #64

It's not "fucking retarded" at all.

Chucky commenced the transformation his site with little tiny hints -- at first -- that , oh, maybe we some of us commenters shouldn't criticize Obama quite so much on every issue.

So when I start to see things like maybe we should not criticize a goddamn tax-and-spender quite so much -- well yes, there is a feeling of deja vu there and not a very happy one.

85 Why do we need control of the Senate this cycle?

Do you really need that explained to you?  Seriously?  Ace goes on and on and on about how important it is to gain control in order to set the legislative agenda, and you are still asking this question?

86 And frankly the one aspect that is being overlooked here is the monumental rebuke of this administration a Republican victory in the race for Biden's seat would be.  It would be a gigantic fuck you of nearly the same magnitude as Brown's win in Massachusetts. 

87 Doesn't matter.  If we don't win at first count, we'll keep re-counting the votes until we do.  There's a lot of car trunks out there. No biggie.

Posted by: Minnesota Democrat Party at September 07, 2010 01:21 PM (c1oyg)

 

Well, you learned from the best--we schooled you guys in 2006.

88 tom.....you are right....but we all have a dog in this fight because what these assholes do when they are in office affects all of us......

89 Yes the woman is crazy because she complains about PIs following her around hoping to catch her in a "stupid" moment.

Yes, the woman is a crook because she used campaign contributions to finance her "house" that turns out to be her "campaign headquarters".

Yes, she made some "kooky" comments like she believes in that outdated rag signed in 1789.

Above all we MUST vote for a flaming bag of communist shit because the R establishment supports him in the primary and we "think" it will give us the Senate.

Personally I think if he won the primary he would be to the left of the Democrat Coons in the race.

Just remember those immortal words of 2008 "Only McCain can beat Hillary".

The strategy of bowing to the so-called moderates and abandoning principle and the Republican platform has worked so well for the Party since the RINOs booted Newt out hasn't it.

In fact it has worked so well that if we repeat it just one more time the party will probably cease to exist.

90 Do you really need that explained to you?  Seriously?  Ace goes on and on and on about how important it is to gain control in order to set the legislative agenda, and you are still asking this question?

Posted by: Phil Smith at September 07, 2010 01:22 PM (n+cpx)

Amen. It's all about committee chairmanships.

91

It just sounds shady to me and just gives me the feeling she's going to love pork and possibly back room tit for tat exchanges.

 

Well, shoot!  She's got Gator's vote then!

92 why are all the gop bloggers suddenly blogging about Mike Castle? as if anyone, including people who live in DE, gives two sh^ts about him.  What next, we start breathlessly reporting on Oly Snow's big challenge from a tea partier?

93 Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 07, 2010 01:13 PM (eOXTH)

I think he dislikes Beck cause Levin is essentially saying the same things but getting no recognition and Beck right now has the ability and notoriety to make rain.

I've encouraged my friends in delaware to vote o'donnel basing it on the long island county executive race where the dem lost and it was a shocker.

94 Completely O/T, but hysterical -  I'm listening to Limbaugh on the Intertubes, and there's a commercial for the American Trial Lawyers Association.  Yeah, that's advertising dollars well spent.  Way to know your audience.

95

 And frankly the one aspect that is being overlooked here is the monumental rebuke of this administration a Republican victory in the race for Biden's seat would be.  It would be a gigantic fuck you of nearly the same magnitude as Brown's win in Massachusetts. 

 

And then there would be puddin' cups for everyone, but first YOU MUST BLOW ME!!!111111!!!

96 Hey Scoob, when George Washington accepted his commission a s general of the Continental Army, he stated that he was ill-equipped for the job and could not promise victory. Tosser.

97 61 All this Mike Castle love around here is getting really disconcerting. Treading a bit too close to Chucky Johnson territory here, methinks..........................Agreed, and it's so predictable, spend last week attacking O'Donnell and spend this week with posts like this one painting a positive picture of Castle.

98 So when I start to see things like maybe we should not criticize a goddamn tax-and-spender quite so much

Really?  That's what people are saying here?  I missed that.  Help a brother out.  What I'm seeing is people saying that O'Donnell probably can't win in Delaware.  Who's saying that it's not okay to criticize Castle?  It's not as retarded as "Ace of Spades is turning into LGF", but it's pretty retarded.  But it's hard to imagine anything quite as retarded as "Ace of Spades is turning into LGF".  That's fucking retarded.

99 Posted by: Phil Smith at September 07, 2010 01:22 PM (n+cpx)

It's meant to provoke thought, Phil...

For instance, suppose we lose this seat this election, but gain the majority in the Senate in 12 with one less Rino.

Good or bad?

Setting the Legislative agenda is kind of pointless when you have guys on your side that can't quite let go of the prospect that the only thing wrong with government spending in the past is that the wrong people had the pursestrings.

Witness: the last Republican majorities.

It's not just the culture of corruption that we need to excise.

It is also the culture of entitlement and spending.

100

Jesus fucking Christ, if you are actually arguing against a Senate majority in order to legitimize O'Donnell's primary run, you need to have your fucking head examined.   Two words:  judicial nominees.   If you have to twist yourself into a fucking logical pretzel by asking "why do we need control of the Senate this cycle", you are a fucking dimwit.  There is simply no way of predicting how the 2012 elections will turn out.  We need to regain the majority to put a brake on the Obama agenda,  right fucking now.  Unless of course you subscribe to the Beckian "hey let's let the Democrats fuck up really bad so that we can win even more seats in a few years" theory.  The only problem with that is that the Dem fuck-ups might end up doing irreversible harm to the United States with  Obamacare being the perfect example. 

Waves like the one that are forming now don't come for the Republican Party very often.   O'Donnell is not going to win.  Nobody of her politcal bent can win in Delaware.  Deliberately tanking Castle by choosing an unserious candidate accomplishes no short-term or long-term strategic goal.  It's DELAWARE FOR FUCK SAKE. 

101

Dave in Texas and Nam Grunt: You guys getting it, too?

NG moved to Louisiana a while back.  I'm in Austin and yeah it's pretty wet here too.

102 Glenn Beck? Never heard of him.

103 I read on here that O'Donnell was endorsed by Levin.  So O'Donnell it will be...
Posted by: curious at September 07, 2010 12:25 PM (p302b)

Curious, try thinking for yourself one in a while. It's quite liberating.

104

RINO FEE-VAH!!

If Castle wins the primary and is elected, can we save the blog opinions and accompanying comment strings ?  It would be interesting to see all the screaming after he screws us and compare to the supporters before.

105 Remember something, douchebags and bagettes:  A RINO in a Republican majority Senate acts a hell of a lot differently than a RINO in a Dhimmi majority Senate.  The Dems will have no leverage on them.  What are they gonna do?  Give him a wedgie in the cloakroom?

The majority is more important than the individuals who make up that majority. 

And let's face it: O'Donnell can't win because she is batshit nuts and can't even balance her own fucking checkbook.  Put Castle in, subject him to the whip, and let's get on with it.  This is DelaFuckingWare, people.

106 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at September 07, 2010 01:31 PM (LH6ir)

castle gives me the creeps

107 113-- Jeffords?  And it was Vermont people.

108

Every day I wake up hoping something horrible has befallen that human piece of debris.

Well karma is a bitch, so I don't think she'll let us down.  I just pray I live long enough to see it for myself. How old is that fucker anyway?

109 #114
castle gives me the creeps

But he is the only republican with a realistic shot at winning. So if he votes republican more than the democrat, we win.

What is so difficult about this concept?

110 #106

No motherfucking pot here, except maybe from people who get zombie-like glazed-over eyes and say, "Gee, maybe this fat-government smear-mongering liberal fellow is not such a bad Republican choice after all! Even though he gives no actual indication of why he has an "R" after his name! Surely government will improve if we persist in filling the Republican caucus with such fellows!"

111 I can only support O'Donnell.   Having a small, pure minority group that can do nothing except bitch off-camera is much preferable to a larger majority group that, you know, can actually affect policy.

That'll show 'em!

112 Why do you Blue Hens have your primary so late?

Posted by: Jean

 

How else would we get any national attention? heave pumpkins? Wait, we do that too.

113 Jeffords?

Along the same lines as Specter.  He left for power.  By swinging the Senate to the Dems, he expected to wield a big stick.  Instead, the Dems jammed it up his ass.  Different scenario.

114

"For instance, suppose we lose this seat this election, but gain the majority in the Senate in 12 with one less Rino."

 

Again, a stupid question.  Arguing it is better to let a Democrat win in Delaware simply because the Republicans MIGHT win the majority in 2012 is just fucking stupid.  Here is your argument put another way: 

    "Hey I want a Democrat who will rubber stamp the Obama agenda to win     in Delaware. I want to lose this once in a generation opportunity for a Republican to win in an increasingly blue state.  I want Coons to win if Castle is nominated.

 

That is the argument boiled down to its essence.  It quite simply amazes me that so many people have so much invested in a candidate, O'Donnell, who is a complete and total fucking joke.  Why would you want a Democrat to win?  It is fucking mind-boggling.  People are now actually arguing that they would rather have Coons win than Castle. 

115 I'd vote for White Castle if there were any around here. good burger I hear what?

116 Can we all just admit that Christine O'Donnell has absolutely zero qualifications for the U.S. Senate?  She's a dimwit, and her tax returns are about as shady as you could ask for.  If she was a Democrat, all her supporters would be tearing her to shreds -- as dumb as Boxer and about as bad with taxes as Rangel or Geithner.

But she goes on Hannity and shouts the right talking points, and that's enough to support her?  Nice standards.

117

" But, since Mark Levin endorsed her, I'm thinking everyone on here is really wrong."

 

And I'm thinking you need to learn to think for yourself instead of letting a talk show host do it for you.

118 Can we all just admit that Christine O'Donnell has absolutely zero qualifications for the U.S. Senate?

She's got a decent rack.

119 Rob, how much money CHANGED HANDS in order for you to write that post?  Don't you know that you have just endorsed the END OF THE UNION as we know it?  Fucking RINO.

120

122

Bob--thanks for the optimism.  That is the attitude that I bring in my 2:1 Dem precinct when I try to recruit volunteers.

Our candidates suck, so we have to abandon our principles to have a shot.

Winning attitude.  Did you play football?

121 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 07, 2010 01:33 PM (5aa4z)

Have to disagree Herr. We had a majority in 2005 and I tracked the energy bill through the Senate that year because it had some important stuff in it for my industry.

I watched as the RINOs like McCain and his butt boy from my own State destroyed the bill by crossing over to side with the Dems. The same damn thing happened with the "Bush Taxcuts". The reason they were not made permanent to begin with were the fucking RINOs.

We blame Bush for a lot of RINO/liberal actions and it is true that he is guilty of some of them. But, the overall blame goes to the RINOs who stabbed him in the back time after time. They gave up the "majority" by siding with the Dems. BHush couldn't even get enough of the fucking RINOs on board to get a vote on repealing that damn alternative minimum tax. The one that the 1994 majority voted to repeal and Clinton vetoed.

We had a chance during the 6 years Bush had a so-called majority and blew it. The fact is when you abandon principle you tarnish your brand name and the voters remember it.

122 "Don't you know that you have just endorsed the END OF THE UNION as we know it?" Hate it when that happens.

123

That is the argument boiled down to its essence.  It quite simply amazes me that so many people have so much invested in a candidate, O'Donnell, who is a complete and total fucking joke.  Why would you want a Democrat to win?  It is fucking mind-boggling.  People are now actually arguing that they would rather have Coons win than Castle. 

Posted by: Bob

Observation: I am a Republican living in this little slice of heaven. I hread that O'donnell is claiming that here und raising intake has puicked up. She may be trying to portray herself as an underdog. And, to a Republican, her positions are more palatable than Castles' by far. You've heard me repeatedly agreeing that Castle is the logical choice here.

 

And yet.

After hearing the barrage of guff from the blogs and national pundits, and seeing the attack ads, I found myself growing resentful. And frankly I was very surprised to find myself reacting that way. I am still going to vote for Castle. But I say this to note that the national attention may be backfiring.

124 If being a TRUE conservative like Albus and Scoob also means having been one of Charles Johnson's lickspittle liztards, then put me down for RINO. Castle doesn't even have to vote, dumbasses! His utility lies solely in securing committee chairmanships. Fuck, you people are dense. Must've been all that semen CJ pumped up your ass - it's clogging up your brains.

125

132

Coburn said something stupid.

Castle has voted against our interests.

Actions speak louder than words.

126

"Dude you really need to lay off the pot.  Making you way too paranoid."

 

Actually I think he is going to claim that people from the Castle campaign are following him home, breaking his windows and hiding in his bushes. 

127

134

Can't you  insult better than that?  I went to public schools and heard worst in second grade!!

128 #132, I think the sin is that he is an AGW true believer.  Yes, he's generally squishy but if he's given Republican meals, he'll eat them.  I.e., if presented with real ObamaCare repeal, he'll take it.  If presented with some mushy change in it, he'll take that too.  Better than the Dem and the more R's are in the Senate (2012 will be a good year, too, if you look at who's running) the more conservative Castle will be.

But AGW is something he won't give up on.  That's the problem.

I asked the question on the other thread: What are the chances that if the Senate is 50/50 then Ben Nelson (Don't you love me anymore?-NE) tries to switch parties?

129

It would be nice if the people constantly fucking complaining about RINOs, particularly those from liberal states, would acknowledge once, just FUCKING ONCE, that the Jim DeMints of this country CAN'T GET FUCKING ELECTED IN LIBERAL BLUE STATES. 

130

139

They said the same thing to Washington, you have to win first . . .

131 Jesus, would you quit with the George Washington analogies.  Do you really think a Senate primary candidate has the potential to be that important to history, win or lose?  And before you ask, yes, money has changed hands.  That's why I wrote this. 

132

She's got a decent rack.

 

is that confirmed?

133 Have to disagree Herr. We had a majority in 2005 and I tracked the energy bill through the Senate that year because it had some important stuff in it for my industry.

Sitting on your ass drinking Jim Beam is an industry? 
_{I keed..... because I'm jealous....}

No, I know what you're saying, Vic.  A big difference though.  First, we were complacent because we had the White House.  Our bad.  We didn't breathe down these fuckers' necks like we will for the next two years, except when amnesty came up.  And we got results when we showed them the torches and pitchforks. 

In this instance, I think we have to go with Castle, just to get the majority.  Doesn't it feel good to be arguing about how to get the majority?

134 143--Touchy, touchy.  Settle down girls.

135 Settle down.  That's what they said to George Washington too. Thank God he didn't take your advice.

136 Comparing Christine O'Donnell and her perceived importance to this country to George Washington is like comparing Justin Bieber to John Lennon.

137

She's got a decent rack.

 

is that confirmed?

Posted by: Rack searchers anonymous at September 07, 2010 01:50 PM (i4Lu9)

Well, I know I'd hit it.  I'd give her Ace's name, but I'd hit it. So if she shows up here looking for Myron Elwood Lipschitz Jr., you'll know I got lucky.

_{What?  You think his parents actually named him "Ace"?}

138 After hearing the barrage of guff from the blogs and national pundits, and seeing the attack ads, I found myself growing resentful. And frankly I was very surprised to find myself reacting that way. I am still going to vote for Castle. But I say this to note that the national attention may be backfiring...............I'm not in Deleware, but i feel the same way. I agree that Castle is the candidate to go with simply to get control of the Senate, but all the attacks on O'Donnell from pundits and blogs this past week told me a lot more about the pundits and blogs than O'Donnell.

139 You gents can lay off the insults anytime. It doesn't do yourselves or your arguments any favors.

Fact is, I'm not in Delaware, and know very little about these candidates.

Fact is, I don't really have a horse in the race. Sounds like it's between a RINO & an idiot.

I can appreciate that you seem really worked up about supporting the dedicated RINO to hopefully take a majority in the Senate.

I hope you can appreciate that I'm not interested in insults in lieu of discourse.

I am simply pointing out that a Majority in the Senate didn't do us a world of good with the last batch of big-spending squishy Republicans. Witness: Gang of 14; Social Security fail; failure to make the tax cuts permanent; etc. etc. etc...

What makes you think creating a majority with more big-spending squishes would be different this time?

Thus my point about possibly losing a future election between a solid fiscal conservative and a Dem who is given critical assistance in a vote-swap or three with Castle.

Hypothetical? Like that's never happened before?

I'm just trying to give food for thought. Principles do matter, when the votes are being massaged on the floor.

Feel free to call me a cynic though. I am that in spades.

140

She's got a decent rack.

 

is that confirmed?

Posted by: Rack searchers anonymous at September 07, 2010 01:50 PM (i4Lu9)

 

I have met her, several times. This is indeed confirmed.

141

>> Dave in Texas and Nam Grunt: You guys getting it, too?

 

yep. 2.5 inches so far

142 Comparing Christine O'Donnell and her perceived importance to this country to George Washington is like comparing  Ginger to Maryann.

143

yep. 2.5 inches so far

Posted by: Dave in Texas at September 07, 2010 01:56 PM (WvXvd)

[Insert joke here]

144 #125

Look, even I concede that Castle is the likely winner here.

But don't ask me to be fucking happy about that, or to learn to like it, or to please myself that he is not so bad.

Not so bad? How fucking lame is that?

It's truly weak shit, reading these depressing echoes of "don't criticize the liberal so much." It's LGF-caliber weak, at least in this instance.

Fucking depressing, that's what it is.

It's wimp-ass Republicans like Castle creating a no-backbone razor-thin "majority" that will make this whipsawing, desperate electorate turn back to Democrats in '12, sure as I am sitting here. You think it won't happen, just watch.

R's need to get some steel in their spine real fast to apply emergency brakes to this runaway train, or the Democrats will angrily strike right back and get their long-term majority that they were touting for themselves after the '08 elections were done.

145

148, 149, 154

The Washington analogy is hyperbole to emphasize a point.  I am dealing with a bunch of morons (Moron Meetup), am I not?

146 R's need to get some steel in their spine real fast to apply emergency brakes to this runaway train

Metaphors!
Hoodwinked!
Run Amok!

147 It would be nice if the people constantly fucking complaining about RINOs, particularly those from liberal states, would acknowledge once, just FUCKING ONCE, that the Jim DeMints of this country CAN'T GET FUCKING ELECTED IN LIBERAL BLUE STATES.

Yeah, that's always been the problem in blue states like MA.  We run hardcore conservatives and they get trounced at the polls.

Oh wait, that isn't what happens at all.  We run squishes who are barely distinguishable from Democrats and then they still get trounced at the polls.  The ones that win just blend in with the Dems and pull all the same crooked stuff.

Maybe we should switch things up and try putting some conservative candidates out there?  Naah, what we're doing is working so well, we should just keep on doing it.

Scott Brown is a squish, but here's a shocker:  he's the most conservative candidate we've had in MA in a long time.

148

Delaware is a weird little state.   Up north in Wilmington it's uber-liberal, metropolitan, and upscale.  In parts of southern Delaware you'd think you were in Mississippi, with the sharecroppers

It's even weirder, because a lot of the more Republican types who work in Wilmington live over in Pennsylvania.

There's also a sizeable urban underclass in Wilmington that isn't aware of any party other than Democrat.

149 Well, "hyperbole to emphasize a point" is kind of the definition of false analogy, isn't it?  And false analogy is kind of the definition, at least one of them, of dishonest debate--not to mention oblique references to bribery and collusion.  A white-haired guy--red under the wig--crossing the Delaware in his car is also like George Washington, if we are allowed "hyperbole to emphasize a point." 

150 165-Yeah, it is a conspiracy . . .

151 "Castle may want to kill us on that issue but he simply won't have the chance to do it for the foreseeable future."

I want a bloodbath!!  Unless he's insane, ala Grayson, he's going to do what the caucus tells him to do. Beats having a Dem win.

152 After hearing the barrage of guff from the blogs and national pundits, and seeing the attack ads, I found myself growing resentful. And frankly I was very surprised to find myself reacting that way. I am still going to vote for Castle. But I say this to note that the national attention may be backfiring...............I'm not in Deleware, but i feel the same way. I agree that Castle is the candidate to go with simply to get control of the Senate, but all the attacks on O'Donnell from pundits and blogs this past week told me a lot more about the pundits and blogs than O'Donnell.

Posted by: martha stewarts left nipple

 

I'm not going so far as to judge the pundits. I'm just startled to find that when I look at that ad, I find myself growing resentful, not cheering on Castle. And that is our problem. We need Delaware Republicans agreeing that Castle is the electable one and that Delaware can play a pivotal role in this election.

 

Instead, if my reaction is any guide, the exact opposite reaction is being invoked. The fact that this is a small state, and many people have actually met the officeholders and candidates here may be part of it.

153 Delaware.
Advantages:  No sales tax.  Cheap booze. 
Disadvantages: Slow Joe, Tom Capano

154 Fuck you guys then. So Mike Castle is your golden man, he's just the ticket to Republican supremacy, long-term Republican chairmanships as far as the eye can see, Washington will be so much better with him as senator, we're pretty sure he won't join with Grahamnesty and drop cap-and-trade on our heads, so then go right ahead and send him your hard-earned Benjamins.  Put your money where your mouth is. Stop worrying and learn to love him. Pardon me while I puke.

155 Delaware.
Advantages:  No sales tax.  Cheap booze (cheaper than PA maybe. But ours is more expensive than MD).  We heave pumpkins for fun.
Disadvantages: Slow Joe, Tom Capano, Beau Biden.

Posted by: Ombudsman

 

Added a couple for you.

156

Would you rather have one single Democrat seat stay Democrat...or have Mike Castle as Majority Leader?  Because that is what you will basically have if he wins.  He'll have blackmail power over the GOP leadership, which is looking for an excuse to go left anyway.

Also, Stephen Bainbridge says Christine O'Donnell shouldn't be elected because she's one of the 75% of Americans who oppose gun control.  (Castle, for those of you who didn't know, is an anti-gun leader).  Castle really should tell his supporters to shut up, since they're hurting his own cause, but he won't.

Another thing:  in 2014, would you rather have a Senate with Chambliss (R-GA), Parnell (R-AK), Pawlenty (R-MN), and Coons (D-DE)? Or one with Barnes (D-GA), Begich (D-AK), Al Franken (D-MN) and Castle (CIABLO-DE)?  Make no mistake about it, that is how it will shake out; if Castle is a Senator, the NRSC will drain funds from conservative or even moderate candidates to make sure the CIABLO stays in.  It happened with Jeffords in 2000--ask Rod Grams, conservative Republican from MN about that--and it happened in 2006, when Elizabeth Dole's NRSC actually registered Democrats to vote for Lincoln Chafee in the primary. 

Finally:  do you really think that Stephen Bainbridge and the others who support Castle--allegedly because it is so fucking important to keep Coons out--will support O'Donnell over Coons if she wins?  Since it's clear they prefer Coons to O'Donnell, it isn't really that over the top for me to say that I prefer Coons over Castle.

157

169 - Is Tom Capano the one who murdered his mistress then dumped her body in the ocean? Because when I first clicked on O'Donnell's pic I had a flashback to the murdered mistress.

Another DE disadvantage: from time to time the PA state police lurk outside DE liquor stores waiting to bust PA liquor buyers. One lady got a $400 ticket for buying a bottle of wine. One (1) bottle of vino.

 

158

Is Tom Capano the one who murdered his mistress then dumped her body in the ocean? Because when I first clicked on O'Donnell's pic I had a flashback to the murdered mistress

 

Yup, that's the vermin. She was Tom Carper's secretary at the time. And there was supposedly a very difficult time discerning what, or whom T.C. stood for in her diary. Not pretty.

 

I doubt that Castle would switch parties. I also doubt that his rating will ever again break 50%. There is a good chance that he won't run again in four years.

159 A Democrat victory in Delaware is not the end of the world.  The Senate isn't the House, where having a one-vote majority is a huge deal.  A one-vote majority means very little, and individual Senators have much more power than individual Congressmen.  I'd rather have a far-left nobody like Coons in than a powerful CIABLO like Castle.  Of course, O'Donnell would be better than either.  Not only isn't she a CIABLO, but she also doesn't get her staff to follow young women around and implicitly threaten them with rape and murder--as either Castle or Coons is doing to her.

160 Albus,

What site are you reading, cause it's not this one.

No one here is happy about Castle. No one loves him and no one is saying don't criticism him.

Some folks, myself included, are making a cold, hard, calculated choice. It's not done with any enthusiasm.

BTW-what proof exactly is there that O'Donnell is so great that supporting her is suddenly the dividing line between heretic and true believer? We can all agree she's flawed at best, right?

161 she also doesn't get her staff to follow young women around and implicitly threaten them with rape and murder--as either Castle or Coons is doing to her.

Do you have a newsletter by any chance?

162 A GOP House and the right Senate committee chairs can make very certain that no carbon regulation ever gets near Obama's desk, no matter what Graham and Castle etc want. 

Further, I'd like to think that one of the first GOP targets after November would be the EPA's CO2-endangerment finding.

If you toss Castle in the primary you toss the seat to the Democrats.  Simple as that.  Maybe that's worth doing on principle, maybe it's not.

I wish there were a more viable contender here, but at this point O'Donnell has to go in the Alexi Giannoulias/Alvin Greene 'what are they doing here?' bucket. 

Of course the other two are Democrats, and they're also their party's nominees...

163 BTW-what proof exactly is there that O'Donnell is so great that supporting her is suddenly the dividing line between heretic and true believer? We can all agree she's flawed at best, right?

Posted by: DrewM

 

I'd agree. And she should kill that noise about a third party run. She may be doing that to be a pain, or she may be doing this being mindful of the stupidity of the local Republican party. Whatever the cause, the result is the same; she should rule it out.

164

176 Buzzion

Support conservatives in the primary, republicans in the general.

Support Castle in the general and drop O'Donnell if she goes third party.

Point is, we are not past the primary yet.  I do not concede "she can't win".  Even if she lost, at least she would educate the voters regarding conservatism and set the table for the next candidate.

And if we run from our principles in the primary, what message does this send?  We lack confidence in them?  How persuasive is that?

And didn't Reagan take Massachusetts in 1984?

165

178:  No, I'm just working off the assumption that a young woman who is deeply religious and has devoted her life to helping the unborn is probably not lying.  I realize that Castle is innocent until proven guilty--but doesn't it bother you at least a little bit that no one is even considering the possibility that she may be telling the truth?

Ah, whom am I asking?  Of course it doesn't bother you; after all, she's just a teabagging bitch who deserves what she gets.  Go back to your Hustler rape pictorial.

166 182--The question is not how much but how.  And you would like to know . . .

167 good for you scoob.  Now, how much is O'Donnell paying you to be her pimp?

Posted by: buzzion

If you think that comments like this are going to motivate Republicans here to leave her behind and get behind Castle, think again.

Her candidacy is 'troubled', has a clear ten point deficit, and if she is the candidate, this would be an ideal seat for Dems to include in their firewall. And you can count on VP Biteme providing campaign assistance, all on our dime.

We can and should communicate this. Announcing that she is a whore is counterproductive.

168 I'm a registered R from DE and if O'Donnell was a more credible candidate who had any shot at winning the general election, I would support her. But she isn't and she doesn't. I'm not happy with a RINO either, but better that than the liberal alternative. Northern DE, where the votes are concentrated, might as well be the People's Republic of Santa Monica-or-pick any liberal haven you choose. Most Democrats I know from here (and trust me, there are a lot more of them than R's) do not even consider Joe Biden to be a particularly liberal Democrat as that goes. Many R's are moderates or squishes (or whatever you want to call them) who likely are part of the wondeful 52% who voted for Obama. So those are the cards we are dealt here. Grim reality. 

169 176:  Congratulate her for not letting Castle's paid rapists intimidate her.  Generally you have a moral duty to support the winner of the primary if you run or vote in it, but not if he's trying to rape you.

170 I'm a registered R from DE

Posted by: RM at September 07, 2010 02:37 PM

 

Holy crap. We've got a bunch of Delaware morons. We have to do a meet up.

171 Posted by: Ken at September 07, 2010 02:34 PM (ftfkn)

The problem with O'Donnell's stalking/harassment allegations is she says it goes back to '08.

Why in the world would Castle have been giving her trouble 2 years ago when she was running against Biden in 08 and Castle was running for his House seat?

172 Blue Hen can correct me if I'm wrong, but in my five years living in Delaware (and maybe before then, if I check with my wife who's a lifelong resident), I've never seen a fully conservative candidate get elected to statewide office (I'm not sure if Pete duPont or Roth count).  State House or Senate, maybe but never Gov, Lt. Gov, US House, or US Senate.  The last two conservatives (and that's arguable, though they did talk the talk), Bill Lee for Governor and Charlie Copeland for Lt. Governor, got their asses handed to them in '08, and Lee before that for Governor in '04 against Ruth Ann Minner. 

On top of that, the previously magenta-ish Kent and Sussex Counties have been getting increasingly bluer due to the large influx of New Jersey and Philly-area Pennsylvania residents moving to the state and bringing their voting habits with them.  Delaware has been going steadily from blue-ish purple to navy blue for years.  I've noticed the change in Kent County over the past five years, and it seems like things have been getting increasingly more liberal in Kent County (where I currently live).  I'd like for Colin Bonini, my state senator and, as far as I can tell, one of the few fiscal hawks in the state legislature, to win Treasurer (the only state-wide seat up for election this year), but I doubt he'll win thanks to liberal New Castle County and the influx of Democratic voters into the southern two counties.

In short, if O'Donnell wins the primary, there's no chance in Hell she'll win.  I like her positions, but the image that she's teh krazee, true or not, will be crippling for her in the general, and as far as I've seen, aside from Reagan in '84, Delaware only goes for squish Republicans, not actual conservatives.  Regardless of who I vote for in the primary and regardless of who wins (and I'm still not sure), I'll still probably feel like eating a bullet afterwards.

Also, (and Blue Hen can correct me on this, too) what's up with the very conservative candidates in Delaware (I'm thinking of O'Donnell and Mike Protack) thinking they can bypass getting elected on the local level and automatically going for Governor or Senate?  What's wrong with building a reputation and credibility with the (frankly head-trauma-stupid) state level Republican Party?  I may have answered my own question, but not in a way that I like.

(It's bullshit like this that makes me want to move someplace like South Carolina, and with things like the Nikki Haley/Will Folks episode, that's saying something, though I'm not sure what.)

173 Posted by: Ken at September 07, 2010 02:34 PM (ftfkn)

The problem with O'Donnell's stalking/harassment allegations is she says it goes back to '08.

Why in the world would Castle have been giving her trouble 2 years ago when she was running against Biden in 08 and Castle was running for his House seat?

Posted by: DrewM

 

I gotta admit that these allegations are new to me. If true, it is likely that it's the work of some stalker that fixates on a celebrity. Politics here can get ugly and stupid, but I'm not aware of stuff at this level.

174 Waitaminnit.  My issues with her have been that I don't think she can win, and she has some real tools working for her.  However, if she's talking third party, she needs to be thoroughly thrashed in the primary.  Did that actually happen, or is it as phantasmagorical as Ken's comment at 183?

175 Yes, amazingly, there do seem to be a few DE morons here.

176 Amish - that is a very good question. That is a possibility. There is also the chance that a Joe Liebermann may switch. He has not ruled out the possibility of running in 2012 as a Republican. And Liebermann has a strong dislike for the nutroots wing of the Democratic party.

Lieberman will not run as a Republican except as a ballot line since, as an Indy, he doesn't really have one and the Dems may try to get a better candidate in to challenge him.  But the nutroots don't hate him as much as they did (especially with a tight Senate) and he'll get on the D line if he can.

I think Ben Nelson is delusional.  He really had no idea how his ObamaCare vote would go over in Nebraska.  He thought his changepurse of pork would get him enough good will.

I really think if he has the opportunity to be the "hero" he'll take it.

177

 No, I'm just working off the assumption that a young woman who is deeply religious and has devoted her life to helping the unborn is probably not lying.

She may not be lying, however the imagination may be a little "active."

Isn't anyone troubled by her financial disclosure where she only claims $5800.00 earned income per annum? How does she support herself on that amount? When pressed, she said she makes more but doesn't have to reveal that information. Which conservative principle is it that allows candidates to hide income from taxpayers who will be paying their salary? Also, I was under the impression that conservatives like to hire legislators who have some solid real life experience under their belt. You know, running a business, or working somewhere for an extended period of time. Being a military guy/gal, or a professional sports figure a la Steve Largent or Jim Bunning. All her resume shows is that she's a professional candidate.

178 No, I'm just working off the assumption that a young woman who is deeply religious and has devoted her life to helping the unborn is probably not lying.

After you kiss my ass, Ken, perhaps you could considered the possibility that she isn't lying so much as she is simply delusional.

179 Yes, amazingly, there do seem to be a few DE morons here.

Yes, a meet-up is necessary, at least so that there's proof all 3-6 of us exist.

180 I'm pretty sure Delaware has a sore loser law, so I don't think the 3rd party thing is a real threat.

181 I have the perfect solution. When the Republicans take both houses of congress this fall and after they zero out the budget for the EPA, DOJ, the UN and DOS, and the DOE they can pass a bill that combines the two current States of Delaware and Rhode Island.

While they are at they can also combine the States of Vermont and Hew Hampshire. To keep the overall number of States the same we can split those two mega large States of Alaska and Texas.

The we can hold new special elections for the House and the Senate in all of those "new" States.

182

189

I didn't insinuate.  I stated that one or more of the blogs-HotAir, RedState, or Ace, might have been paid (and the others followed) because they all at the same time came out with different rationales for trashing O'Donnell.  It appeared that the Castle operation team released different dirty laundry to the various blogs, who unloaded on O'Donnell.

It was extremely puzzling due to the support of all the blogs of Bennett in Utah and Miller in AK.  It was like-what is up with this?

Ace has a great cite and let's everyone fill it with absurdities and paranoid thoughts.  Since you left my posts, obviously it appears no one was paid here (although my opinion means beans-now and before).

But I wanted to put it out there.  It could happen.  If I am truly over the line, it is his site and he can ban me.

183 I'm pretty sure Delaware has a sore loser law, so I don't think the 3rd party thing is a real threat.

Not so sure about that.  Mike Protack ran for Governor in '08 as an independent after losing the Republican primary against Bill Lee.

184 To keep the overall number of States the same we can split those two mega large States of Alaska and Texas.

Split California North and South.

185 Damn that Christine O'Donnell for not being a war hero or a professional athlete!!!  Especially in an age of easy sex changes.

186 I have the perfect solution. When the Republicans take both houses of congress this fall and after they zero out the budget for the EPA, DOJ, the UN and DOS, and the DOE they can pass a bill that combines the two current States of Delaware and Rhode Island.

While they are at they can also combine the States of Vermont and Hew Hampshire. To keep the overall number of States the same we can split those two mega large States of Alaska and Texas.

The we can hold new special elections for the House and the Senate in all of those "new" States.

Posted by: Vic

Sure. Right after we appoint Will Folkes and Alvin Green Governor and Lt Governor in S.C. For life.

 

Sacred honor demands no less.

187

197:  I asked for it, so fair's fair.  Fine.

However, if she is delusional, that could be determined by a police investigation and if necessary, in court.  The fact that Castle shows no interest in clearing himself of the charges indicates either that they are true, or else that he is so calloused that it doesn't bother him as long as it benefits him.

Personally, if I were running against O'Donnell and someone were threatening her, I would feel like a eunuch if I didn't help her find the culprit.  A man should not tolerate the abuse of a woman, even if she is his political opponent.

 

188

"Damn that Christine O'Donnell for not being a war hero or a professional athlete!!!  Especially in an age of easy sex changes."

That's nice, but you haven't addressed her reluctance to reveal the source of her income. If she is chosen in the primary, won't she have to make her federal tax returns public?

189

I seem to remember people going ape shit crazy when the Repubs went all in for a particular candidate in the AK primary, but it's okay when we find out they're doing the same thing in DE.    Personally, we need a Republican to win this primary, but the State GOP needs to quit trying to crucify a fellow Republican.    And DC Repubs need to stay the hell out, too.   But, that's not happening.    They are advising Castle to go dirty early & often.    They, along with the state GOP, are putting out all the negative info on O'Donnell, and I think it's disgusting.

If Castle can't win on his own bonafides, wtf good is he?    You want to know what's actually happening?   The more bloggers, state GOP, and DC GOP pull this dirty BS to trash a fellow Republican, the more you're pissing people off.   If anyone thinks that's going to get the outcomes you want, then you're effin stupid.    What you're doing is pushing people to stand up for O'Donnel, and pushing votes her way.

It's an effin primary.   It needs to play out with DE voters.   The Republican establishment needs to butt the hell out.   All they're proving is that their promises to stay out of primaries is not worth crap.   I guess their promises still don't mean shit.

190 All her resume shows is that she's a professional candidate.

Posted by: kallisto

 

It worked for VP Biteme.I don't believe that he ever practiced law here. And he won the Senate in 1972. He was in the New Castle County Council for about one year prior to that. It can happen here.

191 hell, Blue, it worked for Precedent Toonces as well.

192 Looks like her only option, should she lose the primary, is a write-in candidacy.

She'd never win that and probably wouldn't hurt Castle all that much.

193 BTW-what proof exactly is there that O'Donnell is so great that supporting her is suddenly the dividing line between heretic and true believer?

Posted by: DrewM. at September 07, 2010 02:25 PM (ycZcD)

There is nothing to support O'Donnell being "great."  There isn't even anything to support her being good.  At this point all the evidence points to her being incompetent and a bit of a flake.  But she's the most conservative candidate in the primary so we're supposed to want her to be one of our leaders?

She's dumb, she's shady, and she can't win.  But other than that, she deserves our full support.

194 Split California North and South.

Posted by: toby928 at September 07, 2010 02:52 PM (evdj2)

That would not help at all. Perhaps if we split the State along the lines of Interstate 5. West of the interstate would be one State, East would be another. But the best that would get us is a draw.

195 @little miss spellcheck EEK! Someone missspelllded EKE

196 207

197:  I asked for it, so fair's fair.  Fine.

However, if she is delusional, that could be determined by a police investigation and if necessary, in court.  The fact that Castle shows no interest in clearing himself of the charges indicates either that they are true, or else that he is so calloused that it doesn't bother him as long as it benefits him.

Personally, if I were running against O'Donnell and someone were threatening her, I would feel like a eunuch if I didn't help her find the culprit.  A man should not tolerate the abuse of a woman, even if she is his political opponent.

 Posted by: Ken

I am very glad to say that this isn't how our legal system works. if she has evidence, especially as to the source of the harrassment, then she should present it. Castle should not have to prove that he did not do it.

The fact that she hasn't reported anything indicates that either this is a fabrication, or she's seeing weird, intermittant things that won't add up to anything, or at worse make her look bad. Also note that protection from abuse orders in this state are belatedly given, acted upon, and the people and those around them often wind up dead(ex: Shooting near Red Lion, DE several years ago).

197 Castle's seat may be a Bridge Too Far Rasmussen's results worry me. But so does missing a chance to knock off someone stupid enough to support Crap and Tax. Decisions, decisions.

198 Congratulate her for not letting Castle's paid rapists intimidate her.

Wow, Ken, you are absolutely delusional.  Is your real name Evan, by any chance?

199

213--Shocking when bloggers actually start posting about what their readers are interested in.

I guess that I should read the comments more often instead of writing about them!!

It was just odd that all three blogs came out with hit pieces (on different subject matter/angles) at the same time.  It appeared some collusion was going on (which is different from money changing hands).

200 213--It was very Pythonesque.  O'Donnell-- she's a witch, she's a witch . . .

201

If Castle can't win on his own bonafides, wtf good is he?    You want to know what's actually happening?   The more bloggers, state GOP, and DC GOP pull this dirty BS to trash a fellow Republican, the more you're pissing people off.   If anyone thinks that's going to get the outcomes you want, then you're effin stupid.    What you're doing is pushing people to stand up for O'Donnel, and pushing votes her way.

Ex.  Freakin'.  Zactly.

A week ago, I was more inclined to settle for Castle.  It wasn't until I saw Professor Bainbridge's hate screed against O'Donnell (that included a sideswipe at gun owners, which really pissed me off) that I firmly decided for O'Donnell.  OK, I don't live in DE, but many GOP primary voters there have clearly seen the same things I have.

Can you say "Senator Coons"?  Because, thanks to the anti-O'Donnell hate, that seems increasingly likely, no matter who wins the primary.

202

O'Donnell doesn't seem like a serious candidate.

I'm all for the Tea Party candidates, but it appears she's a loon.

More to the point, an unelectable loon. 

Castle's a purple candidate in a blue state. We got Miller, Rand, and Angle.  Let's not overreach.

 

 

203 Looks like her only option, should she lose the primary, is a write-in candidacy.

She'd never win that and probably wouldn't hurt Castle all that much.

Posted by: DrewM

 

I beg to differ. Look again at all the reasons people are saying the we should vote for Castle. he leads Coons by 12 at present. If Dems put money and VP Biteme behind Coons,and O'Donnell strips away some Rs and Is, then this becomes a horserace instead of a lock. We are continually hearing how blue a state this is. A unified Dem party versus a R party at war with itself? WHich way would Castle run? To the right? Or to the left, in keeping with Delaware, but confirming all the complaints from the Rs.

 

That is, if she doesn't self-destruct. She has to know that daring to run against Castle makes this her last race as a Republican here. They destroyed Janet Reznicki for less. She could ruin things, or make them far tighter. But doind so would be wrong.

204 Congress voted to build the border fence, but failed to appropriate tax funds to get it done.

Similarly, if Congress fails to appropriate tax funds to provide the budgets necessary for the new ObamaCare bureaucracy, it wouldn't get started even should Obama remain in office the duration of his term.

Halt the taxes now that are set to go into immediate effect, years before service is set in action.

205 202 I'm pretty sure Delaware has a sore loser law, so I don't think the 3rd party thing is a real threat. Not so sure about that.  Mike Protack ran for Governor in '08 as an independent after losing the Republican primary against Bill Lee. Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at September 07, 2010 02:52 PM (tOCL6) Protack received an independent nomination in '08, but he did not campaign. Mike had a history of jumping in to run as an (R) without having done much to seek party support; this goes back for at least a decade. It apparently didn't go over well with those entrenched in the GOP here. Yes, I'm a Delaware moron.

206 Yes, I'm a Delaware moron.

Posted by: ya2daup

 

Our legions are growing. We should do a meetup at the punkin chunkin. What better activity for Morons?

207 Yes, I'm a Delaware moron.

Then jump in and give us something from your perspective. 

O'Donnell:  Hot Nut or Steely Conservative?

208 Is Mike Castle Slightly Less Horrible Than We Think?


Yes, that is the burning question of the day  for sure.
Isn't this a little like asking if it's better to get shot with a .38 or a .357?

Parsing Castle's voting record made sense when he looked like a lock. He doesn't any more. He's below 50% against Coons and he's a liberal and an incumbent running in a year that is going to be very bad for both. Coons can run as an outsider and to the right of Castle on some issues. At best Castle vs. Coons is a tossup at this point.

209 Only Connecticut, Iowa, New York and Vermont have no "sore loser" law.

210 Um Rocks, Drew just linked a Ras poll that has Casle up by 11 against Coons.  How do you get that he is below 50% against him?

Posted by: buzzion at September 07, 2010 03:28 PM (oVQFe)

Yes, Castle 48% - Coons 37%. 48 is below 50 the last time I checked. That is the second consecutive poll that has Castle below 50%. I wasn't suggesting Coons got 50% or was leading.

211 Posted by: 18-1 at September 07, 2010 12:42 PM (7BU4a)

You are forgetting Ben Nelson. Who will be voting R half the time no matter who is controlling Congress along with every other Dem in a vulnerable seat for 2012.

212 There are plenty of Liberals out there that are thankful for the Tea Party.  They feel that the Tea Party will force Republican nominees that are too far to the right for the general population and that will result in more Democrats winning.

They're certainly wrong in places like AK and UT.  They may be right in  NV.  They're certainly correct in DE.

If control of the Senate were impossible or a lock then I would support the conservative against the RINO.  But that's not the situation we're in.  If we have control of both houses we gain the ability to dictate the agenda.  Control of the Senate means that Obama no longer has a rubber-stamp in appointments.  All of this is far more important that ideological purity.

213 Rocks, you write "At best Castle vs. Coons is a tossup at this point." You also write (citing Rasmussen) "Castle 48% - Coons 37%." My spin-o-meter just broke.

214 We have 2 Cap and Betrayers (that I know of) running for Senate and far too many fuqsticks want to promote them instead of punish them. Christ on a stick, with friends like you, who needs democrats?

215 Rocks, you write "At best Castle vs. Coons is a tossup at this point." You also write (citing Rasmussen) "Castle 48% - Coons 37%."

My spin-o-meter just broke.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at September 07, 2010 04:23 PM (2nNP5)

You're right. I should not have said at this point. On election day I think it will be a toss-up. Whoever wins this seat will do it by less than 5% of the vote. IMHO.

216 Levin, Levin, Levin

217 Mike Castle just became the first and only Republican to back Obama's "fix" for the Citizen's United ruling.
Boy he sure loves originalist justices don't he?

218 Heard Christine O'Donnell on Hannity today.  I was in the car.  Honestly, the woman doesn't sound nuts to me not one bit, she made a lot of sense, a lot of sense.  And then Levin came on and pointed out that Castle is the most liberal republican member of Congress.  Levin also mentioned "certain conservative bloggers".....Anyway, the Senate is 6 years, 6 long long painstaking years, if spent with the wrong candidate.  It's ironic that the republican party establishment is behaving like democrats, perhaps worse since you don't expect it from them.

In Nassau county New York one of my friends, a registered republican, voted for Tom Suozzi because 1.  he knew him from HS  2,  He was a decent mayor of his little long island town   3.  He had renovated the country seat and taken back the deserted buildings and gotten rid of expensive leases to rent county office space 4.  My friend was tired of voting republican and always having the losing candidate....  My friend knew that suozzi planned to raise property taxes, implement an energy tax, the first ever and install cameras at almost every intersection.  My friend, still voted for him knowing all of this and because his opponent Mangano had very little mailing and few commercials and he really knew very little about the republican.  So, despite the fact that he was registered as a republican, he voted for the dem.

The republican won by a very teeny tiny margin and my friend was guilty and sorry for his vote. 

The moral of the story is that you should vote for the person you believe will best serve your and your neighbors' interests and will serve the people and not worry about serving themselves, ignoring the people and getting rich themselves. 

Suozzi was last seen in church, his body language definitely asking "is my political career over?   (after all, before this loss they were talking about him for governor)

This is all second hand from my friend but he has told me the story three times cause it bothers him that much.

This may be a time in our country's history where it is more important to vote what your gut is telling you and not over analyze.

219

Getting the repub majority to stop the nutjob in the WH is more important.

There are fed. judges at stakes.

And this woman is no Karen Handel or Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin. I heard her on Hannity's show today, she is a light weight who will be defeated by huge margins.

Get the most conservative repub that can be elected. And that would be Mike Castle.

220 If you look at mike's voting record, any liberal democrat would be proud of it....

If the republicans keep voting for people who don't' really represent republican interests, before you know it, they will end up with a very powerful RINO Senate.

The line has to be drawn somewhere....at mike

221 My spouse, an unreconstructed dem,has,with some subtle pushing from me,decided he'll vote for Castle. And for basically similar reasons you guys object--he's a moderate, not scary! Here's how I run it. He's irrevocably pro-choice and anti-gun. His votes won't matter on those. He's a longtime environmentalist;cap&tax is a true believer vote. But AGW is kind of losing steam;we have to educate him, get him to question the CO2=pollutant theory.
I'll say this for him:when I call his staff, he gets back to me,and actually addresses my issue.

222

246-Educated him like Grahamesty, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Spector, Jeffords, and Chafee.

That is how to teach him lesson for his House votes-promote him to the Senate.

Now conservative blogs = RINO FEE-VAH!!

223 "247

246-Educated him like Grahamesty, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Spector, Jeffords, and Chafee.

That is how to teach him lesson for his House votes-promote him to the Senate.

Now conservative blogs = RINO FEE-VAH!!

Posted by: Scoob at September 07, 2010 09:01 PM (T7+JL)"

There were intimations made on several talk radio programs today that perhaps the republican establishment had sweetened the deal with some of the conservative blogs to make the conservative bloggers come over to their side of the ol fence.   Now, of course we know they weren't talking about this blog at all but I bet you guys who read all the conservative blogs would know which ones were being mentioned. (but not by name of course, and just as regards this particular republican race in delaware)

224

248

Hey, I mentioned possible financial incentives last week on this blog commentary sections--although (disclaimer) I HAVE NO PROOF AND IT IS MERE CONJECTURE AND PARANOID OUTBURSTS.

Talk radio is ripping me off.  I must be a HERO.

225

I wonder if Castle gets elected, and starts screwing us over- we will look back at the blogs by Ace, Drew, Gabriel, Erikson, and Allahpundit the same way we look at Newt and Nancy on the coach advocating for action to prevent  man-made global warming.

RINO FEE-VAH!!

226 I was just thinking about the fact that we heard the same scenario about lisa murkowski until Miller and Palin totally cleaned her clock.

227

Down with Castle! We must stop Obama's socialist agenda by letting the Dems destory our economy and security for another few years! Sure the country could be irreparably damaged, but that's actually a good thing, because everyone will know it was their fault!

Besides, we're all big-picture people here, right? Who cares about jobs and shit while we still have real problems to deal with, like the Department of Education?

228 Posted by: True Conservative Hero at September 08, 2010 12:48 AM (DsHk0)

If voters fill up the Senate with republicans that look like lib/dem plants then eventually that will hurt the country too.

Americans have plenty of RINO's to point to....among them McShame and Lind say.  You don't need to encourage them anymore.  Let people use their brains, their hearts and their gut feelings and it might actually surprise you.

People are going to start vetting republicans by how conservative they are, watch and see.

229 I'm betting there won't be a Palin endorsement in this race.

230 This Castle is not for defense of liberty.  I hope the voters of Delaware overrun this wretch.  Now is the time.

231

Via Riehl on Castle:

"He is a forty year career politician who happens to call himself a Republican, as once did Charlie Crist, Arlen Specter and Jim Jeffords. Mr. Castle is a habitual tax raiser. He is unwaveringly pro abortion and he has earned an F- rating from The NRA. He voted for TARP, Porkulus, the auto and banking industry takeovers, Cash for Clunkers as well as Cap and Trade. Most recently, he co-sponsored the disclose act which is nothing more than an assault on the first amendment designed to muzzle his political opposition."

Morons is an over-the-top euphemism for your imbecility, Gabe, Drew and not least Ace.

232 Ace, you're nothing but a paid for Rino shill.

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