February 04, 2010
— Ace Lotta reason to suspect he might be.
So I'm calling him the whistleblower and not the hacker, for obvious reasons. They are going to come at him with everything in their arsenal.
[Paul] Dennis refused to sign a petition in support of Jones when the scandal broke. He told friends he was one of several staff unwilling to put their names to the Met Office-inspired statement in support of the global warming camp, because “science isn’t done by consensus”.University sources say the head of department, Professor Jacquie Burgess, received a letter from Dennis at the height of the email uproar, calling for more open release of data. He appears to have disapproved of the way Jones resisted FoI requests.
Update [PA]
Forget about global warming people. The latest craze just appeared, and we all need to get onboard ahead of the curve. Apparently we're all going to starve to death before we're killed/drowned by global warming. THE WORLD IS RUNNING OUT OF DIRT!
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Posted by: Jester Balowski's Medieval Torture Houre at February 04, 2010 04:03 PM (4LT+Q)
Posted by: Ronster at February 04, 2010 04:04 PM (Xu6d3)
Posted by: lan sing at February 04, 2010 04:07 PM (cEOZd)
Posted by: Al Gore at February 04, 2010 04:09 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at February 04, 2010 04:09 PM (catJU)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 04:10 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Paul Dennis at February 04, 2010 04:11 PM (iBzKc)
Steevy,
The tide has turned. I think this guy will be just fine, 'tis Al's turn to answer for the lies.
Posted by: Naan at February 04, 2010 04:11 PM (j5MTj)
Posted by: loppyd at February 04, 2010 04:14 PM (pGELo)
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/02/0082826
That's their cover story this issue.
Posted by: stace at February 04, 2010 04:14 PM (g/wgk)
Posted by: Biff Byford at February 04, 2010 04:15 PM (iBzKc)
Posted by: eddiebear at February 04, 2010 04:18 PM (G6NuC)
I just love how this keeps staying in the news. It's like a continuous rolling thunder.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 04:19 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 04, 2010 04:21 PM (OkT2m)
Now we have to de-bunk this whole clean-energy economy scam that Obama keeps talking about.
Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 08:18 PM (AlREO)
Agreed. Like the story yesterday of the wind turbines that won't operate when it gets too cold. Oops!
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 04:21 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: ParisParamus at February 04, 2010 04:22 PM (GgR+e)
If climate models can predict past climate without begging the question and/or making shit up about what the climate actually was, then it's a climate science. Otherwise it's just wrong.
If they're arguing by consensus, then they're in an Argument From Authority fallacy, and it's Not Even Wrong. That's not science at all.
Religious doctrine is done by consensus. Maybe Phil Jones would do better as a seminarian.
Posted by: Zimriel at February 04, 2010 04:27 PM (sVzRC)
Its not hard to get business to adopt green tech when it can be demonstrated to them that its going to save money. When the only thing selling it is a warm feeling and higher costs, its a much harder sell. Warm feelings you can get by wearing a black suit and pissing your pants.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 04:28 PM (4Mmyd)
Posted by: Bart Simpson at February 04, 2010 04:28 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 08:02 PM (a9UO0)
That article was incredible. India is just slamming the Global Warming Crowd.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 04:29 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: sonnyspats at February 04, 2010 04:33 PM (68tQb)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 04, 2010 04:34 PM (OkT2m)
And he can release it one file at a time.
Posted by: Jack at February 04, 2010 04:35 PM (bvDV5)
oh, well I was wondering if any outside organization did their own independent recount of Franken/Coleman.
Posted by: This is Randolph Mantooth at February 04, 2010 04:36 PM (v77ig)
Posted by: sonnyspats at February 04, 2010 04:37 PM (68tQb)
Posted by: nickless at February 04, 2010 08:22 PM (MMC8r)
Ok, now I really hate him.
Posted by: Richard Dawkins at February 04, 2010 04:42 PM (bgcml)
Awesome. I feel like going out and kicking a liberal in the nuts, but I always want to do that.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 04:43 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: nickless at February 04, 2010 08:22 PM (MMC8r)
Uh, but this guy isn't black.
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 04, 2010 04:43 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 08:43 PM (8NGHm)
Up for some Roshambo?
Posted by: Michelle Obama at February 04, 2010 04:44 PM (bgcml)
Endangered dirt, that's a new one.
/Ripped from what movie?
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 04:45 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: mystry at February 04, 2010 04:46 PM (kmgIE)
Miss Radish, do you lives in MN?
Are you another soul craving consumption by some female? Anyway, as a radish, she's hogging all the dirt!
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 04:46 PM (otlXg)
Aye, Avenger, burn the witch--but don't forget to read the entrails first. They're a lot better at predicting disasters than the Met office or NASA or NOAA for that matter.
Thanks, Ace.
Posted by: cbullitt at February 04, 2010 04:46 PM (0BEkJ)
John Crawford, professor of Sustainable Agriculture at the University of Sydney, who presented the study, said it was unknown how long soil will last.
“It could be as little as 60 yearsIt's unknown, but somehow it could be 60 years? And what could it be as long as, you bleating sack of crap?
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 04, 2010 04:46 PM (kr8ET)
http://tinyurl.com/ybp6shp
Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 08:40 PM (bgcml)
That was awesome!
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 04:47 PM (Vu6sl)
You know, even we couldn't come up with something this stupid.
Posted by: Those guys that wrote Epic Movie at February 04, 2010 04:47 PM (bgcml)
Well, they don't work in cold weather and when the wind's not blowing enough, they aren't moving, so I'm guess that these things aren't in service much. Hell, they're probably out of service more than they are in service.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 04:48 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2010 04:49 PM (QECjC)
The enviro-nuts have learned. If you make enviro-doomsday predictions, have the year everyone's supposed to die be later than the lifespan of the person making the claim.
Anyway, this 60 year thing is crap because soon, in the end, there will be only chaos.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 04:50 PM (otlXg)
http://tinyurl.com/ybp6shp
Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 08:40 PM (bgcml)
Love it! Of course, now it's bugging me what song it is they used and changed the lyrics to.
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 04:50 PM (gofDd)
/Ripped from what movie?
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 08:45 PM (otlXg)
Dude, let's get baked and then like, figure out how to save the earth!
Posted by: Some Influenced Academic at February 04, 2010 04:51 PM (bgcml)
Those guys that wrote Epic Movie at February 04, 2010 08:47 PM (bgcml)
Maybe we could.
Posted by: Producers of Battlefield Earth. at February 04, 2010 04:51 PM (otlXg)
Heh. In that article, we find the culprit, fertilizer. You see fertilizer is bad for dirt. The greenies have found their next bad boy. All that food production is just causing people to eat, and then they make more people, and this is bad for the planet, because the people ruin the earth and the earth was made for um..errr....not people.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 04:52 PM (DIYmd)
It's all being stored in Washington DC in DIRTBAGS.
Posted by: GrumpyUnk at February 04, 2010 04:53 PM (d7zzZ)
A lot of these problems are just typical 1st generation engineering issues. I'd probably go with something like a Aramid belt or fluid torque converter system that eliminates the shocks typically associated with geared designs.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 04:54 PM (4Mmyd)
Posted by: CoolCzech at February 04, 2010 08:49 PM (QECjC)
Don't insult us Pagans by lumping us in with them.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 04:54 PM (8NGHm)
Remember when the farmers of Europe developed new farming technology and learned to rotate crops, leaving a field fallow so it could renew its nutrients? And they also developed new tools and better plows? Wasn't that during the Dark Ages? You know, when the Church still only spoke in Latin and illiteracy in general was pretty high? Yeah, they were smarter back then than they are now.
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 04:55 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Peaches at February 04, 2010 04:55 PM (9Wv2j)
Rum, here it is: http://tinyurl.com/3c6g2n
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 04:55 PM (8NGHm)
Heh. In that article, we find the culprit, fertilizer. You see fertilizer is bad for dirt. The greenies have found their next bad boy. All that food production is just causing people to eat, and then they make more people, and this is bad for the planet, because the people ruin the earth and the earth was made for um..errr....not people.
Fertilizer has always been bad to the greenies. It's just one excuse for them pushing overpriced "organic" food on us. I knew a few people who were fanatical about that crap. This is part of the reason I found my solace in GoW and Skinemax pron.
Posted by: Producers of Battlefield Earth. at February 04, 2010 04:55 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 04:56 PM (gofDd)
Fertilizer takes a lot of petro products to make, transport and use. So you're absolutely correct.
I used to be pretty heavy into the Green Bullshit. This ain't new.
Posted by: GrumpyUnk at February 04, 2010 04:57 PM (d7zzZ)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 04:57 PM (otlXg)
Ya know, we made you a rock circle.
Posted by: Air Force Academy at February 04, 2010 08:56 PM (DIYmd)
I love music. Doesn't it just bring us all together?
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 04, 2010 04:57 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 04:57 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 08:57 PM (otlXg)
Me too.
Posted by: Xenu at February 04, 2010 04:59 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Air Force Academy at February 04, 2010 08:56 PM (DIYmd)
ROFL!
Someone put a cross in that rock circle and now the pagans are offended. Or something. Or their spokeshole is. Who has a last name usually associated with Joooooos.
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 04:59 PM (gofDd)
The only way I'd consume "organic food" willingly is if it was tastefully displayed on some 90's Skinemax actress.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:00 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Beto at February 04, 2010 08:58 PM (+CLh/)
Andrew Sullivan - the name in throwing around dirt.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 04, 2010 05:00 PM (bgcml)
Daily Caller is revealing Treacher to the world in their zeal to ass fuck the Diplomatic Security Service for running his ass down. They wouldn't do that without the pseudonymous Treach-meister having 8 inches of limp dick ready to slap somebody,
So when Ace begins a post with "I am Myron Lipshitz, and I'm pissed", I'd suggest going to Instapundit....
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 04, 2010 05:01 PM (qWLc4)
No thanks to the cut-and-run, all-is-lost Chicken Little brigade of naive asshole opportunists in the US Congress.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 04, 2010 05:02 PM (kr8ET)
Posted by: Peaches at February 04, 2010 05:02 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Tim Tebow at February 04, 2010 05:03 PM (HF2US)
Posted by: RobD at February 04, 2010 05:03 PM (wGIVf)
Sorry, but dirt is not the same thing as dirtbag...
Posted by: ParisParamus at February 04, 2010 05:03 PM (GgR+e)
Lots of UFO sightings in the UK. Maybe they're stealing our dirt cuz they're from a water planet? I'm just saying...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 05:03 PM (4Mmyd)
Posted by: Peaches at February 04, 2010 09:02 PM (9Wv2j)
Well la dee da. You showed me up.
Only nude pics can get me to forgive you.
You know. If you're a chick, like I have always assumed you are.
Otherwise, uh, thanks for the correction.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 04, 2010 05:05 PM (qWLc4)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 09:03 PM (4Mmyd)
Actually, they took us to see your leader...and we got the fark out of dodge. Sorry, we can find other people to probe thank you very much.
Posted by: Some Alien at February 04, 2010 05:05 PM (bgcml)
Google it
Posted by: Beto at February 04, 2010 05:06 PM (+CLh/)
Posted by: dr kill at February 04, 2010 05:06 PM (qO6T2)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 04, 2010 05:06 PM (qWLc4)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:07 PM (DIYmd)
After watching Friday the 13th, Part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan, I thought all the sewer sludge travels throughout the NYC sewer system around midnight and melts the flesh of any poor soul that's stuck down there.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:07 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: kefka at February 04, 2010 05:07 PM (n1uMU)
Posted by: Bufalobob at February 04, 2010 05:08 PM (XjviO)
Posted by: mghorning at February 04, 2010 05:08 PM (VHUcr)
The Commander in Chief used the term corpseman when we all know the correct terminology in this instance is corpselady. Obama's a bitch!
Posted by: Fish at February 04, 2010 05:08 PM (M5t+h)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 04, 2010 09:05 PM (qWLc4)
I would never try to show you up, Morgenholz, you know I love ya. Just didn't want you to keep fucking a dead chicken in public. An act of kindness, as it were.
And, really, you think that old Gaelic name Ace referred to the other day is Myron? lol
Posted by: Peaches at February 04, 2010 05:09 PM (9Wv2j)
I still say we are responsible for the eventual energy death of the universe. Stop Dark Energy now!
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:09 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Duhgee at February 04, 2010 05:10 PM (AHyG/)
I'm down with strip mining the ocean floor for rich organic goo. Maybe some nice nuclear powered mega-dredges? Tres-awesome.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 05:11 PM (4Mmyd)
Technically, once you cross the drainage ditch, the field is private property. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 04, 2010 05:11 PM (qWLc4)
Who can forget the magnificent performance of Secretary Madeline Albright when she danced with Kim Jong Il to secure piece. Hope Kim enjoyed it!
Posted by: Fish at February 04, 2010 05:12 PM (M5t+h)
Posted by: dr kill at February 04, 2010 05:13 PM (qO6T2)
Don't trust anybody, especially if they are a suspected female, that has a sn of "peaches". It'll make you think of this song: Peaches.
Besides, peaches are contributing to the shortfall of dirt that we'll have in the near-future.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:13 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:13 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: GarandFan at February 04, 2010 05:14 PM (ZQBnQ)
Posted by: nickless at February 04, 2010 05:14 PM (MMC8r)
Oh sure, so you can waste the dirt there, too.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:15 PM (qiawf)
Dood, god kills a bunny every time humans wreck another planet. Think about the bunnies!
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 05:16 PM (4Mmyd)
Posted by: dr kill at February 04, 2010 05:16 PM (qO6T2)
When I was a kid we were so poor I would've been happy to eat dirt. All we got for dinner was rocks. Tiny, little pebbly rocks. Only the rich kids got dirt.........
Snivel, snivel.
Posted by: LGoPs at February 04, 2010 05:16 PM (v/rEn)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 09:16 PM (4Mmyd)
Good, maybe bunnies will go extinct.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:17 PM (8NGHm)
S E Cupp is on Hannity wearing her librarian glasses, and with that look, most morons would just her bones for God, conservationism, and Dixie.
Posted by: Fish at February 04, 2010 05:17 PM (M5t+h)
I've already killed legions of kittens due to my craven desires, PA. What makes you think I give a fig about those damn decadent bunnies?
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:17 PM (otlXg)
911 Operator: 911, what is your emergency?
Farmer: Oh my god, oh my god!
911 Operator: Calm down sir. Everything will be alright. Take a deep breath and tell what the nature of the emergency is.
Farmer: It was right there, and now it's all gone!
911 Operator: Sir, what do mean that it's all gone?
Farmer: The dirt.
911 Operator: Sir, did you say dirt?
Farmer: Yes, yes! The dirt!
911 Operator: You're saying that some dirt was stolen?
Farmer: No, no, not stolen. It just dissappeared.
911 Operator: Ok sir. How much dissappeared?
Farmer: All of it! *sobs in background*
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 05:18 PM (Vu6sl)
Not arugala, have you seen what that costs.
Posted by: mghorning at February 04, 2010 05:18 PM (VHUcr)
Isn't "Arugala" the name of Joe Biden's favorite hip science fiction movie?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:19 PM (qiawf)
Ace of Spades, younger wild republicans, which are better than their older fuddy duddy counterparts, and even thou i don't support the republicans, they have a lot of good ideas and funny to boot, in general conservatives have better security awareness cause some liberals love peace too much and everything they love gets murdered.
Posted by: quite googleable at February 04, 2010 05:20 PM (EiH7n)
Knock Knock.
Who's there?
Topsoil Erosion
Topsoil Erosion who?
I guess your right.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:21 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 05:21 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Last Conservative In Brooklyn at February 04, 2010 05:21 PM (7uAeI)
Posted by: quite googleable at February 04, 2010 09:20 PM (EiH7n)
He lives in a van down by the river.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:22 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: nyc redneck at February 04, 2010 05:22 PM (EtrGh)
I had no idea that they weren't talking about actual peaches at the time I was be-bopping to this song, singing "millions of peaches, peaches for me, millions of peaches, peaches for free".
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:22 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Corona at February 04, 2010 05:22 PM (woZIc)
This, of course, is what the ever present and dangerous carrot legions hope for....
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:22 PM (qiawf)
Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2010 05:23 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: mghorning at February 04, 2010 05:23 PM (VHUcr)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:24 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:24 PM (DIYmd)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:25 PM (otlXg)
All kinds of cool animals go extinct and yet the British royal family endures.
I give you Refutation #1 of Darwin.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:25 PM (qiawf)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 05:26 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 09:26 PM (Vu6sl)
We will just use pudding and hobo blood.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:26 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 05:27 PM (a9UO0)
Obama speech tomorrow @ 11: "We must act immediately to address this crisis of dirt or people will die. For this reason, I am proposing spending $1.875 trillion on finding the missing dirt."
(If they come an get it, they can vacuum my son's room and probably replenish the entire British Isles. Must bring own vacuum.)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 04, 2010 05:27 PM (r1h5M)
Not to worry. Jello and pudding are still plentiful.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 05:28 PM (4Mmyd)
Posted by: Peaches at February 04, 2010 05:29 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 05:29 PM (4Mmyd)
What a perfect opportunity for Al Gore to gracefully move into the "Save Our Dirt" movement, and sell certificates of compliance for those willing to erect wind barriers and stop those weekend farmers from potting plants, with the exception of those who grow wacky-weed for medicinal purposes.
Posted by: Fish at February 04, 2010 05:29 PM (M5t+h)
For children, it's got its positive and negative aspects:
Negative: no mud to play in
Positive: won't get spanked for playing in the mud
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 05:31 PM (Vu6sl)
Oh, PA, if any Buff jocks drop in, you are in such deep shit. They are still active and apparently will be until the sun goes dark.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:31 PM (qiawf)
Posted by: Jean at February 04, 2010 05:32 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:33 PM (DIYmd)
No, we're not running out of dirt. We have all the gravel, clay, grit, and sand we could wish for. What we're running low on is nutrient-bearing topsoil. Conserving that should be a conservative value.
Posted by: Zimriel at February 04, 2010 05:34 PM (sVzRC)
The earthworm will be the next endangered species.
Posted by: Ronster at February 04, 2010 05:34 PM (Xu6d3)
I've search high and low and that is the only proof of a Creator I have found.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:35 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 04, 2010 05:35 PM (kr8ET)
Purple Avenger, will we be seeing a retraction of your ignorant snark anytime soon?
Posted by: Zimriel at February 04, 2010 05:35 PM (sVzRC)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 04, 2010 05:35 PM (Vu6sl)
One of the many things I hate about the CO2 obsession is it sucks money and attention away from real issues.
Posted by: stace at February 04, 2010 05:36 PM (g/wgk)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:37 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 04, 2010 05:37 PM (a9UO0)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:39 PM (DIYmd)
Modern anatomically correct Homo Sapiens have been on this planet for about 150K-200K years. But it was only with agriculture starting about 8K years ago that man has emerged from unwashed wilderness into the light of civilization.
If agriculture goes, its back to hunter-gatherer societies.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:39 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 09:37 PM (8NGHm
It's obvious you didn't attend my press conference today.
Posted by: Barack Fn' Obama at February 04, 2010 05:39 PM (Vu6sl)
Perses must still be pissed that I dug my blades into his face. Sorry about that.
We are about to commit economic suicide over "global warming" and the Sun drops into a Dalton Minimum!
There's a good reason for that. Helios got crushed and I finished him off by ripping his head off and using it as a flashlight.
God is screwing with us!
Not God, but chaos, perhaps.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:40 PM (otlXg)
I can see the signs now: NO WAR FOR DIRT!
While soil erosion is a bad thing, North Americans and Europeans generally know how to prevent it. I'm sure there will be localized regions where it happens due to short term thinking, and farmers in those areas will be punished with diminished productivity for not managing their land properly. But as far as epic catastrophies go, I figure we've got plenty of time to get ahead of this one.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 05:40 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: Peter at February 04, 2010 05:40 PM (RgMUY)
lefty doom cries = snarkworthy
PA doesn't owe any apologies. You made your point, Zimriel.
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at February 04, 2010 05:40 PM (hCQG5)
I thought "climate change" exacerbated earthquakes? Although I have heard somebody claim that since we're removing all the oil that the plates no longer have lubrication, thus causing higher frequency of earthquakes.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 04, 2010 05:42 PM (otlXg)
It's a big factor in why Haitian agriculture yields so much less now than it did under the French.
Posted by: Zimriel at February 04, 2010 09:34 PM (sVzRC)
If the Haitian Government had a solution for producing heat for cooking, the people wouldn't have stripped the trees from Port au Prince all the way up the mountain range to the south.
Having flown over Port au Prince on numerous occasions, the fresh water from thunderstorms collects the soil, and the runoff creates a wide swath of brown water extending from the shoreline out to sea. Clearly identifiable from the air as an ecological tragedy, The contaminated water can extend for miles in the rainy season.
Posted by: Fish at February 04, 2010 05:42 PM (M5t+h)
Posted by: nyc redneck at February 04, 2010 05:43 PM (EtrGh)
Posted by: The Big Fucking Worms in "Tremors" at February 04, 2010 05:43 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 04, 2010 05:43 PM (DIYmd)
They shut down a geothermal power project in Switzerland because preliminary drilling caused an earthquake, and subsequent operation of the project was expected to cause a bunch more. Small earthquakes, with only minor cosmetic (non-structural) damage to buildings, but earthquakes nevertheless.
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 04, 2010 05:44 PM (kr8ET)
This person must die for the good of future generations. Holy shit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:45 PM (qiawf)
Remember some years back when we where going to be covered in sewer sludge? What ever happened to all that shit?
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
I have 3 sons. I know where the dirt is and I'm not giving it back now that I know it's "endangered". Bwa ha ha
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2010 05:45 PM (l9p7n)
And you see a problem with that?
Posted by: RobD at February 04, 2010 09:42 PM (wGIVf)
Yes. I like modern medicine. I like industry making cheap goods. I like firearms. I like modern music. I like having free time. All of which is impossible with subsistence living.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:46 PM (8NGHm)
I live not too far from farming operations on the eastern plains of CO. The farmers do everything they can to keep the soil from blowing. The Soil Conservation Service will punish the farmers is they don't follow the government mandates. Hell, the government instituted the some program to take marginal soil out of production. I doubt that some of the alarmists have even seen a farm.
Posted by: Ronster at February 04, 2010 05:47 PM (Xu6d3)
Posted by: GregInSeattle at February 04, 2010 05:47 PM (B5cM9)
I heard something along those lines but it was related to global warming. Global warming causes earthquakes because it heats up the land or something idiotic like that. I learned about plate tectonics when I was in school. Do they not teach that anymore?
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 05:50 PM (gofDd)
Didn't this doom a project recently in California, too.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 04, 2010 05:50 PM (qiawf)
Yes. I like modern medicine. I like industry making cheap goods. I like firearms. I like modern music. I like having free time. All of which is impossible with subsistence living.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 09:46 PM (8NGHm)
Amen, Holger. Those things rock. If we have to go back to subsistence, the only place on earth worth living in will be the tropics. And even then it probably won't be worth it. Better to die in the initial civil convulsions.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 05:51 PM (4nbyM)
If agriculture goes, its back to hunter-gatherer societies.
The animals are protected, so that leaves gathering which is a woman's purvue. This scenario leads to the extinction of men or at least their level of usefulness. I guess I could keep one around to help protect my roots and berries.
It would also lead to welfare reform since the gatherers wouldn't be willing to part with their twigs and berries.
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2010 05:52 PM (l9p7n)
If I have to live like Gilligan's Island I'd rather do that than die. Or the Swiss Family Robinson on my own tropical deserted island. I'll spear anyone who tries to live on my island without permission and use them for shark bait.
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 05:54 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: nyc redneck at February 04, 2010 05:54 PM (EtrGh)
Plate tectonics are racist and not remotely related to underage sex, so that shit is GONE.
Posted by: NAMBLA supporter and Obama pick Kevin Jennings at February 04, 2010 05:55 PM (kr8ET)
Posted by: dagny at February 04, 2010 09:52 PM (l9p7n)
Dagny, I think you forgot the one other inevitable growth industry - pillaging/raiding. Historically, that has been a male-dominated profession.
But I like your thought regarding welfare reform. Once the canned goods in the cities ran out, I figure that welfare reform would be complete in about 2 weeks.
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 05:56 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 04, 2010 05:56 PM (9Lm5R)
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 09:56 PM (4nbyM)
Valhalla here I come!
Remember, it is rape, pillage and then burn.
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 05:59 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: RobD at February 04, 2010 05:59 PM (wGIVf)
Posted by: wherestherum at February 04, 2010 09:54 PM (gofDd)
Tell ya what Rum - if you can figure out how to make coconut radio, coconut television, and a coconut telephone like the professor on Gilligans, and/or build a cool tree house like in Swiss Family, then you defnitely deserve to survive. Kudos! But I suggest you keep something more lethally effective than a spear close at hand...
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 06:01 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: Pig-Pen at February 04, 2010 06:02 PM (4iIhs)
Yeah, I'd be scratching my head trying to remember that whole Gorn episode from TOS
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at February 04, 2010 06:03 PM (hCQG5)
Posted by: mrfixit at February 04, 2010 06:04 PM (Bsm1s)
Posted by: Holger at February 04, 2010 09:59 PM (8NGHm)
You should teach a class. Where does the "kill" step come in that process? Before, or after, rape? Given your blog handle, I assume you have genetic (or at least intellectual) predisposition to the work...
Posted by: Reactionary at February 04, 2010 06:04 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: Pelayo at February 04, 2010 06:05 PM (8NGHm)
Posted by: bill-tb at February 04, 2010 06:06 PM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: B. Obama at February 04, 2010 06:13 PM (4iIhs)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 04, 2010 06:17 PM (9Lm5R)
Posted by: cbullitt at February 04, 2010 06:20 PM (0BEkJ)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 04, 2010 06:25 PM (9Lm5R)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 04, 2010 06:46 PM (4Mmyd)
here's how we save the dirt where I come from:
add portland cement, some gravel and presto! concrete. it'll last forever. be a bitch to plow,tho.
Posted by: NYC developer at February 04, 2010 07:09 PM (SBIko)
Posted by: PJ at February 04, 2010 07:23 PM (pizFh)
About dropped my dinnerplate tonight when CBS News with KC ran a story on GW scam. WTF? Knew I remained in this Dimension when they substituted the word "sceptic" for "legitimate scientist."
BTW, when did windmills become advanced technology? Don't tell the Dutch whatever you do.
Posted by: JW at February 04, 2010 09:24 PM (zuaO5)
Posted by: mojo at February 04, 2010 09:31 PM (D6Uk6)
Ahh the feel good story of the night. Kirk/Kennedy staffers get the boot! Some of these parasites been riding that gravy train for a looong time. now gtfo!! Is that mean?
heh heh http://tinyurl.com/ybl8o7y
Posted by: sonnyspats at February 04, 2010 09:38 PM (68tQb)
Posted by: Sidknee at February 05, 2010 04:39 AM (imN5c)
I'll bet that the drastic action needed to solve the topsoil crisis will be to reduce the earth's population.
It is the default reaction.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 05, 2010 04:50 AM (O9Cc8)
Posted by: dagny at February 05, 2010 04:51 AM (FRjqd)
A dirt shortage ? As long as we have politicians, there will never be a dirt shortage ! Oh, you mean dirt like in plants. Silly me :-)
Hmmmm... plow up the wife's flower beds, cover with leaves, toss in some road kill, a few old tree limbs, cover with a few bags of lime, Hey.. did you that makes topsoil ? Shhhh.. we could be sitting on a gold mine here :-)
Posted by: SirKnob at February 05, 2010 05:29 AM (H1evQ)
Posted by: Caiwyn at February 05, 2010 05:47 AM (NT8XN)
As a geologist, let me just say that as hard as I have laughed at APG alarmist in the past few years, that dirt article made me cry sweet emo tears of laughter.
Posted by: Rob B at February 05, 2010 06:17 AM (q32Ly)
On their list were Organic Food, Recycling and you guessed it Carbon Credits. They pretty much stated that CR's are a scam because it is and empty promise that the person who gave your money too will make sure it is spent right.
Posted by: Gary B at February 05, 2010 07:09 AM (1gWfF)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2010 07:28 AM (xxgag)
When I was a kid, my dad had a big hole dug in the backyard, he said it was for plumbing or something, but they filled it in with dirt... he's hoarding it against the coming shortage.
So if you want to be prepared, dig a big hole in your yard and fill it in with dirt; you'll be set for the coming problems.
I just hope there aren't any anti-hoarding laws coming on the new dirt shortage.
Posted by: Gekkobear at February 05, 2010 08:18 AM (X0NX1)
The obvious answer to both problems: get rid of the Chinese. One can go the Vonnegut route, using SCIENCE! to make the Chinese microscopic, or one can go the Mao route, using genocide to make the Chinese into compost. The latter might solve both the problem of CO2 and the problem of soil loss.
Just sayin' it is one solution, not suggesting it.
Posted by: mIKEE at February 06, 2010 11:28 AM (Y2XWc)
http://3rlighting.com
They are good folks, they sell good products at good prices and when the dirt is all gone, you will be glad that you can grow food without it.
Posted by: Mark in Texas at February 07, 2010 07:30 AM (oEBcV)
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