1 Wind power will....KILL MANY MORE BIRDS!
http://tinyurl.com/39vzhhy

2
cliff notes?

3
And we had the world's first (as far as I know) tar ball fight. Like guys will do, we threw it, ground it into each other's hair, made Mikey eat some. Like paintball fights without protective gear or crappy clothes. Later we tried as best we could later that evening to scrub the shit off, and partially succeeded.

...and now I have cancer and Mikey has a testicle growing out of his forehead.

4
Later we tried as best we could later that evening to scrub the shit off...

you mean like 3 men in a tub?

5
I asked this the other day: What had mor of a negative environmental impact, the recent oil spill or the recent volcanic eruption in Iceland?

6

DAVE, I'm sorry but you have missed the MSM MEME.

 

This is an ECOLOGICAL DISASTER.   Just go to Yahoo Dave. 

Having said all that, CLEARLY  BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH and GOLDMAN SACHS are to blame.

and ARIZONA

7 I'm a mining engineer working in the petroleum industry. In the area of my degree and the area of my profession, people tend to die in grotesque ways and environmental damage is always a possibility. One thing I hate is how the left politicizes these events before the bodies are even out of the water/ground. Kick detection is pretty simple, as far as I've ever messed with that equipment. To think that they let a well kick turn into a blowout is quite bizarre. Another thing to think about is how much crude oil the sea-floor emits in seepage. I can tell you that on any given year it's far more than what oil workers throw in by accident or otherwise. Finally, crude oil is a natural substance. Isn't the left all about that natural organic shit?

8
Finally, crude oil is a natural substance.

heh, a point that seems to always go ognored. It's not like Valvoline just dumped a million gallons of 10W-40 in the ocean.

9 For a moron who likes to eat oil, Dave has an excellent point. Just look at the crap that we spilled into the Great Lakes and the surrounding rivers up until the 70s. We decided that it wasn't such a good idea, we stopped the dumping and then we cleaned it all up.And that was much worse than even the worst estimates of the current spill. I have confidence that in a few months the effects will have been largely mitigated.

That's the (one of countless) beauty of a capitalist economy; we can do anything we set our minds to!

10 Healthy economies can manage the cleanups. Unhealthy ones can't.
So Louisiana will never get cleaned up, then. Okay. (Well, at least until Ms Palin's second administration.)

11
Do you know what else is a health hazard and a menace to society?

The Vice President's motorcade, that's what.

12 We am gettin revengingal on yor  azzz

13 And we had the world's first (as far as I know) tar ball fight.


RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST

14 Let me be clear: covering yourself in oil does not mean you are black. In all probability, it means you are a racist.

15 12 We am gettin revengingal on yor  azzz

Posted by: The Dinosaurs at May 02, 2010 06:39 PM (e9JZd)

shut it, and get in my Tahoe's belly.

16 Another thing to think about is how much crude oil the sea-floor emits in seepage.

I would be nice to have data on that to bash the environuts.

17

Finally, crude oil is a natural substance. Isn't the left all about that natural organic shit?

Really good point. Logical and reasonable, too. Which means, of course, it'll soar right over the heads of the lefties.

 

18 "If you've been to a few third world shitholes you already know what I'm talking about."

You don't even have to leave the country to do it.  Visit east LA.

19 Kick detection is pretty simple, as far as I've ever messed with that equipment. To think that they let a well kick turn into a blowout is quite bizarre.

Has anyone posited that Obama's speech a few weeks ago about increased offshore drilling was simply Part I of a plot to cause a deepwater platform accident, which would provide cover for killing offshore drilling altogether?

20

Communist countries were (and still are) the worst polluters in the history of humanity.

21

What substance was AIR FORCE ONE using as fuel when it buzzed Manhattan last year??

22 Native American tribes were environment destroyers, too.

23 "And we had the world's first (as far as I know) tar ball fight."

Oh, bullshit.  Me and the mastodon were having an EPIC tar ball fight that only ended when we sank under the water.

24 June 3, 1979. I had just been kicked out of my first college

They weren't shitting, Dave.  You are old.

25

We are going to need about 12 million illegals to clean this up.

I have a dream.

26 Indians would live in an area and completely exhaust all of its resources before moving on and doing the same thing somewhere else.

27 26

We are going to need about 12 million illegals to clean this up.

I have a dream.

Posted by: gus at May 02, 2010 06:47 PM (MaqIC)

Is it wrong to think that once they're covered in oil that they'd be a pretty good source for fuel?

28


It breaks my heart to see all of that oil floating in the ocean and washing up on beaches. Not the contaminating Mother Gaia part, the part where I wont be able to burn it in my Dodge Hemi.

29 Finally, crude oil is a natural substance. Isn't the left all about that natural organic shit?

Nice.

(Is oil dead organisms or created some sort of geologic process?  I don't actually know.)

30 I know shit happens, and drilling is necessary ( and I'm a huge supporter) but this foot-dragging and doing of nothing while more petro gets purged shows me the little O does not give a shit about the people who don't/won't vote for him. Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal I think that's the point-unlike previous presidents (Bush? Even Clinton?) if you didn't vote for him, you are screwed if you need executive branch assistance. And Dave, I remember that spill. We went to the Bahia Mar on South Padre every summer except that one. But the very next July, we were back at the beach. Because most people worth their salt will push up their sleeves and put their back into the work to get it done. Sadly, we have a country of whiners who want someone else to do it for them, but they don't want to pay for it. Hence so many illegal aliens. And welfare queens. Dang, how many political memes can I squeeze into this comment?

31 27 Indians would live in an area and completely exhaust all of its resources before moving on and doing the same thing somewhere else.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2010 06:48 PM (P33XN)

So you're saying they were the first true liberals?

32

Is oil dead organisms or created some sort of geologic process?  I don't actually know.

Oil was formed from the decomposition of dead African-American slaves.

33

Is it crazy to think that some of O's nutjob buddies would plant a fake bomb just to blame it on the right?

Extreme case of astroturfing?

Where's the National Enquirer stand on this story?

34

Unclefacts has a point.  We don't need to EAT seafood and birds.  We need to burn them in our cars, and trucks.

Or we could feed them to Haitians.

35 20: That's just a little creepy. Not you, not your comment, but the thought that something like that is even plausible. Does that make us Oil Platform troofers?

36 But Obama said this is "unprecedented".

Somebody's lying.

37

So you're saying they were the first true liberals?

No. They weren't doing what they were doing and then projecting it onto others.

That came later when they learned they could get money out of whitey.

38 burn it in my Dodge Hemi.

Posted by: Blazer at May 02, 2010 06:49 PM (t72+4)

Is there a finer engine made than the dodge hemi? No, no there is not.

39 Oil, it has been argued, comes from dead dinosaurs, algae and bacteria and a few other sources. I believe that this is the latest theory.

40 38

So you're saying they were the first true liberals?

No. They weren't doing what they were doing and then projecting it onto others.

That came later when they learned they could get money out of whitey.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2010 06:54 PM (P33XN)

Ah, see I've always ascribed to the notion that liberals are a lot like locusts. They live in an area for a while, shit it all to hell, then move themselves to a place that is thriving and successful. Then once there, they repeat the process, turning it into yet another shithole.

41 ...and now I have cancer and Mikey has a testicle growing out of his forehead. Posted by: Shmoo at May 02, 2010 06:24 PM (BAyrt) Hey, a spare is always handy.

42 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/01/000127082228.htm

article about seepage

43 Especially while doing things which would otherwise be darwin-award winning.

44 We're still looking for the chum.

45 They live in an area for a while, shit it all to hell, then move themselves to a place that is thriving and successful. Then once there, they repeat the process, turning it into yet another shithole.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 02, 2010 06:56 PM (erIg9

My people call 'em "5 acre wonders".

46

It's the Dave in Texas experimented with his sexuality in college post!  He tried to make it sound all macho, but that's how I read it.

I hear these days he's wayyyy into growing water lillies.

47

My people call 'em "5 acre wonders".

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 02, 2010 06:59 PM (FRHGr)

yep, it's been ramping up here in my part of the world now for a while. they're leaving the burbs for the real country, after having fled rochester. cocksuckers all of em

48

Anyone hear about this disaster in the gulf?

http://tinyurl.com/2awd4nc

Persian Gulf, that is.

49 3 Schmoo ...and now I have cancer and Mikey has a testicle growing out of his forehead.

Yeah, this is the guy they kicked out of his mosque for "teabagging Allah"

50 In the 60' and 70's spills on beaches were pretty common. I know in NJ they were closing stretches all the time, mostly I think, from shipping. You just wait for it to wash up, rake it off and then turn the sand. They even had special equipment that I remember seeing as a youngster. The rake was a standard from rake but the over turner was some custom thing.

At worse the beach would be closed for a few days after it stopped washing ashore, and then it was fine.

The real problem is marsh like in the gulf, and rocky areas like Alaska, but even there I think it takes care of itself in a few years.

As for contamination , I linked this article above
http://tinyurl.com/68p8fc
and there really is a lot seeping out all the time. The real crime is that we let this stuff leak into the gulf rather than drill it out.

51  The real crime is that we let this stuff leak into the gulf rather than drill it out.

Posted by: nine coconuts at May 02, 2010 07:04 PM (DHNp4)

That and all that oil under the ground makes the earths plates all slippery and causes earthquakes.

52 The natural seepage off the California coast is a lot less than it would be if not for relieving the pressure by drilling.  So, by drilling we are preventing Gia from polluting the environment.

53

Anyone hear about this disaster in the gulf?

http://tinyurl.com/2awd4nc

Persian Gulf, that is.

Nifty.  What the hell is this?

54

Here's a thought.

FUCKING THOUSANDS OF FULLY FUELED SHIPS WERES SUNK IN WWII.

 

55 That and all that oil under the ground makes the earths plates all slippery and causes earthquakes.

Patently untrue.

56

Every small town and neighborhood should have a siren that goes off when liberals move into the area.

Sort of like a tornado siren but instead of taking shelter you take up arms and go kill the intruders, bury them, and then never talk about what happened to nosy law enforcement types.

57

Every small town and neighborhood should have a siren that goes off when liberals move into the area.

I've watched the state of Washington go from a center right state to a rabid left wing hellhole and it only took 20 years. First we got the Californians then the eastcoasters came.

58

>>  You are old

 

HAHAHA. Fuck you very much.  Punk. Pay for my retirement too.

59

Every small town and neighborhood should have a siren that goes off when liberals move into the area.

Sort of like a tornado siren but instead of taking shelter you take up arms and go kill the intruders, bury them, and then never talk about what happened to nosy law enforcement types.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2010 07:08 PM (P33XN)

Just look at Detroit after it was hit by liberalism. The Chinese and the Russians even quit targeting Detroit with their nukes because.......well.......why waste any perfectly good nukes ?

60 I believe that this is the latest theory.

Thanks for the link.  That's pretty cool.  And now the "algae for biofuels" kinda makes more sense...(food for biofuels still doesn't).

61 I've watched the state of Washington go from a center right state to a rabid left wing hellhole and it only took 20 years. First we got the Californians then the eastcoasters came.

Liberal game plan
1. vote in liberal Democrats

2. Increase social pay outs and prevent enforcement of laws to encourage illegal immigration and increase dependent class

3. Move

Repeat until no states left to move to, then move overseas.

62 I just want to say how much I dislike liberals.

63 If you've been to a few third world shitholes you already know what I'm talking about.

America decided to bring the third world shithole to us.

"I was a little Jakarta street kid."  -- The Ineligible Precedent

64 "Finally, crude oil is a natural substance." heh, a point that seems to always go ognored. It's not like Valvoline just dumped a million gallons of 10W-40 in the ocean. You don't do much of that "science" stuff, do you?

65 On an earlier thread I was talking about my Sunday charity work for my family in the barrio, well I know people that move to NJ from new York since NJ has better housing allowances and stuff.

What kind of idiots would increase pay outs so much that you attract out of staters? And if people are willing to come here from NY, do they really think they are not coming here from south of the border?
 
Chris Christi has a lot of work ahead of him.

66

The oil had formed into these fist-sized balls of tar that were littering the beach up and down.

By the time I went there, summer of '82, there were very few of these; they were kind of hard, and they were typically a foot or two in diameter.  I assume they were from the same leak.

You'd see one of these things about every 50 feet or so, seems like.  No big deal at all.

67

Pay for my retirement too.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 02, 2010 07:12 PM (Wh0W+)

I have elected representatives that have made sure of it.

68

Great stuff Dave.  I am a geologist and worked in the Cumberland Plateau of Tennessee as a young pup - I have drilled a gusher in Pappy's back 40.

Very late tonight I will be traveling to Gulfport, MS where I will be collecting samples of the crude to confirm the grade.  Typically this area yields light sweet, but an environmental scientist at LSU ran a sample and reported he had never seen so many asphaltenes (black tar).  His description was something akin to oil sands from Canada.   I suspect shitty lab work/the volatiles were already gone by the time he took his sample.  That or he has an ax to grind and is trying to keep the fear factor as high as possible.

Anyway, it's a big deal because light sweet will be much easier to deal with down the road.  If it is light sweet, we will have a peanut butter colored goo on the sand to clean up.

69 What kind of idiots would increase pay outs so much that you attract out of staters?

Down here in FL we call'em northern liberals.  No, they're not too bright, and have no understanding of incentives.

70 Expect to see a lot of oily birds on TV this week. No mention of the 11 roughnecks killed.

71 Does anyone know if oil is still being produced in the ground? Or was it a one time deal.

72 Since this seems to be the only show in town, I have been trying to come up with a tie-in joke about eels in all the wrong places (see right).  So far, nothing.  Help a guy out. 

73 I got so sick of the finger pointing I sold the boat, put a swimming pool in the backyard, and stayed the hell away from NJ for about a decade. Ocean dumping is for a retarded civilization that deserves to die a slow lingering death.

All the NJ problems were coming from NY. If I recall correctly, the medical stuff had to be burnt, but it wasn't since the special haulers were cheating, and dumping moved from "out yonder" to 3 miles, to finally 20 miles out, but it still washed ashore. NJ shores.

It was outlawed on the Federal level, but NY was so f-ed up they kept needing extensions and the problems washed onto another state anyways so what was the rush?

This was back in the Lindsay, Beame, "How'm I doin" dickhead Koch days when the Liberals were running the city.

74 Knaws, is that light sweet stuff like west Texas and New Mexico crude?

75

I saw a commentator ask why they sank the rig with the fire extinguishing efforts (and why put out the fire at all).  That made sense to me.  Seems like a rig on the surface is going to create less of a problem than one that sinks and, presumably, tears up the pipe on the way down. 

It seems like they should have let it burn, but I can understand the motivation to put out the fire more--the search for the missing.  But, like I indicated, sinking the rig seems like an incredible mistake.

76 74, It is still happening. The rate is too slow for us to detect. It takes millions of years to build up the sediments, bury them, and then compress and heat them into oil bearing rock formations.

77 we had the world's first (as far as I know) tar ball fight. Like guys will do, we threw it, ground it into each other's hair, made Mikey eat some. Paintball fights without protective gear or crappy clothes.

Sounds like the Halliburton Company Picnic.

78 I've watched the state of Washington go from a center right state to a rabid left wing hellhole and it only took 20 years.

20 years???  It was moving to the left hard when I was there in 74.

79 Knaws, is that light sweet stuff like west Texas and New Mexico crude?

Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 02, 2010 07:30 PM (Wh0W+)

Can somebody put some effin' knowledge to a moron on the different basic grades of oil?  How does that work?

80

I could be wrong, but I don't think they sank the platform. I think it sank from its own weight and from being weakened due to fire.

Wait.

That can't be right because we all know that fire will not melt steel.

_Nevermind.

81

I thought oil was made out of brown people.

Which explains, of course, why white people covet it so much.

82 My ex didn't mind when I called her "light, sweet, crude."

83 I tell you, it seems that the Chinese solve all their problems by sticking something up a butt.

Want to kill yourself? stick a cucumber up your butt
Want to play a joke? stick an eel up your buddies butt

I know enough about China to have no idea if these stories are true.

84

I'm telling you I think the precedent sent the Interior Dept. SWAT team down to the Gulf before the rig blew up and they had a hand in it.

Obama lied and the birds died.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

85

86...

I have to admit to getting sick to my stomach everytime they talked about hauling the remnants from 9/11 to the "Fresh Kills" landfill.

I couldn't have been the only one.

86 20 years???  It was moving to the left hard when I was there in 74.

Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2010 07:37 PM (QrA9E)

Uh, no it wasn't.  This state had a Republican governor in '81 - 85 and voted for Reagan both times.

People here were not full fledged commies.  Now they are. 

87 long post

88

The problems with California started long, long before the 1960s. Every crackpot with a new age idea moved out there in the early 1900s because it was easy to start a religion. Los Angeles had dozens upon dozens of goofy shitheels building temples and churches devoted to ass crack religions. The racist Christian Identity movement started in California. Theosophy was big out there, too.

89 eaten by

90 spam filter

91 20 years???  It was moving to the left hard when I was there in 74.

Posted by: Vic at May 02, 2010 07:37 PM (QrA9E)

1974 was just after Washington helped elect Nixon in 1972 and just before Washington voted for Ford in 1976. Then there was that whole voting for Reagan in 80 and 84. So I guess your right, it was hard hard left in 1974.

92

Herr M.

I've now learned to copy every long comment before hitting the post button.

Just in case.

Losing a well-thought out comment will make you lose your cool.

93

53 The natural seepage off the California coast is a lot less than it would be if not for relieving the pressure by drilling.  So, by drilling we are preventing Gia from polluting the environment. shitting her panties.

FIFY

94

I've watched the state of Washington go from a center right state to a rabid left wing hellhole and it only took 20 years. First we got the Californians then the eastcoasters came.

You whiny Washington staters have been blaming California for all of your problems for over the last 40-years. In the 1970's you were all complaining that too many ex-Californians were REPUBLICAN. Back then California was solid red and the common slur was that we were all "litter bugs".

The truth is that you lost controll of your education system to the progs who then fsked the heads of your own children and then made them hate you.

You did it to yourself Washington, and as far as I'm concerned it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch!

95 Shit happens.

The Lord usually is in charge, so it will work out.

I say usually, because he must have been asleep when he let "the One" win.

I am sure he regrets it now, or it was his plan to run the democrats out or the country, yeah that's it.

I am a hoping.

96

I say usually, because he must have been asleep when he let "the One" win.

It was a warning that said, "Get your shit together or the rain of fire and sulphur is the second act."

97
the thought that something like that is even plausible.

Ok, we need to nip this in the bud, right away.  What we're going to inevitably find out is that an insufficient amount of concrete was used to cap the well (with transocean or h-burton, whoever had their people on board) and through this negligence we had a blowout.  There wasn't a bomb, SEALs didn't blow up the dikes, Bush and Cheney weren't piloting the planes, so pull your head out of your ass and take a deep breath.

Jeez.

98

You did it to yourself Washington, and as far as I'm concerned it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch!

Posted by: El Diablo en San Diego con Tacos de Pescados at May 02, 2010 07:51 PM (F09Uo)

Dude - you haven't a clue what you're talking about.  Our population grew over 60% from 1980 to 2009.  

Yes - many from your godforsaken state. 

99 No way the Greek government survives this kind of austerity:  http://bit.ly/apyObC

100

I don't know if anyone has explained it yet, but here's what happens with petroleum on water.

 

Oil is a mixture of many different weights of chemicals, from very light Butane to Asphalt. All put together they are lighter than water, so oil floats. The lighter portions evapoate over time, so what is left becomes denser and denser until it is the same density as water or heavier and begins to sink, coalesce and move with the undercurrents. That is why sea bottom organisms are threatened by the oil spills, and why the beaches usually become contaminated with tarry asphalt balls.

101 This is a tempest in a teapot. We've had bigger oil slicks here on the Gulf Coast when Italian-Americans have held their annual conventions here.

102
And Holy Cats, Dave in Texas is an old fart!

_{Good thing he's already in bed and won't see this.}

103

You did it to yourself Washington, and as far as I'm concerned it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch!

Posted by: El Diablo en San Diego con Tacos de Pescados at May 02, 2010 07:51 PM (F09Uo)

Heh, look who's talking. I am getting lectured by a fucking Californian on education. Next he will be giving me pointers on how to budget properly.

104
Dammit Jim, fish tacos from where? 

105 Compassionate UN forces consoles population of Darfur at protest over Madoff type ponsi scheme! Coming to a theater near you? http://tinyurl.com/2f3s385

106

Can't we all get along, Washington and California?

Learn to beat up on the common enemy...Oregon.

107 What we're going to inevitably find out is that an insufficient amount of concrete was used to cap the well

But concrete can not fail when under water.
Rosie O'donell told me so.

108

Posted by: bergerbilder at May 02, 2010 07:57 PM (S1Ttj)

So it's a hydrocarbon soup with a bunch of different shit of varying solvency, etc.  Thus the different grades are different recipes of soup.

Think I got it.

109

Dude - you haven't a clue what you're talking about.  Our population grew over 60% from 1980 to 2009.  

Yes - many from your godforsaken state. 

Posted by: Editor at May 02, 2010 07:56 PM (YX6i/)

So what! You guys were freaks LONG before your average Californian ever thought of going to your overcast hell.

Besides, California's skilled labor poll that did go there early on was solid Republican, as aerospace engineers relocating to work for Boeing were typically not your average tree hugger.

Were it not for California you bastards would have gone communist already.

110
OT: anybody got mlb.tv?  What do you think about it? 

111

Were it not for California you bastards would have gone communist already.

Posted by: El Diablo en San Diego con Tacos de Pescados at May 02, 2010 08:01 PM (F09Uo)

Dude, put the crack down.  That's some rancid fish tacos you had there, Jim.

112

I think it sank from its own weight and from being weakened due to fire.

That's simply not possible!  I talked it over with Willie and we both agree it was an inside job.  Steel DOES NOT burn.

I'm going to call Joy now and get her take.  Be right back!

113 OT: turned on the radio station to get the Rays score, got a dumbass sports radio guy ranting on the Arizona Law and how it was wrong for Americans to have to have identification on them all the time, you could tell the dofus hadn't read the law; nothing pisses me off like politics entering sports...

114 105 This is a tempest in a teapot. We've had bigger oil slicks here on the Gulf Coast when Italian-Americans have held their annual conventions here.

Posted by: Perspectives at May 02, 2010 07:57 PM (ITzbJ

As a proud Alumni from Whats-A Matta-U I would highly advise hiring a food taster and car start flunky!

115 Futures up slightly in Asia, down in Eur, and mixed in N America.

I predict a bloodbath.

116
We've had bigger oil slicks here on the Gulf Coast when Italian-Americans have held their annual conventions here.

Yeah, but it's not so much the oil-slicks as the fish kills from all the garlic.

117

Good find on that Greece article, Herr.

Holy shit is it going to get bad there. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a coup in the works.

118 108
Dammit Jim, fish tacos from where? 

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 02, 2010 07:58 PM (qEmr3)

A roadside joint called "Don Ponchos" between Imperial Beach and Diablo Island.

http://bit.ly/drjn0o

Great stuff!

119 Nw River Monster episode on Animal Planet right now.

120 how it was wrong for Americans to have to have identification on them all the time

Like when I buy some brews or some smokes, or renew my driver's license, or go to the bank, or use my own fucking credit card, or buy or sell bullion, or vote?

121
or vote?

You only have to show ID to vote if you're a republican.

122

Bad taco link

Try this: http://bit.ly/bVe5Wx

 

123 110

Can't we all get along, Washington and California?

Learn to beat up on the common enemy...Oregon.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2010 08:00 PM (P33XN)

God, I hate those fscks!

124 Let's nuke Ashland!!!!

125 What the fuck did I do?

126
I'm from Texas and even I can't stand those g-d Oregoners.

127 Bad taco link

It's happened to us all, bro.

128 120
We've had bigger oil slicks here on the Gulf Coast when Italian-Americans have held their annual conventions here.

Yeah, but it's not so much the oil-slicks as the fish kills from all the garlic.

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 02, 2010 08:05 PM (qEmr3)

And you can expect a visit from Guido and Vito who are currently fielding complaints from our customer service department!

129 But yeah, go ahead and nuke Ashland. And don't forget Eugene.

130 What the fuck did I do?

Posted by: Native Oregonian at May 02, 2010 08:13 PM (6fZqs)

There's one! Get em!

131   124 how it was wrong for Americans to have to have identification on them all the time

Like when I buy some brews or some smokes, or renew my driver's license, or go to the bank, or use my own fucking credit card, or buy or sell bullion, or vote?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at May 02, 2010 08:07 PM (FRHGr)

Damn where I come from you better carry ID or get charged with vagrancy! Frakin Mexican hobo's thats all they are!

132 134 What the fuck did I do?

Posted by: Native Oregonian at May 02, 2010 08:13 PM (6fZqs)

There's one! Get em!

Posted by: robtr at May 02, 2010 08:15 PM (fwSHf)

Dibbs on his soul!

133

You know who else wasn't willing to show identification?

John Rambo.

And look how that turned out.

134 133 But yeah, go ahead and nuke Ashland. And don't forget Eugene.

Posted by: Native Oregonian at May 02, 2010 08:14 PM (6fZqs)

You shall all perish under my wrath!

135

John Rambo.

And look how that turned out.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2010 08:17 PM (P33XN)

Yeah and where was he? fuckin Oregon man.

136 Link to "WZ" and the sniper story please?

137 You goddamn Californians have some nerve. Even hippie enclaves like Ashland & Eugene used to be timber towns until you cocksuckers showed up and started whining, "I've never seen a woodpecker, you can't cut that tree!!" Bunch of fuckers.

138 We're going to have to hear about this bullshit like it is  end times for months, aren't we? It'll be worse than all that damn swine flu epidemic daily scare. *sigh* All the while we'll hear how every bomb is just a "one-off."

139 oops wrong thread. Moron.

140
What the fuck did I do?

You know you sick f*ckers get a big chuckle out of exposing the rest of the country to those awful uniforms the Ducks wear.  Thank G*d they're in the PAC-10 so we rarely see them.

141 144 LOL

142

Dave and Texas Jew,  you guys probably have the best perspective on this post regarding how much they knew and when they knew it.  If this is right the Feds knew this was going to be a big problems days ago and didn't respond.  This is a vid from NOAA discussing the size of the spill.

http://tinyurl.com/23pde34

 

143 As a kid my parents would take us to Oxnard to at on the beach. We used to always come home with tarballa on our feet. Some Santa Barbara beaches still have tar on them.

144

Facts I am in a position to know:

The Ixtoc blowout in the Bay of Campeche:  They had one of the Cameron BOP's upside down.  BOP's will only hold pressure from one direction and won't work upside down.  I remember the tar balls too.  It was a much bigger release of hydrocarbon than the Deepwater Horizon is likely to be. 
Microbes digest hydrocarbons so all of it is gone.  Ever wonder where all the tons of rubber that have worn off tires has gone?  There should be drifts of it along the roadways, right?  Microbes ate it.

The drill crew and the two cement experts (Swaco) who were killed never had a chance.  They were awaiting a boat bringing casing cementing equipment when a temporary bridge plug apparently failed.  That caused  natural gas to migrate up the hole, expanding as it moved due to reduced pressure as it neared the surface.  The driller never even got to push the ESD button for the stack to initiate the emergency shutdown sequence.

The talk about additional safety equipment used in Norway or Scotland but not required by the Evil Bush and Darth Cheney is utter bullshit.  They are the exact same rigs, they move all over the world.  There are different requirements for the volumetric capacity of subsea BOP's in Norway but it would have made no difference.

The Horizon listed and eventually sank because all the water they were spraying from the firefighting boats gets into open hatches and flows down into the hull's equipment spaces.  The ballast control system was unmanned and unoperable after everyone evacuated so the rig began to list and finally topple.

   

145 144 -- As a Beaver fan I heartily endorse your characterization of ducks and duck uniforms. Also, fuck you California.

146 Are we saying it would have been better to let the platform burn, instead of sinking it trying to put the fire out, or were there lives at stake that neccessitated puttting the fire out as soon as possible?

147 #146  ohioDan,  I was just going to post that when I saw your link.

I note that whoever taped that was very careful to show signs, maps, charts, and documents.  

Looks to me like those guys wanted proof they were doing their jobs.  I am sure they have noticed the tendency of Obama to throw underlings under the bus.

148 Ah, 1979....before media hysteria.

149 We're going to see hours of TV time of people cleaning oil of frickin' seabirds.  In the Valdez spill they spent something like an average of $6,000 PER BIRD.  JH Christ, people let them die!  You can't walk a hundred yards along the beach without scaring up a hundred damn seabirds.  We can afford to lose a few.  Really.
And there'll be a no-limit credit card when it comes to cute shit like otters and dolphins and whatever.  Didn't they spend something like $80,000 on one single otter at the Valdez site?
When the Torrey Canyon went down off Spain, about half of the spill site was cleaned up before the Spanish government ran out of the money they'd been given for the cleanup.  So they walked away from the rest.  Biologists went back about 7 years later and found the areas they tried to clean (using detergents, etc) were still recovering, and the areas they'd left the hell alone were nearly spotless.  Oil is a food source and what do you know, there are various microorganism that'll munch down on it.  The food source expands, they breed like hell, the food source is gone, they die, all the sea critters that eat dead shit clean them up, and all is well.  Might even get some nice crabs out of it.  (The same thing happened at the Valdez site.  Some of the areas where they steam-cleaned the rocks are still desolate.)
And my first wife used to tell me about the beaches off Santa Barbara getting hit with seeps every once in a while.  Her parents would pour kerosene into a pan so the kids could clean the tar off their feet.  She's a raving loony enviro, but even she admits Mother Nature can be a bitch.

150

"Losing a well-thought out comment will make you lose your cool."

Ha! Not something I need to worry about.

151 I wondered what happened to all the tire particles on the roads since I was a kid. Now I know,amazing what one can learn here.  

152

128 Let's nuke Ashland!!!!

TWICE!!!

153

Ohio Dan, I think it's largely Obama depending on the forces that were already engaged, until it became larger as it was.  It wasn't a political problem until now.

 

In some ways I think George W fell into that same trap with Katrina.

 

Just my .02

154 Wow, being one of the first posters gets you read a little bit. I will say this; Here's a link supporting seepage versus other sourses, please note extraction being jumbled with "consumption" http://tinyurl.com/235gh4h @ 66 Blonde Agent. Crude Oil and Valvoline 10W-20 are two totally different things. In fact Valvoline is a synthetic oil. Synthetics can be created from coal, much like what Nazi Germany did to alleviate their own lubricant shortage. Apparently you don't do teh science either. Also, synthetics are waay more toxic than crude oil.

155

I remember the 1979 oil spill too as I and my family vacationed a lot on South Pardre Island.  As I recall, even with oil on the beach and in the surf, the tourist business on South Padre didn't skip a beat.

Here in Texas, we regularly get environmental disasters like tornados, hurricanes, all kinds of oil production events e.g. refinery explosions, spills, etc. but since we are doers rather than whiners, we just clean up the disaster mess and get on with life.

 

156

Prediction:  Iragi oil wells will burn for 10 years.

Reality:  Americans put those out in 9 months.

Sack up!

157

Had to get some sleep.

Yes, it is similar to the W Texas stuff in that it is low in sulfur (sweet).  Probably not as light (density).  WTI is considered the Cognac of crude.

Crude is named by the source location (field) - Brent (north sea) and Arab light.  All with more sulphur and higher density than WTI.   BCF 17 is the Venezuelan shit. 

Just got my wake up call, now they think the slick won't even reach Mississippi coast.  Good news for them, longer boat ride for me - I get sea sick in a bathtub. Time to go.

 

158 IP = 78.110.8.18

159 IP = 59.61.11.147

160
warning, Aggie link

Hey, now. Be nice.

161

Am I the only person who wonders why, after 2 weeks, nobody has gone down to at least attempt to cap Deepwater Horizon's well?  I'd venture a guess that there is some federal regulation keeping anybody from doing it.  I know this country, and others, have the engineering capability to do this.  So why is it still spewing oil?  I'd venture another guess that this bunch of thugs in the Whitehouse is happy that this happened, and they are going to be positively orgasmic when the pictures start rolling in of cute little marine mammals and birds covered in oil.  Then they can all say "See? This is why we shouldn't be drilling."

162 IP = 116.4.3.211

163

Not to advertise another political blog, but LibertyPundits is listing a story that the rig was sunk by a NorK submarine. The source is the Kremlin and they are saying the actual cause is known by the US Govt and the Feds have imposed a complete media blackout on the real cause of the fire/sinking of the rig.

Additionally, the rig was owned by Transocean, BP was contracting the rig.

Boys and Girls, I'm getting dizzy from the spin...

164 God Damn Bush is trying to make our brilliant young POTUS look bad again. That SOB never gives up. This pisses me off and I will vote this October to throw out those Cumstain Republicans.

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