1 This would sink his candidacy if he was wearing a Matthew Lesko question mark suit.

2 Hayworth is a Democrat. Who knew?

3 what's the problem? He's just telling you the secrets THEY don't want you to know about

4 Is this a great country, or what?

5 Yes he will take a hit on this.  He just went down a notch in my book.  He is cheapened by it.  How can politicians be so clueless as to the perception voters have of them?

6

...Open a Coffee Shop!

 

7 In a completely unrelated note, John McCain has called for nuclear landmines to be places on the Arizona-Mexico border

8 So, voters must decide which candidate lies more? Sounds like every other election to me.

9 This is sleazy. And to justify it by suggesting that he is just showing taxpayers how to get some of their tax money back is disingenuous. We all know that if a democratic party, or Rino had delivered this infomercial, we'd be disgusted.

10 I don't think he'll take much of a hit from this.

The reason is that the amount of damage that Hayworth could do as Senator is far less than the amount of damage that Mr. "Don't Call Me Maverick" can do due to both seniority and a desire to make up for what he's said to get elected this time.


McCain is kissing every ass he can find right now in order to make it out of the primary, going against his McAmnesty image to push hard for border control amongst other things.  Who trusts this guy not to immediately tack hard to the left for the general election and the next six years if he gets past Hayworth?

11

AZ should still elect him, with the caveat that if they aren't completely satisfied during the first 30 days, they can get him returned, no questions asked, and all they will have to pay is his ticket home.

Plus, they will still get to keep Hayworth's bonus CD, How to Get Rich in Lake-Front Real Estate!, as their free gift.

12 That woman looks like the same one in all those internet ads.

She must be doing well!

13 But wait there's more! For a limited time only, if you call right now, in addition to "Free Money" if you are one of the next 60 callers, we'll send you not one but TWO jars of EZ Screw lube. That is a real deal, because you will need it!

14

don't think he'll take much of a hit from this.

The reason is that the amount of damage that Hayworth could do as Senator is far less than the amount of damage that Mr. "Don't Call Me Maverick" can do due to both seniority and a desire to make up for what he's said to get elected this time.

I agree, while I did vote for McCain over Toonces, I will never forgive him for that Gang of 14 shit.  Where is the Gang of 14 now that bumbles is the president

15

Well, this is just great. I know this is an informercial and all, but why do it? Wouldn't his candidacy be better served by going into a bit more detail about how the government is actually confiscating your money and wasting it instead of allowing you to keep it? Is he that hard up for cash?

J.D., please, cut the crap and get with the program. We do not want more inefficient government. We want it contained and trimmed. We want good jobs and economic freedom.

BTW, is anyone else running for the GOP in that race?

_{Is this question day?}

16 And if you act now, I'll include this amazing vegetable slicer with six interchangeable blades, absolutely FREE!

17 "Who trusts this guy not to immediately tack hard to the left " Well, if you think he's a hard-core Leftist then he probably will, but if you think he's a "finger in the wind" guy (as I do), he'll be veering Right if he veers anywhere.

18
McCain is the better candidate.  Even though he's an old squish.  Hayworth is nutz.

Encouraging people to suck on the government teat? - irresponsible.

19
I personally strangled the Frito Bandito.

20 What I don't understand is how McCain is still in office.

21 My area of Michigan got a million dollars to build a fence that would keep turtles from crossing a freeway and getting killed. Many who knew that it was a dumb waste of money justified it by suggesting that if Michigan didn't get the money, some other state would. The old, "If we don't flush the tax money down the toilet, Ohio will, so let's flush away." argument. Oh, and the fence suffered damage the first winter. As anyone with an IQ over fifty could have predicted, once the snow and ice hit, cars slid off the freeway right into the turtle fence.

22 YIPPIE-KI-YEA, MOTHER EFFER!!11!!

23
Lets all get on teh gubmint teat.  Then, stand back, and watch as it all collapse.

COOL.

24 Option #4 on your poll. A quick apology will negate any fallout from this appearance. Trust me on this.

25
Meanwhile, since politics is filled to the brim with assholes, liars, CROOKS and idiots

House Democrats to Vote on Fake Budget

26 I personally strangled the Frito Bandito.

Posted by: John McCainiac

Dare we ask about the Chiquita banana lady?

27 Well, if you think he's a hard-core Leftist then he probably will, but if you think he's a "finger in the wind" guy (as I do), he'll be veering Right if he veers anywhere.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 21, 2010 02:45 PM (TPEo9)

I mean "hard left" compared to what he's campaigned on so far, not an absolute "hard left".  I have slightly more trust in him than I have in an Arlen Specter or Charlie Crist, as all three are political whores who would say whatever it takes to get elected and then do whatever they feel like once they get into office.

28 I qualify for a service connected disability. It's minor. It's silly. It's worth 10%. I think it's stupid that I qualify for it. I don't think I should qualify for it. It doesn't matter. Those are the rules that I signed up to play by. Because the government is too stupid to realize the folly in its way, my son gets $123 a month deposited in his 529. I'd be stupid for not taking it. Change the rules. I'm all for it. In the mean time, I'll play by them.

29 I think I'm going to have to go back to viewing politics as low brow humor. You know, a three stooges kind of thing. Yuk, yuk, yuk.

30

*open to footage of an elderly man turning out his pant pockets, his body-language conveying high exasperation*

VOICEOVER:  Oh, no!  Broke again?

*wipe to a younger woman frantically searching through an empty purse*

VOICEOVER:  Are you tired of running out of money?

*show both above characters nodding their heads in frustrated agreement*

VOICEOVER:  Then you need Jaydini^TM!

31
McCain-Feingold. That is all.

Disaster anti-free speech squish legislation.   That's the squish part.  Also, his flip flopping on amnesty and border security.  McCain should hang it up, but Hayworth is not an ideal gop candidate.  Hayworth typifies what is wrong with the future of the gop.

32

From Lemonkitten's link:

Past Congresses have failed to pass budgets under the Republican rule, but never in history has a Congress failed to even bring a budget to the floor.

The Democrats' ersatz budget would be attached to war funding, oil spill aid, and — if they can round up the votes — the president's favored $20+ billion bailout of public sector

 

Geez, I hate these mofos.  They really all have to go. 

33 I'm half surprised he wasn't in the spray on hair commercial. Sure looks like it.

34
Dare we ask about the Chiquita banana lady?

All I'll say is  this, my friends, have you seen Juan Valdez lately? Didn't think so.

35 I alone know the exact location of Carmen Sandiego...

36 Freakin" politician is plagiarizing me! Money, it's a gas Grab that cash with both hands And make a stash

37 Hayworth vs McCain is exactly why the ballot should always have a "none of the above" choice.

38 Here's the thing, Milton Friedman said that if you were eligible for these programs, you'd be a fool not to take the money.  Somebody's going to get it, you're not doing the republic any favors in turning it down for yourself.

It's not like if you turn the money down that it won't be spent.

39

McCain's "Just Finish The Dang Fence" ad didn't get much traction and he's getting desperate.  He's rolling out his new "Just Kill The Damn Mexicans" series this week.

40 Change the rules. I'm all for it. In the mean time, I'll play by them.

That's why I don't support unilateral disarmament, either in weapons or earmarks or term limits.

41

Damn...that rascally McCain has more lives than Carter has liver pills.

J.D. is the used cars salesman to Huckleberry's faith healer.

 

 

  

42 You have a claim. Now which one's Pink?

43

McCain is kissing every ass he can find right now in order to make it out of the primary, going against his McAmnesty image to push hard for border control amongst other things.  Who trusts this guy not to immediately tack hard to the left for the general election and the next six years if he gets past Hayworth?

Exactly. I don't care how bad Hayworth is, McLame sucks. Run a LaRouche Democrat (see previous thread) against McLame and he would get votes.

44
Who's sick of tired re-treads?  raise your hand.

*me*
 
Still, what's better? - McCain the old squish, or some Pelosi drone(D)?

45 I love how it feels like, after a few slow news days, all the nimrods (with apologies to Watersmeet) come out full force. We got the Huckster, we got the Ronulans, was get this dipshit. All spouting the same old "get yer share of the Obama stash!" Ladies and gentleman, if this works this year, there will be no turning back. This is the best chance we have, with the popular momentum being what it is, to reign in spending. I don't want to be chicken little, but I don't see how it could be any other way.

46 Oh, for heaven's sake.  I don't want to vote for either of these guys.  I'd go for Hayworth over McCain if it came down to it, though.  It's like the 2008 elections all over again, just in a statewide capacity.

47

It's just a guess but don't we want Senators that would run commercials against this sort of government waste instead of running commercials for them?

Call me crazy.

48 Somewhere, somehow, Gabe will be blamed for this. Just because.

49

HELL YEAH, ALL THE INCUMBENTS HAVE GOTTA GO!

Throw the bums out!

^{Well, all of them 'cept mine.}

50

@40

I concur most wholeheartedly.

51 Anyway we can get Jan Brewer in the Senate, and you guys can keep JD for governor?

52 from the infomercial's website front page OFFICIAL WEBSITE FOR NATIONAL GRANTS CONFERENCES Thanks for visiting; weÂ’re proud of providing free live conferences across America for over 10 years and counting. We have many success stories from our members like this example below: $30,000 Rental Rehabilitation Loan for Low Income Property John received a $30,000 loan at 3% over 7 years and a $4,000 grant for insulation for the property.* - John Vanges Yep, shilling for stuff like this sure seals Hayworth's bona fides. Yes indeed, nothing like running against Big Gubmint while advising people to rely on Big Gubmint at the same time. No confusing message there. "I'm J. D. Hayworth, and I will vote against gubmint giveaway programs, like the one I want you to solicit with the help of my web partner. Have you seen my informercial?" Arizona, YASF.

53
I'm all for sending a message, and I've been in an anti-incumbent mood far longer than it's been fashionable.  But if we're gonna throw out the old guy, shouldn't the new candidate be, like, oh I don't know -- a new and fresh candidate?
Someone with winning ideas?  Someone who isn't a tired nutter?

Hayworth is a re-tread too. 
Replacing a re-tread with a slightly less re-tread doesn't do it for me. 
Yes yes - McCain Feingold is an unforgivable offense.  Still, who can beat the democrat?  Who can do it?   That's all I care about.

54 It looks like this was a 2007 commercial that Hayworth was paid to do when he was not a politician.  Nothing wrong with that. 

55 Dare we ask about the Chiquita banana lady?

All I'll say is  this, my friends, have you seen Juan Valdez lately? Didn't think so.

Posted by: John McCainiac

 

I think that we now have a break in the Exxon Valdez case as well. No coffee for oil!?!

56
Yep, shilling for stuff like this sure seals Hayworth's bona fides. Yes indeed, nothing like running against Big Gubmint while advising people to rely on Big Gubmint at the same time. No confusing message there. "I'm J. D. Hayworth, and I will vote against gubmint giveaway programs, like the one I want you to solicit with the help of my web partner. Have you seen my informercial?"

heh.

57

I gotta go with those who say that this poll asks our preferences, when its the mental state ad sobriety of AZ voters that matters.

 

Also, both candidates suck, for the many reasons stated above.

58 Didn't McCain wanted to buy up all bad mortgages in 2008? Wasn't that giving away "free money"?

59 It looks like this was a 2007 commercial that Hayworth was paid to do when he was not a politician.  Nothing wrong with that. 

Posted by: pity t. fool

 

And this matters why? If he's making money in 2007 on how to 'get stuff' from the government, and now he wants to be elected Senator on a platform of government giving out less stuff? Run this alongside McCains' fence ad and you have a bake-off for the most hypocritical TV appearnace by a nominee.

60 Didn't McCain wanted to buy up all bad mortgages in 2008? Wasn't that giving away "free money"? Another reason Arizona says "WASF." McCain also wanted to bailout the auto companies if I recall correctly. Even Romney wanted to do something similar.

61
But it's okay..  Sometimes the battered woman goes back to the abusive husband.. 

The abusive husband and the drunk, out-of-work boyfriend. 

62

J.D. always appeared a bit of the carnival barker to me, and that was way before I saw this infomercial.

63 J. D. Hayworth wants you to get government grants. He's trying to give you other people's money. But is he down at that danged fence? Does he care about border security as he's talking to some British bint about federal handouts, or is he down at the border like I am, with body armor and IR goggles, looking for the brown people sneaking through the concertina wire? Is he down here packing caseless pulse rifles with laser guides and depleted uranium tips like I am or is he preening his hair in the makeup room of the informercial studio at the cable access channel for Tucson, northside metro? I'm John Fucking McCain, and I'm serious about border security, you fucking white people. Just ask my good friend, Lindsay Fucking Graham.

64 If I was running for Senate and had previously encouraged the unemployed to file for unemployment, as a conservative, should this be held against me? That is how I see this instance.

65 What message would it send to the GOP if McCain lost?

Hopefully, "Stop whoring around for the media in an attempt to be America's Senator".

That goes doubly so for Lindsay Graham, McCain's personal Mini-Me out in South Carolina.

66
So look at the bigger picture.  What message would it send to the GOP if McCain lost?


That JD Hayworth won.

67 JD stresses that it isn't "free money", that it's "your money".  I don't see any problems with this infomercial for him.  'Get back the money the government took from you' is basically what he's saying.  Trendy conservatives would call this a reverse-Alinsky.

I see no problem with this, at all.  This was not someone INSIDE the government pushing money out, but someone outside telling people to take back what they gave and starve some other program of that cash.

68 Hayworth is doing nothing more than what dearly departed Uncle Milton Freidman said many years ago. Just because you oppose a particular government program (and the taxes that go with it) you should oppose using the benefits of the plan? Talk about cutting your nose off in spite of your face. Would you rather take the benefits to try and build an economy, or would you rather sit on the sidelines, bitch, and watch an ACORN-ite take the money and piss it away until you can change the law?

69 f I was running for Senate and had previously encouraged the unemployed to file for unemployment, as a conservative, should this be held against me? Yes, if you ran on eliminating mandatory participation in unemployment taxes... and were paid to sell services designed to wring every possible cent out of unemployment compensation. This gaffe is perfect fodder for the leftards' favorite epithet: Hypocrite! Let's try this one. How about if a politician running on tort reform did an endorsement for one of the ambulance chasers running commercials on TV? Surely not every lawyer is an ambulance chaser and someone in favor of tort reform can also be in favor of hiring lawyers. However, think how that appeals (or not) to an undecided voter.

70 BILLY MAYS HERE TO ENDORSE J.D. HAYWORTH!

71

All you guys out there crack me up. Hayworth actually had/has to, you know, make a living. Unlike his opponent who married into the largest beer distributorship in AZ (a totally protected by state gov't law proprietorship) with the associated millions in income. Would you guys like it better if JD were a lawyer *shudder* and got on the gubmint teat as some B.S. commission member, consultant, advisor, etc.? I guess that would be OK.

Question: If McCain loses, what do you think he would do with all his time? Somehow a Huckabee-esque gig on TV comes to mind, where he could renew his BFF status with the press peoples. And subsequently rag on his party (R) to expose both of his faces. I'd rather he would do that from the outside than the inside for the next 6 years.....

72 Was that Huckabee sitting second from the left?

73 Yes, if you ran on eliminating mandatory participation in unemployment taxes... and were paid to sell services designed to wring every possible cent out of unemployment compensation. I was against the stimulus, should I stop driving on roads?

74 I'm amused at the number of people here who are driven to SUCH distraction by their hatred for McCain that they will stoop to defending the indefensible.  There is nothing defensible about J.D. Hayworth.  Not being John McCain is not enough, because in that situation we're just gonna get Senator Glassman (D-AZ) -- Hayworth is that toxic.

The thing is, all this was already known before this new "FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY!" commercial came out.  I cannot, simply cannot, believe he signed up for this advertisement in opposition to everything the conservative movement theoretically stands for, but there you have it: the man has no integrity whatsoever.  

(And this is much greater level of Judas-like hypocrisy than anything you could nail McCain on, even "build the damn fence" -- Hayward is literally counselling Americans to get addicted to big government's money-teat.  My god, it's like a Catholic priest advising his flock to forsake Jesus Christ and worship Ba'al.)

McCain or bust.  Sorry, folks, but voting Hayworth "even just to send a message" only sends a message that you, well, pretty much don't give a shit about America.  Because anyone willing to send a man like this to Washington, DC -- ESPECIALLY as a conservative and a Republican -- is someone who has forsaken reason and commonsense for spite and vendetta.

75 56 Anyway we can get Jan Brewer in the Senate, and you guys can keep JD for governor?

Posted by: Jean at June 21, 2010 03:08 PM (xMgdu)

No. How many times do I have to point out that Brewer raised our f-ing taxes twice? (ok, one was a vote by the idiots, but she supported it.)  I don't care if she's been on iWon's ass about immigration, she still yanked the carpet out on our incomes.

76 John P. Squibob, Friedman said that? Hm.

The argument fails to consider that given national bankruptcy in the making, the government grants should be abolished. Promoting taking from the public coffers at this point in time is reckless. People start new businesses now re-organizing as non-profits just to suck off the tax teats, as if to legitimize the program by using/abusing it.

Well, at least the voters see Hayworth before the election, so they can hound him in advance if this spells trouble to them.

But to allow McCain to retain office given his absolutely miserable legislative constitutional abuse would be the greater sin by far. No?

77 soulpile

While Brewer served 2003-2009 as Secretary of State of Arizona, she managed to get the state out of the red where her Democrat predecessor left debt, and back into the black by cutting spending and not supporting raised taxes.

WITHOUT PROVIDING THE SUPPOSED LEGISLATIVE BILLS, you want to claim that SHE campaigned to raise taxes and succeeded twice.

Not buying without the facts.

78 AZ Sec. of State Brewer faced a tough primary race against Phoenix Councilman Sal DiCiccio, who attempted to highlight her tenure as a county supervisor by accusing her of raising taxes, after the county had reported an increase in revenue. Brewer responded to the criticism by proclaiming that she had voted to lower the tax rate, and that the county had collected more revenue because of an increase in property valuations. Brewer ultimately won the primary race against DiCiccio.

79 forsaken reason and commonsense for spite and vendetta.
Posted by: Jeff B.

Spite and vendetta? Reference McCain himself, "my friend".

No, I wearied of supporting McCain because he consistently fails to meet my views, and denigrates my conservative views as racist and bigoted. His potus campaign was the last political support he'll get from me.  McCain not only gets progressively spacey and stupid with his mouth, he flips depending on the weather.

Yes, his support for the military funding can be admired. Yet what has he done to fight for servicemen wrongly charged by the Bush/Obama military brass and imprisoned prior to court martial? Nada.

Exactly WHAT HAS MCCAIN ACHIEVED TO DATE to secure Arizona's open border with Mexico?

McCain's legislation:
-limited free speech during elections
-supports all RINO "bipartisan" agenda with Lindsey Graham
-would prohibit nonprescription sales of over the counter drugs, vitamins and supplements
-would grant amnesty to illegal aliens
-would further compound the lack of immigration law enforcement via comprehensive reform package that further distances government from job performance responsibility

80 What is the program he's talking about and how do I get some of  this free  my own money back?

81 My God, if the Republicans were being prison raped and you handed them a gun to defend themselves with they would promptly shoot themselves in the balls.  They just can't help themselves.

All they have to do is say they are going to cut spending, repeal everything President Plunder has done and secure the border and they will win in a landslide.  Yet here we have them acting like they have always acted.

We basically have the choice between a fast acting poison in the Democrats and a slow acting one in the Republicans.  Either way the result is the same. 

Why can't Arizona have a sane candidate like Angle or Brewer run for senator?  Is there a Tea Party candidate on the ballot?

82 God save the Republic from smooth-talking tanned Southern Republicans in shiny suits dripping ooze... ick.... Bring on da Fat Man from N.J.!

83 As much as I HATE to say this, on the "principle" side of things here, I have to go with the Friedmanite argument here. Take the money government stole from you back and use it to actually try to do some economic good. Keep campaigning against the machine that takes it, but it's better than letting it all go to hangers-on, flunkies, junkies and permanent welfare recipients.

That being said, Ben had it in #1 - if McCain wants to use this, he should hire Lesko to play Hayworth's advocate in a TV ad.

Just as long as I don't have to watch it, Lesko is more irritating than Billy Mays was.

84 You guys crack me up with your talk about how Milton Friedman would approve of this but when the Govt follows the plan that he said would have shortened the Great Depression in Monetary History you squeal like your being butt raped.

85 Told ya so.

86

I don't care what she did before - as governor, she raised our taxes.  Prop 100 was supported by her and she raised our income taxes - including making them separate from federal and a straight percentage of our paychecks (which doesn't exactly bother me, except the amounts getting slashed from our pay are now going to be even higher).  I know about this tax raise because I have to implement it on our payroll next week.  G-d forbid I don't know the exact number of the bill she signed on that one.  It wasn't exactly touted like 1070 or Prop 100.

I don't like my taxes raised and I won't vote for someone who raised my taxes.

She'd get my vote if she repealed the increases and lowered our property taxes, which rise every year without much constraint.  Maybe she could  make sure the monies actually go where they belong instead of getting funneled to administrative pockets (as evidenced by the school funding through a previous sales tax increase).

87

That's old news. Several years ago, some guy wrote a book about what J.D. said on that video. Surprisingly, it's true. But an applicant has to meet certain criteria to obtain that money from the government under any one of three similar programs.  The story might be worth further investigation by some of you.

Still, by making those comments, J.D. fell into the trap that Pat Robertson fell into, also, when he stated during his run for the presidency that he knew for a fact that Green Berets had slipped into Cuba and they had discovered that Russian missles were still there, which was true, also, but there was a caveat to that classified information of which Pat Robertson wasn't aware, not that clueless masses gave him his revelations any credence anyway, and, in fact, the clueless morons in the media just ridiculed his revelations, much to the relief of other people in both parties, who would have had egg on their faces if all of the facts had come out.

88 This really sucks. At the presidential election I would not vote for Obama (communist). At the presidential election i would not vote for McCain (communist-lite). So I wrote in a name. Now.. I've moved from Michigan to Arizona and what choice do I have now? Are you telling me we American's can't find just ONE damn decent person to put on a ballot?!?!?!

89

#83 - You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. In your ignorance, you're an ally to the Democrats, and you could be a Democrat.

 When J.D. was a member of the House Of Representatives, he was despised by the Democrats and McCain and he was at the top of their hit list, because he was an extremely effective and extremely articulate advocate for conservative issues. He has always been a good Christian, a good family man,  a loyal Republican and a savvy, hardcore conservative.

But like his buddy, Rush Limbaugh, he is quite a showman, too, and his bravado sometimes goes unappreciated by insecure people, perhaps because he makes them feel stupid. 

90 59 It looks like this was a 2007 commercial that Hayworth was paid to do when he was not a politician.  Nothing wrong with that. 

Posted by: pity t. fool at June 21, 2010 03:09 PM (Sg8sX)

 

^He/she gets it.  Fools here never will. They gave us Mr. Magoo in 2008.

91 Hayworth doesn't stand a chance.  Sure, McCain has his problems, but Hayworth is a total fraud.  He's a big government conservative to McCain's...not quite as big government conservative.  Arizona is a fairly libertarian state so they'll go with the least worst choice and McCain has proven himself, as a Senator at least, fairly competent.  Hayworth was a turd and got voted out of the House for his troubles.

I realize McCain was a shitty candidate for President, but that doesn't mean he lacks any redeeming qualities and it certainly doesn't mean his opponents will automatically be saints.

McCain has this one in the bag.

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