1 Make that: Health Control Delenda Est!

2 Wouldn't it be nice if they showed this much passion and fought this hard all the time?

3 Blah. He still reaches across the aisle or tries to, too much. He'll be back to being a "Gentleman" later today.

4 He did well. This whole thing pisses me off. The repubs need to be focused. Remember this...if Repubs during the Bush years had stayed true to their principles I doubt they would have taken as much of a beating in 2006 and 2008. They were basically dem lite...and that turned off a lot of conservatives and libertarian types. The Repubs have an opportunity now and in Nov 2010. Hopefully this time they will stay true to the concept of smaller government.

5 And if they (the repubs) had not taken as much of a beating in 2006 or 2008....ie we would have had more house members....this damn health bill would not have passed.

6
Hark?
I hear is the sniveling disrespectful assholes like Jard Polis (D- Colo -NOZZLE)- laughing it up in the background.
FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS.

7 Where was he when people were complaining about Pork and spending before the 2006 election?

This was good, but much, much too late.  We have to replace the entire GOP leadership if we are going to make any progress.

8 They need this passion 24/7. Too much is at stake for milqtoast senators.

9 Posted by: LtE113 at March 22, 2010 12:20 PM (3NFq/)

We'll see.

There are times when people reach a point and they realize the old ways don't work, that the world has changed and they can't go on as before.

Based on their actions in this debate, I'm willing to give the GOP the benefit of that doubt. If in the next 6 months they show signs of business as usual, then we're fucked.

Right now, they are the only horse in town and we've got to ride it. It's not like we are foregoing some other option. It's either fight by their side or pack it in.

10 Jard Polis (D- Colo -NOZZLE)- laughing it up in the background.

The Democrats don't even make a good peanut gallery, but I hope they have a good chuckle back in the political wilderness.

11 We have to replace the entire GOP leadership if we are going to make any progress.

Please don't use that word. Not today.

12 Jard Polis (D- Colo -NOZZLE)- laughing it up in the background.

Decorum?  Fuck Decorum.

13 I thought his speech was great.  Wish he'd lay off the spray tan.

14 Boehner is half the reason we are in this position.  Nice speech, but he's no friend of conservatives.

15 Boehner - the headline is spelled wrong.... write like Ace, don't spell like Ace.

16
The peanut gallery (that's us) can hit hard, but our congress critters have to show some amount of respect.  It's tradition.

Assholes like jared polis(D) can be seen and heard on-camera laughing and mocking.  They show nothing but contempt for constituents and opponents.
(I have seen him on C-span)
Low-lives like the naked finger pointer mob boss Rahm  - well, he's just
a political degenerate.  It's not a bad thing when our representatives show respect.  It makes us better.

We are better than the corruptocrats.

17 I don't blame W for trying the compassionate conservative route when Clinton was looking like a success and beat his father. Hopefully, the GOP has learned who their enemy is and that it's not about the issues but power. The fate of our country depends on Republicans finding their balls.

18 I thought his speech was great.  Wish he'd lay off the spray tan

I think he looks FABULOUS!

19 We need to go forward people. There are two trains going out of town, and while I don't always like where the GOP one gets me, at least it sometimes takes me where I want to go. The Dem express never can nor ever will. Focus, If the dems can divide us, they win

20

You mispelled his name.

also we're never going to get anywhere with a house majority leader who has a name that is slang for an erect penis.

21 That degree of passion got them air time on Fox. Don't know if they got air time on the others, probably not but they should have.

That is the only way they will get their message out is by making it something that the news media can not "pass up".

The Repubs must learn how to get their message out regardless of the hostile media. That is what has been killing them forever.

Hell, if nothing else they need to get some George Soros type billionaire from the conservative side to form a news network and be just as proconservative as the rest are procommie.

22 Permissum totus virus ut velieris in limus procedo.

23 So I see attacking our own team is still in fashion.The Dems are the enemy focus your fire at them for christ sakes.

24 You mispelled his name.

Drew's just auditioning for head nurse at County General.

25 @21 Thats right. The media loves a scandal. The GOP needs to shine the light on all the sleazy deals that were cut to pass this thing. We need promises of prosecution, fuck decorum go scortched earth

26

He lost me in the first few seconds when he mentioned "bipartisanship."

Memo to GOP:

SCREW BIPARTISANSHIP, WILL YA?????

Meeting the devil halfway doesn't land you in Heaven.

27 The line of Boehner's speech that lays it out clearly:

"Do not further strike at the heart of this country and this institution with arrogance, for surely you will not strike with impunity."

28
house.gov site is very, very slow... wonder why?

29 Let's try not to bash Boehner for not being the "be all end all" GOPer in days gone by.  We all need to be fighting mad as hell, no attacks.  Maybe, just maybe, those go along to get along's have even opened their eyes to the tyranny facing down this nation.  Blast these mother f*ckers out.  Rush is resolute today, but he's also scaring me with the reality of what has hit us....as if I didn't know, but hearing it from him solidifies it all the more for some reason.

30 Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 22, 2010 12:26 PM (J3CA3)

There's nothing wrong with the word "progress".  Western civilization is based on progress.  Don't let the left trash everything in our language.  They are trying to abuse competition, entrepeneurial, free market, and all sorts of important concepts as they have been doing for decades.  Don't give in to the slime.

31 Day late, dollar short.

32 A peanut gallery is an audience that heckles the performer. The term originated in the days of vaudeville and is a nickname for the cheapest (and ostensibly rowdiest) seats in the theater; the cheapest snack served at the theater would often be peanuts, which the patrons would sometimes throw at the performers on stage to show their disapproval.

Republicans are the minority and the opposition party, but give them credit for treating their opponents respectfully (to a fault even) and presenting good, workable solutions.  Americans were paying close attention to this healthcare bill and opposed it by an overwhelming majority. Part of that was because the Republicans proposed alternatives that did not involve raising taxes on the middle class and fining and/or jailing the poor and unemployed. We are better than the peanut gallery.

33
Hotair has a link to a "repeal it" pledge site.

34 Too little too late. The answer to this mess will not be found in these old quard, status quo (just happy to be here) types. They had their shot and blew it. This is a fight for a new generation, unsullied by bridges to nowhere and all of Tom DeLay generation bull crap. It's not enough to be outraged. We are all outraged. The party needs to present a dynamic and cohesive, front. A task, I regret to say, Michael Steele has been woefully inadequate in fomenting.

35 Love that today the American middle class will have lost their freedom.

Congress wouldn't have this so called health care for themselves or their staff, but we the middle class non union slobs have effectively been buried.

That should be focus...

Congress should be just like us...O said it is the greatest thing ever....sign on congress today.....

36 Trust but fuckin verify!

37

Former life long Dem here. Not only am i not beating up on the GOP, i am on my way to Republican state HQ to volunteer.

38 I feel like punching someone in the face. I suppose I won't get the opportunity, but I'll be on the lookout for bad guys, just in case.

39 Former life long Dem here. Not only am i not beating up on the GOP, i am on my way to Republican state HQ to volunteer. Posted by: ex dem at March 22, 2010 12:39 PM (0cUgO) While your at it, change your affiliation officially

40 @34

Speaking of Michael Steele, woefully inadequate is even woefully inadequate at describing his impotency as the mouthpiece for the RNC. 

41 My ass hurts today, reamed by my gubmint.

42 Rush just said Lindsey Shamnesty is rethinking the whole amnesty deal.  Ya think?  Amnesty will be the next thing the Dims ram down our throats. 

43 Hey Drew...nice post below. But I've lost faith. they're pussies. I want to be proven wrong.

44 I am proud of the House Repubs.  They fought a good fight for being outnumbered.  They held off this monstrosity for a year.  Still hoping the gop senate will get a spine.

45 Dear God.  Rush is talking about how Barky will be going after the military with defense cuts, etc.  I want to go kidnap my kid off his base.

46 Without Bachman, Ryan, Boehner and many others, this fight would have been over months ago.  Do not doubt that the DNC will mount a tremendous effort to get rid of all of the conservatives.  We need to make sure that we contribute to the conservatives campaigns.

47 So you're saying he's pissed off about the 10% tax on tanning?

48 Kicked some ass - my ass.  Isn't this the same clown who sat silent while Bunning stood tall?

Stood silent while the Vitters, Ensign, Sanford, Craig, Foley and Hastert follies went on?

Yeah, baby, lets hear it for the stud Boehner.

49

Rush just said Lindsey Shamnesty is rethinking the whole amnesty deal.

Well, let's hope SOMEONE can do math since the sequence of these pieces of "legislation" are not an accident.

50 Amnesty will be the next thing the Dims ram down our throats.

With the liberal playing of the race card to sell it.

 

51 soon ? you mean next Jan ? I don't think so I

52 Rush just said Lindsey Shamnesty is rethinking the whole amnesty deal.  Ya think?  Amnesty will be the next thing the Dims ram down our throats. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 12:43 PM (UOM4

You could tell that Lady Lindsey realized how much he had screwed himself with his shamnesty treason push by his comments about the health scare, yesterday.  Too late.  Everyone knows what a traitor Grahamnesty is and everyone knows that he is just waiting to put the knife in America's back as soon as he can.  Lindsey's shamnesty push is going to kill McShame's primary, too - as it well should.  They both need to rot in hell.

53

My ass hurts today, reamed by my gubmint.

Don't worry, apparently they'll fix it.

54 Rush is saying that some of our Republican leaders still don't get it.  What in the hell does it take to get through to them?  We need to know exactly who these people are and they must be replaced with true conservatives and patriots. 

There goes my damned blood pressure again. 

55 Michelle Bachmann has more balls than all the repub males combined. Well maybe not Coburn.

56 40 @34

No shit, huh? Whatever credibility the guy had to begin with, he completely lost it around Scozzafava time. I suppose we have to boot his ass and the next time there's a GOP Pres., we'll give him some all-title job in Government to make him look like less of a failure.
Dude's done, soon it'll just be a matter of who replaces him (I hope).

57

also we're never going to get anywhere with a house majority leader who has a name that is slang for an erect penis.

Would you prefer flacid?   I like Boner - easier to fuck with - literally.  It's about the power baby.

Butch Otter, Rick Perry and Haley Barbour and one more gov. that I forgot are having a summit today face to face to come up with a collective plan to challenge this piece of shit in every possible way.  It's not over yet.

58 My ass hurts today, reamed by my gubmint.

Posted by: mbruce at March 22, 2010 12:42 PM (Fr8N6)

How does that change feel, byatches?

If you squeal like a pig, I might just add lube coverage to obamacare.

59

Not for nothing, but we could have had McCain, who would NOT have passed this stupid bill.

Some of you, in your quest to be "more conservative than thou" gave away our countrylast night by not voting for McCain. yeah, fuckers you sure taught us a lesson:" dont' support a moderate conservative or else.....or else we'll get stuck with an ultra liberal." Great lesson there, geniuses.

I blame all you who didn't vote for McCain. Thanks for the "lesson", assholes. Now we are screwed!

I will vote for anyone with an R to keep these Dems out of office and so should YOU!

60 #55  Maybe not Paul Ryan.

61 Listen, I want to get aboard this train, but reassure me that right out of the blocks isn't going to be Gramnesty slobbing all about shamnesty.  That too isn't about compassion, it is about government (to steal part of a line from Rep. Boehner).

62

Give the RINOs hope you'll support them. Keep them on the reservation.

Then, vote the back stabbing bastards out on primary day. Turnabout is fair play. Get smart and ruthless.

63 It's compassion to exploit people for slave wages?  Who knew?

64 You're right, Jane. Forgot about him. He's a keeper.

65 Hey Drew...nice post below. But I've lost faith. they're pussies.

I want to be proven wrong.

Posted by: LtE113 at March 22, 2010 12:44 PM (3NFq/)

    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

The story of the last 5 years unfortunately.

66
I need to know something. Is the Amish exemption still in the bill?

67 It's compassion to exploit people for slave wages?  Who knew?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 22, 2010 12:52 PM (T0NGe)

You serfs just need to know your place. But I am a kind ruler - I'll let you kiss my pinky ring

68 When we are, without question in anyone's eyes, completely bankrupt, broke and totally indebted to China....funding for our wonderful military will be cut to the bare bones.  We will be SITTING DUCKS. 

How could these people live with themselves for what they have done?  Our country is ruined if this ship isn't turned around NOW.  How I weep for the America I grew up in.

69 (Charlie's America Song)
Charlie: IÂ’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Gonna kick some ass in the USA. Gonna climb a mountain, gonna sew a flag, gonna fly on an eagle. IÂ’m gonna kick some butt, gonna drive a big truck. IÂ’m gonna rule this world. IÂ’m gonna kick some ass. IÂ’m gonna rise up, gonna kick a little ass. Rock, flag, and eagle!

If you don't know the TV show, then I can't explain it...

70 How could these people live with themselves for what they have done?  Our country is ruined if this ship isn't turned around NOW.  How I weep for the America I grew up in.

Posted by: Twinks at March 22, 2010 12:55 PM (wRPBa)

How do I live with myself? Two words: I won.

71 If you conservative inbred rednecks would have let me won NY-23, I would have voted against Obamacare...you dolts!! Probably...

72

Not for nothing, but we could have had McCain, who would NOT have passed this stupid bill.

Some of you, in your quest to be "more conservative than thou" gave away our countrylast night by not voting for McCain. yeah, fuckers you sure taught us a lesson:" dont' support a moderate conservative or else.....or else we'll get stuck with an ultra liberal." Great lesson there, geniuses.

Posted by: Frank Enstein at March 22, 2010 12:50 PM (3jR7G)

The fact is that any American would have let this health scare die a natural death 8 months ago, just as ShrillaryCare died and just as Shamnesty died.  This is American legislative tradition for hated legislation.  The only reason the health scare kept being resurrected and running in our faces was because we have an ineligible Indonesian in the WHite House who holds us, our systems, and our institutions in utter contempt.  It was only because of The Precedent and his un-American nature that this was pushed far beyond reason.  Even if Shrillary had become President, she would have given up on health scare around the time of the Town Halls, if not even earlier.

Many of us tried to warn people about what sort of fire the US was toying with in considering an ineligible third worlder for Chief Executive.  The fact that the Indonesian Imbecile had no connections to American culture (you could tell by his strange English, his seeming lack of understanding of normal American expressions, and his weird concepts of history) was exactly the problem that the Founders tried to avert with the 'natural born citizen' clause. 

But, too many conservatives refused to understand this and, instead, argued to intentionally ignore the Constitution.  Anyone with a brain knew that this was what we were going to get. The only surprise was that the dems all ended jumping in for the suicide bombing with their Indonesian Imbecile.

The Precedent's purpose with pushing the health scare, as I have been saying again and again, was never really about passing the legislation.  He didn't care.  That's why he let Congress write whatever they wanted.  All the Inodesian Imbecile wanted was to push the system to failure with his breaking of all legislative taboos, traditions, and rules in the process.  This health scare was a suicide bomb from the start, and one that would only have been done by one with the most tenuous connections to American culture.

73 also we're never going to get anywhere with a house majority leader who has a name that is slang for an erect penis.

He pronounces it "Bay-ner."

74
No. I'm done eating shit Sandwiches.

The FIRST thing we need to do is wrest control of the Republican Party from the moderates. We'll only win if Conservatives are in control. The mods can come along for the ride, if they want. But the leadership must be of the Conservatives.

75 How could these people live with themselves for what they have done?

These commie wannabes think they'll be spared when the Chinese force our hand. Good luck with that one, idiots.

76 Let's just sift the RINO turds out of the cat sand and we'll be cool with GOP. That's right Lindsay, Lamar, and Bob - I'm looking right at you.

77 59 I voted for Mac for this very reason. However, the time for bi-partisan compromise is over. The country is going down unless we radically change course. Nibbling at the edges and taking the least offensive progressive option is no longer gonna cut it. The true lesson of last night is what can be accomplished when leaders have the balls to go all in. We have the people. We have the constitution. We have the facts. We must stop cowing to popular media and go big. It's not enough to turn back health care. We must fight to roll back every progressive con of the past 100 years.

78 Is FOX news honest to gawd giving a tee-vee blow-job to AARP for trying to get old people back into the work force in this economy?

AARP???

After last night?

AARP fucking helped design this atrocity!

Gawd, I expected to see AARP offices firebombed before ACORN offices, in this hot mess.

79 It's compassion to exploit people for slave wages?  Who knew?

Let me be clear, I'm, uh, giving, uh, under-opportunitied people your *pause for applause* slave wages, that's the, uh, compassionate part. 

80 Posted by: Frank Enstein at March 22, 2010 12:50 PM (3jR7G)

And as far as blaming anyone for McShame's pathetic showing, he was the one who urged people over and over that "You don't have to worry about Barack Obama as Precedent."

McShame intentionally chased away everyone he could and he also refused to stand up for Constitutional eligibility (even though he was forced to prove his).  Further, McShame couldn't even find the integrity to stand up for his un-Constitutional McCain-Feingold, while the Indonesian Imbecile made a mockery of campaign finance with his acceptance of anonymous donations - an impeachable crime.  But, McShame never said one word about it.  Not a one.  Ever.

81 The mods can come along for the ride, if they want. But the leadership must be of the Conservatives.

Agreed.

A fair definition of moderate would be the complete repeal of Obama's agenda - Obamacare, Spendulous, Cap n' Tax, etc.

Anyone who supports Obamacare is a National Socialist, and can get the hell out of the Rep party...

82

67
I need to know something. Is the Amish exemption still in the bill?

Posted by: this is Carlton, the doorman at March 22, 2010 12:54 PM (Uf4aV)

I don't know, but the Islam exemption is:

Health insurance is going to be compulsory for all companies and associations in our country. The insurance company will not have direct relationship with companies or associations, as there will be brokers in between, this is also compulsory.

The question is: What is the ruling on working for these brokers? Its role is basically introducing offers to companies and individuals and dealing with claims.

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly: Health insurance is haraam like other types of commercial insurance, because it is based on ambiguity, gambling and riba (usury). This is what is stated in fatwas by the senior scholars. See the answer to question no. 39474 and 4210.

In Fataawa al-Lajnah al-DaaÂ’imah (15/277) there is a quotation of a statement of the Council of Senior Scholars concerning the prohibition on insurance and why it is haraam:

1. Commercial insurance contracts are transactions based on probability and extreme ambiguity, because the customer cannot know at the time of signing the contract what he will give or take.

[ . . .]

-----------

18 (5) EXEMPTIONS FROM INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

—In the case of an individual who is seeking an exemption certificate under section 1311(d)(4)(H) from any requirement or penalty imposed by section 5000A, the following information:

(A) In the case of an individual seeking exemption based on the individualÂ’s status as a member of an exempt religious sect or division, as a member of a health care sharing ministry, as an Indian, or as an individual eligible for a hardship exemption, such information as the Secretary shall prescribe.

83 70 BEST SHOW ON TV! (and first laugh I've had today. Thank you!)

84 How am I resisting the urge to run out to my front yard and scream "Fuck You" at the top of my lungs right now right here in the middle of my placid residential neighborhood?
I want to scream it AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

85

Oops! -- here's a link to the Islamic exception.

86 I won't even watch Fox today.  After Geraldo's breathless praise of Hellcare last night, I'm done even with them.  No TV for me for a while.  It can only help my blood pressure.

87 there's more where that came from.

88

As someone mentioned above, you fight with the team you have, not the team you wish you had.  Enough with the third party stuff, for all of his third party stuff Ron Paul is still a registered republican.  We need to join together with everyone on the center right and defeat the socialists. 

Purity tests can be conducted once the country has been retaken and the commies kicked out of their current positions in the white house and congressional majority & leadership.

We have a narrow window that will be closing fast.  Once the population is securely attached to the govt healthcare drug, it'll be like trying to take the drugs away from a crackwhore junkie, it will never happen.

Unite and fight!

89 Is the Amish exemption still in the bill?

If so, I plan on becoming really really really Amish.

Hey, we're Alextopia Amish.  We totally have server farms.  And punch people.  It's like Ohio Amish with more electricity.

90

Heat up the tar vats and gather up the goose feathers. To paraphrase Tom Waits, "the pitchforks are on fire..."

91 "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. You cannot multiply wealth by... dividing it!" Dr. Adrian Rogers (1931-2005)

92

you go to war with the opposition party you have

We're not an opposition party.  We are the bipartisan party, because that is what most Americans want.

93 Speeches are nice, but don't put my hard-earned and too-easily-stolen money back in my wallet. Horse out of the barn, and all that. We need representatives who will fight and *do what it takes*, rather than look so wonderful making a speech from the loser's bench. I don't think that when any of us are sitting in longer lines, waiting for worse care, and paying more for it, that Mr. Boner's speech will keep us warm or cure us of our ills. A little more money in the pocket, and a health care system unencumbered by the death-yoke of government might have. Fuck 'em all. Reboot.

94 **changing socks**

95  Pursue every avenue of peaceful resolution available to you.

 In the end, there is only one course of events that has ever defeated tyrants and dictators.
 
 Hope for peace. Work for peace.

 Prepare for war.

 Be prepared to fight for your freedom, or prepare to see your loved ones enslaved under the watchful eyes of their masters.
 

96
Like I said earlier, we don't have the luxury of being Reagan-type happy warriors.

We're facing tyranny. Our political enemies are bona fide enemies of We The People and our glorious Republic. The Democrats no longer play by the rules, and they change the rules as they go along.

We no longer have the luxury of pleasantries and niceties are over. We cannot tolerate ANYONE in our party who still believe we can 'work' with Democrats. The Democrats have no interest in co-existing with the Republican party.

97

Oh, and...

 

http://tinyurl.com/ydaamxj

98 fighting against majorities and the state-run media cannot be easy. I give them credit for a good fight. like someone said above, it would have been over a long time ago, but for the fight they put up. just what more, exactly, did you expect them to do?

99 Jane, me too.  Can't, won't watch.  I'll tune into Beck, but that's it.  If I thought hearing and seeing Pelousy & Obama made me sick before, the very act of even typing their name makes me want to engage in violent behavior directed right at their fucking communist faces.

Rush is big-time talking about amnesty being rammed through next.  It's coming as sure as Pelousy's next face lift (my comment, not his).

100 The Orange Man lost last night and he said they did not have the votes to pass it And I don;t care what else they pass as long as I get to keep my gun!

101 We do need to support these guys. I have a feeling they are finally understanding what we are up against. All Republicans voted against this, and we managed to peel off some Dems - just not enough. Only the historic treachery of Stupak prevented a monumental defeat of Obama. We can all be thankful that this treachery did not come from one of our own. I want to thank them all.

102 We need representatives who will fight and *do what it takes*, rather than look so wonderful making a speech from the loser's bench.

What did you want them to do?

103
Ed Anger: interesting info.

I certainly don't want to be a muslim -- but if they're exempt, so am I. I'd rather pretend to be Amish. And if I have to, I'll become a citizen of Amish Alextopia^tm, but I don't wanna because I think she only let's the residents eat tofu and sleep on futons.

104

The 41 republicans in the senate need to stick together!  No more bi-partisanship between now and next January when the (hopefully) republican majorities are sworn into the house & senate.

Filibuster everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

105 Shamnesty next.  Cutting funding to the military to give free shit to layabouts to follow.

106

We need to start fighting these jerks now. I just read (skimmed) the reconcilliation bill and basically nothing happens until 2014. I was wrong in an earlier post regarding pre existing conditions.

1. Pre existing condition discrimination only kicks in for children under this bill. In most states this was already illegal and in all states it's illegal if you have employer insurance already both for you and your family.

With the new bill if you have a pre existing condition and no insurance you are still screwed until 2014. Drive that into your lib friends tiny little brains.

2. Insurance subsidies don't kick in until 2014. So the 32,000,000 uninsured the dems crow about will continue to go without insurance for at least 4 more years. Think of all the dead people dems are causing by this.

3. Taxes, all the taxes start this year except the tax on insurance plans and it's not just for the rich. Taxes on medical devices, drugs and capital gains go into effect this year. Medical devices and drugs affect everyone regardless of your income.

4. Capital Gains increases start this year on people individuals making over $200,000 and couples over $250,000. This may sound like alot but it's not if you own your home and sell it and have a job. You will be taxes 3.8% on all income over $200,000 including any profit on the sale of your home.

107

*rummages furiously through the closet*

Hot damn! I found it! This old T-shirt. Look.

"Question Authority"

108 The "I will not comply" page on FaceBook just passed 10,000 members!

109 What did you want them to do? Not do the stupid things that put them into minority status. Find some dirt on prospective Yes votes and twist arms. Motion to commit. The Endless Amendment train potentially available for reconcilliation bills. Their reaction is akin to, "We've been raped by the serial rapist, again, and next time, we're gonna report it to the police. Just watch us!" Fat lotta good that does us, who also got raped yesterday. Again.

110 We need to give these guys a chance, a closely monitored and enforced chance but looking back accomplishes nothing. They may break our hearts (and our country) in the end but right now we hang together or hang separately.

Laser-like in its accuracy.  Republicans have 2010 and 2012 to get it right.  If they don't, then I'm finished with them.  And save the excuses that this will put the Dems back in power.

With McCain, Romney, Graham and Snow/Collins, who needs Republicans?

It's still a death by the Socialism--just slower.

111 'll become a citizen of Amish Alextopia^tm, but I don't wanna because I think she only let's the residents eat tofu veal from the ones who were kept in the really small stalls and sleep on futons hobofilled mattresses

There.  FIFY.

Amish Alextopia is awesome, as long as you remember that I plan on being rather Red Queen in my decision making process. 

112 You will be taxes 3.8% on all income over $200,000 including any profit on the sale of your home.

So everyone in San Fransisco is basically fucked.  I'm shockingly okay with that.

113

"also we're never going to get anywhere with a house majority leader who has a name that is slang for an erect penis."

Yes, my stepdaughter got a nice giggle out of my cross-house conversation with the wife last night.

"C'mere, you've gotta see this!"
"What?"
"Boehner's up!"

114 74 also we're never going to get anywhere with a house majority leader who has a name that is slang for an erect penis.

He pronounces it "Bay-ner."
Posted by: HeatherRadish

Well of course he does. And he also pronounces his first name Azwepay (Asswipe)

115 kansas - he named his son "Hugh."

116

As of today I'm willing to give the nod to the Republicans -- with a pretty stiff warning: you work for us.

Not at all happy about the way yesterday turned out, but I suppose the silver lining is that now there is at least more clarity of purpose and something to rally around.  Anyone who voted for this in my state is out -- any Dem who didn't vote for it gets a partial reprieve with probation; as for the state and local -- you belong to the party who created this, you're out too; I don't care if you had nothing to do with health care -- you're guilty by association. I will do my best to destroy the party that destroyed my country; if that means aligning with the Republicans I don't care; if that means supporting the right to lifers from here on out, well, I've been having serious issues with the pro choice folks for a while now anyway and this just sealed it; if I piss off old friends and collegues, so what -- if they challenge me, I'll do my best to crush them.  Consequences can be a bitch.

117 you go to war with the opposition party you have,

3rd party = fail

and insist on an actual conservative as the nominee in 2012

_{I reserve the right to throw bricks}

118
kids, kids, you cannot deny Obama sounds great. Yes, I hate his voice and every single word that passes his 'I look like I just ate a grape popsice' lips. But I can't deny reality -- the man has been blessed with a great voice box.

119 >kids, kids, you cannot deny Obama sounds great.

Hitler was an exciting speaker.

Charles Manson was a hammer-slicing charmer.

WTF!!??

120 119  For some odd reason he does not, and never did, give me a tingle...so I don't copy what you're saying here.

121

I keep enjoying the soundbites, and repeated notion, that this Congress can now "finally" enter the hallow halls of history, and take their seat next to that other Congress (pop quiz:  who was Speaker?  ...) that passed Social Security.

Because, you see how popular Social Security is right now.  Good ol', solvent, self-sustaining, not-at-all-a-drain-on-soecity Social Security.

122

Hallowed.  E.  D.  Hallowed.

As opposed to the hollowed head of Madam Palomino.  Hollow.

123 Also, society.  My fingers : my brain :: Congress : the American public.

124
you're taking me out of context!

^{I posted that comment in the wrong thread.}

125 To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, you go to war with the opposition party you have,....

Not with the Republican Party in it's current condition.

126 Boehner is awesome. Once again I am proud he is my representative. He's doing a great job of keeping the Republican House on target. Ultimately though, there were not enough Republlicans present, and the Blue Dawgs were open to "deals" from the White House. So the answer to our problem is....more Republicans! (And don't give me that Eeyore grousing about how the Republicans are no good. It's either Republicans in control of Congress in 2011, or 2-4 more years of Obaka' & Pelosi & Reid's crew in charge. YOU decide who's more likely to do good by the nation...or at least less harm.)

127 I agree that we should "return comedy to the nation".  Who wouldn't agree with that?  The smugness of John Stewart/PC humor isn't humorous any more.  Bring us other humor.  Feed our starving humor-deprived bellies!

128 Why are people saying we need to toss Boehner, Ryan, & Cantor? Have you all actually been watching anything the last few months???

129 Like I said in a previous thread.  I'd do John Boehner on the floor of the House in front of God and everyone.
'nuf said.

130 I'm sorry, but the GOP has a little more ways to go to regain its honor. I sincerely hope they win a majority this fall--but only so they can repeal the recently passed bill. After that, I wish them nothing.

Nor do I think that will I actively assist in their reclaiming a position of distinction which they do not honestly yet deserve, for it will merely encourage them. This is not to mean I will necessarily sit on the sidelines--I will express my views to my fellow citizens on how I think the Republic should be best organized, and in that tilling of the ground perhaps a few cast GOP seeds may sprout. But as far as lending a hand to this soiled and stained party--no, a thousand times, no. For what happened yesterday could have been avoided, and if perhaps we are forced not to get into recriminations that would prevent the work from going forward, neither are we forced to hail those who brought us to these steps as paragons.

The role for the current GOP is to repair the damage, and then retire from the scene. This will of course not happen, which means we will continue this ying-yang for some time to come until it does. 

131 RE Paul Ryan:

The man has an impressive resume, as well. But how can you toss a man who's written his own new plan for America, a man who dissected the health bill & called out the Precedent @ the health care summit, the man who forced the CBO to re-score Hell Care, the man who went before the House Rules Committee & debated them solo for 30min?

Anyone who thinks this man isn't good enough is delusional, or just hasn't been listening. I'm not saying he should become president tomorrow, but he's fought for us every step of the way. He deserves our thanks, not our scorn. I'm disgusted that some think the opposite. 

132

"Both sides are ordered to remember the dignity of the House"

teh funny

133 Rahm is having a fake cock sized for Boehner's starfish at this very moment. If the Republicans had guts, they'd resign en masse.

134

You act...um....like this is...um, ah...some kind of....er....bolsehviktakeover!!!!

 

They said...that...we'd kill gramma!

They said...that...we can't afford this!

They said...that...I'm a socialist!!!!

 

What...are they..saying now? YES WE CAN!

135 Obama sounds great? If you like the sound of your fingernails dragging across a chalk board maybe. What is this sounds great, great orator shit?  Jesus.

136

Personally, I like the idea of billboards around the country.  Also, donating to our own-the truly conservative Repubs only-because Nancy has, no doubt, put targets on them, and donating to the opposition of any Dem who voted yes.

 

Hillbuzz pointed out that Stupak spelled backwards is Kaput.

137 Hey, if your pissed, don't just sit here and bitch! Last week i heard steve King on Hannity , said we need to storm the capital! Man that gave me shivers. Two days later, i was on a bus with 54 fellow Tea Party members. Never been to Washington, and NEVER protested before. We gave them hell! Now if we can get 60,000- 80,000 together in 24 hrs? Can you imagine if everyone reading this , joined or gave money? We could storm the whole Capital with 3,000,000 + and shut the damn place down! Amnesty is next. Get off your ass , and join! Or give to a local tea party group. Please, I saw wht they can do, and  I saw the reaction on the faces of the scum who were voting yes on this crap. (Plus i got a hug and a kiss from Michele Bachman) bonus!  http://tinyurl.com/qryvzt
We need to assist the good Repubs,and elect conservatives! Thanks.

138 Nancy! Nancy! The Oval Office bathroom is out of toilet paper. Do you have an extra copy of the Constitution I can wipe my ass with?

139 Of course, David Frum will say that Boehner should have offered to fellate Obama on pay per view as a peace offering and deficit reduction measure.

140 Don't get down on the House Republicans.  Not a single one of them voted for this crap sandwich.  Let's all say it: we need to kick the Dems out and get some fresh blood in there.

141  cheap abercrombie

142 He's right.  For Republicans, it has not been about health care but about government.  They don't like not having control of the government and they definitely don't like any PR victories for a government that's not in Republican hands. 

For Dems and those without Health Care, it's definitely been largely about Health Care.

143 We are better than the peanut gallery.



Hahahah.  Yes.  Yelling BABY KILLER makes you better than the peanut gallery.

144 I think what you meant to say is "John Boehner is an ass".

Moron.

145 John Boehner. Proof positive that America still hires the handicapped.

146 They don't like not having control of the government and they definitely don't like any PR victories for a government that's not in Republican hands.