1
Exactly!

2
little ministers of propaganda

3 "He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out." But, but, but ...... That'd be a double standard.

4 Why do you say right wingers have to hide their opinions, Ace of Spades?

5 Journolist is nothing more than a social networking mechanism for libtard media people.

They didn't so anything on there any different than they do at work around the water cooler and coffee pots.

That is the sad thing.

6

 

Will the cure involve any cowbell?

7


Is it safe ?

8 waste hours of their precious lives in gigglefests

Wait?  What?

9 Here in Seattle, most social settings are like J-List.... it is just assumed you believe Bush = Hitler.  When people find out you are not a hard core lefty, they spit and stutter and have no idea what to say.  If you calmly explain your reason for thinking the way you do, they have no idea how to respond because they have never had to.

10 I can't speak for other conservatives in the media, but the sense I also got from the few conservatives I knew in news was that their opinion was theirs alone- not something that required affirmation from colleagues. For my part, the notion of collectively opining on something seemed intellectually lazy- the conversations I'd get into with other conservatives usually were more along the lines of, "Did you see what so-and-so wrote? What'd you think of that?" I suppose it was more of a discussion and less of a coordination.

11 It's just nice to know that what we thought was true all along really was true and when they scream Right Wing Conspiracy we can scream JournoList!  Maybe it's petty, but it makes me feel good!

12 T-bone- Within the halls of academia and certainly in media, the distrust and hatred of all things right of center is palpable. Moderate Democrats (I know, oxymoron) are openly spoken of by their colleagues as right-wing and loudly denounced in meetings. I've seen that happen a lot.

13 Symptom?

Disease?

Just so long as Sylvester Stallone is the cure.

14 So come up to the lab
And see what's on the slab
I see you shiver with antici...pation
But maybe the rain
Isn't really to blame
So I'll remove the cause
But not the symptom

15 On a more fundamental level, there's no JournoList on the right because there's a bedrock cultural difference at work:  right-wingers tend to be individualists and left-wingers tend to be collectivists.  So getting right-wingers to coordinate is akin to cat-herding, while getting left-wingers to coordinate is just something they already do naturally.  Like sheep.

16 _{Kurtz to Talk 'Journolist' on 'The Situation Room'}

17

Hey I saw this posted on Hot Air an hour ago...

You scheming right wing teabaggers.  Quit crafting your message on bigotlist and come up with your own ideas!

18 It's just nice to know that what we thought was true all along really was true and when they scream Right Wing Conspiracy we can scream JournoList!

Everything they accuse you of they're doing themselves...

How often was Chimpy McHitlerboosh accused of suppresing speech of those who disagreed?  Turned out to be their game plan.

19 15 On a more fundamental level, there's no JournoList on the right because there's a bedrock cultural difference at work:  right-wingers tend to be individualists and left-wingers tend to be collectivists.  So getting right-wingers to coordinate is akin to cat-herding, while getting left-wingers to coordinate is just something they already do naturally.  Like sheep.

Posted by: Alan Smithee at July 23, 2010 04:47 PM (F7GbV)

There were no conservatives (let alone right-wingers) on JournoList because they WERE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED.

20 The biggest difference between Conservatives and Progressives is this:

Conservatives look outside their windows and notice it's raining

Progressives turn on "The Weather Channel" and try to figure out if it's raining.

-

So, if a bunch of Conservatives end up with the same basic observation - "Hey, it's raining" - it's not a conspiracy or an occurence of group-think.

With Progressives, it's the opposite -  you get a group of people saying, basically, "I'm reliably informed that it's not raining" in chorus.

21 It may be more than that the atmosphere for such a list is more toxic for conservatives ... perhaps conservatives are actually more free thinking by nature.  The only way you get sold out to Marxism is if you are coerced to think others should control your life.

Of course the Marxists actually feel THEY should control other (stupid) people, not that they should ever end up under control.  But that is their inner feelings of inadequacy speaking ... which is why they love being in their cult, where they are all "superior", but only have to repeat what they are told.

22 I'm still waiting for all that wacky sports talk to emerge.

23 And this was a f|_|cking bomb dropping in Beaver Cleaverville!
For a few seconds this place was Armageddon!
There was a fire fight!

Oh, no, just wishful thinking. Going back to my office to eat some donuts.

24
JournoList - where the 4th Estate becomes the 5th Column.

25 There were no conservatives (let alone right-wingers) on JournoList because they WERE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED.

Yes.  But there's no equivalent on the right--excluding proggs, planning how to smear Obama with lies because his vaj scares us, re-inforcing the lockstep meme du jour, etc--because the blogs and magazines do their own thing...and because disagreeing with another blog or magazine doesn't get you shunned by other blogs or magazines (well...except for blogs-I-won't-name that experience psychotic meltdown, but that's kinda a special case).

26

18 HR,

 

yup they are in fact metally ill in their actions and every criticism of Bush on method was simply a "hey we should be the ones doing that" not a whine on principle

27 Similarly, Obama is not the disease, he's the symptom.

28 But there's no equivalent on the right.

29 The biggest difference between Conservatives and Progressives is this:

Conservatives look outside their windows and notice it's raining

Progressives turn on "The Weather Channel" and try to figure out if it's raining....and then lobby for a new gov't program to distribute precipitation equally throughout the land, and distribute information about precipitation to *insert race/class* households because the people living in those households are too stupid to discern if it's raining without a pamphlet written in 17 languages, and then congratulate themselves on how much they care.

30 You know why there's no right-wing JournoList? Because right wingers have to hide their opinions and do not dare risk venturing to offer them in written, permanent form like this.

Also, because if you had 400 "conservatives" on one list you'd have at least 800 arguments and 50 "mavericks" willing to go public to screw the others...

Sometimes I almost admire the left's ability to groupthink...

31 This whole episode validates the notion that it doesn't matter which paper you read, the content is all the same anyway.  It is all a product of groupthink and devoid of original thought and insight.

I am not sure I *want* an equivalent on the right.   Actually, since there are so few newspapers on the right, I am not sure they could if they wanted to.  There is also no equivalent on the right of Tides Foundation which is designed to be a donation proxy in order to hide who is actually donating to various astroturf organizations.  And there is no equal to Fenton Communications which keeps all the "progressive" astroturf operations on message and coordinated.

32

also the reason we on the right don't get to play the same games is we are not as ruthless with the boycott(it goes against most of our beliefs) and the libs whine better to corporate....

we need to decide how hard to fight together and then go together to get it done.

33 Good stuff, all the way from "Jonah Goldberg" to "..emails leaked out."

34 You want standards! We have twice as many standards as you!

35 Conservatives exchange ideas in the open, as for instance in newspaper columns and on blogs like this one.

That's what's so newsworthy about JournoList: the assumed collusion of Leftist "journalists" is now there in black and white for all to see.  Until now, it was possible for those "journalists" to scoff at the idea that there was such a thing as Leftist bias in the media, and the only proofs that could be offered of such bias were surveys of journalists' party registration or compilations of audio/video clips showing how they all used the same talking points or occasional admissions in public appearances that individual editors or reporters had a liberal viewpoint.

If Ford, GM and Chrysler managers all met in secret to coordinate the features to offer on their cars and the prices to charge for them, they'd be hauled up on charges of collusion in restraint of trade.  When journalists met in secret to coordinate the news they will report and how to spin it, it's a collusion that's just as pernicious: collusion in restraint of truth.

36 If Journolist is the symptom, the only cure is more pudding. You know what for. I never thought I'd say, Tucker you magnificent bastard. Somewhere, from the darkest pits of evil, the Dark Lord Cheney smiles; a subtle laughter barely audible over the sound of his cold, mechanical heart.

37 If you calmly explain your reason for thinking the way you do, they have no idea how to respond because they have never had to.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at July 23, 2010 04:40 PM (C2//T)

/Thoughts

Is he a racist? No...doesn't appear be...

NAZI? Crazed Fundamentalist? Idiot? No. 

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

/Speaking

So you must hate black people right?

38 Wait a second - again

Who was the guy from RedState who got canned from his journalist gig after revelations of his blog writings came out that he did under some dumbass pseudonymous Latin name and The Left went all bat-shit crazy.

It was for the WaPo, iirc.

.i

39
HeatherCabbage reminds me of Tim Robbins' nonsense from 2003.

Wouldn't it be funny if we found out the cry of "a chill wind" was a coordinated effort by the Regressive Moonbats in the media and Hollywood?

40 But then again, those are some bold claims.

41 So, about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, uh, we just thought it was a really great idea.

42 It's not that a bunch of nothings waste hours of their precious lives in email gigglefests with their fellow nothings.

Yeah, hahahahahaHAHAHAHA!  You tell em, Ace!

Hey, wait a minute...

43 This is stressing me out. I need a relaxing massage.

44

42,

we all have our guilty pleasures....PLUS I got to see julie newmar

45 Will somebody set me free!

46 The biggest difference between Conservatives and Progressives is this:

Conservatives look outside their windows and notice it's raining

Progressives turn on "The Weather Channel" and try to figure out if it's raining....and then lobby for a new gov't program to distribute precipitation equally throughout the land, and distribute information about precipitation to *insert race/class* households because the people living in those households are too stupid to discern if it's raining without a pamphlet written in 17 languages, and then congratulate themselves on how much they care.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 23, 2010 04:58 PM (Ix+Uo)

Conservatives look out the window and see that it's raining, and put on their galoshes and raincoats.

Progressives look out the window and see that it's raining, and try to figure out who the rain helps and hurts politically.  Depending on the answer, they call a meeting to decide whether to hold a rally to demand that the Government take control of all private industry in order to stop the global warming that is going to drown us all, or to contact all of the media to demand that they stop spreading the lies in their weather reports because obviously there is no precipitation or cloudiness interfering with the production of green solar energy and anyone who says that there is must be a pawn of globalized corporatism.

47

*snicker*

I'd bet a good portion of AoS commenters shop at CostCo

48

45 Al's Second Chakra,

"present!"

49 If anything, I'm surprised how unintelligent and crude are supposed elites really are. Didn't Ezra Klien graduate from an Ivy League? They didn't think that this would, oh, get out? They come off as vapid whiney little bitches. Its like a shitty frat for Betas (or Charlies) without the awesomeness of Booger. Go Tri Lams! Exit question: Time to bring down the Ivys? Maybe the most overhyped institutions in America.

50 Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out.

I wish there was a free flowing blog in which they could post and coordinate behind various humorous aliases and witty banter about hobos, busty lesbians, this one gay blogger, and longbows..

51

46 Stueic,

and the good news is that on any sort of an even semi-level battlefield that lets us get inside their OODA loop....

 

the bad news is between the Grahams and the biased press there is no even semi-balanced playing field in US politics.

52 Goldberg's point in this piece is good (though the "conspiracy" strawman he slaps at is the left's, and he's stupid to adopt it), but conservatives are rushing to send out their summings-up re: JournoList before the story is done. What does Carlson still have? You don't know.

Lacking the left's outlets and audience for eternal revision, you guys shouldn't do that. Maybe you need an email list or something.

53 Exit question: Time to bring down the Ivys? Maybe the most overhyped institutions in America.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 23, 2010 05:08 PM (79BNz)

Actually, they are all about making connections now. If you learn something other then leftist pablum it is an accident.

54

29 The biggest difference between Conservatives and Progressives is this:

Conservatives look outside their windows and notice it's raining

...and progressives blame Booooosh

55

You know why there's no right-wing JournoList? Because right wingers have to hide their opinions and do not dare risk venturing to offer them in written, permanent form like this.

And that is why this, and other blogs are so important.  Even when we can't seem to get along. 

The right, or better, the individuals on the right lost their voices years ago.  It was taught out of them and quite frankly it was worked out of them.  I say it was worked out of them people on the right strive.  They strive to succeed.  The ones who have succeeded still remember what it was to strive.  And the ones who haven't succeeded want at least the opportunity to succeed either for themselves or their children.

And they see that opportunity being taken from them either in the form of taxes, debt (taxing debt), or the slavery of entitlement.

The right is getting its voice back.  Sometimes that voice will be angry and sometimes it will be a voice of reason seeking to persuade.

In the end, if we succeed in relearning and mastering our rhetoric, our differences will work themselves out.

56

50 jean,

it's why AoS is brilliant with its "registration"....seriously a moonbat would have to try HARD to reverse engineer who we are.

57 @50 You forgot val-u-rite. Difference is none of us (I think) are charged with relaying information to the public under the auspices of objectability.

58 BUt having no coordination on the right only proves there is coordination on the right...or something.

59 53 Exit question: Time to bring down the Ivys? Maybe the most overhyped institutions in America. Posted by: Jollyroger at July 23, 2010 05:08 PM (79BNz) Actually, they are all about making connections now. If you learn something other then leftist pablum it is an accident. Posted by: 18-1 at July 23, 2010 05:10 PM (bgcml) True, I'll still take that as a yes.

60 I get all this.  But how do Palin's manifold lies fit in here?

61

Sometimes I admire the left's ability to groupthink and stick to a message, then I realize it's because they're all mindless drones and I feel bad for them.

62 I get all this.  But how do Palin's manifold lies fit in here?

Posted by: Obstetrician-General Sir Andrew S. Sullivan, Esq., O.B.E., W.T.F. at July 23, 2010 05:13 PM (mAm+G)

Yeah, I can't stand that Palin-Steele guy either.

63 Two Progressives were hiking through the woods and came across a set of tracks.

"Oh, look," said the First Progressive, "rabbit tracks!  We'll get to see adorable fluffy bunnies!"

"No, those are bear tracks," said the Second Progressive.  "We should be respectful and cautious, for it might be a female with a cub, and she could misinterpret our presence here as hostile."

"Silly," retorted the First Progressive, "don't you think I know rabbit tracks when I see them?"

"I guess you don't know much," snarled the Second Progressive, "if you can't tell rabbit tracks from bear tracks."

Just then a Conservative hunter came along, saw the two Progressives arguing, and said, "Hey, fellas, you might want to keep moving."

The two Progressives turned on the hunter and screamed, "Mind your own business, you Fascist animal-murderer!  At least we're out here enjoying pristine nature peacefully, not raping it with firearms and bloodshed like you!"

"Suit yourselves," said the Conservative, and continued down the trail.

He was about a quarter of a mile away when the train ran over the Progressives.

64
Here's a little Friday afternoon trivia for you.

Name the first instance of the irrational habit of blaming Bush for things he could not have possibly caused. I think I know it. Go ahead, take a guess.

^{*besides 9/11, something more specific}

65 Also, because if you had 400 "conservatives" on one list you'd have at least 800 arguments and 50 "mavericks" willing to go public to screw the others...

Sometimes I almost admire the left's ability to groupthink...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 23, 2010 05:00 PM (bgcml)

+1. "Conservatives" rarely have message discipline.

66 Here's a little Friday afternoon trivia for you.

Name the first instance of the irrational habit of blaming Bush for things he could not have possibly caused. I think I know it. Go ahead, take a guess.




The increase in shark attacks in August 2001?

67
^{*besides 9/11, something more specific}

Posted by: Steele McBoner, the head of the GOP at July 23, 2010 05:16 PM (uFokq)

When Bush considered removing the last minute water restrictions that Clinton had imposed his last week in office, I heard many liberals accusing him of putting lead in drinking water...

68 It all comes down to this:  Conservatives think Liberals are wrong.   Liberals think Conservatives are evil.

69 You know why there's no right-wing JournoList? Because right wingers have to hide their opinions and do not dare risk venturing to offer them in written, permanent form like this.

Amen. 

70 Will somebody set me free!

Posted by: Al's Second Chakra at July 23, 2010 05:08 PM (H+LJc)

Al Gore wanted the masseuse to poke him in his third eye?  Then why was he waving his dick around?

71 Hanging chads and pollsters who couldn't count?

72 Liberals think know Conservatives are evil.

fify

73 then I realize it's because they're all mindless drones and I feel bad for them.

Some days I think I'd be a lot less depressed/drinking if I was as ignorant and mindless as the progg drones.

...but I just spent four days with only the MFM (and the first two with only NPR News) as information, and the ignorance about drove me insane. I'm still trying to figure out who the 60th Democrat senator is.

74

73 heather Radish,

 

Senator Place holder D-WV

he's Eric holder's nephew

75

 Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out.

This is true in many arenas. I hide my political views regularly at the elementary school so that I can actually get things done, because the minute the other moms find out I'm a conservative is the minute they stop working with me and perhaps even find ways to punish my child (no more invitations to birthday parties, no more good behavior tickets at school, etc.)

Thankfully over the last couple of years through doublespeak and "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" I've managed to find several other conservative moms. But, we keep our mouths shut as a general rule.

76 So, this just turns out to be Tucker 'BowTie' Carlson is jealous that he wasn't allowed to join?

Wasn't he an MSNBC anchor at one point?  He's just proving the point that tigers do sometimes eat their young.

77

With JList I haven't see so much cattiness since that documentary Lindsay Lohan was in--"Mean Girls"

78 sven10077--I thought he was #59?

79 ...but I just spent four days with only the MFM (and the first two with only NPR News) as information, and the ignorance about drove me insane. I'm still trying to figure out who the 60th Democrat senator is.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 23, 2010 05:26 PM (Ix+Uo)

Uh, you voters hate Congress right. So, uh, the Republicans still control Congress ok? Like all this talk of taxes and stuff? Republicans. Obama tried to give everyone their unicorn but those evil Republicans in congress stopped him. We aren't telling you how to vote, but you might want to get rid of those guys...

80
Yeah - it's called propaganda at worst and unprofessional agenda-setting one-party promotional group-think at best.


The way cool part - we all now live under the rule of one corrupt party.  It's like Detroit(D) for everyone.  Thanks journolist guys and gals - you are awesome.

Obama and Krugman - LOL.

81

78 HR,

 

No I am pretty sure he was #60, Byrd's death is what allowed the filibuster even if one of the RiNOs bolted....

82 That's exactly right Ace. Now watch this drive.FOUR!

83 unless you count Sanders and Lieberman being "other"

84
Actually it's "fore".

85 I hide my political views regularly at the elementary school so that I can actually get things done

I went out to dinner with an acquittance of my girlfriend. We are watching basketball, eating dinner, and said friend is saying how unpolitically correct she is - mouthing lefty platitudes, but rudely - quite politically correct actually.

I've got my, oh I don't care about politics face on, I don't want to argue politics, and I do want to watch the game.

My GF misreads her acquittance though - "Oh, you are a conservative? My boyfriend is too!"

We spent the next hour arguing politics because said "unpolitically correct" lefty couldn't stand the notion that someone wasn't a hardcore leftist and was in her presence.

86 74

73 heather Radish,

 

Senator Place holder D-WV

he's Eric holder's nephew

Posted by: sven10077 at July 23, 2010 05:27 PM (kq1lG)

You can bet there is a lot of this kind of shittyness going on nationwide.

87

Thankfully over the last couple of years through doublespeak and "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" I've managed to find several other conservative moms. But, we keep our mouths shut as a general rule.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 23, 2010 05:28 PM (RZ8pf)

heh, you won't believe what happened to me. I got a call out of the blue from a guy who wanted to know if I was interested in joining a national firm he works for. He got my name from someone in the industry. I said sure I would like to talk to him about it.

I meet him the next day and we talk for a long time about business an my amazing skills then he starts talking about how he watches Glenn Beck and how he doesn't think Obama is trying to help the country.

I start looking out the window to check and make sure we're still in Seattle and I didn't fly somewhere and forgot. I like him and the company alot.

88 -->You know why there's no right-wing JournoList? Because right wingers have to hide their opinions and do not dare risk venturing to offer them in written, permanent form like this.

I have to seriously disagree with this.  There's no right-wing JournoList for the same reason that right-wingers have to have different attitudes about state government and federal government, as opposed to nationalist liberals, who think that the federal government is all-powerful and the rest of the governments are only for show and to carry out the wishes of the, in the fevered minds of leftists, national government (which the US doesn't even have).

There is no symmetry between left and right.  The idea that left and right are the same, save some opinions, is one of the greatest mistakes that you can hear people repeat day after day.  Just because right and left are mirror images of each other doesn't mean that leftist politics and rightist politics in America are mirror images.  They are not.

Conservatives don't have a JournoList because we don't want one (it's underhanded and slimy and the sort of thing that only weak minds engage in) and we don't need one.  Either the US is going to save itself, or it should be allowed to finish the national suicide and another nation set up that will carry the American creed.

As to fighting leftists, if Bush had had the brains to file treason charges against the WaPo and NY Slimes over their espionage and attempts to seriously harm US national security, then lots of leftist dipshits wouldn't be thinking, today, that they can get away with anything they want.  But, they know they can, since no one will hold them responsible for their attacks on America ... and so they do whatever pops into their pea-brains.

89

Monday:  Patrick Lynch drops out of the Democratic primary for governor of Rhode Island, leaving exactly one Democrat in the race.

Tuesday:  Bill Clinton announces he's coming to campaign for and raise funds for the other Democrat.

Wednesday: Patrick Lynch on a high-level conference call with the White House.

 

I think we may have another Sestak/Romanov

90

robtr, I hope it works out for you to go to work for them.

 

Yeah, it is really strange to be talking to someone in this area and suddenly realize they are conservative. ItÂ’s like a load lifts off your shoulders and you are suddenly free to relax and not have to parse every word that comes out of your mouth for fear of tipping your hand.

91 Here is a partial list of the ultra-leftists on journolist per Newsbusters:
1. Ezra Klein
2. Dave Weigel
3. Matthew Yglesias
4. David Dayen
5. Spencer Ackerman
6. Jeffrey Toobin
7. Eric Alterman
8. Paul Krugman
9. John Judis
10. Eve Fairbanks
11. Mike Allen
12. Ben Smith
13. Lisa Lerer
14. Joe Klein
15. Brad DeLong
16. Chris Hayes
17. Matt Duss
18. Jonathan Chait
19. Jesse Singal
20. Michael Cohen

92 So, this just turns out to be Tucker 'BowTie' Carlson is jealous that he wasn't allowed to join?

Wasn't he an MSNBC anchor at one point?  He's just proving the point that tigers do sometimes eat their young.

Posted by: Sponge at July 23, 2010 05:29 PM (UK9cE)

Carlson (aka Chatsworth Osborne Junior, per Rush Limbaugh) wanted to test the proposition that JournoList was a list for journalists and not just Lefty journalists.  Even though Ezra Klein says that he had nothing to hide, he still turned down Carlson -- and now we see that Ezra Klein had plenty to hide and plenty of reason to keep a conservative out of JournoList.

93

90 PGiS,

take heart if Bury does his worst at least half will walk away from the kool-aid when they bottom out.....

nothing has changed except for thr distance it is from here to there.

94

robtr, I hope it works out for you to go to work for them.

thanks, it already has. I was just surprised that conservative politics came up considering where we live and all. Like you said, it's usually something you avoid bringing up around here if you want to eat regularly and stuff.

95 ItÂ’s like a load lifts off your shoulders and you are suddenly free to relax and not have to parse every word that comes out of your mouth for fear of tipping your hand.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 23, 2010 05:39 PM (RZ8pf)

I find I have conserv-a-radar though. I can spot conservatives without them saying so, at least usually.

96 Posted by: stuiec at July 23, 2010 05:42 PM (Giyzc)

Tucker's a conservative?  Had no idea.  I just know he was on MSNBC, so it was guilt by association.  Very closed minded of me, huh.

97

I think we may have another Sestak/Romanov

Posted by: Truman North at July 23, 2010 05:37 PM (e8YaH)

Good Lord, are they really that stupid and brazen to keep pulling that kind of crap when they've already been exposed?

98
are they really that stupid and brazen to keep pulling that kind of crap when they've already been exposed?

What's going to happen to them?  It's not like they're going to investigate themselves.

99 OT: John Kerry predicts 'ice-free Arctic' in '5 or 10yrs'

100 99 OT: John Kerry predicts 'ice-free Arctic Attic' in '5 or 10yrs'

FIFY.  He thinks that his wife will start giving him some Frankenstein love with him saving so much money in taxes by moving his yacht.

101

They think they can do it with impugnity because they usually do do it with impugnity.

Most of the right is still all hot and bothered on taking the deontological high road and playing Marquis of Queensbury rules.

And most of the right (and most of the country in fact) still isn't on to their games and their methods, or why the rules are the way they are.

102 Tucker's a conservative?  Had no idea.  I just know he was on MSNBC, so it was guilt by association.  Very closed minded of me, huh.

Posted by: Sponge at July 23, 2010 05:44 PM (UK9cE)

Before MSNBC he was the "conservative" half of CNN's Crossfire.

Rush calls him "Chatsworth Osborne Junior" in the same way that Iowahawk calls Chris Buckley "T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII" -- kinda squishy -- but apparently Carlson is stiffening up nicely.

103 Remember how many of these same Journolistas were so angry when it was discovered Armstrong Williams was pushing a Bush agenda item?!!

Hypocritical A$$holes!

104 We're either on the verge on a new American awakening that restore all of our futures or a quick descent into tyranny.

I'm betting on the former. There are just too many things going wrong with the Cloward & Piven model. The hits just keep coming.

But hey, since when have university professor's ideas ever worked in the real world?

105 Not sure if this has been posted alrady, and I apologize for the offense of linking to HuffPo. This pic just really blew my mind. I'd have been all over her back in the day.
http://tinyurl.com/299ffph

106 102

That's what she said!!!

107  I'd have been all over her back in the day.
http://tinyurl.com/299ffph

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 23, 2010 05:57 PM (+O8yf)

Gack..she looks like a tranny

..are we allowed to say stuff like that anymore?/

108

Jorno-List guys remind me of junior high school - if you didn't get the memo that your shirts had to have loops in the back, then you aren't cool.

According to the cool guys.

109 @95 You can usually tell by undergrad degree. "Harder" (not necessarily difficulty but more concrete) degrees such as business, accounting, engineering, etc. tend to be conservative. Softer social sciences tend to lean liberal. Non-degreers can go either way, depends on geography and occupation there. Graduate degrees earners tend to follow the undergrad method. Military, conservative. Cops, depends. Some love themselves AFSCME or whatever its called. Docs can go either way. In the south, we have what I like to call Dixie-Crats; people who are conservative and don't know it, yet will vote strait Dem because of those damn reconstructionists. (or they loved FDR because he was good to the farmers. Yeah grandpa, I'm looking at you) The county I grew up in didn't have a Republican canidate for Sherriff until the 60's. People from rural areas are more conservative, they are still used to self reliance. There is no trashman outside the burbs. Media can influence the leaners, people who don't pay attention (unlike us. Sorry people, we're atypical) as well as fiscal circumstances from upbringing. Some of the poorest people I know that have made something of themselves are the most conservative. Earning makes you appreciate it more. Its those who shot to wealth (dot commers) and had it given to them that have a lingering guilt that want to redistribute for equity.

110 This pic just really blew my mind. I'd have been all over her back in the day.


I'm sure he had grooming issues back then, too.

111 Jorno-List guys remind me of junior high school - if you didn't get the memo that your shirts had to have loops in the back, then you aren't cool.


Heh....we called em 'fag tags' so it made us feel better about not having them.

112

You can usually tell by undergrad degree. "Harder" (not necessarily difficulty but more concrete) degrees such as business, accounting, engineering, etc. tend to be conservative. Softer social sciences tend to lean liberal.

This is generally true.  The social sciences suck if you're a conservative.  Generally.  It is extraordinary luck if you get a good and unbiased instructor in those classes.  As for a career, eh.  I'd say the degree counts in general, but especially if said undergrad continued on in that career.

113 99 OT: John Kerry predicts 'ice-free Arctic' in '5 or 10yrs'
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby

That wasn't a prediction - that was him hoping for a chance to sail to the North Pole on his new yacht!

114 @104 Yeah, if you think about it, Cloven Piven makes no sense. It assumes that government is always what people will want in crisis even if the crisis is caused by too much government. It preassumes the causal connection between the cause of the crisis will not be made. It may have worked during the depression, but there were few media outlets and few people understood the economic forces at play. Not that people now are generally smarter, but if the Mullahs can't stop information seepage, there will be an information flow with a counter argument. More cowbell isn't a solution to fix the problem of my ears ringing from the sound of the damn cowbell

115 111

I don't think it was even possible to make it a whole day at my high school (all male, Catholic, ties and sports jackets) with one of those dress shirt loops and not have it ripped off. People had the entire backs of their shirts torn off by overzealous enforcers of the "no fag tag" rule.

116 @112 Its not that I did bad in those classes, its just that none of it was really emperical. Two of the classes who helped me form my view on the world was "Western Civ Pre 1550 and post 1550" at UH. Instead of teaching by dates and events, he focused on societies through philosophy and religion. Amazingly, I was never able to pin him down, but I think he was a libertarian or conservative teaching a humanities class. I never realized before the importance philosophy had in shaping a person's worldview or political leanings and why I felt that way. Its no wonder the libs banned it from high school cirriculum: can't let people think for themselves or divert from the Higellian/Marxist welfare state.

117 What I mean is: these institutions are so coopted by progressive/socialist scumbags that they can feel quite at liberty to do this with impunity. Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out.

Absolutely!

118 I was a history major - my focus was the Soviet Union.

I had been an uncommitted lib before studying the Soviets. I finished a fired-up anti-communist and dedicated conservative.

History is essentially conservative. All utopias end up eating their young.

119 That hillary sure is efficient.  Just saw her on Bret baier and she seems to have managed to sneak in a little cosmetic overhaul while she's out there saving the world. 

120 I never thought I'd say, Tucker you magnificent bastard.

For years I thought he was the right-wing Alan Colmes, and I mean that in *all* of the ways people bag on Colmes.  But between hiring Jim Treacher and these JournoList drips (although I think Breitbart's helping him there) I have a whole new respect for him.

121 ace,

Bingo

Bingo

Bingo

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Oh, wait.....(It's the heat)

122 Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out.

Especially if his only hope was the support of the conservative writing community. Not quite total--probably would find a home at the American Spectator or a place like that and like it just fine. But yes, it would be a trip to the ghetto. Or worse.

123 I wonder if we could raise 30 grand and send ace to the prez's birthday party?

124 JournoList - where the 4th Estate becomes the 5th Column.

Posted by: Dang Straights at July 23, 2010 04:54 PM (fx8sm)

iI I were smarter than you I would have thought of that before you did

125 123,

Nah, they would put him in cuffs and water board him, OH WAIT!

126 That hillary sure is efficient.  Just saw her on Bret baier and she seems to have managed to sneak in a little cosmetic overhaul while she's out there saving the world. 
Posted by: curious

----

So it's not just my lying eyes.

127 I don't think it was even possible to make it a whole day at my high school (all male, Catholic, ties and sports jackets)

I was with you until you got to the "all male".   I was visualizing Catholic schoolgirl uniforms.  MMMMMM....

128 20 The biggest difference between Conservatives and Progressives is this: Conservatives look outside their windows and notice it's raining Progressives turn on "The Weather Channel" and try to figure out if it's raining. The whole "it's raining" lie was already debunked this morning by the New York Times, which clearly stated that it would be partly cloudy today. God you people are stupid.

129 123 I wonder if we could raise 30 grand and send ace to the prez's birthday party?

How much Val-U-Rite could you buy with that?

130 Cry JournoList..and let loose the Dogs of Stupid!

131

Yeah, if you think about it, Cloven Piven makes no sense. It assumes that government is always what people will want in crisis even if the crisis is caused by too much government.

That is not necessarily the underpinning..it's more about fooling enough people, not all of them... and using a crisis for cover...i.e stimulus, healthcare etc.

132 Ugh the other day I mentioned the tie/shirt combos at fox...so far beck looked great but brett and juan....i mean since it was mentioned wonder if they instituted shirt and tie clash friday?

133 Well said, blogfather.

The fact that this comedy gold demands that we point and laugh at these fuckers is perhaps the best gift of all.

Because they fucking hate that shit.

Hahahahahaha.

134 Better watch yourselves, or Spencer Ackerman is going to come along and threaten you.  He got fired from TNR, so he must be credible or something.

135 Ezra Klein is a 26 yr old child with no real life experience yet writes in national news as if he knows everything. A bit punkish.

136
If you haven't read today's Vodkapundit, you owe it to yourself...

137 63 He was about a quarter of a mile away when the train ran over the Progressives.

I love stories with happy endings.

138 Cloven Piven illustrates the fundemental difference between conservatives and progressives: the embrace, desire and acceptance for authority. To those who trust authority, a crisis even manufactured will cause a desire for even more authority, whether it be the President, congress, an alphabet soup agency, or someone with a specialized degree. Trust us, we're experts. In the absence of all evidence to the contrary, the answer is never the solution was wrong, it will always be a messaging failure, poor implementation, or the fact that you rubes are too stupid (or rascist) to act in a rational manner. Sound familliar? I'm even beginning to notice the "you know, the plan's good but Barrack is kinda incompetent" pieces coming out. Expect more to follow. Conservatism is premised on the idea that humanity itself is flawed: that no amount of planning are expertise will cure societies ills; that sometimes the best we can do is let go. It lacks the hubris of progressivism. Is conservatism (or classical liberalism) always right? No its a process not a solution unlike its counterpart. It puts faith in the human and not obscure things like "humanity" and all that we are the world bullshit. I think one of its best characteristics is that is emperical and largely ad hoc: that is the plan, to the degree that there is one, is based upon what works and will change based on conditions. Contrast that with socialiam. When Stalin or Mao's collective farms failed and tens of millions died of starvation, no one said "gee maybe this isn't working, lets rethink this." They thought that the price in human life paid was worth the social engineering. People are expendable for the good of the plan. All may be sacrificed for the "nobel" intentions involved.

139 O/T  Get out your dead pool lists:

Zsa Zsa Gabor isn't doing very well.  Film at 11:00.

140

136 LK,

 

when Steve is on he is on

141 Rush calls him "Chatsworth Osborne Junior" in the same way that Iowahawk calls Chris Buckley "T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII" -- kinda squishy -- but apparently Carlson is stiffening up nicely.

The Daily Caller is a great website.  Gotta give Tucker his due, he really did something good here.

142 You gonna stick around Rosetta ? You and your ilk class up this joint .

143 The difference between conservatives and liberals is this.

When a conservative doesn't like something, he simply refuses to engage in that activity. If liberals don't like something, they rally support among themselves, condemn any behavior they don't like and then try to pass laws to force compliance upon everyone else.

We have seen the enemy. They are who we thought they were.

144
Better watch yourselves, or Spencer Ackerman is going to come along and threaten you. 

Dude is strayt gangsta.  If you know what's good for you, you will stop mocking him right.  The fuck.  Now.

145 "He'd [right-winger] be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out."

And it's time this worm turned. JournoListers (J) should be shunned, their association noted upon every reference or introduction. Those outlets that employed them should be boycotted and un-hyperlinked for some period. (Frankly, these institutions are doing a good job putting themselves out of business, so a boycott might actually be pointless since the trending is against them anyway.)

This cabal was malevolent and unquestionably unethical if not criminally so. We should be ruining their careers.

146 Now, while I'm thinking about it:

There was obviously at least one leak from JournoList, and maybe two. Daily Caller and Breitbart. Now, the question is were they the same leaker, or two different ones?

Now, if they were the same leaker, then everything makes sense--someone got ticked off. But if they were different leakers, then the question of motivation arises, since the target of the first leak was someone who could have conceivably be called one of the more "conservative" of the fearsome 400. 

Now, the same motivation as in the case of a single leaker may be there. Disgust, for various reasons, at the nature of the discussion on the list. However, the Weigel leak may have been done by a person more in favor of progressivism. Some say that this is the case, where Weigel was outed because he offered defenses of Rand Paul.

However, there is third possibility. What if at least some of the members of the list had become aware of the leak--and were trying to finger culprits, and looked for the usual subjects (viz--one of the few guys who seemed even remotely friendly to conservatives, and whose behavior in retrospect could be interpreted as over-compensation for his friendliness.)

Now, if Weigel was the double-agent, it would explain why there was some support for him on the right, especially at NR. But, I'm not sure he was. True double agents lay low.  Admiral Canaris comes to mind.

But--how would at least one of the JournoList folks know that they had been compromised enough for some one to take action against Weigel? Supposition--some of the leaked material was broadcast out in the open. Daily. Probably for months. But perhaps in a place where the JournoList members did not normally look, not being their thing. But eventually they did. Perhaps due to Weigel himself. Who knows.

But as far as understanding the leaked material was in fact from JournoList--elementary my dear Watson. Once you have the Rosetta Stone, you can translate all day long...

Like I said, a supposition.

 

147 132 Ugh the other day I mentioned the tie/shirt combos at fox...so far beck looked great but brett and juan....i mean since it was mentioned wonder if they instituted shirt and tie clash friday?

Well, at least it's different. We had an engineering prof at my university who had a 1,000 different ties, & he didn't seem to care about matching them to his shirt. He just really loved ties, & knew it provided levity.

148 Along those lines--where Weigel ended up fits another supposition.

149
Along those lines--where Weigel ended up fits another supposition suppository.

ftfy

150 Remember the other day when ace was really upset cause he was feeling as though some wanted all the republicans/conservatives/independents in the blog to walk in lockstep like the libs/dems and that he didn't like people saying mean personal things to some if they didn't want to walk in lockstep....as if maybe they weren't meeting a standard that no one had defined?  I'm thinking if this kind of stuff broke out on jourolist and they aren't accustomed to that and probably would implode.

151
The Center for American Progress  thinks that James Webb (D-va) is living in the past with this statement.

The time has come to cease the false arguments and allow every American the benefit of a fair chance at the future.

--James Webb


I think The Center for American Progress Stupid Left-Wingers Who Cultivate Victim Groups for Political Gain is living in another epoch.

(re this)

152 Ombudsman: "It all comes down to this: Conservatives think Liberals are wrong. Liberals think Conservatives are evil."

Naw, I think Liberals are also evil. Perhaps stupid, too.

153

when Steve is on he is on

Posted by: sven10077

'Tis true.

154
Name the first instance of the irrational habit of blaming Bush for things he could not have possibly caused.

And the answer is...

April 2003 on NBC's Today Show with Katie Couric and Matt Lauer. They blamed President Bush for killing reporter David Bloom.

Remember that?

155

1. Ezra Klein
2. Dave Weigel
3. Matthew Yglesias
4. David Dayen
5. Spencer Ackerman
6. Jeffrey Toobin
7. Eric Alterman
8. Paul Krugman
9. John Judis
10. Eve Fairbanks
11. Mike Allen
12. Ben Smith
13. Lisa Lerer
14. Joe Klein
15. Brad DeLong
16. Chris Hayes
17. Matt Duss
18. Jonathan Chait
19. Jesse Singal
20. Michael Cohen

"My God! It's fulll of stupid people!"

156

We've been feverishly working to get screen shots of your blog, you operative.

BTW, love the flame wars! SCORE!

157

120 I never thought I'd say, Tucker you magnificent bastard.

For years I thought he was the right-wing Alan Colmes, and I mean that in *all* of the ways people bag on Colmes.  But between hiring Jim Treacher and these JournoList drips (although I think Breitbart's helping him there) I have a whole new respect for him.

______________________

And he quit wearing that stupid bow tie. Which wasn't even a clip on.

158 "My God! It's fulll of stupid people!"

Notice another commonality?   Who was it that said Jews have the disposable income of Episcopalians, but vote like Puerto Ricans?  How can such a bright people be so dumb when it comes to the franchise?

159 O/T  Get out your dead pool lists:

Zsa Zsa Gabor isn't doing very well.  Film at 11:00.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 23, 2010 07:09 PM (UOM4

Crap, I picked Amy Crackhouse in Stoaty's dead-pool. That scrunt will probably be drinking Jack straight from the bottle and hitting the glass dick when she's 90.

160 Who was it that said Jews have the disposable income of Episcopalians, but vote like Puerto Ricans?

I chalk it up to G-d's sense of humor that Jews are the most prominent carriers of liberalism, an ideology that wants to destroy them.

161 Wow, you guys are minor league compared to other sites I have found....

162 And he quit wearing that stupid bow tie. Which wasn't even a clip on.

At least I give him and Professor Will credit for knowing how to tie the damned thing.  I bought one for my tuxedo, and had to give up and go back to the clip-on

163 OT but does anyone know why the flag at the Waterloo, IA city limits is flying at half-mast today?

164
get the paddles, this thrad is dying!

^{and for the 3rd time...where is runningrn?}

165 I chalk it up to G-d's sense of humor that Jews are the most prominent carriers of liberalism, an ideology that wants to destroy them.

It's because Jews consider minorities, and black people like Obama, to be kindred oppressed souls.  

Meanwhile, black people consider Jews to be....white people

166 My first ever comment from my Wii. All I need now is an IV for the Valu-rite and I'd never have to move again.us

167
fuck it, then

I'll make me predictions.

168
It's Friday and that means I See Dead People!

These people are gonna die this weekend.

Leif Garret
Fats Domino
Carl Reiner

169
I was First in this thrad...

and I will be Last.

170

I have a theory about the general political proclivities of the Jews, especially the way they embrace socialism.

Everywhere they have ever lived, (except in Judea/Israel) the Jews were always a minority, and usually a mistreated and abused minority.  Their thinking is that a lawful and socialist society is less harmful to them as a minority than would be a free-wheeling, openly capitalistic society.

The institutional and legal restraints of a democractic socialist society would generally protect them from abuse and harrassment. They would use their group smarts and lawyer skills to protect their standing.  The reality is that as a society becomes more socialist, it also becomes more factional and tribal, which starts to work against the Jews, and begins to foster evern harsher anti-semitism.

Examples: National Socialist Germany, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and the modern day United Kingdom.  The UK used to be a European paradigm of fairness to Jews, but as the 20th century  ended and the 21st began, the anti-Semitism has been rising.

In the final analysis, socialism is ultimately anti-reason, and anti-justice.  All those nice theories and principles get tossed for expediency and  power to be wielded for the sake of power by those in positions of power.. Because socialism never can be made to work without the compulsion to make the people behave and stay within the system.

171 ssssssssssssssllllllllllllllloooooooooooowwwwwwww day.....

172 147 This cabal was malevolent and unquestionably unethical if not criminally so. We should be ruining their careers.

Screw the justifications.  It would be FUN to ruin these shitheads.

173 OT: ONT

174 This cabal was malevolent and unquestionably unethical if not criminally so. We should be ruining their careers. Operation Pipewrench!!!!! *sigh*

175
I'm curious...

why do some of you need to wait for a specially designated thread to talk about nothing?

176 Completely OT, but in an attempt to revive a dying thread:

Dana Perino is on OReilly right now, and she is SCALDIN' hot tonight

177 I'm feeling rather sick, and in fact, believe I am on my deathbed.....

GACK!!!

178 @147 What's the point of ruining their careers? Their careers will be over as soon as the last of their bosses go the way of Newsweek. They're doing a hell of a job of ruining their careers already.

179 Wow, you guys are minor league compared to other sites I have found.... .....and now comes the lamentations of the women.

180 @182 Barring a clusterfark of a bailout for "fairness" of course

181 Republicans Release New Ad

182 What's the point of ruining their careers? Their careers will be over as soon as the last of their bosses go the way of Newsweek. They're doing a hell of a job of ruining their careers already. Closing your own hands around the windpipe is infinitely more satisfying than watching the MFM choke on a chicken bone from across the dining room. Obviously, I'm speaking rhetorically.

183 My first ever comment from my Wii. All I need now is an IV for the Valu-rite and I'd never have to move again.us

Hussein, you forgot the texas catheter - which sort of ruins the romance.

184 It's because Jews consider minorities, and black people like Obama, to be kindred oppressed souls.  

Meanwhile, black people consider Jews to be....white people

Posted by: Ombudsman at July 23, 2010 07:45 PM (y4B2y)

Absolutely correct.

185 What's the point of ruining their careers? Their careers will be over as soon as the last of their bosses go the way of Newsweek. They're doing a hell of a job of ruining their careers alread and that is why they are polishing knobs to get jobs in the new expanded government. Just wait, before long they will bring back the NRA (national recovery act) Back then they put people to work no matter what their career. A couple years rewriting history and then slide into an administrative job in the new new deal making big bucks telling the productive class what to do.

186 Didn't Evan Thomas from Newsweek flat out admit that the media  wanted Kerry and Edwards to win in 2004, framed stories and content, and was worth 15 points (later admitting maybe 5 points) or so to their cause?

187 Ombudsman - you attempt to revive a dying thread by sending the last readers off to drool over Dana, if you survive the camps, you will make a good triage nurse under ObamaCare.

188 Ombudsman - you attempt to revive a dying thread by sending the last readers off to drool over Dana, if you survive the camps, you will make a good triage nurse under ObamaCare.

No, we morons are sophisticated.  We can multitask.

189 "You know why there's no right-wing JournoList? Because right wingers have to hide their opinions and do not dare risk venturing to offer them in written, permanent form like this.

What I mean is: these institutions are so coopted by progressive/socialist scumbags that they can feel quite at liberty to do this with impunity. Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out."

There's also the small matter of the utter cowardice that has long been part of the makeup of the leadership on the Right.  If the leaders won't speak with a strong voice, the followers have little incentive to do so.  While conservatives have many qualities, a spine usually isn't one of them.

190 185 Republicans Release New Ad

Posted by: newser at July 23, 2010 08:24 PM (39SGJ)

Yeah, and Boner is asking for everyone to make "generous" donations to the NRCC. Why? Because we're all donating to individual races instead, robbing Steele and his ilk of any undue influence related to their power to disburse funds. Too bad, Johnny Boy - the revolution doesn't only mean voting out Dems, it means stripping entrenched GOP hacks of power, too.

Thank you for pointing me to this ad, newser, I don't want you to think this is an attack on you; only on the GOP establishment.

191
My first ever comment from my Wii. All I need now is an IV for the Valu-rite and I'd never have to move again.us



Now all you need is a Lazy Boy with a built in toilet, refrigerator and massage feature  for that dream to finally be realized. Forget about the automatic robotic Jenna Jameson hand that comes out of the side with a push of a button and wacks you off. I had to customize one myself.

192 O/T:  An open note to the:

Republican National Committee
National Republican Senatorial Committee
Pennsylvania Republican Party

You're pissing me off.  Stop calling me 10 times a night.  I have Caller ID-  I wil not answer.  You're not getting a dime from me until you prove you've learned your lesson.  Convince me, you bastards.

193 Here's a tornado warning you seldom see:

The National Weather Service in Upton NY has issued a

* Tornado Warning for... Queens County in southeast New York... Passaic County in northeast New Jersey... Kings (Brooklyn) County in southeast New York... New York (Manhattan) County in southeast New York... Bronx County in southeast New York... northeastern Essex County in northeast New Jersey... Bergen County in northeast New Jersey... Hudson County in northeast New Jersey...

* until 845 PM EDT...

194

She turned me into a Newt!

195 "More recently, following an interview on a major cable news network (not CNBC), I was advised off-air by the producer that they were operating under a corporate mandate to give the economic news a positive spin, irrespective of how bad it was.""

zero hedge link:

http://tinyurl.com/2atemba

196 I guess this is after they vacation in the Gulf the week before this.  Poor Bo...he hasn't even unpacked from Maine yet....

The White House today confirmed what many islanders have been anticipating for weeks: The first family will return to Martha's Vineyard for vacation next month.

President Obama and his family are scheduled to vacation on the island from Aug. 19 to Aug. 29.

The White House did not provide details on the getaway, but the Globe reported earlier this month that a reservation company has been holding rooms across the Vineyard for the contingent of staff who travel with the president.

197 "All this has been going on for 60 years or more." The saddest thing about these liberal media types is that to some degree they don't know how irrelevant they are becoming. The days of everyone tuning into Cronkite or Huntley, Brinkley for the news are gone. We have Fox, the internet, google searches, bloggers, radio hosts, and on and on. This has to be really frustrating for the democrat party elected officials like Obama, who have the traditional media people kneeling in front of them with lipstick on and their lips puckered and yet critiques are still reaching the people. BWAHAHAHAHHA!

198

The White House did not provide details on the getaway, but the Globe reported earlier this month that a reservation company has been holding rooms across the Vineyard for the contingent of staff who travel with the president.

Posted by: Tami at July 23, 2010 08:53 PM (VuLos)

That's plenty of time to service Bo's Gulfstream V.

199 The White House today confirmed what many islanders have been anticipating for weeks: The first family will return to Martha's Vineyard for vacation next month.

If there's one thing I do know how to do, it's vacation my Kenyan ass off!

200 I think Bo and I will take skiing lessons. Gotta figure out a way to be as far away from the White House as I can after November.

201

President Obama and his family are scheduled to vacation on the island from Aug. 19 to Aug. 29.





Must be nice to go on vacation every three weeks. Preznittin is so hard.

202

Actually I take the sarcasm back. I prefer he stay on vacation and I don't mind paying for it.

203 Actually I take the sarcasm back. I prefer he stay on vacation and I don't mind paying for it.

Posted by: Blazer at July 23, 2010 09:05 PM (t72+4)

Hell...I'd pay if he took all of congress with him.  It would be cheaper than what they're already costing us.

204

Barack Obama's favorite song


Somebody should use their mad tech skills and put Obama in this video in the lead singers place.

205 While conservatives have many qualities, a spine usually isn't one of them.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 23, 2010 08:44 PM (ySNz/)

Actually, it is a bit more complicated then that.

There is no price to be paid for leftwing activism. Even if somehow you get an arrest, which is highly unlikely even for things like physical violence, there exists a support network that will give you a paycheck with no concern for your criminal record.

Try getting a job in corporate America with a 2 year stint in prison for biting off some lefty's finger. 

The leftwing support network they have for activists is a powerful, powerful aid to their activist base, and something that *only* the pro-life part of the right has any mirror of, and even there only weekly.

206 Now that journolist is gone, they'll have to go back to their old standby, the cocktail party.

207

--"The Cocktail Party"

(their secret name)

--ass sniffing

(their secret handshake)

208

Ace, I have good news. 

I have two pepperoni pizzas on the way!

Best news all week.

209

210 Now that journolist is gone, they'll have to go back to their old standby, the cocktail party.

 

The first rule of the new Journolist-II, is there is no journolist. These condom sniffing rump rangers are still at it.

210

Ace, IÂ’d love to be President for just a week. IÂ’d make these pathetic, panty waist pervs have juicers in their undies.

211 I've been spreading the far-left media bias word since the early 90s. JournoList isn't Exhibit A, it's more like Exhibit Q.

I'm a little surprised (but shouldn't be) at the reaction, You knew the MSM was going to circle the wagons, but the "yeah we knew that" reaction from opponents (sometimes) is a little odd.

I was expecting less smug head-nodding and more prepping of lamp-posts.

Oh, well, in the era of the "scandal-a-day" left trying to overwhelm the opposition with sheer volume, it's just one story of many.

212 Andrew Wilkow put that pic up on Facebook a few weeks back with the caption " I think I gave her a ride home after a party once."

And as I commented there, I have fucked worse and am not embarrassed to admit it. No shame in my game.

213 Liars Club.

214
Must be nice to go on vacation every three weeks. Preznittin is so hard.
Posted by: Blazer


Signing 2000+ page bills that send the deficit into the stratosphere and then hang the responsibility on tax payers - is tuff.

215

Whereas a right-winger would never do this: He'd be facing career ruination were such emails to leak out.

 

in the brave new world they are slinking behind the scenes aplauding their comrades, and finding a new site, and way to further their cause.

216

Was Charlie Bicycle shorts ont he  LIBTARD-O-LIST??

217

Now I've seen it all in reading Nick Baumann's latest article in M.J.

Baumann in his vivid introspection brings the Journolist shame through the woods to g-ma's house and back, with a couple of resin hits, along the way, leading to this Baumann nugget: "At its heart, the Daily Caller's Journolist series is an attempt to hold people like Matt Yglesias (who is not a journalist, and never claimed to be), Ezra Klein, and others to journalistic "standards" that we don't even subscribe to. Journalists shouldn't be judged on whether or not we avoided drawing conclusions in our stories, or how scrupulously we avoid letting people know what we really think. We should be judged on whether or not our stories turn out to be true. 

Seems like its stuck on 4:20 in the land of Baumann.

Feel free to replace the name Carl with Nick Baumann in the following caddyshack dialogue.

Carl: I invented my own kind of grass, too. Did you know that? Look at this. This is registered: Carl Spackler's Bent.
Ty: I've felt grass like this before. I've played on this stuff.
Carl: This is a hybrid. This is a cross bluegrass, Kentucky bluegrass, featherbed bent, and northern California sinsemilla. The amazing stuff about this is that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt at night on this stuff. I've got pounds of this stuff. [hands his joint] Here, take a puff on this big ole' Bob Marley joint.
Ty: Oh, I couldn't possibly, well maybe one.
[Starts coughing uncontrollably]
Carl: It's a little harsh...Here. [hands him bottle of wine] Cannonball it, Cannonball! Cannonball comin' through, Cannonball!

218 Opulence?  I has it.

219 Actually I don't think that conservatives and libertarians have to hide their opinions at all.  Not in the way that leftists do.

There is no right-wing speakeasy because we SAY WHAT WE MEAN. 

We might bite our tongue, depending on the company we are with, but we don't present one face to the public while secretly working with one another behind closed doors (or on secret mailing lists) to destroy the nation we have the privilege of being born into.

We aren't duplicitous.

We don't lie about our objectives.  We don't lie about what we believe in or the reasons why.

Conservatives and Libertarians are basically good.

Leftists come in two varieties:  The genuinely evil and the easily led.

It really is that simple.  I don't say this out of hatred but from years of contemplation into exactly what it is that makes leftists tick.  Moral insanity and/or basic ignorance of reality seem to be the common afflictions of every leftist I've ever encountered.

The evil ones are precisely that.  There is no understanding or explaining them.  Evil has no rationale, it simply is. 

The foolish ones, who tend to be young, are fooled by the cover stories and propaganda that the evil leftists manufacture.  Many grow wiser as they grow older, but some remain stuck in the leftist mindset till their dying day.

I work in academia, where I'm surrounded by smug self-assured nincompoops.  So sure they are right, so isolated from the reality of their own folly.  Most aren't evil, but a few are.  Most simply lack the independence of thought required to face reality on its own terms. 

It is civilization itself that makes such people possible.  Western civilization is a victim of its own success story.  Without hardship and real challenges that must be met with determination and true competence, human beings can go through life wallowing in a sea of self deception made all the stronger by group-think.  Inside the echo-chamber, reality is but a dream within a dream. 

220 Does anybody think it is a coincidence when the Democrats roll out a new bill that the weekend before 60 Minutes has a piece on the "evil" they are fixing in the bill ?  ... or that the major 3 networks all have stories on the evening news programs ?

All those "conference calls" that are held weekly/daily to coordinate issues.

221 All the people on journolist at publicly traded companies need to be fired ASAP.