1 Yes, they should fight it, but they won't.

_{Of course, the problem with your hypothetical (in the Obamabots' minds) is that McCock was "only" dean of USC's school of law.  I mean, c'mon man, they have a real athletics program at USC and everyone knows that that, combined with being in the South, makes it a second-rate law school... unlike Hah-vahd!}

2

Do you honestly think Lindsey Graham and Orrin Hatch have the brains to understand what's wrong with this pick, or the stones to fight it?  We're fucked.

3 This is going to be a mess.

4 DeMint is a Lightweight.....

5 Maybe she has a copy of his college transcripts?

6
She should probably be under investigation for the GS ties, but she'll end up on SCOTUS instead. 

Go figure.

7 A light-headed euphoria nearly overcame me when I read the words "President Jim DeMint" - the kind of light-headed euphoria that usually is associated with standing up too quickly after a lot of drinking.

Once I got past that little speedbump, I then finished reading and agree, you're absolutely right.

8 Never happen.  The GOP wants to be seen as the good guys even though the Dems arse-rape them every time they turn the other cheek.

9 I just watched one of those phony staged conversations in which reporters use scripted back and forth to push an agenda.

The network:  Fox.   The reporters: Jane Skinner and James Rosen.

The gist of their phony back and forth is that Kagen has taken some conservative positions,  she has argued before the court on some Bush-era security policies, and the left is going to be upsset with her nomination.

In fact,  she might move the Court to the right!!!

Honest to God,  they actually said this.   I do not like it when the reporters think I am a dim bulb.  Skinner is a lib,  and I always thought Rosen had more integrity.  It was disgusting and should give us a clue as to how they are going to try to foist this woman on us.

10

from last thread.

 

she looks like dick morris with longer hair

11 she looks like dick morris with longer hair

How about Meatloaf with shorter hair? 

12

Agree 110%, Jack.

It shouldn't be enought that she's one of the least objectionable.

Why should we be forced to embrace mediocrity? Expose her and tie her to Obama as being someone with absolutely no experience. Let the campaign for 2012 begin next month.

13 The year is 2015. President Jim DeMint

*bunk*

14 Did you say Jerry Gallo?  I'm not Jerry Gallo--I'm Jerry Callo.

15 "she looks like dick morris with longer hair"

She looks like what Grandma Palin will look like in about four years.

16

The year is 2015. President Jim DeMint

*bunk*

Posted by: HeatherRadish

 

Really?

17

She's about as qualified for SCOTUS as Obama was (and is) for the Presidency, which is to say, she is not at all qualified.

 

18

Why should we be forced to embrace mediocrity? Expose her and tie her to Obama as being someone with absolutely no experience. Let the campaign for 2012 begin next month.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 10, 2010 12:14 PM (pLTLS)

Uh, that's the platform that Obama ran with and got elected.  He sees that as a virtue.  Remember, he is going to run for his second term as a beltway "outsider".

19 I think  there's plenty of ground on which she could be fought. 

In the end will we get a better (more tolerable) nominee out of this administration than her?  Nah.

The only part that concerns me is that her story is "sure, she's a leftie, but she listens to other views.  "

That was also the take on Obama and how well has that worked out?

20 Good post Jack. It puts it in perspective, as to what is going on with this pick. I will not see this post ANYWHERE but here, and it need to be out in the Press.

21 She's about as qualified for SCOTUS as Obama was (and is) for the Presidency, which is to say, she is not at all qualified. Posted by: Seriously? at May 10, 2010 12:16 PM (deJ/Y) Actually she is 100 times more qualified to be SCOTUS than Obama is to be President, and please don't take that in any way as an endoresment of her.

22 Boy, could you imagine the outrage if GWB would have nominated someone who never sat on the bench as a judge? 

23 She looks like what Grandma Palin will look like in about four years.

I would take Grandma Palin in TEN years over that wildebeest in her prime, any day of the week...

Why is it that liberal women are so damn ugly?

24

Even if that means Kagan is replaced by a more aggressively liberal choice.

Kagan is a stealth nominee.  It isn't known how aggressively liberal she really can be.  Since Barack "I'm Not an Ideologue, Really" Obama(a stealth candidate himself) nominated her, the less known about her,  the worst should be assumed about her.

25

Uh, that's the platform that Obama ran with and got elected.

Umm, and he took the biggest nosedive in the polls than any other President in recorded history.

Why wouldn't we expose her as the joke she is?

26 Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:16 PM (5Etcj)

She looks like that picture of your mom that you whack your pud to.

27 She looks like what Grandma Palin will look like in about four years.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:16 PM (5Etcj)

misogyny much asshole?

28 Why is it that liberal women are so damn ugly?

Posted by: Original Mikey at May 10, 2010 12:19 PM (Av4L9)

Liberalism attracts ugly women.  Feminism is a way for ugly women to enjoy more of the benefits of society.

29 Never happen, for just the reason you mention: He would just come back with somebody more liberal, he or she would pass, and it would be even worse. The GOP is taking the lesser devil and hoping she doesn't do too much damage. (And praying for the health of Scalia/Roberts/Alito/Thomas/Whatisname.)

30 Anybody else picturing her in Lucha Libre tights?

31

While Dean of the USC Law School, McCock barred the Justice Department from allowing DoJ recruiters on campus

I'd be shocked, flabbergasted, beside my self and incredulous that would never happen....oh wait, ew... bummer.

 

32 Hatch and Graham can't tie her to her anti-military/social engineering is more important to me than anything stance.  It won't happen-our side is too weak.

33 Oh, and Gamey McCock from South Carolina? I saw what you did there.

34 The GOP are, as a group, too stupid to understand what is at stake and what they must do.  They showed this during the empathy hearing for the wise Latina, when some GOPers gave their seal of approval to the Rule of Man over the Rule of Law, and their assent to the idea that affirmative action is a decent reason to put a retard (who didn't think that adjectives existed in Spanish - when she was already in Princeton!!) on the highest bench.

If the GOP had brains, they'd kick Grahamnesty out of the GOP caucus now, or just pull his assignment on the judiciary committee, so that he can't okay a vote to get the nominee to the floor.  But, they won't.  Because they're idiots.  Save a few good people, the bulk of the Senate GOP are worthless and nothing but straight men for the sad jokes of the dems and The Precedent.

35 (And praying for the health of Scalia/Roberts/Alito/Thomas/Whatisname.)

Posted by: joncelli at May 10, 2010 12:21 PM (RD7QR)

Not so much Whatisname.

36 Nice through-looking-glass scenario.

37

"Solicitor General Gamey McCock"

 

I googled that name.  There was only one hit.  This post.

There is something miraculous about that.  Kinda like discovering a new species.

I think I'm a gonna name my future kid that.  "Gamey McCock."  And even better, it is gender neutral.  Boy or girl, Gamey McCock it will be.

38 You know what we could use more of right about now? More incompetent and inexperienced Harvard people.

39 DeMint is a 100-1 shot to even win the GOP nomination.

40 "misogyny much asshole?"

It's only misogyny when you comment on Republican's looks?

41

Nevergiveup -

100 x 0 = 0

While a person having no judicial background being appointed to the SCOTUS is not without precedent, it is certainly not par for the course either.  I think an essential part of the process of attaining that high an office is some sort of track record.  Prior decisions on the bench comprise the track record.  How is her judging capability to be assessed properly without it?  Just what she says during hearings?  Bah!  She can say ANYTHING and on what basis, absent any prior decisions can she then be challenged?

That said, glad that you seem to not be endorsing her.

42 That's a ridiculous, total implausible scenario... there won't be United States of America in 2015.

43

I think I'm a gonna name my future kid that.  "Gamey McCock."  And even better, it is gender neutral.  Boy or girl, Gamey McCock it will be.

Posted by: Ed at May 10, 2010 12:24 PM (OCfDT)

I hope your conscience can bear this heavy, heavy burden, JackM.

44 But before switching parties, Gamey McCock was an intern for Massa and took part in tickle fights.

45 It's only misogyny when you comment on Republican's looks?

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:24 PM (5Etcj)

Nope.  It's also misogyny when we insult your dumb ass.

46 OT:  Gordon Brown today sacrificed himself in a last-ditch attempt to keep Labour in power. The Prime Minister announced that he would stand down as Labour leader once the party had formed a coalition with the Liberal Democrats. It came after David Cameron's hopes of seizing power were dramatically stalled tonight after the Lib Dems demanded further concessions and made clear they could still side with Labour. Gordon Brown had appeared to be on the verge of stepping aside as Prime Minister as negotiations between the Tories and Lib Dems looked set to deliver a deal within hours.

47 That said, glad that you seem to not be endorsing her. Posted by: Seriously? at May 10, 2010 12:24 PM (deJ/Y) The point, and only point, of my post was only to point out how unqualified that commie bastard is to sit in the White House.

48
The Republicans should fight just for the practice. Lord knows they need it.

49 The Republicans should fight just for the practice. Lord knows they need it.

Truer words were never typed.

50 Jack, BTW, better to not let Kagan to a vote in committee than to even try filibustering on the floor.  Of course, the GOP will do neither.

51 When was the last justice without any bench experience? Was it Frankfurter?

52 It's only misogyny when you comment on Republican's looks?

She  (like many liberal shehags) made a conscious choice not to give a rat's ass about her looks, dontcha think?

53 Heh, heh, heh.  Before President DeMint makes any SCOTUS appts., he could be challenging Mitch "Hangdog" McConnell for the speakership.  http://tinyurl.com/2fo8cxj

54

Gamey McCock? He's not Mike Hunts cousin is he?

 

55 40 "misogyny much asshole?"

It's only misogyny when you comment on Republican's looks?

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:24 PM (5Etcj)

you really are a fucking idiot aren't you.

56 Progressoverpeace, I agree about that, but I figure stopping her won't happen in committee. The thing about a filibuster is it can force some of the GOP'ers who aren't on that committee to take a public stand against her. Which is useful in and of itself.

57 #51  When was the last justice without any bench experience? Was it Frankfurter?

Rehnquist

58

She  (like many liberal shehags) made a conscious choice not to give a rat's ass about her looks, dontcha think?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 10, 2010 12:32 PM (pLTLS)

God forbid anyone mistake her for a lipstick lesbian.

59 No.. no filibuster.

But give her a really hard time at the confirmation hearings.

A filibuster has the potential of getting Dems to rally in Novemeber.  Currently, they are not all that interested to get out and vote.

We don't want to fire them up and get them to come out to vote in November.

60 Elena The Hammer Kagen.

61

Why is it that liberal women are so damn ugly?

I've actually always had a theory on lesbianism, as it is clear Kagen is gay, "not that there's anything wrong with that." ©

There are real lesbians, women who truly are attracted to other women from birth, or an extremely young age.

And then their are girls who had such bad experience with men in middle school or highschool that they've decided to be a lesbian. These girls tend to be more homely, but that is not required. I know two girls in my highschool who fit that perfectly. One was treated so poorly and thoroughly embarrased by a guy she loved that she just decided to be gay because she perceived that women wouldn't treat other women as badly. The other girl wasn't good looking and shunned by men, so she decided to become a man(although i don't know if she had the addadictome procedure).

I am guessing Kagan is of the latter category.

62 Most.ethical.administration.evah.

Anyway, let's see if she's paid her taxes.  The way the clowns in the WH operate, there's a decent chance her nomination will get pulled due to inadequate vetting. 

63

Elena The Hammer The Fist Kagen.

 

FIFY

64 Posted by: Jack M. at May 10, 2010 12:34 PM (Ncr1R)

I agree, Jack.  I was just throwing it out because I was so ticked about exactly this with the Sotomayor Kabuki on the judiciary committee and many people are still unaware that votes can be held up forever in the judiciary committee by the GOP.

65
It's about time for a banning, dickwad adds nothing to the conversation and is just trying to derail threads. 

66

51  When was the last justice without any bench experience? Was it Frankfurter?

 

Ah yes Frankfurter, best known for the crucial 1942 Oscar Meyer v. Weiner Case that forever changed america

 

 

67 Why is that fly still around? 

68

God forbid anyone mistake her for a lipstick lesbian.

I'd at least have some respect for her if she were a LL.

She is revolting on so many levels. Her looks should be the last reason to criticize her but it's just so damn easy.

69
Anyway, let's see if she's paid her taxes. 

Or if, like Caroline Kennedy, she has a houseful of illegals that she's paying $2/hr to do all the domestic servant stuff.  Those east coast libs love them some undocumented slave-labor, that's for sure.

70 Feela-da-busta-her! Where do I sign up!

71 It's about time for a banning, dickwad adds nothing to the conversation and is just trying to derail threads. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 10, 2010 12:38 PM (fx8sm)

Yeah, he's not even entertaining.

72 And should some of y'all actually name your children "Gamey McCock" send me the photos and I'll post one of Ace's "cute-ploding heart" threads.

73 59 No.. no filibuster.

But give her a really hard time at the confirmation hearings.

A filibuster has the potential of getting Dems to rally in Novemeber.  Currently, they are not all that interested to get out and vote.

We don't want to fire them up and get them to come out to vote in November.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 10, 2010 12:36 PM (f9c2L)

Eh...disagree. A SCOTUS nomination is pretty inside baseball stuff only trully engaged libs will notice a fight...the ACORN types which I'm sure we can agree put O over the top won't pay much attention to this as its too boring, its not the exhaulted one that they voted for in NOV. 08

 

74

Anyway, let's see if she's paid her taxes. 

Or if, like Caroline Kennedy, she has a houseful of illegals that she's paying $2/hr to do all the domestic servant stuff.  Those east coast libs love them some undocumented slave-labor, that's for sure.

Well like you know.....like you know...um like you know.

75

There are real lesbians, women who truly are attracted to other women from birth, or an extremely young age.

And then their are girls who had such bad experience with men in middle school or highschool that they've decided to be a lesbian.

I knew one once, a real hottie(such a waste), who in a moment of weakness was seduced in her youth by a dyke and felt so dirty afterward that she said she wasn't clean enough for men.  True story.

76 I think it may have one more chin than Mitch McConnell.

77 Ah yes Frankfurter, best known for the crucial 1942 Oscar Meyer v. Weiner Case that forever changed america

didn't he also pitch for the Boston Braves?

78 She looks like what Grandma Palin will look like in about four years.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:16 PM (5Etcj)

I'm guessing you look like her. A fat, ugly, nasty looking cow

79 "you really are a fucking idiot aren't you."

Juvenile insults about Kagan's looks is a surefire way to help the Republicans close their huge deficit in women voters, Jack.

80

Will this be the second NONmother justice appointed by Nanny Omama?

81

Chicago on the Potomac

82 It's only misogyny when you comment on Republican's looks?

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:24 PM (5Etcj)

It's only stupidity when you comment, you brainless asshole

83 Kagan is my twin separated at birth.

84

I think its about time we had a noob on the court. Maybe she can pwn some constitutional rights.

85

Her anti-Americanism should be brought up in her confirmation hearing. She should have to answer to the country why she kicked military recruiters off the Hahvahd campus. You know she'll say it was because of DADT. She should then be forced to explain why it is that our military should be "socially engineered" instead of trained in readiness for the next threat.

Rinse, repeat. Hammer her on every little nuance of everything she's ever done. The Republican Senators owe us that much. And as was mentioned upthread, they could use the practice.

86

She is revolting on so many levels. Her looks should be the last reason to criticize her but it's just so damn easy.

She looks like that by choice.  Don't tell me she doesn't have the resources to get a decent haircut and someone to show her how to apply her makeup.

The way she looks is an affirmative indicator of who she is.

87

Juvenile insults about Kagan's looks is a surefire way to help the Republicans close their huge deficit in women voters, Jack.

Hey sparkplug, you do realize you're really not in any position to be gloating over lost  Republican votes or voter blocks, right? 

Because let's talk independents, shall we?

Have you even followed the political climate in the last nine months??

88 Can we get a ban on the boring douchebag, JackM?

89 Juvenile insults about Kagan's looks is a surefire way to help the Republicans close their huge deficit in women voters, Jack.

As is insisting only mothers need apply for...well, everything.

But the derision about Kagan's unfortunate exterior here is about a millionth as harsh as what "feminists" gave to Sarah Palin.  When it gets to Marcotte-level nasty, I'll lodge my objections.

90

I knew one once, a real hottie(such a waste), who in a moment of weakness was seduced in her youth by a dyke and felt so dirty afterward that she said she wasn't clean enough for men.  True story.

Now you're just teasing us.  Link to the viseo, at least?

91 She's a far lefty and unqualified.  She'll be confirmed.

In other news: the tories and lib dems have made a deal.  Gordon Brown will step down.

92

Of course, if you filibuster this nomination, when Toonces comes back with a died-in-the-wool Marxist we've used up our bullets. You can't expect the Gang of 14 to trot out the "unusual circumstances" more than once per nomination.

This, of course, applies if keeping your word is a priority. Personally I think the GOP should try to keep it. From all appearances Kagan is a lightweight and underqualified, but doesn't warrant the "unusual circumstances" designation.

93

Elena I drive a Subaru Kagen

 

94 Actually she is 100 times more qualified to be SCOTUS than Obama is to be President, and please don't take that in any way as an endoresment of her.

Isn't 100 x 0 still 0?

95 Kagan looked like a man to me. I am not surprised.

Anyone holding out any hope for "change" can now completely spit the bit out. Obama is a spineless ninny. He practices politics just like the bastards we throw out. A cookie cutter politician who lacks any personal courage.

You know what I find fascinating? Apparently you must have a law degree from Harvard to get on the big bench. All others are "less than" pieces of shit. It is the supreme fraternity. You are not judged on ability, that is never the rationale. If you can afford the admission price, the elite admission price, this is apparently the only route to get on the bench. That sucks and smacks of elitism rather than merit. In fact, it could be said- that it is flat out discrimination-as long as you know the secret handshake and the code words.

96 I knew one once, a real hottie(such a waste), who in a moment of weakness was seduced in her youth by a dyke and felt so dirty afterward that she said she wasn't clean enough for men.  True story.

I know some smokin' hot divorced chicks who are now lesbians.  And they play roller derby.

97 "Have you even followed the political climate in the last nine months??"

If only the election had been held a couple months ago, lacey, the Republicans would have done fairly well.

Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

98 She's dirty bag ugly, she's fat and she's ghey. 

My bet the over/under of her seeing 60 is NOT that good.

I'll take a heart attack candidate over someone like Woods any day.

Did I mention, with all those chins, she is probably Chinese,  too?

99 Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

Six more?  When was the first one?

100 I'm all for a filibuster--at least for what counts as one under the current rules. But I want it to be done right. So, in the kindest manner, I must take exception with the following that Senator Sessions has said:

“Our Founding Fathers intended the Court to serve as a neutral arbiter of disputes and to defend the public from the overreach of a distant ruling class in our nation’s capital."

Well, no they didn't. If you look at the actual Constitution, you will see that Congress has extraordinary power to basically pre-determine Court outcomes on appellate cases via Article III, Section 2:

In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Marbury v. Madison did not create the right of the Court to trump Congress--it showed that the Court could get away with it if the political climate was right. I argue instead that the Courts current role as check-and-balance on Legislature derives more from the early 20th century reform movements, which used the Article III, Section 2 grant of power to encodify the Court's role in the US Title Code dealing with the judiciary.

As far as the Founder's are concerned, I think a fair reading would be that they intended it to be fairly well under the thumb of the legislature (with the system made up personnel as selected by the President and approved by the Senate, operating under laws and procedures as passed by Congress), with the high court acting as guide for the lower courts--but not as a check on the other two branches in a Madisonian Constitutional sense. That role has come later, and is grounded in the U.S. Code, not the Constitution.

The role of the Court is not sacrosanct, and should not be considered so, and I think it might be coming nigh time to discuss the proper Constitutional role of the court, as well as the makeup of the court regarding numbers and tenure, as well as if other means of checks and balances are needed, both of other branches on the Court, and Court on other branches.

But overall, if you think that in England the courts overruled the King or Parliament on a regular basis then I will grant you the Founders intended for ours to do the same with President and Congress. I'm not sure though that was the case. Making local magistrates--even if appointed by Crown or Parliament--follow the law, yes, absolutely. But check the Crown itself, or Parliament, on a law they passed and signed? No. I don't think it happened, but this is a useful discussion to have, for it will shed light on what Senator Sessions said, for I do not think he is right in his one small statement. Nothing else do I have a large issue with. 

101 She's dirty bag ugly, she's fat and she's ghey.

Mashed up bag of snakes, snails, and puppy dogs' tails with lipstick on it.

102 RELEASE THE KAGAN!

103

...when Toonces comes back with a died-in-the-wool Marxist we've used up our bullets.

Maybe not. Keep in mind how much the political mood of the country has changed in the past eighteen months. There's lots and lots of ammo and a target rich environment. I think the nation is ready for some real substantive discussions about the course our county is on.

104 Yes.  He must be banned.  Along with the rest of you.

I bid you adieu.

105
Have you ever met Ms Kagan? She's really very nice. She told me about a butterfly technique that my wife just loves!

106 I think with this pick, obama has locked up the midget and gnome votes.

107 Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

Now thats some funneh shit...thread winner!

 

108 Spongeworthy, That's a fair point. I believe that this selection undermines the integrity of the Supreme Court itself, in a much more fundamental way than even the nomination of some other hard-left radical would. You aren't going to get anything halfway decent out of the Obama administration, anyway. Better an "independent" (such as it were) leftist than a crony leftist.

109 108 Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

Can I have some of what you are smoking?

110 Give me another minute, I'm just about there...

111 ...when Toonces comes back with a died-in-the-wool Marxist we've used up our bullets.

Actually, assuming she's not a completely loony leftist, she'll be moving the Court right.  And probably the same for the next one to replace Ginsburg, unless it's an honest-to-God Marxist.

112 Elena crazy hairy legs Kagen

113 88 Can we get a ban on the boring douchebag, JackM?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2010 12:46 PM (1fanL)

--Please don't.  I like having an active troll to sockpuppet.

114

Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

What color is the sky in your little world? I'm betting brown with green polka-dots.

115 Kagan is about on par with Big Sis in the looks dept.  And Clapwagon, your idiotic remark about Palin looking anything like Solicitor General Meatloaf will keep me laughing all day.  Even if some horrible tragedy were to happen to Gov. Palin and mar her beauty, she'd still outshine Meatloaf just by her inherent goodness.

116

...when Toonces comes back with a died-in-the-wool Marxist we've used up our bullets.

We don't know that Kagan isn't a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist.  Not a lot is known about her.  But from what we know about Barry, everything he does should be fought to the last inch.  Supreme Court Justice appointments have a lasting affect that goesfar beyond other more reversible things a POTUS has the power to do.

117 "she looks like dick morris with longer hair"

She looks like Chaz Bono ..... with smaller tits.

118 Please don't.  I like having an active troll to sockpuppet.

Posted by: logprof at May 10, 2010 12:57 PM (Mmw0q)

There's that.  If there isn't consensus, I withdraw my request.

119

Juvenile insults about Kagan's looks is a surefire way to help the Republicans close their huge deficit in women voters, Jack.

yes because comments on the AoSHQ message board echo throughout america

120 "My choice of a pink Pocket Rocket for the afternoon delight with my nearest and dearest friend Beatrice is none of anyone's business, except for Eveready and WD-40."

-Elena Kagan
Lawyer & Taco Mistress

121
Actually, assuming she's not a completely loony leftist, she'll be moving the Court right.  And probably the same for the next one to replace Ginsburg, unless it's an honest-to-God Marxist.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2010 12:57 PM (1fanL)

Rush just said she's the mirror image of Easy Bake, even rumored to smoke!

122 #98  Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Thanks, I needed a laugh, suckdragon. 

123

I saw a picture of Elena Kagan and my first thought was,

"Good God! What the hell happened to Carol Burnett?"

Then I found out who it was and felt relieved. For Carol Burnett.

124 Friggin' hilarious.  I just heard a newsbite that Arlen Specter said he was opposed to Kagan as SG, but is willing to have an "open mind" on her this time.

Is that really newsworthy?

125

And another thing. Shouldn't a potential SCOTUSJ demonstrate a respect for the law? Her kicking military recuiters off the campus in clear violation of the Solomon law is ample proof of her selective enforcement of law.

More ammo...

126 The most compelling reason to filibuster is Robert Bork.

Bork Bork Bork!

127

There's that.  If there isn't consensus, I withdraw my request.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2010 12:59 PM (1fanL)

--Besides, clapflagon has not said anything offensive.  Yeah, it insulted Palin's looks, but that's against 50 insults of Kagan's looks.

That's not offensive; it's just dumb.

128

And another thing. Shouldn't a potential SCOTUSJ demonstrate a respect for the law? Her kicking military recuiters off the campus in clear violation of the Solomon law is ample proof of her selective enforcement of law.

More ammo...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 10, 2010 01:02 PM (i3AsK)

The Republicans had better go to town on this.

129 Hurrdeee fnee, flern de flim!

130 Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

News flash: Just because your mommy increased your allowance doesn't mean the economy is getting better

131 It would seem that Elena Kagan's best qualification for the court is that she knows what Janet Napolitano tastes like.

132 Besides, clapflagon has not said anything offensive.  Yeah, it insulted Palin's looks, but that's against 50 insults of Kagan's looks.

That's not offensive; it's just dumb.

Posted by: logprof at May 10, 2010 01:03 PM (Mmw0q)

Naw, not clever enough to be truly offensive.  Just boring, banal, regurgitated pap.  Though that "six more months of strong economic growth" line was funny.

133 Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

More? of what? adding government census workers to the workforce and trumpeting massive employment gains? watching the ceo of GM lie through his teeth about paying off their debt? or how about more tax dollars thrown down the rat hole of fannie mae/freddy mac? you can't possibly be this stupid and still remember to breathe.

134 #126  Is that really newsworthy?

Nope, but this is.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely Democratic Primary voters in the state shows Sestak earning 47% of the vote while Specter picks up 42%. This marks the first time Sestak has held the advantage in the race.

Fitting end for the turncoat if Sphincter lost the primary. 

135 Six more months of strong economic growth

posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

What's it like living in the blue fart cloud of liberalism? Avoidance of factual evidence, but spouting party nonsense gleemed from talking assholes like Rachael Maddow, Keith Olberman, Barbara Streisand, Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, and the Sheriff himself, Joe "A Big Fucking Deal" Biden.

136 It would seem that Elena Kagan's best qualification for the court is that she knows what Janet Napolitano tastes like.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 10, 2010 01:05 PM (P33XN)

Watch it, bub.

137 Folks I think most people are missing something with her nomination.  Obama nominated her exactly because she has no record anywhere, none, zip, zero.  She pretty much is a blank slate that Republicans can't pinpoint anything to actually attack.  There are precedents in appointing people to SCOTUS with no experience, so that argument won't work.  There are no qualifications to be appointed to SCOTUS in the Constitution that have to be met.  And more importantly, Obama learned his lesson with Sotomayor.  She had baggage and lots of it.  That "wise Latina" comment was one of the worse, and it nearly sunk her nomination (and IMO it should have).  He does not want any repeats of that stuff.  He has picked what he thinks is the best nomination to pre-empt a fight that the Repubs will lose if they choose to make it. 

138 #98  Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

Six more months of Obama's style of economic growth and snapdragons will be considered food, along with all other ornamental flowers, small pets, and leather shoe soles. Careful what you wish for, talking antirrhinum.

139

snapdragon,

funny , funny thing about misogyny and the Dem males, atacking female supporters of Hillary during the election, reminds me of Puma's , and hell those lovely comments about Palin and her daughter nasty name calling for months by You guys. so shush

many Dem women will never forget the party of looove. so go take a hard look in the mirror.

140

We are OUTRAGED that President Obama would take a step backwards in society by not seeking to equalize the ratio of men to women on the Supreme Cour...

...wait...

^{...nevermind.}

141 another thing snapdragon, NOW was also exposed as liars, not for women at all , just power, typical to use people to get ahead and dump them when you want to be part of the power monster. females be damned, eh

142 I agree with Rush, this woman is a stealth candidate about whom we know nothing.  Once installed, she will allow Obama to circumvent a newly-Republican congress and get his agenda passed through the courts. 

Weren't there some judges appointed by Bush that the Dems left unconfirmed for years?  I say tie it up until Obama runs out of liberals. 

143

133 - GODDAMMIT.

Anybody want my 'burger?  I ain't eating it now...

144 Obama's Babes

145 Six more months of strong economic growth

posted by: snapdragon at May 10, 2010 12:50 PM (5Etcj)

What's it like living in the blue fart cloud of liberalism?

In fairness, Washington DC has been hiring and raising salaries as if it is the mid-80s. So while the rest of the country suffers through the Obama depression, the apparatchiks in DC and their flunkies are in the middle of a major boom.

146 Willow, you're right.  Snapdragon and democrats like him are always using their bigotry to show blacks and women and hispanics and gays how they really feel.  If those groups don't want to be picked on, they have to support the democrat crony train, and 'progressive' ideas.

Otherwise, they get lynched.  It's as simple as that.  Snapdragon doesn't just hate the women on the right... those are the only ones he can bash, though.

147 living in the blue fart cloud of liberalism

--My apologies in advance, Fish, but I'm gonna steal that in the future.

148 Snappy is a tool.

That sheep like him exist is necessary. He is a constant reminder of the uphill battle that has been raging in this country since 1776. He'd give King George a reach around and a seal of approval.

Couple centuries later, the world has changed dramatically, but Snappy and the rest of the flock...well they still look and act the same.

149 The most positive aspects of Elena Kagan's selection is she doesn't look like Janet Reno and doesn't drive a red pickup truck.  However,  the duo are competitors for young cooter, and they are welcome to the liberal fuglies, but leave the conservative babes alone.

150

M'cel gets mad when he hangs around with women more attractive than she.

151 Rush is right.  Why do we have to let the horse out of the barn to know what colour it is?

152

M'cel gets mad when he hangs around with women more attractive than she.

Posted by: reason at May 10, 2010 01:13 PM (+hPIb)

You might be on to something.  Does that mean we can look forward to Justice Maddow?

153 -My apologies in advance, Fish, but I'm gonna steal that in the future.

Posted by: logprof at May 10, 2010 01:10 PM (Mmw0q)

Please use the phrase to advance the conservative agenda.

154 With a name like McCock don't you pretty much HAVE to vote for him?

155 From all appearances Kagan is a lightweight and underqualified, but doesn't warrant the "unusual circumstances" designation.

BS, that "unusual circumstances" train left the station after the first nomination.  The Dems blocked every Bush nominee there was after that.  You can never expect Dems to honor a "deal" but RINO idiots keep making 'deals" with them.

They should fight EVERY Obama nominee tooth and nail just like the Dems do. In fact, they should drag out "character" witnesses who will accuse them of everything from hiring illegals to child pornography with little or no evidence what so ever.

And then call them racists. 

156 Great Job!

157 I think Kagan is Barack's half sister. Shrouded in secrecy, she hails from the Isle of Man.

158 I'm going with the "if it sounds too good then it probably isn't all that great" reason as to why she should be fillibustered.  That's my opinion, and I'm sticking with it.  I didn't really need to hear much more than the suprise that he didn't pick somebody worse...which means she probably is "worse" and nobody knows it yet.

159 Dude, she's gay, do you really think we're going to filibuster a member of the protected class? Of course not, we're pussies.

160 she hails from the Isle of Man.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 10, 2010 01:17 PM (uFdnM)

But relocated to the Isle of Lesbos.

161 "58 God forbid anyone mistake her for a lipstick lesbian." What's funny is that many lipstick lesbians love that stumpy, mannish bulldyke shit.

162

Six more months of strong economic growth will erode whatever gains the Party of Bush have made since the last election.

With all the pussies and lesbians Oblather has put to work...wouldn't it be fair to call his the part of bush?

163 OT: David Miliband, a really good friend of Hillary Clinton's, will stand for the Labour leadership.

_{/They may like each other, in fact.}

Carry on!

164 Vic...

We got a President with no work history and experience, why not another one on the bench? I'd veto Kagan for no other reason than the great Marxist nominated her. I'm betting he knows a helluva lot more about her Marxist ideology than we do. Reason enough to put a scope up his ass. Ha

165 She'll truffle shuffle her way through confirmation.

166 I like the cut of this Gamey McCock's jib.

167

O/T Rush just played the Obama information clip, and I could swear he said "epantsipation" instead of "emancipation".

 

168

Filibuster?

We can't even make a coherent argument as to why we should keep our own jobs.

169

Eye on the ball folks...

This is a further direct attack on any literal interpretation of the Constitution itself.  The ONLY arbiter the Feds recognize as to Fed Power are the Supremes, and she is one who takes a liberal interpretation of not only the Constitution, but even the rule of law.

She needs to be attacked on THOSE fronts... because with cases like the FCC's ignoring the a Fed Court about the Internet and their power to regulate, these cases WILL hit the Supremes.

170 Looks like snatchdraggin' is enlightening with a little wit, microscopic in fact.

171 She'll truffle shuffle her way through confirmation.

Posted by: Ben at May 10, 2010 01:23 PM (wuv1c)

As soon as somebody unchains her.

172

Oh, and on a side Note...

Gamey McCock for President in 2012!  He has at least as much experience, and paper trail, as Obama!

173 165 OT: David Miliband, a really good friend of Hillary Clinton's, will stand for the Labour leadership.  /They may like each other, in fact.

Oh, thanks for reminding us of that.

btw, here's what I found concerning the British elections. 

UK's Brown to quit in bid to keep Labour in power

The Lib Dems are already talking to the Conservatives about governing together, but Brown said in a statement delivered in front of his official residence at 10 Downing Street the Lib Dems now also wanted to talk to Labour.

174 Of course, the same pols that will emote about a filibuster are the ones who were counseling the tea party/townhall activists to be quieter and more respectful of their political betters. 

175 She has probably seen the inside of more courtrooms on a single episode of Law & Order than she has in real life.

She doesn't just have a lack of judicial experience, she has no courtroom experience.

176 Somewhere in this great country, there must be a patriotic lesbian who loves America.

177 Lindsey Graham and Orin Hatch take exception to your post.  I thought I would point that out.

178 Kagan looks like a bulldyke. I suppose she/it is.

179 Why is it that liberal women are so damn ugly?

Politics is how ugly people get laid.

180 For the record (I said it on the last thread), have you noticed how light skinned and absent a Negro accent the president's picks are?

It's almost as if Barack Obama doesn't like powerful black people who are independent of him.

If he's going to make a crony pick, why her?

181

Oh, and as a female independent...the whole "being sensitive to women" thing isn't all that important to me right now.  Managing to have a decent job and keep that stuff I've worked so hard for?  That's an important issue right now.    National security?  That's an important issue.  The women's issue stuff has never been all that important, tell the truth -- and when it does crop up, I'm a big girl and can take care of myself.  I don't need nanny government fighting my battles for me; all I ask is an opportunity -- which is granted by the Constitution -- and I'll take it from there.

And the reason, to state it once again, why the Dems will not be getting my vote.  Try again Snappy.

182 11 she looks like dick morris with longer hair

How about Meatloaf with shorter hair? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2010 12:14 PM (Kn9r7)

 

Ok so I'm not the only one who hears Austin Powers when I see her?

"She's a MAN, baby"

183 Yet another in a long line of left wing circus freaks.

I remember once seeing  a picture that had Robert Reich, Donna Shalayla, Janet Reno and a handful of other Clinton administration weirdos and thinking that there wasn't a single one of them that didn't look like a cartoon character.

Maybe that's what makes them such angry little malevolent shits.

184 Somewhere in this great country, there must be a patriotic lesbian who loves America.

Posted by: RickZ at May 10, 2010 01:29 PM (Hkzt9)

I'm a patriotic lesbian trapped in a man's body, does that count?

185

I'm a patriotic lesbian trapped in a man's body, does that count?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2010 01:35 PM (1fanL)

It would, but only if you go for the full appendage removal via SRS.

186

186  Uh sorry, no -- although I've heard there are a lot of your type running around; perhaps start your own special interest voting bloc?

 

There's one I used to work with -- sensible, intelligent, doesn't particuarly care to be considered "special" due to her sexual preferences, good sense of humor too.  I nominate her for SCOTUS. 

187 I'm more qualified than she is.

188 Does McCock have a newsletter?

189 *sigh*  Yeah, you're nuts.  In your hypothetical, the Democrats wouldn't attempt a filibuster.  And they wouldn't do it for the same handful of reasons the GOP won't filibuster Kagan.  Sorry, this is just another wingnut pipe dream.  Kagan is going to coast to confirmation with the only significant protests coming from right-wing websites, talk show hosts, Tea Party loons and a handful of crying goofs at Fox News.

190 153 Rush is right.  Why do we have to let the horse out of the barn to know what colour it is?

Posted by: logprof at May 10, 2010 01:14 PM (Mmw0q)

"We need to pass the bill to know what's in it." -- Nancy Pelosi

It's all about deceit with this crowd.  They don't respect democracy or the people.  They've been tired all their lives of being thwarted by the ignorant masses so they lie about who they are and what they want, jamming it through when they get the chance.

191 patriotic  Lesbian woman?  Tammy Bruce?

192 #184  "She's a MAN, baby"

Somebody needed to put the YouTube link.

#186  I'm a patriotic lesbian trapped in a man's body, does that count?

It was just a matter of time before somebody here cracked that obvious joke, lol.

193 Sally Ann, have you met snatchdraggin' ? You two could make beautiful imbecile noises together.

194 Sally Ann you ignorant slut, once again you completely miss the point of the original post.

For fuck's sake girl, just stop already, you're only embarrassing yourself.

195

133 - GODDAMMIT.

Anybody want my 'burger?  I ain't eating it now...

Posted by: reason

 

Is it named Janet?

196 I doubt anyone cares much about Kagan possibly being a Lesbian, the only concern on that point, is that if she were, and she hasn't come out, she can be blackmailed. otherwise who gives a darn.

197 I'm a patriotic rodent trapped in a man's body.

198 195 Sally Ann, have you met snatchdraggin' ? You two could make beautiful imbecile noises together.

I pray that they'd only make noises together and not other things IYKWIMAITYD.

199

194, 186  I suppose that now is the time for an obligatory "how you doin'?".

There ya go, my feminist act for the day, carry on.

 

200 Quick picking in Kagan's sexuality! *giggle*

201 I really wish people would put the question to black leaders as to whether they think this lightweight appointment is appropriate.

After all, if you're going to make an affirmative action pick, shouldn't it be a black judge?  He is the first black president.  Does he hate black people?  He didn't treat David Paterson (D-NY) too well, did he?

202 otherwise who gives a darn.

Posted by: willow at May 10, 2010 01:42 PM (7FgWm)

I do, because the adjective that most modifies "lesbian" is "man-hating."

203 Woah, was Nathan Lane just nominated for the SCOTUS?

204

"Somewhere in this great country, there must be a patriotic lesbian who loves America."

There is, but she's given up and is now scouting out areas of abject desolation upon which she can plant her flag, turn her face to the sun, and cry out "Hail, Alextopia!"

205

a patriotic lesbian who loves America.  -- Other than those with the last name "Cheney"? The blogosphere's further-Right has Cynthia Yockey. Otherwise, yeah, the Players For The Other Team doesn't have exactly a groundswell of support for the Conservative side.

Although, there's quite a few bi girls around the libertarian circuit; but I'm not sure bi girls count.

206 204  That only applies to bitter, self-hating lesbians who are still trying to prove something through their sexuality. 

207

Fubar, or just especially women lovin. : } but i understand your point,

The point is Judges are supposed to decide on law by constitutional standards, IF she happened to be a decent Judge, she would do that only. of course it is unlikely  She in particular would.

208 patriotic  Lesbian woman?  Tammy Bruce?

Posted by: willow at May 10, 2010 01:39 PM (7FgWm)

Tammy is teh awesome; I wish she still would guest-host Laura Ingraham's show and then Laura would go on an extended vacation.

209

"I'm a patriotic lesbian trapped in a man's body, does that count?"

Maybe.  But, IIRC, being a man trapped in a lesbian's body is sheer hell^[1].

^[1]  Being John Malkovitch.

210

Captain , I also like Laura, but correct about excitement with Tammy, she is tough , quick and smart, and the best thing, On our side,

she get's it.

211 Posted by: willow at May 10, 2010 01:48 PM (7FgWm)

Yeah, and a liberal lesbian is particularly apt to be steeped in racial, gender, and victimology politics.  Social justice is a lot more important than actual, you know, justice.

212 I don't care in the least whether Kagan is a lesbian, except for the fact that there is no way that fact (if indeed it is true) cannot cloud her judgement one way or the other. Without any judicial track record to go  by, whatchagonnado?

213 gets not get's

214 There is, but she's given up and is now scouting out areas of abject desolation upon which she can plant her flag, turn her face to the sun, and cry out "Hail, Alextopia!"

The robe would look good with stompy boots.

215

maddog, you got it, no guarantee at all, and what we see , we don't like much, being a lesbian is just static to me.

cannot cloud her judgement one way or the other. Without any judicial track record to go  by

216

she get's it.

Posted by: willow at May 10, 2010 01:50 PM (7FgWm)

Damn straight she does; the open letter/on-air smackdown she gave to fatassed Meghy Mac was enough to give AllahPoundsit permanent shrinkage.

217 Captain, it waaas delicious!

218 It seems to me that if Kagan is a good choice for Zero, she (?) would also be a good choice for Castro, Chavez, Guevara, Mao, or any other number of anti-American tin horn dictators. To me, that is enough to filibuster her (?).

219

Is it me, or does Kagan look a lot like the sleazy lawyer for the Barksdales in "The Wire"?

Judge for yourself:  

http://tinyurl.com/29yykfw

vs.

http://tinyurl.com/2cjhm44

 

220  Beat her up during questioning, but not filibuster. I opposed the Democrats on the idea of judicial filibusters and won't support it from the GOP. Much as I hate it, elections do have consequences, which in part allows an inexperienced Marxist POTUS to nominated an inexperienced progressive candidate to SCOTUS. Also, there's no way in hell that a filibuster will happen. The Senate will grill her and then confirm her.

221 Fubar. said: liberal lesbian is particularly apt to be steeped in racial, gender, and victimology politics.  Social justice is a lot more important than actual, you know, justice.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2010 01:51 PM (1fanL)

uh hmm. not the lesbian so much, but yes to the new very un approved  liberals and social justice,  what it always means is, this day we adore this group to gain power, next month this one, hell i remember when they used to Chat up middle america? now they call them names.

222 The whole "is she or is she not a lesbian" non-issue could have some relevance only if "they" plan on having a Latina seat, a black seat, a gay seat, etc. for perpetuity. Maybe the O. Admin wants her in the closet (are they the ones who "inned" her or did someone else do that?) to save the "gay seat" for his next pick.

223

222  Beat her up during questioning, but not filibuster.

What is the point of that? Seems a waste of time if your going to confirm anyway. Might as well cut to the chase and rubber stamp her, and save the fucking pointless grandstanding.

224 The longer they're fighting over the lovely Elena, the longer they're not working on amnesty or cap-and-trade. We've got six months to kill.

225

What is the point of that? Seems a waste of time if your going to confirm anyway. Might as well cut to the chase and rubber stamp her, and save the fucking pointless grandstanding.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2010 02:00 PM (OlN4e)

And miss all the camera time?  That's crazy talk.

226 Sally, did Obama attempt a filibuster of Roberts?

Yes he did.

So you're wrong.  Of course the democrats would filibuster and play out any nomination to the Supreme court of a crony with zero experience on the bench.

Of course.  That's ignoring the law breaking.  That's ignoring that she joined a lawsuit that lost unanimously, making Kagan a consistent extremist who simply stays silent 99% of the time.

Sorry, you're a liar and we know it.

And tactically, there's absolutely no reason not to filibuster and drag this out and bring any character witnesses that want to talk.  The democrats did this crap to Roberts, and they will always do it to anyone who comes along.   You assholes always promise 'but it's different this time... we wouldn't do this to you!', and always you would.

227 224 The whole "is she or is she not a lesbian" non-issue could have some relevance only if "they" plan on having a Latina seat, a black seat, a gay seat, etc. for perpetuity. Maybe the O. Admin wants her in the closet (are they the ones who "inned" her or did someone else do that?) to save the "gay seat" for his next pick.

Posted by: LincolnTf at May 10, 2010 02:00 PM (qSRHZ)

I suspect that is part of their master plan.  There will be designated seats on SCOTUS for all of the "protected" groups.  All in the name of ensuring social justice for all.  I guarantee you subject of not having a gay member on the court came up really quickly in Obama's first conversations on his nomination.

228 I'm beginning to think qualifications don't matter much in this process.

229

"The robe would look good with stompy boots."

Alex would rock the first faux-leather SCJ robe.

230 178 Somewhere in this great country, there must be a patriotic lesbian who loves America. Posted by: RickZ at May 10, 2010 01:29 PM (Hkzt9) Oh, I knew there are patriotic lesbians, and even some patriotic lesbian lawyers, but patriotic lesbian law school professors from Hahvahd? Fuggedaboutit.

231 You know what I find fascinating? Apparently you must have a law degree from Harvard to get on the big bench. All others are "less than" pieces of shit. It is the supreme fraternity. Don't law schools have 'Court Room Practice' or something like it as part of their curriculum? Makes you think on your feet 'n' stuff. Why is it that the Most Brilliant Humanoid to ever Graduate from Harvard Law can't give a speech without crutches?

232 224  That is the only concern I have with the "lesbian or no" thing (well, besides the whole activism slant -- which has more to do with political leanings than sexuality, but I digress).  It's the highest judicial seat in the land, not the seating for the rainbow coalition awards night dinner.  I hate that entire stupid concept -- people should be chosen according to their ability to do the job, not what "group" they supposedly represent.

233 I saw the photo of the Supreme Court nominee and thought, "Hell, I didn't even know Dick Butkus was a lawyer!"

234 I say if your going to fight, fight. Hogging camera time and then voting to confirm just confirms many independents views of Republicans. In fact, I too hold a low opinion of many Republicans, as many are squishes without the stones to do what is right for the country. I am really sick of Republicans that make me praise them on Monday, then make me regret it on Tuesday.

235 Do lesbian's decide who are batters and who are catchers?  If deemed a batter, what would Elena "Sweet Lips" Kagan bat with?  Have I thrown a curve ball, or are 10-inch strap-ons just a fact of life with clam diggers?

236 237 It doesn't have to be just hogging camera time. They can discuss as weighty and complex issues as the process allows. Expediting Obama's activism and relieving him from political pressure is not in the Republican's best interest, so why do it?

237 But the derision about Kagan's unfortunate exterior here is about a millionth as harsh as what "feminists" gave to Sarah Palin.

HeatherRadish, supreme smackdown.  Great point.

238 Let's nominate someone who thinks that the way Bork, Thomas, Roberts (am I forgetting anyone?) were treated was shameful.

239 241  Well, I am looking for better employment at the moment; would the hours be such that Mr. Unknown doesn't have to watch the kids too much?

240

Fish,

Whatever you do, don’t google “Fist of Fury”

241

Expediting Obama's activism and relieving him from political pressure is not in the Republican's best interest, so why do it?

Why not fight tooth and nail to the bitter end? They (Democrats) would do it, and have done it. Time to replace the squishes with conservatives who are more concerned with the future of the country and less about how they look on CNN while "making points". CNN is going to cut them out of the coverage anyway, unless they do something they can portray as "mean spirited".

242 maddog, which to cnn is anything done by conservatives, , i agree, drag our heels.

243

"Of course, if you filibuster this nomination, when Toonces comes back with a died-in-the-wool Marxist we've used up our bullets. You can't expect the Gang of 14 to trot out the "unusual circumstances" more than once per nomination."

This occurred to me as well. Then I think back to the Bork nomination. The Democrats fought that one bitterly, and to the best of my recollection when they squashed his nomination, their reaction was not, "Okay we fired our only bullet, we're out of ammo. Let's hope Reagan does not double down." It was more along the lines of, "We rolled you punks. This will happen again and again until you send us a nominee that WE deem to be acceptable."

I know the politics and alignments are different, but still...

244 >>>Beat her up during questioning, but not filibuster. I opposed the Democrats on the idea of judicial filibusters and won't support it from the GOP.

First of all, there is no symmetry between the left and the right.  The dems filibustered perfectly decent people and they did it for judicial positions of all sorts, not just SCOTUS nominations.  For the SCOTUS nominations, they went beyond filibusters into full scorched-Earth.

Secondly, this is the nation that is at stake, not some game of political niceties.  Allowing the Ineligible Imbecile From Indonesia to put ANOTHER unqualified, and America-hating, leftist on the Court to destroy what little is left of our Constitutional basis would be a death blow.

Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with filibustering SCOTUS nominees.  If the Dems want to remove the judicial filibuster, as the GOP threatened, then let them try. 

The left, led by the Indonesian Imbecile are trying to destroy this country, and they are very close to succeeding.  This reality needs to be acknowledged by the Senate GOP, and, more importantly, the GOP members on the judiciary committee who should not even let this nomination come to a committee vote.

>>>Much as I hate it, elections do have consequences,

And the Constitution has a proscription against people who are not natural born citizens (which entails never having held any other citizenship) from ever occupying the Oval Office ... but no one respected that - and for which the US has paid dearly.

>>>which in part allows an inexperienced Marxist POTUS to nominated an inexperienced progressive candidate to SCOTUS.

And which charges the Senate with disallowing such a nomination to get through.  That is the point of "advice and consent", just as with any idiotic treaty that The Precedent might sign and try to obligate the US to.

>>>Also, there's no way in hell that a filibuster will happen. The Senate will grill her and then confirm her.

Posted by: physics geek at May 10, 2010 01:57 PM (MT22W)

Probably - though I don't think we'll even see a "grilling", as Sotomayor didn't get even a tenth of what she should have, before being laughed out of the Senate chamber.  But the Senate GOP are mostly turds, so the left always has that going for them.

245 Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with filibustering SCOTUS nominees.  If the Dems want to remove the judicial filibuster, as the GOP threatened, then let them try.

I would love to see this. That is a damn good reason for the Repubs to keep this in committee. Let the commies kill the judicial filibuster in the committee.

246

Before spending time, effort, and political capital on a fillibuster, you really need to consider the consequences.  This diatribe only considers the consequences of not fillibustering, and does so by proposing a specific scenario that is unlikely.

Fillibuster her, and worse options will likely be nominated.  The public will end up pressuring the GOP to accept one of them.  Else, it will negatively affect the GOP in hte November elections.

Pick your battles.  This one isn't even close to being worth fighting, IMO.  We lost this one in 2008 - elections have consequences.

247 Fillibuster her, and worse options will likely be nominated.  The public will end up pressuring the GOP to accept one of them.  Else, it will negatively affect the GOP in hte November elections.

or not.

248 Concern trolls have been hitting hard lately.

249

"Fillibuster her, and worse options will likely be nominated.  The public will end up pressuring the GOP to accept one of them.  Else, it will negatively affect the GOP in hte November elections."

All depends on how the GOP presents their side of the matter.  If they can rise above the cries of "Party of teh Noes!" that we can all expect, and make each person a unique case-study in Bad Justice Appointments, then it can work out as a positive, as a "we're looking out for America" message.

Kagan is bad because she's completely out of her league here.

The next one is bad because of whatever reason they're bad for (blatant socialist, part-time legislator, whatever...).

And the next.

And the next.

Until someone reasonable finally shows up in the roster.

250

Pre-op Chaz Bono?

251

>>>Fillibuster her, and worse options will likely be nominated. 

So what?  Everything The Precedent does is bad for the US.  He needs to be stopped in his tracks.  Period.

>>>The public will end up pressuring the GOP to accept one of them. 

Says who?  Why do you assume this?  What does the public care if there are 8 or 9 justices on the Court?  The Court doesn't stop working, and it becomes a 4-4 split (with even a slight possibility to go 5-3 in favor of the Constitution on some issues) to put a halt to some real liberal idiocy ... for a little while.  I don't see why you think Americans will even give any thought to how many justices are sitting on the Court.

>>>Else, it will negatively affect the GOP in hte November elections.

If anything, demonstration of a little backbone by the GOP will energize the base further.  Libs won't be moved by it.

>>>Pick your battles.  This one isn't even close to being worth fighting, IMO.  We lost this one in 2008 - elections have consequences.

Posted by: connertown at May 10, 2010 02:41 PM (+q3dR)

Every single attempt by The Precedent and his Washington junta need to be fought to the very end.  EVERY SINGLE ATTEMPT.  The GOP dropped the ball on health scare (because they didn't understand how un-American The Precedent really is and thought that health scare would die a normal death - as it would if an American were President (Shrillary would have folded on it back during the Town Halls) and the country got royally screwed - irreparably.  There aren't many fights left before this nation goes under for good.

252

Since when were political victories supposed to be shared like Oreo cookies and turns on the tire swing?

Fillibuster her, and fillibuster the next unacceptable move, and keep doing it -- Republicans will be pilloried as being the party of "no" anyway, they are already in fact.  The real problem is that the other half (or more than half) of the country sees them as the party of spineless pussies who are secretely in bed with the opposition.

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#249

I think your whole point is BS. Political capitol? WTF? Where is this finite well of political capitol? How deep is it. How many gallons of political capitol do we get to waste before the "public" starts pressuring them to confirm Chairman Mao? Since she has no judicial record to draw inferences from, just how the hell do you know who could be worse?

Who decides what battles to fight and which ones to spread our cheeks for?

Bullshit, thats just stupid.

254 It would be interesting to see some of the work Kagan did at Harvard, if just for the reason that we can point to it and say, "Hey Obama, we found <i>her</i> old work, where's <i>yours</i>?!"

255 Someone please 'splain something to me..

Why all this talk about what the Democrats did to Bork?  He wasn't filibustered.

As I recall, the Dems really tried to smear Bork, and it got pretty dirty.  But, there was no filibuster.

Bork's nomination went to the full Senate and it was defeated in an up or down vote. (After the Judiciary Committee voted against him, I believe)

256 Why would anyone assume that nominating someone even worse than this one would make it harder to fight?  A political victory would make it easier next time.  Victory brings confidence, and we already have enough practice on rolling over.

As far as give her harsh questions then go ahead and rubber stamp the appointment, we already did that with the last one, and what exactly was the gain?  Nothing.  The left's victory on that just encouraged them to push harder on other fronts. 

Thanks for all the concern about using up political capitol and good will from the lesbian lobby, but I'm not buying it.

257 The libs are not not liking Kagan. The lib blogs are tripping all over themselves trying to rationalize their Messiah's pick. Personally, I think it's the best we'll get out of the radical leftist in the White House.

258 You put two words together in one sentence that will never be allowed in the gop lexicon:  Agressively fight.  This is just not part of the gop makeup.  They firmly believe in go along to get along, and wouldn't want to get any negative press for turning this nominee down.  So, say hello to the next supreme.

259 A couple of little tidbits from Kagan's insane undergraduate thesis at Princeton (the school that had the adjective-denying Sotomayor walking the halls):

"In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of capitalism's glories than of socialism's greatness."

Now, that, all by itself, should be enough to have Kagan laughed out of the Senate.  Of course, she was just a dumb undergraduate (as opposed to the dumb bull-dyke she now is), but then there was this nugget:

"Why, in a society by no means perfect, has a radical party never attained the status of a major political force? Why, in particular, did the socialist movement never become an alternative to the nation's established parties?"

She wondered why a "radical" party never became a major political force (until the dems of today and their America-hating ineligible Indonesian retard came onto the scene).  This is pretty close to Sotomayor's claim, also while a Princeton undergrad, that adjectives don't exist in Spanish.  What is it with Princeton and retarded undergrads?  White hot white guilt.  The sasquatch did her undergrad at Princeton, too.  And wrote a barely literate senior thesis that was nothing but whining about race and assorted idiocies that would have gotten a
"C" at most normal high schools.

260

jeeze, Progress, that's horid,

could i have a link to save to fight with?

"In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of capitalism's glories than of socialism's greatness."

whew i had no idea!

261 "In our own times, a coherent socialist movement is nowhere to be found in the United States. Americans are more likely to speak of a golden past than of a golden future, of capitalism's glories than of socialism's greatness."

Progress, that is horrid. i had no idea, may i have a link to that?

262 well hell, the program said it wouldn't go through , yet my previous comment had.

263

Man, you sure can get labeled a "concern troll" and a lesbian quickly 'round these parts.

Make no mistake - I want to see a bloodbath at the polls in November that turn both houses over to conservative majorities.

But the timing is EXTREMELY important.  The pendulum could very well swing back to the left enough for the Dems to save their comfortable majorities.

The question I put back to the group is "whose votes are you trying to win?"

It ain't the votes of true conservatives that are at stake if the fillibuster backfires.  It's the moderates and undecided pansies.  The people who let the mainstream media dictate their agenda and follow like sheep.  Those idiots are capable of changing the outcome of lots of elections, because there are so many of them.

 What votes do you hope to gain with the fillibuster gambit?  Because I maintain that there is too much to lose.  The November elections are just that much more important to me.  I don't care how old or gay she is.

264

 What votes do you hope to gain with the fillibuster gambit?  Because I maintain that there is too much to lose.  The November elections are just that much more important to me.  I don't care how old or gay she is.

~connertown

The November elections are going to be decided by Americans voting their paychecks and their economic pain.  They are mad a hell about ObamaCare and about the attempt to pardon illegal aliens.

Conflating the Kagan nomination with the November vote is BULLSHIT.

Kagan needs to be filibustered because she is a socialist radical that is going to be determining precedent CASE LAW for the entire U.S. for the next 30 years if she gets a seat on the SCOTUS.

265 Posted by: willow at May 10, 2010 05:28 PM (7FgWm)

I got the excerpts from WND.

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patriotic  Lesbian woman? 

Liz Cheney?

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268 Nah, we need a lesbian on the court, diversity and all that you know. Next year we'll need a transgendered. The year after that a flasher. The year after that ... Ah, you get the picture. Republicans? Filibuster? Fight Obama? Stand up for the Constitution? Republicans???? You must have some other "Republicans" in mind. Our Republicans couldn't filibuster William Ayers and Bernedette Dorn! Obama could nominate Jeremiah Wright and the Republicans would say, "Well, he has the right to pick his own court."

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