February 19, 2010

Krauthammer: Obama Failed Because The System Worked
— DrewM

A little over a year into a failed presidency and the Democrats already know who is at fault...everyone else. They do this by ignoring the year* they had a 60 vote super-majority in the Senate (something that only disappeared when they managed to lose the seat held by Democrats for over 50 years) or the overwhelming House majority they still enjoy. No, like a child looking to deflect blame for their failure to 'remake' America as Obama promised, they claim to have not have had enough power to overcome 'special interests' 'Fox News' and of course, those pesky 'people'.

Citing the Reagan and Clinton presidencies, Charles Krauthammer takes the, um, hammer to their claims that this some how proves America is now "ungovernable".

It turned out that the country's problems were not problems of structure but of leadership. Reagan and Clinton had it. Carter didn't. Under a president with extensive executive experience, good political skills and an ideological compass in tune with the public, the country was indeed governable.

It's 2010, and the first-year agenda of a popular and promising young president has gone down in flames. Barack Obama's two signature initiatives -- cap-and-trade and health-care reform -- lie in ruins.

Desperate to explain away this scandalous state of affairs, liberal apologists haul out the old reliable from the Carter years: "America the Ungovernable." So declared Newsweek. "Is America Ungovernable?" coyly asked the New Republic. Guess the answer.

The rage at the machine has produced the usual litany of systemic explanations. Special interests are too powerful. The Senate filibuster stymies social progress. A burdensome constitutional order prevents innovation. If only we could be more like China, pines Tom Friedman, waxing poetic about the efficiency of the Chinese authoritarian model, while America flails about under its "two parties . . . with their duel-to-the-death paralysis." The better thinkers, bewildered and furious that their president has not gotten his way, have developed a sudden disdain for our inherently incremental constitutional system.

Yet, what's new about any of these supposedly ruinous structural impediments? Special interests blocking policy changes? They have been around since the beginning of the republic -- and since the beginning of the republic, strong presidents, like the two Roosevelts, have rallied the citizenry and overcome them.

Liberals never admit they are wrong or that the majority simply rejects their ideas. It's simultaneously childlike in it's refusal to take responsibility and dangerous in that their answer is always to change the rules to give them even greater power to do what they want.

Ask a die hard lefty about the failure of socialism and communism everywhere it's been tried and they will simply tell you it's never really been tried as intended. The Soviet Union, Cuba, China (before going capitalist) really weren't pure enough examples for them. Give them one more chance, a little more power, a little higher body count and they will usher in utopia!

Obama isn't failing because conservatives lie or cheat. Obama is failing because he's an ideologue who wrapped his hard left agenda in a gauzy film of Hope and Change. Now that people have gotten a look at what it really means they are rejecting it.

Unfortunately for liberals, this system of checks and balances is a feature, not a bug of the American system.

*As Zimrel points out in the comments, the Democrats only had 59 votes until July when Franken was seated. Two things...59 votes is a lot and other than the 'stimulus' (which passed) the big ticket items like health care and Cap and Trade weren't ready for votes until after Franken took his seat. They still couldn't get it done.


Rogue Regime [ace]: As Drew mentioned, the filibuster is singled out as a villain in most of these pieces.

The implication is that the filibuster is an anti-democratic gimmick that thwarts the will of the people.

It may be an anti-democratic gimmick, but note that in this case it certainly does not thwart the will of the people -- by majorities often approaching 60%, the people say they don't want ObamaCare.

So what they are really complaining of is that there is a procedural hurdle in the Senate that is keeping Obama and the liberals from passing into law a bill that the public loathes.

Does that make any sense? They call America "ungovernable" and blame the filibuster (among other things), despite the fact that the filibuster is being used on behalf of the majority of voters to advance their actual agenda (or rather halt a bill that is contrary to their agenda).

America isn't ungovernable. Lacking responsive and responsible governance from the accidental power the Democrats have, America has chosen to govern itself, via the only levers of power over its rogue government it has left.

Posted by: DrewM at 07:55 AM | Comments (171)
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1

I fear that the Dims are still gonna ram Deathcare down our throats.  After all, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission, right?

At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 19, 2010 07:56 AM (9hSKh)

2 Communism works, in theory.

Posted by: Typical liberal college student at February 19, 2010 07:57 AM (0Hn5w)

3

"A little over a year into a failed presidency and the Democrats already know who is at fault for their failures...everyone else."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!elev!!enty!!!!!

Gotta love it.

Posted by: General Zod, Decidedly Alpha Male at February 19, 2010 07:58 AM (WmZrs)

4 2 Communism works, in theory. So does cold fusion.

Posted by: Zatara at February 19, 2010 07:58 AM (nz654)

5 Perhaps we need to install a dictator for life and burn that pesky constitution? 

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 19, 2010 07:59 AM (eTmlC)

6 2 Communism works, in theory.

So does cold fusion.

And the Rhythm Method.

Posted by: Rocks at February 19, 2010 07:59 AM (Q1lie)

7

Obama is failing failed because he's an ideologue who wrapped his hard left agenda in a gauzy film of Hope and Change....and that his only "achievement" was Project Vote and asbestos removal in low-income southside Chicago housing.

Some lefty turd yesterday tried to make the case that he should forget 1600 Penn and nominate himself to SCOTUS. Ya know, because we're to dippy to understand his egghead law school professor adjunct ways.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 19, 2010 08:03 AM (pLTLS)

8 The problem is all the knuckledraggers voting against their own interests.

Posted by: Elitist? Moi? at February 19, 2010 08:03 AM (YCVBL)

9 Have I ever typed that I hate liberals and their guts?

Morning M&M's.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 19, 2010 08:03 AM (bcOep)

10
The only reason that socialism has failed is the wrong people were in charge.

-Fidel Castro

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 08:04 AM (M5t+h)

11 "Politburo" rolls off the tongue so much more melodically than "congress".   I'm just saying...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 19, 2010 08:05 AM (eTmlC)

12
"Give me liberty or give me Katie's"

-Joe Biden

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 08:05 AM (M5t+h)

13

Rush in two, suck it liberals!

Posted by: Fish at February 19, 2010 08:06 AM (M5t+h)

14 "Obama Death Care" has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, it needs one good push, or even one foot stuck out at the right moment to make it fall.  The republicans need to present their own modest, workable health care reform plan at next week's DeathCare summit, and then let the democrats go after each other.  Make it abundantly clear that republicans are the party of health care freedom, and the democrats are the party of health care destruction.

Posted by: Boots at February 19, 2010 08:06 AM (06JTY)

15 When you really think about it, freedom is slavery.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 19, 2010 08:06 AM (eTmlC)

16 Communism works, in theory. So does cold fusion. And the Rhythm Method. And government employees. They have jobs, right?

Posted by: fluffy works hard at February 19, 2010 08:06 AM (4Kl5M)

17 Some lefty turd yesterday tried to make the case that he should forget 1600 Penn and nominate himself to SCOTUS. Ya know, because we're to dippy to understand his egghead law school professor adjunct ways.

I think the grand strategy here is to make Scalia die from laughter.

They're playing chess, not checkers.

Posted by: VJay at February 19, 2010 08:07 AM (gQ+XA)

18 When you really think about it, freedom is slavery.

And some people really are more equal than others.

Posted by: taylork at February 19, 2010 08:08 AM (0Hn5w)

19

Don't worry; Crap and Tax and the Healthscam have NOT gone away. Bambi plans on healthscam via reconilliation on a budget bill. As for crap and tax, he has a two tier approach; first via executive fiat using the EPA (hail King Obama) and second via skirting the consitution by making a treaty.

He will argue that a treaty is the law of the land and is the same as an amendment. Its not.

Posted by: Vic at February 19, 2010 08:08 AM (QrA9E)

20 Maybe this is why my best friend and I differ in the opnion of Che being a douche bold for emphasis). She tells me his revolution got all fucked up. Hahahaha.- no shit? Geesus. Scary.

Posted by: defenduUSA at February 19, 2010 08:08 AM (Kt4Bp)

21

Communism works, in theory.

...and capitalism works in practice.  Like the Army says, if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 19, 2010 08:09 AM (pZEar)

22

Have I ever typed that I hate liberals and their guts?

Probably.  Have I ever said that I hate liberals?  Many many times.

Posted by: jewells at February 19, 2010 08:10 AM (l/N7H)

23 Freedom is such a precious commodity that it must be rationed.

Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 19, 2010 08:12 AM (pZEar)

24 Thank goodness for racist teabagging redneck bitter clingers.

Posted by: Truman North at February 19, 2010 08:12 AM (e8YaH)

25 OT: Lautenberg has stomach cancer.

Posted by: Bugler at February 19, 2010 08:12 AM (YCVBL)

26 @1 At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Let me it go, dude. Anyone up for liver for dinner?

Posted by: Prometheus at February 19, 2010 08:12 AM (cvvNY)

27 OT: Just got this e-mail alert from Fox:

New Jersey's Frank Lautenberg, nation's second-oldest senator, has stomach cancer

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2010 08:13 AM (VuLos)

28

"Communism works, in theory.

So does cold fusion.


And the Rhythm Method."

Ya'know, it's funny, they never accept that arguement about abstinance. Sex is the one area where human nature is set in stone, apparently.

Posted by: Randy at February 19, 2010 08:13 AM (zQKSr)

29 "Unfortunately for liberals, this system of checks and balances is a feature, not a bug of the American system."

If you listen closely enough you can hear the architects of that system- Madison, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, and all the rest- probably over a good tankard of ale- laughing their heads off at The Precedent as he flails about trying to "fundamentally transform America".

This is exactly the kind of sh*t that they foresaw and built the system to prevent.

And, thank G*d, that system is working...

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 19, 2010 08:14 AM (OtQXp)

30 Some moron has blocked the copy paster.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at February 19, 2010 08:16 AM (NLZLH)

31 OT: Just got this e-mail alert from Fox:

New Jersey's Frank Lautenberg, nation's second-oldest senator, has stomach cancer

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2010 12:13 PM (VuLos)


from falling down???? WTF? I guess I need to get the Wii Fit out and work on my balance some more.



Posted by: Rocks at February 19, 2010 08:16 AM (Q1lie)

32 Totally off topic, but sure to bring the LOLs, The Onion's version of the Tiger Woods Presser: http://is.gd/8JrZH

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 19, 2010 08:16 AM (rDvlp)

33 The devil is calling so many of his children home lately.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at February 19, 2010 08:17 AM (NLZLH)

34 Communism works only if you can crush the spirit out of the people. They have to become walking dead with no hope for that system to work. And still it doesn't actually work, it lust lingers...

Posted by: maddogg at February 19, 2010 08:17 AM (OlN4e)

35 Jonah Goldberg over at NRO addresses this issue by referencing that font of all wisdom, The Blues Brothers movie.

Remember that great scene from the Oscar-robbed classic The Blues Brothers? Jake and Elwood (John Belushi and Dan Akroyd) are finally cornered by Jake’s former fiancée (Carrie Fisher). Jake left her at the altar with 300 guests and the best Romanian caterers in the state waiting.

“You betrayed me!” she exclaims.

“No I didn’t. Honest,” Jake explains. “I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!”

This is pretty much how Democrats sound these days. None of their problems are their fault.


Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 08:17 AM (xxgag)

36

27 @1 At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Let me it go, dude. Anyone up for liver for dinner?

Still sore at me for using your ashes as a strength power-up?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at February 19, 2010 08:18 AM (9hSKh)

37 @30 "Unfortunately for liberals, this system of checks and balances is a feature, not a bug of the American system."

If you listen closely enough you can hear the architects of that system- Madison, Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, and all the rest- probably over a good tankard of ale- laughing their heads off at The Precedent as he flails about trying to "fundamentally transform America".

This is exactly the kind of sh*t that they foresaw and built the system to prevent.

And, thank G*d, that system is working...

meh, I still got the Executive Order, Bitches (and DR. AMY BISHOP will be my next Czar of Kicking-Ass and Taking Names)

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 19, 2010 08:18 AM (cvvNY)

38 Does NJ appoint replacements or hold special elections? And thank God for Chris Christie!

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 08:19 AM (RD7QR)

39 @37

27 @1 At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Let me it go, dude. Anyone up for liver for dinner?

Still sore at me for using your ashes as a strength power-up?

That and that bitch, Pandora. Who has been reincarnated as Amy Bishop.

Posted by: Prometheus at February 19, 2010 08:21 AM (cvvNY)

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at February 19, 2010 08:21 AM (bcOep)

41

Does NJ appoint replacements or hold special elections? And thank God for Chris Christie!

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

They'll take the seat from his cold, dead hands apparently:

www.nj.com

The Democrat still plans to finish out his current term – his fifth in the Senate – and seek re-election in 2014.

“This doesn’t change any of that,” Lautenberg’s chief aide, Dan Katz, said of the senator’s political plans. “After he receives his treatment, back to normal.”

Moments ago, LautenbergÂ’s office issued a statement from the senatorÂ’s oncologist, James F. Holland, saying:

“We expect a full and complete recovery for Senator Lautenberg. The senator will be treated with chemotherapy administered approximately every three weeks. We anticipate that he will receive between six and eight treatments, and in between treatments, the senator is expected to be back at work in the Senate.”

Posted by: Tami at February 19, 2010 08:21 AM (VuLos)

42
meh, I still got the Executive Order, Bitches (and DR. AMY BISHOP will be my next Czar of Kicking-Ass and Taking Names)

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 19, 2010 12:18 PM (cvvNY)

Yeah- Executive Orders worked fine for me!

Posted by: Richard Nixon at February 19, 2010 08:22 AM (OtQXp)

43

Does NJ appoint replacements or hold special elections? And thank God for Chris Christie!

Does it matter, the state senate will pass a law saying there should be special elections. Also if the guy dies do you think Christie will get away with appointing a republican?

Posted by: Ben at February 19, 2010 08:22 AM (wuv1c)

44
wow so we got a shot at another Senate seat?

Nice.

Christy should appoint his lt. gov or himself as the replacement.

Posted by: This is your brain on brainssss at February 19, 2010 08:23 AM (jVldi)

45 The purpose of The Constitution is not to govern The People, it is to govern the government.

Posted by: davidt at February 19, 2010 08:23 AM (OdlYh)

46

“This doesn’t change any of that,” Lautenberg’s chief aide, Dan Katz, said of the senator’s political plans. “After he receives his treatment, back to normal.”

I think Jack Murtha said the same thing

Posted by: Ben at February 19, 2010 08:23 AM (wuv1c)

47

It's a good thing liberals and the politicians they elect are so incompetent or we'd be in a lot more trouble right now.  They screwed up a supermajority and to date, have nothing to show for it. 

Ralph Wiggum could have ushered through more legislation than Obama/Pelosi/Reid.

 

Posted by: Blogluddite at February 19, 2010 08:24 AM (fDWFP)

48
doods, Lautenberg will be dead before Spring.

Mark my words.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 08:24 AM (jVldi)

49 We need a Lautenburg thread...

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 08:25 AM (RD7QR)

50 Whenever the left is taking a political beating, you can be sure they'll start moaning about partisanship and the increasingly bitter "tone" of political discourse.

Meanwhile, they spent the last 8 years politicizing a war in order to harm George Bush.

These are the same people who dragged Sarah Palin's kids through the mud and illegally dug through private, personal records of Joe the Plumber, private American citizen who just happened to speak his mind when King Barack came onto his property for a photo op.

Ungovernable? By you clowns? You bet. The kind of ungovernable that the 2nd amendment wholly supports.

Posted by: Warden at February 19, 2010 08:25 AM (TIGTh)

51
Both Lautenberg and Byrd will not see 2011.

My words, mark them.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 08:25 AM (jVldi)

52 39 Does NJ appoint replacements or hold special elections? And thank God for Chris Christie!

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

Given that the norm for the state is a Democrat governor I would guess gubernatorial appointment for the full balance of the term.  I would also guess that Democrats in the state legislature are at this very moment scrambling like madmen tying to find a way to change that...

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 19, 2010 08:26 AM (OtQXp)

53 damn, between Kennedy, Murtha and Launtenberg; I'm working overtime. Need to run down to the Rite-Add and get more witch hazel to rub on me.

Posted by: Barbed Cock O'Satan at February 19, 2010 08:26 AM (cvvNY)

54 35 Communism works only if you can crush the spirit out of the people. They have to become walking dead with no hope for that system to work. And still it doesn't actually work, it lust lingers...

Posted by: maddogg at February 19, 2010 12:17 PM (OlN4e)


I saw this in an earlier thread.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at February 19, 2010 08:26 AM (NLZLH)

55 Even if the NJ legislature changes the law, Christie still has to sign it, yes?  What's their veto override percentage?

Posted by: grognard at February 19, 2010 08:28 AM (v0kvW)

56

Obama will win the noise war because conservatives

have political amplifiers that only go to "10".  O's

amplifier goes up to "11"!  Christopher Guest will

back me up.

Posted by: grizzlybare at February 19, 2010 08:28 AM (V5kav)

57

This country is not socialist, will not accept socialism as an attribute of the country, and will hold the heads of those who have fallen into the socialist pool under until the last feeble twitch.  And that includes the lefties in this country - they are not that far left. 

George Soros and the rest of the floating corpses will likely continue the pollute the waters for a while but the decomposition has started and they will wind up bloated and alone. 

That's the hope I can believe in.

 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 19, 2010 08:28 AM (r1h5M)

58
The purpose of The Constitution is not to govern The People, it is to govern the government.

Yes, but if you listen to Wee Wee's take on the Constitution, he sees it as a limiting document that doesn't do enough to redistribute wealth 'justice' to the victims of western society.

We can only hope he does go away when he loses in '12, instead of appointing himself El Presidente for life.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 08:29 AM (fx8sm)

59

Technically they only had the 60 Senate votes in 7 July when Franken slithered his way in.

Also, up to then it didn't matter. The Presidency was a "success" as of July; in that Obama got the bailouts, stimulus, and commissars ("czars") he wanted.

So the failure your post mentions should refer to the second half year where there were 60 votes, hubris, and overreach.

/nitpick

Posted by: Zimriel at February 19, 2010 08:31 AM (9Sbz+)

60 It is clear that there has been a fundamental mistake. The One was elected President of the United States of America.

Unfortunately, this was not the right nation. He was seeking a nation -- of roughly the same name and the same resources -- that his spouse could be proud of, that was seeking to spread the wealth around, and that had a populace of more enlightened, genteel people. That way, when he brought his team in from the political cesspit of Chicago, Great Things could be accomplished.

Where, oh where, might this other nation be found? I, for one, would dearly love to send Obama there post haste, in hope of putting things right.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 19, 2010 08:32 AM (u+gbs)

61 @ 6 And the Rhythm Method.

I love it. Communism: The Rhythm Method of societal organization.

Posted by: Vile Roman at February 19, 2010 08:32 AM (iBzKc)

62 52
Both Lautenberg and Byrd will not see 2011.

My words, mark them.

Them what dies will be the lucky ones.

Posted by: L.J. Silver at February 19, 2010 08:34 AM (NLZLH)

63 The picture of the Dalai Lama going out the back door of the WH past the garbage is classic.

Posted by: Rocks at February 19, 2010 08:34 AM (Q1lie)

64

I fear that the Dims are still gonna ram Deathcare down our throats. 

Whether they succeed or not, they (at least Obama) will never give this up.  Obama will harp on this and beat this the entire time he is in office, and forever after every time he gets in front of a microphone.

 

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 08:34 AM (t21Ab)

65

Obama isn't failing because conservatives lie or cheat. Obama is failing because he's an ideologue who wrapped his hard left agenda in a gauzy film of Hope and Change. Now that people have gotten a look at what it really means they are rejecting it.

Well said young man, You should head my new joint venture w/Vivid & Nascar...ASS-Car

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 08:36 AM (pr+up)

66 64 The picture of the Dalai Lama going out the back door of the WH past the garbage is classic.

Posted by: Rocks at February 19, 2010 12:34 PM (Q1lie)


You know, that picture looks as if all of the trash is in the same color bags...Where are the recyclables?  Where is the compost heap? 

Posted by: Hedgehog at February 19, 2010 08:37 AM (oQIfB)

67 What is truly sad is that the worst snark that I can come up with will seem pathetically weak by next year.  FML

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at February 19, 2010 08:37 AM (8zQxF)

68

58 Hussein And that includes the lefties in this country - they are not that far left

I think you're right. That Stack guy was in his heart an anti-authoritarian. He just swam in leftist culture. If he hadn't been insane he'd have been running some blog somewhere. And we'd be linking to his last note, which wouldn't be a suicide note in this contrafactual, as "an excellent rant by a lefty mugged by reality".

I'm seriously wondering how many of the Left bloggers are working on their suicide notes these days.

If they're reading this: please don't blow shit up, we've got enough crazy as it is. Edit your rant and post it instead.

Posted by: Zimriel at February 19, 2010 08:37 AM (9Sbz+)

69 O/T:  This has been mentioned a lot in the threads and now an article:  "Obama & Dems to Ram Through Unpopular Health Care Bill With 51 Votes"

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 08:38 AM (p302b)

70 O/T:  I see that Alex Jones is first out of the box on a new troofer theory.  It seems that the government staged the Stack kamikaze mission yesterday to discredit the Tea Party Movement.  Way to go, Alex.  I can always count on you to bring the crazy. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 08:39 AM (xxgag)

71 America "Ungovernable"? That's kinda the point of America [We The People, etc], ain't it?

Posted by: Faye Kinnit at February 19, 2010 08:40 AM (l1oyw)

72

The picture of the Dalai Lama going out the back door of the WH past the garbage is classic

I'll be honest. I really don't like the Dalai Lama. I still don't get why he is revered in teh western world, or considered some kind of wise sage. He's lived a life of luxury while he country is colonized and outbred by the Han Chinese. He has accomplished absolutlely nothing for his people or for anyone else.

He is essentially a hollywood celebrity, not a political figure fighting for the freedom of his people.

If he really wanted to bring attention to tibet or free them he would take the money he has, buy weapons and smuggle them into tibet or at the very least try to re-enter tibet. If he was arrested upon entering then maybe people would pay attention to the cause if he was a political prisoner. Nelson Mandella wasn't respected because he fled the country and waited the Apartheid government out.

I hate the Dalai Lama.

Posted by: Ben at February 19, 2010 08:40 AM (wuv1c)

73

cthulhu: Where, oh where, might this other nation be found? I, for one, would dearly love to send Obama there post haste, in hope of putting things right.

Burma.

His incompetence would inspire a popular uprising which would, finally, make the place the Asian tiger it deserves to be. Its current regime is, unfortunately, competent - at staying in charge.

Posted by: Zimriel at February 19, 2010 08:40 AM (9Sbz+)

74

After all, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission, right?

I hate this policy.  It's permission for egomaniacs and control freaks to do what they want with no regard to anyone else's feelings, needs or rights.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 08:41 AM (t21Ab)

75 When members of the majority party join with members of the minority party in opposing a bill, then it is a very bad bill.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 19, 2010 08:43 AM (O9Cc8)

76

73

Yes, but he is an icon for World Peace to the unthinking masses.  I hope the masses see the symbolism of the Icon being snuck out the "servant's entrance".

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 08:44 AM (t21Ab)

77 O/T   LA rapper Sky Blu was the thug who attacked Romney on the flight from Vancouver.  Typical.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 19, 2010 08:44 AM (UOM48)

78 How to distinguish between theoretical communism and real communism:

Theoretical communism = no mass murder

Real c9mmunism = mass murder

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 08:44 AM (xxgag)

79

I'm seriously wondering how many of the Left bloggers are working on their suicide notes these days.

If they're reading this: please don't blow shit up, we've got enough crazy as it is. Edit your rant and post it instead.

Bicycle bomb?

Posted by: maddogg at February 19, 2010 08:45 AM (OlN4e)

80

America "Ungovernable"?

That's kinda the point of America [We The People, etc], ain't it?


Betcha.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 08:45 AM (t21Ab)

81 The Dalai Lama, like all men, is meh and unto meh he shall return.  FML

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at February 19, 2010 08:45 AM (8zQxF)

82 20 Maybe this is why my best friend and I differ in the opnion of Che being a douche bold for emphasis). She tells me his revolution got all fucked up. Hahahaha.- no shit? Geesus. Scary. Posted by: defenduUSA at February 19, 2010 12:08 PM (Kt4Bp) Some revolutions live two hundred-odd years while others are born still; but fuck ups are orphans, they say.

Posted by: BuddyPC at February 19, 2010 08:45 AM (6FB0z)

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 08:46 AM (fx8sm)

84 75

After all, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission, right?

I hate this policy.  It's permission for egomaniacs and control freaks to do what they want with no regard to anyone else's feelings, needs or rights.


So they will do what they were going to do then.......

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at February 19, 2010 08:46 AM (8zQxF)

85

"Ungovernable"

Translation:  All you necks and your Constitution!!!

P.J. O'Rourke was right:  Liberalism is the ideology of spoiled children.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 19, 2010 08:47 AM (B+qrE)

86

DrewM says, "Ask a die hard lefty about the failure of socialism and communism everywhere it's been tried and they will simply tell you it's never really been tried as intended."

Look no further than that idiot sevant, Paul Krugman, (paraphrasing) ". . . the problem is we havn't spent enough, and neither did Roosevelt."

 

Posted by: bullwhacker at February 19, 2010 08:47 AM (aMpG9)

87

Does NJ appoint replacements or hold special elections? And thank God for Chris Christie!

Posted by: joncelli at February 19, 2010 12:19 PM (RD7QR)

I should probably no the answer to this, I don't (hangs head in shame) FAIL!!  

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 08:48 AM (pr+up)

88 Ben @ 77

I think a lot of the appeal of the Dali Lama is because he is a symbol of a culture that incorporates the recreational use of narcotics.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 19, 2010 08:48 AM (OtQXp)

89

Purple Avenger, you are the Man. +1, Gold Star, for all your early remarks.

Anyone who waxes poetic about the grandness of the authoritarian ChiComs and also decries the studied, logical, remarkable forethought and targeted, intelligent structure of our Constitution should DIE IN A FIRE.

Seriously. Long live the Republic.

Posted by: Miller at February 19, 2010 08:48 AM (oHmsT)

90

75: maybe Obama will still ram it through, but as Drew said a few days ago, if they had the votes, they would've done so already.

 

Unfortunately, Newt's brain has been botoxed from sitting too close to Pelosi for too long, and is now trying to f*ck us over.

Posted by: eddiebear at February 19, 2010 08:48 AM (wnU1W)

91

Good news: Lautenberg's cancer is limited to one tumor easily removed with surgery.

Bad news: Murtha's surgeon is the one who's going to remove the tumor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 08:49 AM (P33XN)

92 It is clear that there has been a fundamental mistake. The One was elected President of the United States of America.

Unfortunately, this was not the right nation.

Hillary had the same problem. Through a cruel quirk of fate, she was not born in Argentina.

Posted by: arhooley at February 19, 2010 08:50 AM (DVFUM)

93 This goes well with the MahaRushie.

Posted by: Flavius Julius at February 19, 2010 08:52 AM (NLZLH)

94

Hillary had the same problem. Through a cruel quirk of fate, she was not born in Argentina.

Don't Cry for Me, Bill Clinton. 

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 08:53 AM (P33XN)

95 I don't think China is anything like capitalist. It's probably a lot closer to fascist now - personally totalitarian, but with some flexibility in business (and iron-clad public/private partnerships). Still, you have to loosen the stranglehold on business just a little (fascism) to keep from, you know, strangling it.

Posted by: Ella at February 19, 2010 08:54 AM (FGaum)

96

Hillary had the same problem. Through a cruel quirk of fate, she was not born in Argentina.

Don't Cry for Me, Bill Clinton. Vincent Foster

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 12:53 PM (P33XN)

Fits better music-wise.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 19, 2010 08:55 AM (OtQXp)

97 Any News on Argentina and the Empire?

Posted by: Flavius Julius at February 19, 2010 08:55 AM (NLZLH)

98 Communism works, in theory.

Yeah, if your theory postulates that people share more characteristics with bees and ants then they actually you know, do.

Of any state to really push the envelope as far as transforming it's denizens into a more bee-like or ant-like people you've really got to give North Korea some credit, at least with respect to those living in the Pyongyang hive.

Nevertheless, it is a rather severely and selectively limited "success" even though the governing class of NK has at their disposal the kinds of tools helpful to "impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century" that a Thomas Friedman can only dream of.

Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 08:56 AM (aVzyR)

99 Obama's problem is that he doesn't want to govern, he wants to rule.

Americans don't cotton to being ruled very easily.

Fortunately, Obama is too arrogant to realize this, so his tenure will be short-lived.

Posted by: DarthRove at February 19, 2010 08:57 AM (W1DMG)

100 That's kinda the point of America [We The People, etc], ain't it?


Betcha.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 12:45 PM (t21Ab)


Sarah-cuda  ... That You?

Posted by: Paladin at February 19, 2010 08:57 AM (ho4I5)

101 The libs explain away the failure of communism in the 20th century the same way the old man running the fun house who faked a haunting yells at Scooby Doo and the gang. "It would have worked, if it weren't for you pesky kids." In this analogy, the US and capitalism stand in for the stoner teenage detectives.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 19, 2010 08:58 AM (mHQ7T)

102

Communism works, in theory

Only if theory ignores the reality of human nature.  That's why it doesn't work.  Because human nature will not give their all for the dead-beat down the block.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 08:59 AM (t21Ab)

103

from Reds:

when you purge dissent, you kill the revolution. the revolution IS dissent.

 

it happens in most revolutions; French, Russian, Chinese, Cuban, etc. and why they turn to shit. they can't stand competing ideas.

 

the founders built dissent (competing ideas) into our system and it's why the American Revolution is still alive.

Posted by: PR at February 19, 2010 08:59 AM (k7SeR)

104 O/T:  Curtis Arledge of Blackrock was just on CNBC.   At one point one of the other four "guests" screamed at him "would you lend your money at these rates to the federal government for thirty years?"  His answer was yes he would which was fascinating.  Hope they post the exchange so I can post it here.

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 09:01 AM (p302b)

105 DrewM, it's no help to the conservative movement to be arguing over communism or defunct governments.  Western Europe is where the arguments need to be made.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 09:01 AM (GgR+e)

106

Any News on Argentina and the Empire?

You mean the current troubles regarding Las Islas Malvinas?

No. Haven't heard anything.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 19, 2010 09:02 AM (cQyWA)

107 Communism works, in theory.

Yeah, if your theory postulates that people share more characteristics with bees and ants then they actually you know, do.

Of any state to really push the envelope as far as transforming it's denizens into a more bee-like or ant-like people you've really got to give North Korea some credit, at least with respect to those living in the Pyongyang hive.

Nevertheless, it is a rather severely and selectively limited "success" even though the governing class of NK has at their disposal the kinds of tools helpful to "impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century" that a Thomas Friedman can only dream of.

Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 12:56 PM (aVzyR)

Christopher Hitchens explained in an article in Slate a few weeks ago that North Korea is not communist at all.  They are a fascist, racist, military dictatorship.  Nothing like communism at all.



Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 09:03 AM (xxgag)

108 I can't believe I've never seen a photoshop of Friedman wearing a Mao cap.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 09:03 AM (P33XN)

109 Communism works, in theory

I think many posters are not noticing the name (e.g. sockpuppet) attached  to the comment. It wasn't a serious post.

Posted by: taylork at February 19, 2010 09:03 AM (0Hn5w)

110

104 the founders built dissent (competing ideas) into our system and it's why the American Revolution is still alive.

Exactly, but now the leftists equate the revolution with racism, unless of course they are doing the revolting.  

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 09:04 AM (pr+up)

111 DrewM, it's no help to the conservative movement to be arguing over communism or defunct governments.  Western Europe is where the arguments need to be made.

Yeah, because Marxists are just so damned irrelevant here and now.

Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 09:05 AM (aVzyR)

112 the leftists equate the revolution with racism, unless of course they are doing the revolting. 

Yes, I agree the "Leftists" are Revolting....Positively Revolting!  As the Great One would often say.

Posted by: Paladin at February 19, 2010 09:07 AM (ho4I5)

113 Krauthammer's piece today is positively brilliant.  Even the staunchest Democrats agree Carter was an utter failure, and Krauthammer just drew an irrefutable parallel between Jimmeh and Barreh.

Posted by: GulfCoastTider at February 19, 2010 09:11 AM (ClZ5D)

114 so...the Northeastern blueblood Republicans are wrong and out of touch...unless you agree with them? (Krauthammer, Parker, Noonan...)

 ...and I thought conservatives didn't like FDR and had serious questions about Teddy R's progressive ideology. Of course, strong presidents are evil...unless they are conservative Republicans.

 ...the Senate filibuster is a bad thing...unless and until Republicans use it...

 Special interests blocking policy changes is a bad thing...unless it's a conservative or Republican special interest group...

 Same/same as the liberals and progressive Democrats. It's all quite unpatriotic...even, un-Constituional...unless you're the ones doing it.

 (Remember: Campaign finance reform means reforming the system so that your favorite politician isn't 'legally' corrupt.)

 Let's see, here....Super Bowl last month. Olympics this month. What kinds of bread and circuses are scheduled for next month?

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at February 19, 2010 09:12 AM (oeESr)

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 09:12 AM (fx8sm)

116 Who is this Obama you commoners are prattling on about?

Posted by: Cha5rlie Gibson at February 19, 2010 09:13 AM (8zQxF)

117

As the Great One would often say.

Jackie Gleason?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 09:14 AM (P33XN)

118 #112 Europe has Marxists, but overall, the EU countries aren't totalitarian; you need to address that.  Harbing on Moscow, is intellectually lazy, to unhelpful.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 09:15 AM (GgR+e)

119

What pisses me of about our current miserable leader is that the MSM is so esconsed in the Barry camp that important issues like the exploding homeless and hunger problems in this country go unreported:

http://tinyurl.com/35b7wl

Bush would have been burned at the stake every morning by the MSM for this situation.  But because it's Barry the Magnificient, he gets a pass.

These people - and their children - deserve a simple three letter word -

J O B S.

It aint right.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 19, 2010 09:16 AM (r1h5M)

120 O/T from Weaselzippers:  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so the progressives are now imitating the Tea Partiers with a group known as the Brownbaggers.   (The Brown Shirts was apparently already taken.)  Their new slogan is "Health care not warfare."  There is no problem so big that it can't be solved with a new slogan.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 09:18 AM (xxgag)

121
Face it, Obama,
if you can't pass your agenda with a huge majority in Congress...

YOUR AGENDA STINKS.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:18 AM (jVldi)

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 09:20 AM (p302b)

123 109 I can't believe I've never seen a photoshop of Friedman wearing a Mao cap.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 19, 2010 01:03 PM (P33XN)

Ask and ye shall receive: Thomas Friedman hearts Mao

Posted by: conscious works on his photoshop skills at February 19, 2010 09:20 AM (Vu6sl)

124 Wow...  Michele Bachmann is teh shiznit. 

Posted by: GulfCoastTider at February 19, 2010 09:20 AM (ClZ5D)

125

Ask a die hard lefty about the failure of socialism and communism everywhere it's been tried and they will simply tell you it's never really been tried as intended.

Mention "free markets" to a lefty and they instantly replace the term with "unfettered capitalism." That's never really been tried either.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 19, 2010 09:21 AM (cQyWA)

126
^
Sounds like the treasonous freaks from Code Pink have 'shifted gears' and changed their cause.

Posted by: This Sees Dead People at February 19, 2010 09:21 AM (jVldi)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 09:21 AM (2qU2d)

128 Christopher Hitchens explained in an article in Slate a few weeks ago that North Korea is not communist at all.  They are a fascist, racist, military dictatorship.  Nothing like communism at all.

I think that the relevant quote from that article is this one:

Myers makes a persuasive case that we should instead regard the Kim Jong-il system as a phenomenon of the very extreme and pathological right. It is based on totalitarian "military first" mobilization, is maintained by slave labor, and instills an ideology of the most unapologetic racism and xenophobia.

Sorry. Not buying Hitch. It rests on the premise that militarism, racism, and xenophobia are not only the defining characteristics of the right but also entirely incompatible with the left.

Nope, these are the pathologies that leftism is most susceptible to and when leftist and communists inevitably succumb to these pathologies on their pre-determined descent into a slave state, their apologists point to this as evidence that the regime has "moved to the right".

Bullshit.

Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 09:24 AM (aVzyR)

129 "Sestak says federal job was offered to quit race""After yesterday's taping, Sestak said he recalled the White House offer coming in July, as he was preparing to formally announce his Senate candidacy in August. He declined to identify who spoke to him or the job under discussion. Sestak also would not say whether the person who approached him worked for the administration or was an intermediary for the offer."

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 09:25 AM (p302b)

130
That Sestak story deserves a thread, much more so than freaking nascar.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 09:27 AM (fx8sm)

131 O/T:  It speaks for itself:  "RomneyÂ’s Alleged Plane Attacker Was LA Rapper Sky Blu"

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 01:20 PM (p302b)

Sky says Romeny used a "Vulcan grip" on him.  That does it.  I'm voting for Romeny.  I can see it now. Pelosi is flapping her meat, "We need botox subsidies for the poor blah, blah, blah . . ." and Romney just sneaks up behind her and she goes beddy bye.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 19, 2010 09:27 AM (xxgag)

132

Perhaps we need to install a dictator for life and burn that pesky constitution? 
Bill O'Reilly's working on it. [Via linkiest.]

Posted by: andycanuck at February 19, 2010 09:29 AM (2qU2d)

133
Perhaps we need to install a dictator for life and burn that pesky constitution? 
Bill O'Reilly's working on it. [Via linkiest.]

Bloody Irish.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 19, 2010 09:30 AM (fx8sm)

134

"After all, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission, right?"

That's what I'm hoping for!

   

Posted by: Tigerrrrr at February 19, 2010 09:33 AM (pUO5u)

135 @ 129 It rests on the premise that militarism, racism, and xenophobia are not only the defining characteristics of the right but also entirely incompatible with the left.

Well said. I detest these contemporary attempts to exonerate Leftism from odious practices. The notion that somehow concepts such as militarism, racism, etc. are endemic to the political Right is ridiculous -- it's an attempt to redefine historical Leftist icons as Stalin, Lenin and Mao (and to be fair, Hitler) as somehow less than Left. It's the Left's way of wanting to exert their definitions of what comprises a Rightist ideology, and it pisses me off.

Posted by: Vile Roman at February 19, 2010 09:34 AM (iBzKc)

136

Boy, the Left is really going at this ungovernable/obstructionism meme hammer and sickel, aren't they?

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at February 19, 2010 09:34 AM (w41GQ)

137 As Drew mentioned, the filibuster is singled out as a villain in most of these pieces.

And as Krauthammer points out, the Democrat hack Paul Krugman thought it was a wonderful tool to stop Bush judicial nominees, but now must retire to his fainting couch because the Republicans are using it to put the brakes on Obamacare.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 19, 2010 09:35 AM (JkUVD)

138 @ 138 . . . the Democrat hack Paul Krugman . . .

Gawd, I loathe that odious twit -- especially since my unrelenting, unthinking Lefty in-laws rely on his input as political gospel.

Posted by: Vile Roman at February 19, 2010 09:39 AM (iBzKc)

139

Yep, the system did work, both with Obamacare and with amnesty a while back. Both were situations where the majority of the politicians wanted to jam something wildly unpopular down our throats. In both cases, enough of them finally realized how strongly people felt, and the utopian dreams had to be put on hold.

Problem is, liberals never give up with their scheming for power. They will simply try to get around the people's will another way.

Posted by: RM at February 19, 2010 09:39 AM (GkYyh)

140 #132 So, Vulcans in ST symbolize LDS?  WOW.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 09:39 AM (GgR+e)

141

"#112 Europe has Marxists, but overall, the EU countries aren't totalitarian;"

The EU itself is getting there, and it certainly not politically free, what with the predetermined elections to hand rule over to distant beaurocrats.

Posted by: Randy at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (zQKSr)

142 133/134 YEAH LMAO, I caught Bill O, last night w/the Oathkeeper dude, O'Creilly was absolutely flummexed when the guy toldhim that it was unconstitutional to take a persons gun, even in a "state of emergency" The Oathkeeper dude had a great line (para) the gov't can't take your guns, even if there is a big thunderstorm coming. Bill was almost speechless...priceless.

Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 09:41 AM (pr+up)

143

"so...the Northeastern blueblood Republicans are wrong and out of touch...unless you agree with them? (Krauthammer, Parker, Noonan...)"

 Would never lump Krauthammer in with Noonan and Parker and don't see how you came up with that analogy. 

Posted by: RM at February 19, 2010 09:46 AM (GkYyh)

144 And thus the drumbeat begins...

Until we have a Constitutional "crisis" a la the Healtcare "crisis" or the Climate Change "crisis" that can only be solved by sweeping "reform" from D.C. that you need to sign onto NOW!!! or else all will be lost...

I would be bored to tears by all of this if it weren't so palpably effective.

Posted by: Deety at February 19, 2010 09:47 AM (aVzyR)

145 #143, EU needs to be the focus.  France is the #1 vacation destination in the world.  It's a place that looks great on the surface, even if it's rotting just below the surface.  Pointing to communism is a strawman in 2010.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 19, 2010 09:49 AM (GgR+e)

146 Dueling Friedmans:

Tom -  "One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages."

Milton - "People worry about government waste; I don't. I just shudder at what would happen to freedom in this country if the government were efficient in spending our money."

Which one is the jackass?

Posted by: Mr. Wolf at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (I6wB4)

147 Posted by: dananjcon at February 19, 2010 01:41 PM (pr+up)

I had enough of o'really after the Sarah palin interview the other night.  I hate the way, if you want to keep your job on the show, he always has to have the last word and be right.  he is a true ego maniac.  Have seen tape of him in a dingy beige raincoat as the police reporter years ago on the local NY fox channel, he was a no body.  A lot of people are getting annoyed by his PC attitude.  He refuses to take a stand on anything and he seems to cow tow to the administration.  Guess he thinks the libs are watching so he can alienate his original audience.

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (p302b)

148 << The implication is that the filibuster is an anti-democratic gimmick that thwarts the will of the people. >> It's a good thing they felt that way when we were batting around the "nuclear option." Oh, wait, no, they didn't, they portrayed themselves and their mythical "right" to thwart legitimate executive power as the only thing standing between us and tyranny. Suckers of cock, every one of them.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at February 19, 2010 09:51 AM (FCn6Y)

149 #123, I know Skye Blue the porn star, very large bolt-ons, specializes in lesbian S&M/bondage movies. Never heard of a rapper by that name.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at February 19, 2010 09:55 AM (GgXZc)

150 Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at February 19, 2010 01:55 PM (GgXZc)

I don't follow rap music at all.  I think it's stupid, not music at all.  So I don't know, but the blogger seems to know so I figured it was funny.

Posted by: curious at February 19, 2010 09:58 AM (p302b)

151 Ungovernable? I don't think that word means what they think it means.


Posted by: The Spaniard at February 19, 2010 11:25 AM (2rB+t)

152
That's pretty much how I explain The Won's inability to deliver on his promises to a lefty lawyer type. 

Don't blame the Republicans - they could have stayed home, and the Dems would still be able to convene a quorum of the House & Senate - blame Obama and his team of geniuses for farming out the content of actual bills to the brain trust of Pelosi and Reid. The Big Chair in the Oval Office doesn't have a
present option.

But it's much easier to blame Congress if you haven't written your own bills...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 19, 2010 11:27 AM (1hM1d)

153 So funny to hear that the filbuster is now part of the constitution that shouldn't change. I remember when this very board wanted to throw it out the window. As with all political sites, this one has no memory when the tide turns. Dems, Repubs... same stupid story, different side.

Posted by: Bill at February 19, 2010 11:35 AM (MN+T/)

154 Your memory is long on time but short on facts; we wanted to end the filibuster of JUDICIAL nominees, a very recent reinvention of filibuster rules. We said nothing about the legislative filibuster.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at February 19, 2010 11:39 AM (FCn6Y)

155

151 -- Known biblically?

 

I've always considered the ungovernablity of the American people to be a plus in our favor.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 19, 2010 11:48 AM (5/yRG)

156

 "Tom Friedman, waxing poetic about the efficiency of the Chinese authoritarian model, "

I just linked to the pic 128 posted of Friedman's sprawling abode. At first glance I thought it was that other shit John Hairheads'.

Posted by: kallisto at February 19, 2010 02:02 PM (+FkcS)

157 Communism, doesn't work because it denies human nature. People produce because they get some kind of reward or recognition for what they do. This is the biggest motivating factor that propels a capitalist economy forward. The problem with the current spate of democrats is that when you get down to it they simply do not believe in representative government. They represent an ideology, not "The People." As one democratic "operative" once told me, "...we are taking over the banks, the corporations, and health care. If you don't like it, you better get used to it! Obama was upfront about his agenda. People, if they were paying attention, knew what they were voting for, and if they didn't know then they are too stupid to matter." Yes, these are the words of a dem operative. His opinion? Oh, that they are just going to do what they want despite the wished of the vast majority of the American people. In his opinion, he's right, the socialist/communist agenda is morally "right," and therefore, it is okay to inflict it upon the polus. Dems do not believe in representative government, they do not CARE what people want. They, the dems, are beholden to an ideology that has brought nothing but death and destruction to any country that has put it into practice. 100 million people have died under communism, and one has to wonder just how many more deaths it will take before the leftists wake up and realize that this is a theory that simply does not work?

Posted by: mistress overdone at February 19, 2010 02:11 PM (2/oBD)

158 America ungovernable? Stop teasing.

Posted by: Ken at February 19, 2010 05:04 PM (vT7rz)

159 Why do so many people think China has stopped being communist? What drugs are you taking??

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 19, 2010 05:10 PM (PQY7w)

160 America has chosen to govern itself, via the only levers of power over its rogue government it has left.

Actually, there are one or two levers left (see Amendments, US Constitution, Second).

After all, it's easier to beg for forgiveness than ask permission, right?

I hate this policy.  It's permission for egomaniacs and control freaks to do what they want with no regard to anyone else's feelings, needs or rights.

Posted by: katya at February 19, 2010 12:41 PM (t21Ab)

It is also how good things get done in spite of the egomainacs and control freaks who are currently in charge.  I have often used the tactic (also known as UNODIR, UNless Otherwise DIRected) myself. 

Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

The policy I hate is the one that says "if you aren't doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about."  History proves otherwise.

Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 20, 2010 01:27 AM (jpf1B)

161 Americans are supposed to be 'governed' by the state.    We are the masters, not gov - if that pisses off Obama and the dems - so be it.  Bring it on even more...

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