January 05, 2010
— Ace Some headline, huh?
Some commenters asked who she was. Well, she's either a talented or semi-talented (I go back and forth on that) pop tart. The weird thing is that she emulates not just Madonna but Alice Cooper.
Here's a vid that made me say, "Whoa." Stick to it until the end. There's shock moments here, but they're not, at long last, about sex.
Is that good? I sort of think it is. But even if it's not... Okay, I've seen lesbian kiss shock moments, I've seen gay kiss shock moments, I've seen see-through dress/no bra shock moments, I've seen wardrobe malfunction shock moments, I've seen... more lesbian kiss shock moments...
All the four or five shock moments I'm supposed to be stunned by even seeing them for the six bazillionth time.
But I've never seen that. And I wasn't expecting anything like that.
So... I dunno. I was surprised. I think, for once, I actually was, in fact, shocked.
That's something.
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Whoa that's messed up. And entirely pointless, bizarre, and, um, queer. Yup. Queer's the word.
Posted by: Cowboy at January 05, 2010 09:10 PM (zwrlc)
Posted by: Christopher Calandro at January 05, 2010 09:11 PM (JdbYk)
Posted by: exceller at January 05, 2010 09:13 PM (Z7Znk)
Yeah...
That was pretty... grotesque.
Everywhere I turn, I see her face somewhere.
I guess she's, like, super talented, or something.
I guess.
Posted by: 12thMonkey at January 05, 2010 09:14 PM (fZzaW)
her songs tend to be all over the place w/ strange subjects
Posted by: YRM at January 05, 2010 09:15 PM (xNw7B)
I like her one song "Paparazzi" which she's starting with. Other than that one song, I don't see the appeal.
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:15 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:16 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2010 09:17 PM (kwNGE)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:17 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:17 PM (gofDd)
Never before in my life have I agreed with Fred Phelps on just about anything. Maybe I can't speak for God, but I hate her.
Posted by: Keith at January 05, 2010 09:18 PM (4mDwj)
Posted by: MlR at January 05, 2010 09:20 PM (op9m5)
Posted by: Aaron at January 05, 2010 09:20 PM (pVvKc)
Posted by: MlR at January 05, 2010 09:21 PM (op9m5)
Posted by: EC at January 05, 2010 09:21 PM (iWj1i)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 09:21 PM (dQdrY)
"Paparazzi" is the only good song. "Bad Romance" and "Poker Face" are just irritating.
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:21 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Smapty at January 05, 2010 09:22 PM (LKMlX)
A girl hanging by a rope with red stuff on her face? What am I missing?
The blood running down from her heart, past her crotch?
The Lynching?
Posted by: Stayfresh at January 05, 2010 09:28 PM (d7Px0)
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:32 PM (gofDd)
...another half-talented desperate-for-fame tart who's realized that just flaunting the sex doesn't get the attention any more...
...not to mention she's tossing away a semi-decent voice on mind-numbingly idiotic songs like "Love Game"...
...and that sure as hell wasn't her playing the piano...
...not to mention the all time stupidest name in pop star history.
Posted by: g at January 05, 2010 09:32 PM (oEdB3)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:32 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:34 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: MlR at January 05, 2010 09:34 PM (op9m5)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 09:35 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: arhooley at January 05, 2010 09:35 PM (GKXA7)
I would call her a freak, but she might take that as a compliment.
Posted by: sickinmass at January 05, 2010 09:36 PM (Dxfei)
Posted by: Denver at January 05, 2010 09:36 PM (0J5PW)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 09:36 PM (dQdrY)
whoa. hold on a sec. MTV videos are about something? When the hell did MTV start playing videos?
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: blogRot at January 05, 2010 09:36 PM (IqNbu)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:38 PM (5EsuI)
Visually, Gaga ripped the Irish chanteuse Roisin (pronounced ra-SHEEN) Murphy, who's a solo act now but used to front a band called Moloko. Musically Murphy runs warp-speed rings around Gaga. Her best song is "Ramalama Bang Bang," but most of what she does is great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-duPPLhqe0
She can also sing live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d9nrrQGxzA&
And she's famous for being a totally eccentric hoofer--in high heels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CptOimqa5pY
Posted by: Eye-rish at January 05, 2010 09:40 PM (cVJwC)
Posted by: chemjeff at January 05, 2010 09:40 PM (Gk/wA)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:40 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2010 09:40 PM (kwNGE)
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 05, 2010 09:40 PM (DyEUW)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:41 PM (5EsuI)
"It has a real, genuine, powerful message about fame-whoring and death and the demise of the celebrity, and what that does to young people. The video explores ideas about sort of hyperbolic situations that people will go to in order to be famous. Most specifically, pornography and murder. These are some of the major themes in the video.
Uh, hon, I get the whole act & all, but you're fame-whoring your song about fame-whoring.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 05, 2010 09:41 PM (ubVcw)
Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at January 05, 2010 09:42 PM (erlfI)
Posted by: ace at January 05, 2010 09:43 PM (5EsuI)
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 05, 2010 09:44 PM (oLULt)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2010 09:47 PM (kwNGE)
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:48 PM (gofDd)
>>I would say she has a really good butt but those hermaphrodite rumors skeeve me out too much so I don't look.
She should stop wearing clothes that emphasize her crotch.. then ace won't worry about her sex.
Posted by: sickinmass at January 05, 2010 09:49 PM (Dxfei)
Posted by: jmchez at January 05, 2010 09:50 PM (W0h4C)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby
LAYERS
Posted by: Z Ryan at January 05, 2010 09:50 PM (cMo6P)
Thats why I paid for her music on iTunes (which otherwise, I loath): so she gets more popular.
Now if she could some how, properly, use some bacon in one of her videos...
Posted by: MoJoTee at January 05, 2010 09:51 PM (9qVYM)
Posted by: Hah at January 05, 2010 09:52 PM (8w7LN)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 09:54 PM (K/ufZ)
So we're down with the trannies but herms are too far?
Okay. You have to draw the line someplace.
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 05, 2010 09:56 PM (DyEUW)
Posted by: Hah at January 06, 2010 01:52 AM (8w7LN)
It could be the fact that pop music means nothing at all.
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 09:56 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Z Ryan at January 05, 2010 09:56 PM (cMo6P)
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Wha? What'd I miss?
Posted by: arhooley at January 05, 2010 09:58 PM (GKXA7)
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 09:58 PM (gofDd)
So we're down with the trannies but herms are too far?
I heard Herms aren't fully functioning, so a tranny conoseur wouldn't really dig them, would they?
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 09:58 PM (dQdrY)
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Same as Christina Aguilera, who will have morphed into her Cher phase by then. Christ, when is something new going to happen?
Posted by: arhooley at January 05, 2010 10:00 PM (GKXA7)
And Vincent was way, way, wayyyyy ahead of his time.
Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at January 05, 2010 10:00 PM (7+r4B)
Posted by: Emily M. at January 05, 2010 10:02 PM (g9kRs)
She should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame by next year the latest.
She may be emulating Alice but she has no friggin clue what Alice is.
It's sacrilege to even mention her in the same breath.
Posted by: Rocks at January 05, 2010 10:02 PM (OOgDc)
Posted by: Lady Gaga at January 05, 2010 10:08 PM (P2h1X)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:09 PM (K/ufZ)
And yes she was playing the piano, if you call that playing.
Posted by: Rocks at January 05, 2010 10:09 PM (OOgDc)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:11 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: di butler at January 05, 2010 10:12 PM (S3xX1)
Amen. I'll take trampy starlets over listening to the n-word and hos and bling and thugs.
Posted by: wherestherum at January 05, 2010 10:17 PM (gofDd)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 10:18 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Z Ryan at January 05, 2010 10:19 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:20 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:23 PM (K/ufZ)
And yeah, get off my lawn.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 05, 2010 10:23 PM (LtIsn)
Posted by: RJM at January 05, 2010 10:26 PM (o8iIu)
How about Lady Gag Me:
The love that dare not say its name...Sullivan and Johnson. http://tinyurl.com/ydftvu3
Charles Johnson explains his concerns here. He's particularly right about the kind of proto-fascist love of violence against "the other" that you see pulsating in the writing of, say, Michael Goldfarb or Robert Stacy McCain...
Then Andrew asks: "Tea anyone?"
Get a room will ya.
Posted by: Joe at January 05, 2010 10:26 PM (0Gde6)
Dude, she named herself after a Queen song ("Radio Ga Ga"). "Lady Gaga" is one of the LEAST stupid names in pop music history. Even if you think her music sucks, her name is still highly respectable. You fail rock history 101.
Posted by: wooga at January 05, 2010 10:27 PM (IhzyJ)
I would link to "Radio Ga Ga", or even Kajagoogoo, but PIXY is a c*nt who can't even explain his/her/it's own posting protocol.
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:29 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: XBradTC at January 05, 2010 10:29 PM (s+zWo)
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at January 05, 2010 10:29 PM (yVpel)
The other stuff was pointless theatrics.
But then, I'm old and I like classical music and jazz.
Posted by: Old Sailor at January 05, 2010 10:31 PM (/Ft4q)
Terrorists hate us because despite their Oxford educations, they can't figure out how to CORRECTLY POST TO M'F'ING ACE OF SPADES!!!11(eleven)!!
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:31 PM (K/ufZ)
Speaking of Alice Cooper, there was a rumour in the 70s that Alice and Frank Zappa had a gross out contest at a live show somewhere. Frank allegedly defecated on stage, then Alice stuck a microphone near a box of baby chickens and stomped them to death. Or vice versa.
I saw this event referenced roughly five years ago by a 20 something actress on a Canadian comedy tv show. I was surprised that this rumour was still being talked about in the 00s.
Runner up: Rod Stewart had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped after he felated the entire 7th fleet or the Glasgow Rangers.
Posted by: BoutrosBoutros at January 05, 2010 10:33 PM (KzKah)
Posted by: tkh at January 05, 2010 10:35 PM (pq986)
Posted by: Guy Fleegman (rdb) at January 05, 2010 10:37 PM (FFbSd)
Funny and shocking...especially Don Rickle's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7NNKsmiww
Posted by: tkh at January 05, 2010 10:42 PM (pq986)
Posted by: Guy Fleegman (rdb) at January 05, 2010 10:44 PM (FFbSd)
Posted by: XBradTC at January 05, 2010 10:45 PM (s+zWo)
Lady Gaga is 23. She taught herself to play the piano at the age of 3. She writes her own music and doesn't lipsync when most other singers do. Yes, she is a bit odd but I love her. She dig a 2hr concert in LA recently that rocked.
Posted by: rickrickrick at January 05, 2010 10:49 PM (Pvjv4)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 10:50 PM (K/ufZ)
Give the song a listen. After the chorus, she sings, "Pa-pa-pa-poker face. Fa-fa-fuck her face."
Or maybe I just have a dirty mind.
Posted by: (Sotto Voce) at January 05, 2010 11:00 PM (pYbyD)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 11:04 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Kanye West at January 05, 2010 11:09 PM (0oZ9P)
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, PEOPLE! (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, DR. SPANK.)
THAT. WAS. DRECK. SH*T. PUTRID. MOTHER. OF. F*CK. CR*P.
IT'S GOD D*MN BRITTNEY 2.0 GANG-RAPED BY ROB ZOMBIE!
IT.
SUCKS.
ASS.
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:16 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 05, 2010 11:20 PM (muUqs)
Here's how I do links: I just copy whatever link I want, go to tinyurl.com, paste it in, make short linky and paste here. Seems easy to me. I dont use all those linky things provided on sites. This always works.
As for GaGa, she is alright. But, I was a punk rocker. I still say the coolest nite of my life was when Sid Vicious blew snot at my feet.
Come on, I was 13. In a club. With a 19 yr old BF. Those WERE the good old days. Heh.
Dont you wish you could have been my parent????
Posted by: di butler at January 05, 2010 11:25 PM (S3xX1)
Britney back when she was hawt. Instead of a worn out slut
Hit Me Baby One More Time-Britney SpearsPosted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 05, 2010 11:28 PM (dQdrY)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:28 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Guy Fleegman (rdb) at January 05, 2010 11:30 PM (FFbSd)
Posted by: Patrick H at January 05, 2010 11:31 PM (o5cb9)
How to post a link at AosHQ :
1) Copy a link. Go to tiny.url.com and make it into a shorter link.
2) Write a sentence in the comment box. Highlight a word or words in the sentence.
3) Click on the icon at the top of the comment box that looks like a link next to the bucket icon (it's blue on my screen, 9th from the left).
4) In the bigger box to the far right of the word source, post your link. If it contains http, do Not choose http from the box just to the left.
5) Click insert, then ok.
6) Hit Post
Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 05, 2010 11:34 PM (muUqs)
Heh. It's a shame he can't even fucking talk coherently anymore.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 05, 2010 11:34 PM (LtIsn)
Posted by: MlR at January 06, 2010 01:20 AM (op9m5)
I was pretty shocked that Kanye didn't find an excuse to jump up onstage and act like the pompous ass he is.Posted by: Watcher at January 05, 2010 11:36 PM (QqhIY)
<link from Dr. Spank.>... It makes intuitive seem counter-intuitive!!!!
(Fine. I'll try it.) Thanks, Spankster!
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:36 PM (K/ufZ)
Terrible. And I say that as someone who likes girl-pop.
And girl-pops, but that's another story.
Posted by: XBradTC at January 05, 2010 11:36 PM (s+zWo)
color me underwhelmed, no matter *what* the hipsters say.
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 05, 2010 11:38 PM (d1FhN)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:44 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:48 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:49 PM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Guy Fleegman (rdb) at January 05, 2010 11:49 PM (FFbSd)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 05, 2010 11:52 PM (K/ufZ)
I don't know, but she's definately talented. I wonder if the thinking is: she has an unconventional face, so we'll draw attention away with a lot of other bullshit.
Mjolk alert! Mjolk alert! Dude wearing a mjolk! Dude wearing a mjolk! At 3:55 or so in the vid Ace posted.
Posted by: Guy Fleegman (rdb) at January 05, 2010 11:59 PM (FFbSd)
O'Reilly was incredulous.
Which made me dvr vh1's top 20 music videos of the year to keep up with what's going on in pop culture and I can always fast forward through the above mentioned crap.
Brittany Spears looks chunky munky and old hat now that we know her dirty laundry, she's overplayed.
The ONLY visually exciting video's were from Lady Gaga. They reminded me of Opera - where you don't know what the hell they're singing about, if its even in english, but the costume changes were great and the visuals were mind grabbing.
I saw the vh1 version of this song "paparazzi" so I was not surprised to see how she got her point across when doing a live performance, but I agree with Ace. It was....worth watching if for nothing else to know what's out there in the pop culture arena.
I think this is why Avatar did so well. Forget the 1 dimensional story line. It was visually exciting and that's what you want for mind altering experiences without the drugs. Same goes for Lady Gaga. She's putting on a show that's worthy of the great opera performers, and like opera, totally worthless bullshit in the long run, but a great ride while you're there for the price of the admin ticket.
Posted by: kay at January 05, 2010 11:59 PM (TW1NB)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 06, 2010 12:00 AM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: Arsonist at January 06, 2010 12:02 AM (K/ufZ)
Posted by: XBradTC at January 06, 2010 12:20 AM (s+zWo)
mjolk
Looks like it on small screen, but on Full Screen her brithes were just riding up on the R side.
Posted by: Aerosmith at January 06, 2010 12:22 AM (d7Px0)
Posted by: railwriter at January 06, 2010 12:53 AM (daRzV)
The amusing part of the story is that she's relating this little tidbit to her friend while eating dinner with her parents. Classy.
Also, if you ever get to meet her & don't like her, call her Stefanie. She despises being called her real name even by her friends.
Posted by: Buddy Bizarre at January 06, 2010 01:00 AM (Yn2A0)
Posted by: Still aghast at 2 am Pacific at January 06, 2010 01:50 AM (+Z5RN)
She looks like Andrea Martin from SCTV possesed by demons. However, anyone who can get Kanye West to shut up for 4 and a half minutes with his mouth hanging wide open in shock can't be all that bad.
Posted by: Blazer at January 06, 2010 01:52 AM (t72+4)
Jesus ace, you've really lost it.
Posted by: docweasel at January 06, 2010 02:02 AM (kgwdA)
http://tinyurl.com/yd7s5km (not a bad song either)
Posted by: dri at January 06, 2010 02:09 AM (7yxq9)
And the record industry is blaming illegal copying for their bad times and hauling grandma into court.
We haven't had a real music industry in this country since the late 70s.
MTV killed the music industry and this is a fine example. This excuse for a singer would have made zero priogress pushing this crap without TV or video to push it.
When you depend on video to market your product you are not marketing music. This ain't music.
Posted by: Vic at January 06, 2010 02:23 AM (QrA9E)
Judging by her name Stephanie Joanne Angelina Germanotta aka Lady Ga Ga is clearly a Nazi and a racist member of the Tea-Parties masquerading as a pop-star.
I have exposed yet again another right-wing extremist.
I bid you adieu.
Posted by: Charles Johnson at January 06, 2010 02:32 AM (t72+4)
<Yawn>
Well, at least the Pussycat Dolls are better eye candy than this anorexic harpy.
Every time I see her image, I think of of her as a size 2 Kabuki actor... and a bad one at that...
Posted by: IP Freely at January 06, 2010 02:34 AM (67aEn)
I've survived Slayer mosh pits.
I've survived Life of Agony shows.
I've been splashed by wine by Peter Steele at a Type O Negative show.
I like her voice.
I also like that the dancers she uses are, well, real lookin' women, and not scrawny twigs jerking around the stage.
I wouldn't go to one of her shows, but when Elizabeth and I are in the car and one of her songs comes on I can at least show interest for 3 minutes instead of grinding my teeth into dust as I usually do.
Posted by: Mortis at January 06, 2010 02:44 AM (hA5JK)
I disagree with the comparisons with Madonna. Look at Gaga's face - there's this emptiness to it. Madonna was and is full of personality, and that comes through in her performances; she's really good at connecting with and/or flirting with the audience. With Gaga, it's as if she's just going through the motions.
Is Gaga putting on a show? Yeah. Is it creative? Yeah, sure. But, if you take Gaga's video and compare it to, say, Madonna's Like a Prayer, I think you'll see what I mean. (By the way, I don't think Madonna's a great singer. Vocally, Gaga's definitely got a better voice. I was speaking more about the entertainment value.)
Posted by: sydneyj at January 06, 2010 02:45 AM (wogbZ)
Posted by: Vince at January 06, 2010 02:46 AM (GpQZ/)
Lady Gaga is 23. She taught herself to play the piano at the age of 3. She writes her own music and doesn't lipsync when most other singers do. Yes, she is a bit odd but I love her. She dig a 2hr concert in LA recently that rocked. Posted by: rickrickrick at January 06, 2010 02:49 AM (Pvjv4)
Rick, Rick, Rick: What was it that Lincoln said? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
186She looks like Andrea Martin from SCTV possesed by demons. However, anyone who can get Kanye West to shut up for 4 and a half minutes with his mouth hanging wide open in shock can't be all that bad.
Posted by: Blazer at January 06, 2010 05:52 AM (t72+4)
Indeed, indeed.
Posted by: Gagalump at January 06, 2010 02:53 AM (x0suh)
Posted by: Feh at January 06, 2010 03:05 AM (Hen++)
I may just have a filthy mind, but I can be entertained by a great ass. Throw in the ability to carry a tune and yeah, that's entertainment.
Of course its contrived, painfully so. But just think, she is going to keep topping herself. That means lots of nudity and lesbian stuff.
Posted by: knaws at January 06, 2010 03:16 AM (tHrW4)
Posted by: Bugler at January 06, 2010 03:17 AM (YCVBL)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at January 06, 2010 03:20 AM (22if9)
That's exactly the point. Watch the real video for the song and it makes more sense, even the "blood." The vid is the reason for the wheelchair and crutch.
For whatever reason, I like her music. I am definitely not her demographic (49-yo male), but there's something about it that interests me. Like ace said, she has a smokin' hot body except for the whole "she has a dick" rumor. It really makes you wonder.
Posted by: Steve L. at January 06, 2010 03:20 AM (Gkhxf)
I'm worried abiut you, Ace. I began watching the vid...couldn't handle it any more..so I scrolled forward to the "shocking ".part
I saw her hanging by her hand with red stuff on her...but then I waited for the shocking part...
*crickets*..
...seriously...that sucked
Just another talentless hack, who needs to try to shock or offend to get attention, that jumped on the caboose of the no-talent, but theatrical band wagon train. She is popular with teh gheys and 13 year old girls, though
I tend to like musicians for their...you know...music
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 03:24 AM (AnTyA)
1) Unlike most pop stars, she can actually play her songs and sing them without effects. (Maybe because she actually wrote them)
2) Before she was famous, she'd play Zeppelin in the same sorts of clubs I play.
Plus she sings her lead parts live.
Posted by: DM! at January 06, 2010 03:29 AM (34YIo)
Posted by: Feh at January 06, 2010 03:33 AM (Hen++)
Posted by: sTevo at January 06, 2010 07:12 AM
Good stuff. I have an uncle with a great LP collection, including all the Yes albums. Incedible muisicians. They were performers who actually had talent...and didn't have to throw fake blood on themselves for attention.
The stuff from Yes that made it to the radio was pretty much pap crap...Roundabout being the obvious exception.
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 03:34 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: CLP at January 06, 2010 03:41 AM (Oz2fX)
Here's a vid that made me say, "Whoa"
Funny. I have the same reaction every time I see some guy dancing w/a thong draped over his face...
(now go watch the vid again)
Posted by: Jess at January 06, 2010 03:45 AM (KSNkY)
Posted by: DM! at January 06, 2010 07:29 AM
I think you pretty much proved everyone's point with those links. The first shows she is an OK pianist...with a voice that would have limited her to doing background vocals on stage presentations
The second shows she wouldn't get pass the audition stage for a cruise ship act.
..but put a wig and skanky outfits on her... toss in some fake blood and VOILA...magic!!
To teh gheys and 13 year olds, that is
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 03:46 AM (AnTyA)
Lady Gaga, like so many people whose bread and butter is to "shock the squares", seems to be trapped in a time-warp where the squares are Doris Day and Jimmy Stewart.
Posted by: DoDoGuRu at January 06, 2010 03:47 AM (GXDYm)
Plus she sings her lead parts live
Wow...a singer who, um....sings. She's really setting the bar high, ain't she?
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 03:48 AM (AnTyA)
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"The stuff from Yes that made it to the radio was pretty much pap crap...Roundabout being the obvious exception."
Wonderous Stories is my fav, and pretty much everything on Fragile.
I see the current crop of preformers as whinning hand wringers with the talent of a collage of Campbell's soup can painter.
When I think of pop music, I see Al Green, Jim Croci, and a host of other mid-20th century folks whom walked the walk, but didn't have all the techno-mumbo-jumbo these adolesencts have, but still produced good product.
There are exceptions, but they're too few of the current pop-crop...
Posted by: IP Freely at January 06, 2010 03:50 AM (67aEn)
"Yawn! Crap! She's no Scorpions!"
Lighten up. I wasn't saying she's the Beatles, just that she is more entertaining to me than most pop acts. (Which, yes, does set the bar very low). But she writes good pop songs, like Eminem when he isn't writing something about raping lesbians.
Posted by: DM! at January 06, 2010 03:52 AM (34YIo)
Posted by: Deanna at January 06, 2010 03:53 AM (qxH/X)
Posted by: Corona at January 06, 2010 03:54 AM (woZIc)
Posted by: DM! at January 06, 2010 07:29 AM
That has to be one of the scariest things I have heard in a long time. Please tell me you made it up.
Posted by: Deanna at January 06, 2010 03:57 AM (qxH/X)
That she goes on stage and is performing in front of a live audience and blood begins to spout spontaneously from her is just an astonishing series of events. I can't think of a person who has told such an amazing story and had it go unquestioned.
Yet not a single journalist has done the basic journalism 101 here.
Some wish to focus on the question of whether she was really playing the piano. But I will not rest or relent until my personal quest to know the truth about the authenticity of that hemoglobin and plasma is answered. Is it truly hers...or perhaps Amy Winehouse's?
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 06, 2010 03:59 AM (GGulh)
Posted by: Bugler at January 06, 2010 03:59 AM (YCVBL)
More over-the-top, derivative, useless "performance art" from a hackish "artistic community" that has long ago ceased to be genuinely original.
Posted by: Good Lt. at January 06, 2010 04:06 AM (jH17H)
I see Al Green, Jim Croci
Agree 100%..."Let's Stay Together" and "Love and Happiness" are two of the best pop songs ever created
...and Croce...don't get me started..
..."...goin' now here freeee"
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 04:24 AM (AnTyA)
Maybe I'm just burnt out from seeing the constant promo's on my On Demand for a Shakira show. All thighs, no voice.
Posted by: Jaynie59 at January 06, 2010 04:24 AM (YjQWV)
Posted by: dagny at January 06, 2010 04:31 AM (/9RN+)
215 I think it is funny that some of you take her so seriously.
Umm...here that whoosh sound? That was actually the point flying past your head. I don't take her seriously...you apparently do.
The thread is here; therefore we comment
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 04:33 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Mrs. Compton at January 06, 2010 04:36 AM (NaJ/S)
Posted by: Kiss at January 06, 2010
Kiss was/were the King(s) of teh Suck back in the day. Do you know any Kiss fans who aren't total goofballs?
...Lady Gag Gag is just another of the countless rehashes of the same crap
Posted by: rum, sodomy and the lash at January 06, 2010 04:37 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: thebronze at January 06, 2010 04:38 AM (86F8f)
...Lady Gag Gag is just another of the countless rehashes of the same crap
P.T. Barnum is alive and well.
Posted by: nickless at January 06, 2010 04:39 AM (MMC8r)
A person pursues a Hollywood musical or acting career, and photographers take pictures of them, and stories are written about them, driving them to suicide after earning millions of dollars and sleeping with some of the most attractive people on Earth.
On the other hand, young and not-so-young men and women joined the U.S. armed services or overseas intelligence services and face loss of life and limb on a daily basis in return for a small salary, mediocre government health care, and being separated from their friends and families for extended periods of time... while being ordered not to "fraternize".
Why am I just not feeling it for Lada Gaga right now?
Posted by: Christoph at January 06, 2010 04:47 AM (0fq7b)
The only "shock moment" I could get from a modern musical performance is if someone went on stage and showed some class or natural talent.
Posted by: Crusty at January 06, 2010 04:50 AM (qzgbP)
Posted by: Christoph at January 06, 2010 04:51 AM (0fq7b)
What was it Marc Bolan of T-Rex once said? If you know how to rock, you don't have to shock...
Shock factor = *snore* anyway...
Posted by: maddogg at January 06, 2010 04:52 AM (OlN4e)
I can't see the clip, but when I first saw Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" music video recently on YouTube, I had one main thought...
"What's wrong with your face?!"
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 06, 2010 05:02 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: TheQuietman at January 06, 2010 05:09 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Christoph at January 06, 2010 05:11 AM (0fq7b)
If so, I'm sure she'll be walking away from it all any moment....
Posted by: nickless at January 06, 2010 05:13 AM (MMC8r)
Totally! Nebraska here he/she comes!
Posted by: Christoph at January 06, 2010 05:15 AM (0fq7b)
When I say regarding Canadian Forces and diplomatic staff, "we" have a higher casualty rate, of course I mean, "they".
I'm Canadian, and I'm not in their ranks and have no right to any of their credit.
Posted by: Christoph at January 06, 2010 05:18 AM (0fq7b)
Absolute shit. If I'm going to watch something so worthless, at least give me a close up of a decent camel toe.
Nice touch with the chick in the wheel chair. "We're all-inclusive no-talent hacks!"
Posted by: Sharkman at January 06, 2010 05:20 AM (Zj8fM)
After watching "So You Think You Can Dance" a few seasons, all these musical shows look as pathetic as they sound. Stagnant rot. And on the opposite side of desirable, watching "American Idol" has proven squalid.
McCartney
Lennon
David Gates
James Taylor
Carly Simon, et al.
Melody and harmonic modulatory progressions are a lost art in what's produced in Western pop culture that ranges from urban jungle rap through white trash to the monotonous "classical" Phillip Glass crap. Music is a window into the soul. When all that is represented is "the material world" then music sounds like death on Groundhog's day, repetitively numbing what would be sensitive into oblivion yet not destroying the longing for something "more".
Posted by: maverick muse at January 06, 2010 05:21 AM (+CLh/)
She's brilliant, though not really to my taste. There's nothing wrong with a bit a theatrics to distinguish one from the crowd, and she does that in spades.
Funny thing about her is that she went to an all-girls private Catholic school in the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Her parents were very involved in the school and very nice. She was a very normal-looking, normal acting kid. The one thing I loved (even more so in retrospect) was that the school encouraged singing above all other musical endeavors. I loved listening to the girls during Mass (held at the school once a week) and during the Christmas concerts. Beautiful.
I am not surprised to see some great talent coming out of there.
Posted by: Nomennovum at January 06, 2010 05:22 AM (U/1hh)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2010 05:24 AM (GQhsP)
Nice touch with the chick in the wheel chair. "We're all-inclusive no-talent hacks!"
Posted by: SharkmanGaga's video is subsequent pastiche to TV's "Glee".
Posted by: maverick muse at January 06, 2010 05:25 AM (+CLh/)
Posted by: arealmother at January 06, 2010 05:26 AM (BC2U/)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2010 05:26 AM (GQhsP)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2010 05:28 AM (GQhsP)
Meh. Her original songs (from the YouTube vid above) sound an awful lot like Alannis Morrisette. Not bad, but definitely not Fiona Apple. I'd give it a 65.
As a blues musician, I'd like to hear her try "At Last".
If I want theatre-rock, I'll take the Tubes every time. Shock, but in a funny way.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 06, 2010 05:29 AM (i3AsK)
Meh - this isn't so much. South Park basically did the same thing with a Brittany Spears episode last year, except Spears blew the top of her head off with a shotgun to escape the Paparazzi. She survived the blast and spent the rest of the episode walking around with her brains hanging out and girgling every time she spoke because, well, her mouth and the top of her head were gone.
Posted by: JDW at January 06, 2010 05:38 AM (uw+0A)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 06, 2010 05:38 AM (DPM1U)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 06, 2010 05:40 AM (DPM1U)
Reading between the lines of the interviews I have seen with her tells me that she was just a shy Jewish girl drowning in the social cliquiness of high school in NYC and the whole Lady Gaga thing was just a way to cover that all up.
There are times when I think she is putting one over on us, trying to say something about fame and culture with so many layers of irony Heidegger couldn't describe them adequately. And then there are times when I think she is a complete idiot.
She definitely isn't a man or hermaphrodite. No amount of "tucking" could get one into those outfits. Plus, think of all the costume changes, for the videos alone. People don't usually get into bleeding edge haute couture outfits on their own, they HAVE to be dressed, often by people not on your own staff but on the designers' staffs. Someone would have talked by now, probably multiple someones, especially given how powerful she is now and how much jealousy that must arouse.
What she reminds me of most is someone who would have been right at home in Andy Warhol's Factory. That has both ample good connotations and ample negative connotations, and I think all apply.
Posted by: arminius at January 06, 2010 05:45 AM (akHM/)
I heard she was an Amish spinstress and got sick of living on a farm without technology so she went to California and got into prOn. And then some record producer heard her sing and gave her a contract.
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Posted by: Andrew the Noisy at January 06, 2010 05:52 AM (V0QP1)
None of these so-called shock artists ever have the guts to do anything REALLY shocking.
Let her drop her drawers and take a dump on a picture of Obama onstage, THEN I'll be impressed.
Posted by: quadmegistus at January 06, 2010 05:53 AM (T1boi)
You've obviously never seen one of my shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK8L0b_T3Ms
Posted by: Alice Cooper at January 06, 2010 05:54 AM (UMwMT)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 06, 2010 05:56 AM (22if9)
Jesus.....Johnny Rotten was performing with bloody gobs of meat hanging around his neck in 1979. Now THAT was shocking. Slipknot is shocking. People in the audience at some of these deathcore shows do stuff that is far more shocking than anything Lady Gaga is doing.
I saw her video of "Bad Romance" the other night and thought it was pretty cool. At least her producers are thinking outside the box a little (and I use that term deliberately.) Her performance on SNL was the shit too.
But shocking? Nah.
Posted by: rockmom at January 06, 2010 06:16 AM (w/gVZ)
Posted by: Ozzy at January 06, 2010 06:18 AM (22if9)
No , getting nothing here, I wonder if deadliest catch is on? click.....
Posted by: TheGarbone at January 06, 2010 06:23 AM (tMP0K)
Ace: Nowadays, I find displays of true, no-nonsense talent more shocking --
Arsonist: I think you need an 8-minute vacation in Cincinnati --
Posted by: FireHorse at January 06, 2010 06:24 AM (Vl5GH)
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Posted by: Jonah's Whale at January 06, 2010 06:36 AM (ZiQz8)
Posted by: yambles at January 06, 2010 06:38 AM (rxaXW)
first of all, i found it odd how she did not stick to the melody in the choruses, and during some of the versus. she was probably having trouble hitting the notes because they were on the edge of her range, and compensated by singing the harmony parts instead. it seemed a bit awkward but at least she was not lip synching. her vocal performance was decent.
as for the content... overall i do not like her. she will use just about anything to shock, adn that is all that she is about. like madonna, and lord knows how many other stupid shocktuesses it is all about the cheap sexual shot. it gets boring after a while. the lesbian kisses, the nudity, etc., i mean, who cares? it is simply done to shock and titillate and that is it. there is NO art to it. but this performance was really good. it WAS shocking, yes, but it actually SAID something, too. it was brilliant. what a powerful statement on the vulture-like nature of fan-dom. it made me think of john lennon, and certainly princess di.
i think lady gaga will be around for a long time. she can actually sing, and she has something to say. it's the something to say part that will give her staying power.
Posted by: mistress overdone at January 06, 2010 06:49 AM (2/oBD)
Posted by: Mrs. Compton at January 06, 2010 06:56 AM (NaJ/S)
Akon: "How we gonna top this one, Lady?"
LG: "Not to worry, Akey. It's already choreographed. I did it myself, because I'm a freakin' auteur."
A: "Auteur yo' mind, yeah."
LG: Shut up. So here it is...curtain rises on a dark stage, old Negro slave song rises up from our black homos, who are dressed in the most authentic slave costumes since "Roots."
A: "Since "Woot, There It Is?"
LG: "SHUT UP! Since the TV-show "Roots," which is something any American black person would know. So, the slave-boys are doing a choreographed cotton-picking dance, very slow and kind of sad. I come out looking like Scarlett O'Hara, except that I'm wearing red lingerie instead of a long dress. I start whipping the boys, harder and harder, faster and faster, as the music changes from old slavery-dirge to techno-dirge. The blood flies off of their flayed backs and behinds like in the movie "The Passion."
A: (gulp)
LG: "I know! I'm a genius! Anyway, the story goes on for awhile, I'll fill in the blanks later, but the climax comes with the darkies lynching me, which includes rape from multiple assailants simultaneously, flogging, the burning of a big cross into my belly with a red-hot branding-iron, and then they hang me from a tree. I know I got hung before (heheh, I used to be hung), but this time it will be by the neck, with a lot of thrashing-about, and a final close-up of my face turned purple with my tongue hanging out about 6 inches."
A: "Girl, you're sick in the head. You need help, Lady."
LG: "What I need is another pair of fishnets. These are all torn apart."
And then a truck comes roaring through the office, killing both Akon and Lady Gaga, and a nude secretary who was innocently filing her teeth.
Posted by: Gary Cooper at January 06, 2010 07:07 AM (SKtHE)
Yes, "Ga-Ga" can actually sing and play the piano; before her manufactured pop-star status she was even admitted to Jiulliard, though I think she didn't attend. She's 24 years old and actually did go to college at least briefly (something that can't be said about Brittney Spears, etc).
In terms of the sex act; hard to blame her for that, since that's what sells.
Posted by: looking closely at January 06, 2010 07:09 AM (PwGfd)
...after reading about a third of the comments (and not watching the flick), I now know more about some MTV person (singer?) than I ever, ever wanted to know.
My curiousity is sated. I can safely ignore any - and every - future mention of this ...person ...as totally irrelevant to pretty much anything.
Posted by: davis,br at January 06, 2010 07:15 AM (uCShA)
I watched it, just to see what the youngun pop culture is up to these days. She can actually sing, at least on pre-recorded tape; I couldn't help but notice how the audio came in just as loud and clear when she momentarily pulled the microphone away from her face.
You could give her kudos for employing the disabled dancers in wheelchairs, if you didn't know it was an Alice Cooper shock-schtick. OK, maybe kudos for referencing health care with the guy who wore the bra face mask to ward off apparent germs.
I did appreciate her singing "cherry pie" because it made me think of Metal Mania, which does actually show some quality music (not the cherry pie video) in between the lamer videos of my own youngun days. I would definitely liken her to Marylin Manson for the shock combined with girly outfit, which again goes back to Alice Cooper. So all in all, Cooper owns the godfather crown for ground breaking. But every generation has its own version of remaking. The "important" thing is that now I know.
Posted by: St. Agnostica at January 06, 2010 07:26 AM (gbCNS)
She most definitely plays the piano, and is a wildly talented performer. Even if that type of performance isn't your cup of tea, her talent is solid. I understand why some would be turned off by over the top, bleeding, crawling, and crying out "paparazzi," but she is the first performer to surprise me since early Madonna. When the audience gasped at the blood, I could almost hear the holy trinity, Madonna, Cher, and Bette simultaneously say, "WTF!!??!!"
Posted by: HollyBerry at January 06, 2010 07:54 AM (1kwr2)
My principal reaction was thinking how difficult it must be for entertainers today to come up with anything new. As many have commented, all this stuff has been done before.
And Ms.Gaga looks pretty much like 90% of the twentysomething ladies of Italian ancestry in the NYC metropolitan area. Watch that Jersey Shore reality show if you want to see more of that kind of thing.
Posted by: Mark in Texas at January 06, 2010 07:59 AM (oEBcV)
OK, granted, she can sing. So can Natalie Horler. So I guess it's just a few tastes in style that set Lady Gaga fans apart from Cascada fans.
(And I'd love to see a 3-on-3 badminton match with Madonna, Cher and Bette against Rob Halford, Bruce Dickinson and Ronnie James Dio.)
Posted by: FireHorse at January 06, 2010 08:21 AM (Vl5GH)
Posted by: vai2112 at January 06, 2010 08:51 AM (4ucyN)
Of course, she probably makes an order of magnitude more in a year than I have ever earned in my life, so why the hell am I giving her career advice?
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 06, 2010 09:03 AM (GQhsP)
Posted by: gjz at January 06, 2010 09:13 AM (GdqSP)
Meh, as far as pop/club music goes I've had my eyes and ears forcibly assaulted by worse. At least her music is moderately catchy...and isn't what passes for rap.
And one of the advantages of being a certain age is that I no longer feel any great pressure to be "up" on the latest pop/club stuff (in more ways than one).
Posted by: unknown jane at January 06, 2010 09:25 AM (5/yRG)
Try writing a great, simple pop song. It is extremely difficult.
Posted by: gjz at January 06, 2010 09:30 AM (GdqSP)
I've spit almost as much blood as Lady Gag-a to crank out my few but never sweated quite as much as my buddy MJ did over "Ben."
Posted by: Smokey Robinson at January 06, 2010 09:36 AM (GGulh)
Check out Nikita Cordage 2009 on youtube.
Can't do the damn link thing.
I have no idea what the words are, but I know EXACTLY what she is saying.
Posted by: Eric at January 06, 2010 09:51 AM (Qc/s6)
The lady was able to play the piano by ear at 4 or something like that!
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Posted by: Terry at January 06, 2010 11:18 AM (ddL+W)
I can't make the link work with tinyurl, even though I've used it a dozen times. But here's some real music, voice and musicianship, to cleanse the palate: Bruce Dickinson w/Iron Maiden. http://tinyurl.com/29zshq
No apologies whatsoever to Britney Speares who has no voice and doesn't play an instrument.
Posted by: St. Agnostica at January 06, 2010 11:57 AM (gbCNS)
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Posted by: Melissa at January 06, 2010 05:04 PM (nrRVy)
This didn't shock me, but that's probably because I've seen her music videos before. Make you wonder if anyone would have noticed if it wasn't fake.
Sadly, undernath all that crap, she has talent.
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Posted by: mistress overdone at January 06, 2010 09:35 PM (2/oBD)
is she talented? yes. is she a great writer? hell no. her lyrics are pretty lame. she can sell a song, but lets be honest, the days of the fleetwood mac sized talent, or paul mcartney pop hooks are over. these are the days of cut and paste song writing, and pitch correction. these are the days of producer-driven projects, and female singers who screetch instead of sing. oh yeah, and as far as dance moves go... the biggest inspiration is the pole dance. yawn.
Posted by: mistress overdone at January 06, 2010 09:55 PM (2/oBD)
oh yeah, and as far as dance moves go... the biggest inspiration is the pole dance.
Mistress Overdone: If you're referring to Mylie Cyrus, I need to set the record straight. Mylie's performance incorporated a Festivus pole, not a stripper pole. Stripper poles go all the way to the ceiling; Festivus poles do not.
(It was nonetheless a pole dance, so you're correct if this is what you meant.)
Posted by: FireHorse at January 07, 2010 05:59 AM (Vl5GH)
i was indeed referring to the pole, as in the stripper pole, but you missed the point entirely. the point was that music, which used to be enjoyed as an audio art form, has now become a purely visual/performance with emphasis NOT on the content, or even the musicality of the work, but the purely packaged, contrived, and purely sexualized. people like stevel miller, christopher cross, mama cass, jim croce, and even janis joplin would never get record deals in today's music culture. and the fact is the titillation is a cheap shot. there is nothing creative about it, and after a while, after having seen your umpteen millionth lesbian kiss or simulated orgy scene you realize that in order to be realllllyyyyyyy radical today you'd have to put on a burqa or a nun's habit. the overarching use of sexual imagery, and contrived envelope pushing in music and pop culture in general has become the norm so it's no longer shocking, or edgy anyway to see a woman ( or man, think hedwig) on stage in a corset simulating a sex act. who cares? it's become boring, stupid, and it is the epitome of banal.
Posted by: mistress overdone at January 07, 2010 08:49 AM (2/oBD)
I was shocked. Shocked into listening. I wasn't paying attention to the lyrics until the wheelchair came out. I thought that was "it" and in the confusion of that moment, I started listening to the words. By the time the blood started, I understood the whole point of the song.
I was shocked into appreciating it. I also kinda agree with the message of the song.
I'm still not a fan though.
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