1

How many whores do you know that DON'T stay bought.

spit

2 Wow, so this Stupak fellow is the one to trust?

Ummm... OK.

3 Do it and humiliate the Stupak 12 further by clearly illustrating how willing they were to outright lie to their constituents.

4

The funny thing is, it looks like they didnt even need Stupak in the end. There is no way in hell most of these leftist douches would have voted for it with Obama's EO in place, which leads me to believe that Barry did the little *wink,wink* *nod, nod when he signed it, knowing damn good and well that it would either be shot down, or he'd go back on it. Stupak self immolated for absolutely nothing.

Bart, your pants are on the ground, dude.

5 If it will help derail Health Control, then go for it.

6 That would be a great last gasp, but the GOP isn't smart enough to do it.

7 I'm running out of alcohol for this debacle...

8 3 - That'd be the thing to do...

9 Sarah on Oreilly tonight at 8pm. Should be fun seeing her take a flamethrower to this.

10 8pm eastern

11 Somehow following the drastic decline is tax receipts this April (from the MSM's 'Getting better all the time economy'), followed by massive continue public protest and unrest, congress might start  to notice their chicken is fucked.

12 Absolute Truth. You can't escape it. Pastor was on a roll this morning about Daniel (= Saddam Nebuchadnezzar and his grandson, Belshazzar.) Things CAN change at the last minute. Also, bad history happens because people have resorted to secularism. We Morons like to think we're on the side of the angels. Are we? World leaders can be struck down in a second. But often, they are not. Why? To teach/learn. If you believe in an Absolute . . . ANYTHING . . . people, it's time to get down on your knees. Anger/denouncing/frustration is one thing; having Divine Guidance (and ultimately why we were Founded) is another. Our Founding Fathers were Enlightened. Are you? P.S. Pass the ammunition.

13 It would be worth it just to humiliate the Stupak pact. Y'know, those brave souls who are about as pro-life as Joseph Stalin.

14

You know what would go really good while watching Obama's address to the nation tonight ? A big burly hairy truck driver with his fist up my rectum all the way to his watch.

15 Fuck it.  I'll take any hope now.

16 Whoa the guy opposing Stupak for election Benishek is getting about 1 friend a sec. on his facebook page.

17 They're all in, the dems.  They are voting party loyalty and loyalty to the prez above all else.  the guy in the House showers did a great job....he should be rewarded.....none of them will dare to not march in lock step....

18

When & where is Brown's Ferry gonna happen?

This can get real bad real fast.

19 There seems to be two futures possible:

1. Having a pimply faced Kos kid tell me that my heart disease/ cancer/ other horrible disease is not worth treating.

2. Claiming to be an illegal immigrant and getting all treatments!

/of course, there's also the vet.... if they can treat animal heart disease/ cancer, they can treat humans... under the table of course.

20 Why stop at the Stupak language? Introduce a motion to recommit containing the original house bill including the Stupak amendment.

21 There seems to be two futures possible:

1. Having a pimply faced Kos kid tell me that my heart disease/ cancer/ other horrible disease is not worth treating.

2. Claiming to be an illegal immigrant and getting all treatments!

/of course, there's also the vet.... if they can treat animal heart disease and cancer, they can treat humans... under the table of course.

22 Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained! This station is now the ultimate power in the universe!

23 That lady is a very accomplished knob-gobbler.

24 Stupak is a vile piece of worm-ridden filth.  EOM.

25 Wow, sorry a double post, not sure how that happened!

26 As of today I am a Birther.  No  way this thug is an American.  Goes for all the damn Dems too.  I want to see all Birth Certificates.

27 Wicked! Who broke Pixy this time?

28 O/T:  "Futures Markets Selling Off As Healthcare Vote Draws Near"Someone asked about the market?

29 I totally want a blow job from Pelosi. From the number of people she convinced to get in the unemployment line come november, she must be epic.

30 I encourage this. I will be the 216th vote for sure.

31

Jayne...it's not a question of citizenship. His Mom was from Kansas. It's the FACT that his Dad was a Kenyan, not an American. He's NOT a natural born citizen.

This is a rump, rogue government. The United States of America ended when Bush's term ended.

32 27 As of today I am a Birther.  No  way this thug is an American.  Goes for all the damn Dems too.  I want to see all Birth Certificates.

Posted by: Jayne on the left coast at March 21, 2010 07:40 PM (AdFsU)

YOU'RE BANNED, BIRFER!!  G'BYE! G'BYE! G'BYE!!  VIGILANCE VIGILANCE VIGILANCE!!

33 Can anyone explain to me why Bret Beier ended his show with "fair and balanced" and then dropping his voice "and unafraid"?

34 31, It's Barney in a Pelosi mask.

35 Can anyone explain to me why Bret Beier ended his show with "fair and balanced" and then dropping his voice "and unafraid"?

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 07:44 PM (p302b)

As I've said before, the Mob is envious of this group of traitors.  Don't think Bret hasn't had real threats after his interview with Barry.

36

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 07:42

Dow futures off 57

37 35 Can anyone explain to me why Bret Beier ended his show with "fair and balanced" and then dropping his voice "and unafraid"?

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 07:44 PM (p302b)

Nobody is unafraid today. Nobody but the committed liberals willing to kill their own children for a political win.

38 So, listening to these Dems, I'm getting the impression that nobody will ever die again in this country.  _{Unborn babies excepted, of course.}

39

If it will help derail Health Control, then go for it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Please do.  I'm all for this.  I'm grasping at straws, but I'll take any avenue I can get.

I'm fedexing a package to my senator to call for a motion to recommit.

I suggest you do the same y'all.

40 Can anyone tell me how I can apply for illegal immigrant status? I need the help to get ahead in life here in America. Thanks.

41 Onlooker, I wonder if it's legally possible to renounce one's citizenship and remain here as an illegal.  Hmmmmmmmm.

42 Hey, America, how you like us now?

You get Obamacare, we're exempt.

Suck it.

43 Kill Obamacare, and kill Stupak's political career.  Support Dan Benichek for Congress!! http://tinyurl.com/yfuxr2x

44 It isn't a government takeover of healthcare, it's a Democrat takeover, a Political takeover. This is what needs to be stressed.

45

http://bit.ly/cQZizR

STUPAK GOT PAID OFF 3-19-10

I know.. I shouldnt even be shocked anymore.

46 #47  Oh my, so I guess Stupak wasn't a completely cheap whore.

47 Posted by: Timbo at March 21, 2010 07:48 PM (7GgDy)

$726,409 huh?

Well then, it seems we were wrong about him. He isn't a cheap fuck!

48 Dems pulled that crap all the time,  KOS kids were shatting themselves in a tizzy worried that the Republicans would pull the same stunt. 

49 Cue Random Race Hustler.

50

The great news is, these pukes will still have private insurance and get to see private doctors while we pick a number and stand in line at the doctors office like its the DMV.

If the stock market collapses putting millions of more people out of work because of these bastards, I hope one day soon  to look north one fine evening and see an orange glow lighting up the sky.

51 re: last chance to kill health care?
umm...ok. do it.

52 Y'all are still gonna vote for us November, aren't you?

53

STUPAK GOT PAID OFF 3-19-10

I know.. I shouldnt even be shocked anymore.

Posted by: Timbo at March 21, 2010 07:48 PM (7GgDy)

Not really.  He was always going to vote this way. He's a liar, I believe.  Check out gatewaypundit for the youtube of him last year.

54 @49 Cheap skank, should saved saved it for some real money

55 726,409 huh? Well then, it seems we were wrong about him. He isn't a cheap fuck! Posted by: sharrukin That has to less that $1 per baby. Nice one, asslick.

56 Oh my, so I guess Stupak wasn't a completely cheap whore.

That's not even rounding error on the porkulus.

57 A Motion to Recommit, if it passed would kill the bill. It would force another vote on the floor to pass it again with the added language and Nancy might not bring it to the floor. Even if it did come back, it would have to go to the Senate with the new language and die there.

It's a nice strategy, but when have the Dems played by the rules on this?

58 $726,409 huh?

Well then, it seems we were wrong about him. He isn't a cheap fuck!

Posted by: sharrukin at March 21, 2010 07:51 PM (593B

Are you kidding? He's the cheapest fuck I've ever seen. I wouldn't have given all those representatives in the Louisiana Legislature back in the '80s so much as handjobs for that kind of pocket change.

59

http://bit.ly/cQZizR

STUPAK GOT PAID OFF 3-19-10

I know.. I shouldnt even be shocked anymore.

Posted by: Timbo at March 21, 2010 07:48 PM (7GgDy)

I hope when his constituents find out about that, he has to use one of those airports to get the hell out of Dodge.

60 "37 Can anyone explain to me why Bret Beier ended his show with "fair and balanced" and then dropping his voice "and unafraid"?

Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 07:44 PM (p302b)

As I've said before, the Mob is envious of this group of traitors.  Don't think Bret hasn't had real threats after his interview with Barry.

Posted by: Editor at March 21, 2010 07:45 PM (YX6i/)"

Oh God, I didn't even think of that.  That is just horrible.  What's the matter with people, have they gone stark raving mad?

61

Dow futures off 57

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 21, 2010 07:46 PM (UQLAD)

Don't look to the Dow to repudiate this.  It's baked into the cake, as it were.  The markets have accounted for this.  More telling will be unemployment numbers.  I think by April 2, we'll be back up at 10.0%

62 Really, do the Rs have anything to lose by that?

63 #58  That's not even rounding error on the porkulus.

You're right, you dirt-stealing radish.  He's the type of whore that isn't "free", but really only needs a nickel to do the deed.

64 It's a nice strategy, but when have the Dems played by the rules on this?

More video for the "Dems don't follow rules" ads the RNC isn't making next fall.

65 That has to less that $1 per baby.

Nice one, asslick.

Posted by: eman at March 21, 2010 07:53 PM (3fzoU)

Guys like him never were, and never will be pro-life. It is just a sham to get votes in more conservative districts.

66 @64 Nope. Kinda like losing the china when the Titanic went down. At that point, who cares?

67 Yep, America's not the Siberian gulag. Our bodies are just batteries for the power of the Pharaoh. We've all mutated into pitiable sexless drones in the Marxist hive. We've gone down for the third time in the collectivist cesspool. All aboard the trains! Actually they've moved beyond that technologically, now. The gas-chamber and the ovens are right there on the train. Progress!

68 BTW, let me just cast my vote for "Health Control".  It says it all.

69 I saw a Rep named Lemieux say they would ask for a point of order due to the fact that the fix involves Social Security, which is illegal, and then because of Scott Brown, the Dems would not have the 60 votes to overrule it.

70 Can anyone explain to me why Bret Beier ended his show with "fair and balanced" and then dropping his voice "and unafraid"?
Posted by: curious at March 21, 2010 07:44 PM (p302b)

He is one of the few who has gazed into the eyes of the beast and has seen the glint of revenge, totalitarian glee and hatred for all who dare oppose him therein.

Interviews have consequences. Especially when they expose the mendacity of the country's first Anti-American president.

Papa Doc Obama will deal with Brett. He holds all the cards now.

71 Feel bad for folks just starting their residencies. Maybe Easy Bake will pay your med school bills.

72

re: Stupak:

said on another thread:

With Palm Sunday next week, Judas is a very fitting analogy.

73 @69 Who you callin sexless? I feel like I've been getting fucked all day

74 O/T Is anyone else's tv provider's program guide showing "Witness to Jonestown" on MSNBC while they're covering this? I took a pic I found it so tragically funny

75 Maybe Easy Bake will pay your med school bills. Barry will let you take forever to pay them back, if at all, provided you work for gubmint. Perhaps in the VA, or on a death panel,

76 So did it pass or what?

77 15-20 years from now....if the MSM still exists, they'll still be waxing poetic about barack obama as a heroic figure even in his one term. but i suspect he'll be one of the most despised presidents.

bill clinton had a certain likability, george W bush's image is already being soothed over (partly because of obama's ineptitude); nobody thinks much about carter except for the MSM. but obama has bought himself a world of intense anger, and this is one grudge that will never die.

78 We have met the Chicken, and he is us.

79 Seriously, I'm not looking forward to that concentration camp food. Or having lampshades made from my skin.

80 If the dems are demogougering the republicansfor not being on the "people's side" what does say for the 30 some dems who joined the republicans?

81 73 Feel bad for folks just starting their residencies. Maybe Easy Bake will pay your med school bills.Posted by: eman at March 21, 2010 07:58 PM (3fzoU)

-ehhhh...that would be me. thanks.

president obama,  i'd be glad to take your tonsils out or amputate your foot.

and in other news: fuck you obama.

82 Palin and Bachmann on O'reilly tonight.

83 O.K. let's vow as a group to skip the grieving stage and go right to the anger stage. We need a genius plan that we can all get behind. Start thinking outside of the box.

84 If the dems are demogougering the republicansfor not being on the "people's side" what does say for the 30 some dems who joined the republicans?

Do they mean 'the people' that overwhelmingly hated this bill and wanted them to start over?

85 80 We have met the Chicken, and he is us.

Posted by: eman at March 21, 2010 08:01 PM (3fzoU)

golf-clap

86 83, Sorry, dude or dudette. Work for the Libyans. They have a cure for cancer.

87 Anyone here actually meet with their congress critter during the past year?

88 no moar new posts!

89

The House will get screwed by the Senate and Obama.

And they deserve every epithet that will be coming their way from their constituents when they don't get all of the goodies that they were promised in the reconciliation bill that will NEVER be taken up by the Senate.

Any bets being taken on how many political appointments will be gone with the wind after BamBam is out of office and no longer has any influence?  It's going to be priceless to see their faces as each of them realizes that they have been played for fools.

I hope that they understand that their 30 pieces of silver were always only made out of worthless tin....

90

Local news from WTVR:



VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Congressman Glenn Nye has come out against health care legislation.

The Virginia Beach Democrat says the bill has strong points but on the whole has serious problems. On Saturday, Nye said he would not vote for the measure.

Nye says the bill would hurt military families and would cut $16 billion from funding for children's hospitals.

Congress was expected to vote on the measure Sunday.

91
EVERY House Democrat in Colorado voted for it.

Moderate democrats?  MY ass.

92 Maybe Easy Bake will pay your med school bills.

That's in the bill.  Well, for the students who checked the right "race and ethnicity" boxes.

93 Miss me yet?

94 Work for the Libyans. They have a cure for cancer.

That just made me choke on my store brand diet soda! Thanks.

95

 

I am here to receive my well deserved lemonades!!

 

96 (stands up in a smoldering field of battle, facing Roman legions) I am Chicken!

97 Over at RedState, they are directing everyone to a site where you can order some fake silver coins to be sent to Mr. Stupak's Congressional office - $4.00 for a package of 100....

98 Congressman Glenn Nye has come out against health care legislation.

Sorry, Glenn.  You're a "stupaker" too.  You voted for Pelosi as speaker.  You own this as if you voted yes.

99 We have met the Chicken, and he is us.

OK, that was funny.

100 They should try it. It won't work, but it will expose the hypocrisy & fraud. Great job on our side by keeping up the pressure.

101
wow 2700 pages

our health 'code' is gonna be a lot like our tax 'code'

In another 5 years it will be expanded to 27000 pages.

102 The House will get screwed by the Senate and Obama.

The House doesn't care. This is the leftist holy grail. Not one elected Democrat cares how they get there or is sweating the details.

103

I think I'll play some Half-Life2 tonight. I used to think it was sc-fi, but now it looks like a window to our future. At least they have a resistance.

Gordon Freeman lives!

104 Teresa, I'm thinking little pieces of tinfoil will do just as well.  Possibly used tinfoil -- is Christoph still here, maybe he has some old hats he'd like to recycle?

105 Over at RedState, they are directing everyone to a site where you can order some fake silver coins to be sent to Mr. Stupak's Congressional office - $4.00 for a package of 100....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 21, 2010 08:08 PM (ag+/0)

Geat!  So we can just send him 30 for $1.20?

106 Send the coins to Stupak's confederates too.  Don't forget them.  If it were just Stupak, Nancy would not have the votes.

107 Why don't the Republicans make the following motions:

 1. Reinstitute Stupak's abortion language
 2. Remove Cornhusker Kickback
 3. Remove Louisiana Purchase
 4. Remove Florida's special deal.

Wouldn't it be nice to force the DemoRats to vote on this?

108 Is anybody else drunk yet?

109 It doesn't matter what the Republicans do . . . the Democrats will conjure up a new rule to shoot them down. This game is fixed and can't be won.

110 100 Over at RedState, they are directing everyone to a site where you can order some fake silver coins to be sent to Mr. Stupak's Congressional office - $4.00 for a package of 100....

Just in time for the Easter season.  Enjoy, Stupak!

111

I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, DemocRATick Congressman.
- Mark Twain

FIFH

112 Hey Drew,

Want to know why you lost this battle? It's because you frame it as "Last Chance To Kill Health Care."

Nobody wants to kill health care, and nobody ever did.

It's pretty sad when the guys supposedly on our side cannot even get this basic fact straight.

Barack Obama's "Health Reform" is nothing more than forcing people to buy insurance and as a side bonus the largest tax increase in history.

And you headline that "Last Chance To Cut Health Care"

Dumbass.

113   76 O/T
Is anyone else's tv provider's program guide showing "Witness to Jonestown" on MSNBC while they're covering this?
I took a pic I found it so tragically funny     yep its showing here in Fort Worth to..go figure   ;(

114
>>>Palin and Bachmann on O'reilly tonight.

Yes!

115 http://bit.ly/aRU7j2

SUCK IT UP MOFO'S.  SUCK IT UP.

116 Is anybody else drunk yet?

Posted by: jewells at March 21, 2010 08:11 PM (lv7H+)

Does being drunk all week count?

117

113 -

yep.  i figure it is one of the last times before they start blood testing and restricting access to liver transplants...

118 What happened with Pascrell's comments ? we just about had a fist fight.....

119 Look, it's heartbreaking to admit it, but this particular battle of the war is over. Come November we must ready the armada of freedom for a Great Crusade, "for which we have strived these many months." Upon it will rest the hopes of freedom loving men everywhere, that we roll back the tide of socialism and statism that threaten this great nation with irreversible decline. We will win. Tonight's vote is but the seal of the Democrat's fate. Never have so many been so energized to beat back one political faction as we are today. Beware, Liberals - BEWARE.

120 bill clinton had a certain likability, george W bush's image is already being soothed over (partly because of obama's ineptitude); nobody thinks much about carter except for the MSM. but obama has bought himself a world of intense anger, and this is one grudge that will never die.

Dubya always had likability, even when he left w/ a 34% approval, his favorables were at 53%

Clinton actually wasn't liked, he left w/ favorables in the 30s, but his moderation kept his approvals at his job high

Carter left w/ bad approvals and favorables, and continues to be a MSM darling w/ a legacy as one of our worst Presidents, Obama will join him soon his approvals are at 45% and his favorables are nearly below 50% already

121

his mother was a hooker at his Pa's fav watering hole
Posted by: tHeory slut at March 21, 2010 08:08 PM (eA3tl)

wow

122 Nye says the bill would hurt military families and would cut $16 billion from funding for children's hospitals.


Well if everything goes according to their plan there won't be much of a military left anyways.So it all works out in the end.

123 @118 **jealous that you get to live in tx**

124 The House doesn't care. This is the leftist holy grail. Not one elected Democrat cares how they get there or is sweating the details.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 21, 2010 08:08 PM (6UQg2)

What these fools don't realize is that everything Papa Doc Obama is doing brings him closer to the day when he won't need them. He'll toss them like a used Kleenex when he has the absolute power they are trying so hard to give him.

Marinus van der Lubbe is waiting in the wings....

125 someguy

You don't seem to like this place very much.

I'm sure there's a door around here somewhere, feel free to go through it and not look back.

126

O/T, but a large blip came across my gaydar  and my suspicions were confirmed when I walked into the other room and Top Gun was on the t.v.

127 What pisses me off is that my wife has been told to expect a call from her boss terminating her position on the day that reconciliation passes the Senate.  Not due to health care, but because of the student loan changes that got railroaded through and never got a real public debate.  Score another one for the big guy by slipping another government takeover under the radar on the same day.  What's kind of ironic is that our health insurance is through her employment.  When this big health care bill passes, I'm losing mine.

128 Screw Thomas Friedman and his sockpuppet...

129
Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman are inscrutable. The proof is irrefutable.
They are so completely kissable. Our lives are indivisible. they are a crazy I'd endorse; they're a powerful force. You're obliged to conform when there's no other course.

Sarah Palin and Michelle  used to look good to me, but now I find them simply irrestistable.

130 CONTRIBUTIONS NOW POURING IN FOR STUPAK'S OPPONENT

131 I wonder what Obama's version of Elba will be?

132
Nye says the bill would hurt military families and would cut $16 billion from funding for children's hospitals.

For democrats, that's a feature, not a bug.

133 Does anyone really think the GOP will have the guts to do this?

They never make the bold move, but this would make the Dems take a really uncomfortable stand, either way.

134 Now is the time for Kratos. Bring the whole damn corrupt system down. Let chaos rule.

135 106

I think I'll play some Half-Life2 tonight. I used to think it was sc-fi, but now it looks like a window to our future. At least they have a resistance.

Gordon Freeman lives!

 

I,m gonna play some Killing Floor and pretend all the Zombies are Democrats..and use only the Big guns that make a real mess

136 139 Now is the time for Kratos.

Bring the whole damn corrupt system down. Let chaos rule.

Chaos isn't the ideal system, mind you, but it's got to be better than this planned corruption thing...

137 From now on any Health problem is BHO's fault!!

138 Gird your fucking loins. Once this has passed it will be dissected by knowledgeable folks instead of these short bus occupants and reading/math challenged politicians.

We already have a debt tsunami and baby this is the coup de gras. It's over. Fini. Adios.

Cue the fat bitch. In B minor.

139 138 Does anyone really think the GOP will have the guts to do this?

Yes.  Why not, if they can?

140 the bright side to all this is that it's the final death nail for Democrats in Nov., Obama's approvals will prob. go down, and Obama prob. will be setting the stage to lose in 2012

the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)?

141 Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed

142 #145  the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)?

One would think they could only commit suicide once, but who knows?

143 I'm just waiting for Kratos to clear the field a bit.

144 Yay! I'm a full-time artist, now!

145 Is anybody else drunk yet?

Waiting for hubby to get home. But I was told to have the vodka chilled and ready for his arrival.

I'm thinking we should get shitripped and spend the rest of the night in bed.

146

IN PRAISE OF OUTLAWS

by Ernest Partisan

I choose to be an outlaw. There was once a time when a majority of American Citizens understood this and approved. True, there were probably numerically more Tories residing in America at the time, but by definition one who chooses to be the subject of a ruler is not a Citizen, and of no consequence to anyone honorable. America was a nobility-free republic - a revolutionary creation of outlaws. A land of honorable outlaws who agreed upon a minimal set of laws that even an outlaw could abide and grudgingly lend a tiny fraction of their natural sovereignty and reclaimed liberty to the obvious mutual benefit of all.

Not all criminals are outlaws, and not all outlaws are criminals. An outlaw lives by a moral code, but blithely ignores absurd laws designed to suppress dissent and control private personal behavior. A criminal lives by no code, external or internal and is an animal to be mistrusted or destroyed. A criminal ignores whatever is inconvenient at the moment while an outlaw often chooses a personally inconvenient and sometimes dangerous course in the name of principle and honor.

A criminal has absolute freedom, while an outlaw has personal liberty and spiritual freedom. A criminal will steal food from a working man, while an outlaw will refuse to pay child support to a welfare agency. A criminal will lobby into existence a law putting the cash of ten million laborers into his pocket, while an outlaw will refuse to file a tax return. A criminal will carry a gun to intimidate victims, while an outlaw will carry his gun as a symbol of his liberty and to defend against all aggressors.

Our Bill of Rights is a relic of our outlaw past. It is a set of codes written by free Citizens who understood the necessity of controlling the monster they knew they were creating. They knew that there can be no words so offensive that they dare not be spoken or published. They knew that if anyone had that power to suppress, all had it and no one would dare speak freely, just as it had been in the ugly old world order they had fled. They understood the necessity of faith as well as the irreconcilability of conflicting dogma. They had seen firsthand the use of official religions to control outlaws, and didn't much care for what they saw. So they penned the First Amendment to the Constitution.

They understood that the right to be armed, and to be a threat to the ruler simply by being, was an absolute. They codified this very clearly in a sentence ending "shall NOT be infringed" which contains not a single allow or permit. They understood that any compromise on this principle of freedom deeded the power of life and death over them to some unaccountable other. The right to be armed guarantees not bravery, nor victory, nor nobility, nor honesty nor honor, nor even safety, but merely the right to honest respect and a fair fight. And so the Second Amendment came to be written down.

They had seen the tyranny and felt the violation of having the government put soldiers and officers into their homes to keep dissent minimized and politically correct. An outlaw knows this is no longer necessary, of course, since electronic monitoring can work more effectively and less personably in all cases. But they didn't have electronic magic at the time, so the founding outlaws only prohibited the quartering of troops in private homes in peacetime. This was the genesis of the Third Amendment.

Many of the founding outlaws had felt the humiliation of being routinely searched in hopes of finding something illegal to be used against them or to turn them against their fellow outlaws. They knew of such outrageous offenses as random roadblocks, home invasion searches, searches through bank accounts and payrolls, and the ultimate humiliation of personal body searches. They knew how much could and would be made illegal and used to wrongly label them criminal, when the Tories eventually insinuated themselves into the newly created governments. They knew that actual criminals would use a Citizen's cloak of privacy to conceal misdeeds, and that this privacy must be protected from casual intrusions and mandatory disclosures. For all of this, the Fourth Amendment was drafted.

The founding outlaws also knew well the coercive and dishonest tactics and abusive methods of executives and prosecutors, and so the Fifth Amendment was written to provide a tool to use against the excesses of the law. Remember, these were our founding outlaws! In the same vein, they knew the Tories would try to render these weapons ineffective in different kinds of legal maneuverings, so they enshrined some more protections, especially the right to trial by jury in the Sixth Amendment. And to avoid end runs around these protections by incorrectly labeling a dispute between law and outlaw as a contractual dispute, they enshrined the same jury trial provision in the Seventh Amendment. The founding outlaws finished up their magnum opus by providing a way for an outlaw to get out of jail in the eight amendment, and specifically prohibiting the creation of most of the laws of which Tories are so fond in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.

So what is the point of this little history lesson? I'm one of the proud breed of modern outlaws. For a while, I thought we might be an endangered species. Now, however, thanks to the excesses and impatience of the Clinton Regime, our population has made a tremendous comeback, with our numbers increasing tenfold in a single generation.

Do you remember the first point about how not all criminals are outlaws and how not all outlaws are criminals? The Tories in their twentieth century guises have been allowed to prey increasingly on the individual outlaw in the name of fighting crime. Every one of the protections in the Bill of Rights and the original Federal Constitution have been violated repeatedly in spirit and in letter. The Bill of Rights is simply the agreed upon part of the outlaw's code. And the government has itself become not an outlaw, but a criminal, by repeatedly proving that it follows no code at all.

And so, since the outlaw lives by a code, there are government laws he must break and not be silent about, while a criminal lives by no code and can always beat the law. The result is lots of criminals, lots of Tories, and a few angry outlaws. This same situation prevailed at the beginning of this country - Criminal rulers, Tories obeying, and outlaws standing with manly firmness at Lexington and Concord and Bunker Hill. And since the code or covenant has been broken, the response is and will be to avenge the wrongs, since avenging the wrongs is one of the most sacred items in the outlaw's code.

147 Does anyone really think the GOP will have the guts to do this?

They were waving Don't Tread On Me flags out of the Capitol windows today so they seem to be feeling confident that they have public on their side. Let's hope that spirit lasts.

148 Man, I've been in a meeting and haven't been thinking about this for a few hours.

Damn, it feels felt good.  Everyone should take a nice walk or something.  Or drink themselves into oblivion...

149 Cantor said they wouldn't stop fighting until they had nothing left. He, Boehner, Ryan, & Bachmann have done most of the heavy lifting. Can we see a few more Rs throw out some objections, please?

150 Obama will be long gone making 100K a speech when the fiscal time bomb of this BLOWS.

151 the bright side to all this is that it's the final death nail for Democrats in Nov., Obama's approvals will prob. go down, and Obama prob. will be setting the stage to lose in 2012 the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)? They would still have to get a bill out of the Senate. And without 60 votes now, they may not be able to. At least after this crap, not ONE Republican should ever vote with them again. Of course that lady lindsey G........

152 the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)?

Graham is the only R on board and he's said emphatically that it's dead if health care passes.

I believe him.  Illegal immigrants will be a whole lot less popular with this thing looming.

153 Obama's approval numbers will get a small bounce. Those who were upset that HCR hadn't happened yet will be back in love with him now.

154
You guys don't get it.

The Republicans HAVE to be the Anti-Obama/Anti-Democrat party from now on, and they know it.

If they aren't, we have no use for them. The Republicans, from this day forward have two paths to choose. One path is the status quo and leads to extinction. The other path is the road back to our core values and victory.

155 Well, 300 is on.

156 Does anyone really think the GOP will have the guts to do this

The Hill is reporting that the Dems are very nervous about it, so, yeah, why not.

157
the bright side to all this is that it's the final death nail for Democrats in Nov., Obama's approvals will prob. go down, and Obama prob. will be setting the stage to lose in 2012

the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)?

Posted by: YRM at March 21, 2010 08:21 PM (rbtaB)

Oh, thats coming next and it will pass because several republicans will vote for it too like Graham, McCain and the two scrunts from Maine. With the biggest news of the day being the Obamacare debacle passing , the AP made sure to run a story of an immigration reform protest on the capitol where they said thousands attended.

Which means about 100 people, all of them illegal showed up.

158 161 Well, 300 is on.

THIS...IS....SPARTA!!!

159

128 @118
**jealous that you get to live in tx**

 

still a little room...but pack ur ass up and get here..we will be raising the drawbridge soon..and releasing the "Dogs of War"

160 Posted by: overlooked at March 21, 2010 08:17 PM (H5TFK)

Does your wife work in the student loan industry?

I admit, as a student who currently has student loans (and will have to keep getting them in order to continue as a student until I graduate in late 2011), I know far less than I should about this recent development - I've been so focused on the insurance aspect that I've paid little attention to the other, knowing I'd object to it anyway on sheer principle.  But I've no idea how it'll affect me right now.

161 Posted by: pam at March 21, 2010 08:24 PM (h8R9p)

That is superb!

162 163 They were probably day laborers waiting to get picked up.

163

 it's time to get down on your knees.

You're right.  I did.

164 @ 166

Hey, I'm graduating around then.  Just curious, what are you studying?

165 Oh, gack, it's Wasserman Schultz.  *spits*

166 "Does anyone really think the GOP will have the guts to do this?

Yes.  Why not, if they can?"

They've had the opportunity to force the Dems to make really tough votes before and didn't.  The most important thing is that this motion features just the Stupak Amendment, no other GOP issues.

167 Hey, I'm graduating around then.  Just curious, what are you studying?

Posted by: Fortunate Son at March 21, 2010 08:29 PM (QDWrg)

Business Forensics - think finance with a focus on fraud detection/prevention.  You?

168

145 the bright side to all this is that it's the final death nail for Democrats in Nov., Obama's approvals will prob. go down, and Obama prob. will be setting the stage to lose in 2012

I certainly hope so, but again, voters have notoriously short memories.  I have little to no confidence in the average voter right now.

169 The Hill is reporting that the Dems are very nervous about it

If they're so fucking "nervous" why are they doing it in the first place?!?

/rhetorical. 

170
Doods, we have 18% unemployment and climbing.

Just talkng about Amnesty is politically insane. But, hey, let the Democrats bring it up. It might mean we can take back the Senate, too.

If we win really really big in Novemember, we can haz impeachment! Yes, we can.

The Republicans DO indeed have the balls to impeach -- they did it just 12 years ago.

171 At my signal, unleash hell.

172 The political process is now confirmed to be broken.

173 Maybe this will perk the morons' spirits.

174 the bad side to all this is if they'd pass one unpopular bill, what's to stop them from passing anymore unpopular bills (amnesty)?

Posted by: YRM at March 21, 2010 08:21 PM (rbtaB)

That's the big potential problem.  One usually effective control on preventing irrational and destructive behavior by politicians has always been their fear of losing their next election if they went against the wishes of their constituents.  That is obviously not true with a large number of the Democrats currently in Congress, with enough of them ready to sacrifice their political career for passing far Left legistlation.  It's akin to trying to dissuade an Islamic terrorist from committing a suicidal act of terrorism when the terrorist believes that dying while committing the act will result in him receiving 72 virgins and an eternity in utopia.

175 177 At my signal, unleash hell.

Do you like movies about Gladiators?

/I do, I do!

176 "From time to time, the corpses of Democrats must be watered with the alcohol soaked rage-piss of patriots."

p. 2, Empire of Jeff:  The Jeffening, available in hardcover Oct. 2010

177 The System Works!

178

Posted by: davidt at March 21, 2010 08:25 PM (4JjTO)

maybe, but then they go down again, after all some independents I knoa are talking about passing healthcare would be the last straw for them w/ Obama, of course the fact that he wants to pass it in the first place  isn't good enough for them to turn on them, and yet they're "independents" like my bro who says the bill isn't that bad and that the stimulus will help Obama get re-elected while calling conservatives names and refuting to look at the wasteful spending that will hurt the economy and I believe lose Obama the election

179
I'm feeling optimistic, actually. This might be the day the sleeping giant has awoken.

The Republicans are showing some balls. I thought the party was dead and we'd be running 3rd party candidates in 2012.

But the Republicans are starting to come around. I think the Democrats pushed them around a little too much this time and they're sick of it.

180
Do you like movies about Gladiators?

/I do, I do!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 21, 2010 08:33 PM (otlXg)

How YOU doin' ?

181 "You don't seem to like this place very much."

Drew,

I like this place fine. I just wish there were better bloggers here who had the ability to put their thinking caps on before they post.

Nobody wants to cut health care. Do heartless Republicans want to cut health care? Is that your message? Because that's the message you're sending out.

When you frame it that way, you allow the other side to set the terms of the debate.

And that's stupid.

Dumbass.

Get your head out of your ass and maybe next time we'll have a better shot at winning the debate.

182 I'm feeling optimistic, actually.

Not me, man.

183

"think about how truly helpless you are before your employer, you need that paycheck to live, they have the power to end it at a moments notice, you are reduced to their whims and desires, but at least your boss know's you which brings at least some semblence of mercy, they rely on your labor for their livelihood, they have a stake in you, they need you.

now think about a boss who has never even meet you, never spoken to you and who in no way relies on your labor for their livelihood, when you rely on the government for that which you need to survive that government IS your master, what they say is final, there is no recourse, there is no other "boss" to work for, you can't just quit and find another job.

how cruel might this "boss" be?

184   146 Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed     I love that fukin movie..Pump up the Volume  wasn,t it?

185 So if the senate doesn't pass any of the reconcilation bill, does the house fund this monster? That's what happened in Austrailia, they didn't fund their stupid bill and then fought about it for 7 years.

186 Remember Me? Maybe I can help.

187 Business Forensics - think finance with a focus on fraud detection/prevention.  You?

That's neat.  Me, heh, economics.  Which makes this Administration's bumbling even more entertaining!

Plus, it's always fun to have to buy textbooks by Krugman.

188
that's all we need...a french fuckin' chicken...

189 We need Zombie Adams right about now.

190 to continue 182's meme:

"From time to time, the heads of ACORN need a good cracking."

p. 3, Guy Fawkes: the Fawkening, available everywhere Nov. 2010

191 Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:35 PM (cde+b)

Never saw the movie. What was it about?

I like the song which was covered by Concrete Blonde and Leonard Cohen.

192

poisonous and vile is the drug of dependency, disguised as "charity" it is a narcotic meant to enslave you.

"the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

193 Damn.  Something ate my post. 

194 136 I wonder what Obama's version of Elba will be?

Posted by: AmishDude at March 21, 2010 08:18 PM (Vo2Ef)

An interesting question, because everyone should be honest with themselves: Can you see Obama retiring to Somewhere, USA, getting a presidential library built, going on the lecture circuit, etc., like any other, normal ex-president?

Can you really?

195 "independents" like my bro who says the bill isn't that bad and that the stimulus will help Obama get re-elected while calling conservatives names and refuting to look at the wasteful spending that will hurt the economy and I believe lose Obama the election

Ask him why ObamaCare also takes gives control of all student loans to the government.

196 pg 4.:  The Chicken;  Well shit.  Available immediately on Capitol Hill.

197

Do heartless Republicans want to cut health care?

Do heartless democrats want to destroy the economy, national defence, small business, retirement, seniors, infants, pharma, medical innovation, hospitals, doctors?

Sure looks like it.

198 Nice that somebody finally pointed out that the only thing bipartisan about this crap is the opposition to it.

199 Upset I am... I have not commented for four days as I saw the tidal wave of Obamaism winning.  The only solace I can thing of in my mind is that this is the high water mark of the Democratic Party.  They think that they have won a great victory. If somehow, we cannot defeat this monster madness of Obama in the courts, then the USA is indeed dead.

200

I certainly hope so, but again, voters have notoriously short memories.  I have little to no confidence in the average voter right now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 21, 2010 08:30 PM (zgZzy)

Yeah, but how often have we had both the right and a substantial faction of the left up in arms about this bill (albeit for different reasons - still, rage is rage)?  I don't think the short-term memory is going to apply in this case like it has in others.

201
in Russia

Chicken fuck you

202 Ouch. There are consequences. http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100321/pl_usnw/DC74083_1

203 Final Rasmussen Poll

204

I guess "Time" will decide that the political system isn't broken anymore, since we just went communist and are now totally destitute and bankrupt.

 

205 Get your head out of your ass and maybe next time we'll have a better shot at winning the debate.

Posted by: someguy at March 21, 2010 08:35 PM (VRJIW)

Do you seriously think there was debate on this? Why do you think a sizeable chunk of the population is pissed about this? because there was NO debate. This was rammed down our throats against everything we said, and did.

206 The Republicans DO indeed have the balls to impeach -- they did it just 12 years ago.

The Rs fall to pieces when "racist" is used against them. No way they're going to impeach a black president.

207 I don't think the short-term memory is going to apply in this case like it has in others.

Anyone who still gets a paycheck will get a regular reminder. 

208 Are we killing it yet" Is Paris Burning?

209 200 Damn.  Something ate my post.

*burps*  Sorry.

210

Yeah, but how often have we had both the right and a substantial faction of the left up in arms about this bill (albeit for different reasons - still, rage is rage)?  I don't think the short-term memory is going to apply in this case like it has in others.

I think, in the end, Democrats still follow their mastersand they will vote down Party lines.  But I'm a terrible pessimist.

211

Yeah, but how often have we had both the right and a substantial faction of the left up in arms about this bill (albeit for different reasons - still, rage is rage)?  I don't think the short-term memory is going to apply in this case like it has in others.

I think, in the end, Democrats still follow their masters and they will vote down Party lines.  But I'm a terrible pessimist.

212 O/T, but I find it amusing on a day when there is damn little to be amused about:

The comments on Michelle Malkin's blog are far more violent -- including a revival of birferism -- than anything her former vassals, Allahpundit and "Captain" Ed Morrissey are willing to tolerate today.

Hot Air: on it's way to joining Compact Verdant Sports Devices in the dustbin of interwebz history.

213 214, Just impeach the other half.

214 Final Rasmussen Poll

Posted by: newser at March 21, 2010 08:40 PM (X2eW0)

41% of people actually think this is a good idea?

215

An interesting question, because everyone should be honest with themselves: Can you see Obama retiring to Somewhere, USA, getting a presidential library built, going on the lecture circuit, etc., like any other, normal ex-president?

Can you really?

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 21, 2010 08:39 PM (Yj/AQ)

Maybe the cocksucker can move to his native Pock-E-Ston and hire on as a Mueszzin. He likes to drone on and on...

216 Just impeach the other half.

Ha!

217 Get your head out of your ass and maybe next time we'll have a better shot at winning the debate.
Posted by: someguy at March 21, 2010 08:35 PM (VRJIW)

LOL even the democrats know they lost the debate - what the hell do you think all of their talk about how the public will like it once it's implemented?  That they have to pass it for us to know what's in it? 

That rather implies that they know the public doesn't like it right now.

218 What is the likelihood that this thing is still in the Senate by tax day?

219 Not to nitpick, I really hate the headline.

This legislation is NOT "health care."

Just because the Democrats use this lie doesn't mean we have to go along with it.

I REALLY hate these people.

And I am losing patience in a big way with the useful idiots who vote for them, uncritically accept their propaganda, and think it is just A-OK for the government to tell us how to run our lives.

220 I've paid little attention to the other, knowing I'd object to it anyway on sheer principle.  But I've no idea how it'll affect me right now.

Shouldn't affect you too much, depending on your major.

Business Forensics - think finance with a focus on fraud detection/prevention, you say?

Hmmm...

I think that if switch your major to any one of the fine Victim's Studies programs offered by your school, we could probably work something out.

221 165 

still a little room...but pack ur ass up and get here..we will be raising the drawbridge soon..and releasing the "Dogs of War"

Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:27 PM (cde+b)

Amnesty's next. If that gets through, Texas will be another California overnight.

222   198 Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:35 PM (cde+b)

Never saw the movie. What was it about?

I like the song which was covered by Concrete Blonde and Leonard Cohen.
about a kid with a Pirate radio station...who used it to buck the system..at a corrupt High School...and it is ironic to me ..because it fits here and now

223

Psst...

 

Stupak's a fucker.

Pass it on...

224 I REALLY hate these people. And I am losing patience in a big way with the useful idiots who vote for them, uncritically accept their propaganda, and think it is just A-OK for the government to tell us how to run our lives. Posted by: qrstuv at March 21, 2010 08:45 PM (1fE6t) I've hated them for years. Welcome to the party.

225

Sooooo glad I have bottles (yes, plural) of wine on hand this evening.

226

I think, in the end, Democrats still follow their masters and they will vote down Party lines.  But I'm a terrible pessimist.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 21, 2010 08:43 PM (zgZzy)

That's alright - on all days to be a pessimist, today ain't a bad one to pick.

I still think that, from what I've been seeing on lefty blogs over the past several weeks, there are some seriously crushed hearts over there and the left knows how to hold a grudge like nobody's business.  For all their talk about how the tea party will crush the right's chances by splitting the votes, they're well on their way to doing the same to their democrats that aren't full-on Marxism loving dictator wannabes.  There's already a lot of buzz on their side about going after those who folded the fastest on the public option.

227 Sooooo glad I have bottles (yes, plural) of wine on hand this evening. Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 21, 2010 08:47 PM (qRU1N) Does that mean you'll be easy tonight?

228 What is the likelihood that this thing is still in the Senate by tax day?

About zero. If the senate bill passes the house tonight, this will go away by next week.  Accolades on the"historic" legislation for a couple of days, then it's law.  The Senate ain't touching the reconciliation bill.

229

I have a question.

Is there any way in hell that Joe Biden could do worse?

230 hmmm.. too bad, the Tax Day protests could have had one last chance to have a voice on this legislation.

231 I like the song which was covered by Concrete Blonde and Leonard Cohen.
about a kid with a Pirate radio station...who used it to buck the system..at a corrupt High School...and it is ironic to me ..because it fits here and now

Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:46 PM (cde+b)

Everybody knows?  http://bit.ly/zSsvu

232 Posted by: The Chicken at March 21, 2010 08:39 PM (UQLAD)

Ich bin ein Chicken.

233

223

Imagine if he gets a translator? Qadaffi's translator that walked off the job would kiss his boots if his other option was to translate O's "me me me" speeches.

234

Does that mean you'll be easy tonight?

Always, Big Boy!

235 Do heartless Republicans want to cut health care?

Heartless Democrats want Health Control.

They want to replace the best medical care system in the world with the Health DMV.

They want that DMV drone to decide if you live or die.

236

Does that mean you'll be easy tonight?

No. I'm rationing the condoms. I hear those are considered a sin tax under CommieCare.

237

237

When Biden talks to America's relatives and says, "God rest America's soul," he won't be wrong - his boss just killed it.

238 Heh.

Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund President Marjorie Dannenfelser said the group was revoking its “Defender of Life” award to Stupak, which was to be awarded at its Wednesday night gala.

“We were planning to honor Congressman Stupak for his efforts to keep abortion-funding out of health care reform. We will no longer be doing so,” Dannenfelser said. “Let me be clear: any representative, including Rep. Stupak, who votes for this health care bill can no longer call themselves ‘pro-life.’”

239

Psalm 62

In God alone there is rest for my soul, from Him comes my safety; with Him alone for my rock, my safety, my fortress, I can never fall.

How many times will you come rushing at a man, all of you, to bring him down like a wall already leaning over, like a rampart undermined?

Deceit their sole intention, their delight is to mislead; with lies on their lips they bless aloud, while curse inwardly.

Rest in God alone, my soul!  He is the source of my hope; with him alone for my rock, my safety, my fortress, I can never fall; rest in God, my safety, my glory, the rock of my strenght.

In God I find shelter; rely on Him people, at all times; unburden your hearts to Him, God is a shelter for us.

Ordinary men are only a puff of wind, important men delusion; put both in the scales and up they go, lighter than a puff of wind.  Put no reliance on extortion, no empty hopes in robbery; though riches may increase, keep your heart detached.

God has spoken once, twice I have heard this; it is for God to be strong, for you Lord to be loving; and You Yourself repay man as his works deserve.

240 Sort of off-topic. I got banned from HotAir. and here was my response to them: Unfortunately, I got this message too late since this is a secondary e-mail address which I do not check often. Perhaps, if you had made a public warning on the blog of inappropriate language at the time it happened then I would have self-censored myself, as others would have, no doubt. But that is neither here nor there. What's done is done. Although I do apologize for breaking the rules, I am not writing to beg forgiveness. What I wrote that got me banned was in my estimation not violent, nor did it specifically condone, approve of or call for any immediate or direct violence or violent acts to be committed upon anyone or any institution whatsoever. The nature of my comments were semi-sarcastic in tone which, if you had read the entire exchange I think you would have understood that. But you shot from the hip. Look, it's your game and you set the rules. So be it. However, as you must surely realize, the current political situation in the country borders at the very least on irresponsibility to outright impeachable abrogation of duties and oaths to uphold our Constitution. I know you know what no less a figure than Jefferson himself advocated in the face of a tyrannical government. The reason that I read and participate in blogs, especially yours, is to seek truth and accurate information as well as a source of inspiration and comradeship with like-minded individuals in the face of these trying times. If, as in my estimation, you decide to go way overboard in your censorship, what purpose are you serving? What is the point of what you are doing? At what point will it be acceptable for bloggers to point out the obvious - when Mark Lloyd has the authority to shut you down and then does so? I have a few family members who survived Nazi Germany. They saw each little (and not so little) step of the way the path to hell and still did nothing, convinced that it was better not to make waves, that things would get better. We know what happened, and I for one will not be silent in the face of what I fear is a threat to the life of this great nation. I am not violent. I do not condone violence. But what is happening in this country today is gravely serious. I will speak out and speak the truth as I see it in any way I can and to the extent that the law allows me to exercise my first amendment rights responsibly (not inciteful, slanderous, racist, libelous or otherwise illegal) to prevent history from repeating itself in the USA of today. Lastly, please realize I am on your side. I admire and respect what you do, and I will continue to follow Hot Air from the sidelines, so to speak. Nevertheless I am disappointed in your action. Good luck, g-dspeed. J.J.S.

241

No. I'm rationing the condoms. I hear those are considered a sin tax under CommieCare.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 21, 2010 08:51 PM (qRU1N)

Condoms, who needs those silly things anyway?

242 ObamaCare was always inevitable. It's the marriage of death and taxes.

243 Is there any way in hell that Joe Biden could do worse?

He'd probably find a way to accidentally launch nuclear weapons, God bless him.

In the meantime, however, I predict it won't be very long at this rate before we're hunting Democratic politicians with dogs...

244 btw, Paul Ryan's is IMPRESSIVE.  I hope he runs in 2012.  A President Ryan with very large GOP majorities may be our only hope to avoiding fiscal disaster.

245 I thought about this all day and I've come to the conclusion that I am truly screwed. 1. I am a ginger. 2. I am a Jew. 3. I have a chronic illness. An Obama hat trick so to speak. I won't even make it to the camps.

246 If the senate bill passes the house tonight, this will go away by next week.

Posted by: No One You Know at March 21, 2010 08:48 PM (NZugw)

They only wish this will go away by next week.

This will never go away for them. It will roil the country forever and plant a deep-seated, almost feral hatred of the Left into the American people forever. Just as Roe vs. Wade resolved nothing, but has roiled the country over the ensuing 35 years, to the point that abortion became a pivotal factor in the war over ObamaCare... this will never go away for them.

And Roe vs. Wade was nothing compared to this.

247 Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund President Marjorie Dannenfelser said the group was revoking its “Defender of Life” award to Stupak, which was to be awarded at its Wednesday night gala.

They should have kept their mouths shut and told him on Wednesday.  Possibly with rotten fruit.

248 Posted by: sickinmass at March 21, 2010 08:52 PM (1rflU) I was looking for a yes or no, but nice post

249
btw, I DL'd a movie called DEFENDOR, today, with Woody Harrelson.

I'll be watching that tonight.

250

246...

I wish they would have held the announcement until it could actually make its way into the commentary. Or, better yet, let him show up for the awards program and then inform him that it had been revoked.

It would have gone viral on You Tube.

251 #256  They should have kept their mouths shut and told him on Wednesday.  Possibly with rotten fruit.

With dogshit too, because that's all his "word" is worth.

252 The Declaration of Independence would be banned at Hot Air.

253 If you live in a blue state, don't send your census form in. Less people means less representation! So in a state like CAL, ILL, MASS, don't send it back. Then you choke the machines that need to govt money.

254 239 I like the song which was covered by Concrete Blonde and Leonard Cohen.
about a kid with a Pirate radio station...who used it to buck the system..at a corrupt High School...and it is ironic to me ..because it fits here and now

Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:46 PM (cde+b)

Everybody knows?  http://bit.ly/zSsvu

TY vary much for the link he played that song at the start of every show..get the movie if u get the chance..it might even be free somewhere on the net "Pump up the Volume" the star is a young Christan Slater..i think..its got good music all thru it

255 I thought about this all day and I've come to the conclusion that I am truly screwed.
1. I am a ginger.
2. I am a Jew.
3. I have a chronic illness.

Well, I'm not ginger.  OTOH, Mayo keeps finding even better news (insert heavy sarcasm here) on the chronic illness front.  At this rate, I'd better buy stock with the Prednisone manufacturers.

See you on the killing roads to the camps.

256 Obama is going to give a speech in the East Room after the bill passes. He's doing to pat himself on the back for a job well done. Though, I guess he deserves it--he's certainly gifted at bribery. Scumbag. 

257 Though, I guess he deserves it--he's certainly gifted at bribery. Scumbag. Posted by: Miss'80s, yelling "Don't Tread on Me!" at March 21, 2010 08:57 PM (yfJ6g) Well he from Chicago or did I miss something?

258 So we're gonna see tax increases as soon as it is signed?  Fucking 52%'ers.

259 Give me chicken or give me death!

260 254 btw, Paul Ryan's is IMPRESSIVE.  I hope he runs in 2012.  A President Ryan with very large GOP majorities may be our only hope to avoiding fiscal disaster.

He's already said he wouldn't. But I agree, I am definitely impressed with him. Sent him a note of thanks.

261 255 Difference is Roe v Wade was the result of the courts, this bill was voted on by elected officials who ca get voted out.

There will he electoral blood come November 2010, not to mention 2012.

262 @250 So, where should Paul Revere ride? Where should the first military battle be fought? Where is our Concord on the Green? I am with you.

263 The Declaration of Independence would be banned at Hot Air.

Posted by: eman at March 21, 2010 08:55 PM (3fzoU)

The Declaration would just be killed in moderation.  Jefferson would be banned.

264 267 So we're gonna see tax increases as soon as it is signed?  Fucking 52%'ers.

Damn, now I gotta cut the amount of Skinemax pron clips I buy now.  Bastards, think of the Skinemax 90's B-actresses!

265 Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund President Marjorie Dannenfelser said the group was revoking its “Defender of Life” award to Stupak, which was to be awarded at its Wednesday night gala.

Damn.

Wish she hadn't of said that.

Should have waited for him to show up at the dinner and then pelted him with rotten produce.

Well, I guess that'll teach them to ever, ever, give accolades to a politician who says they are pro-life if the are a Democrat.

Democrat = Abortion Enthusiast

Always.

266

41% of people actually think this is a good idea?

Public education has successfully propagandized several generations of children now. Thus the 41%. And the schools get more hardcore socialist every year. Even if we had defeated this today, that number would be 60% in another 15-20 years.

267 The Democrats are coming!  The Democrats are coming!!

268

Stop. Chill. Think, Minority Leader Stupak. November. .....a dish best served cold.

Carry on.

269

I watched commercials for the Hoveround and several drug companies this afternoon and thought, uh huh, say hello to manually driven wheelchairs and ibuprofin for all, folks.

Someone mentioned a while back about the effort sometime in the mid-century when the U.S. Patent Office was going to be closed due to their opinions that everything had been invented.

At this point, perhaps we're close to being able to say that at least so far as medical devices and pharmaceuticals are concerned.

270 Public education has successfully propagandized several generations of children now. Thus the 41%. And the schools get more hardcore socialist every year. Even if we had defeated this today, that number would be 60% in another 15-20 years. Posted by: The Dude Abides at March 21, 2010 09:00 PM (QtRBc) Well if they live till majority age under this health plan?

271
In the meantime, however, I predict it won't be very long at this rate before we're hunting Democratic politicians with dogs...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 21, 2010 08:53 PM (SHKl9)

Just say the word

272 @247 I think Psalm 109:8 and the following sum things up nicely

273 New post on constitutional amendments.

274

In the meantime, however, I predict it won't be very long at this rate before we're hunting Democratic politicians with dogs...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 21, 2010 08:53 PM (SHKl9)

I'd like to take a few of them about 15 miles offshore, drop them in the water, chum it and then leave.

275

TY vary much for the link he played that song at the start of every show..get the movie if u get the chance..it might even be free somewhere on the net "Pump up the Volume" the star is a young Christan Slater..i think..its got good music all thru it

Posted by: ATEXAN at March 21, 2010 08:56 PM (cde+b)

Dude, I was a starry-eyed teenage girl with major lady wood for Slater when that movie came out.  Must have seen it 30 times in the theatre with my gal pals.  And I can't help but watch it when it's on tv, then marvel at how badly he's aged, haha.

276 In the meantime, however, I predict it won't be very long at this rate before we're hunting Democratic politicians with dogs...

Hey...I got a dog!

277 One if by front, two if by back!

278

279

@281

Agree 100%

280 The end is near!  Well at least I made a batch of cherry brandy cavendish today to smoke on the road to hell.

281 What's happening now?

282 I'd like to take a few of them about 15 miles offshore, drop them in the water, chum it and then leave.

Posted by: Blazer at March 21, 2010 09:03 PM (t72+4)

They'll just come back and talk about how much they identify with the plight of the Cubans, at which point the KosKids will swoon and donate millions to the cause.

283 290 What's happening now?

Posted by: Miss'80s, yelling "Don't Tread on Me!" at March 21, 2010 09:04 PM (yfJ6g)

Do you have your tv off, too?  I'm trying to do homework, and failing miserably...this shit is going to be late.

284

Public education has successfully propagandized several generations of children now. Thus the 41%. And the schools get more hardcore socialist every year. Even if we had defeated this today, that number would be 60% in another 15-20 years.

Posted by: The Dude Abides at March 21, 2010 09:00 PM (QtRBc)

I have a bad feeling about how this whole sorry mess is going to end. As their socialist paradise begins to crumble they will get ugly and violent.

p.s. Loved the Big Lebowski as well.

285 265 Obama is going to give a speech in the East Room after the bill passes. He's doing to pat himself on the back for a job well done. Though, I guess he deserves it--he's certainly gifted at bribery. Scumbag. 

Posted by: Miss'80s, yelling "Don't Tread on Me!" at March 21, 2010 08:57 PM (yfJ6g)

Yeah? Well, FUCK HIM. And every last one of the slack jawed motherfuckers that voted for him.

286 "236 What is the likelihood that this thing is still in the Senate by tax day?

About zero. If the senate bill passes the house tonight, this will go away by next week.  Accolades on the"historic" legislation for a couple of days, then it's law.  The Senate ain't touching the reconciliation bill.

Posted by: No One You Know at March 21, 2010 08:48 PM (NZugw)"

So, when that Republican Senator from Texas said that "he'd be watching them" that essentially means that every piece of legislation in the future will be argued and dissected to the nth degree by the republicans? 

287

Come, Comrades! Let us boldy go into the Glorious Utopian Future!

Lie back and think of Obama.  The pain will soon subside.

288 i have people ask me all the time "Why don't you go all the way and become a Physician?" (I'm a Physician Assistant) I always tell them ... nobody is telling the plumber how much they can make, nobody is telling the barista how much they can make, nobody is telling the carpenter how much they can make ... yet. Why the fuck would I go to school for all those years and end up making a pittance of a salary that's barely cover my loans? Fuck you Obama, Fuck you democrats, Fuck you SOCIALIST mother fuckers. Hope you enjoy DMV Medicine, hope you enjoy your fucking TRABANTS.

289

296...

A chill just went up my spine.

290 261 The Declaration of Independence would be banned at Hot Air.

Posted by: eman at March 21, 2010 08:55 PM (3fzoU)

AP wishes stays anonymous because he doesn't want anyone to see that he's growing a long gray ponytail.

291

Dude, I was a starry-eyed teenage girl with major lady wood

Posted by: tdpwells at March 21, 2010 09:03 PM (Ei3oZ)

I don't know if that expression is normal among the younger set these days, but that is really nasty stuff.  Nothing personal, Ms. Wells, but that expression turns my stomach just reading it. 

Don't be offended, I go off on people who say "hate on" also.

292 I'd like to take a few of them about 15 miles offshore, drop them in the water, chum it and then leave.
Posted by: Blazer at March 21, 2010 09:03 PM (t72+4)

I prefer ropes, lampposts, and gibbets.

Pour encourager les autres.

293

No. I'm rationing the condoms. I hear those are considered a sin tax under CommieCare.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 21, 2010 08:51 PM (qRU1N)

No, actually, it will be condoms for all, and a tax on newborns. Got to reduce the stress on earth goddess mother gaia, you know.

294

Here's how I hope it works out:

In November 2010, the Rs take back the House, and maybe the Senate: Gridlock.

In 2012, the Rs take the Executive and the Senate by whatever margin.

Since the Ds passed Obamacare by "reconciliation" (the nuclear option) the 60 vote Senate rule is effectively dead. They will regret that.

In 2012 the Rs, with the House, Senate, and the Presidency repeal Obamacare with a simple majority if necessary, by 60 votes if possible. FU Democrats.

With luck, this is the end of the Ds for a generation.

295 I want Michele Bachmann as Speaker of the House. Fuck Boehner. He's been there forever and he's part of the fucking problem. Give it to Michele. She understands the problems and she'll cut the Dems' fucking nuts off.

296

Hunting them with dogs...hmmm...can I ride to the hounds?  I'll even be sporting and give them a head start.

 

297 Actually, the Mongolian method of justice sounds kinda good right now...I have four horses and some very strong rope.

298

LOL! American Spectator calls Dan Benishek the most popular Republican in America as of today.

I wonder how that happened?

299 Question - when do the Republicans make that recommit move (if they make it at all), before or after the House votes on healthcare? I assume before, but have read conflicting ideas.

300 I have a bad feeling about how this whole sorry mess is going to end. As their socialist paradise begins to crumble they will get ugly and violent.
Posted by: sharrukin at March 21, 2010 09:05 PM (593B

Here are things that bother me:

- Young people being led to believe from an early age that they deserve to have a nice house, nice car, high paying job as soon as they graduate from college because they deserve it.

- The general lack of respect towards humanity in general and the elderly in specific, cultivated by the left, especially among young people. The irony is that this lack of respect was first manifested in the 60s by many (not all) of the Boomer generation, and now they are becoming the target.

The left's policies on socialized medicine, the economy, and the financial sector will follow to their logical conclusion, which is Detroit on a national scale. When that happens, the young people will feel cheated and will demand retribution, and their targets will be the elderly who will in their eyes be seen as using up all of the resources while providing nothing in return. This is when the death panels will kick in.

To the left, Logan's Run wasn't a story, it was a how-to book.

301 Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 21, 2010 09:09 PM (A46hP)

It actually entered the mainstream via Will and Grace - Karen said it a lot.

302 292 290 Do you have your tv off, too?  I'm trying to do homework, and failing miserably...this shit is going to be late.

Turned CSPAN on to see Paul Ryan warning about the coming Eurorpean-like socialist state. He said the Rs wouldn't stop fighting until the legisltation dies. The R side &/or the gallery cheered. He then yielded back him time. Was going hoarse, anyone.

The Dems are now asking the Chair for unanimous consent on words being added to the record....Now the R from Colorado. I'm shocked--the Rs have more of a spine than I ever thought possible. Cheers.   

303

Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 21, 2010 09:23 PM (zLhuq)

I'm willing to shelter a few of you old Boomers when the youngsters go on their rampage. You're going to have to prove to me you're a conservative before I take you in, though.

304

310  You make some very good points -- parents, teach your children well and do not allow the school to do it, nor any of those "villages".

Fortunately, there are still some children and grandchildren who think of their grandparents fondly.

305 Actually, the Mongolian method of justice sounds kinda good right now...I have four horses and some very strong rope.

Posted by: unknown jane at March 21, 2010 09:20 PM (5/yRG)

I like to stick with Western Civilization ... brazen bulls for the lot!

306 Oh brother.....Chyburn is dumbass, this is civil rights issue? Fucking moron....

307 He's kidding himself. All the Dems can offer is jobs & health rights. "Plain, easy-to-understand language" from your insurance provider. Right. This donut-hole crap is also getting on my nerves.

308 It actually entered the mainstream via Will and Grace - Karen said it a lot.

Posted by: tdpwells at March 21, 2010 09:23 PM (Ei3oZ)

I see.  I never saw that show.  I guess it's a generational thing, but I just can't take that expression.  It's pretty twisted to my mind.  But ... we have girls getting into fistfights, these days, so I guess it fits right in.  Sad, I would say.  Biological differences between males and females are ignored, or actively attacked, at society's great peril.

309 Turned CSPAN on to see Paul Ryan warning about the coming Eurorpean-like socialist state.

Posted by: Miss'80s, yelling at March 21, 2010 09:25 PM (yfJ6g)

He's way off. European socialist states had the US to draft off of and leech off of. We have no one comparable.  Our system is just going to come to a grinding halt and services will hang on for a little bit and then quickly deteriorate.

310 Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 21, 2010 09:23 PM (zLhuq)

I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I do not think young people will be the driving force. They never are, despite what a youth obsessed culture would have you believe. They will act as disruptors but they rarely instigate anything. The socialist assumptions you point out will be the big problem. We could see a resurgence of something resembling Communism, or outright National Socialism as the Chinese are drifting towards.

It will not break down based on age but more likely ethnicity and class. The collapse of Yugoslavia is one example of these sorts of things as is Bagdad. The Sunni's are being slowly driven out of Shia areas of Bagdad. Before the outbreak of violence Sarajevo and Bagdad were models of co-operation between different groups and it was rather shocking to many how quickly people turned against each other.

The anger you mention on the part of the young is undirected, and that will likely be taken advantage of by those unencumbered by morality. Katrina and what happened there is an example of anger turned against a target that had nothing to do with placing them in that situation, and was in fact exploited by those who were responsible.

311

312 Stupak must have a fuckingly incredible security team at his disposal right now.

Cheney - "Nice family you got there Stupak. Be a shame if anything were to happen to it."

313 Biological differences between males and females are ignored, or actively attacked, at society's great peril.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 21, 2010 09:33 PM (A46hP)

...wow.  It's an expression, man.  Go back to ignoring the chicken fucking comments in every other thread, the Andrew Sullivan sock comments, and make sure you don't go into the ONT.

314 I think Rush was right when he said he believes that Obama will ruin the Democratic party. he pretty much got his entire party to sign a suicide pact to pas this unpopular piece of legislation so they can usher in their socialist utopia.

You do not waste your entire troops to take a position as you will not have the manpower to hold it form any coming counter attack.

315 Posted by: tdpwells at March 21, 2010 09:50 PM (Ei3oZ)

I told you that it was nothing personal.  I wasn't attacking you.  I was only speaking about the expression.  It is not the same as raunchy jokes or expressions - which was my point.

316 @ 313 I'm willing to shelter a few of you old Boomers when the youngsters go on their rampage.

Heh, forgot to add my disclaimer that I am not a Boomer. My dad is not a Boomer, my mom, stepmother, and stepfather are, but they are all about as far away as you can get from what the media and pop culture portray as the Boomer mentality. Same with my wife's family, in fact, in talking with my wife's aunt last year she and her husband (in their 60s) were very excited to have attended their first protest rally ever, which was a Tea Party. They were and still are very pissed.

@320 The anger you mention on the part of the young is undirected, and that will likely be taken advantage of by those unencumbered by morality. Katrina and what happened there is an example of anger turned against a target that had nothing to do with placing them in that situation, and was in fact exploited by those who were responsible.

That right there is what I was trying to get at. The young people are never the brains behind these things, just the muscle. Hitlerjugend, New Soviet Man, the Cultural Revolution, etc. Destroy the remnants of the old ways to pave the way for the future. My wife had a friend who grew up during the Cultural Revolution and had a few stories about it. Not good, not good at all.

The natural result of leftism is suffering and murder.

317 Anyone see that they tried to introduce a vote on the abortion language & it was shot down by the chair?

318 mpfs and additional blonde agent i will see you guys on the death march to the camps.  Ironic that my relatives in the former USSR have a lot more freedom than we do.  Oh and Fuck off Barky and die slowly and badly Soros.