February 18, 2010
— Ace This is a common practice of the left. Take the right's complaints about you and argue, ludicrously, that they actually apply more to the right itself.
The left, for example, decided that the right's complaints that they were weak-kneed and a bit squeamish about purposeful, effective violence actually demonstrated that the right was a bunch of panty-twisted pee-stained pussyboys. It became a treasured trope on the left that they, the left, constituted "the brave" because they were courageous enough to not be troubled at all by terrorism. While those on the right called out for their mommies (their mommies being the fighting men and women of the US armed forces).
And now, as Sarah Palin as been riding the anti-elitist horse for a while, it becomes the new stupid meme that it's really Sarah Palin who's the elitist. Google it! Notice they have no problem at all abandoning their previous trope (elitism is good and only an imbecile would argue differently) and sliding into the complete opposite notion (Sarah Palin is the real elistist; the lefties are in fact... I don't know, the Common Man being grinded down under her chic heel).
“I’m never going to pretend like I know more than the next person,” [Sarah Palin] recently told Chris Wallace, which is just as well.
That snide little aside, I remind you, appears in a column arguing that Sarah Palin is the real elitist here.
And she added: “I’m not going to pretend to be an elitist. In fact, I’m going to fight the elitist, because for too often and for too long now, I think the elitists have tried to make people like me and people in the heartland of America feel like we just don’t get it.” At the Tea Party convention in Nashville, Palin made a similar claim for the moral superiority of ordinariness, twangily championing “real people, not politicos, not inside-the-Beltway professionals,” and “everyday Americans,” and finally “the people.” Palin is packaging herself as the perfect image of the American mean. It is an affront to the heartland....
The invocation of “the people” sounds inclusive, but it is a technique of exclusion. (This was also the case in the preamble to the Constitution.)
Just curious -- how so? Where's he getting that? I suppose he may mean "the people" excluded slaves, but the word "people" doesn't actually achieve that. "We the Free Men of the United States,or even "We the Citizens," would have that meaning; "We the People" simply does not.
Certainly the Constitution did differentiate between free men and slaves, but it did not do so with the term "the People," which actually undermines the later distinction made in the 3/5ths compromise.
But I guess we can forgive him his stupidity because he's currently posturing as a Common Man being abused by that wicked elitist Sarah Palin.
It is based upon a particular definition of “the people.” How do Palin and the partiers know who the real Americans are? The mystical certainty of her divisive intuition reminds me of what intellectual historians used to call the “epistemological privilege” of Marx’s proletariat, his reprehensible old idea that access to truth is a feature of class position. Palin, too, is idealizing the proletariat for the uniqueness of its understanding, though her economics is starkly indifferent to its tribulations. And if you throw in Palin’s views on the “social issues,” on the questions by which we measure the decency of our society, then it is clear that this is an anti-elitism that is not an egalitarianism, a common touch without genuine commonality, which is quite an accomplishment.
Um, so far she seems to be saying that "common people" are deserving of respect that the elites do not grant them, and this idiot is confirming all that.
Essentially this guy -- Leon Weisetilier of TNR -- is angry. He and his cronies have repeatedly insisted on the special privileges of what his buddy David Brooks proudly calls The Educated Class; Palin is refusing to extend that privilege to them, and he's whining about it, basically arguing that if he and his buddies are not given their special privilege to rule the plebians then Sarah Palin is being "elitist" by refusing to admit they are entitled to their asserted public-policy psuedo-intellectual droit de seigneur.
Um, like I said, he's posturing as a poor downtrodden member of the Harvard-Yale-Princeton axis, so I guess I'll permit him his stupidity.
There is also the rather immense hypocrisy of Palin and many other populists. Anyone who has run for the vice presidency, and has published a monster bestseller, and appears regularly on television, and will run for the presidency is a member in good standing of the American elite.
Ummmm... no. This is like saying that a nouveau riche arriviste is a member in good standing of the upper class. No, that guy is not, as amply demonstrated by the two slurs the Old Money class has created to put him down, "nouveau riche" and "arriviste."
The whole point is that while such a person would seem to have attained the key thing to afford him entry into that class and make him a "member in good standing" of that class, the old members of it resent his intrusion into it and come up with exclusionary put-downs to hedge him out.
And he's sitting here telling us that Sarah Palin -- Sarah Palin!, of all people -- is supposedly a "member in good standing" of the elite class, even though he, and 98% of the other members of the self-professed elite, have done nothing but belittle and savage her for two years running now.
But she's a member in good standing.
Of course she is, darling.
Is he really trying to pretend he doesn't know that blue-collar kids who make some money aren't routinely excluded and derided by their supposed social betters?
Even lesser attainments of prominence and success confer the same loathed status. The anti-elitists in the Republican caucus in the House and the Senate, and in the conservative commentariat, and in the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Institute--they are anti-elitists in the elite.
Um, yeah. Well, Andrew Jackson was kind of elite himself, wasn't he?, and yet he is generally considered the last of the truly great populists and anti-elitists.
Look, this is very simple, Leon: Some people are class traitors, and that's what you resent. You see people like Palin and other class traitors, people who should be thanking you allowing them to breathe the same rarefied air you do, instead running you down, and it makes you angry.
Obviously a great many conservative intellectuals have benefited from an elite education. But they do not share the ethos and mores of the Harvard-Yale-Princeton axis, and that's what makes people like this so angry with them. Not only do they resist the blandishments of the Smug Set, they confound the nice simple narrative the Smug Set likes to deploy -- that everyone who disagrees with them is uncultured, uneducated, and unintelligent.
Scott Brown proved that nothing gets you to Washington faster than a pickup truck, but he will have a hideaway now. For years liberals used to be ridiculed for their condescension to “the people.”
And rightly so. Because his expression of how in-touch with "the people" he is consists of...
” (Like every common man I adore the scene in The Deer Hunter when Robert De Niro, John Cazale, Christopher Walken, and the others in the bar sing “Can’t Take My Eyes Off You” along with the jukebox, but when I saw it a few weeks ago it looked to me like a bunch of guys from Tribeca slumming in a Pennsylvania steel town.)
... watching a movie about "the poeple."
Now conservatives deserve the same ridicule. The comforting fact is that there is no significant ideology and no significant policy agenda that is not represented among the elite.
Represented among the elite, sure. "The elite" always has its share of eccentrics. (As they say, an "eccentric" is just a lunatic who has enough money to keep the agents of the loony bin away.)
But what is the dominant ethos of the self-professed elite? Is he really pretending there is not a very dominant left-liberal-progressive dominant ethos among those he terms "the elite"? (And by the way-- would this guy consider a man who'd attained the rank of Colonel at a young age "elite"? You're goddamned right he wouldn't. He means only people who fucking type for a living.)
....There is a distinction between populism and “the people,” though most populists do not want you to know it. The populism that bases its criticisms on a preference for one segment of the populace is merely another special interest, its denunciations of special interests notwithstanding.
When a "special interest" is the around 10-33% of the electorate we generally stop calling it a "special interest." How "special" is an interest shared by 90 million people?
Incidentally, this is another borrowed meme, shabbily lifted from other lefty writers with no attempt at attribution. Robert Wright was just making the stupid case that the Tea Party -- consisting of 33 million people who have actively participated in Tea Parties, and tens of millions more who consider themselves such -- was just another "special interest."
Riiiiight.
Why not just deem the entirety of the GOP one great big special interest?
(And, to attribute this myself, Mickey Kaus already questioned Wright's curious assertion that a grassroots mass of 90 million people was a "special" interest, as opposed to, say, an "interest," period.)
This does not mean that its criticisms are wrong; but when they are right, it is because their reasons are moral, not sociological.
No one really argued otherwise, idiot. If the populists sound defensive and work hard to establish their wisdom, it's because people like you have denied their wisdom and even their right to speak publicly at all for 50 years; so yeah, when they speak publicly, they do feel the burden -- which you don't -- of first establishing they have the right to be heard at all.
Now, having attempted to call Sarah Palin an "elitist," he resorts to the standard elitist meme...
...The anti-politician politicians who seek the favor of angry Americans are deceiving them, because anger is nothing more lasting than a political consultantÂ’s contract. Emotions are stoked by elections and are spent by them. What remains after the great manipulation is the increasingly Sisyphean task of public reason, which is its own kind of insurgency.
It is a cherished trope of the elitists and the left (but I repeat myself) that the uncouth, uneducated subhumans they lord over only act out of dark emotion such as fear and hate and rage, while the elite left of course is thoughtful and reasoned.
What the hell would you call this screed? I call it 800 words of angry, defensive name-calling disguised, as it often is, in that carefully-contrived more-in-sorrow-than-anger pose of the hateful leftist elite always employs when they look down upon their rebellious slaves and shake their heads with practiced sadness. If only the slaves would realize their masters mean the very best for them, and are much better equipped to make decisions for them.
But you know -- Sarah Palin is the elitist.
The left likes to claim that every term the stupid morons use for Obama -- socialist, arrogant, etc. -- is a disguised racial slur. We really mean the n-word, it is always posited.
You tell me -- is this not an 800 word, tarted up manner of calling Sarah Palin an ungrateful, uppity c*nt?
Thanks to DanF.
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Of course she's an elitist!
When was the last time you got to hunt teh Hobos from a Helicopter, Ace?
That's Elitist shit, right there.
Posted by: Rahm Emmanuel at February 18, 2010 11:10 AM (gOiiu)
Posted by: TXMarko at February 18, 2010 11:10 AM (9oSFD)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at February 18, 2010 11:10 AM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Dr. Amy Effin' Bishop at February 18, 2010 11:11 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at February 18, 2010 11:13 AM (cxGtL)
Posted by: bill-tb at February 18, 2010 11:14 AM (y+QfZ)
Since lefties behave like children the old I'm made of rubber your made of glue argument is a perfectly legitimate tactic.
Posted by: Mal at February 18, 2010 11:15 AM (Z+qzA)
I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that the same author wrote a piece championing John Edwards "Touch of the Common Man" essay ....
brb
Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 18, 2010 11:15 AM (ruzrP)
Monkeys flinging poo, and hoping something, anything - will stick.
These people couldn't reach a consensus on water being wet.
Posted by: TXMarko at February 18, 2010 11:17 AM (9oSFD)
This is a common practice of the left. Take the right's complaints about you and argue, ludicrously, that they actually apply more to the right itself.
This is actually a common practice of the right.
Posted by: WaterCow at February 18, 2010 11:19 AM (cQyWA)
Posted by: Terry at February 18, 2010 11:20 AM (Vui52)
They constantly defer to their concept of an 'elite.' Of course, most Leftists consider themselves part of that elite, reaching down to the little person (their chattel).
They think telling government to fuck off is good when it comes to the concept of public order (they love the First Amendment when it's flouting society), but it's oh-so-evil when it's actually about functional freedom and the elimination of that elite class of controllers who are trying to take decisions away from you.
It's their dream society that is top down, centrally-planned, administered by their Ivy League elite. They are the ones who constantly lament people who 'vote against their self-interest,' as long as they get to define what a person's self-interest is and should be. They are the ones that represent herding their fellow man into a bureaucracy that treats them as a herd, not as individuals, and not as equal humans with the rights, ability, and responsibility to manage their own affairs. They're elitist to the core, and they're so twisted with projection they can't even understand what that means.
Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2010 11:20 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: awkward davies at February 18, 2010 11:21 AM (wb68R)
Scott Brown proved that nothing gets you to Washington faster than a pickup truck, but he will have a hideaway now.
I'll take gross oversimplifications for whatever is left in the Kennedy liquor cabinet, Alex.
The invocation of “the people” sounds inclusive, but it is a technique of exclusion. (This was also the case in the preamble to the Constitution.)
Aaaaannnnndddd, there it is: The telltale sign of the Marxist. Ah yes, there is only one way to read "the people." And I love the invocation of the Constitution in that regard in the now largely-forgotten-except-in-academia lefty interpretation of the Founders as just another bunch of bourgeois oppressors.
I still love how Palin makes them shake and pee on the rug like a bunch of yap dogs...just by existing.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 18, 2010 11:21 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: rrpjr at February 18, 2010 11:22 AM (+0Jv9)
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2010 11:22 AM (tTdaQ)
Posted by: rawmuse at February 18, 2010 11:23 AM (pHXRn)
"Mrs. Palin regularly invokes the name of the most revered of her heroes, Ronald Reagan—among the sunniest stars ever to mount the political stage, and a leader who spoke to all of America. He did not appeal to the aggrieved. Nor did he see in the oratory of grievance, or talk of real Americans and those who were not, a political platform."
I think Rabinowitz is off the mark there - but her criticism in the same article of Palin's endorsement of Rand Paul is fair. That endorsement is a mistake, but one hopes it won't be repeated.
Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2010 11:23 AM (GU29T)
Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2010 11:24 AM (MMC8r)
and can't swim a stroke.
Posted by: with apologies to someone at February 18, 2010 11:25 AM (PD1tk)
Posted by: rawmuse at February 18, 2010 03:23 PM (pHXRn)
Don't worry, we'll talk louder and slower.
Posted by: Some Liberal at February 18, 2010 11:26 AM (7BU4a)
(Not to mention carving up a moose...)
Posted by: Warthog at February 18, 2010 11:26 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2010 11:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lib Dummy Who Is Also An Asshole at February 18, 2010 11:27 AM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: Truman North at February 18, 2010 11:27 AM (e8YaH)
Pretty tough balancing act for Sarah. I mean it must take some kind of special person to be an ignorant redneck snowbilly and an elitist at the same time.
/these fucks don't know whether they are sucking or blowing that write this shit.
Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2010 11:28 AM (OlN4e)
Anyone wanna bet the author of that piece drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon, but not for the reasons everyone drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon? Anyone who does anything "ironically" loses the right to call anyone else an elitist.
Posted by: Joanna at February 18, 2010 11:29 AM (HaYO4)
Tarted up is a nice way to put it. This guy is throwing in big words and every historical reference possible to show how smart he is, to give him gravitas. But all it does is come across as incomprehensible, stilted drivel, exactly what asshats like this like to masturbate to.
Posted by: taylork at February 18, 2010 11:29 AM (0Hn5w)
Posted by: ian cormac at February 18, 2010 11:30 AM (/GonQ)
It's their dream society that is top down, centrally-planned, administered by their Ivy League elite. They are the ones who constantly lament people who 'vote against their self-interest,' as long as they get to define what a person's self-interest is and should be. They are the ones that represent herding their fellow man into a bureaucracy that treats them as a herd, not as individuals, and not as equal humans with the rights, ability, and responsibility to manage their own affairs. They're elitist to the core, and they're so twisted with projection they can't even understand what that means.
Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2010 03:20 PM (MMC8r)
Indeed, the technocracy they seek would maintain the appearance of representative government, but all the decisions of any important would be made by the self selected bureaucracy. You can see some of this today in the US, but it is much more fleshed out in Europe.
Interestingly, this ideal government for the left is a hybrid of national socialism and feudalism.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 18, 2010 11:30 AM (7BU4a)
How can she be an "Icebilly" and an elitist at the same time?
Maybe there is an attempt at a new category....lace curtain icebilly?
Posted by: Who Knows at February 18, 2010 11:30 AM (7FgWm)
Posted by: Dan at February 18, 2010 11:30 AM (1jzSs)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2010 11:31 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: taylork at February 18, 2010 11:31 AM (0Hn5w)
Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2010 11:31 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Lib Dummy Who Is Also A Racist at February 18, 2010 11:32 AM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: taylork at February 18, 2010 11:32 AM (0Hn5w)
Yup. Remember, women are supposed to be strong, powerful and make their own choices. Unless that choice is to be conservative and/or a wife and mother. That choice proves that the woman isn't actually a woman but something else entirely.
I'm amused by the people who are shocked at the misogyny of the Left. Yeah, that's always been there.
Posted by: alexthechick at February 18, 2010 11:33 AM (8WZWv)
And yet she is unpopular and has no chance. So the experts ALL say (<i>cough,Ace,cough</i>
Somehow I' don't think that 'has no chance' means what they think it means. But I hope all the Palin-phobes keep on keeping on. Bring it on guys. More,more,more.
Because --- What makes America great is that somehow the great unwashed usually try to 'even things up' in a very sub-conscious way. After a while the abuse seems to become annoying in and of itself, and the victim of that abuse, becomes almost 'sympathetic' just by mere extension.
This drivel can only help Ms Palin and she is perfectly aware of that fact. The more she 'suffers', the greater she becomes.
It's a conundrum.
LOL.
Posted by: Dougf at February 18, 2010 11:34 AM (8JckG)
Anyone wanna bet the author of that piece drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon, but not for the reasons everyone drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon? Anyone who does anything "ironically" loses the right to call anyone else an elitist.
Posted by: Joanna at February 18, 2010 03:29 PM (HaYO4)
if I want to tear up my gut, I prefer Icehouse or Beast myself
Posted by: elitist asshole at February 18, 2010 11:36 AM (cBeTr)
However, a man born to a jet-setting pseudo-intellectual with a grandmother who was a banker, went to Ivy League schools on other people's dime, traveled the world aimlessly while high on God-only-knows-what, eats arugula and chard and a bunch of other shit I'd never even heard of until he ran for office, and never had a real job, is a populist champion of the blue-collar every-man.
....................................
Can we just summon the fucking meteors already? Humanity is too fucking stupid to survive. I'll happily die if it means I can see the end of the 52-percenters and this Bizarro World our society has morphed into.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 18, 2010 11:37 AM (IoUF1)
"...being grinded down under her chic heel."
I think I would pay a lot of money to have her do that to me.
Posted by: Michael at February 18, 2010 11:37 AM (FC2+c)
Posted by: Just Saying at February 18, 2010 11:38 AM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: Annabelle at February 18, 2010 11:39 AM (YNGr3)
Posted by: wherestherum at February 18, 2010 11:39 AM (gofDd)
Posted by: McLovin at February 18, 2010 11:39 AM (RwvN1)
What they're saying is that she's trash who thinks she's better than anyone else. Which of course is 100% projection when you look at all of the lib heroes, including a couple of very specific current ones who are "going to make you work".
Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 18, 2010 11:41 AM (5I0Yr)
Anyone who does anything "ironically" loses the right to call anyone else an elitist should die in a fucking fire with the rest of the goddamned hipsters.
I fixed it for you.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 18, 2010 11:41 AM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2010 11:42 AM (vb5IK)
So now to be an elite, you go to four or five different colleges - none Ivy - and then get mocked for it by the chattering class formerly known as elite?
Help me out here.
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2010 11:43 AM (+FkcS)
Monkeyboy wins the thread.
To wit: Can you imagine Vince Lombardi ever saying he adored the power sweep?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 18, 2010 11:44 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at February 18, 2010 11:45 AM (SzdHK)
Republicans had better be ready to have this colossal flaming sack of doo dumped into their lap. Dem strategy or not, it looks like it's going to be the Republican's problem starting next year. Baye has opened the floodgates and if the Republicans are still fighting over Palin by then, then the 'blue-dog" Dems will be back.
Posted by: Salem at February 18, 2010 11:45 AM (86rbG)
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2010 11:45 AM (tJF9l)
The arument is strangely reminiscent of the old "I'm rubber your glue" chant that was sooooo effective back in the day.
These people make me sick.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 18, 2010 11:46 AM (pr+up)
Good thing we have your translation.
I can't make head and tails out of this guy's whiney gripes.
Posted by: always right at February 18, 2010 11:47 AM (Wqfrr)
I fixed it for you.
See, I wasn't gonna go there originally, but now that you've said it ...
Posted by: Joanna at February 18, 2010 11:48 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 18, 2010 11:50 AM (r1h5M)
Palin just appeared at the Daytona 500 as a Special Guest of Honor, doesn't Leon know that NASCAR is the very essence of redneckery?
Didn't they teach him ANYTHING at Harvard/Yale/Princeton?
Wimbledon: GOOD
Talladega: BAD
Posted by: kallisto at February 18, 2010 11:51 AM (+FkcS)
Posted by: SoFedUp at February 18, 2010 11:53 AM (6npVY)
The Democrats are the original populists. Shame on corporations trying to buy our elections and bribing SCOTUS. Darn those greedy Wall St bankers who contribute exclusively to Democrat politicians. Spread the wealth!!!
There is a distinction between populism and “the people,” though most populists do not want you to know it. The populism that bases its criticisms on a preference for one segment of the populace is merely another special interest, its denunciations of special interests notwithstanding.
I seriously don't believe Iowa cares about the Iraq war as much as ethanol subsidies, and that is why the state went to Obama. He and Tom Daschle greased the right palms during the primaries. That right there is populism.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2010 11:53 AM (mHQ7T)
Wow. That's a lot of mental energy spent in an attempt to attack someone that doesn't matter. The endless psychodrama on the left is unbelievely tiresome.
Pity they can't generate something useful with all that energy and those facy edumacation thingys. Guess I'll go back to bitterly clingin to my bible and guns.
Posted by: joe at February 18, 2010 11:54 AM (rf1Kd)
omg, are they now saying she isn't an idiot snow billy> with a slew of kids, that can't complete a typical ivy league education, that gets her hands mucky with fish guts?
cuz she's too damned rich and liked to jetsetaround other countries in their childhood like pakistan, indonesia , (not military)just like every typical american does?
cough
Posted by: willow at February 18, 2010 11:56 AM (7FgWm)
Do they have an Ivy League law degree?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 18, 2010 11:56 AM (mR7mk)
okay, Ace says this:
This is a common practice of the left. Take the right's complaints about you and argue, ludicrously, that they actually apply more to the right itself.
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And then Professor Unawares Irony writes this:
This is actually a common practice of the right.
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Posted by: This is Clarence Darrow at February 18, 2010 11:57 AM (Frffg)
Interestingly, this ideal government for the left is a hybrid of national socialism and feudalism.
I believe it might be closer to an aristocracy or perhaps an oligarchy. The medieval nobility believed they were selected by God to rule, but part of that deal meant that they were supposed to care for the peasants as a father cared for his children. In reality, the peasants were slaves and were treated as such. The left approaches it the same way, they are anointed by nature as more intelligent, altruistic, and wise and need to think for the rest of the people. Their dream society requires that they destroy the middle class, because there can be no feudal society with a large middle class. A self-sufficient person has no need for a patrón.
The scary part to me is that while the medieval aristocracy was somewhat checked by the concept of eternal damnation, the modern left has no such check because they don't believe in a higher power. It is not a coincidence that the genocidal tyrants of the 20th century were all atheistic statists.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 18, 2010 11:58 AM (sXLx/)
Less than 10% of Iowans work in agriculture (admittedly, I'm not sure if that stat includes the illegal aliens as "Iowans"), and most of them as employees of big corporations and not farm owners. Iowa's politicians care about ethanol subsidies way more than the voters do.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 18, 2010 11:58 AM (mR7mk)
People who use the word "meme" are elitist.
So your trying to start a meme that only elitists use the word "meme"? Niiice.....
Posted by: marketing weasel at February 18, 2010 11:58 AM (7DB+a)
For instance, the Left is always saying we're weak on terrorism. That's why WE ACCUSE THEM of being weak on terrorism.
You see?
Posted by: This is Clarence Darrow at February 18, 2010 11:59 AM (Frffg)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at February 18, 2010 12:00 PM (4/RPk)
Posted by: nikkolai at February 18, 2010 12:02 PM (i4ujc)
I have another batch of spaghetti ready and my arm is all limbered up. Does anyone have a spare surface?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2010 12:03 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: joe at February 18, 2010 12:03 PM (hofRR)
I think there are two definitions of populism: economic populism, which is leftist in nature, and cultural populism, which is apolitical. Palin embodies the latter. The key is applying it in a principled manner and using it to "frame the issues". "I'm one of you. I understand your problems and have been through it myself, and here is why free-market conservatism will create jobs, protect your savings, make health care affordable, and is generally better for all of us", rather than "I'll stick my finger in the wind and embrace whatever policies I can use to buy your vote".
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 18, 2010 12:03 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: joe at February 18, 2010 12:04 PM (rf1Kd)
I can never get this straight: Are we at war with East Asia or Eurasia? I know we've always been at war with one and not the other, and I know this is the year 1984, yet somehow I'm always so confused about the actual facts. Maybe I need to consult MiniTru, and at the same time find out if Palin is a dumbfuck hick or an elite.
Posted by: antimatter at February 18, 2010 12:06 PM (gbCNS)
Bravo!
Leon Wieseltier. TNR. Bah. :dismissive hand wave:
This kind of stuff just makes me (and many others, I think) like Palin even more. The contempt our ruling class has for us is becoming more and more apparent. They don't even try to hide it any more!
But I guess that just makes me another bitter clinger, allowing a demagogue like Palin (boo! hiss!) to fan the flames of my resentment . . .
Posted by: tsj017 at February 18, 2010 12:10 PM (4YUWF)
But then why do the politicians get voted in? I have heard there used to be a lot more agriculture in Iowa, but these subsidies actually hurt small farmers with family businesses, as well as consumers. Sure, farmers account for 1% of the population, and 10% in Iowa is substantial. But they get a lot of taxpayer money, even though business is booming.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2010 12:11 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: kansas at February 18, 2010 12:14 PM (sPCho)
I'd shudder if this guy considered himself an "elite" writer.
Posted by: Techie at February 18, 2010 12:17 PM (zbH+i)
Posted by: Ellie Light at February 18, 2010 12:20 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: Neo at February 18, 2010 12:21 PM (tE8FB)
More Iowa farmers vote Republican than Democrat. The counties that vote Dem are the ones with larger populations. The five or six big towns outnumber all the rural areas. Urban voters in rural states vote democrat because they want to think they live in cities, and are all sophisticated and stuff.
It had nothing to do with ethanol.
Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at February 18, 2010 12:22 PM (Camtm)
androids, to have them blow a transistor. Yes she has a reputation for cleaning house, 'taking a flame thrower to the place' that's what we need, and in part explains this animus
Posted by: ian cormac at February 18, 2010 12:22 PM (/GonQ)
Nailed it. Anyone who wants to do actually anything about terrorism (or criminality for that matter) is supposedly a scared little sheep. This is probably calculated to damage one's pride and hopefully stop the discussion dead.
Posted by: fb at February 18, 2010 12:22 PM (G60Nl)
When did Leon Weisetilier of TNR publish his column?
ItÂ’s bad enough that Scott Thomas Beauchamp, TNR writer extraordinaire and most recent in a long line of journalistic titans and speakers-of-truth, was exposed for the fraud that he was.
How could this expose of a member of the Literary Class be permitted to happen? No wonder Weisetilier is angry.
(Side question: any chance that Weisetilier and Beauchamp have the same editor at TNR?)
But now that Doctor Amy Bishop is being held by the police to face justice as though she were just any member of the hoi polloi, Â… well Â… itÂ’s at the point that Ivy Leaguers canÂ’t express the opinion they feel to be accurate without being held to account.
Outrageous. Unjust. (Should we be digging in WeisetilierÂ’s past? Has he been seen at a shooting range lately?)
The oppression of poor downtrodden members of the Harvard-Yale-Princeton axis is now simply intolerable.
When will this questioning of oneÂ’s social and educational betters end?
Ace: do you serve Bactine with your fiskings? An excellent job. My complements.
Posted by: Arbalest at February 18, 2010 12:23 PM (JnWYr)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2010 12:24 PM (mHQ7T)
Anyone who does anything "ironically" loses the right to call anyone else an elitist.
I use the word "ironically" ironically.
(And you're all elitists.)
Posted by: WaterCow at February 18, 2010 12:24 PM (cQyWA)
That last line really woke me up. I really like those "Yikes" moments! Thanks.
Posted by: Patricia at February 18, 2010 12:25 PM (mA/by)
Not to be a jackass, but I had no idea there was anything close to a city in Iowa. I know the capital is Des Moines, but the only person I've met from Iowa was from Council Bluffs, "Home of Fat Women, Black Squirrels and $100 Cars."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2010 12:28 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 18, 2010 12:30 PM (ucq49)
Brooks! Frum! Noonan! Parker! Will! Meet me in the drawing room, we must devise a plan to keep this riff-raff at the lowbrow "nascar" events and declasse "gun shows" of flyover country where they belong (it's Peggy's turn to bring the foie gras and beluga).
Posted by: T. Coddington Von Voorhees III at February 18, 2010 12:37 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Dave S at February 18, 2010 12:38 PM (uHiz2)
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 18, 2010 12:39 PM (ypGDY)
Posted by: Dave S at February 18, 2010 12:40 PM (uHiz2)
Palin is every bit an elitist with training wheels-just as Obama has taken his wheels off.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe
Proof of this is buying a child an upscale car? Most middle class people I know here are then guilty. Firing people that they inherited upon obtaining an executive office? Because of the empirically obtained evidence of ass-kissing?
Fellow citizens, we must roll out the tumbrels and ready the guillotine!
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 18, 2010 12:41 PM (R2fpr)
Cornell Law. Ann Coulter graduated from there.
Whoops, I erred:
A Connecticut native, Coulter graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.
Posted by: TXMarko at February 18, 2010 12:46 PM (9oSFD)
"Nobody projects like the Left. It continually baffles me that people don't see how badly the Left projects in every. single. thing."
So, so true.++
Posted by: RM at February 18, 2010 12:47 PM (GkYyh)
Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 18, 2010 12:49 PM (DTffv)
Obama is one of us. He has an impeccably-creased bowling shirt.
Posted by: david brooks at February 18, 2010 12:49 PM (2qU2d)
Therefore, using Obama Logic, Ann Coulter is qualified to be president!
Posted by: tsj017 at February 18, 2010 12:52 PM (4YUWF)
Since the Progressive Era began a over century ago, 'left populism' has been almost totally hollow. Willian Jennings Bryan found that out in 1896: Progressivism is the cult of the Left, with no room for actual populist sentiments
Since the 1890s, populism has been a usually-nascent sentiment on the Right, well-used by some Rs ( Reagan and Newt ) but usually ignored or scorned.
This year--this Increasingly Amazing Year--populism has re-blossomed, on steriods. Be afraid, libs; be VERY afraid.........
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 18, 2010 12:52 PM (JrRME)
In reality, the peasants were slaves and were treated as such.
How can you tell Obama's an elite?
Posted by: peasant number one at February 18, 2010 12:55 PM (2qU2d)
That's kind of what I meant when I mentioned the five or six big towns, and that they want to think they live in cities. And by the way, since the cash for clunkers thing, you're talking about $4001 cars!
Posted by: TheGhostWhoWalks at February 18, 2010 12:56 PM (Camtm)
Posted by: Mal at February 18, 2010 03:15 PM (Z+qzA)
Mal. Bad. In the Latin.
18 I wouldn't mind some nice warm Moose guts right now.
Posted by: Jean at February 18, 2010 03:22 PM (tTdaQ)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 18, 2010 12:58 PM (jpf1B)
Posted by: tsj017 at February 18, 2010 04:52 PM (4YUWF)
I'd hit it. And vote for it in the morning.
Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at February 18, 2010 12:58 PM (dQdrY)
The mystical certainty of her divisive intuition reminds me of what intellectual historians used to call the “epistemological privilege” of Marx’s proletariat, his reprehensible old idea that access to truth is a feature of class position. Palin, too, is idealizing the proletariat for the uniqueness of its understanding, though her economics is starkly indifferent to its tribulations. And if you throw in Palin’s views on the “social issues,” on the questions by which we measure the decency of our society, then it is clear that this is an anti-elitism that is not an egalitarianism, a common touch without genuine commonality, which is quite an accomplishment.
While Wieseltier convulses in the throes of prosaic climax, we proles are left trying to wipe his gooey mindseed from our eyes. If the elites want something akin to respect from the commonfolk, the elites are going to have to quit reminding us that they're elite - and that starts with talking like a regular human being, not like they're reading from some super-snob vocabulary list.
Posted by: Jazz at February 18, 2010 01:00 PM (hnq5i)
What the hell would you call this screed?
Utter nonsense with big words, intended to be taken seriously by like-minded people. (To be fair, I only read the parts Ace excerpted. I couldn't bring myself to read all 800 words.)
"What remains after the great manipulation is the increasingly Sisyphean task of public reason, which is its own kind of insurgency."
That's my favorite sentence. As mich as I think I disagree with what he's saying here, I don't. I can't disagree with it. I don't know what it means. How is "public reason" a "task"? Is it possible for someone to do public reason? If someone can explain that to me, I'll just accept Sisypheanity of it, but how would it be any kind of insurgency?
Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2010 01:03 PM (cQyWA)
Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at February 18, 2010 01:13 PM (I7CVO)
For heaven-loving sakes! The Preamble does not say, "We the People!" It says, "We the People OF THE UNITED STATES." If anyone actually read the damn thing, they'd know that.
I swear, sometimes I truly believe I was the only seven-year-old who bothered to fact-check Schoolhouse Rock.
Posted by: VKI at February 18, 2010 01:14 PM (LZK9H)
That's my favorite sentence. As mich as I think I disagree with what he's saying here, I don't. I can't disagree with it. I don't know what it means. How is "public reason" a "task"? Is it possible for someone to do public reason? If someone can explain that to me, I'll just accept Sisypheanity of it, but how would it be any kind of insurgency?
Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2010 05:03 PM (cQyWA)
Me too FireHorse, but gosh, don't he rite purdy though?
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 18, 2010 01:15 PM (jpf1B)
Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2010 05:03 PM (cQyWA)
Couldn't agree more. Like you, I wearied of Weiseltier's numbing assault on my vocabulary skills. It's like his brain took a shit on his keyboard. I mean, WTF is "
Posted by: Jazz at February 18, 2010 01:22 PM (hnq5i)
Leon Weaseltears can't write for shit. You can't follow his reasoning because there is no reason behind it. Leon needs to get a thesaurus with shorter words and follow the advice of his word processor's grammatic function regarding run-on sentences.
Posted by: huerfano at February 18, 2010 01:29 PM (gLSaO)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at February 18, 2010 01:35 PM (JQPmu)
IIRC, Greta's husband was the one who did the legal work to establish SarahPAC and Hillary's PAC. His pet cause is helping female politicians.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 18, 2010 01:37 PM (IoUF1)
Orwell described the problem in his "Politics and the English Language". There are a class of people who choose to conceal their meaning behind poor writing, either because they know their plain meaning would be offensive, or because their thoughts are so muddied by GroupThink they can't think any other way.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 18, 2010 01:48 PM (n2wxa)
Must be a Thursday:
On Mon-Wed-Fri Palin is a hick, gun nut, and ill-educated boob
On Tues-Thurs-Sat Palin is a secret elitist
On Sundays the fucktards give it a rest.
Posted by: effinayright at February 18, 2010 01:52 PM (U/ul8)
Here's what's interesting though- matched up against Barack Obama, Sarah Palin gets 22% from people who don't think she's qualified to be President!"---PPP
The above posted just for Ace and/or Jeff B. With my compliments.
71% my a**.
Ms Palin to the white courtesy phone please, -- a Mr.2012 is calling.
Posted by: Dougf at February 18, 2010 02:07 PM (8JckG)
What the hell would you call this screed?
Incomprehensible gibberish.
Seriously, I don't even know what point this goober is trying to make.
And it ain't because he's too darned smart for me. It's because he can't write for shit.
Posted by: Warden at February 18, 2010 02:57 PM (QoR4a)
Ace, man that was awesome.
Sarah Palin is an elitist because she crashed their Ivy-League party? Caribou Barbie is in their heads and rearranging the furniture - all to the themme from Peter Gunn.
Enjoy the sensation, TNR; you of 'shattered Glass' and soldier Beauchamp reporting and analysis. Enjoy the total mind-fuck of a 'you betcha' stiletto heel grounded in your frontal lobes.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 18, 2010 04:40 PM (nlRuk)
Posted by: jeff at February 18, 2010 04:54 PM (iVzNt)
Posted by: john pearson at February 18, 2010 09:58 PM (0iFwQ)
The clause ONLY concerns the counting of people for the purposes of apportioning representatives. This HAD to be done otherwise slave owners with large numbers of slaves could have had a representative for themselves and their fellow local slave owners to gum up the works in the new Government. If this hadn't been done, many of the non-slave owning states would have refused to sign and the U.S.A. would have been stillborn.
Nowhere in the constitution will you find that blacks are said to be 3/5ths of a white person or any other such nonsense. This is a Black Nationalist canard used to claim that the constitution was racist on it's face from the beginning.
In fact written in the constitution is a section establishing when slavery could be abolished. This was written this way to gain the southern states acquiescence as an immediate ban would not have been signed by the southern states. However a time limit was put in place and at the appropriate time the U.S. did ban the importation of slaves.
In fact Great Britain and the U.S. stood for years as the only nations to EVER ban slavery in the history of the world.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 19, 2010 02:26 AM (puYmU)
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