March 22, 2010
— DrewM John Adams wept.
A suspected al Qaeda organizer once called "the highest value detainee" at Guantánamo Bay was ordered released by a federal judge in an order issued Monday.Mohamedou Ould Slahi was accused in the 9/11 Commission report of helping recruit Mohammed Atta and other members of the al Qaeda cell in Hamburg, Germany, that took part in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Military prosecutors suspected Mr. Slahi of links to other al Qaeda operations, and considered seeking the death penalty against him while preparing possible charges in 2003 and 2004.
U.S. District Judge James Robertson granted Mr. Slahi's petition for habeas corpus, effectively finding the government lacked legal grounds to hold him. The order was classified, although the court said it planned to release a redacted public version in the coming weeks.
Mr. Robertson held four days of closed hearings in the Slahi case last year. Mr. Slahi testified via secure video link from Guantánamo Bay, said his attorney.
"They were considering giving him the death penalty. Now they don't even have enough evidence to pass the test for habeas," said the attorney, Nancy Hollander, of Albuquerque, N.M.
Why don't they have evidence against him? Because they used some harsh techniques to get him talk. See they weren't trying to build a criminal case against him, they were trying to get information about future attacks.
This is the choice the lawfare model forces us to make...prevent attacks or build criminal cases. Doing both is almost impossible.
Remember when Obama, Holder and Gibbs assured us that there was no possibility that KSM wouldn't be convicted? How's that promise looking right about now?
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Posted by: lorien1973 at March 22, 2010 01:04 PM (IhQuA)
Posted by: whiskey at March 22, 2010 01:05 PM (L03mw)
I have this image of Obama grinning evilly, rubbing his hands and saying "I love it when a plan comes together" and then laughing maniacally.
Is that wrong?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 22, 2010 01:05 PM (RZ8pf)
Thanks, BJ!
Posted by: s'moron at March 22, 2010 01:05 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: james23 at March 22, 2010 01:07 PM (jat5l)
Found that a freak dressing up in women's clothing with beard stubble has to be given a job by the library of congress.
Rock the Fuck ON, you crazy diamond!
Posted by: s'moron at March 22, 2010 01:08 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Bitsko at March 22, 2010 01:09 PM (8/KZN)
Posted by: Barry! at March 22, 2010 01:09 PM (fGMGp)
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 22, 2010 01:10 PM (ucq49)
Is that wrong?
I'm not sure he's actually clever enough to have planned it. More like that's what Ayres is doing.
Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at March 22, 2010 01:11 PM (pkldN)
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 01:11 PM (PtdKQ)
Posted by: mongo78 at March 22, 2010 01:12 PM (2b46R)
the freakbob in question:
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people /conway/TS/Employment/schroer.gif
remove space after "/people"
and yes, he could kick my ass, but at least I ain't in a dress.
Posted by: s'moron at March 22, 2010 01:12 PM (UaxA0)
And in the interest of fairness, he should be heavily armed and released in the middle of a meeting of the entire Democrat Congressional membership....
Posted by: IN 8th resident at March 22, 2010 01:12 PM (tcMQZ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 22, 2010 01:12 PM (mR7mk)
And to think. At one time. Leading up to the 2008 elections. The majority of the American public thought, America's security was best in DemonCrap hands.
My. My. Nov results just might be unexpected. If not, unprecedented.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 22, 2010 01:13 PM (ucq49)
sleep with jihad dawgs, wake up with european fleas
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Posted by: Skye at March 22, 2010 01:14 PM (B/7Jn)
They can check his passport and habeus petition if they can find 'em in the gooey mess afterward.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 22, 2010 01:14 PM (u+gbs)
Posted by: CDR M at March 22, 2010 01:14 PM (cvmTR)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 22, 2010 01:15 PM (xxgag)
Posted by: Penfold at March 22, 2010 01:15 PM (1PeEC)
Posted by: Constitution for beginners. at March 22, 2010 01:15 PM (6p3E9)
Posted by: nickless at March 22, 2010 01:17 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: apotheosis at March 22, 2010 01:17 PM (xWk3U)
Why later than?
Posted by: Christoph at March 22, 2010 01:17 PM (0fq7b)
The guy probably hasnt been layed in a very long time. Just put a target designator on the first goat he comes across after getting off the plane.
Posted by: Blazer at March 22, 2010 01:18 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Mal at March 22, 2010 01:18 PM (Z+qzA)
Posted by: runningrn at March 22, 2010 01:19 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: shibumi at March 22, 2010 05:00 PM (OKZrE)
Depends. Did you invest in the companies that will be affected by the Health Care Debacle, or the ones that won't be affected?
Posted by: FUBAR at March 22, 2010 01:19 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: evil libertarian at March 22, 2010 01:20 PM (BGJM2)
"Embattled community group ACORN says national organization is disbanding"
Scheeyeah, right...we believe ya!
Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2010 01:23 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: nickless at March 22, 2010 01:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: MIKE191 at March 22, 2010 01:24 PM (I8zxS)
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 01:25 PM (PtdKQ)
Posted by: Justin Camp at March 22, 2010 01:25 PM (nF4Jh)
Posted by: sharrukin at March 22, 2010 01:26 PM (593B8)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 22, 2010 01:27 PM (a9UO0)
Mohamedou Ould Slahi was accused in the 9/11 Commission report of helping recruit Mohammed Atta and other members of the al Qaeda cell in Hamburg, Germany, that took part in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
I just heard 3,000 voices crying out.Posted by: Ben Kenobi at March 22, 2010 01:27 PM (fDWFP)
Posted by: SlaveDog at March 22, 2010 01:28 PM (H6Jyg)
Just got this Fox News Alert...
"Embattled community group ACORN says national organization is disbanding"
Scheeyeah, right...we believe ya!
Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2010 05:23 PM (VuLos)
Disbanding meaning they'll just break off into tiny little splinter groups and go by other names. I saw on another blog yesterday that Obama signed an EO restoring all funding to ACORN when all the press was concentrated on the healthcare debacle, not that they would have reported on it anyway.
Wish I could remember where I saw it.
Posted by: Blazer at March 22, 2010 01:29 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 01:29 PM (PtdKQ)
DellD, I have to say this, since no one else probably will (and because i would have laughed at you had it failed):
You. Were. Right.
Posted by: s'moron at March 22, 2010 01:33 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: antisocialist at March 22, 2010 01:33 PM (Rwudm)
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 01:35 PM (PtdKQ)
More like a homicide pact. When the Left is in power.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 22, 2010 01:36 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Picric at March 22, 2010 01:37 PM (xJEYd)
Acorn will now be called- COI, Community of International (thugs) or something equally in Conflict Of Interest in anything resembling justness and equality.
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 05:29 PM (PtdKQ)
Community Organizers R Us
Posted by: Blazer at March 22, 2010 01:37 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Vic at March 22, 2010 01:38 PM (QrA9E)
In the same buildings, with the same staff and computers.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 22, 2010 01:38 PM (mR7mk)
This, just after I watched the replay of "Inside 9/11" last night on tv. I'm about to go irresponsibly insane.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at March 22, 2010 01:38 PM (WgqyD)
I feel like I'm recovering from some gawd-awful auto accident or something. Tired, achy, angry, sad.
I'm going to do whatever it takes to help our pal win against John Barrow, even though Barrow voted no. And dammit, I missed another robo call from Jack Kingston to do a telephone townhall. Twice in two days.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 01:39 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Andy Rand at March 22, 2010 01:39 PM (mhD2v)
Terrorists Freed!
(like we're surprised at how this would end up with Holder's and Lefty's thinking .)
Those are poor terrorists, sad souls that just had to do something about how sad everyone around them made them Feel.
Yet ! x military, pro life , people angry about taxes are Really the terrorists!.
Posted by: willow at March 22, 2010 01:39 PM (PtdKQ)
Without a location outside the United States for sending prisoners, the administration must resort to turning the suspects over to foreign governments, bringing them to the U.S. or even killing them.
In one case last year, U.S. special operations forces killed an Al Qaeda-linked suspect named Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan in a helicopter attack in southern Somalia rather than trying to capture him, a U.S. official said. Officials had debated trying to take him alive but decided against doing so in part because of uncertainty over where to hold him, the official added.
Posted by: Neo at March 22, 2010 01:39 PM (tE8FB)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 22, 2010 01:40 PM (mR7mk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 01:43 PM (UOM48)
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of Wisconsin Democrats, state and national, who better hope they haven't trashed the state too bad for me to find a job, because otherwise I will have nothing better to do with my days than make sure they don't get elected/re-elected.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 22, 2010 01:43 PM (mR7mk)
Do we get to keep some hunky Marine guards??
Posted by: mpur at March 22, 2010 01:44 PM (tr6Dy)
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at March 22, 2010 01:44 PM (j6H6o)
Of course! Plus, a few Cuban pool boys. The moron guys will have to work something out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 01:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 22, 2010 01:46 PM (ympF8)
There should be a lot of those cases, IMO.
Why bother with the subterfuge of "while trying to escape"?
Geneva Convention.....unlawful combatant.....summary execution.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 22, 2010 01:49 PM (I/MqP)
Posted by: t-bird at March 22, 2010 01:51 PM (IHgZK)
The point: The RNC needs to start a similar project (hey, Mr. Steele, got time from your book tour to do this?) but, instead focus on State's Attorney Generals who are willing to actively prosecute voter fraud. There are state laws on the book to prevent voter fraud. Lets use the State AGs to make ACCORNs life a living hell.
A good idea, Mallamutt. Except the fact that the states that have the most voter fraud are the ones run by dems, like Illinois, California, etc.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at March 22, 2010 01:51 PM (WgqyD)
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 22, 2010 01:52 PM (XIXhw)
69 It will be really a short war, DC vs the other 50 states.
Nah, unfortunately some of the really bats**t crazy states won't fight on America's team. Illinois, represented so ably by Turbin Durbin and Roland Burris? You've gotta be kidding me.
Although there was one Chicago democrat, Dan Lipinski, who voted NO on ObamaCare. He should be commended.
Posted by: Boots at March 22, 2010 01:52 PM (06JTY)
Posted by: bowel movement at March 22, 2010 01:53 PM (Fd5yK)
Slightly off-topic: Got in the car a little while ago & turned on the Michael Medved show. Just in time to hear him introduce "My good friend, John McCain".
Almost put my fist through the radio.
Posted by: Boots at March 22, 2010 01:54 PM (06JTY)
Yes, Mr. Fox, you are free to go now, and stay away from the hen house forever.....Promise?
Posted by: John Adams at March 22, 2010 01:54 PM (2jp4I)
...to be replaced by Federated United Community Organizers For Fairness (FUCOFF).
Posted by: Bitsko at March 22, 2010 01:56 PM (8/KZN)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 22, 2010 01:57 PM (YmPwQ)
From the WSJ article:
Brig. Gen. John Furlow, who helped lead a Pentagon-ordered investigation into detainee abuse at Guantánamo Bay, has testified that Mr. Slahi was "the highest value detainee" at the offshore prison and "the key orchestrator of the al Qaeda cell in Europe."
Plans to try him by military commission were derailed after prosecutors learned that Mr. Slahi had been subjected to a "special interrogation plan" involving weeks of physical and mental torment, including a death threat and a threat to bring Mr. Slahi's mother to Guantánamo Bay where she could be gang-raped, officials said.
Well, I can see why they had to let him go. What with the "special interrogation plan" and all. Not to mention saying all those bad things about his mommy.
Posted by: SlaveDog at March 22, 2010 01:57 PM (H6Jyg)
"#83 Do we get to keep some hunky Marine guards?
Of course! Plus, a few Cuban pool boys. The moron guys will have to work something out."
Hey! You promised. At least once per day. You'd review "the island". wearing your boob belt.
Posted by: disappointed moron at March 22, 2010 01:58 PM (ucq49)
Thanks again Fiftytwo Percenters, you fucking fucks.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 22, 2010 02:00 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 02:01 PM (UOM48)
Plans to try him by military commission were derailed after prosecutors learned that Mr. Slahi had been subjected to a "special interrogation plan" involving weeks of physical and mental torment, including a death threat and a threat to bring Mr. Slahi's mother to Guantánamo Bay where she could be gang-raped, officials said.
And in other news: Gitmo command still dealing with mysterious outbreak of goat-born syphillus.
Posted by: Iamnotanalcoholic at March 22, 2010 02:02 PM (WgqyD)
A crew of good sergeants, left alone, would by now know everything, including what was served at his sixth birthday party, and he could be disposed of.
Posted by: SGT Dan at March 22, 2010 02:05 PM (L0IJJ)
"The USMC officer corps has a very wide streak of out of the closet lefties, ..."
Names and links please. I'd also like your counter-point, ie those in the other branches that are, oh so, pure. I'll dig these out if you aren't so inclined. Just provide me "all" those Marine links.
Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 22, 2010 02:11 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2010 02:14 PM (UOM48)
Ok, I'm in.
We can keep some Cuban mamacitas around for the moron guys. Plus, I've got no intention of cooking and cleaning.
Posted by: mpur at March 22, 2010 02:15 PM (tr6Dy)
Posted by: Crowsting at March 22, 2010 03:02 PM (61BD9)
Posted by: bob bob bob, bob babra ann at March 22, 2010 03:04 PM (7FgWm)
Then we can have a fair degree of confidence that he'll be kept on a fairly close leash.
Congressional aides are exempt from ObamaCare, and you can bet that Obama's kids and Barney Frank's boyfriends are going to be watched over a whole lot better than the rest of us.
Posted by: mrkwong at March 22, 2010 03:06 PM (G8Eo0)
So Mohamedou Ould Slahi may be guilty as hell of vaporizing thousands of Americans, but society is to blame.
I wait with baited breath for Eric Holder to tell us what a great victory for justice this is, that this proves the strength of our legal system. Perhaps you can go over to the Palm restaurant on Capitol Hill tonight and join Holder and his crew of Gitmo defense lawyers as they celebrate their successful infiltration and subversion of the justice system.
By any means necessary, eh?
Posted by: Tantor at March 22, 2010 03:19 PM (Ek/Oc)
Posted by: ed at March 22, 2010 03:24 PM (Kmlpr)
Remember when Holder said that if KSM was acquitted in a court of law, the Federal government would hold him anyway?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: stuiec at March 22, 2010 03:30 PM (7AOgy)
Posted by: sladenyv at March 22, 2010 03:32 PM (saiGq)
Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2010 03:41 PM (CPefM)
Posted by: sifty at March 22, 2010 03:43 PM (T0QSL)
@116 ed:
You know, Harry S. Dent claims that illegals are a plus to the economy. I think he's right if you look at Texas. In CA illegals are a loser, but that's due to the idiot CA govt, not the illegals themselves. If you don't give illegals free services for everything, they aren't a burden. The loungers go home, the hard workers stay. My reaction has always been to deport, control borders etc. I still believe in strong border control. But I'm starting to believe that properly controlled immigration and guest worker programs can be useful. Many of these people are hard workers and assimilate better than, um, some others.
Posted by: bob bob bob, bob babra ann at March 22, 2010 03:46 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: bob bob bob, bob babra ann at March 22, 2010 03:48 PM (7FgWm)
Posted by: That Boxing Announcer Guy at March 22, 2010 03:56 PM (kmEfr)
@16: "Another nail in the coffin."
Dude, the coffin is nothing but nails. Every treasonous act, every corrupt act, every shady association, every bit of economic sabotage, etc. should have brought down The Messiah and his followers. None have, none will.
Posted by: That Boxing Announcer Guy at March 22, 2010 03:59 PM (kmEfr)
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/also, does this mean my defense stocks will do well?
Posted by: shibumi at March 22, 2010 01:00 PM (OKZrE)