1

I have a garden, can i get my 50,000

2 My wife grows cucumbers for....personal consumprion.  some of them are darker than others.   can i apply....?

3 Did I mention that I'm black?  I was born black and have been black my whole life!
I also have a garden too.


Ok fine...

It's a fucking Chia Pet.


BITCH, WHERE'S MY MONEY?!?!?!?!

4

i'm blackish.sorta like the finger wagger, without the corrruption.

and i have a tomato plant!

 

5

In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for seed.

Squeal like a pig, boy

6

In all seriousness. I am as black as Ben Jealous or Soledad O'Brien, my skin is literally darker than theirs.

7 I once considered working.....at Madison Square GARDEN.  Can I has my money?

8 I once considered working.....at Madison Square GARDEN.  Can I has my money?

You sure can, Chosen One!  You so awesome, Lebron!  Look mommy -- I'm a serious sports journalist!

And so forth.

9 That Jeffrey Lord article is dumb, dumb, dumb. Is he claiming that people ONLY use the word "lynch" to mean hanging? Sure, that's it's most well known meaning, but people use the term for, like, any kind of racial murder. For crying out loud. We do not need to lower ourselves to that level of desperation.

10 This post is racist.  Obviously ace wants all aspiring black farmers to be slaves again.

11 sory, that jeffrey lord article was linked in a different thread.

12 I was black until my dream of being a black farmer was stolen from me. That's how stolen it was.

13 Has anyone mentioned that the phrase "buy the farm" is a way of referring to sudden death - and thereby could be interpreted as a threat?

I'm sorry if I'm repeating anyone.

14 that works out to less than Michelle Bachman gets to not farm her farm. Also Ace better check your math on that one again i keep getting an average of 10 grand not 50. I graduated in the top 90% of my high school class and I can figure that out

15 The court clerk I tried to file my claim with was actin' all superior, you know, tryin' to show he was superior to me, the way they do, when you're claiming to be a black person.

16 Democrat Party Motto: FREE MONEY!!!

17 This is what happens when you try to get the power of the courts to enforce "justice".  Especially with our wholly corrupt legal system.

I'm also willing to hold out the possibility that the original settlement may have been unwarranted as well.

18

In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for seed.

Posted by: Ace at 02:20 PM

I'm on it!

19

Sex Farm Woman!

I'll be your hired hand!

20 Get it line fools.

21 Hey idiot? I don't need to do math when the government, a party to the settlement, has done the math and announced the math itself: "And now, as of February, the government has announced its plans to hand out at least $50,000 each to over 70,000 more claimants, over and above the original 16,000." Dope. You actin' superior?

22 OTOH, once every person so inclined (and if there were 100k already and more free money to follow, I suspect the takers won't all be black) to take free federal money for crushing their dreams of green thumbs, can we finally put the talk of reparations behind us?  I don't know if the few folks who push that ever put a dollar figure on what the slave's descendants were owed, but $50k seems like plenty to me.

23 I don't need to do math when the government, a party to the settlement, has done the math and announced the math itself:

I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE NO MATH!!!

24 You know, between the white folks, the Uncle Toms, the Aunt Tammies, the cousin Tims, the nephew Tads, the step-sister Taras, the Grandpa Todd's and all the rest of the people out to get the Sherrod family, they seem to be doing pretty well for not a lot of work.
Must be that good old-fashioned work ethic, right?

25

My understanding is that the Dept of Agriculture will pay you only if you let your fields go fallow.  Or if there's a drought.  Or flooding. 

26 In 1997, 400 African-American farmers sued the United States Department of Agriculture, alleging that they had been unfairly denied USDA loans due to racial discrimination during the period 1983 to 1997.

Blame  Sharrod.

27 The Democrat Party is nothing more than an organized crime syndicate raiding the US Treasury.

28 I graduated in the top 90% of my high school class
Posted by: denny crane at July 27, 2010 02:36 PM (I+7Zv)

What an achievement!  All but 10% of your high school class managed it.

But hey, math is racist.

29 "Sure, that's it's most well known meaning, but people use the term for, like, any kind of racial murder.

For crying out loud. We do not need to lower ourselves to that level of desperation.
Posted by: ace"

Lynching is the illegitimate killing (usually by hanging, frequently accompanied by mutilation and/or burning) by a mob of a person or persons.

It was done to a lot of people over the years. Italians in Mississippi were singled out as often as Blacks in the 1890's, 1900's, and 1910's.

30 My soul is as black as coal.  Does that count?

31 My guilt - it is assuaged!

-

32

The Pigfords and their ilk would tinkle in their pants if they saw this.  I'd love to be in a room where this was screened to all members of the Black Congressional Caucus.

http://bit.ly/cQdgmk

33 Before I went into mining in the Cloud City and joined the Rebel Alliance, I once considered buying a sorghum farm in Iowa.  Do I qualify?

34

reparation by any other name,

it's all the same

35 Just give all descendants their share of the current value of the "40 acres and a mule" that were promised to former slaves after the Civil War and never provided (while, of course, the white farmers got all they wanted in the land grants).

36 Some of my best friends are black people who considered becoming farmers.

37 #23 " can we finally put the talk of reparations behind us? " Nope. Germanic people were once enslaved by Romans, so I want my reparations from Italy. Mucho lira.

38

"In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for seed."

SEEDIST!

39

Before I hit Tina with that toaster I was thinking what it would be like to make my own Eggo. 

You, know.  Grow some Grains and Mill'em.  Milk a cow and raise some chickens for they eggs. 

I'd have a big spread with some Maple Trees along the driveway and I'd tap those trees like I tapped Tina's ass.  

Then I burnt my Eggo and Tina started runnin' off at the mouth...

Where do I piuck up my check? 

40 Here and pajama's is the only place I've seen this story so far.  Though if we're honest with ourselves this whole thing is probably a way to get Tax's into Democrats pockets via "Farmers".  I wonder how many of these applicants even know what the lawsuit was about and just ended up filling out a form they were told to.

41

41 - Hell in that case, since Italy was everybody's bitch at one point, I'm going to need reparations from half the continent of Europe.

(But not in Euros, please.)

42 the "40 acres and a mule" that were promised

By whom, exactly?  Read up on that "promise".  Besides, how many people in the US can trace their wealth or prosperity to a bit of land owned by a descendant 7 generations ago?  If you want to go through the metaphysical justice game, you also have to dissipate this "benefit" throughout the later descendants.  What's left over wouldn't get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.  Well, maybe a "tall" house blend.

the white farmers got all they wanted in the land grants

Wha?

43 I Posted links on this yesterday. There are actually two cases on this BS. We have another 1.24B case waiting on Congress to appropriate the money for the "agreed settlement".

That will be 2 billion dollar cases all settled by "agreements" without going to court.

44 It's this kind of racist shit thats gonna sink the garbage scow that passes as the ship of state in the Zero administration.

45
I heard the Beat Farmers one time...while I was walking by some hippie's open window. Where's my moneys?

46 does an ant farm count?

47

It's like Atlas Shrugged made into a movie.

48

_{Posted by: Future Farmer of Snark at July 27, 2010 03:03 PM (Oxen1)}

Now that you mention it, I saw the 'Art Farmer Quintet' once. 

49 My grandmother was black irish and I have potted plants in my office.  Show me the $$$$$$$$.

50 I have a dark-colored birthmark and I once walked in a corn field.  Gimme my money!!!!!!

51

I took a botanical illustration course once, and drew a lovely sketch of snow peas with an oak leaf lettuce background.

Where do I pick up the check?

52 A bus accident involving a Septa Bus being ridden by 20 people in the 80's would get claims from 100's of riders every time.  People wouldn't even bother to jump on the bus afterward.  No effort was even necessary to make a claim.  Show me the money, indeed.

53
You can't do no farming without ho's. Cut my check.

54 My prehistoric black ancestry should qualify my need for a check covering that must-have trendy shirt in the window.

55 Interestingly, I'm looking at buying a different farm, and the USDA is handing out 1% loans.  Business has been so shitty that I might meet the damn income requirements if I fuck it up just right.

Do you think a white farmer can get a fair shake from the USDA?

56

I considered becoming black but I didn't out of fear that The man (me) would keep me down. I didn't even get a chance to consider being a black farmer.

Where's my money?

57 Do you think a white farmer can get a fair shake from the USDA?

Not when I'm in charge, you cracka!

58 10 That Jeffrey Lord article is dumb, dumb, dumb.

Is he claiming that people ONLY use the word "lynch" to mean hanging?

Sure, that's it's most well known meaning, but people use the term for, like, any kind of racial murder.

For crying out loud. We do not need to lower ourselves to that level of desperation.

Go play in the street so I run you ovah!

59

"by rumors the USDA would deny them loans later should they get into financial difficulty."

 

Is it me? but why is the USDA giving out loans?  Aren't there more efficient means of finance than like you know the govmn't?  Like you know banks?

 

 

60

what if you'r ehalf black? do you get half the money?

 what if you're half blck but are white raised and have no slave blood?

61 Do you think a white farmer can get a fair shake from the USDA?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 27, 2010 03:14 PM (5aa4z)

No not now that Shirley resigned, she was the only one who gave white farmers any help. She was a fucking saint to white farmers.

62 I took Black Studies to be black. Doe that count?

63 I wonder if the average American realizes along with us political junkies that the more 'minorities' get high positions in government, the louder they are with the calls of racism?

I thought Obawbag was supposed to be the 'post racial President'?  Seems to me to be quite the opposite.  This admin could find racism in a ham sandwich, and lately they have been making Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton look like amateurs.  Of course WE all knew this was coming when B-lack Obama was on the campaig trail making sure everyone knew he was black.. sort of.

I think  the next democrat that cries racism should qualify for a free face stomping.

64 RushBabe, thanks for the link.  That video was amazing.  I sent it to Jacob Turk, running against Emamuel Cleaver.  He goes into the black communities alot and has told me that many of the blacks he has visited have been threatened because they dared to listen to a conservative!  I also posted on my FB.

65 No not now that Shirley resigned, she was the only one who gave white farmers any help. She was a fucking saint to white farmers.

That's discouraging.

Any body know a good lawyer?

66 Any body know a good lawyer?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 27, 2010 03:19 PM (5aa4z)

Yeah a white one, want the number?

67 Oh welcome to the decade of "Social Justice.."

Strap in

No, Assange, I said strap IN. 

cripes

68 This thread can be introduced as evidence, right?

69 this is bullshit! they need to stop this money ASAP!

70 Any body know a good lawyer?

What do you mean by good?  Depending on your definition, you may not ever find one.

71 This story makes me really enthusiastic about paying my taxes. 

Maybe I can pay extra, so the government can fund its out-of-court settlement payments for not-farming, without having to scrimp and save. 

72 Oh its spelled P-I-G-F-O-R-D, I always heard it was spelled R-E-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N-S. My mistake. Between this and the whole Sherrod deal, does this mean that the Ag Dept. is now more social justice than the Justice Dept. and Education?

73 15 that works out to less than Michelle Bachman gets to not farm her farm. Also Ace better check your math on that one again i keep getting an average of 10 grand not 50. I graduated in the top 90% of my high school class and I can figure that out Bad news is he was homeschooled and an only child....

74

If I want to say that I consider myself Black, who's to argue?

Where is my government check!?

75 RushBabe, thanks for the link.  That video was amazing.  I sent it to Jacob Turk, running against Emamuel Cleaver.  He goes into the black communities alot and has told me that many of the blacks he has visited have been threatened because they dared to listen to a conservative!  I also posted on my FB.

Posted by: jewells at July 27, 2010 03:18 PM (l/N7H)

Thanks for the feedback, jewells.  I need to track down Baldilocks and The Black Conservative blogs to be sure they have it.  It made the hair on my neck stand up!

76 I was born a poor, Black child and all I wanted was an ashtray, a paddle game, a remote control, a lamp, matches, a chair... and a farm. And that's all I wanted.

77 I was born a poor black child.

78 Gaaaah!  Damn you, my Navin clone, and your fast fingers, too!

79

Thanks for the feedback, jewells.  I need to track down Baldilocks and The Black Conservative blogs to be sure they have it.  It made the hair on my neck stand up!

You're welcome.  I just watched it again!

80

If I want to say that I consider myself Black, who's to argue?

Only the most flagrant unrepentant racist who wears sheets would.

81 The third definition of reparations seems fitting: 3 : the payment of damages : indemnification; specifically : compensation in money or materials payable by a defeated nation for damages to or expenditures sustained by another nation as a result of hostilities with the defeated nation —usually used in plural We are no longer one nation, rather we are many nations divided upon racial lines and the white nation has been defeated. Now it's time for the white nation to pay the piper. I hate what the left has done to this country.

82

If I want to say that I consider myself Black, who's to argue?

Where is my government check!?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 27, 2010 03:31 PM (oIp16)

Exactly.  Considering the fact that kids (friggin' KIDS) are being allowed to choose which gender they are, and given rights to invade the privacy of others based on the twisted individuals' own claims of gender, I don't see why picking race should be any different.  You can have a black person trapped inside a white body as easily as a woman trapped inside a man (or whatever idiotic story they use these days).

83 86

If I want to say that I consider myself Black, who's to argue?

Only the most flagrant unrepentant racist who wears sheets would.

Posted by: kallisto at July 27, 2010 03:36 PM (+FkcS)

Egggzactly!

(Screaming in my best Braveheart voice): REPERATIONS!

 

84 I once drove past a farm.  With a black person.

85 Dear Government,

I wanted to be a porn star back in the day but I was denied an opportunity because of racism and an average size penis but mostly the racism.  Somebody owes me a lot of pussy.

86 I'm shocked that kicking over this rotten log over has resulted in a hoard of bugs scurrying to and fro to avoid the sunlight.

Shocked.

Hey, let's apologize to this woman. That sounds like a good plan.

87 Back in 1995, after the Republican's had won the House and Russia was imploding I wrote to Newt that the US should buy Siberia for a $trillion. I also suggested we give all the squeaky wheels, (the Million Man March was happening sometime around then), 40 acres in Siberia and some snow shoes. .....He never got back to me on that though. 

88 LOL, one article that I read about the first case after congress had voted more money and reopened the filing dates talked about how ridiculous cases were that got through the system,

Some people collected based on filing for a small family cemetery plot that they had had in their possession for decades and had desired to "farm". They collected their guaranteed 50Kand laughed all the way to the bank.

This probably the real reason they wanted her off the stage and out of the public so quick. 

89 Reparations: The payment of restitution for a crime to someone who did not experience it, from someone who did not commit it.

Now that I think about it, that's just a variant of the usual government redistributionist urge.

90 Oh, and I'm going to say something I was too cowardly to say last week: I suspect that Shirley Sherrod's father was not killed by white racists who were let off the hook by other white racists.

I think she made it up to give more teeth to her race baiting.

Why? Because Marxists and professional grievance mongers lie shamelessly to further their cause and/or enrich themselves.

She happens to be both.

91 I wanted to be a porn star back in the day but I was denied an opportunity because of racism and an average size penis but mostly the racism.  Somebody owes me a lot of pussy.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 27, 2010 03:48 PM (IqfKc)

You could start an absolute revolution in grievance-mongering.

Jib, newsletter.

92 I loves me some poik.  Does that count?

93 It's tempting to attempt to file a claim for this crap.  Economy is going to hell anyway, so I might as well get a new car from the taxpayers, I guess.

I'm not black, but can they check?  Isn't that racial discrimination, prohibited by USDA regulation, to even check my race?

94

The Pigfords and their ilk would tinkle in their pants if they saw this.  I'd love to be in a room where this was screened to all members of the Black Congressional Caucus.

http://bit.ly/cQdgmk

That video is EXCELLENT!  Everyone should watch it.

95 91 - if this thread gets spammed by penis enlargement ads, I blame you.

96 Where is my black hoe?

97

Reparations, bitchez! 

Pay up, suckas.

98

 You can have a black person trapped inside a white body as easily as a woman trapped inside a man (or whatever idiotic story they use these days).

Remember that skit on MAD TV - "That's My Black Momma"?

Well that became my mother's nickname. An AA contractor who worked on her house was convinced she was Black. So who the heck is gonna argue?

(She's dead or I would get her to apply for these reparations. And she really did grow up on a farm.)

99 I may have white skin, but I've known I was black since I was 2yrs old.

I think my parents suspected. Certainly my father did, which is why he was always pushing me to do things like eat hummus on pita bread and pretend I like Jazz, like other white people do.

He also made me watch the Winter Olympics a lot. It wasn't until later that I figured out why.

When I was 14, I finally found the courage to tell them. They both cried a little, but understood when I told them that my inner blackness was not a choice.

My mom felt better when I told her I was more Hootie and the Blowfish black than 50 cent black. 

Anyway, that's my story. Now gimme.

100

@10: "Is he claiming that people ONLY use the word "lynch" to mean hanging?

Sure, that's it's most well known meaning, but people use the term for, like, any kind of racial murder."

So I'm a racial murderess? Damn, what else can happen to me?  FML.

101 Somebody help me. I'm being held captive and can't get on any of my TV shows. My 15 minutes will be up by the time these bitches let me out.

102 I was born white into a black family.

103

In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for seed.

Sherrod said  in paychecks i guess,

 I will never go back to the farm.

guess farmin in bad, unless the gvt, pays ya to say you're one.

104 I considered being black once, and taking up farming.  That should be worth a cool hundred grand right there.

105

i wish i had enough money tpo actually own a farm to feed my family and those i know, personally

i wonder how much land to feed 30 people and buy blankets  and shoes and scented candles yearly?

is it more than 6,000 acres?

106 is it more than 6,000 acres?


I was wondering about that.

6000 acres is not a farm.  It's a freekin county.
I wish I had 6 acres, let alone 6000.  Think about this, 6000 acres is almost 10 square miles.

107 Has anyone seen Shirley Sherrod?  I think she has gone missing.

108 I did a quick search. Looks like Carver was probably not gay. One of those situations where the gays and lesbians claim someone as gay to make themselves look better.

109

#35

WHY isn't this excellent video being posted beyond the comments???

Runaway Slave

110 118 I did a quick search. Looks like Carver was probably not gay. One of those situations where the gays and lesbians claim someone as gay to make themselves look better.

Posted by: kansas at July 27, 2010 04:31 PM (mka2b)

No way!

111 Reparations do not go far enough

112

And this, my friends, is why the Sherrod story HAS to be all about Fox, or else there will be time to report that Saint Sherrie has gotten 13 million richer the old fashioned way - by crying racism.

And if you call your congressman to stop this crazy cash, you will be a  RACIST (of course)

113 Let me out! 

114

 MAD TV -

That's My White Mama

I had the title wrong

115

@70: "Any body know a good lawyer?"

According to our esteemed colleague, AmishDude, there are no good lawyers, other than perhaps dead ones.  Guess you're on your own.

116
Farmer Velvet Jones School of Technology

117 Oh sure, after I get ripped off by those crackahs, Willam "Skippy" Johnson and Charles "Jiff" Smith for my peanut spread recipe, ya'll come along and just start handin' out cash to every Tom, Dick, and Harry

118 Thanks for covering this Ace. This is why she is mia from tv suddenly. This makes me sick, I am over it!!

119

Jackstraw heck i own about 1/5 of an acre and am not allowed to even have a chicken on it to feed my family, and never thought i was poor..

i thought hell one day maybe if i work and save enough i can own an acre somewhere that i'm allowed a chicken and a cow, and plant a garden  for any possible  future catastrophe.

of course a lower class middle americn of any color will likely never get there now , with all the states taxes, laws , regulations and zoning

120

 "Speaking of black agriculture, did anyone else know that George Washington Carver was a gay icon?  I did not know that until recently. "

 

Did he find a new place to store peanuts ?

121

i would add, those that are farmers might like the idea of city life, and visa versa for us raised in cities.

we all  have a dream of what freedom is, for some it might be on someone elses dime.

122

Ace:

"In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for to seed.

Fifty

123

I saw Robert Byrd (Dead, W.Va.) on tv once talking about White N-words. And I know the words to "Farmer in the Dell". Where do I sign up?

Plus I've listened to Lou Reed's "I Wanna be Black" on numerous occasions.

124 I decided not to be black at all after I heard about those racist USDA loans. Pay me double.

125 I knew I should've stuck with not using suntan lotion.

126

@13

thread-winner!!

127 My garden is currently under assault by irredeemably racist weeds and I usually lose when I play Black in chess. Can I has my $50K now?

128 "In related news, I'm black, and I have always felt a need for seed." And how are YOU doing?!

129

@15

I graduated in the top 90% ...

Hey dipshit,  that doesn't mean what you think it means:  What you claimed was that 90% of your graduating high school class had a grade as high or higher than yours.  Put me in the category of being unimpressed.

I think you were trying to brag that only 10% of your graduating class had a grade as high as yours.  I'm still unimpressed.

I'm 49 and seen shit that would leave you curled up in a ball puking in your mom's basement.  I really am uninterested in the ignorant utterings of a child.

130 I graduated in the top 90% ... As opposed to the bottom 10 percent? Great going, champ!

131 Sounds like "reparations" to me.

Can I has some money, I once thought about being black.

132

I'm sure that I'm going to get some flack for this one, but here goes anyway:

With as-of-yet-undetermined ulterior motives, and with his incendiary articles about black people lately, Ace is, in effect, handing out boxes of matches and gallons of gasoline to  people whom he considers to be potentially, would be arsonists, and then he has hissy fits and he bans people whom he considers to be arsonists without any real evidence that they are arsonists. That is bizarre.

Hey Ace, if you had ever played any sports with black guys and/or if you had ever served in the military with any black guys, you would realize that there are a lot of good, decent black people in this country who aren't any different than good, decent white people are.

So why don't you give it a rest, or focus on the contributions of the good, decent black people in this country, instead of always finding fault with black people? It gets tedious, monotonous and boring after a while. 

BTW, have you noticed that there are some black Republicans running for Congress? How about some articles focusing on their backgrounds and on their positions on issues and on their viability as candidates?

133 you would realize that there are a lot of good, decent black people in this country who aren't any different than good, decent white people are.

Didn't see ace or anyone else say there weren't...

So it's OK for the Sherrods, Sharptons, Farrakhans, and Jesse Jacksons of the world to bilk taxpayers (which include those good, decent black people) out of billions of dollars through fraud and fomenting race-based hate, lest good, decent people...what, get their feelings hurt?

134 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that this is really a clever way to graft out cash without going through Congress?  Gin up a lawsuit, settle out of court and stick Congress with the bill.

or that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?

135 >>How, exactly, did a settlement originally thought to benefit a couple of thousand black farmers swell into a general $50,000-a-head handout to nearing a 100,000 people, most of whom weren't even farmers?

Two Words: Wealth Redistribution.

136 We're doomed...DOOMED I TELL YOU!!!

137

143  So...we shouldn't talk about this (and be angry about it), because it might harm good, decent Black people?  Along similar lines then we shouldn't talk about La Raza or illegal immgrants from south of the border because it would smear the good, decent Hispanic/Latinos -- of whom I know many -- and we shouldn't bring up old Sheets Byrd's favortie group of peeps because that would smear the good, decent white folks, right?

Yeah, talking about this could conceivably inflame people -- but I think I'd rather have somebody like Ace mentioning this, and having it discussed by the people here, than have the nut jobs at a place like Stormfront going on about this.

Yeah, I'll admit to a twinge of racist bigotry popping its ugly little snout up in my head when I read about this: I know some farmers that were denied loans and grants, and I can't help thinking that if this shit weren't going on, they might have gotten some help, or maybe if they were Black they would have had some recourse.  As some of these people were good and decent, it makes me mad.  HOWEVER, I didn't let that little twinge of bigotry take over -- because I do know that a lot of Black people are not like this, and that these fucking hustlers are just as bad for Black people as they are for anyone else (kinda like the scumbags in any group make it difficult for everybody, but especially the group they get identified with).  And I know, that as an American, it's time for me to think of my fellow Americans -- whatever their color -- and try and get these scumbags out of power once and for all, for the good of everybody -- and that project must needs be colorblind.

So no, we need to know about it; we need to be angry (but not stupid) and we need to stop this horseshit -- because it will wreck our country if it keeps up (which fear of addressing it for fear of scary, scary "racism" will most assuredly do).

138 "I'm sure that I'm going to get some flack for this one, but here goes anyway:"

Of course you're going to get flak. Your argument is poor.

"With as-of-yet-undetermined ulterior motives, and with his incendiary articles about black people lately, Ace is, in effect, handing out boxes of matches and gallons of gasoline to  people whom he considers to be potentially, would be arsonists, and then he has hissy fits and he bans people whom he considers to be arsonists without any real evidence that they are arsonists. ..."

Do you have any real evidence  of your claim(s)?  Links and comment numbers will do.


"... That is bizarre."

Heh.


"Hey Ace, if you had ever played any sports with black guys and/or if you had ever served in the military with any black guys, you would realize that there are a lot of good, decent black people in this country who aren't any different than good, decent white people are."

At least one.  Actually many.  But then there's also LeBron James, and Michael Vick, and ..... having scoured several golf courses, OJ is now searching inside a particular correctional facility ...... are you sure you want to use athletes as examples? Defend their character if you wish, and good luck.

But you evade the issue. The issue of this thread is Pigfors and closely-related issues.  If you can;t stand the discussion, why are you here?


"So why don't you give it a rest, or focus on the contributions of the good, decent black people in this country, instead of always finding fault with black people? It gets tedious, monotonous and boring after a while."

Are you truly unaware of the JournoList Fiasco, essentially a nationwide conspiracy of sorts to suppress / manipulate / mold the news by many members of the MSM, currently being publicized here and elsewhere?  If not for Ace and other bloggers, many events of national interest, like the Pigford payouts (apparently to more farmers than ecisted in the affected area) and Shirley Sherrod.


"BTW, have you noticed that there are some black Republicans running for Congress? How about some articles focusing on their backgrounds and on their positions on issues and on their viability as candidates?"

Do you truly not see that ignoring the Pigford, the Sherrods, the NBPPs, the Al Sharptons / Jesse Jacksons / J. Wrights / and similar poverty pimips / race- hustlers / parasites of the US political and cultural landscapes, you allow them to to be lumped in with the "good, decent black people in this country who aren't any different than good, decent white people are."

There's a difference, and it needs to be widely and highly publicized.  The MSM won't do it, and there's good evidence that they never will; they conspire, to at least some small degree, to suppress this reality.

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Perspectives is right.

ace should preface each Shirley Sherrod post by mentioning that he really liked that time that Aerosmith teamed up with Run DMC and remade Walk This Way.

 

140 Can I take care of the rabbits now, George? Huh? Can I?

141

Have I mentioned my black friend?

I have a black friend.

 

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"At least one.  Actually many.  But then there's also LeBron James, and Michael Vick, and ..... having scoured several golf courses, OJ is now searching inside a particular correctional facility ...... are you sure you want to use athletes as examples? Defend their character if you wish, and good luck." - Arbalest

All of your rebuttals were so lame that its difficult to assess which ones should be addressed. But I'll start with this one, and see where it leads, before I bother to address any of the others.

My point there was simple: When you find yourself in situations in which you have to rely on people to cover your back, and they have to rely on you to cover their backs, you develop a rapport with them that you won't develop with them in classrooms or in other environments, and you quickly find which of your teammates have character and which ones don't. That should suffice. Do you get my drift, or is this too heavy for you?

BTW, your examples of Michael Vick, O.J. Simpson, etc., were a stretch and they are irrelevant. (sigh)

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153  Which means you don't really have a rebuttal and are now doing the typical manuever of projection (and effete implication that yours is a superior and more sensitive mind) followed by ad hominem, correct?

 

aka. you are a troll -- that's always good to know

144  No comment, Jane.

145 I don't have time to read all of this, but lynching is usually defined as the non-sanctioned hanging of someone. I don't think I've ever heard of someone that was killed by any other means than a rope be seriously described as being lynched. I have some shirt tail relatives that were the last piles of dirt that were lynched in Iowa. It wasn't a good subject to bring up in front of my great grandma. She knew them and knew they had it coming to them.

146 153  Perspectives:

"All of your rebuttals were so lame that its difficult to assess which ones should be addressed. But I'll start with this one, and see where it leads, before I bother to address any of the others."

In other words, you see that your original arguments failed, and you have no links or evidence.  Are you, by any chance, a journalist?

You evade my JournoList point, and for good reason. JournoList flushes any credibility the MSM, journalists and the Left have,as regards truth, transparency, fairness, accuracy, .....  perhaps this is too heavy for you.


"My point there was simple: When you find yourself in situations in which you have to rely on people to cover your back, and they have to rely on you to cover their backs, you develop a rapport with them that you won't develop with them in classrooms or in other environments, and you quickly find which of your teammates have character and which ones don't."

First, if this was indeed your original point, you should have posted it.  But it isn't what you posted.

Second, it seems that you don't see my point about LeBron James and Michael Vick: two athletes who are really in the game only for themselves.  

Perhaps I was too oblique, but how? LeBron's raging ego has been the butt of many very recent and very public jokes (probably some here at Ace, if you bothered to do any research); an entire city has removed his ego from one of their buildings.  Could it be that they realize that L. bailed on them?

Please feel free to defend Vick's character, specifically his dogfighting sideline; it's not like he needed the money.  And given this hobby of his, would you trust him?  If so, why?


"BTW, your examples of Michael Vick, O.J. Simpson, etc., were a stretch and they are irrelevant. (sigh)"

It looks like these examples are directly on target, and you're trying to evade ......


"That should suffice. Do you get my drift, or is this too heavy for you?"

Heh. Double heh.

147 I wish I owned a Cadillac dealership right about now.

148 Most people don't even know what a farmer really does - they think it is easy. I bet these people getting the money would not farm if a farm was given to them. It just keeps getting worse every single day.

149 Hmmmm.

Don't know about the rest of your Crackers but I'm feeling mighty black all of a sudden.....

150 Hmmmm.

@ Perspectives

"With as-of-yet-undetermined ulterior motives, and with his incendiary articles about black people lately, Ace is, in effect, handing out boxes of matches and gallons of gasoline to  people whom he considers to be potentially, would be arsonists, and then he has hissy fits and he bans people whom he considers to be arsonists without any real evidence that they are arsonists. That is bizarre."

You're a bit of an idiot aren't you?

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Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2010 07:37 PM (gma26)

 

 

For a few moments there,  I was mildly fascinated by the bizarre way that you rationalize in a futile attempt to give legitimacy to your irrational, lame and specious arguments. 

But I broke my own rule there. I usually don't argue with fools or with loonies.

You're so irrational and delusional that there isn't any point in pursuing a discussion with you. I'm not qualified to be your psychiatrist, nor would I want to be.

Now, y'all have a nice evening, ya hear.

152 Does anyone else feel a day of reckoning coming sooner rather than later.,

153 "164

Posted by: Arbalest at July 27, 2010 07:37 PM (gma26)

For a few moments there,  I was ......
[3 more sentences of ad-hominems by Perspectives]

Posted by: Perspectives at July 27, 2010 09:44 PM (sYrWB)"


It took you over 2 hours to write ....... this?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH ........... HAHAHAHAHAHAH

154 I have thought about farming but did not want to get beat up by the Mexicans I was NOT going to hire to work the fields.... SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!

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