March 19, 2010

Lindsey Graham Alert! He's Getting Close To A Deal To Close Gitmo
— DrewM

First immigration, then Cap and Tax and now this. I guess with McCain in "Pretend to be a Real Conservative Mode" all the heavy lifting of selling out Republicans is falling to Graham.

Sadly, he seems more than up to the task.

The deal would put the alleged mastermind of the attacks of September 2001, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, his fellow plotters and other top terror suspects before revamped military commissions, rather than in civilian trials as the Obama administration had sought. These courts would offer defendants more rights than they had under the Bush administration, but fewer than they would be afforded in civilian court.

The effort, led by White House counsel Robert Bauer and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, further sidelines Attorney General Eric Holder, who at a hearing Tuesday continued to argue that the planners of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and other terrorists should be given civilian federal trials.

Any such deal would represent the final repudiation of Mr. Holder's November decision to bring the 9/11 plotters to civilian trial in New York City, and a switch for the White House, which suspended the Bush-era military commissions as one of its first acts in office. The White House and the Justice Department appear to be at loggerheads on the matter, and Justice Department officials say they are not a party to the negotiations

The framework of the deal is being led in Congress by Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Mr. Graham wants civilian courts to be reserved for low-level Al Qaeda operatives and terrorist financiers, a far smaller group than previously considered.

Forty-eight Guantanamo prisoners—men who cannot be convicted in court but deemed too dangerous for release—would face indefinite detention without trial. Democrats are willing to expand the number of detainees brought before military commissions, but want more discretion than in Mr. Graham's proposal.

This is among the most idiotic 'deals' in history. Memo to Lindsey...KSM and the others aren't going to be tried in civilian court no matter what. It's far to unpopular among, well just about everyone. The reason the White House took this away from Holder is precisely because his plans were politically untenable. They were going to have to back off it anyway.

As for this the idea that you can hold people on US soil indefinitely without trial is, let me think of a technical term here. Ah yes...bat shit crazy. One of the reasons Gitmo was created was that under existing law and Supreme Court precedent (Eisentrager) people held outside the territory of the United States during the course of a war were not able to challenge their detention in US Courts. Boumediene changed that and opened the courthouse door (though it didn't say exactly how wide) to Gitmo detainees.

Does anyone really think, given the arc of modern jurisprudence on detainee issues, that courts are going to allow a two tier system of justice for people held on US soil? Okay, anyone not named Lindsey Graham that is.

I wouldn't be surprised that that's what the White House is banking on. They can say, "KSM will be tried in a military commission on the US mainland" but then the courts will say, "No, they are held in the US so they get all the rights anyone else does".

Add to that the cost and security issues involved and you see just what a great 'deal' this is.

Thanks Lindsey!

Posted by: DrewM at 07:53 AM | Comments (105)
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1 I voted against him in the primary & the general.  Don't blame me. 

Posted by: Wm Murderface at March 19, 2010 07:54 AM (pZEar)

2

I was first ??  Wow !!  This is almost as good as getting my name in the pphone book !

Posted by: Wm Murderface at March 19, 2010 07:54 AM (pZEar)

3 I'm thinking there just isn't going to be any good news today.  Good lord.  I cant even start drinking for another 9 hours at least.  Shit.

Posted by: Grunt2Jag at March 19, 2010 07:55 AM (Yr6lx)

4 Put a cork in it Lindsey.  Lord, I can't stand that squish.

It's going to be a long, miserable weekend.  However, watch the protests in DC.  Between the Marxist "anti-war" protesters, the pro-amnesty crowd, and the Tea Partiers, things could get interesting.  And not in a good way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 07:57 AM (UOM48)

5 I consider it good news in a perverse sort of way. Adds to the ammo stock.

Posted by: arhooley at March 19, 2010 07:59 AM (LGC1a)

6 I'm thinking there just isn't going to be any good news today.  Good lord.  I cant even start drinking for another 9 hours at least.  Shit. Posted by: Grunt2Jag

I have to wait until 5pm Pacific.  I am so glad I started drinking again last week.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 07:59 AM (iYbLN)

7 Hey Grunt,

Just apply the Slaughter Solution and deem it to be 9 hours later...Cheers!

Posted by: the hawk at March 19, 2010 08:01 AM (6FWsz)

8 Alright.  Who the hell is he fucking?  That's the only thing that explains why he's going with the crazy here.

Posted by: AmishDude at March 19, 2010 08:01 AM (Vo2Ef)

9 Lindsey Graham can go fuck himself, sideways, in the squeakhole, with a fresh pineapple

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 08:03 AM (erIg9)

10

One good thing - Graham's shenanigans will get McCain permanently booted in Arizona as people wake up and see what's in store once McCain stops lying to the Republican primary voters. Even Palin won't be able to help him. Folks are pissed.

Hayworth is moving up with a bullet. I don't give a shot abiout the General, if it means that McCain and his Amnesty bullshit will come back with a vengence. It's tear up the party again, like it did when W stupidly pushed it onto us (hand in hand with McCain) and set the stage for the mess we have today.

The Republican Party will not be able to heal itself nationally and through 2012 until McCain gets permanently kicked out of power. He is that toxic.

Posted by: TexasJew at March 19, 2010 08:04 AM (wMXOq)

11

I wish I was 87 instead of 27. At least at 87 I would only have a few more years to live in this statist utopia.

Does anyone believe the GOP can sustain a filibuster against Amnesty? I DON'T.

Posted by: Dan at March 19, 2010 08:04 AM (1jzSs)

12 Never trust a man with a girls name.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (ympF8)

13

Linday is the kind of politician we need to lead Republicanism into the next phase of Republicaness. 

Posted by: MEgs at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (pr+up)

14

"Hey Grunt,

Just apply the Slaughter Solution and deem it to be 9 hours later...Cheers!"

 

Ha!  I wish I could.  Unfortunately Funemployement wont pay the bills...damnit.

Posted by: Grunt2Jag at March 19, 2010 08:05 AM (Yr6lx)

15 Guy@12  Heh.  You reading my mind today?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (UOM48)

16

Sounds like Lindsay wants to be rebuffed by Rahm.   IYKWIM

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (GwPRU)

17 "These courts would offer defendants more rights than they had under the Bush administration, but fewer than they would be afforded in civilian court."

The president gets to say, "See, I'm a brilliant centrist." With a huge assist from Grahamnesty.  Meanwhile, as Drew points out, the libs won't let this go and any incremental movement left just gets them closer to their goal.  Memo to LG, they won't let this die just because you cut some "deal" that puts this to rest.  It will only be forgotten about by you. 

LG will be voted out in 2014.  Unfortunately, he'll team with B to the O to do sex to us many times before then.

Posted by: The Hammer at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (YBTwf)

18 Fucking RINO

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 19, 2010 08:06 AM (ucq49)

19 Hope Rush can lift my spirits.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:07 AM (UOM48)

20 Pansie Gramcracker needs his ass kicked out of the Republican party.  This pile of steaming shit has no problem telling his constintuients to....... shut the fuck up, you cracker rednecks, you don't know what you're talking about.  He's very arrogant, no better than dinglebarry.  It's sickening.

Posted by: Sparky at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (r0u40)

21 Rush is playing audio from the TOTUS pep rally

Posted by: Mjim at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (V8B//)

22 It's also ironic that the weekend that Communism/Socialism/Fascism officially takes over the nation I'm taking the family to the Reagan Library...a sad reminder of yesteryear.

Posted by: Grunt2Jag at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (Yr6lx)

23 Why does he keep getting elected? Really, who here is from SC and can tell me why he keeps getting voted in - I don't get it.

Posted by: obamastillsucks at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (1l2bp)

24 What is the point of this silly post?

Do you really think you  have any influence on the Republican Party?

Republicans are acting in concert with Democrats to eviscerate the United States of America - and Lindsay Graham is the proof of that.

Do you think given the circumstances, Drew, that anyone who loves America should donate one fucking dime to the Republican Party when, with the active support of the party, Lindsey Graham is a member in good standing?

The Republican Party has been infiltrated by closeted Democrats.

Lindsay Graham is not a Republican.

Posted by: someguy at March 19, 2010 08:08 AM (VRJIW)

25

Rush is playing audio from the TOTUS pep rally

So. Presidential.

 It.Isn't. Even. Funneh.

Posted by: garrett at March 19, 2010 08:10 AM (COIIF)

26 Why does he keep getting elected?

He keeps getting elected because the Republican Party wants him in office. They give him millions of dollars to run his campaigns.

He is doing precisely what the Republican Party wants him to do, or else Michael Steele would be on YouTube denouncing Lindsey Graham and his plan.

Is he?

No.

Posted by: someguy at March 19, 2010 08:10 AM (VRJIW)

27 If only the people I have to negotiate with would be willing to give up something that I really want to have in exchange for something I'm going to give them in any event. 


Posted by: SlaveDog at March 19, 2010 08:11 AM (H6Jyg)

28 "These courts would offer defendants more rights than they had under the Bush administration, but fewer than they would be afforded in civilian court."

Translation:  These scumbags will have more rights in this country than I will ever have.

Posted by: mpfs at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (iYbLN)

29 How the hell does SC give us Jim DeMint and this little pansy?

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (Z+qzA)

30 12 Never trust a man with a girls name.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 19, 2010 12:05 PM (ympF

I'm OUTRAGED!!! I'm a MAN, my name is Dana.

What about Dana Roherbacher, he's stand-up guy.

Dana Elcar?

Dana Carvey?

Eh...I suppose it could have been worse...I could have been a boy named Sue.

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 08:13 AM (pr+up)

31 Hey, guys.  On the upside there will be 16,000 job openings in the IRS. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:14 AM (UOM48)

32 He's of a similar demeanor and caliber as John Edwards.  He'll ask some spirited questions at a hearing and then vote to confirm the clown.  Amnesty with Schumer-sounds good to me says LG. 

Posted by: ed at March 19, 2010 08:14 AM (Urhve)

33 Amnesty with Schumer-sounds good to me says LG. He took a shower with Rahm. Now he's starry-eyed all the time and eager to get a reach-around reach across the aisle.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 08:17 AM (RD7QR)

34

Yes that is correct. Since McCain is up for reelection this year it's up to his best buddy Graham to assume the mantle of lead RINO. Graham makes me furious, I know he's sometimes on the right side on issues like healthcare and security. but this ammnesty stuff is POISON and would hand over a huge victory to Obama and the democrats and sink us. It total bullshit, He is a traitor.

Lindsey Graham can kiss my ass! I can't wait to support whoever runs against you, be it a Republican or Democrat.

Posted by: exceller at March 19, 2010 08:18 AM (jx2Td)

35 Hey Lindsey time to come out of the closet......as a progressive.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:18 AM (Z+qzA)

36
We're at a point in our nation's history where we have a president whose only job in life was a brief stint as a Constitutional law professor has told the American people that he does not care about the process of passing laws in Congress, he only cares about signing the bills.


What the fucking fuck, over?

Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 19, 2010 08:18 AM (z37MR)

37 But his democrat opponent in S. Carolina would have been even worse.

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 08:20 AM (IsLT6)

38 Can we have a basketball thread to take a break? Morgan State opens up 5-0 on West Virginia.

Posted by: logprof at March 19, 2010 08:20 AM (Mmw0q)

39 We are becoming Venezuela.  Act accordingly.

Posted by: CALL AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN at March 19, 2010 08:20 AM (PI/0J)

40

Why not take this out on McCain? That's a great idea. We know they're blood brothers. If McCain doesn't distance himself from this then we can all assume he is just sitting on his hands because its and election year, but we all know if it weren't he'd be there extending his friendly hand across the aisle.

 

We need to get rid of all these dinosaurs.

Posted by: exceller at March 19, 2010 08:20 AM (jx2Td)

41 Graham: sometimes the job of the opposition is just to OPPOSE. This dude is so into compromise, if someone wanted to assfuck him, instead of saying "hell no" he'd say "How about I just suck you off and toss your salad?" and be happy about it.

Posted by: sexypig at March 19, 2010 08:21 AM (0t7L8)

42 29 How the hell does SC give us Jim DeMint and this little pansy?

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 12:13 PM (Z+qzA)

You got me. And sadly, one of the many tragedies of ObamaCare is that it will end research into the promised bioweapon that can distinguish between Graham and DeMint primary voters.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 08:21 AM (lk70u)

43

I know he's sometimes on the right side on issues like healthcare and security. but this ammnesty stuff is POISON and would ... sink us.

Slow poison or fast poison.

Life is not on the ballot.

Posted by: Entropy at March 19, 2010 08:22 AM (IsLT6)

44 31 Hey, guys.  On the upside there will be 16,000 job openings in the IRS

And you might get one of those shiny new shotguns the IRS just bought.

Posted by: MarkC at March 19, 2010 08:23 AM (yPPVC)

45

So Graham will be a yes vote, too.

Posted by: Antimatter at March 19, 2010 08:23 AM (gbCNS)

46

WTF happened to South Carolina that they'd tolerate this little pussybitch?  I thought SC was about as red a state as it gets.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 08:24 AM (rf03a)

47 Morgan State up 10-0!

Posted by: logprof at March 19, 2010 08:24 AM (Mmw0q)

48
You ever notice EVERY time the Republicans start gaining traction and momentum in public favor there's ALWAYS some Republican who comes along and fucks it up?

I'm starting to think we have mini-Manchurians in the Republican party who have been programmed to sabotage the GOP.

Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (z37MR)

49

when is Graham up for re-election?

i will support, with my money, any conservative who opposes him.

Linsdey Graham is the DEVIL! 

Posted by: shoey at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (Ed9Xn)

50

Graham's yet another RINO who'll be swept out of office soon.

If we can survive the progressive destruction of our country, that is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 19, 2010 08:25 AM (i3AsK)

51 McCain can go fuck himself as well. Even if that cocksucker voted on every fucking bill the way I want him to, his history is enough to make me despise him for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Purveyor of Fine Meteors at March 19, 2010 08:26 AM (erIg9)

52 when is Graham up for re-election?

2014.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 19, 2010 08:27 AM (lk70u)

53 #51 Uncle Facts, don't be so mean.  Think of Meggy Mac. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:27 AM (UOM48)

54
In September '08, the Republicans made huge strides in public favor with the Drill Here/Drill Now movement,

THEN a bunch of cocksucking 'moderate' Republicans came along and put ki-bosh on it.

Remember that? McCain desperately needed that momentum and it came right on the heels of Obama suggesting we inflate our tires as the centerpiece of his energy policy.

Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 19, 2010 08:29 AM (z37MR)

55 Graham still believes is AGW. That about says it all.

Posted by: pat at March 19, 2010 08:30 AM (/VyB7)

56
And can someone please tell me why Michael Steele, that big fucking loser, is still the chairman of the RNC?


Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 19, 2010 08:30 AM (z37MR)

57 Hey, morons.  I just had a "brilliant" idea.  Maybe AoSHQ can get a deal on Gitmo.  With a little "re-decorating" it would make a nice compound for us, when we escape the Socialist States of America.  Nice climate, fishing, scuba diving, plus, didn't we just upgrade the place and add a bunch of flat screen TV's? 

Thoughts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:31 AM (UOM48)

58 Hey, morons. I just had a "brilliant" idea. Maybe AoSHQ can get a deal on Gitmo. With a little "re-decorating" it would make a nice compound for us, when we escape the Socialist States of America. Nice climate, fishing, scuba diving, plus, didn't we just upgrade the place and add a bunch of flat screen TV's? Thoughts? Kinda hot and sticky for my taste, but then no heating bills (or snow). I'm in, but I get dibs on a hammock near the door.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 08:32 AM (RD7QR)

59

I will not visit Myrtle beach unitl Lindsay cock-knocker is out of office. If this Rino shit continues , I'll be relegated to playing putt-putts til 2030!!

Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 08:33 AM (pr+up)

60

We're at a point in our nation's history where we have a president whose only job in life was a brief stint as a Constitutional law professor has told the American people that he does not care about the process of passing laws in Congress, he only cares about signing the bills.

He was a lecturer, not a professor.

Also, this bill includes tax ["revenue"] increases which originated in the Senate, contrary to the requirement that all tax increases must originate in the House:

Section. 7. All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

 

Posted by: Lt. Quarles Harris Jr. at March 19, 2010 08:34 AM (kyg+f)

61

Hey, morons.  I just had a "brilliant" idea.  Maybe AoSHQ can get a deal on Gitmo.  With a little "re-decorating" it would make a nice compound for us, when we escape the Socialist States of America.  Nice climate, fishing, scuba diving, plus, didn't we just upgrade the place and add a bunch of flat screen TV's? 

Thoughts?

I notice a disturbing lack of booze and prostitutes in your proposal.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 08:34 AM (rf03a)

62

Jane,

I loved Gitmo, spent 5 months there back in '94-'95 as a wire walker for Haitian and Cuban refugees.  It was gorgeous and had all you listed and more.  I'd be up for that.

Posted by: Grunt2Jag at March 19, 2010 08:34 AM (Yr6lx)

63 58 Hey, morons. I just had a "brilliant" idea. Maybe AoSHQ can get a deal on Gitmo. With a little "re-decorating" it would make a nice compound for us, when we escape the Socialist States of America. Nice climate, fishing, scuba diving, plus, didn't we just upgrade the place and add a bunch of flat screen TV's?

Thoughts?


Kinda hot and sticky for my taste, but then no heating bills (or snow). I'm in, but I get dibs on a hammock near the door.

Posted by: joncelli at March 19, 2010 12:32 PM (RD7QR)

Will there be pudding...and beer?

 

Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 08:34 AM (pr+up)

64 This is why Hayworth is a better deal in the long run than McCain. Sooner or later McCain will return to the backstabbing of conservatives he enjoys so much.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 08:35 AM (593B8)

65

Lindsay Graham.. this asshat might as well wander around with a name tag on that says underneath his name "Democratic Party Stooge".  What an idiot.

I can only hope that he, McCain and the rest of the Democrats posing as Republicans will get their asses outted in their next re-election cycle.  The republican's need to understand that this "Were Democrat Lite" strategy just isn't going to fly anymore. 

What worries me is that while I have seen some signs of life from the republican side of the aisle the party itself seems conspiciously absent.  I haven't seen or heard a peep out of Steele in quite a while, for example.

On the upside the vote count is still up in the air, so I for one intend to keep calling, faxing, emailing and harrasing not only the maybe's on the list but the recent sell outs as well. 

 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 19, 2010 08:35 AM (e8T35)

66

The fiscal floodgates are opening for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the presidentÂ’s former employer and legal client, despite a congressional ban on funding the activist group that has long been a practitioner of election fraud.

In a March 16 memo Office of Management and Budget (OMB) director Peter Orszag quietly ordered federal agencies to resume funding the group whose employees were caught on hidden camera videos last year condoning a variety of crimes including child prostitution and tax evasion

@Breitbart big gvt site.

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2010 08:37 AM (7FgWm)

67 Ask not for whom the bone bones...for it bones for you!

Posted by: Bender B. Rodriguez at March 19, 2010 08:38 AM (/bVuS)

68 dananjcon@63  We will most certainly have pudding and beer.  And don't forget bacon! 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 19, 2010 08:39 AM (UOM48)

69 DeDe Graham--the new poster boy for Big Tent Republicanism, now that Specterd finally ripped off the mask.  Lets hear it for Big Tent Republicans!!

Posted by: Louis Tully at March 19, 2010 08:40 AM (jat5l)

70 Jane, I'm in.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 19, 2010 08:40 AM (pr+up)

71 Thoughts?

Can we go on raiding parties into Castro's Cuba.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:41 AM (Z+qzA)

72

I notice a disturbing lack of booze and prostitutes in your proposal.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 12:34 PM (rf03a)

The economy would be as a trans-shipment point for booze, blow and hookers. That is a given.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 08:42 AM (dQdrY)

73 Yes, Washington needs fewer noisy, unserious conservative hicks and more experienced insiders like Sen. Graham.

Posted by: kraut hammer at March 19, 2010 08:44 AM (jat5l)

74 TARD

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 19, 2010 08:47 AM (w5ptJ)

75 Petraeus wants to close Gitmo too. Says that it just helps the terrorists in their recruiting. but hey what does he know,right ?

Posted by: Andy Rand at March 19, 2010 08:49 AM (mhD2v)

76

46-WTF happened to South Carolina that they'd tolerate this little pussybitch?  I thought SC was about as red a state as it gets

I guess that means we are not, as previously thought, the squishiest Republicans in the Union.

Posted by: pathetic Republicans of Pennsylvania at March 19, 2010 08:49 AM (jat5l)

77 Damn !! Lindsey has already sold us out on the torture thing

Posted by: Andy Rand at March 19, 2010 08:51 AM (mhD2v)

78

Posted by: Andy Rand at March 19, 2010 12:49 PM (mhD2v)

Gitmo has lost its utility. Just hand them to friendly afghans with chainsaws. Easy peasy. But carry on with your smug 'tude.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 08:52 AM (dQdrY)

79 Petraeus wants to close Gitmo too. Says that it just helps the terrorists in their recruiting. but hey what does he know,right ?

Posted by: Andy Rand at March 19, 2010 12:49 PM (mhD2v)

He also wants to shift the west bank from European command separating it from Israel, putting it into Central command.

He can go fuck himself!

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 08:52 AM (593B8)

80 There would be no recruiting if we just executed terrorists.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2010 08:53 AM (GwPRU)

81

Ebony and Ivory.

My all time favorite song; now.

Posted by: Lindsay "stevie" Graham at March 19, 2010 08:53 AM (6dHiv)

82 Maybe if we all chipped in and bought him a chin he would toughen up.

Posted by: dan in michigan at March 19, 2010 08:55 AM (9jRMu)

83 He also wants to shift the west bank from European command separating it from Israel, putting it into Central command.

That's not true, he was misquoted and the lefty press ran with it.

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 08:59 AM (Z+qzA)

84 Graham has always been Bat shit crazy but the people who vote for him are worse. I'd drive a thousand extra miles to avoid S.C. and everytime I'm shopping for something on EBay and it's located in S.C. I just forget it and keep looking. Anyone notice the troops in the field have caught up with facts and no longer take prisoners. Kill them on the spot or turn them over to the Paki's (same as killing them) and avoid a lot of problems.

Posted by: Scrapiron at March 19, 2010 09:00 AM (GkYyh)

85

Just make less reportable income.

Pay nothing.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 09:02 AM (dQdrY)

86 South Carolina . . . where on earth did you dig up this dolt?

Posted by: rplat at March 19, 2010 09:06 AM (G1ArL)

87 Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 12:59 PM (Z+qzA)

No, it is true. The misquote was that he presented it to Mullen at the Pentagon not to Obama at the Whitehouse.

Here
and
Here as well.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 09:07 AM (593B8)

88 You ever notice EVERY time the Republicans start gaining traction and momentum in public favor there's ALWAYS some Republican who comes along and fucks it up?

Gee, you think that's an accident? Really? Just coincidence, huh?

Look, the Republican Party has been infiltrated by Democrats.

That's why you can't give money to the Republican Party until such time as it expels the Democrat members such as Lindsay Graham and others who wish to "reach across the aisle" and help Democrats enact their legislation.

Those members need to be spat upon and expelled from the Party.

If you must donate, send your check to the Tea Party and a copy to the Republican Party letting them know that you'll resume your donations to the Republican Party once it expels the Democrats that have infested it.

Posted by: someguy at March 19, 2010 09:09 AM (VRJIW)

89 Diana West has the story as well and other information about this guy Petraeus.

He is a self-described Rockefeller Republican (AKA Rino) and I think he is another Colin Powell who just hasn't come out yet.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 09:09 AM (593B8)

90 Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 01:07 PM (593B

http://tinyurl.com/yj9e6dd

Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 09:11 AM (Z+qzA)

91 What's the difference between "Bush-era military commissions" and previous commissions?

Posted by: azjon at March 19, 2010 09:13 AM (n7oXH)

92

This basically proves what my third-party Wyoming-living Ron Paul-voting loony friends say.

All politics is a stage show between two wings of the same party, the American Ruling Class Party.

If the East Coast establishment Republicans weren't in bed with their Democrat buddies, Graham and McCain would have been kicked out of the party a long time ago and we wouldn't have Michael Steele's leadership. He has been worse than no chairman at all.

Fuck, maybe it IS all a conspiracy and the Yale and Harvard kids really do rule everything.

Posted by: SGT Dan at March 19, 2010 09:16 AM (GgXZc)

93

Just send money to J. D. Hayworth in AZ.

Kill the problem at it RINO-ist core (McCain)

Posted by: TexasJew at March 19, 2010 09:21 AM (wMXOq)

94

GE: Immelt. Ivy Leaguer.

Supreme Court: All Ivy Leaguers, I believe.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 19, 2010 09:27 AM (dQdrY)

95

What's the difference between "Bush-era military commissions" and previous commissions?

HOPENCHANGE

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2010 09:30 AM (rf03a)

96 Posted by: Mal at March 19, 2010 01:11 PM (Z+qzA)
Your source claims...

Actually, that’s not what Petraeus said. Rather, it’s pulled from the 56-page Central Command “Posture Statement” filed by his staff with the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Ummm... the claim that it was filed by his staff and doesn't reflect his views is kinda silly!

The title of the PDF is...

STATEMENT OF GENERAL DAVID H. PETRAEUS, U.S. ARMY
COMMANDER U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND
BEFORE THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE ON
THE POSTURE OF U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND
16 MAR 2010

So I am gonna go with the wild and crazy idea that it was a STATEMENT of GENERAL DAVID H. PETRAEUS. I cannot go so far as to say that he personally typed up the report, but that's kind of beside the point.

So this guy Boot is claiming that because Petraeus didn't read it out loud somehow Petraeus' statement isn't actually his statement?

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 09:38 AM (593B8)

97 This guy's an idiot. If he just waits 8 months, he can have a BETTER negotiating position on these issues. Why would you want to do them now and help the Dems when you could wait until Nov. and negotiate from a more powerful position? Does he think if he doesn't make some compromises every year its not work?

Posted by: sexypig at March 19, 2010 09:38 AM (0t7L8)

98 This is just more Mojo Showboating.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 19, 2010 09:42 AM (3fiIy)

99

Also, this bill includes tax ["revenue"] increases which originated in the Senate, contrary to the requirement that all tax increases must originate in the House:

I know folks like Mark Levine are planning lawsuits if this thing passes, I think perhaps our best chance though will be from the State of Virginia.

Granted you can't really rely on SCOTUS for much that resembles common sense half the time, but just from a layman's view this appears to be pretty much a slam-dunk.

I think the thing that pisses me off the most is this line of bullshit their trying to use that this is "business as usual" and that this has all "been done before by the republicans."

Bullshit.  The republican's may have used the reconciliation process a few times, but never on anything like this, and certainly they have never used this deem and pass bullshit, yet that's the response you get from every Dem who can get within range of a microphone whenever anyone asks them about deem and pass.

I just hope there are 288 job openings in November, all of them in the House of Representatives.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at March 19, 2010 09:46 AM (e8T35)

100 Sort of puts the occasions when Sen. Scott Brown (R-Commiechusetts) strays off the reservation into a bit of perspective, no?

Posted by: DocJ at March 19, 2010 10:06 AM (dt6br)

101 I can't stand that arrogant ass.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 19, 2010 10:18 AM (zYWzC)

102

#89, Petraeus doesn't have a political philosophy except a tendency toward autocracy. That's why I never take the presidential rumors seriously. His wife Holly was quoted in "Tell Me How This Ends" as "If he did run, he'd be doing it with his second wife".

Going back to Princeton as a college professor in International Relations, yes. SecState, maybe. Political office I seriously doubt.  

Posted by: SGT Dan at March 19, 2010 11:31 AM (GgXZc)

103 Posted by: SGT Dan at March 19, 2010 03:31 PM (GgXZc)

Yeah, I think it's the blank slate candidate thing. Like Colin Powell he looks good as long as you don't know anything about him. I doubt he will run either.

Posted by: sharrukin at March 19, 2010 11:35 AM (593B8)

104 As the umpire said, "You're outta there."

Posted by: timothyJ at March 19, 2010 12:06 PM (IKKIf)

105 Thank you very much

Posted by: güzel sözler at August 02, 2010 10:38 AM (YHI6v)

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