April 21, 2014

Long-Rumored Clinton White House Memo Pushing Idea of the Internet as an Incubator for Right-Wing "Conspiracies" Finally Released to Public
— Ace

Via Althouse, the document that probably served as the basis for Hillary Clinton's "vast right-wing conspiracy" remark.

The actual document is here. There's not much to it. It's a fairly crude political blast-fax type thing (from the age of the blast-fax -- the emails of yesteryear).

Interesting, it uses the term "conspiracy theory" to apply not just to what would typically be termed conspiracy theories (the various theories about Vince Foster's death) but also to any derogatory story the Clinton White House wished to delegitimize. Thus, the Paula Jones and Gennifer Flower accusations -- which were not "conspiracy theories" in any sense, but just accusations that Clinton (falsely) denied -- are termed "conspiracy theories" pushed by the "right-wing."

Whitewater also gets namechecked as a "conspiracy theory."

The document is especially paranoid itself* about the powers of this newfangled "Internet" machine:

The right wing has seized upon the internet as a means of communicating its ideas to people.

Moreover, evidence exists that Republican staffers surf the internet, interacting with extremists in order to exchange ideas and information.

Egads!

Other interesting points:

The memo is much-concerned on partisans' ability to transmit memes via this "Internet" and then get them into "mainstream" news coverage. Note that the left has spent the last twenty years building up a serious and well-funded infrastructure of professional agitators whose only goal is to just that, but for the left.

Media Matters and all the rest are frequently able to get their stories picked up by the "mainstream" media, and, per Sheryl Attkisson, are also active in coordinating email/phone call/whisper campaigns to "controversialize" news stories they don't like and get them pulled from "mainstream" media broadcasts and articles.

The other interesting thing, of course, is that the names "Richard Mellon Scaife" and "Joseph Farah" litter the document like mentions of the devil in a medieval treatise on the plague.

Twenty years later, and they're still working off the exact same playbook. It's just that the Koch Brothers are the Devils of the Day.

* Note how establishment players are often extremely paranoid about "the fringe" (that is, anyone who's non-establishment).

This 2009 article describes "the paranoia of the center" (or the putative center -- certainly They think they're the center) and how their hateful suspicions about anyone Not Like Them can lead to deligitimization campaigns and suppression of vital debate.

We've heard ample warnings about extremist paranoia in the months since Barack Obama became president, and we're sure to hear many more throughout his term. But we've heard almost nothing about the paranoia of the political center. When mainstream commentators treat a small group of unconnected crimes as a grand, malevolent movement, they unwittingly echo the very conspiracy theories they denounce. Both brands of connect-the-dots fantasy reflect the tellers' anxieties much more than any order actually emerging in the world.

When such a story is directed at those who oppose the politicians in power, it has an additional effect. The list of dangerous forces that need to be marginalized inevitably expands to include peaceful, legitimate critics.

The Paranoid Style in Center-Left Politics

This isn't the first time the establishment has been overrun with paranoia about paranoiacs. The classic account of American conspiratology is Richard Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics," a 1964 survey of political fear from the founding generation through the Cold War. A flawed and uneven essay, Hofstadter's article nonetheless includes several perceptive passages. The most astute one might be this:

"It is hard to resist the conclusion that this enemy is on many counts the projection of the self; both the ideal and the unacceptable aspects of the self are attributed to him. The enemy may be the cosmopolitan intellectual, but the paranoid will outdo him in the apparatus of scholarship, even of pedantry. Secret organizations set up to combat secret organizations give the same flattery. The Ku Klux Klan imitated Catholicism to the point of donning priestly vestments, developing an elaborate ritual and an equally elaborate hierarchy. The John Birch Society emulates Communist cells and quasi-secret operation through 'front' groups, and preaches a ruthless prosecution of the ideological war along lines very similar to those it finds in the Communist enemy."

Hofstadter didn't acknowledge it, but his argument applied to much of his audience as well. His article begins with a reference to "extreme right-wingers," a lead that reflected the times. In the early 1960s, America was experiencing a wave of alarm about the radical right. This had been building throughout the Kennedy years and then exploded after the president's assassination, which many people either blamed directly on the far right or attributed to an atmosphere of fear and division fed by right-wing rhetoric. By the time Hofstadter's essay appeared, the "projection of the self" he described was in full effect. Just as anti-communists had mimicked the communists, anti-anti-communists were emulating the red hunters.

It's an important piece, worth reading again every year.

So, it appears that the Democrats became paranoid about these "right wing extremists" using the Internet to "spread [their] ideas" to the mainstream media, and then spent the next twenty years diligently creating a virtual media paramilitary militia army to transmit their own memes and enforce their community-based narratives.

Posted by: Ace at 01:17 PM | Comments (167)
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1 We went from being the feared gods of the internet to...ORCA.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 21, 2014 01:18 PM (uhAkr)

2 They can blame Gore, he invented it didn't he?

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 01:20 PM (G+Wff)

3 Good thing we're safe here.

Posted by: Music is her name at April 21, 2014 01:20 PM (1/4XQ)

4 This is all old news. Isn't it time we moved on?

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton at April 21, 2014 01:20 PM (IN7k+)

5 whew how dare the citizens speak amongst eachother, or actually encourage information exchange and ideas. "you will like your news that we allow you!, now shut up"

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (nqBYe)

6 Twenty years later, and they're still working off the exact same playbook. It's just that the Koch Brothers are the Devils of the Day. *settles in to listen to MWR's thoughts on Koch* How does it go, the Left accuses the Right wanting to do all the things the Left really does.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (mf5HN)

7 The right wing has seized upon the internet as a means of communicating its ideas to people. Oh no! They're on to us!!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (oMKp3)

8 That damnned intertubez, telling the truth and crap.

Posted by: The DNC and MSM at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (if2JC)

9
If I was a republican, I would recommend to the republicans to start using this word 'extremist' against the dems.  It is used over and over by dems and it works, not necessarily on any one issue but as an attachment to the word republican.

But they won't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (hJauc)

10 Yep, they accuse the GOP of doing what they, the democrats are doing. It makes sense, of a sort. If you are a lying, pandering, womanizing, drunk corrupt politician on the take, then it's safe to assume your opponent is the same.

Posted by: Williams the Youngest at April 21, 2014 01:21 PM (CSYyi)

11 It was probably written by Sid "DUI" Blumenthal, who used to be the mastermind behind Rodham's wilder flights of dumbfuckery.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 21, 2014 01:22 PM (EWYBa)

12 The right wing has seized upon the internet as a means of communicating its ideas to people. Moreover, evidence exists that Republican staffers surf the internet, interacting with extremists in order to exchange ideas and information. Wow, there's no "otherizing" of the reich wing there, is there?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:22 PM (0HooB)

13 Conspiracy theories hey?
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Paula Jones - Clinton settled with her and got his law license revoked

Gennifer Flowers - I don't think *anyone* questions this one right?

Whitewater - they didn't get Clinton, but they did get his Lt Governor (who succeeded him as Governor) and all of the principals on the scam except for the Clintons...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 01:22 PM (78TbK)

14 and of course, this is another, they are doing what we have done! waves at JournOlisters. and didn't Obama run on the fact that they were Internet hipsters, able to sporead their message far and wide.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:23 PM (nqBYe)

15

"The right wing has seized upon the internet as a means of communicating its ideas to people."

 

That's a gem there 

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2014 01:23 PM (nTgAI)

16 remember that old cranky McCain and Bush that couldn't understand a grocery scanner?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

17 , I would recommend to the republicans to start using this word 'extremist'
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Oh I know...we could start calling people that oppose Amnesty extremists...that is what you mean, right?

Posted by: Jeb Bush, John McCain, etc... at April 21, 2014 01:24 PM (78TbK)

18 Dood, can you say "samizdat"? I think you can.

Posted by: Im not "The Dude", but... at April 21, 2014 01:24 PM (1/4XQ)

19 did Mika decide to no longer take the meme of the day from the WH?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

20 actually encourage information exchange and ideas.
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Ignorance is strength comrade.

Posted by: Some Socialist at April 21, 2014 01:25 PM (78TbK)

21 "The right wing has seized upon the internet as a means of communicating its ideas to people." Where's the scary music? I paid for the Platinum membership and when I mouse over key words in AoSHQ postsÂ…I'm supposed to get scary music. Really, people, is it that hard?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:25 PM (yz6yg)

22
Posted by: Jeb Bush, John McCain, etc... at April 21, 2014 05:24 PM (78TbK)

hah. no, I meant republicans should use it, not you.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 21, 2014 01:27 PM (hJauc)

23 Whitewater also gets namechecked as a "conspiracy theory." If people are sitting in jail because they don't want to testify in court to your involvement it's not a theory.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 01:27 PM (z/Ubi)

24 Sean, should it sound like Jaws?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:27 PM (nqBYe)

25 Questions as to Obama's eligibility to serve as President have likewise been called "Conspiracy Theories" in an effort to delegitimize such questions. Oddly enough, this one was bi-partisan. For some reason, a lot of Republicans simply did not want to discuss this topic.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:27 PM (bb5+k)

26 I paid for the Platinum membership and when I mouse over key words in AoSHQ postsÂ…
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Please send your credit card number and CVV to scammer@cc_thief.com and we will process your refund in 6-8 weeks.

Thanks and come again.

Posted by: Some 3L1T3 H4Ck3R at April 21, 2014 01:27 PM (78TbK)

27 Sean, should it sound like Jaws? Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 05:27 PM (nqBYe) Only when the topic of the post is Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:28 PM (yz6yg)

28 comrade, we will Tell You the ideas we want you to have.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:28 PM (nqBYe)

29 In before some jackhole chastises Ace for linking Althouse!

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 01:28 PM (oTxIB)

30 I thought Al Gore invented the internet?

Al should've done something about that then, huh?

Will the ass licking of Democrats by the Media ever end?

Or reach a depth that even THEY become ashamed of?

*nope*

Not a chance.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 01:28 PM (JS0vr)

31 The tomb was empty, bitches. Just sayin'. But, there's more to come.

Posted by: A Realist at April 21, 2014 01:28 PM (1/4XQ)

32

Sad was the day that the Democrats loss total ability to control the news with ABC/CBS/NBC.

Anyone who believes in the Constitution, limited government, and fiscal responsibility is considered an extremist, anarchrist, a domestic terrorist.

 

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (G+Wff)

33 Sean, no, no, it should be saved for michelle my belle

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (nqBYe)

34  In before some jackhole chastises Ace for linking Althouse!

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 05:28 PM (oTxIB)

 

I'm on it !

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (nTgAI)

35 I thought Al Gore invented the internet?
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AL Gore may have invented it...but all your online polls ARE MINE!

Posted by: Ron Paul at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (78TbK)

36 >>>>How does it go, the Left accuses the Right wanting to do all the things the Left really does. I've been saying that for a couple years. I remember the creators of South Park being on penn jilletes podcast a couple years back and also making a similar point.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (z/Ubi)

37 "The Ku Klux Klan imitated Catholicism to the point of donning priestly vestments, developing an elaborate ritual and an equally elaborate hierarchy." LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 01:29 PM (XyM/Y)

38 oh linked from althouse? shame on you ace.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:30 PM (nqBYe)

39 Sean, no, no, it should be saved for michelle my belle Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 05:29 PM (nqBYe) NoÂ…her music is the theme from Benny Hill. I heard it last week.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:30 PM (yz6yg)

40 "The Ku Klux Klan imitated Catholicism to the point of donning priestly vestments, developing an elaborate ritual and an equally elaborate hierarchy."
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Catholics? Say it ain't so!

Posted by: Grand Kleage Byrd at April 21, 2014 01:30 PM (78TbK)

41

Gee, ya think Althouse will show up here since you linker her?

I have a special gift for her!

http://tinyurl.com/kqn3hjm

Posted by: maddogg at April 21, 2014 01:31 PM (xWW96)

42 Buzzion, didn't Hillary help start Media Matters? well,'what does it matter now.'

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:31 PM (nqBYe)

43 They can blame Gore, he invented it didn't he? I love the Snopes article on that one. It's false because Gore phrased it differently. Gore says he "took the initiative in creating the internet", which is just another way of saying "that thing over there, I made it." Which is another way of saying, "I invented that." So a pithy rephrasing that changes nothing of the intent is false, according to Snopes.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 01:31 PM (o4Xc4)

44


If people are sitting in jail because they don't want to testify in court to your involvement it's not a theory.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 05:27 PM (z/Ubi)

 

 

Omerta.  The mafia does not even practice it anymore. 

 

But the Democrat party does!  Just ask Lois Lerner.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 01:31 PM (N7QgG)

45 Note how establishment players are often extremely paranoid about "the fringe" (that is, anyone who's non-establishment). It's not paranoia if they're really after you... Cocktails at 2?

Posted by: John Boehner at April 21, 2014 01:32 PM (FcR7P)

46 Gee, ya think Althouse will show up here since you linker her?
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She would be more interesting then the other Obama voters...but that isn't saying much.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 01:32 PM (78TbK)

47 maddog, i know you didn't do that! you did didn't you? i'll say it for her, because she is much too nice. bastid

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2014 01:32 PM (nqBYe)

48 Josh Marshall says Sharyl Attkisson "sounds nuts" now that she's left CBS and is complaining about a monolithic set of ideas and beliefs shared among CBS denizens. I didn't read his article, because I refuse to click on his links, but the headline makes his smear crystal clear. This is what the Clinton's did so well. Opponents were trailer parks sluts, or right wing crazies, or mentally deranged interns (until they pulled blue dresses with incontrovertible evidence out of safe keeping). No one who opposes lefty thinking can be left sounding legitimate.

Posted by: MTF at April 21, 2014 01:32 PM (F58x4)

49 I remember for a few days there was a conspiracy theory that Monica Lewinsky was a stalker.

Good thing she never washed that blue dress.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2014 01:33 PM (MNq6o)

50 This is what the Clinton's did so well. Opponents were trailer parks sluts, or right wing crazies, or mentally deranged interns (until they pulled blue dresses with incontrovertible evidence out of safe keeping). No one who opposes lefty thinking can be left sounding legitimate. Posted by: MTF at April 21, 2014 05:32 PM (F58x4) ‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’ — Lord Melbourne —

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:34 PM (bb5+k)

51 So a pithy rephrasing that changes nothing of the intent is false, according to Snopes.
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Snopes has been in the tank for a while.

Note the time they spend "disproving" silly Obama rumors like the photoshop of him holding a phone upside down and not dealing with more substantial things like did the President intentionally run guns to Mexican drug cartels or lie about Benghazi...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 01:34 PM (78TbK)

52 Take it from me and my personal observations of both myself and others.

Those that accuse others of some act will usually be found to have committed or wish to commit that same act.

Thieves cry "Thief" the loudest, the fastes and firstest.

(there's a saying somewhere like that but I can't be bothered to look it up)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 01:34 PM (JS0vr)

53 I'd forgotten was a total philanderer he is/was. The millennials and LIVs might recognize the name "Lewinsky," but likely not.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at April 21, 2014 01:34 PM (vgIRn)

54

>>>>How does it go, the Left accuses the Right wanting to do all the things the Left really does.

I've been saying that for a couple years. I remember the creators of South Park being on penn jilletes podcast a couple years back and also making a similar point.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 21, 2014 05:29 PM (z/Ubi)

 

 

Projection is not just a room in Hollywood. 

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 01:34 PM (N7QgG)

55 I updated with a 2009 Reason article on the "Paranoid Style of Center-Left Politics," by which the left, postulating a conspiracy on the right, begins conspiring itself.

Posted by: ace at April 21, 2014 01:36 PM (/FnUH)

56 She know they a foce out dey wut bigga than she. It vast. It so big, you can't get past it. It so high, you can't get over it. It so wide, you can't get 'round it. http://preview.tinyurl.com/lrxg7z9

Posted by: Wut Do Hillary Want? at April 21, 2014 01:36 PM (1/4XQ)

57 Glenn Reynolds has been noting that lately a lot of ideas which would previously have been considered "conspiracy theories" are not looking so kooky nowadays. Or words to that effect. Yeah, the weaponization of government agencies against people critical of them can push a lot of boundaries we would have never considered previously.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:36 PM (bb5+k)

58 This is what the Clinton's did so well. Opponents were trailer parks sluts, or right wing crazies, or mentally deranged interns Yes; The clintons were experts on the "War on Women."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 01:36 PM (XyM/Y)

59 Sad was the day that the Democrats loss total ability to control the news with ABC/CBS/NBC. Anyone who believes in the Constitution, limited government, and fiscal responsibility is considered an extremist, anarchrist, a domestic terrorist. I don't know who's worse: the people who promote the idiotic notion of "right-wing extremists" in order to gain power... ...or the people in the squishy middle who blindly believe anything they're told.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:36 PM (0HooB)

60 Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 05:31 PM (N7QgG)

That's because the Mafia has lost it's teeth.

The Democrats are out for blood.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 01:37 PM (JS0vr)

61 The Bolsheviks were constantly accusing pretty much everyone of conspiring against them.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:37 PM (9W+0f)

62 The Enemies of the People hysteria.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:38 PM (9W+0f)

63 Hillary doesn't look a day over 125. Her wrinkles have wrinkles, the ugly old bat.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 21, 2014 01:38 PM (Zdgjo)

64 I actually own this book - had to go pull it off the bookshelf & dust it off - titled "The Official Handbook of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" by Mark W. Smith. Copyright 2004. In the very back is a tear-out card with a spot to write your name before laminating - it actually states "official card-carrying member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"

Posted by: shredded chi at April 21, 2014 01:39 PM (oTxIB)

65 So how did this memo get out now, after all these years? Who leaked it? Why?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 01:39 PM (oMKp3)

66 The millennials and LIVs might recognize the name "Lewinsky," but likely not.

its like some old movie w/this dude bitching bout his rug or sumpin?  idk, its stoopid.

Posted by: HR all paranoid about corn dogs now at April 21, 2014 01:39 PM (ZKzrr)

67 Yes; The clintons were experts on the "War on Women."
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I wonder if Rand Paul will keep countering the WoW by talking about Bill if Hillary runs...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 21, 2014 01:39 PM (78TbK)

68 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Hillary! at April 21, 2014 01:39 PM (j0wOO)

69

You right wing baggers will next be saying that Media Matters a G. Soros production is in cahoots with CBS and "writing news" for them!

The politics of personal destruction a Clinton favorite.

I wish that we had an opposition party that would vocally call them on this.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 01:40 PM (G+Wff)

70 LOOK!

A BABY!!!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 01:40 PM (JS0vr)

71 "When the Soviet government is experiencing a difficult period and plots are being hatched by bourgeois elements and when at a critical moment we manage to lay bare these plots -- do they think they are discovered accidentally? Oh, no, not accidentally. They are discovered because the plotters live among the Masses, because they cannot succeed in their plots without the workers and peasants and it is there that, in the long run, they run up against people who go to that badly organized, as they said here, Cheka and say that exploiters are gathered in a certain place." -- Lenin

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:40 PM (9W+0f)

72 John has a long mustache

Posted by: Deleted at April 21, 2014 01:40 PM (XtLTM)

73 The clintons were experts on the "War on Women."

Although the only confirmed kill was Kathleen Willey's cat.  *hiss*

Posted by: HR all paranoid about corn dogs now at April 21, 2014 01:40 PM (ZKzrr)

74 Phew, that was close.

Posted by: HR all paranoid about corn dogs now at April 21, 2014 01:41 PM (ZKzrr)

75 This had been building throughout the Kennedy years and then exploded after the president's assassination, which many people either blamed directly on the far right or attributed to an atmosphere of fear and division fed by right-wing rhetoric I'm betting most Americans would say 1) that Lee Harvey Oswald was a right-winger, or 2) that it wasn't Oswald, it was the CIA/FBI (rightwingers)

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 21, 2014 01:41 PM (uhAkr)

76 Those that accuse others of some act will usually be found to have committed or wish to commit that same act. Eh, maybe. But how far is this from the annoying practice the left has of claiming everyone who opposes Gay Marriage is a closeted gay?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 01:41 PM (o4Xc4)

77 years ago i came across a questionnaire my pop had filled out for his grammar school reunion. the last question was, what is your biggest pet-peeve? he wrote, bill and hillary, in no particular order! (and yes, he did use an exclamation point)

Posted by: Puncher at April 21, 2014 01:41 PM (1YgVg)

78 I remember for a few days there was a conspiracy theory that Monica Lewinsky was a stalker.

Good thing she never washed that blue dress.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2014 05:33 PM (MNq6o)



That was also Sid Blumenthal, whose dickhole son was an influence on the Kansas jooo shooting nutjob.  Fine people that hang out with the Clintoons.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (EWYBa)

79 It must make democrats paranoid to know if the press stopped giving them a pass,  they'd all be in big trouble.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (MNq6o)

80 Heather, are Indiana corn dogs stalking you again?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (oMKp3)

81 But, of course, Lenin was just a "Bircher" conspiracy hypothesis.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (9W+0f)

82 Problem = Any problem Solution = International Socialism Why it hasn't worked evah: futile resistance by criminal reactionary elements

Posted by: It's the answer to everything at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (1/4XQ)

83 58 This is what the Clinton's did so well. Opponents were trailer parks sluts, or right wing crazies, or mentally deranged interns Yes; The clintons were experts on the "War on Women." Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 05:36 PM (XyM/Y) And once again I attempt to make this point. The Clinton's never had any POWER which did not come from Liberal Media people. The reason Clinton's words ended up in a megaphone directed at the American people is because the microphones and cameras are controlled by Left Wing Urban Democrats from New York and Los Angeles. (Mostly.) Till we can match their Media "Air Force" we will keep getting clobbered by lies. And with that point, I want to mention this new to me News Network. It's called "One America News Network." And it looks like something we ought to be supporting. http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/2014/04/one-american-news-network.html

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (bb5+k)

84 Heather, are Indiana corn dogs stalking you again?

Not that I've noticed...in the last thread someone said they were racist.

Posted by: HR all paranoid about corn dogs now at April 21, 2014 01:42 PM (ZKzrr)

85 Ok, horde, so did the kid actually fly to Hawaii in the wheel well of a plane? Or did he get up into the cargo hold while they were loading it? I"m not understanding how anyone can live through -40 temps, extremely low o2, AND while unconcious, not fall out of the wheel well when the plane drops it's landing gear at what, , 10,000 feet?

Posted by: Jen at April 21, 2014 01:43 PM (OPPHX)

86 61 The Bolsheviks were constantly accusing pretty much everyone of conspiring against them. Not without cause: the Tsarists had utterly infiltrated them. But for Lenin's tenacity and the dearth of any real opposition party after the Tsar abdicated, the Bolsheviks would be a footnote in a history book.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 21, 2014 01:43 PM (uhAkr)

87 Vote for me! Women's rights! Empowerment! Shatter the glass ceiling! (unless you are a trailer park slut, desperate intern, or anyone else that my husband has raped or molested and I helped in covering up)

Posted by: Hillary! at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (j0wOO)

88 in the last thread someone said they were racist Well, duh, of course they are.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (oMKp3)

89 Not that I've noticed...in the last thread someone said they were racist. Unite my pancake layered brothers!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (o4Xc4)

90 I think we should all chip in and get old Hillary something nice for her birthday, say a face tuck and a tummy lift. She'd look great don't ya think!

Posted by: Killerdog at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (Zdgjo)

91 http://preview.tinyurl.com/kcvlfc5

Posted by: Come on! Unh! at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (1/4XQ)

92 As was the Bolshevik Revolution, the Communization of China, the Communization of Eastern Europe, the intended Communization of the whole world, and even the Great Soviet Experiment itself.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (9W+0f)

93 I say we send her a gravestone.

Dated.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 01:44 PM (JS0vr)

94 All "intelligent" people know that this is so. Ergo, it is so.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:46 PM (9W+0f)

95 I think we should all chip in and get old Hillary something nice for her birthday, say a face tuck and a tummy lift. She'd look great don't ya think!

Posted by: Killerdog at April 21, 2014 05:44 PM (Zdgjo)



A few kegs of Corona would probably be more in her wheelhouse.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 21, 2014 01:46 PM (EWYBa)

96 Yeah # 48 the Clintons called it "nuts and sluts."

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 21, 2014 01:46 PM (9+ccr)

97 I'm so taaaaayered!

Posted by: Hillary! at April 21, 2014 01:47 PM (j0wOO)

98 After the Branch Davidian event I remember one attempt at deflection when Janet Reno said, at a presser, that the Government hadn't wanted to fire tear gas and then drive "tanks" into the burning building but they had been warned by intel sources that "Militias" and "Right Wing Militants" were on the move toward Waco so what else could they do? It wasn't her fault..

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 01:47 PM (mFU3C)

99 We just got our asses kicked by a bunch of NERDS!  NERDS!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 21, 2014 01:47 PM (uhMMS)

100 The Clinton Administration's hatred of the Internet would be a conspiracy in and of itself.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:47 PM (9W+0f)

101 @97 Yeh, working in a hospital, where they can cure my wannaownagunosis.

Posted by: Some Minnesotan at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (1/4XQ)

102 The reason Clinton's words ended up in a megaphone directed at the American people is because the microphones and cameras are controlled by Left Wing Urban Democrats from New York and Los Angeles. (Mostly.) --- Pretty much. The media was completely in the tank for the Dems in 1992 and it was a question as to whether they'd try to put Clinton, Moonbeam Brown, or Paul Tsongas over the top. Clinton won in spite of his various problems BECAUSE the media was so desperate for a Dem win that they'd go along with Carville ranting and raving about how you'd get people like Gennifer Flowers if you drug a C-note through any trailer park in Arkansas.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (APuJ7)

103

This is why they came up with the 'Gore Tax'.

 

And we're still paying it.

 

The Clintonistas declared that it was "Unfair!" that rich people had computers and internet service...and poor people didn't.

 

So they came up with that New Tax that appears on our phone bills, to provide internet service to the poor.

It's not so 'new' now...and a lot of people don't remember life without it.

 

AlGore was the one who pushed for it the most publically and since he was the "inventor of the internet"...it became known as the Gore Tax.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (fAjDo)

104 70 LOOK!

A BABY!!!!!!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 21, 2014 05:40 PM (JS0vr)

I'll notify Planned Parenthood. They'll know what to do.

Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (IN7k+)

105

Ok, horde, so did the kid actually fly to Hawaii in the wheel well of a plane? Or did he get up into the cargo hold while they were loading it?

I"m not understanding how anyone can live through -40 temps, extremely low o2, AND while unconcious, not fall out of the wheel well when the plane drops it's landing gear at what, , 10,000 feet?

Posted by: Jen at April 21, 2014 05:43 PM (OPPHX)

 

It worked for a character in a John Ringo novel.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (N7QgG)

106 I wish Atkinson could have remained at CBS. We need someone inside. Now she's just getting the Sarah Palin treatment... I wonder if she expected this?

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (9+ccr)

107 All regimes seek to defend their "right to rule." Leftist regimes more so than most.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:48 PM (9W+0f)

108 The Rights total dismissal of anything they call a 'Conspiracy Theory' has always interested me... Because History is inundated with actual conspiracies.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 01:49 PM (84gbM)

109 95 All "intelligent" people know that this is so. Ergo, it is so. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 05:46 PM (9W+0f) Ha. That reminds me of this: ‘What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.’ — Lord Melbourne —

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:49 PM (bb5+k)

110 107 I wish Atkinson could have remained at CBS. We need someone inside. Now she's just getting the Sarah Palin treatment... I wonder if she expected this? --- She knew this kind of thing was coming. They were burying her stories while she was there and, now that she's gone, they're trying to destroy her credibility to minimize anything she comes out with.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 01:50 PM (APuJ7)

111 But, cynical, power-hungry regimes don't believe their own crap. Hillary was probably just being cynical when she was yakking about a vast, Right-wing conspiracy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:51 PM (9W+0f)

112 90 Not that I've noticed...in the last thread someone said they were racist. Unite my pancake layered brothers! Posted by: bonhomme at April 21, 2014 05:44 PM (o4Xc4) Well.... I hate ALL you Humans... but it wasn't me...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 01:51 PM (84gbM)

113 Project much they do.

And I read the sidebar story as Little Green Foosball of Eco-Fascism at first.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 01:51 PM (DlqJm)

114 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc.  Have any of you read this as well?

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 01:52 PM (G+Wff)

115 On the other hand, it's probably best if a conspiracy theorist like Hillary doesn't become President.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:53 PM (9W+0f)

116 The media was completely in the tank for the Dems in 1992 and it was a question as to whether they'd try to put Clinton, Moonbeam Brown, or Paul Tsongas over the top. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 21, 2014 05:48 PM (APuJ7) I remember 1992 very clearly. Every evening news story would start with how bad the economy was, and featuring much footage of people standing in unemployment lines, and factory doors shuttered, businesses closed, etc. The media Kept it up, day after day, and the very next day after the election, Peter Jennings announced "Hey! The recession was over back in March! The Economy is doing great! " I wanted to strangle the bastards back then, because I saw exactly how they manipulated the public with their power.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:53 PM (bb5+k)

117 115 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 05:52 PM (G+Wff) Sure, the Grand KKK Wizard Byrd was most definitely a Republican as was George Wallace and Gore Senior...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 21, 2014 01:54 PM (9+ccr)

118 Being both a woman and a conspiracy theorist, Hillary is probably quite unstable.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:54 PM (9W+0f)

119

Sexual harrassment is only  harrassment if deemed so by the accuser. 

 

The handsome  office stud can flirt and throw out sexual innuendos all day long without fear of more than blushing giggles whereas a not so handsome guy better not even think about lingering near the same persons desks for fear of a harrassement claim. 

 

To the left ,  Clinton and crew are the handsome stud and Republicans are the not so handsome guy's uglier brother. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 01:54 PM (m2CN7)

120 On the other hand, she's a lesbian so that's either better or worse than being a female conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:55 PM (9W+0f)

121 @115 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? Posted by: Cheri _______________ Haven't seen it, but don't underestimate their willingness to completely rewrite history in order to gin up their turnout numbers in November. (Gin? Mmmmmm.)

Posted by: Furious George at April 21, 2014 01:56 PM (yFb77)

122 115I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well?

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 05:52 PM (G+Wff)

 

 

Say the lie enough times, and the stupid people will believe it. 

 

The education and news media will never correct the lies. 

 

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 01:56 PM (N7QgG)

123 More in CAC territory.  Tonight or more accurately in the morning, should see Lyrid Meteor Shower.

http://www.space.com/25568-lyrid-meteor-shower-2014-webcasts.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 21, 2014 01:56 PM (DlqJm)

124 109 The Rights total dismissal of anything they call a 'Conspiracy Theory' has always interested me... Because History is inundated with actual conspiracies. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 05:49 PM (84gbM) A few years ago I saw someone write an article in which they pointed out quite a few actual conspiracies. I wish I had saved a copy of it. I remember the Teapot Dome Scandal, and Tammany Hall, but there were a lot more than that.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 01:56 PM (bb5+k)

125 In 1992  we had the homeless everywhere and then in  January  of 1993  they suddenly disappeared. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 21, 2014 01:56 PM (m2CN7)

126 To the left , Clinton and crew are the handsome stud and Republicans are the not so handsome guy's uglier brother. Posted by: polynikes

The "handsome" guy's brother doesn't have a scorching case of genital warts.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2014 01:57 PM (MNq6o)

127 I"m not understanding how anyone can live through -40 temps, extremely low o2, AND while unconcious, not fall out of the wheel well when the plane drops it's landing gear at what, , 10,000 feet?Posted by: Jen There is a story about a man who disappeared on a summit attempt on Everest in bad weather. He was discovered the next day and when someone reached down to identify his "body" they were shocked to find him semiconscious and alive. They themselves were too weak to take him down the mountain but when they got down to base camp someone went up and got him. He survived over 24 hours at nearly 29,000 ft in a blizzard without oxygen.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 01:57 PM (txAno)

128 The Clinton Administration seems to have been engaging in an "anticonspiratorial" conspiracy.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (9W+0f)

129 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? That's not all. Pubbies are also responsible for the high price of gas and groceries, flat wages and adult illiteracy. The deficit is the Pubbie's fault as well as the declining trust in government. Not to mention dandruff, erectile dysfunction, painful rectal itch and the fact that all children are, apparently, born naked.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (0HooB)

130 Why do you guys cite Althouse? She rarely, if ever, reciprocates the favor. She is also not a conservative (she did vote for Obama).

Posted by: Evi. L. Bloggerlady at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (4kTo2)

131 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub parties switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? Yep, this is an old canard. The other one basically along those lines is that Dems learned their lesson and are now pushing policies that are polar opposite of racist.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (o4Xc4)

132 119 Being both a woman and a conspiracy theorist, Hillary is probably quite unstable. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 05:54 PM (9W+0f) Uh.... the colloquial term "Conspiracy Theory" is based on a belief in a certain set of unprovable ideas... often having an emotional content to the argument... which also engenders a certain amount of paranoia... Which sounds like just about every argument I ever had with the Ex Wife.... Soooooo......

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (84gbM)

133 115 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well?

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 05:52 PM (G+Wff)

++++

If you go to those people and point out that slavery and Jim Crow were policies promoted by the Democrat Party (and fought against by Republicans), they will respond that all those old racist Southern Democrats quit the Democrat Party and became Republicans. So really, it is the Republican Party that is to blame for slavery and Jim Crow.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (IN7k+)

134 He survived over 24 hours at nearly 29,000 ft in a blizzard without oxygen. Posted by: Daybrother

Dr. Beck Weathers,  I presume.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (MNq6o)

135 @115 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? Posted by: Cheri _____________________ Look for my post tomorrow about All You Need to Know About How Republicans Secretly Supported Slavery in 7 Cute Cat Pictures!

Posted by: Ezra Klein at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (yFb77)

136 In the typical Bolshevik manner.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (9W+0f)

137 When I first started reading VRWC sites, Sid Blumenthal was affectionately known as "Sid Vicious". Andrew Sullivan (before he went nuts) reviewed his memoir of his time with the Clintons as a "gospel", with Bill playing the role of Christ. And then there's his son, who as mentioned here is pretty much the next Chomsky in his musings on the Zionist Problem *koff*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 01:58 PM (oerr2)

138 this information super hyway is some spookey stuff man

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at April 21, 2014 01:59 PM (q+zA9)

139

115 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well?

 

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 05:52 PM (G+Wff)

 

-------------

 

Well sure, they try to get away with lying about it like that.

 

But the fact remains...Lincoln was a Republican, and the party of Lincoln was always the one that fought for Civil Rights.

 

Democrat party was the party of 'Slave Owners Rights' and the KKK.

Posted by: wheatie at April 21, 2014 01:59 PM (fAjDo)

140 The Democrats have been trotting out since almost forever. There are some excellent videos debunking this and also some websites on it: http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 01:59 PM (XyM/Y)

141 Say the lie enough times, and the stupid people will believe it. The education and news media will never correct the lies. Posted by: rd at April 21, 2014 05:56 PM (N7QgG) It's worse than that, they are etching their lies/stupidity in stone. https://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/93845-just-abraham-lincoln-democrat/

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 21, 2014 02:00 PM (bb5+k)

142 Nihilists are obsessed with acquiring and maintaining power at any cost.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 02:01 PM (9W+0f)

143 Haven't seen it, but don't underestimate their willingness to completely rewrite history in order to gin up their turnout numbers in November. (Gin? Mmmmmm.) Posted by: Furious George at April 21, 2014 05:56 PM (yFb77) Winston Churchill said it was the Victors who write History... Today, its even better... now its the Pundits and those with an Axe to grind...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 21, 2014 02:01 PM (84gbM)

144

I read Lt. Col. Buzz Patterson's (USAF Ret.) book "Dereliction of Duty".  He was assigned to carry the nuclear football for Clinton for a few years so he had a real insider's view of the Clinton presidency.  One story he told was about one flight on AF1 where Clinton  kept hitting on a female elisted USAF female that was part of the flight crew that served meals, etc.  It got so bad that she went to Lt.Col. Patterson crying and asking him how to make this stop.  Patterson had to tell Clinton's personal cabal to tell him to back off.

 

The guy was/is a real pig.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 02:01 PM (G+Wff)

145 The handsome office stud can flirt and throw out sexual innuendos all day long without fear of more than blushing giggles whereas a not so handsome guy better not even think about lingering near the same persons desks for fear of a harassment claim. Women who throw out the sexy vibe only want guys they're attracted to to receive the sexy vibe. Anyone else is shut down fast. The harassment claim is just the legal weaponization of same.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 21, 2014 02:01 PM (o4Xc4)

146 The KKK did not outlaw the Catholic Church in Mexico. (Read: "all Christians".) President Calles did. If you could get the Knights of Columbus and a KKK to unite.... The most faithful voting block in U.S. electoral history, even more so than secular ethnic Jews emigrated from the Commie areas of Europe: "There's no such thing as a liberal. A liberal is a Commie with a college education, thinking negro thoughts." --"The Rum Diary" (2011)

Posted by: Nope. Just nope. at April 21, 2014 02:02 PM (1/4XQ)

147 Whitewash-The racist history the Democrat party wants you to forget: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB122513867582273213

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 02:02 PM (XyM/Y)

148 Teapot Dome wasn't a very successful conspiracy. Tammany Hall is literally studied in poli sci courses. I know because we had to read Plunkett in mine.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 21, 2014 02:02 PM (oerr2)

149

Conspiracies?   There's no such thing in this day age.  I repeat.   There are no  conspiracies.  All we're seeing is blatant cooperation between the media and the WH, or between the WH and  those responsible for elections.  There  is also no conspiracy between the WH and the various alphabet agencies.  Nope.  None.

 

To say otherwise is just crazy talk. 

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 02:03 PM (cu9Nx)

150 I quit on Althouse after she went through her no-comments phrase. It was always he same, but still decent conversation, varied topics, etc., but then it was all about the Mean Girls/Boys, all day, every day. Boring as a kegger at the Romneys. Still, she outdid every media outlet on the planet with her Madison shitshow coverage.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 02:03 PM (ZshNr)

151 To say otherwise is just crazy talk.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2014 06:03 PM (cu9Nx)

 

so true, that is what I'm talking about

Posted by: The NSA at April 21, 2014 02:04 PM (q+zA9)

152 Because Empathy. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 21, 2014 02:05 PM (9W+0f)

153 Newd.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 21, 2014 02:06 PM (0HooB)

154 Phase, and the.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2014 02:06 PM (ZshNr)

155 Why is this long rumored? I thought it was all out in the early 90s.

Posted by: blaster at April 21, 2014 02:06 PM (4+AaH)

156 I've noticed on different blogs that the progs are claiming that the Dem and Repub partys switched and it was the Republicans that championed slavery, fought against the Civil Rights acts, etc. etc. Have any of you read this as well? Posted by: Cheri That has been going on for several years. When Obama got into office big factions of the Left went full on propaganda: rewrite history as it is happening while changing history as it was previously written. Read the Common Core text books that actually rewrite the Bill of Rights. Lately there have been lots of talking points about how "The Affordable Care act was designed by the Heritage Foundation" and of course how its "free market" principles were pushed by the Republicans. All complete fabrications but I've seen Dems actually say that with a straight face on the Network News shows. We live in a banana republic. All we're missing is a goofy uniform on King Barack.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 02:07 PM (1RcJ8)

157 Sure, the Grand KKK Wizard Byrd was most definitely a Republican as was George Wallace and Gore Senior...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna

 

Yep.  I remind these LIVs that it was an old, white, retired General, President Eisenhower that drafted the most comprehensive Civil Rights Bill but LBJ (A Senator) told DE that Southern Democrats would never vote for it as it gave TOO MANY rights to blacks and the bill needed to be watered down.  They don't teach this little nugget of history in most schools.

Posted by: Cheri at April 21, 2014 02:07 PM (G+Wff)

158 Did we ever get to see William Jefferson Blythe III ('s) birth certificate? 

I just know that sucker of poontang-dipped cigars has some undiscovered filth in his sordid past.

Posted by: Fritz at April 21, 2014 02:08 PM (oJUxt)

159 Dems: Internet for me but not for thee. And they think that NSA, or the fear of it, will police it for them.

Posted by: Decaf at April 21, 2014 02:09 PM (ilbeM)

160 And here's on on the history that I particularly like by a black conservative Frantz Kebreau? It's not long and I like the soundtrack: Click on "Stolen History" http://www.frantzkebreau.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 02:09 PM (XyM/Y)

161 Sorry; The link I posted was the video of the man taking about his research. The is the actual short video with the banjo soundtrack: http://tinyurl.com/k4hkqkn

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2014 02:12 PM (XyM/Y)

162 So Al Gore is the inventor of the very system that will destroy the Demoncrat Party?

Sweet..

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 21, 2014 02:14 PM (5UteM)

163 Dr. Beck Weathers, I presume. Posted by: Dang -----yeah. It's been a few years since I read Into Thin Air but I think i got the gist of the story right.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 21, 2014 02:16 PM (Xo44i)

164 saturday pm i flicked on the h2 channel, for "america's book of secrets, presidential assassins" it had the usual, jw boothe, lh oswald, hinkley, et al but then they flashed an old black and white family photo of the bush clan. the pic had about 20 bush family members, all recognizible in a nice familial setting. the narrator said there were rumors that old george hw bush had put the hit out on reagan. h2 used that family photo to suggest all the bush's were in on it.

Posted by: Puncher at April 21, 2014 02:20 PM (wvCkw)

165 I well remember the campaign against Scaife. I mentioned it here a few weeks ago I think in a post about the Kochs. The thinking was Scaife financed a constellation of right wing organizations including World Net Daily (that's Farah). One Christopher Ruddy worked for Farah and he wrote a thick book about Vince Foster's death.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2014 02:59 PM (oFCZn)

166 This is very interesting. But in the end. They have a militantly political press that they use to shove their leftism down American's throats. And it seems there is NOTHING we can do to stop them. If paranoia is the root of the loss of our freedom... we need more than that. We need to know what we can do to stop them from ruining our lives forever like they are right now.

Posted by: petunia at April 21, 2014 05:45 PM (DAcBA)

167

Meh, I was in a USENET group back then called Alt.Current.Events.Clinton.Whitewater .

 

Hillary! called everyone members of "The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" or VRWC for short. Much fun was had at her expense.

Posted by: Gmac at April 21, 2014 09:18 PM (4pjhs)

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