January 20, 2010
— DrewM Major Garrett from FNC interviewed David Axelrod and it sounds like they are coming to grips with reality.
Axelrod said the White House doesn't want any Senate action on health care until Brown is seated."I think it would be inappropriate," Axelrod said. "I think the people of Massachusetts would consider it inappropriate, and that's something we won't do."
Late Tuesday, Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., called on the Senate to stop all health care legislation until Brown is seated. Axelrod's was the first signal that the White House agreed.
So no back door deal to jam this through in the next week or two and definitely nothing for Obama to sign at the State of the Union (which was talked about as a bit of theater at one point).
I don't want to say it but what the hell...it's dead. They will have to reconstruct the whole thing now and no one is going to have the stomach to deal with it. There's too many moving parts that were essentially irreconcilable before and in this political climate, it's now impossible.
Nearly every House Democrat and a bunch in the Senate are going to be going into survival mode for the next 10 months. Shoving this pile of shit across the finish line is not part of their new plan.
Not sure what the official signal for Waterloo is going to be but it's time to get the band warmed up.
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We tried to save your lives, but the Rethuglicans wouldn't let us. It is a statistical fact that one hundred years from now, those of you reading this will all all be DEAD.
Posted by: arhooley at January 20, 2010 10:53 AM (6GjHP)
Posted by: Shtetl G at January 20, 2010 10:54 AM (s2Bbk)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 10:54 AM (kmgIE)
Posted by: ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 10:54 AM (NPtVh)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2010 10:54 AM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 20, 2010 10:55 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 10:56 AM (NPtVh)
Posted by: kefka at January 20, 2010 10:56 AM (n1uMU)
We need to hit the reset button, and write concrete controls on the power WE ALLOW THEM.
Because without us THEY HAVE NO POWER.
Remember that.
This is FUCKING AMERICA.
NOT the fucking Soviet Union.
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 10:57 AM (hA5JK)
Time to set our sights on the next collection of scalps.
Like this C-word, right here.
(in video)
Posted by: lauraw at January 20, 2010 10:57 AM (WWAXb)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff's Hairy Beanbag at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: RichieD at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (OL981)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (Xsi7M)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (kmgIE)
Posted by: Slublog at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (qjKko)
Debbie Wassermann Schultz needs to follow her right after.
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 10:58 AM (hA5JK)
Posted by: RushBabe at January 20, 2010 10:59 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 10:59 AM (NPtVh)
Which old witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong, the Wicked Witch is dead!
I'll sing that if (when?) Barbara Boxer is un-elected in November.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 20, 2010 11:00 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: enoxo at January 20, 2010 11:01 AM (eXWg4)
Posted by: maddogg at January 20, 2010 11:01 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: kefka at January 20, 2010 11:01 AM (n1uMU)
Somebody said in another thread that the Pubs really need to hammer their own proposals for health care reform, in as many ways as possible, for the next ten months. Keep proposing actual bills on both the House and Senate floors, and make these Donk Douchebags vote them down. Then keep talking about how its the Dems stopping real reform, because their commie style takeover didn't take.
Who knows, by mid-summer, perhaps enough Donks will realize they're fucked, electionarily speaking, and will vote for a rational overhaul of the system proposed by the Pubs, rather than continuing to whine about how their shit sandwich was so great, but not passed because of evil Repubs.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 20, 2010 11:01 AM (Zj8fM)
OMG, he is on ABC news saying that the people are angry because of what has happened over the last 8 years. Sooooo, they elected a republican to Teddy's upside down underwater seat?
Mmmmm, Mmm, Mm Barak Hussein Obama--You are
Posted by: dagny at January 20, 2010 11:02 AM (1d/Kt)
Now is the time to hold a solidarity line ON OUR SIDE.
RINOs want bipartisanship in order to show thems are doing something should be warned.
Posted by: always right at January 20, 2010 11:02 AM (Wqfrr)
Debbie Wassermann Schultz needs to follow her right after.
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 02:58 PM (hA5JK)
Oooo, ooo, can we put Maxine "I'll tel you what this liberal is all about. This liberal is all about nationalizing --- uh" Waters at the head of the line?
Posted by: RushBabe at January 20, 2010 11:03 AM (LKkE8)
Just saw a pic on Fox with Reid sucking on a microphone, Dodd and fucking Al Franken standing behind him.
With a party of such fucking winners....
Why the fuck are we losing?
I want to know!
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 11:04 AM (hA5JK)
Oooo, ooo, can we put Maxine "I'll tel you what this liberal is all about. This liberal is all about nationalizing --- uh" Waters at the head of the line?
Posted by: RushBabeHon, I think she was saying 'Socializing' before she caught herself.
But she has to go too, lol.
See my post #34
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 11:05 AM (hA5JK)
Now is the time to hold a solidarity line ON OUR SIDE.
RINOs want bipartisanship in order to show thems are doing something should be warned.
Posted by: always right at January 20, 2010 03:02 PM (Wqfrr)
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but Hottie McAwesome said in his speech last night that he would work across party lines.
Posted by: RushBabe at January 20, 2010 11:06 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 11:06 AM (kmgIE)
Ummm...I'm not sure this is a waterloo moment. Axelrod cautions against "SENATE ACTION" specifically. The Senate doesn't need to do anything to pass the bill that's already been passed. The House can just pass the Senate version.
Whether the House will act is another issue, but Axelrod said nothing about the House, and you can't parse the statements of these snakes too carefully.
Posted by: mjhlaw at January 20, 2010 11:07 AM (n+z1b)
Oooo, ooo, can we put Maxine "I'll tel you what this liberal is all about. This liberal is all about nationalizing --- uh" Waters at the head of the line?
Unfortunately, her ghetto district, made up of the same wonderful people who almost killed Reginald Denny, will send her back ad nauseum. It is possible, however, that the "browning" of her district could force her to retire soon.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 20, 2010 11:07 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: buzzion at January 20, 2010 11:08 AM (oVQFe)
That's all well and good, but this legislation doesn't require any Senate action and Granny's comments sound like the message has not been received at all in the House. If she can strongarm 218 votes then she'll do it, the American people, the White House, and the Senate be damned. And frankly, I think Obama would be happy for her to do it. He doesn't care about anything or anyone but himself.
One more thing, this election makes me despise people like Landrieu, Lincoln, Nelson, Bayh, McCaskill, and Webb even more. Cowards, the lot of them.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at January 20, 2010 11:08 AM (sXLx/)
If I were a 'Blue Dog' pressured by either of them, my reply would be 'Fuck off or I'll cross the fucking aisle.'
Posted by: nickless at January 20, 2010 11:10 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Hammer at January 20, 2010 11:10 AM (GkYyh)
Posted this below, but I had on Fox News and Shepard Smith just stated what is going to be claimed a lot: "He didn't even run as a Republican."
Joe Scarborough said the same thing this morning.
Posted by: Mal at January 20, 2010 11:11 AM (Z+qzA)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 11:11 AM (kmgIE)
Posted by: Mortis at January 20, 2010 11:11 AM (hA5JK)
Posted by: Kanye West at January 20, 2010 11:11 AM (PhPag)
41 -- Beck commented on this too, as related to making both parties sweat. Brown was elected by indies, not by those with concrete ties to either party. The other nifty thing he mentioned was that Obozo never says the word "democrat" anymore. It's all progressive, all the time. "The progressives are fighting the republicans."
Beck is looking for a cage match between older-style dems/liberals and the batshite-crazy progressives.
Posted by: RushBabe at January 20, 2010 11:11 AM (LKkE8)
The blood sucking rats were startled by a ray of sunshine. But, they are still blood sucking rats. More wooden stakes!
Posted by: Flying Monkey at January 20, 2010 11:12 AM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 20, 2010 11:13 AM (ujg0T)
(And Valerie Jarrett and Michelle.)
Think of that final scene in Notorious, when they say "Come in here, Alex. We'd like a word with you," and Claude Rains goes up the steps in a foggy evening to his doom.
Posted by: arhooley at January 20, 2010 11:13 AM (6GjHP)
Yes, it sounds real good but watch what tghey do. We have said this over and over. They are ALL huge liars.
What their actions not their rhetoric.
Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2010 11:13 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 11:16 AM (kmgIE)
MA Senate Election Starting To Get Through At White House?
Which rule are we on in Alinsky's book?
/uh, no. Leopards don't change their spots....A marxist won't....
Posted by: always right at January 20, 2010 11:18 AM (Wqfrr)
Yeah, umm, I think they're getting it in private even if they continue to denounce the referendum publicly.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 20, 2010 11:18 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 03:16 PM (kmgIE)
I know that he ran as a Republican.
I voted for him.
My point was that Scarborough is a douche.
Posted by: Mal at January 20, 2010 11:20 AM (Z+qzA)
Posted by: mystry at January 20, 2010 11:25 AM (kmgIE)
Posted by: Jean at January 20, 2010 11:26 AM (pIKTP)
I can't remember who it was but His Holiness had a private meeting with a Republican senator a few days ago. It makes me wonder if he was able to buy that guy off in order to get his vote, thus still securing his 60 votes AND say it was bi-partisan. I hope that is not the case but crazier things have happened and it would explain the reaction of Pelosi, Reid and The One. Pelosi can stay the dominatrix in the House and push push push. Meanwhile, Reid and The One can take the supposed high road saying, "wait until Brown is sworn in." Does that make me a conspiracy nut?
Posted by: brian448 at January 20, 2010 11:26 AM (JLnCH)
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but Hottie McAwesome said in his speech last night that he would work across party lines.
Posted by: RushBabe----------------
He was also very gracious about Ted Kennedy.
I took it as "If Dems will act like grown-ups, I'll let bygones be bygones." He probably won't have to make good on that offer.
Posted by: arhooley at January 20, 2010 11:26 AM (6GjHP)
It's a trick. Beware of the sidestep after Brown is seated.
Posted by: dogfish at January 20, 2010 11:27 AM (H4okq)
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at January 20, 2010 11:33 AM (k5nPY)
Posted by: vinman at January 20, 2010 11:38 AM (HOYRo)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 20, 2010 11:40 AM (usjNq)
Good god I hope nothing dangerous happens for the next three years.
Posted by: doug at January 20, 2010 11:42 AM (jCwj+)
Meanwhile, on a progressive friend's Facebook page below his post "thinks Maryland Democrats should plan for the November elections now" I read this comment from one of his friends:
"Time to get very busy. Make the Republicans wish they had died at birth. Time to go to war."
I guess he didn't hear Axelrod's comments or notice that it was the INDEPENDENTS (and some Dems), not the Republicans, who elected Scott Brown.
Morons.
Posted by: Y-not at January 20, 2010 11:42 AM (sey23)
Posted by: Corncob Supporter at January 20, 2010 11:59 AM (ktYjH)
Well done Massatchusetts and congratulations from very conservative Alberta. NOW YOU CAN MAKE SOME BUCKS LIKE WE DO.
Posted by: chicocano at January 20, 2010 12:06 PM (2n5cq)
Frankly, as soon as Webb or any other Democratic Senator proclaimed "no more ObamaCare votes until Brown is sworn," the White House had no choice but to echo the sentiment because they were back to 59 votes (not even considering the Constitutional point: whether Brown was sworn or not, Kirk's tenure ENDED with the election, PERIOD) anyway.
I love it that Obama seems to want to tap into that anti-Obama spirit: "It's the same frustration that swept ME into office . . ." Heh, AS IF. What swept the prancing, preening peacock into the Presidency was typical voter fatigue after 8 years of one party in the White House (in the last 100 years, only G.H.W.Bush was able to break that trend) combined with a huge influx of new young and ignorant voters who a) thought it would be "pretty cool to elect a black dude" and b) saw no need for experience at anything, since they themselves feel well qualified to start at the top of any given field, too.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 20, 2010 12:39 PM (jmoP/)
"It's not that the Democrats are playing checkers and the Republicans are playing chess. It's that the Republicans are playing chess and the Democrats are in the nurse's office because once again they glued their balls to their thighs."
That right there is a great example of why it's so important to catch up on the threads when one has been forced to step away from the computer to attend to life's little necessities (beer and cig run, actually). Great catch, Empire of Jeff!
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2010 01:03 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Jean at January 20, 2010 03:26 PM (pIKTP)
He's not dead, is he? Seems like I would have heard about that, living in El Lay and all.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2010 01:15 PM (9Wv2j)
The leftists are going to keep that poor chicken pretty busy between now and Nov
Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 20, 2010 02:18 PM (ZURno)
You guys are back with the stupid Eeyore shit already?
At least read the whole fucking story before you post. It was Voinovich, and afterwards he told the press basically "nice lunch, but I'm not that stupid".
Posted by: someone at January 20, 2010 04:55 PM (njJQD)
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