April 17, 2014
— Ace "This is the aging of the dawn of Aquarius."
I heard a lot of that kind of talk during my battles with the Canadian ‘human rights’ commissions a few years ago: of course, we all believe in free speech, but it’s a question of how you ‘strike the balance’, where you ‘draw the line’… which all sounds terribly reasonable and Canadian, and apparently Australian, too. But in reality the point of free speech is for the stuff that’s over the line, and strikingly unbalanced. If free speech is only for polite persons of mild temperament within government-policed parameters, it isn’t free at all. So screw that.But I don’t really think that many people these days are genuinely interested in ‘striking the balance’; they’ve drawn the line and they’re increasingly unashamed about which side of it they stand. What all the above stories have in common, whether nominally about Israel, gay marriage, climate change, Islam, or even freedom of the press, is that one side has cheerfully swapped that apocryphal Voltaire quote about disagreeing with what you say but defending to the death your right to say it for the pithier Ring Lardner line: ‘“Shut up,” he explained.’
A generation ago, progressive opinion at least felt obliged to pay lip service to the Voltaire shtick. These days, nobody’s asking you to defend yourself to the death: a mildly supportive retweet would do. But even that’s further than most of those in the academy, the arts, the media are prepared to go. As Erin Ching, a student at 60-grand-a-year Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania, put it in her college newspaper the other day: ‘What really bothered me is the whole idea that at a liberal arts college we need to be hearing a diversity of opinion.’ Yeah, who needs that? There speaks the voice of a generation: celebrate diversity by enforcing conformity.
I actually noticed this story on Twitchy, because a left-leaning comic, Patton Oswald, approvingly retweeted the link, stating he agreed with the general thrust, and for that blasphemy, was then set upon by the zealous inquisitors of the Holy Universal Unification Church of Shut Up.
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:00 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 17, 2014 04:00 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 17, 2014 04:00 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: The Ad Council at April 17, 2014 04:02 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 17, 2014 04:02 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2014 04:02 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: eman at April 17, 2014 04:03 PM (QwcE2)
We have provided Free Speech Zones for people to voice their concerns.
But there can be no more that 25 people in these zones at any time.
Posted by: BLM at April 17, 2014 04:03 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 17, 2014 04:03 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: petunia at April 17, 2014 04:03 PM (DAcBA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Now Posting From Chrome at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (0q2P7)
Questioning my judgement of what is and what isn't fit for free speech is proof that you must be silenced!
Posted by: Every Leftie You Know [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: joeindc44 at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (DTVYh)
Posted by: The Ad Council at April 17, 2014 04:04 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2014 04:05 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Barack Obama (Approves This Message) at April 17, 2014 04:06 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Caliban at April 17, 2014 04:07 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 04:07 PM (WhJf8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:08 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 17, 2014 04:08 PM (L02KD)
Porn was deemed to be 'free speech'.
And burning the Flag...that's declared 'free speech'.
But speaking out against the tyranny of our Government Betters?
"You're a domestic terrorist!"
Posted by: wheatie at April 17, 2014 04:08 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:08 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 17, 2014 04:08 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: MikeinGa at April 17, 2014 04:10 PM (psVAq)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:10 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 04:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Seems legit at April 17, 2014 04:11 PM (Q6g1g)
Hahahaha the very commenters here who want to insist on their fealty to free speech are the first to appoint themselves humorcop
Watch and learn.
Usually I allow the host to determine the rules in his home
Posted by: Mr. Confusion at April 17, 2014 04:12 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:13 PM (nqBYe)
37 Meaning that this is not just a problem that those people over there are having contrary to popular hubris
Posted by: Mr. Confusion at April 17, 2014 04:13 PM (b7yum)
Even if they acquired backbones, assholes like McCain, always looking for an opportunity to reach across the aisle and preen to the media, will undermine them.
At this point, I don't see any difference at the national level. I'll either sit it out or vote Democrat to speed up the burnening.
Posted by: butch at April 17, 2014 04:14 PM (m12IB)
Posted by: Mr. Confusion
I'm sure Ace appreciates your generosity.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 04:14 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 17, 2014 04:15 PM (ZALPg)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:15 PM (nqBYe)
38 That comment is a self-contradiction, tho perhaps the poster isn't smart enough to realize it
Hahahahaha
Posted by: Mr. Confusion at April 17, 2014 04:15 PM (b7yum)
Burning the flag is in NO WAY an expression of free speech.
It IS willful and malicious desecration of our national symbol, and by extension a denial of the country itself.
Don't bother advancing any arguments to the contrary, they will fall on deaf ears.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 17, 2014 04:16 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2014 04:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 04:17 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 17, 2014 04:17 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:17 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soothie at April 17, 2014 04:18 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: Mr. Confusion at April 17, 2014 08:15 PM (b7yum)
You're sounding even more menstrual today than usual, DAve.
Here...have a midol.
Posted by: wheatie at April 17, 2014 04:18 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 17, 2014 04:19 PM (IAe6t)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2014 04:19 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Hillary! at April 17, 2014 04:19 PM (IdOTf)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2014 04:20 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 17, 2014 04:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 17, 2014 04:21 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 17, 2014 04:21 PM (IdOTf)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:22 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at April 17, 2014 04:22 PM (uopHF)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2014 04:23 PM (JdEZJ)
I knew this deranged woman, well she was nice for a bit, who headed up this bicycling non-profit thing.
She definitely did not believe in free speech once she found out she was near conservatives.
Not in the least.
The country is being run by Communists, lunatics, pederasts and mentally deranged racists.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at April 17, 2014 04:23 PM (HQml1)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:24 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2014 04:24 PM (ewW8H)
--
Don't you want to wait for the 2016 Prince Charming? O'Reilly just showed a Fox poll on the R frontrunners as asked to "registered Republicans." It went something like this:
Chris Christie - 15%
Jeb Bush - 14%
Rand Paul and everyone else less than the above RINOs
Really? Really
/so screwed...so very screwed
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 17, 2014 04:25 PM (tsGZY)
Posted by: Seems legit at April 17, 2014 04:25 PM (Q6g1g)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 17, 2014 04:26 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: mrp at April 17, 2014 04:26 PM (JBggj)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2014 04:26 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2014 04:26 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 04:27 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 04:27 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2014 04:27 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soothie at April 17, 2014 04:28 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 17, 2014 04:28 PM (tAHGM)
Posted by: The modern left at April 17, 2014 04:28 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 17, 2014 04:28 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Emanuel Cleaver at April 17, 2014 04:29 PM (thLL8)
Posted by: Guido at April 17, 2014 04:30 PM (GYg/s)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 04:30 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Soothie at April 17, 2014 04:30 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 04:31 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 17, 2014 04:33 PM (IAe6t)
Posted by: freaked at April 17, 2014 04:34 PM (JdEZJ)
Can I get an AMEN?
AMEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU
Posted by: Retread at April 17, 2014 04:34 PM (cHwk5)
Posted by: Guido at April 17, 2014 04:34 PM (GYg/s)
Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at April 17, 2014 04:34 PM (Xed9r)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis
Me neither but even a stopped up bear shits squirrels in the woods twice a day.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 04:35 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 17, 2014 04:35 PM (Xxe5U)
Posted by: awkward davies at April 17, 2014 04:35 PM (whqez)
Posted by: Claire Cloggenstein, of the California Cloggensteins at April 17, 2014 04:36 PM (uopHF)
There are certain statements which, had they appeared as dialogue in a satirical novel forty years ago, would have been considered too far over the top, hamfisted, insufficiently subtle.
Now such comments are the daily reality of our lives.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 17, 2014 04:37 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at April 17, 2014 04:37 PM (Xed9r)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 17, 2014 04:40 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Guido at April 17, 2014 04:41 PM (GYg/s)
Posted by: Diversity commissar at April 17, 2014 04:41 PM (75hfB)
I've said this a million times, on this very site:
Liberals do not believe that there are such things as "opinions." There are facts and there are falsehoods, and all their world-views are based on their "facts."
So to argue against Liberalism is to argue against "facts." And who can argue against "facts"? Only benighted fools. And who argues with fools?
That's why Liberals become so enraged when people disagree with them--according to the Liberal, the opposer is either lying or stupid.
That's also why Liberals see absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever to using power to crush conservative opinions. After all, they "reason," if you found out your child's math teacher was teaching 2 + 2= 5, you would fight so he could no longer teach such lies, right? That's exactly what Liberals believe they are doing, and why they fight so hard against any ideas that aren't "Liberal."
Liberalism is a form of mental disease. They themselves prove this every single day.
Posted by: Null at April 17, 2014 04:42 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at April 17, 2014 04:43 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 17, 2014 04:43 PM (thLL8)
Posted by: alexthechick
AOSHQ Commandment MXXIVI:
Yea, verily I say unto thee, compose thy thoughts on a Pad for Notes, and thou whilst not curse browsers which art known to be wiggy and generally a potential disaster that will only produce barrels of failure.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 04:43 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at April 17, 2014 04:44 PM (Xed9r)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 17, 2014 04:44 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 17, 2014 04:45 PM (ua1Yo)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: awkward davies at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (whqez)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (ua1Yo)
A civil war unlike any other civil war in history: It's already started, and there will be many, many casualties.
Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( your grandfather's Dave Clark Five fan ) at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (JyjXt)
Is the 'third finger salute' a form of Free Speech?
Because the cowboys and supporters of the Bundy family were certainly using that particular hand signal a lot last weekend.
Which is probably one of the things that pissed off Dirty Hairy Reed.
Posted by: wheatie at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: Homosexual Child Rapist at April 17, 2014 04:46 PM (W7zKe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 04:47 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Jmel at April 17, 2014 04:47 PM (cfFqn)
Padre threw one of those into the homily the other week. I was not spiritually comforted.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 17, 2014 04:48 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 17, 2014 04:48 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at April 17, 2014 04:49 PM (Xed9r)
Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( your grandfather's Dave Clark Five fan ) at April 17, 2014 04:49 PM (JyjXt)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 04:49 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: God Knows What Child Rapist at April 17, 2014 04:50 PM (W7zKe)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 17, 2014 04:50 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 04:50 PM (mizYg)
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Leftists have been fighting the non-Leftist "monster" (which they equate with Nazism) in their own heads for so long, they've become monsters themselves. The opposite of a Nazi is still Nazi-esque.
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzche at April 17, 2014 04:51 PM (QTyrZ)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2014 04:52 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 17, 2014 04:53 PM (ua1Yo)
Posted by: alexthechick - c'mon SMOD at April 17, 2014 04:54 PM (Xed9r)
Posted by: Synova at April 17, 2014 04:54 PM (7/PU+)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 17, 2014 04:54 PM (W7zKe)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 04:55 PM (zOTsN)
I wonder if this would cause Patton to revisit some of his other liberal leanings. Its happened before after all.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2014 04:55 PM (BrAHD)
Posted by: Adriane... at April 17, 2014 04:56 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 04:57 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2014 04:58 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: Guido at April 17, 2014 04:58 PM (GYg/s)
Posted by: Bubba at April 17, 2014 04:58 PM (PDkNw)
Posted by: The Hollywood Soviet at April 17, 2014 04:59 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 17, 2014 04:59 PM (W7zKe)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:00 PM (zOTsN)
126 Why did I even post that story? Halfway through typing it, I forgot the reason. Oh well. C'est la vie. It was interesting nonetheless!
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 08:50 PM (mizYg)
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Yep. It was interesting.
Btw, zombie...do you think it was also interesting that the moon-worshiping muzzie Al Qaeda folks staged that convention in Yemen on the very day of that 'Blood Moon' eclipse?
I mean...was that meant for us? Or was it meant for their followers.
Or was it just a big-assed coincidence, that they did it on the Blood Moon day.
Posted by: wheatie at April 17, 2014 05:00 PM (fAjDo)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 17, 2014 05:00 PM (1UzRc)
Posted by: The homonymic IRS... at April 17, 2014 05:00 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Burt Toste at April 17, 2014 05:01 PM (DYDUy)
Posted by: Typo dynamofo at April 17, 2014 05:01 PM (IVgIK)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 05:02 PM (HVff2)
>>And "their own" are always surprised when it happens to them.
They don't wise up and jump out of the spiral. They weren't thinking rationally to begin with, so why start now? The whole ugly mess keeps moving farther left and anybody who doesn't keep up is beaten down. Same thing happened in the young USSR, at a much faster pace. The only way to stop it is to pull a Stalin and kill everyone left of you before they kill you.
Posted by: kartoffel at April 17, 2014 05:02 PM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: Synova
All it would take for a wayward True Believer to be let back into fold is for the True Believer to denounce another leftie caught not toeing the line.
Semi O/T: Wheaton's appreciation for his own intellect is only outmatched by our Ear Leader's appreciation for his own.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 05:02 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: Guido at April 17, 2014 05:02 PM (GYg/s)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 17, 2014 05:03 PM (HVff2)
you are Sandra Fluke's gynocologist
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 09:00 PM (zOTsN)"
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Or Andy Sullivan's proctologist
Posted by: Eternally-recurring Zombie Nietzche at April 17, 2014 05:04 PM (QTyrZ)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:09 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Richard Simmons [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 17, 2014 05:09 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Westies Rule!!! at April 17, 2014 05:12 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 17, 2014 05:14 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:14 PM (zOTsN)
Leftists only believe in free speech in which they agree. Otherwise, you must die! look at the venom in that twitchy link. I remember way back when I was in college, well before obama, that the campus left bullies always showed up to shout down conservatives.
But there have been some pretty famous people that have been moved from well left to the right side after being the brunt of the lefts attacks.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2014 05:14 PM (BrAHD)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:14 PM (mizYg)
They have been trying to replicate 1964 for the last 50 years, and the fucking Nazis can't figure out why they can't.
[How's the neighborhood around Heinz and San Pablo? I have a niece working there this summer....]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 05:15 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 17, 2014 05:15 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Slapnutz at April 17, 2014 05:18 PM (G610p)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:18 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:18 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Jen at April 17, 2014 05:19 PM (OPPHX)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 17, 2014 05:22 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 05:22 PM (84gbM)
" a plane, owned by the Bank of Utah, a community bank in Ogden that has 13 branches throughout the state. Bearing a small American flag on its tail, the aircraft was parked in a highly visible section of Mehrabad Airport in Tehran."
NYTimes link
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 05:22 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: Jen at April 17, 2014 05:22 PM (OPPHX)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:23 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:23 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Slapnutz at April 17, 2014 05:24 PM (G610p)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 05:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Naes1984 at April 17, 2014 05:24 PM (LiHKo)
I gotta get off this planet, I think if I leave for that new Earth-like planet thats been discovered I should be able to make dinner time in 490 light years
It looks nice according to the artists depiction what with the trees and blue sky and all.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2014 05:25 PM (BrAHD)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:26 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jen at April 17, 2014 05:26 PM (OPPHX)
Conservative Riding Orca @ 59 - intrigued by your comment re Dem governor's race and backlash from the treatment of Joe the Plumber.
I'll bet I'm not the only one here for whom the entire Joe incident - from (of course) the "press" to the state govt. outing his personal info, etc. - was actually one of the deeply disturbing and discouraging events (among many) of 2008. It would provide microscopic and probably only symbolic reassurance of a sort if there were, in fact, a backlash.
The treatment of Palin, the immediate coarsening of official behavior/ditching of modern responsible standards ("I'm the only one between them and the pitchforks"), the mau-mauing of bank officers (at their homes) ....... jeebus the US seemed to descend, almost instantly, into a rough Third World country where politics is barely removed from tribal/gang conflict.
With, of course (and AFAIK), not a peep of protest or criticism from any adult (commentator, corporate, GOP ..... Democrat - and I note that since I believe such behavior just a few years earlier would have in fact been met with quite a bit of condemnation from all sides).
Posted by: non-purist at April 17, 2014 05:26 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: navybrat at April 17, 2014 05:27 PM (JgC5a)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 17, 2014 05:27 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:28 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:28 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: Piercello at April 17, 2014 05:29 PM (jJ97i)
Yeah. Well the problem with that is that if the "valuing" is mandatory, then it's really not.
And that's where they've crossed the line.
When they demand, and use the power of the Government to enforce that demand, that they be respected without earning it, then they've lost and the only answer to them then is the continued repression of those that will not bend to their demands.
And at some point people react.
It will not be pleasant unless somehow certain "communities" do not ratchet back their rhetoric and begin actually earning the respect that they crave.
Demanding respect never works. Never has, never will.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 17, 2014 05:30 PM (JS0vr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 05:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:31 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:32 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 05:32 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Naes1984 at April 17, 2014 05:33 PM (LiHKo)
Posted by: Claire Cloggenstein, of the California Cloggensteins at April 17, 2014 05:35 PM (uopHF)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:36 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:36 PM (zh9tu)
Yeah.
Why are scientists wasting time "guessing" (and it's really a guess) about where and what planets exist elsewhere?
I see No, zero , nada use for this information and plenty of reasons to not waste time and money on it.
Is it just pablum to feed the populus as a distraction?
I'm tired of hearing about it.
Tell me what's going on somewhere that we could reach in a human's lifetime.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 17, 2014 05:36 PM (JS0vr)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2014 05:37 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 17, 2014 05:37 PM (qIFL7)
Posted by: thunderb at April 17, 2014 05:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2014 05:38 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:39 PM (zh9tu)
I like it. It's got a beat and you can dance to it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 17, 2014 08:00 PM (oFCZn)
Your wish is my command
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyy_yiZ-3DY
Posted by: The Happenin Church of the Holy Obama Selfie at April 17, 2014 05:39 PM (whMsz)
More proof (huge pile by now) that in the real life game of who goes Nazi? these attackers of Patton Oswald will be some of the first.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2014 05:41 PM (BrAHD)
I looked at some lofts in that neighborhood, before I left the Bay Area. It was becoming hip, but I wanted to make sure.
Thanks.
And...if you need a costume designer, i have the perfect person for you....if you can handle her sarcasm.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 05:41 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2014 05:41 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Naes1984
Some researchers think a few hours in a centrifuge will overcome a portion of the bone loss.
The bigger problems include radiation, muscle loss, kidney stones, inner ear dysfunction, balance problems, neural degradation, etc.
Intra-system travel and residence is an overwhelming enterprise. I'm not convinced either that it's possible short of conscience-to-machine exchange.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 05:42 PM (ujux6)
Posted by: eman at April 17, 2014 05:42 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: People Corporation at April 17, 2014 05:44 PM (pf+hU)
Posted by: eman at April 17, 2014 05:44 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Aviator at April 17, 2014 05:44 PM (3rrMW)
Posted by: eman at April 17, 2014 05:45 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2014 05:45 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:46 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 05:47 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 17, 2014 05:47 PM (ojnk6)
I hope your dick falls off.
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 05:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 05:49 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Naes1984 at April 17, 2014 05:49 PM (LiHKo)
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Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 05:51 PM (84gbM)
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Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:52 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 05:52 PM (nqBYe)
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Posted by: People Corporation at April 17, 2014 05:53 PM (pf+hU)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 05:53 PM (nqBYe)
They are...they just aren't your friends.
And that speaks well of you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 05:53 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: willow
Yes, the key to changing the path ahead is the ability to change people's minds.
Oh, you wanted the exact method to achieve that?
That'll be (pinky to mouth) one BEELION dollars!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 17, 2014 05:53 PM (ujux6)
Stop being an asshole. Or a troll.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 05:54 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 17, 2014 05:55 PM (zAEzA)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 05:56 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: People Corporation at April 17, 2014 05:56 PM (pf+hU)
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Posted by: People Corporation at April 17, 2014 05:57 PM (pf+hU)
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Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 17, 2014 05:58 PM (vA2UI)
Posted by: troyriser at April 17, 2014 05:58 PM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 05:58 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 17, 2014 05:58 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: OK, thanks, bye, old sock at April 17, 2014 05:59 PM (uopHF)
You and I are grown-up enough to understand the difference between innuendo and disgusting.
Although....how you know this at such a tender age is beyond me.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 05:59 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 05:59 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: --- at April 17, 2014 05:59 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 06:00 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:01 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 06:02 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: T. at April 17, 2014 06:02 PM (ptsHE)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:02 PM (krmE0)
Or anybody else who doesn't buy multiculturalism. The Russians are very ethnically diverse but have subjugated ethnic solidarity under the national flag. And a billion Han Chinese clearly give no fucks about what we think of their lack of diversity.
Posted by: kartoffel at April 17, 2014 06:03 PM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 17, 2014 06:03 PM (zAEzA)
Posted by: People Corporation at April 17, 2014 06:04 PM (pf+hU)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:04 PM (krmE0)
Really feel badly for all of you with college-age kids. Sending them off to what, in so many cases, have become alien, toxic, disgracefully, anti-American islands of idiocy (universities). Talking today with a good friend, whose brother is a scientist at a major NYC university, a few years back when my friend was casting around for work possibilities he asked his brother about the univ. Brother advised him he'd last a few days at most. Once his impermissible nature was known (non-leftwing asshat, with real-world experience in big policy areas) he'd be isolated and hounded out.
Really an extraordinary thing. As ace sometimes puts it plaintively - "is this America?". I myself passed on even going for a job opening a few years ago because it was at a university (a business school, even). I started to gear up to apply for it, then stepped back and imagined how many days I would last. I'm not going to sit through some stupid meeting listening to idiotic "green" nonsense - not even one - without challenging it. And that would just be one intolerable area of nonsense.
I view universities as mostly alien - and repugnant - places now. And I once considered an academic career, and had fairly good experiences when I was in school. Depressing.
Posted by: non-purist at April 17, 2014 06:04 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 17, 2014 10:03 PM (zAEzA)
Okay..that is some funny shit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:05 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:05 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AltonJackson` at April 17, 2014 06:05 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:07 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AltonJackson` at April 17, 2014 06:07 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 06:08 PM (zh9tu)
Stir-fry is a tough one, because it really isn't anything other than a hot pan and some good ingredients. The tough part (I think) is the timing, and that isn't something that I can explain with anything approaching intelligence.
And...what shape and size you cut the stuff is also important.
Too fucking complicated....I'll sound like even more of an ass than usual!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:08 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 17, 2014 06:08 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at April 17, 2014 06:09 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:09 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:11 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 17, 2014 06:11 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: AltonJackson` at April 17, 2014 06:11 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 17, 2014 06:11 PM (vA2UI)
Posted by: Thunderb at April 17, 2014 06:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:12 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 06:12 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:13 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 17, 2014 06:14 PM (zAEzA)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 10:13 PM (krmE0)
When's dinner? I'll bring booze.
I'm hammered and hungry, so please make a lot.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:14 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:15 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 10:12 PM (dfYL9)
Two good people......
Gentle....please....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:16 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:17 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at April 17, 2014 06:17 PM (zAEzA)
Posted by: fairweatherbill deerslayer at April 17, 2014 06:18 PM (vA2UI)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 17, 2014 06:18 PM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 06:20 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Butch at April 17, 2014 06:21 PM (m12IB)
Fuck. What a moron.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 17, 2014 06:21 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 17, 2014 06:22 PM (KCxzN)
I don't want any burning times. All I wish is to live out my life in peace and freedom, leaving my little piece of earth a bit better.
I intend that to happen.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 17, 2014 06:22 PM (SAMxH)
Hey, give us some credit. It only took me two years of accruing massive debt and being told I didn't belong there to get the message and drop out.
Posted by: kartoffel at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (sWwJZ)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 17, 2014 10:21 PM (V70Uh)
There are many highly esteemed scientists who share your view.
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (0HooB)
You can cook each ingredient separately, and that will make it easier to keep the pan really hot.
NCJ is minimizing the difficulty, probably because he is good at it and doesn't think about the details like this.
That's why he's cooking dinner for the Horde tonight!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:23 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 06:24 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:25 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 10:23 PM (8lmkt)
This!
He is the greatest physicist in history....in his own mind.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 17, 2014 06:25 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 06:27 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 06:27 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 17, 2014 06:28 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:28 PM (nqBYe)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 06:29 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Send in the Clowns at April 17, 2014 06:29 PM (wu/TK)
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Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:29 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:30 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Priss & The Replicants at April 17, 2014 06:30 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Peaches at April 17, 2014 06:30 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 06:30 PM (84gbM)
I would say that those of you who didn't endure that shitstorm during and after the Vietnam war say a little thank you.
We did it for you.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 17, 2014 06:31 PM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:34 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 17, 2014 06:37 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 06:37 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at April 17, 2014 06:38 PM (OSzB9)
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Anyone know what he was referring to here?
Posted by: S at April 17, 2014 06:38 PM (bOKSd)
Posted by: navycopjoe at April 17, 2014 06:38 PM (krmE0)
Posted by: Thunderb at April 17, 2014 06:39 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2014 06:40 PM (84gbM)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 17, 2014 06:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 06:42 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: The Right Old Hat at April 17, 2014 06:42 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2014 06:42 PM (zh9tu)
Posted by: willow at April 17, 2014 06:45 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: The Savage Weiner at April 17, 2014 06:45 PM (6j8ke)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 17, 2014 06:46 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 17, 2014 09:52 PM (RZ8pf)
++++
I can't prove it, but I don't think that all definitions at the Urban Dictionary are vetted with a 100% dedication to intellectual rigour. I even suspect that there may be a few definitions over there that aren't actually real things
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2014 06:49 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Thunderb at April 17, 2014 06:49 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Liberal Arts Major at April 17, 2014 06:49 PM (Bkakj)
Posted by: Thunderb at April 17, 2014 06:50 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 17, 2014 06:57 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: ToTUS at April 17, 2014 07:19 PM (LI48c)
What it does NOT mean is that you can not go out and call your boss a bunch of vile names and be free from being fired. Being fired for making a prop 8 contribution is in itself vile, but unless the firing organization violates some other law it is perfectly legal.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 17, 2014 10:18 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: fromabroad at April 17, 2014 11:42 PM (rnV3B)
Posted by: Czar Peter at April 18, 2014 05:10 AM (ftTF5)
Posted by: Jmel at April 17, 2014 08:47 PM (cfFqn)
Jmel, didn't you say you were teaching them "1984" a while back? Is this some kind of secret hedge school in the badlands where the culture is kept alive, like the Irish Catholics did under the English occupation?
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 18, 2014 07:40 AM (FkH4y)
So now it's revealed: Ace doesn't read Steyn or have any clue what Steyn has been writing about for the past year. Don't bother your pretty head now, bro'. Hint: Steyn is more conservative than Mike Castle, so there's nothing to see there. Move along now.
Posted by: Born Free at April 18, 2014 07:57 AM (xL8Hf)
Posted by: Czar Peter at April 18, 2014 09:10 AM (ftTF5)
The totalitarian left has been steadily and systematically equipping a host of federal agencies with SWAT (not conventional 'police') powers and equipment, as well as handing out military 'surplus' gear to sympathetic state and local police forces. Conservatives have foolishly gone along with this up-arming of the state under the vain belief that the police are ipso facto on the side of the people.
But the new military-equipped SWAT forces sprinkled throughout the land are the organizing principle of the 'civilian national security force as powerful as the military' about which Obama boasted. They are also the means by which to get around Posse Comitatus. While the military as currently constituted might not consent to wage war against Americans at home, the Left expects (correctly, alas) that as long as it is in charge, the police will happily carry out whatever tyranny Washington seeks to inflict on us. They'll shoot us down like vermin and sleep well at night, because Officer Safety! is the only principle to which they all give allegiance.
Posted by: craig at April 18, 2014 09:28 AM (Q5asM)
Posted by: Anon at April 18, 2014 03:05 PM (PQ3tU)
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