March 09, 2010
— Ace Massa says his alleged groping consisted of "tickling him until he couldn't breathe."
Okay, Beck is now challenging Massa on his story -- so he has either called an audible, or always intended to blindside him, but hid that from him so he'd come on the air.
Now Massa's Giving Us Civics Lessons: He's instructing Beck to stop calling fellow Americans "names," like "socialists."
I have a feeling Beck is about to jump ugly on him.
This guy has not provided any evidence or even specifics about corruption, and mostly just spun his decade-long dick-spree as "tickling" or some holistic form of cancer treatment.
Nope: Beck just re-asks the old questions and allows Massa to say there was nothing sexual in his group tickling activities, or "tickle-bangs."
Oh, there's some "banter" in text messages.
Apologizing to the American People: Beck is now apologizing to his audience for wasting their time, rebuking the evasive, shifty deranged pervert Massa for spending an hour saying nothing except "It's a Naval tradition to have tickle parties" and Rahm hurt his feelings very, very much.
You Know... Beck could have improved his credibility -- and provided entertaining TV -- if he had switched midway through to a hostile interrogation of Massa, instead of allowing him to blather vaguely that he made some "mistakes" which he takes ownership of but which also weren't really mistakes, it's just that people took his tickle-parties the wrong way.
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:09 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:10 PM (UOM48)
What am I missing about this story? Granted, I've been off watching basketball playoffs, but.......?
Posted by: Derak at March 09, 2010 01:10 PM (sPWq2)
Posted by: Tomorrow's headlines. at March 09, 2010 01:10 PM (tTj19)
What the fuck?
Yeah, what I was about to say.
This guy doesn't belong in Congress, he belongs on the cast of the Twilight series.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 09, 2010 01:11 PM (otlXg)
It would be a FOX ratings bonanza.
Posted by: sandy burger at March 09, 2010 01:11 PM (MT+0i)
Maybe he just has a sick sense of humor. I don't know what really happened with this wierd fucking guy and no interview will prove it one way or another.
I want to know what is going on behind the scenes to influence votes in congress.
Posted by: Dan at March 09, 2010 01:12 PM (1jzSs)
yeah, of course, it all sounds legit to me.
I like to tickle boobs...who doesn't?
Sometimes I put my penis in my chick's snapper to tickle her...until she can't breath.
Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 09, 2010 01:12 PM (1HKg5)
Posted by: /dev/null at March 09, 2010 01:12 PM (rGcVx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:12 PM (UOM48)
Spoken as a 6-year Navy veteran who never spent a single day on a ship.
/brownshoe REMF
Posted by: Mord at March 09, 2010 01:13 PM (tTj19)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 09, 2010 01:13 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 09, 2010 01:13 PM (1HKg5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:14 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at March 09, 2010 01:15 PM (MbyMv)
Office slumber parties? How long before he tells us they were drinking jesus juice out of soda cans?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2010 01:15 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at March 09, 2010 01:16 PM (MbyMv)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 09, 2010 01:16 PM (xxgag)
Oh, you mean my neighbor's kid?
Oh, yeah, we were just playing. You know, like I got your nose!, and stuff. I was grabbing his penor and saying I got your willy! I got your willy! It was innocent.
Posted by: This is Eric Massa at March 09, 2010 01:16 PM (1HKg5)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at March 09, 2010 05:16 PM (MbyMv)
How about wide stancing?
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 09, 2010 01:17 PM (xxgag)
Seriously, guys, who hasn't has their boss grab their cranks and 'tickle' them?
If anybody started to tickle me, they wouldn't live long enough to grab my crank.
What a dirtbag.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 09, 2010 01:17 PM (otlXg)
Malkin owes Beck an apology already - he's not letting Massa skate. Man up, Michelle.
Massa's "resignation" still hasn't been explained - and now he plays the cancer card - I'm still sticking with closeted at this point.
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (lBmZl)
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: sharrukin at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (593B8)
Posted by: oblig. at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (x7Ao8)
It's like you've been at one of the AoS staff meetings.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 01:18 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Annabelle at March 09, 2010 01:19 PM (SlQ9l)
Posted by: Mord at March 09, 2010 01:19 PM (tTj19)
Somewhere, someplace...
Jim Trafficant is smiling.
This guy Massa takes the cake. Beam me up, Tickle-Me-Elmo!
Posted by: This is Carlton, the doorman at March 09, 2010 01:19 PM (1HKg5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:20 PM (UOM48)
I think Massa is going out of his way to be amiable, and he's harmless enough looking to pull it off. Maybe when they get to Rahm and Nan we'll hear something new or interesting. Or maybe he'll juggle.
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:21 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: This is Roman Ploanski at March 09, 2010 01:21 PM (1HKg5)
Posted by: Democrat Steering Committee at March 09, 2010 01:21 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 09, 2010 01:21 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 01:23 PM (cpuvG)
If anybody started to tickle me, they wouldn't live long enough to grab my crank.
Not even hades consort, ms80sbaby?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at March 09, 2010 01:23 PM (cniXs)
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2010 01:24 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Dan Rather at March 09, 2010 01:24 PM (qYiMW)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:24 PM (p302b)
His handlers obviously drilled him on the "own this" "accountability" card. We get it already, next talking point.
Don't let him off the resignation hook, Glenn.
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:24 PM (rPDD/)
Either he's just a noble legislator who is being destroyed by venal Democrats, or he's just another Democrat nutbar on display. Either way none of his DNA is on us. Just let him talk and enjoy the show.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at March 09, 2010 01:24 PM (iCNfg)
Posted by: Obama at March 09, 2010 01:25 PM (7GgDy)
Posted by: Rahm's (semi-amputated) finger at March 09, 2010 01:26 PM (Kn9r7)
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:27 PM (rPDD/)
He could be both: A nut who was okay with them as long as he voted correctly. Which is a great indictment of the ORahma Machine.
Posted by: nickless at March 09, 2010 01:27 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:27 PM (p302b)
You'll have a bunch of dead-ender lefties who'll think, "Oh, the MSM has dirt like this on both sides."
But, you'll have way more average Joes out there who'll think, "HOLY CRAP! What else are they hiding about democrats?"
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 01:27 PM (lBmZl)
Posted by: d at March 09, 2010 01:28 PM (uTknY)
Posted by: vai2112 at March 09, 2010 01:28 PM (TcILN)
Either he's just a noble legislator who is being destroyed by venal Democrats, or he's just another Democrat nutbar on display. Either way none of his DNA is on us. Just let him talk and enjoy the show.
Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at March 09, 2010 05:24 PM (iCNfg)
Exactly! Talk and talk and talk and talk!
Posted by: krist at March 09, 2010 01:28 PM (7GgDy)
Posted by: Mord at March 09, 2010 01:29 PM (tTj19)
Uh, why did that name come up now?
/Short answer - hell no!
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 09, 2010 01:29 PM (otlXg)
Hear me, Steele? You guys have been f*#king up a lot lately. Fix it.
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:30 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:30 PM (UOM48)
Nope. Rahm is a great target. Emanuel actually is to Obama what the left cast Rove to be to W.
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 01:30 PM (lBmZl)
Does Massa want public financing of all campaigns?
He's an odd, sad guy who is simply disconnected from the real world.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 01:31 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Dan at March 09, 2010 01:31 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Annabelle at March 09, 2010 01:33 PM (SlQ9l)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:33 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Dan at March 09, 2010 01:33 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: /dev/null at March 09, 2010 01:33 PM (rGcVx)
Posted by: shibumi at March 09, 2010 01:33 PM (OKZrE)
All the guilty pleasure combined with plausible deniability.
Posted by: Things I learned from watching Pulp Fiction at March 09, 2010 01:34 PM (tTj19)
Agree. Don't the shrinks say that it's really a thinly-disguised act of aggression?
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2010 01:34 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 01:34 PM (cpuvG)
the guy had enough, who knows what other threats and pressure there is
there is something to be gleaned here, but hard to sort it out
Posted by: bill at March 09, 2010 01:35 PM (x49/7)
Yeah, he hasn't stumbled onto a nest of corruption that he has special knowledge of, he's just a guy who found out in ain't Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
That and he's a little odd and had a tough run of it lately. He's a guy who doesn't like his job and quit. Not much more beyond that I think.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 01:35 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:35 PM (UOM48)
"Bullcrap" x2 and still not letting him off the hook on resigning - dead on, Glenn - if America's so important to you, Massa, why resign over a tickle-fight ?
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:35 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:35 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:37 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 01:37 PM (IrdrP)
Posted by: G. Gordon Liddy at March 09, 2010 01:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 09, 2010 01:37 PM (mHQ7T)
Neither have I.
That is what this interview is starting to look like.
Posted by: Mord at March 09, 2010 01:37 PM (tTj19)
He's an odd, sad guy who is simply disconnected from the real world.
Yeah. But he fits in fine with the Cynthia McKinneys, Graysons, and Starks in the House. Hell how could you tell he's a nut by comparing him to the rest of them? He's rational compared to those nutcases.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 09, 2010 01:38 PM (fx8sm)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:38 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 01:39 PM (IrdrP)
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2010 01:39 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:39 PM (UOM48)
I would then feel much better about having watched.
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at March 09, 2010 01:39 PM (8zQxF)
Posted by: /dev/null at March 09, 2010 01:40 PM (rGcVx)
McCain sits there nodding his head while watching this.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 01:40 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: vai2112 at March 09, 2010 01:40 PM (TcILN)
But why would the guy be ready to die in battle, but run from a held office?
There is something hidden, unless he just had more than he can handle and/or was threatened
Posted by: bill at March 09, 2010 01:40 PM (x49/7)
Posted by: kathleen at March 09, 2010 01:42 PM (PcS+R)
He is a nut... but I believe the Dems went after him for his vote. I think Rahm is a disgusting pig who would do exactly what Massa is saying. Sounds like maffia tactics to me.
I would leave too... I wouldnt go through this crap.
Posted by: kristi at March 09, 2010 01:42 PM (7GgDy)
There is nothing to gain from "they said you sexually harassaed then" and massa says "well no i didnt."
That will not accomplish anything. Was hoping he would get into some specific instances of vote buying, but it seems hes just going on about general BS that we all know about already.
I can tell Beck feels this way too.
Posted by: Dan at March 09, 2010 01:42 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 05:37 PM (IrdrP)"
I could not sit through even a half hour of coulter or malkin. When they do the kind of investigative reporting that Rivera has done over his career then maybe I would listen. both of them play it real safe. They never report anything that is even a bit controversial and they are making oodles and oodles of money off books and such that stem from their sites. I'm not sticking up for Geraldo just saying that those two are not in his league and don't deserve shows. But, thank God, it is my first amendment right to be able to give my opinion.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:43 PM (p302b)
I'd cross the aisle.
Or go (I).
Nothing should scare the shit out of the Ds more than more defections right now.
Posted by: nickless at March 09, 2010 01:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Peaches at March 09, 2010 01:44 PM (9Wv2j)
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 09, 2010 05:43 PM (fx8sm)
I think the camera distorts their size. They'll all under 6 lbs. One is even under 4 lbs.
Posted by: Tami at March 09, 2010 01:45 PM (VuLos)
Of course, he says he was living in his office, which doesn't exactly scream "ready for prime time".
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:45 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: nickless at March 09, 2010 01:46 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:46 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2010 01:46 PM (SB0V2)
The screen won't go blank.
They will run a commercial for Gold!
/and it's not evil elves, it's evil Reptillian aliens.
Posted by: shibumi at March 09, 2010 01:47 PM (OKZrE)
"Well, if I had known that that was frowned upon..."
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:47 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:48 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 01:48 PM (IrdrP)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:48 PM (p302b)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2010 01:48 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: USA at March 09, 2010 01:48 PM (YZISw)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2010 01:49 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: /dev/null at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (rGcVx)
Rahm is Jim Hensen to Obama's Kermit the Frog.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (Vo2Ef)
It seems to be a "thing" with some guys. A gross thing.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2010 05:48 PM (SB0V2)
Women do this in locker room too.
Posted by: Tami at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (VuLos)
I could not sit through even a half hour of coulter or malkin. When they do the kind of investigative reporting that Rivera has done over his career then maybe I would listen. both of them play it real safe. They never report anything that is even a bit controversial and they are making oodles and oodles of money off books and such that stem from their sites. I'm not sticking up for Geraldo just saying that those two are not in his league and don't deserve shows. But, thank God, it is my first amendment right to be able to give my opinion.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010
Malkin nevers reports anything controversial???? I'm "curious" where you've been the last 10 years or so. I don't always agree with the fights she picks, but to say she backs away from controversy is asinine.
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (kwhut)
Now he's ranting against the concept of vote whipping. Dude is a moron.
He's like a hooker getting angry that her "dates" really do expect to get a blowjob after giving her $20.
Posted by: bobbo at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (+ABdJ)
Apparently Beck did nothing between yesterday and today's interview, other than promote it.
Levin will be teeing off on this in about 15 minutes.
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (Qeynb)
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:50 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: vai2112 at March 09, 2010 01:51 PM (TcILN)
Posted by: G. Gordon here. at March 09, 2010 01:51 PM (IrdrP)
I am going to go clean bathrooms to get the germs off of me. This was a creepy waste of my time.
Radio talk show hosts should not do important interviews like this. They don't understand how to get the information from the subject.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 09, 2010 01:52 PM (4DwVn)
I don't watch his show. I don't have the time to waste. However I don't read malkin or coulter. I feel as though the idea in this country is to get yourself in a good position so you can grow the business and make more and more money. whether you are a republican or a democrat. Beck is doing it. "pay 6 bucks to see him while he is on the radio, using 6 cameras." or "come to this theater to see him give a show" or "buy this book". The guy since he jumped ship at CNN has developed an entire media company, growing by leaps and bounds. That might not be a good thing. Republican or democrat or journalist...these people become almost cult figures, their followers wait on their every breathe and decide what they, the follower should think, based on what the cult leader says. This is how BO got elected. No one in this country, no one thinks things out any more.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:52 PM (p302b)
Who killed Massa's cat last night ? He's all puppies and kittens - give him the hook, Glenn.
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:52 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: kristi at March 09, 2010 01:52 PM (7GgDy)
Women do this in locker room too.
I had a job cleaning the Locker Rooms at a local Tennis Club in High School.
Wimmens be disgusting creatures...just like us.
Never should have taken that job.
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2010 01:53 PM (Qeynb)
Beck wasted the hour.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 01:53 PM (a/mnj)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:53 PM (p302b)
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 01:54 PM (cGaVN)
Whoa! Beck apologizing to the audience!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:54 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 05:36 PM (lBmZl)
It can be converted back.
Posted by: Alchemists at March 09, 2010 01:55 PM (Vo2Ef)
Posted by: Dan at March 09, 2010 01:55 PM (1jzSs)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 09, 2010 01:55 PM (7rTCf)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 01:55 PM (IrdrP)
the white house must be very happy tonight, Massa made a fool of Beck.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:55 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 01:56 PM (cpuvG)
Posted by: polynikes at March 09, 2010 05:54 PM (m2CN7)
It was almost 40 years ago but he brought down the NYS mental health system and led to deinstitutionalization around the country.
Google "Willowbrook".
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 01:56 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 01:56 PM (a/mnj)
Posted by: Stan Smith at March 09, 2010 01:57 PM (EC3UD)
Name one significant Geraldo investigative breakthrough report. That's what I thought.
Posted by: polynikes at March 09, 2010 05:54 PM (m2CN7)
WILLOWBROOK, IN STATEN ISLAND
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:57 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:57 PM (UOM48)
136 agree
Now we get Massa kissing Rahm's ass and recanting . I'd like to see Beck dish some of what Massa baited him with - he clearly was looking for something with meat on it and got Charlie Brown'ed. At least he's coming clean.
Still owe that apology Michelle - he didn't pander to him.
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 01:57 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: vai2112 at March 09, 2010 01:57 PM (TcILN)
Glenn Beck NEVER lives up to his own hype.
In a way, he's a lot like Obama -- keeps pumping us up and ginning us up, but never delivers.
Posted by: This is Roman Ploanski at March 09, 2010 01:58 PM (1HKg5)
/kinda
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 01:58 PM (a/mnj)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (7rTCf)
coulter and malkin have written lovely sweet little books. written safe columns and quietly accumulated wealth. haven't seen them break any major stories. Even o'really who I don't like at all was a legitimate reporter in his time.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (p302b)
Posted by: This is Candygram at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (1HKg5)
So my decision to ditch work for a pedicure rather than coming home to watch Beck was a good one?
Yay me!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (dNbQd)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (IrdrP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 01:59 PM (UOM48)
Beck fucked this interview up from about five minutes in.
He should have grilled him on switching his party affiliation and every vote he made while in office the moment it became apparent this was going nowhere.
There's a light to be brought to light by simply examining his actions and records and dissecting his votes and motivations.
Inside of three minutes you could force him to answer relevant questions and/or walk out without comments.
Instead, Beck tried to coax something out of him that would take more than a tickle party to get at...Beck got worked, but at least he made the call. It was a waste of time, alright.
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2010 02:00 PM (Qeynb)
He did no such thing. He was just an evasive politician and everybody sees it.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 02:00 PM (cpuvG)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:00 PM (p302b)
No, it was real reporting that uncovered a lot of horrible things. It also led to a lot of horrible fall out but it was a major story whose reverberations are still felt today. Geraldo's been drinking off that for decades but it was legitimate stuff.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 02:00 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 02:02 PM (IrdrP)
Posted by: This is Candygram at March 09, 2010 02:02 PM (1HKg5)
Massa is probably hoping that if he blathers a political mantra that sounds vaguely "anti-", he might end up with a contingency of voters/donors. Too bad he has the charisma of a wart.
Posted by: lincolntf at March 09, 2010 02:02 PM (cGaVN)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 09, 2010 02:02 PM (SB0V2)
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 02:02 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: vai2112 at March 09, 2010 02:03 PM (TcILN)
In fairness to Beck, he isn't (and never claims to be) a journalist. But he should recognize his own limitations and had someone more skilled conduct the interview with him.
Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at March 09, 2010 02:03 PM (xMSXs)
Yea, that's exactly the words I would have chosen after reading Coulter's columns where she rips out a few liberal hearts and eats them on crackers. Have you never read Coulter?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 02:03 PM (a/mnj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 02:04 PM (UOM48)
A "Crossing the Line" ceremony from his days in the Navy.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 02:05 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Flavius Julius at March 09, 2010 02:05 PM (IrdrP)
RE: Willowbrook
The mental health system was already scheduled for dismantling because of the Community Mental Health Act of 1963.
If Gerry had anything to do with that, then would bear a sizable portion of the responsibility for the homeless problem.
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 02:06 PM (lBmZl)
180:
What the hell's wrong with making money, Curious ?
No wonder you're eating Geraldo up with his "out for the little guy" schtick. You think he lives like a Trappist or something ? Was "Al Capone's Vault" a charity project ?
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 02:07 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 02:07 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: polynikes at March 09, 2010 06:03 PM (m2CN7)
But it wasn't, it was Rivera.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 02:07 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 09, 2010 02:07 PM (7rTCf)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 09, 2010 02:09 PM (I/MqP)
Don't know for sure. I'll be interested to see what the Navy folks around here have to say about that and the tickle fights.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 09, 2010 02:09 PM (9B5OK)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 02:09 PM (UOM48)
Beck needs to learn how to ride the bronco.
Pretty much anyone else at Fox would have driven that pig into a nice set of soundbytes. Imagine Cavuto doing it.
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 09, 2010 02:09 PM (7rTCf)
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 02:09 PM (rPDD/)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010
That's an odd thing to say, considering in post 149 you say you don't read Coulter or Malkin. If your definition of a "major" story is one that the MSM runs with, then no one on the right ever will, unless they have a TV audience to push the story. But Malkin has been out in front of a lot of stories that would be big is the villain was conservative - e.g. the Kevin Jennings crap, all the faked "hate crimes", the poor family in Maryland that was used as the poster child for S-Chip, that was in fact quite wealthy but also irresponsible. The list goes on and on.
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 02:10 PM (kwhut)
Posted by: polynikes at March 09, 2010 05:54 PM (m2CN7)
The empty whiskey bottles in Al Capone's vault were teh awesome.
Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at March 09, 2010 02:10 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2010 02:11 PM (UOM48)
Now I will have to listen to that for the next 2 days.
UGH.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 09, 2010 02:11 PM (4DwVn)
Exactly. Beck should have picked just a few things that he wanted answers to, and worked those. He clearly wanted to know about political arm-twisting, for example. He should have had Jarrett or someone write up questions with him and also be there to exploit any openings Massa gave. Beck just is not trained for that. Wasted opportunity.
Posted by: Miss Fluffy McNutter at March 09, 2010 02:13 PM (xMSXs)
Everything for Lindsey Graham involves bigger government. "We just need another statute."
Stupid, un-conservative ass.
Posted by: rdbrewer at March 09, 2010 02:14 PM (7rTCf)
A "Crossing the Line" ceremony from his days in the Navy.
They tried that on my Uncle in 1941. He was on the Arizona the last time it pulled into port. He assaulted two superior officers and was thrown in the brig at Pearl Harbor. He survived the attack.
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2010 02:14 PM (Qeynb)
I had dinner with Coulter. Can't stand her personally so why would I read anything she writes?
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:15 PM (p302b)
Posted by: polynikes at March 09, 2010 05:54 PM (m2CN7)
Also, when he gave away the position of the troops he was embedded with. I'm sure a lot of jihadis found his report riveting.Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at March 09, 2010 02:16 PM (IoUF1)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 02:17 PM (cpuvG)
I was hoping the fucker would die in an "accident" soon after.
Posted by: MikeO at March 09, 2010 02:18 PM (lBmZl)
Tomorrow, can we all wtch 'Tyra' together?
Bound to be every bit as imformative...
BTW - Levin lead with Beck's buffoonish interview...
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2010 02:20 PM (bPNwZ)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:21 PM (p302b)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 09, 2010 02:22 PM (I/MqP)
But Beck is on TV and has been for some time, so he should KNOW it is hard, and get help. The fact that he obviously didn't prepare and didn't know how to get the information is HIS responsibility.
Either he is incredibly ignorant about interviewing or he is suffering from a hyper-inflated ego.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 09, 2010 02:25 PM (4DwVn)
I like tickling a guy until he can't breath as much as the next fetishist, but jesus...
Look, Beck gave Massa a chance to clear the air, slam Emmanuel for his crude bullying tactics, and state the reasons why he resigned. He failed.
Posted by: SFC MAC at March 09, 2010 02:26 PM (RPkOk)
or he didn't really want anything controversial to come out on his show but he wanted the enormous ratings since even the staff of morning joe was breaking their "no watching of beck" rule to watch the show. If that is true, beck did more damage to beck today than to anyone else.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:27 PM (p302b)
............so, how would you possibly be qualified to critique her writing then?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 02:29 PM (a/mnj)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:29 PM (p302b)
A nice bouquet of roses to MM is in order. The lady knows her stuff. Beck should listen to her in the future -- if he has one.
Posted by: erp at March 09, 2010 02:30 PM (RzTM+)
............so, how would you possibly be qualified to critique her writing then?
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 09, 2010 06:29 PM (a/mnj)"
I'm not going to discuss this with you. However, I am entitled to my opinion and you to yours. So good for you. applause.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:30 PM (p302b)
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 06:09 PM (rPDD/)
I'm former Army, but I can tell you.
Actually, the "party" is a bit more crazy than that. An ex-boyfriend of mine served in the Navy and showed me pictures of his "crossing the equator" ceremony. One of the things involved was getting his face rubbed in the slop-covered (tossed out food from the mess hall) fat belly of a senior petty officer, and a variety of other hazing techniques.
Posted by: SFC MAC at March 09, 2010 02:33 PM (RPkOk)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:36 PM (p302b)
Posted by: yarrrrr at March 09, 2010 02:38 PM (3knm2)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:38 PM (p302b)
Of course he did, what a stupid statement.
MM: or he is suffering from a hyper-inflated ego.
Won't argue with that.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 02:40 PM (cpuvG)
Posted by: easyliving1 at March 09, 2010 02:40 PM (MjufE)
This Massa "scandal" is just an orchestrated dog-and-pony show to draw attention away from the upcoming ObamaCare vote.
And Beck fell right into the trap. I hope the rest of you see through it too...
Posted by: w'evver at March 09, 2010 02:43 PM (1kwr2)
The problem wasn't the interview. He was a man about it, said he wasted the viewers time.
The problem was what he said yesterday. This interview may "change American History" or something like that.
Glenn is prone to hyperbole and it bit him on the ass.
Posted by: Aaron at March 09, 2010 02:44 PM (pSM+3)
Posted by: Antimatter at March 09, 2010 02:45 PM (gbCNS)
Of course he did, what a stupid statement.
MM: or he is suffering from a hyper-inflated ego.
Won't argue with that.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 06:40 PM (cpuvG)"
It's not a stupid statement at all. Beck provided the guy with a platform for his apology. He allowed the guy to take ownership of the behavior and to talk about his bizarre living situation. He allowed him to show his cancer xray. Those were all sort of favors from Beck. Again I reiterate that Beck did not want anything controversial said on the show. It could be that Beck felt bad for the guy and was willing to give him a platform to say the things he was forced to say to get this out of the spotlight as fast as possible. Maybe this wasn't a Beck political show but a beck, real live human being show.
But heck, I'm sort of happy to know that they aren't as stupid as I thought they were. They are so busy securing money for their campaigns, all day, every day, that they don't have time for silly things like reading bills and doing research in the people's interest. I breathed a sigh of relief learning this. (JK)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:46 PM (p302b)
Posted by: FireHorse at March 09, 2010 02:52 PM (cQyWA)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 02:52 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Deanna at March 09, 2010 02:52 PM (JXlgX)
And you reiterate your total lack of knowledge. If the guy had noted specific corruption or some other controversy, it would have been in the news for a week and beck would be a beneficiary. Of course, he wanted controversy, he lives for it and thats why he apologized.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 02:53 PM (cpuvG)
No and that doesn't have anything to do with your silly statement.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 09, 2010 02:57 PM (cpuvG)
I can't bnelieve how many people are saying Massa got the better of this. He looked like the weasel that we already knew he was - he didn't rehabilitate himself or "own" anybody. Beck called him on being a liar and on weaseling out of his promise to give us something of substance. Beck didn't get what he wanted but Massa's in no better shape for it and Beck wasn't kissing his ass.
The idea that this went down like Beck wanted is even more of a stretch. I'm not Beck's biggest fan but this sounds like hating on him more than calling it like you see it. We all watched the same show, ffs.
Props to Curious for basically Geraldo-jacking the thead, BTW. Way to go, contrarian - I bought into it too.
Posted by: societyis2blame at March 09, 2010 03:04 PM (rPDD/)
We did all watch it. If you are a regular Beck watcher, someone who watched him on CNN too, you know Beck is more than just this recent television show. He, is a good person and assumes that others are good people. That always gets him into trouble. Beck kept referring to his conversations with Massa on the phone and during the breaks. It seems to me that massa said one thing when the cameras weren't rolling and another thing when they were rolling. I think Beck ultimately decided to let him get out all his mea culpa stuff and to move on. I don't think Beck was looking for anything in particular. I don't think he promised anything. I think he made it real clear that he was having the guy on and he would see how it went. It is possible that Beck saw the human being there and what a mess the human being was and looked over at the wife and kids and decided not to push the envelope. I think when he analyzes the interview and discusses it with his audience that a lot of good may come from this interview. A friend of mine, in the business has suggested that he do another show for the repeat and examine what went on in the live broadcast, what he was thinking and why. That is a pretty good idea.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 03:15 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 03:21 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Antimatter at March 09, 2010 03:30 PM (gbCNS)
Posted by: Starboardhelm at March 09, 2010 03:42 PM (SgSfB)
Too much redundancy and overarching, generic philosophy of "reform." Sure, Beck noted this and kept interjecting to try and force an answer from Massa while stating "I don't really know this guy or necessarily believe him but you viewers can decide for yourself what's what," but Beck just did not walk the subject through the evidence. At all.
Greta Van Sustern's approach is needed here, and this is where Beck failed. He left too open a canvas for Massa and Massa really didn't know where to start or didn't really want to start because he couldn't provide enough prosecutable evidence of direct corruption other than a "wink and a nod" typical of Congressional whipping. Either way, Beck should have been able to tease that much out of him.
I mean, how about how many times did Emmanuel approach you? What was the specific carrot? What was the specific stick? What technologies did Rahmbo use and are there records of those communications? Was it just Rahmbo, or were there representatives of his involved? How about Obama directly? Or the kitchen cabinet members? Pelosi... how was she involved? How many times? If you can't recall off the top of your head, would you be willing to provide logs to Congressional investigators or the press? Would you testify to forms of intimidation in court should charges of corruption actually transpire? Have you or your family been threatened personally either before the revelations of your "indiscretions" or since coming out against the political machine? If so, how often and in what specific manner? And so on...
As it stands, Beck got nothing new and I'm still somewhat inclined to think that Massa still has information to provide but is either reticent to reveal it or isn't sure how to reveal it or where to begin. Or he's got nuthin' other than the Rahmbo shower scene (which I find wholly credible despite lack of video) and a general beef with machine politics which he should have been prepared for already. I'm not sure Beck gave us anything from that hour.
Again, missed opportunity all around.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 09, 2010 04:09 PM (LB0/l)
I know, I realize now that I am an independent and I infuriated some because I made the mistake of criticizing two of your conservative sacred cows. But hey, I guess I can't appreciate them cause I am an independent.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010
I think the problem isn't so much that you criticized them, but that your criticisms were fucking idiotic. God knows there are legitimate grounds for criticism (I'd say much more for Coulter, but whatever). The fact that two opinion columnists don't meet your fuzzy, but apparently quite lofty, standards for investigative journalism is more a personal problem for you than anything else.
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 04:12 PM (kwhut)
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 08:12 PM (kwhut)"
that's odd. calling it my "personal problem". Some one suggested that they should have a television program in lieu of Geraldo. My answer is, I believe that they should not have any television program and if anyone deserves to have said television program it would be Monica Crowley. PHD or Lis Wiehl, law professor or even kimberly, the other lawyer or Laura Ingraham. there are many in line at fox before they would even get to malkin and coulter. In all honesty, if you guys are planning to take away Geraldo's show then give Charlie Gasparino a show. Now that would be one interesting program. I don't read malkin or coulter and I ignore Geraldo. I'm new to this internet interaction as this is the first blog I've posted on and I found it by accident. But I did live through the cleansing over at that Hot Air site and the disingenuousness of the cleansing, which I saw through your eyes. If you are honest with yourselves, now that you know the outcome, that was some pretty nasty manipulative stuff if you ask me. But, heck this is my first experience posting anywhere so really what do I know.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 04:21 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 04:39 PM (kwhut)
Posted by: Buzz at March 09, 2010 08:39 PM (kwhut)
I don't see you as "being a bit of a dick". I'm not a "newcomer" to this blog as I think it might be a year since I found it. I am a newcomer to posting. Never posted anywhere but on this blog. No, you are entitled to your opinions and I to mine. Sadly on the internet you don't see a person. You don't know their motivations. You essentially don't know what they know or what they can't say on a public message board. Generally I'm not so dogmatic about stuff, I usually let it go but it is wholly frightening to me to witness how some of these blog posters are like followers having a religious experience. Sometimes I think this stops people from thinking on their own. As far a hot air goes. I didn't even know it existed until it was mentioned here. I did however see people's feeling were hurt when their posts were deleted and their comments attacked. Many came to this blog. When I finally figured out where the green room was and what it was along came the announcement of the blog being bought. it does not take a rhodes scholar to figure out, based on reading this blog, what went on over there. It makes you wonder. Maybe in order to have your blog bought you have to control what people say on it to make it palatable. I'm not sure of any of this stuff but I really did feel bad for the upset posters who came here.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 04:52 PM (p302b)
Posted by: ron dorque at March 09, 2010 04:57 PM (uVCdC)
Posted by: sixgunsam at March 09, 2010 05:09 PM (scH4A)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 05:23 PM (p302b)
I have such a crush on Roberts.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 06:02 PM (p302b)
I was in the Navy. On a ship that actually left port. There is or was (70's) a lot of hazing. There were a couple of gay guys on the ship. They stayed up in Officer Country and that was that. It never mattered. The hazing did not cross over into gay stuff. It was a rite of passage.
Posted by: Artruen at March 09, 2010 06:22 PM (L+dBi)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 06:23 PM (p302b)
Posted by: cheshirecat at March 09, 2010 07:07 PM (V4deW)
Beck is someone who I agree with but I would NEVER sit down and have a beer with him.
Why?
Because he cries to often.
I never acknowledge Beck, and I never will. There are to many alternatives, such as myself.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 09, 2010 07:24 PM (40yOy)
Get this piece of shit the fuck out of here.
That's an order.
Posted by: Leatherneck at March 09, 2010 07:27 PM (40yOy)
I knew Massa was a sleazeball when I saw a youtube video of him saying he was going to vote for Healthcare knowing his constituents did'nt want it. The reason he voted no on Health care was that there was no public option, and Beck stated that.
That said, I think Beck could have been tougher on him, but Beck also made it very clear,he did not know what Massa was going to say or even if Massa would show up for the show. I think Massa showed himself to be the lying SOS that he is.
I remember Beck giving slome sleazy SEIU lawyer a face full of shit on his show, and I do believe he threw that guy off his set. SoI think what happenend here is Beck was really hoping Massa would give up the goods.
I also think someone got to him,(Massa) and that's why why he clammed up.
I think Michelle Malkin also made a good point when she told Beck she thought Massa would just lay low for a while and then run again. Look at Spitzer, is'nt he talking about doing that?
Posted by: martha at March 09, 2010 07:50 PM (kFsTd)
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 09:17 PM (p302b)
I want to clarify this cause sometimes what your are thinking in your head doesn't make it to the page. Larry was prepared cause he definitely watched the Beck interview. The comment was more about Larry than about Beck. Didn't want anyone to think that I thought Beck was unprepared.
Interesting though, with MLH from Columbia university you can see the beginning of the spin right towards the republicans.
Posted by: curious at March 09, 2010 09:27 PM (p302b)
and when Massa was promoted on FNC the rest of the corrupt gang understood what was going to be said and paid Massa off.
Isn't that a pretty good explanation for this behavior? Beck's hyperbole is annoying, and Massa is just a slimey weasel, but also he knows a lot about the deals going on behind closed doors to secure votes. He was probably offered something.
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