1 Sorry, PA-12 was not a "big one."  Lets get some perspective.

2 who me?

3

The Politico is full of shiat.

4 As per usual the ONLY race that mattered is the one where the Republican lost.
Oh well, maybe we need for things to get even worse before people wake up.

5
The Democrats have nothing to be worried about. Yeah, the Democrats might lose 15 seats in the House and a couple in Senate, but they'll still have a comfortable majority.

Why will the Democrats win? Because the other side isn't putting up a fight. We'll never win with the leadership we have. Never.

6

Somehow a Democrat winning a district that is something like D+15, that has elected a democrat for the past 30 years isn't as big a deal as say a Republican running for Senator in Massachusetts against a Democratic President and Healthcare bill for a seat held by a Democrat for the past 30 years in a state that is something like D+15.

Let me know when a democrat wins a R+15 district in Alabama. Then  I will worry.

7 I'm just fine w/ Politico promulgating this line of thinking: make the libs/Dems complacent going into November--it'll make the independents feasting on their innards, en masse, all the more delicious.

8

But more importantly, Murtha's district has leaned far more Murtha than for any party. Murtha Pork is the lifeblood of this economically depressed area; an awful lot of people rely, directly and indirectly, upon Murtha's -- or his proxy's -- ability to funnel millions of dollars from the rest of the country into this small slice of Pennsylvania.

THIS

9 Lets face it, no matter what the outcome was last night, short of Burns winning like 70/30, this would've been the spin.

If Johnstown, PA is a microcosm of America, and this district is as large of a bellwether as so many want it to be, then this country is so far up shit creek, it doesn't matter.

My family who lives there all are devout Lutheran and Catholics, all own guns, all hate illegal immigrants, all have a flag on their porch or somewhere predominant in the home, and they all vote straight-ticket D. Doesn't matter who, or for what, or why. They vote D. Why? Their parents did. Their union says to. Their disability "depends on it". And there is not any amount of logic that is going to change that.

10

While I find Politico's premise to be a bullshit narrative, I'm more than happy to be running as a pseudo-underdog.

The headline alone--could they sound more giddy?

11 Politico is right, we're f~cking doomed come November. Everyone should not donate their time or money to any republican candidate. In fact, don't even vote. The democrats are obviously on the right track, that's why their so popular in the polls. Scott Brown? Fools gold. Chris Christie? A mirage. Bob McDonnell? A speed bump on the way to a democratic landslide victory come November. Harry Reid's current position in the polls? He's the comeback kid cadaver. The democrats are our betters, deal with it.

12 I love that the media wants to play it this way- get nice and complacent clowns. You'll never see it coming. How many PA-12's out there? I'll bet there are 40+ that aren't.

13

Come on, of course it was a big one.  Taking Murtha's seat away?  That would have been huge, awesome, etc.  It would have called for mass ball dipping in cool, creamy pudding.  Hell, I had my ball shaved, waxed, powdered and ready to dip.

Now I'm stuck with undipped pudding and a shorn scrotum that is probably going to have all sorts of ingrown hairs next week.

If we would have taken it, talk of 100 + seats pickup in the house would be conceivable.

As it is, not so much.  We'll still pick up seats.  And God willing, we'll have enough to defund Obama care.

And if any of you want to call me a moby or a "life long concerned Christian conservative who must reluctantly vote for Pelosi", forget it.

I'm just a guy with an itchy ball sack.

14 1Sorry, PA-12 was not a "big one."  Lets get some perspective.

Posted by: ParisParamusat May 19, 2010 01:42 PM (lf/rr)

Come on, of course it was a big one.  Taking Murtha's seat away?  That would have been huge, awesome, etc.  It would have called for mass ball dipping in cool, creamy pudding.  Hell, I had my ball shaved, waxed, powdered and ready to dip.

Now I'm stuck with undipped pudding and a shorn scrotum that is probably going to have all sorts of ingrown hairs next week.

If we would have taken it, talk of 100 + seats pickup in the house would be conceivable.

As it is, not so much.  We'll still pick up seats.  And God willing, we'll have enough to defund Obama care.

And if any of you want to call me a moby or a "life long concerned Christian conservative who must reluctantly vote for Pelosi", forget it.

I'm just a guy with an itchy ball sack.

15 #11: Heh. But seriously I would like to see some fraking leadership from the republican establishment. Or maybe they don't really want to win. Could be that...

16 This is another piece of ridiculous chicken soup for the leftwing stupids who actually believe any of the writers for Politico are experts on electoral mechanics. Read Jay Cost. And here's another blinding glimpse of the obvious, this was a sample size of...ONE! IDIOTS.

17 Best to let them feel safe and comfortable.

18 Snapdingelberry was so happy he spent the entire night at the truckstop glory hole. Normally only spends a few hours there.

19 Ed, I don't know if you are a moby; I do know you're disgusting.

20 A handful of districts are like this -- socially conservative but fiscally very liberal.

It's more than a handful. A little party you might have heard of called the GOP runs on an "empty so-con gesture/soft socialism" platform in almost every district, and they do okay.

The bad news: The average voter is a fascist. The good news: Death comes to us all. Woot.

21 Could we get a translation on comment #21, please?

22 I do not understand why anyone thought we would pick up Murtha's seat.  I didn't think it was even a remote possibility.

The constituency has voted for Murtha for a long,  long time.  His Congressional chief of Staff was running on Murtha's record.   Why anyone got themselves convinced we would win that seat is beyond me.

So,  I am not the least bit depressed,  and anyone who predicts doom for the GOP based on this election is just silly. 

23 yesterday [Politico has a piece up saying the elections would show WHO has influence, ho has the juice to get candidates in..

today they leave out that Big Dawg campaigned for Critz. Obama campaigned for Arlen.

DLC Big Dawg fiscal policy pro capitalism type Dems can still get elected, DNC Obama types can not.
Of course this will enrage the left who is still enraged at Big Dawg and even Rahm for the Blue Dog fiscal policy and Blue Dog critters.

Axelrasputin said today they will run Dems who can win in those districts, IOW blue dog types.

If DLC types run and are believed they will win

GOP needs to take strong stands and not run to the middle, and I say that as a mod Dem who is recovering from my leftyness. Let the left try and teach a lesson to the Dems who dare to run conservatives.

Let the GOP run ACTUAL conservatives and then people will have a real choice.

PA12 will be rerun in November when people know Burns and there are too many seats in play for Big Dawg to try and save them all.

and it is delicious schadenfrude that the idiots who selected O thought he would have coattails and they still need Bill 10 yrs later to save their bacon.

24 "Wow, I can here the ocean in here!"

25 Murtha Pork is the lifeblood of this economically depressed area; an awful lot of people rely, directly and indirectly, upon Murtha's -- or his proxy's -- ability to funnel millions of dollars from the rest of the country into this small slice of Pennsylvania.

I live in PA10 aka McDadeland.  Yeah, the district is reddish but a ton of the votes were just that, for McDade and then Sherwood.  It took Sherwood allegedly choking a bitch to lose it.  Trust me, it's not out of love for the Republicans that Sherwood won by what he did.

26 Anytime the left trumpets, "it ain't so bad" they only hurt themselves.  This year it will be all about turnout in dem primaries so far has been pathetic.

any district left enough to continually elect murtha isnt going to elect a republican.  this loss is a non issue.

27 Yes Politico.  Taxpayers are primed to vote in favor of tax increases.

The Democrats have to run away from Obama, Pelosi, and Reid in order to win and this is somehow viewed as a positive for Dems?

Enjoy that fall off the cliff.

28 Really do you expect any different from me? Fuck I'm a snake I'm supposed to bite you, silly frog.

29 The Politico is just another stenographer for the DNC.

30 PA-12 isn't the end of the world for the Republicans, but of course the MFM would like to spout it as if it were so.
 
Surprise, surprise, surprise.  We'll see how things shake out in November.

31 I don't see how there is anything conservative, in the least, about PA-12.  They voted in an ABSCAM criminal.  They voted in a guy who accused Marines of cold-blooded murder, in the well of Congress.  They voted in a guy who didn't have the integrity to apologize as those Marines were finally acquitted.  They voted in a guy who went along with the most anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Western government to ever sit in Washington.   They voted in a guy who supported the most pro-abortion, anti-gun administration ever.  They voted in a guy who called them "racists", "bigots" and "idiots".

I just don't see what about PA-12 is conservative, in the least.

32 The people in PA-12 are really pathetic. They have no future and are so dependent on the government to the point they cannot even think for themselves anymore. This fits right into Obama's plan, however how many PA-12s are out there?  Their district is economically desolate, but they cannot figure out why? If you are 18 years old and graduating HS, I recommend you leave the district or suffer the declining quality of life in this rust belt fostered by the unions....Up to to you Bubba !!!!!

33 Ace surfaced before 2:00 EST? Who had that in the pool?

34 http://tinyurl.com/yf27s4f

35 I got you covered crackers.

36 Politico has interesting insider politics news before the MFM, but always remember that just like the MFM, they fellate Donks. Imagine Ben Smith sucking on a donkey's dong. Like that.

37 Politico is another DNC rectal polyp

38 http://tinyurl.com/yf27s4f

39 35 Ace surfaced before 2:00 EST? Who had that in the pool?

Not I.  It's a miracle!

40 I'm actually OK with the MFM thumping their chests over this. The thought of them being blindsided in November isn't such a bad one.

41

A total of 80 thousand people voted in the dem house primary (for the full term election in November), while only 46 thousand voted on the republican side.  So you had a good number of people that voted in a dem primary and then turned around and voted for the republican.  So that's an encouraging sign.

And maybe it's good that the idiots who run our party not get too confident.

42 Imagine Ben Smith sucking on a donkey's dong. Like that.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 02:06 PM (ujg0T)

He loved it when I ripped his colon.

43 "All the evidence pointing to... gains this fall...was contradicted Tuesday. Yep, all the evidence is gone. Unemployment is 4%, debt is manageable, businesses are encouraged, the world is a safer place, right? No evidence at all...

44

Voters once again get fooled by the candidate that runs as a "conservative Democrat" who will within 8 milliseconds of taking office will vote whichever way Nancy tells him to.

45

It's nice to see people around here getting a grip. The negative nellies were starting to surge late last night.

I wanted to try and stem the tide but was too intoxicated to make the attempt.

46
Politico insists upon itself f*cking the chicken.

47 Ace, I don't think too many people on here believe a single thing Politico ever says. They are nothing more than a Democrap PR organization much like the MFM.

That said, we did have hopes but, in my case not real high hopes. It IS a gerrymandered Dem district and there is a reason it has gone Democrat so often.

BTW, the MFM is spouting the likewise gerrymandered  SC 5th district is going to be a "hard campaign" for the Dems this year.  That doesn't convert into an automatic win for the Repubs either.

This is pre-election spin for "just in case".

I still predict > 50 seats in the house unless the Repubs go all "big tent" again.

48 20 Ed, I don't know if you are a moby; I do know you're disgusting.

Posted by:Dr. Spank at May 19, 2010 01:57 PM (SbFur)

Heh.  Well, if I have offending someone with the cyber nom-de-plume^* "Dr. Spank" while continuing the time honored AOS tradition of pudding and balls which reached it's finest moment in the election of Scott Brown, then I guess I am just beyond the pale.

By the way, Dr. Spank, don't click on that link, unless you have a really strong stomache.  I mean, this goes way beyond punching the clown, beating your bishop, etc etc etc.  It is real sick shit.  Which is why I dig it.

 

 

*Nom-de-plume is Latin for "Name of the the feather."

49 Special elections are only a referendum on Dems when they win. When a republican wins it is anti-incumbancy. I think ill run with that for the next 6 months then maybe a rehash of some angry white male stories.

50

I live in PA10 aka McDadeland

I was under the impression alexthechick lived in Missouri.

I'd make a lousy stalker...

51   29 Hell, I had my ball shaved, waxed, powdered and ready to dip.

You know who else only had one testicle? First Godwin of the thread. Any prize?

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at May 19, 2010 02:02 PM (IhHdM)

Heh.  There's a long story behind that.  But uh, we'll save that for the overnight thread.

52 35 Ace surfaced before 2:00 EST? Who had that in the pool?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2010 02:05 PM (R2fpr)

I did!

53 a dem runs as a fake-Reagan and away from odumbass and wins in dem gerrymandered district, MFM goes wild that everybody loves odipshit.

54 Screw Politico and Dems they protect.

Burns and the GOP should have brought the hammer down on Critz and Obama.

After all these decades of MSM cover and Dem lies, the Republicans still act all offended and surprised?

Where was the ruthless campaigning?  Why didn't burns rip Critz's heart out?

Where is a Lee Atwater, for whom politics wasn't personal; it was just about winning by disemboweling your opponent and then desecrating his grave.

55

Eh...We can't win 'em ALL...

RACISTS!

 

 

56 Angry white males threw a tantrum and replaced a white male Democrat with another white male Democrat.



brraaiins.

57 More evidence we may be doomed soon:

A top search is "Kate Gosselin Hairstyle"

58 Politico is an arm of the DNC.  Don't be fooled.

59 52

I live in PA10 aka McDadeland

I was under the impression alexthechick lived in Missouri.

I'd make a lousy stalker...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2010 02:10 PM (P33XN)

I thought alexthechick lived in New York.

60 Politico is an arm of the DNC.  Don't be fooled.

Posted by: Truman North at May 19, 2010 02:14 PM (e8YaH)

It's the public version of the JournoList.  Nothing more.  They try to hide it a little bit, but fail miserably.

61 Ace surfaced before 2:00 EST? Who had that in the pool?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2010 02:05 PM (R2fpr)

I did!

Posted by: zombie Jimmy The Greek

 

Congratulations! Please collect all unattached body parts and walk shamble to the customer service window for your free six month subscription.

62 I still predict > 50 seats in the house unless the Repubs go all "big tent" again.

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2010 02:09 PM (6taRI)

So what you're saying is we're fucked?

63 I thought alexthechick lived in New York.

Alexatopia

64 Where is a Lee Atwater, for whom politics wasn't personal; it was just about winning by disemboweling your opponent and then desecrating his grave. Posted by: pam at May 19, 2010 02:13 PM (h8R9p) Talk like this always warms the cockles of my (black and twisted little) heart.

65

So what you're saying is we're fucked?

Posted by: Editor at May 19, 2010 02:17 PM (pUfK9)

Even if the GOP takes 80 seats, we're still fucked. The US will not survive the full term of the Indonesian Imbecile, intact.

66 by the way, I'm not a bit worried about this outcome.  I mean, anyone people willing to vote and elect Jack Murtha for as long as they did get zero consideration from me. 

When they vote correctly they'll get a congratulations from me, but still, zero consideration on what it means to the rest of the country.

67

Voters once again get fooled by the candidate that runs as a "conservative Democrat" who will within 8 milliseconds of taking office will vote whichever way Nancy tells him to.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 19, 2010 02:08 PM (plsiE)

THAT is the point that must be hammered on incessantly: There is NO SUCH THING as a conservative Democrat!

68

Even if the GOP takes 80 seats, we're still fucked. The US will not survive the full term of the Indonesian Imbecile, intact.

This is why I come here--the optimism. It just radiates off the page.

69 Last night on the thread I posted what I thought would be the talking points as read beautifully on the WABC radio national news break.  They lose they say "well it wasn't that important".  They win and they say "well this is the most important election ever".   You can't let the media or the demspin cloud your critical thinking.   The district is predominantly blue collar, former steel workers and coal miners.  These are hard working people who revere the union as the only ones willing to look out for their health and safety in their very dangerous jobs.  Probably a lot of them are on company pension being safely guarded by the union.  You can't ask people who are too proud to go on the public dole and proud that they at least have their company pension to vote against their own good for the good of the nation.  These people have made enough sacrifices, they see the evidence of closed steel mills and mines all around them every day and they see the evidence of closed stores, etc because the local economy just can't support them anymore.  Seriously, cable and the internet are the best thing to happen for areas like this, otherwise they would have had to leave the area.  At least with cable they can still see the world and with the internet they can have a thriving relationship with JC Penny.  Critz said all the right things, knew the constituency, made himself look like a conservative and was able to frame the other guy as a big shot republican spender and taxer, so he won and really, if you think about it, he should have won.   He was Murtha's aid for God's sake.  If he didn't win he would be more of a threat in the future.  At least now he has a chance to go and screw this up.  The union said "vote for this guy and you can be sure your pension will continue and the area in which you live will at least maintain its current stability.  If you vote for the other guy, do so at your own peril"....so the union won, people think of themselves first.

The republican candidate really has to decide now if he has the stomach for a fight, cause he needs to bring one if he has any notion of trying to win.  he really has to pull out all the stops.  You'll know whether he is pulling out all those stops and it will be fascinating to watch.

Really though, you can't let the dems/libs and the media characterize the race, pimp it out for their purposes.   You can't swallow the rhetoric hook line and sinker.  Think for yourself.  analyze it yourself.   A republican win would have been an anomaly and a dem losss would have been a re energization for the dems.   So maybe, just maybe this win, if the republican can somehow muster a little excitement, was a blessing in disguise.

70 I spend all day trolling the internet dropping little raisin-sized turds into the comment sections of conservative blogs.

I am both stupid and unproductive. I also use my real name in my email address. What a dummy I am.

71 In other news, Blanche "I've always depended on the kindness of strangers" Lincoln has to raise a bunch of money for a run-off, against a more liberal candidate.  whoever wins that one will get ripped in Nov.

72 OT - WTF is wrong with Ohio?

Coleman bans city-funded travel to Arizona

Columbus Mayor Michael B. Coleman has banned city-worker travel to Arizona because of that state's new law allowing police to demand documentation from anyone they suspect is in the country illegally.

As with any typical pol, he doesn't have the complete courage of his convictions.

But as Columbus joins a growing number of U.S. cities protesting the Arizona law, Williamson said the mayor has no plans to propose that the city stop doing business entirely with companies based there.

Seattle took that step on Monday.

In Columbus, contracts will be decided on a case-by-case basis, Williamson said. Columbus recently extended its agreement with Phoenix-based Redflex Traffic Systems Inc., which owns and operates the city's 20 red-light cameras. The new contract will double the number of cameras posted at Columbus intersections to issue tickets to red-light-runners.

73 And that goes for my own district where Baghdad Jim McDermot is the guy.  *spit*

I hate commies.

74 We lost in a district with a 2-to-1 Dem-to-Rep registration advantage, that has voted Democrat for as long as anyone can remember, against a Democrat who ran essentially as a Republican. And this is what the Dems are hanging their hopes on. I have to admit I had hopes for this one, but the fact that this is even a story should settle where we're going in November. It's just now a question of how bad is it going to get for the Democrats. The answer may end up being something the Democrats can live with, but I also know "how bad is it going to get?" is not a question any political party wants to be asking.

75 Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 19, 2010 02:20 PM (pLTLS)

I'm optimistic about the continuation of the American creed, which is the only truly important point, just not the continuation of the US as the entity carrying that creed.

76

Barack Obama to depart as President of the United States before midnght ET on 31 Dec 2010 is only at Ask=7.9

Alas.

77

Look how the district has been gerrymandered; the deck was stacked: 

http://tinyurl.com/25djg6b

78

WTF is wrong with Ohio?

How much time do you have? Oh and would you prefer my thesis to include footnotes or endnotes?

79

Drudge currently has a picture of one really mean looking bitch:

http://www.drudgereport.com/

80 Intrade posted big positive movement for the Dems to remain in control of the House, it is now 61%.

Why do people put such faith in Intrade?  It's a bunch of people paying for the chance to guess stuff.

81 73 McCain carried PA12. The voter there WILL vote Republican if they feel it is in their best interests. Intrade posted big positive movement for the Dems to remain in control of the House, it is now 61%. And Obama is also at 61% for re-election. And the Dems have been positive on the generic Congressional ballot on RealClearPolitics for a few days now. Sex scandals and oil slicks both hurt the GOP and when the slick hit FL Rubio will take a hit.

Intrade, the final arbiter of elections!  That must be why Martha Coakley is the new Senator from MA, right?   And RCP, teh most accurate polling outfit in the entire world, have the Dems up on the generic ballot?   I see the writing on the wall for the Repubs now, thanks crackdragon!  *sobs*.

82

Columbus Mayor Michael B. Coleman has banned city-worker travel to Arizona

Well, maybe that's good news for the tax payers of Columbus...but they'll probably just develop a "need" to travel elsewhere.

83 Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 19, 2010 02:20 PM (pLTLS)

The Ineligible Imbecile from Indonesia just said, "We are not defined by our borders." 

I rest my case.

84

THAT is the point that must be hammered on incessantly: There is NO SUCH THING as a conservative Democrat!

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 19, 2010 02:19 PM (OtQXp)

Anybody that can't remember the blue dogs putting their tails between their legs and slinking off like worthless gutless curs to do the bidding of Tommy D'Allesandro's slut daughter when push came to shove on Bamreilosi Death Care, is too stupid to vote.

85 McCain carried PA12. The voter there WILL vote Republican if they feel it is in their best interests. Intrade posted big positive movement for the Dems to remain in control of the House, it is now 61%. And Obama is also at 61% for re-election. And the Dems have been positive on the generic Congressional ballot on RealClearPolitics for a few days now. Sex scandals and oil slicks both hurt the GOP and when the slick hit FL Rubio will take a hit.

Posted by: Georgie

Doubtful. McCain carried it by 900 voes, and that was after his opponent insulted the people of that region, and handled the follow up badly. They actually split the ticket, voting for McCain and then voting  for Mr. Ethics (Murtha). The fact that he later insulted them and received a pass should indicate something to you. These people will vote to hang on to what they see as a pork bringer at the Rep level, but can be shaken from that on the national level. Whether that translates to splitting at the state level (Gov) I can't say without research.

86 McCain carried PA12. Against a hater.
The voter there WILL vote Republican if they feel it is in their best interests. Hopefully in Nov.
 Intrade posted big positive movement for the Dems to remain in control of the House, it is now 61%. Big deal, gamble $10.
 And Obama is also at 61% for re-election. And at 45% approval of likelies.
 And the Dems have been positive on the generic Congressional ballot on RealClearPolitics for a few days now. Averages suck in statistics.  A tie = +5% repub.
Sex scandals and oil slicks both hurt the GOP and when the slick hit FL Rubio will take a hit. Massa, Salazar, Obama are gop?  Rubio has the lead, will win going away.

87

McCain carried PA12.

Of course he did, my constituents are all racist rednecks.

88

I thought alexthechick lived in New York.

And I thought she was a Jersey girl.

 

89

LOL Drudge.

He's got a picture of Rachel Maddow. The article that goes with that pic is right below, but right above the photo is a link to another article that says, "Baby, I'm a man"

I'm sure that was entirely accidental...

90 Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

me too

91

Heartache...

This Politico article really depressing me, because I'm just a butt-sniffing twat.

 

92 #86  Well, maybe that's good news for the tax payers of Columbus...but they'll probably just develop a "need" to travel elsewhere.

LA most likely.  They'll need the extra business once AZ counter-boycotts and shuts LA down. 

In the end, there will be only chaos...and chaos is fair.

93 92

I thought alexthechick lived in New York.

And I thought she was a Jersey girl.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

She's not who we thought she was...

94

These people will vote to hang on to what they see as a pork bringer at the Rep level, but can be shaken from that on the national level.

PA 12 is just the white hunky version of any jerrymandered AA district that depends on entitlements - think Cynthia McKinney. And I do mean "hunky", not honky.

95

first tingles...now vibrations.

Yeeesh

http://tinyurl.com/343asxo

 

96 And how does voting for McCain in 2008 make them any less Democrat?

97 Even if the GOP takes 80 seats, we're still fucked. The US will not survive the full term of the Indonesian Imbecile, intact.

I think if we can take the House (where funding bills are supposed to originate) and take the Senate to the Dems only having a small majority we still will have a chance.

if we don't we will not survive the full four years. He will continue spending and his "bipartisan commission" of 2/3 Dems and 1/3 RINOs will call for increased taxes and a VAT. We will go into a massive depression which the current population is not equipped to handle.

The Urban areas will go into full riot mode and martial law will be declared.

End of Republic.

98 In the end, there will be only chaos...and chaos is fair.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 19, 2010 02:29 PM (9hSKh)

and fun to watch!

99

Democrats have a chance in November. Not Clinton Democrats or Obama Democrats, but Iwhvahcr* Democrats. They'll take office, vote for cap & trade, and take cushy jobs when the Iwhvacat** Democrats take their place next time around. They'll work closely with Angela Davis's administration come 2017.

* = I would have voted against health care reform

** = ditto, cap and trade

100 And I thought she was a Jersey girl.

No that's just the fashion sense. 

101

1945 - Politico: Maybe the Nazi aren't doomed

1865 - Politico: Maybe the Confederacy isn't doomed

1781 - Politico: Maybe the British Empire in the 13 colonies isn't doomed

 

102 Pen-12 is a very blue district that has come to think of bringing home the pork as good governance. For the last 30 years the area has consistently received large amounts of government hand outs due to Murtha. These people have been checking the box next to the D for 30 years, it isn't going to change over night. The Democrat who won also ran against Obama. Republicans need to understand that people dislike them as much as the Democrats, its just that the Dems are in power right now. If you make the election about shrinking government vs. growing government then you will when in many areas in November. If you make it about Republican vs. Democrat, then at best you might break even.   

103

#77 "We lost in a district with a 2-to-1 Dem-to-Rep registration advantage, that has voted Democrat for as long as anyone can remember, against a Democrat who ran essentially as a Republican."

Exactly. This was not a "big one," except in the desperate and deluded minds of democrats. But let them think it. It is comforting to see their stupidity and arrogance reaffirmed. As for Politico, the opening paragraph underscores what a hack party organ they are: "All the evidence" is "contradicted." Really? ALL the evidence? ALL the nationwide evidence? In one special election when a conservative democrat who disavowed his party wins? Pathetic.

104

The Urban areas will go into full riot mode and martial law will be declared

But we'll still get our checks and federal pork bills, right?

105 100

first tingles...now vibrations.

Yeeesh

http://tinyurl.com/343asxo

 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 19, 2010 02:31 PM (pr+up)

word!

106

Even if the GOP takes 80 seats, we're still fucked. The US will not survive the full term of the Indonesian Imbecile, intact.

Damn it, don't y'all remember the late 1970's? Things really were in the shit then. We have been thru worse.

107 Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2010 02:31 PM (6taRI)

I hear you, but Executive power is just too encompassing, now, and the GOP don't have the balls to stop it.  On top of that, we have external events that can serve to push us over the edge (as The Precedent is looking for anything to be able to push this nation to true crisis).  There is the European monetary problems, the chance that Israel finally hits Iran, China flexing its muscle more (encouraged by this traitorous administration as they just tried to ally with China in an attack on an American state - WTF?), and the fact that we have the Executive branch inviting total monetary collapse every way they can.  They will just switch to Executive orders and federal regulation when they lose Congress, and the damage that they can do through that (have been doing, already) is much more than our nation could withstand.

It's the US or The Precedent.  Both will not make it through his term intact.

108 I bet Rachel Maddow smells like aftershave.

109

And I thought she was a Jersey girl.

No that's just the fashion sense. 

Heh. All I know is if I hadn't met and married the right one already I'd be making an epic Moron trip to get an autograph. :-)

 

110 The bad news for Democrats is that with nearly a 20% larger turnout of Democrats than Republicans, they only won by 8%.

I blame the Specter/Sestak Senate race for drawing more Democrats.
The Republican primary was a snozzer.

111 I was slightly wrong above.  Raz has new today, O at 44% of likelies and -19 on the passion index.

112

#102

Vic,

You are so right.

113 Maybe the Democrats Aren't Doomed, Says Politico

Well, yeah, they're going to say that.  Politico is a Dem mouthpiece.

114

Damn it, don't y'all remember the late 1970's? Things really were in the shit then. We have been thru worse.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 02:35 PM (ujg0T)

No.  This is the worst situation the US has ever had to contend with.  We have never had a true America-hater running the Executive branch and the media enthusiastically supporting his every move.  This is a different situation.  And we have no room for error, as the "full faith and credit" in any of our institutions has been depleted.

115

In Columbus, contracts will be decided on a case-by-case basis, Williamson said. Columbus recently extended its agreement with Phoenix-based Redflex Traffic Systems Inc., which owns and operates the city's 20 red-light cameras. The new contract will double the number of cameras posted at Columbus intersections to issue tickets to red-light-runners.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 19, 2010 02:21 PM (9hSKh)

I smell some constitutional issues with that shit. Of course, when the Pubbies take back Congress, I would expect that Ohio will have to sell some pussy to get a lot of Fed money.

Don't fuck with the exploding Sun Belt

116

1945 - Politico: Maybe the Nazi aren't doomed

1865 - Politico: Maybe the Confederacy isn't doomed

1781 - Politico: Maybe the British Empire in the 13 colonies isn't doomed

1780 - Politico: maybe the French can turn back the Prussians

1904 - Politico: maybe the Russian fleet isn't doomed at Tshushima

1942 - Politico: maybe the German Sixth army at Stalingrad isn't doomed

1954 - Politico: maybe French rule in Indochina isn't doomed (live reporting from advance base at Dien Bien Phu)

117 I also want to point out that Western Pennsylvania was personally insulted by Obama and the Pen-12 district still only barely voted for McCain.

118 Murtha's district leans pork.

I never had any illusoin that Rs would win Murtha's seat ...

119 Politico said I was good to go at Waterloo.

120 Politico said I was good to go at Waterloo.

Posted by: Napoleon

 

I cancelled my subscription. They so totally led me to believe that I could pull it out I don't know how many times.

121

Maybe Crassus isn't doomed. If he can avoid the treacherous Armenian foothills and face the Parthians on the open plain, he can deploy his German cavalry and give those bactrian-camel-humpers a jolly good thrashing.

Besides, arrows don't even hurt very much.

122
in b4 the Romney bashing and the blaming of the social conservatives

123 the night before this election John Batchelor kept trying to get Selena Zito, a reporter who really knows PA to say that the republican was going to have a win.  To her credit, she wouldn't say it, she kept cautioning John that it was going to be an interesting race and it was possible that Critz, Murtha's aide would pull it out.  Everything she said was right.  Sometimes I think we need to listen more carefully to the people who truly know about a district and not the political reporters like Batchelor who was oeprating in "wishful thinking mode".  Batchelor is good, but he's human too.  someone said the republican pollsters blew it last night.  yeah, they did.  And all the burns people had to do was listen to Selena Zito's remarks and maybe Burns could have narrowed the margin.

124 Maybe laid off Newsweek hacks can get a job at Politico.

125 Politico said I was good to go at Waterloo.

Posted by: Napoleon

 

You'd think that after their analysis on your proposed Russian adventure you'd be a tad more gun-shy.

126

I wonder where are Romney, Giulianni & McConnel are today...

 

127 Heh. All I know is if I hadn't met and married the right one already I'd be making an epic Moron trip to get an autograph. :-)

Awww thanks!  You really did just make my day.

128 Politico is in the tank to the left where the global marxofascists swim. Obama the Fraud has some explaining to do with using multiple Social Security Numbers for many, many different places of residence throughout the country. The document is 39 smoking pages. http://www.scribd.com/doc/31453666/Neil-Sankey- Barack-Hussein-Obama-Addresses-SS-Numbers

129
We'll see what happens this weekend in HI. That race is supposedly a lock for the GOP. If we lose this weekend, we do indeed have no reason to be optimistic. I don't care if that district is 'deep blue' or whatever, the Democrats have practically conceded the election.

We better win the election, is all I'm saying.

130 I hope the Dems take politico to hart. We couldn't even win that seat when McCain won the district and Murtha called his voters ignorant racists. Of course Murtha seems to have been right about that and they were just giving him his due.

131 "the Democrats have practically conceded the election.

We better win the election, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: Mr Peebles at May 19, 2010 02:47 PM (uFokq)"

that phrase about the dems practically conceding the election is scary.  Maybe it is a tactic so that when the acorns are falling all over the place they can act pleased and surprised.

132 Let's keep in mind too that PA-12 isn't so much "conservative" as it is "populist."  So long as the Dems run pro-life, pro-gun socialists, they're good to go.

133

No.  This is the worst situation the US has ever had to contend with.  We have never had a true America-hater running the Executive branch and the media enthusiastically supporting his every move.  This is a different situation.  And we have no room for error, as the "full faith and credit" in any of our institutions has been depleted.

Whoa. By 1979-80, we had a full court press by a liberal media, empowered post-Watergate, that harped about how horrid Uncle Ron would be. Regular race-baiting and accusations of warmongery were against Uncle Ron full blast.

We had no alternative against said media. No serious talk radio; there were local rightist hosts, but nothing nationwide. Cable TV news wasn't there yet, lib Walter Cronkite commanded the nation's respect.

Ted Kennedy was making a very serious bid for President in 1980.

Gasoline was price controlled and rationed.

The Soviet Empire, far more dangerous and murderous than the Islamunist goons, was conquering whole swaths of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. The Euros were even bigger weenies then too, with actual bona fide Communist parties commanding significant shares of the vote on the Continent. Labour in the UK was essentially out and out Communist.

Meanwhile at home, off duty soldiers got into their civvies as quickly as possible, so as to not be looked askance if not spat at by liberal pinkoes.

Full faith and credit? The general view of government was utterly cynical--which Uncle Ron successfully boomeranged against the Left--but people despaired. I remember a Print Advertisement for Whirlpool Appliances of all companies, asking "Is This Country In The Autumn Of Its Time?" while boasting about how they were still making quality appliances in small print. Doom and despair was the Zeitgeist.

Maybe you are right that such a Zeitgeist is better than the mindless sheeple going ga-ga about Michelle's abs or about how well spoken our Mulatto Marxist in office is, but seriously, it has been really bad before.

134 We'll see what happens this weekend in HI. That race is supposedly a lock for the GOP. If we lose this weekend, we do indeed have no reason to be optimistic. I don't care if that district is 'deep blue' or whatever, the Democrats have practically conceded the election.

We better win the election, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: Mr Peebles at May 19, 2010 02:47 PM (uFokq)

Now we are depending on winning Hawaii to decide our fate? Frickin Hawaii, really? Hell yeah, we should be winning in downtown D. C. too. Jesus. You do know that Obama is Hawaii's favorite son don't you? You also know that the reason it is even close is because 2 democrats are splitting the vote? If there was only one democrat we would be losing by 30 points.

135 We'll see what happens this weekend in HI. That race is supposedly a lock for the GOP. If we lose this weekend, we do indeed have no reason to be optimistic. I don't care if that district is 'deep blue' or whatever, the Democrats have practically conceded the election.

We better win the election, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: Mr Peebles

 

We'd better win an election being conducted solely through mail in balloting??? I'd be pleasantly surprised if the number of ballots received is only slightly in excess of the number of people who live, and who ever have lived in Hawaii.If the DNC ever got hold of the 1,000 monkeys attempting to type Shakespeare and armed them with stamps and a xerox machine then it's game over.

136

Awww thanks!  You really did just make my day.

Could you post a picture on the Yahoo AOSHQ site by chance?

137 Drudge's pictures are full of win today, between the ever-pleasant M'cel, Reid looking healthy and well-rested, and Nancy Incognito.

138

@ 139

Wow, I'm old and I can't remember half that stuff. But, yeah, the MFM was very much against Ronaldus Magnus at the time. Sounds just like the venom they hurl towards SarahCuda today.

139

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most important, separate yourself from your national partyÂ’s policies and politicians as necessary.


In other words, LIE, LIE, LIE

140 Backwards - never forget Leonard Nimoy Sam Donaldson.

141

And we have no room for error, as the "full faith and credit" in any of our institutions has been depleted.

Oh you mean that in a financial sense. Well in 1979-1980, inflation was running at about 20%. You could watch the prices rise in the grocery store month by month if not week by week.Official currency devaluations were announced and this was treated as necessary by the RINOs and good for exports by the Commiecrats.

I know Obama sucks and the Pelosi and Reid Commiecrats are horrid, but Carter sucked no less, the Tip O'Neill and Kennedy Commiecrats were no less horrid and there was still a Soviet Empire menacing.

And when *I*, pessimistic Curmudgeon am the optimistic Moron, well, wow. I don't think I'm deluding myself, honestly.

142

1980 - Politico: Maybe Carter's presidency isn't doomed

1984 - Politico: Maybe Mondale's campaign isn't doomed

1990 - Politico: Maybe the Soviet Union isn't doomed

143 Burns pulled 45% of the vote in a district where Democrats have a 2-1 registration advantage.  He did this despite not having any real GOP statewide race to attract GOP voters, and he did it against what would have been Murtha's hand-picked successor if the old fart had retired instead of dying.  Critz ran a race that most Republican candidates could win on.  Against Cap-and-trade.  Against Obamacare.  Against amnesty / Pro AZ immigration statute.  Pro-life.  Pro-gun. Pro-business.

Six months from now, after a possible second mortgage bubble burst and continued high unemployment, lets see how the rematch goes.  Burns has six months to learn what he can do better the second time around.

I'm a conservative.  Therefore, I am optimistic. 

144 You know months ago I began asking you guys about "all these executive orders".  No one wanted to even discuss them.  I was patted on the head and told to go over there and sit quietly cause "all the presidents have them".   And I was like "but, but, but, all the presidents might have them but this president's executive orders seem a little odd to me".   Anyways...we need to be looking at and discussing the executive orders and what their purposes are.

145 Worse times: 1970's (see Crudge above), 1930's Depression/dustbowl, 1920's Wilson and Fascism, 1860's (Shiloh, Antietem Creek, etc), ... http://tinyurl.com/27mcgdx

146 Antietem -- Antietam sorry

147 My great gramps got on a boat at the age of thirteen by himself and came to this country through ellis island.  13, alone.  He then proceeded to work and bring over the rest of his brothers and sisters and then his parents.  Can you imagine coming here at 13 and knowing that you were going to have to work to bring over your 13 sibs and your two parents?   I often wonder what those people had, what kind of fire was in them to make them be able to accomplish the seemingly impossible tasks that they accomplished.  Whenever I think maybe things aren't working out for the best I think of my great gramps and I think, those genes are in me somewhere and I'm going to try and draw them out.

148

 23 -- His Congressional chief of Staff was running on Murtha's record.

Au contraire.  Rush ripped this to pieces today and said that Critz ran as the "Rush Limbaugh candidate."  I have to admit, I was disheartened to see Critz win, but Rush laid it out in black and white.  No blather, no spin.  If you can download today's show, do it.  By taking to heart what Politico has spun, you're buying into the myth.  Critz ran on everything Murtha opposed.   This district is 2-1 D.  There were 100,000 union members alone voting like they were told to vote. 

149 but seriously, it has been really bad before.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 02:51 PM (ujg0T)

I remember the 70's very well.  I don't have the energy to go into everything, but to my mind, there is no comparison, at all.  The credit crisis of 2008 marked a very serious point of departure for this nation - an indication that we are operating on a totally different plane, now.  Yes, we had the prime rate at 18% before and we had stagflation and all sorts of problems, including a total moron in the White House, but that just doesn't compare to our current monetary situation and the fact that we have a true America-hater, who has not even the least amount of American sensibilities, in the White House, who, himself, is bent on the destruction of our nation.  There is just a major difference between having an American in charge (even one who hates America) and having a foreigner (as the Indonesian Imbecile is a foreigner in everything about him, regardless of whether he holds an American passport).  This should have been driven home to most when we saw how he got a kick out of running our legislative processes into the ground (no "American" would have pushed the Porkulus or the health scare like that, as we know from history).  And the media being behind him (more than any other Chief-Executive, ever) and happy to foment racial animus in defense, lends more than a sharp edge to all this.

No.  These are very different times.  At least, I have no doubt about that.  There are many other particulars that I could go into (and I usually do) but I will spare you.

150

Lyndon LaRouche is a serious contender for public office.

151 #149

Did Burns run on REPEAL?

Did he badger his opponent with that question?

152

@ 139

Wow, I'm old and I can't remember half that stuff.

I was born late 1967 and only a little kid then, albeit a precocious one. Maybe it all just got burned into the CD-ROM of my mind. (I know there were no such things back then, heh). I just remember how dirgelike it all was, about how we would have to accept "an era of limits" in the words of both Jimmuh Carturd and then Governor (and God forbid possibly future Governor again) Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown. Small wonder there were news reports of more than a few pre-teen kids drinking the Drano. A pall of despair and doom seemed to cover everything.

153 I wonder how long it will take the PA-12 voters to realize that without Murtha's seniority, Critz will be sending a LOT less pork home.  That and Odumbos's plan to bankrupt the coal industry are going to be bitter pills to swallow.  But fuck 'em, they deserve it.

154

No.  These are very different times.  At least, I have no doubt about that.  There are many other particulars that I could go into (and I usually do) but I will spare you.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2010 03:13 PM (Qp4DT)

After reading The Forgotten Man, I find far more similarities between Obama and FDR than Obama and Carter. Particularly his animus for the private sector.

155 Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2010 03:13 PM (Qp4DT)

I really think you should write a post up and email it to ace.  You've had so many fascinating comments it would be nice to see them all in one cohesive thread where everyone will see them as opposed to being fortunate enough to come upon them in a thread on another topic.

156 Posted by: Ed Anger at May 19, 2010 03:24 PM (7+pP9)

That is one scary book.  Between that book and Beck, you could easily wonder why more people aren't up in arms.

157

I just remember how dirgelike it all was, about how we would have to accept "an era of limits" in the words of both Jimmuh Carturd and then Governor (and God forbid possibly future Governor again) Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.

On a follow-up note, note how those "limits" only applied to private citizens and private enterprise, *never* the government. Nuh uh. Did I mention how I loathe Commiecrats?

158 Posted by: curious at May 19, 2010 03:24 PM (p302b)

Thanks, curious.  I think I'll stick to shouting from the sidelines, though.  I repeat these things often enough that most run into them at one point or another, I think.

159

We voted for our homeboy's SEAT. We seasoned citizen's gotta stand by our own, yo.

And we gotta give a shoutout to our well armed leader, Dicky Denzel Blumenthal.

160 After reading The Forgotten Man, I find far more similarities between Obama and FDR than Obama and Carter. Particularly his animus for the private sector.

I view Obama as an amalgamation of both of them. He haqs the economic philosophy of FDR and the foreign policy of Carter. The only difference is that he ius much further to the left of both of them and he is starting from a point that is already further to the left than both of them had when they became President and intends to take things even further into the communist front.

That is why these times are so dangerous and why if we can't stop him this year we are doomed.

161 Politico is a collection of Democratic hacks who were or were about to be downsized at their MSM jobs.

PA-12 is NOT a "big one."  It is competitive in presidential elections, NOT in its House races.  The only Republicans who've won there since 1936 were those redistricted into the seat as incumbents.  The last Republican to hold the seat at all was John Saylor, who died in office shortly after winning it in 1973.

Primaries are over, Politico!  You can go back to perusing your Blue Boys now.

162

Conservatives of all stripes look to David Frum as the future of the Republican Party.

163

I remember the 70's very well.  I don't have the energy to go into everything, but to my mind, there is no comparison, at all. 

Someone else asked Ace (or Drew, or LauraW, or Dave In Texas whoever with Moron Posting power is reading this) to start an "Are We Doomed--Yes or No" topic.

I heartily second that. I think it needs hashing out. When normally I, the World's Greatest Pessimist, is defending (real GOP) Hope and (after November 2010 and November 2012) Change, something is odd.

The credit crisis of 2008 marked a very serious point of departure for this nation - an indication that we are operating on a totally different plane, now.  Yes, we had the prime rate at 18% before and we had stagflation and all sorts of problems, including a total moron in the White House, but that just doesn't compare to our current monetary situation

Really? You do realize the giddy irresponsibility of massive spending increases in a declining economy is not new? I remember how the Demunists screamed about Uncle Ron's nominal deficits--never mind that in real (as a % of GDP) terms, they were falling, because GDP was growing so much.

and the fact that we have a true America-hater, who has not even the least amount of American sensibilities, in the White House, who, himself, is bent on the destruction of our nation. 

Remember the Nuclear Freezeniks? The Sandinista pole-suckers? This 5th Column isn't new, although how it camoflagued itself and won an election sadly may be.

This should have been driven home to most when we saw how he got a kick out of running our legislative processes into the ground (no "American" would have pushed the Porkulus or the health scare like that, as we know from history). 

Zombie Tip O'Neill and Zombie Ted Kennedy might have a bone to pick with you about that (no pun intended).

164 After reading The Forgotten Man, I find far more similarities between Obama and FDR than Obama and Carter. Particularly his animus for the private sector.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 19, 2010 03:24 PM (7+pP9)

To add to what Vic said, I would draw a distinction between FDR and The Precedent in their motivations.  FDR, as much of a power-hungry socialist/fascist as he desired to be, and as much contempt as he had for private enterprise, was still an American who loved the nation.  He thought he was doing good for America. 

The Precedent is not driven by any liking for America.  Quite the opposite.  I don't think The Precedent really cares much about leftist political theories, partly because he's too stupid to understand them, and partly because he just doesn't care.  I don't believe that The Precedent is trying to change America into "anything" in particular.  He is more like the French Revolutionaries, who were driven by an insane desire to just destroy all vestiges of tradition and to put organized Christianity into the ground, for good.  Of course, The Precedent has not even 1/100th the talent or intelligence of the French Revolutionaries (thank G-d) and is not driven to destroy tradition and our society for the same reason.  The Precedent just wants to exact revenge on us for the third world.  He wants us to feel the pain that he thinks we deserve.  I have been quite convinced of this since before the election and have not seen anything to change my mind.

Just ot illustrate the difference between FDR and The Precedent, I think we can look at capital gains taxes.  The hypothetical was posed to the Indonesian Imbecile that receipts to the government would fall with a raising of capital gains taxes.  Given that assumption, The Precedent said taht he would still raise the taxes (hurting the poor along with the rich) because he considered it a matter of "fairness".  FDR, I believe, would have not given that answer, since he believed more in actual redistribution.  The Precedent believes in retribution more than redistribution.  Add to that that he is foreign in his thinking and feelings and you have the makings of something horrible that our nation has not had to encounter before and for which we don't have the margin of error to survive, as an intact nation.

That's how I see it, at least.

165 @ 157

Burns ran on repeal.  Critz' position was that he'd have voted against it but would not support repeal.

166 I see more between Obama and Wilson then FDR. FDR was an elite for whom the job was nobiliesse oblige Obama is "academic", vanguard of the revolution type - who is a tool of elites.

167

-->Really? You do realize the giddy irresponsibility of massive spending increases in a declining economy is not new? I remember how the Demunists screamed about Uncle Ron's nominal deficits--never mind that in real (as a % of GDP) terms, they were falling, because GDP was growing so much.

I wasn't addressing fiscal policy, but monetary armaggedon.  They are different animals, and monetary collapse of the dollar would be a truly unique event in history, as no other monetary system that has collapsed has ever been the glue of world trade and the various monetary systems.  We are not Weimar, nor Albania, nor Zimbabwe, nor Iceland, nor any of the other monetary systems that have come crashing down.  The US dollar is a different story, altogether.

-->Remember the Nuclear Freezeniks? The Sandinista pole-suckers? This 5th Column isn't new, although how it camoflagued itself and won an election sadly may be.

Yes, I remember them.  That's why I laughed when people talked about how Europe hated Bush. They didn't remember.  But, the Cold War put a limit on many things and kept much of American policy within constrained borders - by necessity.  It was after the fall of the USSR that we first truly empowered the UN (one of the dumbest acts, ever) and that things changed in America to truly endanger us.  Before, the anti-war nutjobs were just running around all hopped up in the streets.  Now, they are in the White House and Congress and in the courts.  That is a serious move to another level - and I tend to tell people that as the radicals of the 60's have now seized power, this will end the same way the 60's ended, but 10000 times worse because the whackjobs are holding the levers of power.

[[[This should have been driven home to most when we saw how he got a kick out of running our legislative processes into the ground (no "American" would have pushed the Porkulus or the health scare like that, as we know from history). 

-->Zombie Tip O'Neill and Zombie Ted Kennedy might have a bone to pick with you about that (no pun intended).

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2010 03:39 PM (ujg0T)

No.  No Congress would have pushed legistlation through after the Town Halls and the like, and certainly not as they were crowing about how no one could even read what was in the bill.  Things are different.  They are different because we really have a non-natural born citizen in the White House (certainly in spirit, in addition to his technical non-natural status) who has nothing but total contempt for us and our institutions.  He wants nothing but to destroy those.  In that attempt, he hides behind his skin - threatening race riots whenever he gets in a jam, and the threat or fear of which has kept many at bay for a whole lot of stupid shit, not least of which the actual natural born citizen question) - the media is 1000% behind him, and white guilt is the powerful force keeping the nation from defending itself.

168 Heh. All I know is if I hadn't met and married the right one already I'd be making an epic Moron trip to get an autograph. :-)

Make sure you wear the safety helmet that S Weasel designed for Moron Nation as you transit the US on that mini-bike, ala Dumb and Dumber! We don't want any claims on Obamacare out there!

So, you're saying there's a chance?

169

Make sure you wear the safety helmet that S Weasel designed for Moron Nation as you transit the US on that mini-bike, ala Dumb and Dumber! We don't want any claims on Obamacare out there!

And on that note...

170

@13: "And God willing, we'll have enough to defund Obama care."

And what magical party do you speak of that has members actually willing to defund ObizzleCare?  It sure as shit isn't the Republicans.  They just want to give it a little trim here and there.

Not that it likely matters much anyway - when the economy collapses, the gummint machine goes with it.

171

The PA-12 district is gerrymanded beyond belief. 

http://tinyurl.com/23yxnbw

See how it tortuously maps the 'post- industrial, wouldn't mind some free stuff from D.C.' demographic. Johnstown, Uniontown, Washington.  It's the 'I'll vote for Murtha' district. That's why it was created. How could a Murtha clone not win there?

I'm not sure I believe the predictive power of polls in this case. I think the outcome was guaranteed from the beginning.

And could Newt just putter around at home and drink his Metamucil? He's a shadow of what he was in '94, a  bad joke. He does not speak for me. Does he speak for you? I thought not. Keep him out of sight like the crazy aunt in the attic.

 

 

 

 

172

@83: "Why do people put such faith in Intrade?  It's a bunch of people paying for the chance to guess stuff."

The same argument can be made for the DJIA, S&P 500, Hang Seng, Nikkei, etc.

173

The ideology of both FDR and Obama have to be taken in the context of their times.  After the Russian revolution it was widely assumed that capitalism was in decline and socialism was the system of the future.  Politicians like FDR often thought they were preventing a cataclysmic revolution by instituting national controls of economic activities. We certainly know better now but those like Obama cling to the socialist model because of the power it places in the hands of self described intellectuals. 

174 The same argument can be made for the DJIA, S&P 500, Hang Seng, Nikkei, etc.

Except for the non-zero sum nature of industrial equities, and the multi-trillion dollars sums involved, but mostly, the multi-trillion dollars sums involved.

175 Uh yeah no they are doomed actually. DOOMED. KABOOM.

176 Led watch watch led watches led led wrist watch

177  test

178 Really this is amazing to know this. To return someone his voice is a great work. Hope this technology would be used rapidly and vastly.