1 you can't divide by zero and get any other number Ace.....

Harry Reid-anonymous Democrat

2 OT

Check this out. Wonder why the MSM hasn't been on this?

Just guessing.   http://tinyurl.com/23wgj8a

Remember Linda Smith and the coverage that got? 

3 Let’s consider life in NYC with the “Victory Mosque”

This will be the biggest domestic target for those with Islamophobia.
The first “crazy” to “procure” a plane (or other large movable object) will be heading for Manhattan with one target in mind.
Mayor Bloomberg should consider that NYC will spend more money defending the “Victory Mosque” than it currently does protecting the kleptocrats over at the UN.

4 Do you agree with Obama on the ground zero victory mosque?

Needs to be asked daily of every Dem candidate till the election.

5 I wonder if this guy finds lieing for money as easy as it looks? I would figure trying to convince people there is a conservative bias in the press would be a pretty tough job.

6 These liberals have preached the greatness of their Marxist wet dreams for decadess.  Now in complete control, they have the problem that they don't work and aren't wanted.  President Uniter is really the divider, their bailouts to save us are destroying us, the hype of lower unemployment has given us higher unemployment. 

It's like they promised a cold fusion car that would revolutionize our country.  Finally people believed,  they got funding and the car is rolling off the line ... but of course it doesn't work, and people ain't buying the hype anymore.  Now, like Lucy, they have some explainin' to do.

It would be comical, except for the tragedy of it.

7 Every story I see on this reports how the Obama position is right and then goes on to murder the strawman "religious freedom". Btw anyone else see paralels between this and the Dubai Ports Deal? Go get Harry Reids comments on that. I'm sure they will look hilarious in context now.

8 Red Eye's classic MMFA takedown.

9 As the cliff gets closer, the language gets stupider.

10 More from Red Eye: Media Matters Sleepover

11 "At least it's George Soros paying him and not our tax dollars and our Justice Department."

For now. Dictator Obama will need many propogandists. It would only make sense to take over and have the middle and lower classes fund them, and leave the uber-rich economy destroying mega-libs to fund the Democrat party.

12 This douche gets paid to write this stuff, and I get to sit in a cube and interface with government drones.  The irony, it defenestrates...

13

That could be particularly damaging to moderate Democrats in conservative-leaning districts, already 2010Â’s most vulnerable contenders.

Moderate Democrats?  Rotflmao.. boy, what a joke that is - there is no such thing as a moderate democrat.  The only time democrats vote against the party line on anything is when their votes won't really count toward the final outcome.  If it matters and the vote is needed they'll vote strict party line every single time without fail, no matter how much of a disaster the bill in question might be.

I'd love to see the MSM stop pushing this myth called the moderate democrat.  I believe bigfoot sightings have more credibility overall.

14 WTF. It's NYC. WGAF?  I guarantee that if the terrorists had been Christians or Jews there would be no church or synagogue going up on Ground Zero. Hard to feel sorry for shitheads of that magnitude. They reelect a massive dirt brain for Mayor, So WTF? Can you feel sorry for them when they get hammered? Fool me once.....

15 Stalin would have loved as good a press agent as widdle Ewik.

16 Soros gets plenty of indirect funding from Obama's actions ... eg.  gulf moratorium sends rig to (even deeper water) site off Brazil, where Soros is invested.  Soros having his fingers in all decisions from this administration will prove plenty costly.

17

The post has a time stamp of 10:55pm but the first comment appears at 9:01am.  Is Ace in a different time zone, could he be bending time or has he ascendend to another dimension?

You never know what you will get on this blog.

18 Mayor Bloomberg should consider that NYC will spend more money defending the “Victory Mosque” than it currently does protecting the kleptocrats over at the UN.

Yeah, I'm sure the police and fire depts are thrilled about that prospect. Why do we owe special security to a controversial mosque?

19

Why do we owe special security to a controversial mosque?

Tattoo, see, this is what the Saudis faced when the application arrived to build a Christian church anywhere in the kingdom.  Being a poor country they can't afford the extra expense.

20 Who are they? Is it a real estate firm that owns it? A company? Is it privately owned?

It was bought in 2006 by Sharif El-Gamal, connected through relatives to the Arab League, former waiter and now CEO of SoHo Properties. The land was sold for $4.6 million, and ConEd owns half of it. That's why it's important that a Republican wins the NY state Governor's race.

21 I guarantee that if the terrorists had been Christians or Jews there would be no church or synagogue going up on Ground Zero.

That's the message the government is reinforcing. "We won't take you people seriously until you start sawing off heads and blowing up buildings." But they will use that as an opportunity to establish martial law, if that ever comes to pass. Because they don't give a fuck about you. They want your money and everything Americans have worked hard to build here throughout the years.

22

I am having a hard time following this one especially cause there are no links - yes, I know, we don't want to punch down and throw them traffic, but it seems like Boehlert is saying, hey, great journalism, you are saying that Dems are grousing but don't actually quote any Dems grousing. 

Which sounds like a valid criticism.  But without pointers to the actual articles, hard to tell.  Ace, you go on to say that he is saying "background" is not valid for reporting.  Which is an entirely different question/answer. 

 

23 Moderate   Democrat.  I don't think those words go together.  My congressman was differnt.  He had scruples and morals and could not be bought.  Unfortunately, he was a moderat democrat.  His name is Stupak.  I never voted for him, but lots of my neighbors were fooled.

24 Would it be fair to say,

Democrats are scattering like a bunch of cockroaches, when the light is turned on?

25 That's why it's important that a Republican wins the NY state Governor's race.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 17, 2010 09:38 AM (mHQ7T)

 

Um, yeah. ^ Barney Frank logic. ^ _{(Tattoo has to be a New Yawker.)}  

26 The Democrats are like the mob. Their constituents admire corruption, and the elected officials run machine style political rackets. The Muslims now, and sure it's not all of them, but read the polls what they really think about AQ, the wars, the Jews, etc. They are the new Irish, Italians, whatever immigrant wave can be rallied to pull the lever for their party. That's how the Democrats look at it. They will rationalize the human rights abuses toward women, gays and children, because they want power at any cost.

So, make them own this. An overwhelming majority of the country hates this mosque. Any sane person can see what it symbolizes. Every Democrat up for reelection should have to go on the record about the 911 Victory Mosque. It's going to get ugly, too. They have bus campaigns in NY planned, commercials that will show you gruesome footage you never saw before. If you thought the Vietnam war was bad, it will be a barrage of bad PR for the Dems.

27 Um, yeah.

Shut up, troll.

28 @23 Uh, there's like two gray boxes, the second of which provides an example of a named Democrat grousing and Ace also includes a link to the article quoted in the second box.  and he like, you know, wrote some stuff that put it context, if you are into like, reading stuff and understanding it and sappy shit like that.

Drink Coffee first.  Then post.

29 Tattoo, I think you misunderstood, that was meant to be sarcasm.

30
Why can't all the media be like Journolist?  waaaaaaaaaa.

Leftards want 100% pure pro Democrat reporting 100% of the time.  95% just isn't good enough. waaaaaaaaa.

31 “I would prefer the president be a little more of a politician and a little less of a college professor,” former Rep. Martin Frost (Dumbocrat)

LOL.  A college professor with an IQ in the low 80's who can't handle simple arithmetic with fractions? 

The Precedent isn't even smart enough to teach 5th grade.  No one needs their 10 year old coming home and talking about "profit and earnings ratios" and driving 65 minutes and hours on the highway.

The best The Precedent is even possibly capable of is being a collage professor.

32

Jeezez, Tattoo Duh, we water plants in our garden that are smarter than you are.

33 At least it's George Soros paying him and not our tax dollars and our Justice Department.

Those may be rapidly becoming one and the same.

34 Have the MM trolls started showing up yet?

35
At least it's George Soros paying him and not our tax dollars and our Justice Department.

Ummm....Soros is the beneficiary of more tax dollars and graft than you can count

36

Running Man - on my second cup thanks. 

Grey box 1 - excerpt from Boehlert criticizing Klein for no quotes.  Grey box 2 - an excerpt from an entirely different article - not by Klein - where a named Democrat grouses. 

Not included:  link to Boehlert's article, or to the original Klein article (not sure which Klein, again, no links to sourcing.) 

It may just be that Boehlert's criticism is on target - whenever some journalist writes some "many say" article that means they probably made it up.  But hard to tell here.  If Klein was writing a column to the choir that already knew all the component parts of the story, that's one thing.  But if he (she?  What Klein?) was writing straight news (as if) providing some actual evidence of what you are reporting as occurring would be a good thing.  Without a link to that article we don't know if Klein was writing that "Many Democrats say on background...."  All we know is that Boehlert criticizes Klein for no quotes. 

If he is indeed saying that background is invalid that's a new rule that we can hold them to.  But not sure that is what he was saying. 

Loose shit, all I am saying. 

 

 

37 Posted by: polynikes at August 17, 2010 09:58 AM (m2CN7)

Thanks, I hadn't heard what was going on with ConEd, though I assumed they would be amiable. A governor would use eminent domain to turn the building into a 9-11 memorial.

That means that the Governor's office would claim in court that the building deserves this designation. The building's owner would be paid the fair market value for the building.

Because of all the controversy and public opinion on this matter, a judge might deem it worthy of the Governor's opinion on the building's improper use and proper proposed designation.

38 (sYrWB)

I remember you as (itZbJ) and Boris&Natasha, so cut the "we" shit.

39

If it matters and the vote is needed they'll vote strict party line every single time without fail, no matter how much of a disaster the bill in question might be.

The Democrats who voted against the HealthScam were given a pass by Pelousy, who knew that it would mean political suicide in their particular districts. She concentrated her efforts on persuading Dems who were not in such vulnerable positions, such as Stupid and Kucinich. And every one of those so-called moderate or conservative Dems could have voted for someone other than Pelousy for speaker when the Dems first took Congress. Did she ever have to fend off any serious challenge from the "conservative" wing of the party?

40 Tattoo, I think you misunderstood, that was meant to be sarcasm.

Posted by: Decaf at August 17, 2010 09:56 AM (NooBZ)

Is sarcasm the new irony?

41 Thanks, you made my point (again), you psycho.

42 A governor would use eminent domain to turn the building into a 9-11 memorial.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 17, 2010 10:07 AM (mHQ7T)

Or the building could simply be certified as an historical landmark, in which case no one would really ever be able to build on the site, again.  New York has a long history of pulling this crap for construction projects they don't like.  It would be nice if they could use this power for good ... just once.

But, I still wish Robert Moses were alive.  He'd let them build the mosque and tear it down and run a highway through it (the only 1 block highway in the world!).

But, that's not the New York City we have today.  After all, those idiots voted Bloomberg in for a third term.  You just don't much dumber than that.

43 I love it when Tattoo Duh tries to appear intelligent, well, for a New Yawkah.

44

Is sarcasm the new irony?

No, different concepts.  I don't do irony, I buy permanent press.

45

Crap.  I went over to MMFA to find the original (I need a shower now) and Boehlert makes the same point I did. 

I am ashamed.

46 Ah Toby, you're just miffed 'cause you'll never be able to suck on my pecker.

47

Tracked down the originals.   Wow, is Boehlert ever a tendentious partisan asswipe.  The issue I see is that he is spinning FURIOUSLY! 

I wonder does that crap actually work? 

48 Hey Toby _{(Toby??? Oy vey),} did anyone ever tell you that you are very weird?

49 BTW, I like what Treacher says about the whole it isn't a "Ground Zero" mosque - he proposes 9/11 Debris Field Mosque.  

50 Some more "media" spin: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100816 it isn't really "ground zero, there are other businesses in the general area.

51 With a name like Tobias, you must get a lot of girls, eh Toby? But wait, you prefer boys. 

52 @ PoP

Or the building could simply be certified as an historical landmark, in which case no one would really ever be able to build on the site, again.

The landmarks commission ruled unanimously, and I don't think that decision can be appealed, though I believe there is a lawsuit that they made their ruling arbitrarily and irresponsibly. There is a good case why the building should be landmarked, so I would the plaintiffs have a good case.

And I miss Robert Moses. He was a tough old bird, but he was a visionary. I was just at Central Park to see Al Pacino in The Merchant of Venice. The line started two days before the show, and people who came out of A Winter's Tale to line up at 11:30pm the night before didn't even get vouchers. Joseph Papp went to court with Robert Moses over whether the tickets should be free or not, but Moses understood that in NYC, it's only a matter of time before someone starts running a scam. In this case, you have shantytown's that set up and where vagrants would typically be chased from the park, now they're avid theatre-goers quietly scalping tickets.

53

You do realize that Bohlert was talking specifically about the ABC story, and then you linked to a Politico story right?

If you guys are so concerned about where the Twin Towers once stood as being hallowed ground; how come you want anything built there? If it is so hallowed, why don't we just build a memorial park there, and make it hallowed ground with, again, maybe some green space, memorials to all of those who died there that day (minus the terrorists of course), and so on? Instead, we're just going to have another skyscraper.

Don't forget, the "mosque" isn't actually a mosque, and it's not at Ground Zero either.

54 To be fair, Obama wasn't much of a college professor either.

55 Yep, colin has been banned a couple of times but she's hard to get rid of.  The toenail fungus of trolls.

Colin is a chick name? That's like naming your daughter Sasha or Stanley. She is guaranteed to have a head full of crazy.

56

There's the first MMFA troll. 

Hey, Tom, how's the 9/11 Debris Field Mosque strike you?  And, umm, how is not actually a mosque, and if it isn't, then why would there be a Constitutional right to build it? 

 

Get your spin straight homey. 

57 Who is this Colin of whom you speak? If you imbeciles hate him, he must be a cool guy.

58

Actually, wouldn't it be the 9/11 Debris Field Community Center?    

Speaking of community centers, IIRC, there was an Islamist attack on a Jewish community center in Argentina in the 90s, and have been other attacks on Jewish community centers in the US.  I wonder if the attackers viewed the community centers as equivalent of military targets, and if so, where would they have gotten that idea?       

59 "ground zero", there are other businesses in the general area

Yeah, another name for the general area is "Soho." The MFM might have heard of it. I think the Democrats are going all in. Now that Obama has gone on the record, there's not much else they can do. But they will get their asses whipped in the midterms. Bloomberg is going to stump for Sestak, btw.

But I agree with Proggie. Eminent domain gets abused so much in this city, it would be nice if it were for a worthwhile cause. It's not beyond the realm of possibility, either. Hizzonder whining that it would be a sad day if the mosque got shouted down says to me they're on the ropes and they know they'll lose.

But you should see how many of these cast iron buildings in Soho are "AIR" or artist in residence landmark buildings. There's something shady in how the procedure went through.

60 Maybe we could just force the mosqueteers to use the same person who writes the code for these pages and picks whatever ridiculous ad codes go on here.  That way, the mosque will never get built.

These pages take forever to load.  Some never end loading.  Some have scripts that my browser tags as overtaxing the system.  This is crazy.  Worse than anything I have ever run into at Hotair.

61 If you imbeciles hate him, he must be a cool guy.

Why in the fuck are you here? If you're so smart, how about contributing to the conversation instead of harassing people? Do you know anything about anything? Otherwise, go suck Colin's _little "pecker."

62

Bloomberg should just cede a square mile of Manhattan centered on GZ to the Caliphate of New Amsterdam.  If they can build the tallest buildings in the world in Dubai, why can't they build them in al-Manhattan?  

Bloomberg can let them collect the jizya (heh-heh).   

63 Geez Louise Bohlert:  Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid set a new record in the political 100 yard dash running away from Obama's Mosque-Follies just yesterday.

64

Hey Tom, glad you could drop on by. 

Let's just drop the talk of the mosque for now ok?  You're like so totally right on that!

You do realize that the terrorists took the towers down in the name of Islam right?  You know that was the second attempt at taking the towers down in the name of Islam right?  Does it not strike you as poor "outreach" to build a big Islamic center in the place where some major debris from the weapons of the terrorists fell?  You know that Hamas, a group noted for its Islamic outreach, like really really really wants it to be built right?

I'll stop there for now, cause I'm sure you won't ever be back.

 

65 Don't forget, the "mosque" isn't actually a mosque, and it's not at Ground Zero either.

It is @ Ground Zero in the same way Avery Fisher Hall is @ Lincoln Center. I love all the shit for brain tourists who suddenly have an opinion on NYC real estate, as if a passing acquaintance somehow makes you an expert. In this city, everything is location. "Two blocks from the express train" is a selling point. "At Ground Zero" is exactly what it fucking says. And if it is an Islamic cultural center with a PRAYER SPACE that's a MOSQUE.

66 And, umm, how is not actually a mosque, and if it isn't, then why would there be a Constitutional right to build it?

Don't confuse the trolls with logic.

67 58  Colin is a chick name? That's like naming your daughter Sasha or Stanley. She is guaranteed to have a head full of crazy.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 17, 2010 10:54 AM (mHQ7T)

 

It don't take much to get Tattoo to act batty, do it?

68 And if it is an Islamic cultural center with a PRAYER SPACE that's a MOSQUE.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 17, 2010 11:12 AM (mHQ7T)

 

Um yeah, more Barney Frank logic from our resident loony here.  

69 our resident loony here at August 17, 2010 11:23 AM (sYrWB)

Go away.

70 Go away.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 17, 2010 11:25 AM (Qp4DT)

 

I'm shocked, shocked by your intolerance!!!  

71

Hey progressoverpeace, why don't you go and start a revolution or something?

Or better still, start your own one-man secession from the Union. _{(But have your lunch first)} 

72

You know what I think is interesting - apparently Boehlert has 1 reader.  Unless that was just a sock. 

73 And I wonder what he thinks about Governor Paterson?

74 Um yeah, more Barney Frank logic from our resident loony here.

And what does that mean? What kind of logic is Barney Frank logic? Just trying to figure out if your inanity has a point. Is it because he's gay? Is it because he's from MA? Is it just because you have a thing for wieners and his last name is Frank?

75 apparently Boehlert has 1 reader

He's on the loose, too. Someone grab the butterfly net. Can we get Colin banned again?

76 75  You know what I think is interesting - apparently Boehlert has 1 reader.  Unless that was just a sock. 

Posted by: blaster at August 17, 2010 11:45 AM (aEyru)

 

No, I suspect that it was just someone who was exasperated with the tedious extent to which that issue was being belabored here by grouchy dimwits here who neeed to get a grip. But hey, I could be wrong.

77 Hey Tats stop feeding the troll mebbe?

78 Anybody that cool shouldn't be wasting his time with the losers on this website.

79 And I wonder what he thinks about Governor Paterson?

The Dems have always had it out for him. Maybe it was because he killed any chance Caroline Kennedy had to take Hildabeast's seat, but I feel like it goes back even further.

80 By now we have read that Mr Obama heartily endorsed the "9/11 Ground Zero Mosque" at an Iftar dinner this past Friday, their holy day–during Ramadan- but there is a curious omission in the corporate/managed medias coverage off this odd event. Obama is the FIRST President to actively denigrate Christians and Christianity while simultaneously bowing down to Muslims and Sharia law. Were there any “GAY” couples invited to the official Obama White House Ramadan meal? Why not? Obama made a great show of having many homosexuals at his “Easter egg roll” rubbing Christians' noses in what he called a "teachable moment" against "the forces of homophobia and hate." Easter is Christianity’s major holy day. Why did he not mock and insult Muslims in the same way? Why did Obama not shove a “teachable moment” into the faces of Muslims? Earlier this year, Obama forced Christians to watch in dismay as he hijacked the Christian holiday of Easter to endorse homosexual child rearing, and he used Ramadan to endorse the construction of a massive mosque on the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He clearly hates Christianity and embraces Islam, as well as homosexuality. It's only unclear which one he prefers, or fears, more. It seems to be Islam since he didn't include any gays, lesbians, transgenders, transexuals, cross-dressers, or pre-ops at his Ramadan celebration. This is a deadly double standard by a man who refused to attend the National Day of Prayer breakfast, refused to attend the Boy Scouts of America (because of their policy of protecting boys from potential "gay" predators) and wants to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act. He and his wife Michele attended Jeremiah Wright's hate-filled "church" that promoted overt racism and black liberation theology for years. This is Obama's sole connection with what the media think is legitimate Christianity. Why is the media as silent about Obama's purposeful neglect of the gay, lesbians and transgender community" when it comes to his Muslim holiday celebration as they are about that fact that the California city of Bell's entire corruption scandal was 100% Democrat? http://elvisnixon.com/2010/08/15/no-...--why-not.aspx

81

I can't believe the amateurishness (?) of this Boehlert fellow. He is now calling Ace "Dum-Dum" on twitter, because Ace is teh stoopid, apparently, for not noticing that Boehlert was complaining only that ABC didn't provide any quotes from Democrats, not that OTHER news outlets had provided quotes.

So why did he point out the fact that ABC didn't quote any democrats? Is it (a) to call into question the truth of the assertion, or (b) because he finds lazy journalism insulting to his person? Of course, the answer is (a).

 

82 It's only unclear which one he prefers, or fears, more.

Like many Muslims, he sees Western values as incompatible with his faith. He would not bring up homosexuality to Muslims, but he must weaken and attack Christianity with Alinsky rules, making them live by their own rules.

83 82 And I wonder what he thinks about Governor Paterson?

The Dems have always had it out for him. Maybe it was because he killed any chance Caroline Kennedy had to take Hildabeast's seat. (Yeah, that's it.) But I feel like it goes back even further.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 17, 2010 12:32 PM (mHQ7T)

84 Right now I'm sitting here reading your last comment trying to see things from your point of view, but I can't get my head that far up my ass.

85

Remember the Anne Hathaway/Katie Couric meltdown when Obama invited Rick Warren to say a prayer at the inaugural? WHY NO cry of OUTRAGE from the media at the failure to include "same-sex Imams" at the Rmadan fest?

 

As I said "Why is the media as silent about Obama's purposeful neglect of the gay, lesbians and transgender community" when it comes to his Muslim holiday celebration as they are about that fact that the California city of Bell's entire corruption scandal was 100% Democrat? "

http://elvisnixon.com/2010/08/15/no-...--why-not.aspx

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