1 The relative rarity of Medal of Honors does make it a more important medal to receive. During the US Civil War they gave out way to many and ended up rescinding a lot of them. I read a article that listed the reason a bunch of the medals were given in the past and the accounts were of a truly heroic nature.

2

The reporter chick said "He's one of 7 medal of Honor winners."  It's a recipient!  Yeesh.

Anyways, love that Staff Sargeant and all those who are sacrificing so much by serving over there.  Wow.

3

Thank God for men like SSgt Salvatore Giunta.

 

Thank God, indeed. 

4 Thank God SSGT Giunta was able to save the other soldier from that sorry band of men. Well deserved.

5 I disagree.  The Navy... I'll speak for them... gives out NAMs and COMs like they're candy.  Seriously.  It's as if the cooks and yeomen are swinging at a big NAM pinata and every one of them rushes in to pick up what falls.  A cook bakes a cake that the Commodores wife enjoys.  NAM.  A YN3 escorts a group of VIP's around the boat on his duty day.  NAM.  And then some non-rate seaman gets upset when he only gets an Admirals letter for qualifying dolphins three months late.    The CMOH is what it is.  It's the last and only award left that has any dignity.  I'm not discrediting the service of those who've been nominated and denied.  A Navy Cross isn't too shabby either.  Leave the CMOH alone.  Let it be for the truly extraordinary.

6 Don't mistake my tirade as judgment on the SSGT.  I'm not doubting the fact that he is a badass.  He's getting this honor.  I'm elated.  I just don't want to see the politics of awarding the CMOH sully the dignity of it in any way.

7 God bless him and all our other heroes, medals or not.

8 May the Lord bless and keep valiant men such as this. 

9

Hooraahhh SSGT.

I hate that fucking communist Martha Raddich chick though. She is a absolute leftist.

10 I fully honor this man's heroism, in all ways, and fully accept he deserves the medal. Would I be too much of a cynic to wonder, though, if a Staff Sergeant John Smith would have been so honored, for the same act of heroism?

11 May the Lord bless and keep valiant men such as this. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 13, 2010 07:50 PM (9hSKh)

Kratos, I subbed for you on the previous thread. They were talking about strippers and such and I knew you wouldn't approve.

12 One of the books I liberated from my grandparents' house this weekend ahead of the auction crew was a child's book (aimed at 10-12 year-old boys) from the 1950s that presented stories of WWII Medal of Honor recipients--where they grew up, and what they did to be awarded the medal. It fascinated me, partly for the stories, and partly because if someone published such a book today, no school library would deign to stock it, lest some child read it and be inspired by actual heroes instead of, say, AlGore.

Thank God for men like SSgt Salvatore Giunta.

Yup yup.

13 I hate to be the first one to say this but this brave warrior has received a metal that he doesn't deserve.

A Silver Star with Clusters - Yes. But not the MOH.

I've been there and done that and seen men do much more than this and only receive ----NOTHING--- or perhaps a Bronze Star.

The MOH is for men or women that do things that they know that they will not survive, that do superhuman things, that go way, way far into terror and death and seldom if ever survive.

Read of the acts of past MOH recipients and tell me that you don't agree.

Papa Ray

14 Well... Papa Ray... a lot of the old old MOH recipients, circa the civil war, were awarded for acts that wouldn't meet todays standards.  They wouldn't meet WWII or WWI standards, either.  The MOH has evolved over time.  I just would rather not see it go the other direction.

15 #11  Kratos, I subbed for you on the previous thread. They were talking about strippers and such and I knew you wouldn't approve.

lol, thanks robtr.  I appreciate the effort, but it wasn't necessary.  In all honesty, I "doth protesth too much" about that sort of thing.  What business is it of mine unless it's interfering with me?

And strip clubs would just happen to stop the GZ mosque construction entirely, hell, I'm all for 'em. 

/But learn to spell "decadence" correctly next time, ok? 

16 typical libtard interviewer - notice how she couldn't resist inserting her anti-patriotic point of view:  immediately after the heroic SGT mentioned men from all across America were fighting heroically FOR America.....she says, "...so you were fighting for the men beside you...."  A common theme of libtards who want to undermine patriotic deeds and thoughts is that soldiers fight FOR THEIR BUDDIES, NOT America.  Its a gross oversimplification, and libtards play it all the time.  In the here and now, as bullets are flying, sure, soldiers don't give a lot of thought to the Founding Fathers and the abstract concepts of national pride, heritage, and a sense of patriotic obligation....that led them to join the service in the first place.  they naturally are concerned about their foxhole-mates.  But to make a sweeping statement:  "you were fighting for friendship and NOT the nation..." is a gross distortion.  you see it all the time, as liberals seek to downplay patriotism.

17

DrewM:  Thank God for men like SSgt Salvatore Giunta.

DrewM, it isn't SSGT.  It is SSG.  Marines might call it SSGT, but not the Army.

If he is an E-5, his rank is called Sergeant.  SGT.

If he is an E-6, his rank is called Staff Sergeant.  SSG.

If he is an E-7, his rank is called Sergeant First Class.  SFC.

All enlisted ranks are abrieviated to three letters only.

 

 

18 youbetcha - great point but notice also how Stephi also couldn't resist saying how excited he was to talk to the President. Undoubtedly true but always looking for a way to say to America "see Obama loves the troops and they love him."

19 @5 by Posted by: 2549 at September 13, 2010 07:45 PM (kr1RX) The Army passes out Army Achievment Medals and Commendation Medals like candy as well. Big deal. Everyone in the service knows a Bronze Star without a "V" device is just a nice "I was there" ribbon. But having read any number of citations for awards in this war and others, it is quite clear that the services have been loathe to award a MoH to a living recipient. The public doesn't pay attention to a DSC/NC/AFC recipient. But they do pay attention to an MoH recipient. My personal take on this? SSG Giunta's award is quite well deserved. But you'll notice that his actions were well publicized in both Junger's book "War" and in the movie "Restrepo" and I'm convinced that if that weren't the case, he would have been downgraded. It's a cryin' shame that awards need PR to just be awarded.

20 WTF is a NAM and a COM? I was in the Navy for 7 years and never heard that acronym for a medal.

And there is no such thing as a CMOH, Congress is nowhere in the title.

21 A thought:  President Obama must nominate more women to White House offices. Heaven forfend that he would allow experience or expertise to get in the way of such important considerations!

22 NAM= Navy Achievement Medal COM= Navy Commendation Medal.

23 President Nero with another packed social calendar this week...

24 Ed at september: The Airforce uses the 4 letter designations.SSGT TSGT MSGT SMSGT CMSGT.They are in order,E-5 E-6 E-7 E-8 and E-9.Just thought I'd clear that up.I am still a member.

25 bobbymike - also a good point; not too hard to understand why this short soundbite made it as the teaser.  one point Staphylococcus would never understand, is that maybe the heroic SSGT was subdued (as opposed to the phone call) when recounting the combat is because some of his friends and colleagues died in the gut-wrenching, terrifying action.  to Staphy, it all about the thrill of speaking to the One, rather than reliving the emotions of combat. 

26 NAM= Navy Achievement Medal

COM= Navy Commendation Medal.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 13, 2010 08:22 PM (X0Ona)

Thanks, I didn't here of the acronym because I never heard of the medal. They must not have been giving those out in the early to late 70s.

27 God bless SSG Salvatore Giunta.

28

the fountainhead is on TCM at 845.

 

also does ace know there is an "Ace plays the invisible accordian" picture of him on the web?

29 God Bless SSGT Guinta and all of our men and women in all of the uniformed services.

I had a chance run in with MOH recipient Roy Benavidez  http://tinyurl.com/2vw493t   back in the early 90's and let me tell ya, he had a look that would make a believer out of ya in a hurry.

30

http://tinyurl.com/349a6lp

Did John pull a Boner?

31 Vic, IIRC, the Achievement Medals (each service has their own) came out around 1981.

32 GrumpyUnk, MSG Benavidez' cousin earned the DSC in the same fight that he earned the MoH. I was fortunate to call him my friend for several years.

33

I was hoping this thing would look cooler.  My hopes were dashed.

Militarized skateboard

From the comments:

Nothing paints shoot me first like a god damn scooter. Hell, let's give it a pink paint job and streamers and call it a day. I can just see Opfor passing the sniper around for laughs as they look at the scooter ninny brigade coming into town

Related question:  Why are both of the premiere skateboard-riding superheroes (Rocket Racer and Night Thrasher) both black?

 

34

also, the O'Donnell v. Castle fight just got more interesting.

Krauthammer called Demint and Palin's endorsement of O'Donnell destructive and irresponsible.

 

35 26Ed at september: The Airforce uses the 4 letter designations.SSGT TSGT MSGT SMSGT CMSGT.They are in order,E-5 E-6 E-7 E-8 and E-9.Just thought I'd clear that up.I am still a member.

Posted by: ziptie at September 13, 2010 08:23 PM (0135J)

 

Heh.  Err, yes, you are of course correct.  And believe it or not, I knew that at the time of my original post.  What I should have written is:

"All ARMY enlisted ranks are abrieviated to three letters only." 

Poor proof reading on my part.

 

 

 

 

36 Posted by: XBradTC at September 13, 2010 08:28 PM (X0Ona)
---------------------------------------------
I'm glad for you that you got to know a guy like that. I was just a E5 who never did shit and just being able to see him, come to attention and snap off my best salute made me feel like a better soldier.

37 Vic, IIRC, the Achievement Medals (each service has their own) came out around 1981.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 13, 2010 08:26 PM (X0Ona)

OK, I had just finished checking. Wiki says it came out for the Navy in 1961 so it was still relatively new when I was in between 1970 and 77.

I never knew a single person who had received it. We got all kinds of other shit for Vietnam and long "periods in the combat zone at sea" but never heard anything about the NAM (other than slang for Vietnam) 

Probably since it was still new the brass had not figured out what the real criteria was for issuing it.

38

All enlisted ranks are abrieviated to three letters only.

Same with the Executive Branch; for example, the CINC is a POS.

39

40 LOL

(O/T I just took my daily sojourn to HA. My visits are now down to less than a minute. I can actually read the WashPo for longer.)

40

Hey, thanks for the correction DrewM.

And you don't have to mention my name or your correction of the original post.

It was just an insignificant editing mistake.  No need for publicly correcting yourself.

In fact, I really don't feel worthy of being mentioned in his post.

The post is about him.  Not me.

41 Ed at september: Sorry,wasn't trying to be a smartass.I'm not familiar with the Army ranks at all. Poor reading the obvious on my part.

42 2549, Roger that.  I got a NAM and COM just for showing up.  Monster badges are a different story.  The best part is I have never heard a CMOH awardee say they deserved it.  One who did not get it was a Marine Lt. who on the drive to Bagdad, ran into stiff resistance from fixed positions.  Ordered his driver to charge the line with his gunner on top of the hummer blazing away.  Ran the hummer into the ditch, jumped out and ran after the enemy down the ditch.  Emptied his M16 and all available ammo, picked up a fucking AK and continued pursuit of the enemy.  I mean, big brass balls.  They gave him the Navy Cross, but damn.  Glad these guys are on our side.  Semper fi.

43

ptie at September 13, 2010 08:39 PM (0135J)

No worries, it's all good.

44

Evening folks. 

Nothing to add on on this great story.  I understand not wanting to devalue medals, but it seems the military has been awfully stingy the last 10 years. 

Glad we have a guy who lived to tell about his bravery.

45

Err...Sorry about cutting off your nic there in #45.

It's ziptie.

Jeeze.  I make one good correction about abreviations, and then promptly proceed to step all over my dick on several subsequent occasions.

46 I have no idea why the military has taken this approach to the Medal of Honor but it does the whole nation a disservice.

WTF you know why the military takes this approach, PC!  Don't honor people in a war that democrats don't support.

47 In our world of nutty preachers, stubborn imans and a certifiable political class, it's nice to have a true blue American hero to honor.  Kind of reminds me of the good old days when our president and citizens were proud to be Americans.  Thank God we have people like SSG Giunta on our side. 

48 He's much more comfortable with presenting medals for running away strategically, and so forth.

Posted by: Wodeshed at September 13, 2010 08:41 PM (MFbfZ)

Yeah and doesn't he now have to salute him?

He might be eating his waffle when it comes time to salute.  Or hitting out of a sand trap.

49
Thanks, I didn't here of the acronym because I never heard of the medal. They must not have been giving those out in the early to late 70s.

Posted by: Vic at September 13, 2010 08:24 PM (/jbAw)

That was long after you left the Navy. Was it fun launching biplanes from the Langley?

50 God bless SSG Giunta.

_{I hope he isn't a Ravens fan... 'cause they keep spiking themselves vs the Jets.} 

51 Posted by: Wodeshed Medals reek of victory.

52

Thank God for brave men like SSG. Giunta. Also, those 2 guys from Blackhawk Down.

One time in the Med a bunch of us decided we'd earned this ribbon just for being off Lebanon; we called it the punkin ribbon because it was orange and black. For some reason the ship's store had it so we had the whole division just wearing this madeup award to all these ceremonies. The Department head went apeshit; a good time was had by all.

53 Hooah

54 Ed at September: I got it. I step all over mine here all the time.

55 I think medals come and go in what it takes to receive them. 

Acts of courage were so common in WW2 and WWI that the award was extraordinary.  Like Papa said, the standard is not as strong as it was then.  The question becomes exactly what is "above and beyond"? 

Today, I think sometimes showing up on time might qualify.

That is not to take away from the duty and guts these Americans show.

I personally know a Distinguished Flying Cross recipient, the second highest award in the AF.  He won't tell what he did to get it, so I am guessing he's the guy that bombed the Chinese Embassy in Bosnia.

Pretty cool, but not like WW2 bombers flying into flack and getting back half shot up.

56 re: paucity of medal of honor winners
maybe the people who can award the MofH are the kinda folks not in any position to receive it - that's is high ranking officer in non-combatant positions.  so, if that can't get a MofH, then not one can.  don't know, but maybe.

57 #41 Dagny, I hear that. The comments are the most frightening thing- like when they posted Mark Kirk's video in which he promises to stop the Democrats in the lame duck and his "moderate" views take a backseat to stopping a dangerous Congress, and they treat him like Louis XVI.

58 Standing all Proud of his Dad who won the Silver Star in the Army.

59 I hate that fucking communist Martha Raddich chick though. She is a absolute leftist.

She looked like she was swallowing a case of lemons when she asked him what he was fighting for.

60 #63 We ask you do not imply any act involving us, and swallowing, with Martha Raddich.

61 #59

Oh and by the way, I got to hold his DFC medal.  It was SOOO cool!

This guy retire B Gen at 40 something.  Now works at Ft Bragg for some government agency, hmm, wonder what that could be??

62 61 Sometimes I go over to the green room just to beat up libtards. It's like Kos-lite.

63 I personally know a Distinguished Flying Cross recipient, the second highest award in the AF. No. The DFC is not really a medal for valour, nor is it the second highest award for the Air Force. That would be the Air Force Cross. All of the services may award the DFC for distinguished achievement in flight. The DFC was originally awarded in peacetime (and still can be).

64 I'll bet it pained Raddich to no end to have to be in the same room with a warrior.

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66 Obama has to salute him first, not the other way around.  SSGT Giunta can then take his sweet time returning his salute, all the while Obama has to hold it there.

Hehehehe....

67 Well, believe it is time for me to take my tired very old ass on to bed. Night Morons, its about time for the "submorons" to come on board.

I'll catch 'm on the rebound in the morning.

68 And he's a paratrooper, of course. 'No sky too high, no blast too fast, you call we fall.' I was lucky to be a paratrooper when I was young if only because it allowed me to meet genuine heroes. For example, my platoon sergeant, Sergeant First Class Raleigh May, was winner of the Distinguished Service Cross. Another thing: one of the reasons I love my country so much is that it manages to produce men like May and Giunta.

69 #71 see ya round ya crazy moron!

70 I saw this guy. God Bless Him.

O/t:  Devin nunes is on with batchelor, in studio.
He has the heavy hitters on the panel tonight and they will be discussing the election tomorrow.

71

Obama has to salute him first, not the other way around.  SSGT Giunta can then take his sweet time returning his salute, all the while Obama has to hold it there.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall so I could hear The Vapid One™ bitch about that little detail. Id even go so far as to bet that he wouldn't do it, seeing as how he hates the country and the military so much.

Heh, pix or it didn't happen...

72 Thank God for men like SSG Giunta and every warrior that swears to protect and defend our Constitution with their blood.

73 Congratulations and thank you to brave and courageous men like this as well as everyone else who serves.

74
I have no idea why the military has taken this approach to the Medal of Honor but it does the whole nation a disservice.

Maybe because they don't pass them out like donuts?

It sounds like this guy really earned the MOH and I'm glad he was awarded it.

The subject of military decorations can really piss people off.  My father was recommended for the Legion of Merit and his superior Officer ripped up the papers in front of him -- telling my father that because he didn't hold the Legion of Merit none of his subordinates would ever be awarded one.

That kind of shit makes my blood boil.

75 Ed, I don't think anyone is calling for the MoH to be passed out like donuts, but for a while there, the only way to earn it was to die tryin'. That's not how it's supposed to work. As for your father's LoM, that's fucked. But I've always thought most achievement awards were mostly fluff anyway. If it isn't an award for valor, it's just nice to have.

76 I actually think it's a good idea to keep the Medal rare, so that those who do earn it are properly honored. In some past conflicts they passed them out like Crackerjack prizes. Check out the US-Korea conflict back in the 19th century; either that was the most badassed engagement in the history of warfare or there was some medal inflation going on.

77 #67

I stand corrected.  Bosnia counts as peace time I guess?  He was a stealth fighter pilot.  It was still a cool medal.  Here is the list.

http://tinyurl.com/375fe7r

78 Kemp, Bosnia? It depends on when. I was imprecise. The DFC can be awarded either in peacetime or wartime. They don't hand 'em out like candy, but it ranks a couple steps down from the Air Force/Navy/Distinguished Service Cross.

79 #83

1999.  The story I heard is that a F-117 was shot down by a random shot.  Only 2 F-117 have been lost, one in MD and this one in Bosnia. 

The story is the Chinese paid for everything they could get from the crash and it was at the embassy. Chinese are pretty good at reverse engineering. Some say a  B-2 took out the embassy, could be and my guy was cover, but I think a F-117 has enough to take out an embassy.

Just saying, the cover story, we had the wrong maps.  Yeah right.

Note the Chinese did not bitch at all.

80

also, the O'Donnell v. Castle fight just got more interesting.

Krauthammer called Demint and Palin's endorsement of O'Donnell destructive and irresponsible.

 

Posted by: Ben at September 13, 2010 08:31 PM (DKV43)

The commenters at Gateway Pundit are not amused.  The battle rages for anyone interested.

81

As for your father's LoM, that's fucked. But I've always thought most achievement awards were mostly fluff anyway. If it isn't an award for valor, it's just nice to have.

Posted by: XBradTC at September 13, 2010 09:41 PM (X0Ona)

What's valor?

My father was the CO of one of the first assault helicopter battalions in Vietnam.

He had his D model stripped out and outfitted with a 40 mm grenade launcher chin turret, twin M-60s on the skids and  twin 2.75 FFAR launchers. Loaded for bear.

He never carried troops. He carried ammo, instead.

He was always the first one in and the last one out. And he never lost a chopper in his outfit when he was there.

Was that valorous?

82

1999.  The story I heard is that a F-117 was shot down by a random shot.  Only 2 F-117 have been lost, one in MD and this one in Bosnia. 

The story is the Chinese paid for everything they could get from the crash and it was at the embassy. Chinese are pretty good at reverse engineering. Some say a  B-2 took out the embassy, could be and my guy was cover, but I think a F-117 has enough to take out an embassy.

Just saying, the cover story, we had the wrong maps.  Yeah right.

Note the Chinese did not bitch at all.

Posted by: Kemp at September 13, 2010 09:59 PM (AQxTm)

The story at that time was that some French NATO Colonel leaked the route and TOT to the Bosnians so that when the F-117 opened its weapons bay doors it was a toasty target. IIRC the Freepers & WorldNutDaily (and even Drudge) pushed this scenario, so take it for what it's worth.

83 Was that valorous?

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 13, 2010 10:03 PM (7+pP9)

 

Thank you for his service!

84 Ed Anger at 87 - IIRC the F117's followed the exact same attack route at least two (and possibly three) nights in a row. The goblins moved in a lot of guns and when spotters heard the engines opened up with everything, just putting up a random "wall of steel" in the projected flight path. Bringing down a modern jet is not hard if you put a round through a critical system.

85

World War I KIA: 116,708

World War I MoH recipients: 124 (rate: 1/968 KIAs)

World War II KIA: 416,800

World War II MoH recipients: 464 (1/900)

Korea KIA: 36,940

Korea MoH recipients: 133 (1/280)

Vietnam KIA: 58,236

Vietnam MoH recipients: 246 (1/237)

Iraq/Afghanistan KIA: 5,693

Iraq/Afghanistan MoH recipients: 7 (1/813)

Measured MoH's/KIA, they have been issued at roughly the same rate (higher actually) as they were in WW1 & 2, but significantly lower than they were in Vietnam and Korea. Medical care has improved dramatically, even since the last 2 wars, so that would suggest that it should be closer to the Korea/Vietnam rates, since fewer wounded servicemen are dying from infections or for want of access to treatment. But then many of the deaths have been caused by circumstances not allowing for much heroism, such as IED explosions.

All that assumes that there should be any correlation between KIAs and the number of MoH recipients.

My personal opinion, with no evidence whatsoever to support it, is that the MoH is being withheld to some degree because they're keeping the standards unreasonably high and because a living MoH recipient could become a political liability, if he chose to criticize the war effort or a particular political party.

I also suspect, also with no evidence to back me up whatsoever, that the 20+ MoHs awarded to 442nd RCT vets were driven by politics as much as by genuine heroism. Looking back at the war from 50 years later it's easy to consider "heroic" acts that other units routinely witnessed, that were not, unlike the 442nd, reconsidered for the MoH 50 years after the fact. In addition, according to Band of Brothers and other books, there was actually a cap placed on the number of MoHs that could be issued per division for any given action. For example, MoHs were limited to one per division for the Normandy invasion.

86 One other thing. If you read MOH citations from WWII or Korea, many were given for the act of killing large numbers of enemy soldiers. I remember the citation for one Marine who stayed at a forward location on a ridge in the face of a Japanese attack and used, among other things, a .50 caliber machine gun to kill the enemy with flanking fire as they advanced. His citation credits him with killing "hundreds" of enemy soldiers and breaking the back of the attack.

Most of the citations I have seen from both Iraq and the 'stans were awarded for heroic actions taken to save fellow soldiers.

Of course no one proposed medals for "restraint" during WWII either.

87 All-

Those of you stuck on the rank abbreviations take a pill.  AP Stylebook makes the rank abbreviations different than the services do, that's all.  He may have been using that, or had some experience with the AP way.  I know, I know, it sucks, but, as a Public Affairs officer, AND someone in service for 30 years, we deal with it on a daily basis...

Wolf

88 I'm not a big fan of the idea of Presidents saluting. I was OK with Bush doing it because back in the day some E-6 showed him how. Obama'd probably fuck it up and embarrass everyone. Let him soothe his ego by hiding behind civilian control of the military.

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90 There are a few things to keep in mind about the Medal:

-Before WWII, there were far fewer awards in existence. The Medal was used as a generic recognition of valor. WWII resulted in the creation of more awards, and the Medal was singled out as something special.

-The Medal tends to be awarded on missions that can be discussed publicly. If you can't talk about a mission because of classification issues, or because of the risk of compromise of ongoing operations, the Medal will have to wait.

-If you are going to be nominated by somebody in your chain of command, an officer has to have witnessed the action. If nobody of appropriate rank is around to see what you did, you will probably be nominated for a Silver Star rather than the Medal. Modern warfare involves a lot of smaller, more-dispersed groups of people and urban combat, which make witnessing such acts difficult.

91 Thank you for your service Staff Sergeant Giunta.God bless you and your family. I have a seasonal neighbor who is a Medal of Honor recipient from Korea, Corporal Dwane Dewey, USMC.I have the utmost respect for him.Good News for you Sal, the nightmares and bad memories tend to fade after 20 years or so.Semper Fi, God bless the 173rd Airborne.

92

I know or served with three Medal of Honor Marines. Robert O'Malley, William Raymond Prom and Dwaine Williams. O'Malley served with India Company 3rd Battalion 3rd Regiment 3rd Marine Division and awarded the Medal for action on the 18 Aug 1965. Still living, only one of 87.

Prom was a fellow machine gunner, we served together and he was killed on the 9 Feb 1969.

Williams was a classmate who quite school and joined the Marines. He was killed on his birthday 6 months into his tour.

We honor those who served and gave their lives so others may live.

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